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lonny23
11-04-2005, 02:56 AM
OK,

Here are the Week 10 not fired teams who stand the best chance to make the semifinals.

D1 Region 1
SLC
E Trinity
M Summit

D1 Region 2
Longview
Pflugerville
A Westlake

D1 Region 3
H Lamar
S Westfield
GP North Shore
Pearland

D1 Region 4
C Judson (Not Seguin!)
SA Reagan
SA O'Connor

D2 Region 1
Abilene
SGP
I MacArthur
Midland
Plano

D2 Region 2
D Carter
C Cove
Leander
J Tyler
Lufkin
H Consolidated

D2 Region 3
Katy
H Madison
FB Marshall

D2 Region 4
S Clemens
S Valley
SA Madison
San Marcos
CC Carroll (Least likely)

Cujo
11-04-2005, 05:49 AM
Did I miss something? When exactly was John Tyler rehired???

Aren't they supposed to be 6-3 with another loss coming tonight, according to you? :p

Anyway, I'm glad that you rethought your rush to judgement after they "didn't score enough points" against Horn.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 11:42 AM
Did I miss something? When exactly was John Tyler rehired???

Aren't they supposed to be 6-3 with another loss coming tonight, according to you? :p

Anyway, I'm glad that you rethought your rush to judgement after they "didn't score enough points" against Horn.
I was busy working today and thought I'd do a quick new thread instead of looking for the old one's. JT was rehired based upon last week's performance coupled with the Lee game. I said they would lose before the Lee game, but that game made me think they would beat Rockwall. What I thought would be a 6-4 team turned into an 8-2 team 2 weeks ago. If the right Longview team doesn't show up, JT will beat the Lobos.

dragonfootballfan
11-04-2005, 11:44 AM
so when a team is 9-0 they are fired, but when they are 9-1 they are not?

lonny23
11-04-2005, 11:48 AM
so when a team is 9-0 they are fired, but when they are 9-1 they are not?
I've been busy this week and didn't get to post the update early in the week. I wanted to make sure I threw something in there before Friday night and that meant it was after Thursday games. Imac was going to come back regardless of the Trinity game, but that proves they deserve to be back.

Look at it like a Top 25 list. Teams move up and down and my opinion changes over time. I thought about bringing Imac back after the SGP game, but waited another week.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 11:49 AM
so when a team is 9-0 they are fired, but when they are 9-1 they are not?
I'm in the corner that feels like some wins prove less in the big scheme of things than some losses.

dragonfootballfan
11-04-2005, 11:50 AM
why would you fire them in the first place?

lonny23
11-04-2005, 11:57 AM
why would you fire them in the first place?
They don't have a very good power rating and were just scraping by in every game. Winning close games is great and I thought they would start losing to the better teams, but they just kept playing good football. I finally came to the conclusion that they're better than the sum of their parts and to not pick against them.

DragonFan
11-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Lonnie,

If E Trintiy and SLC play in the first round, who would you pick and why? Only one of them has a chance to advance so one should be fired. Who?

I have seen Trinity play twice now and have noticed that the Trinity D-Line is not very fast and do not put much pressure on QB's. I have also noticed that there are receivers open on every play in the Trinitity Secondary. An above average QB could have a field day with this senerio. IMac had over 300 yards passing and the qb only threw to 2 guys all night with 1 guy getting all but about 5 passes.

Trinity's running offense is very good expecially against undersized D-lines. SLC does not have an undersized D-line.

ThEgReAtOnE
11-04-2005, 12:33 PM
No Garland....wow! But then again....would you have put 7-3 Tyler Lee in this list, last year at this time?!

I just hope Garland makes a run! Can't wait to see!

lonny23
11-04-2005, 12:38 PM
Lonnie,

If E Trintiy and SLC play in the first round, who would you pick and why? Only one of them has a chance to advance so one should be fired. Who?

I have seen Trinity play twice now and have noticed that the Trinity D-Line is not very fast and do not put much pressure on QB's. I have also noticed that there are receivers open on every play in the Trinitity Secondary. An above average QB could have a field day with this senerio. IMac had over 300 yards passing and the qb only threw to 2 guys all night with 1 guy getting all but about 5 passes.

Trinity's running offense is very good expecially against undersized D-lines. SLC does not have an undersized D-line.
Right now, I'll pick SLC, but I can't fire ET. They're too good to fire and the list is not who will get to the semis, but who reasonably can. ET reasonably can, but I don't think they will. I'll look at the list again after we know for sure where everybody is. Either Judson or Reagan will be fired again, but the team that is left has a decent shot to get to the semis as does O'Connor. None of them look like they'll beat Region 3.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 12:40 PM
No Garland....wow! But then again....would you have put 7-3 Tyler Lee in this list, last year at this time?!

I just hope Garland makes a run! Can't wait to see!
Tyler Lee would've been on the list last year because I knew they had a good chance to get to the semis. All I said was that they wouldn't beat Judson and I had my doubts about ET. It's not who will win a title, but who might get to the semis. Once you get to the semis, you can win with a little luck.

dragonsdaddy
11-04-2005, 12:44 PM
looking at the dregs that appear to be not sinking as fast as the rest of the pile in d-1 reg 4, it makes you wonder if s clem would like a do over in repositioning them to the d-2 ranks? they would be far and away the favorite to take regs were they still d-1. guess timing is everything.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 01:08 PM
looking at the dregs that appear to be not sinking as fast as the rest of the pile in d-1 reg 4, it makes you wonder if s clem would like a do over in repositioning them to the d-2 ranks? they would be far and away the favorite to take regs were they still d-1. guess timing is everything.
I don't think anybody in Region 4 SA-area is far away a favorite over anybody else in town, but I do agree that Clemens stands a better chance in D1 vs. D2. It almost looks like they wanted to avoid Judson by re-doing the numbers. As best I can tell, Clemens and District 27 (Northside ISD) were the only people to change numbers this year.

SeguinMatadors
11-04-2005, 03:04 PM
D1 Region 4
C Judson (Not Seguin!)



LMAO.Lonny, you don't even believe this.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 03:11 PM
LMAO.Lonny, you don't even believe this.
I sure do. Even if Reagan goes to the playoffs, I still say Seguin is gone after Week 11. One of the 26-5A teams is gone, but the other one stays.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 03:13 PM
LMAO.Lonny, you don't even believe this.
I fired Judson because I thought they'd miss the playoffs, not because they were a bad team or couldn't win in the playoffs.

LeanderLions3033
11-04-2005, 03:49 PM
I sure am glad that you rehired Leander. I didnt know how you could fire an undefeated team that beat pville and Westlake lol, but maybe thats just me.

GarlandOwl06
11-04-2005, 04:20 PM
Tyler Lee would've been on the list last year because I knew they had a good chance to get to the semis. All I said was that they wouldn't beat Judson and I had my doubts about ET. It's not who will win a title, but who might get to the semis. Once you get to the semis, you can win with a little luck.
OK well you have SLC and ET on the list. They cant both go to the semis if they play first round...?

dragonfootballfan
11-04-2005, 04:49 PM
They don't have a very good power rating and were just scraping by in every game. Winning close games is great and I thought they would start losing to the better teams, but they just kept playing good football. I finally came to the conclusion that they're better than the sum of their parts and to not pick against them.
why not wait to fire them until they actually play those hard teams. In my mind, if you are fired you are done and through and cannot come back. I don't know what you think it is, but this fired then rehired stuff makes me wonder why you would fire someone in the first place

Red Raiders
11-04-2005, 04:52 PM
I was busy working today and thought I'd do a quick new thread instead of looking for the old one's. JT was rehired based upon last week's performance coupled with the Lee game. I said they would lose before the Lee game, but that game made me think they would beat Rockwall. What I thought would be a 6-4 team turned into an 8-2 team 2 weeks ago. If the right Longview team doesn't show up, JT will beat the Lobos.

I am hoping JT beat Lobos and I would love for Lobos to be upset... JT has a possible to win this game plus I predicted them to win also.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 08:15 PM
OK well you have SLC and ET on the list. They cant both go to the semis if they play first round...?
The whole intent is not to say, "These 8 guys will play in the semis", but to say the 8 semis guys will come from the list I still have left. That's how teams like Lufkin and Longview can stay even though they may play in Round 3.

lonny23
11-04-2005, 08:17 PM
why not wait to fire them until they actually play those hard teams. In my mind, if you are fired you are done and through and cannot come back. I don't know what you think it is, but this fired then rehired stuff makes me wonder why you would fire someone in the first place
Billy Martin got fired and rehired by the same guy 3 times.

If you don't watch it, I'm going to fire you! :p It brings to mind my favorite movie scene of all time. Leslie Nielsen sang the national anthem and played an umpire in Naked Gun. I loved it when he tossed the umpire! :D

lonny23
11-04-2005, 08:20 PM
I sure am glad that you rehired Leander. I didnt know how you could fire an undefeated team that beat pville and Westlake lol, but maybe thats just me.
I did it to start with because I didn't think they could compete with Lufkin and Longview. Westlake, Leander, Pflugerville, and Cove might be top teams, but they very well might be 2nd tier teams that can't beat the big boys.

dragons08
11-05-2005, 12:55 AM
lonny redo your list slc is in d2 now!!!

lonny23
11-05-2005, 02:41 AM
lonny redo your list slc is in d2 now!!!
I'm redoing it when I know how everything falls out. I do know one thing,

REAGAN, YOU'RE FIRED! :p

mad_fan
11-05-2005, 05:19 AM
I'm redoing it when I know how everything falls out. I do know one thing,

REAGAN, YOU'RE FIRED! :p
:eek: That's just WRONG! ;)

Cujo
11-05-2005, 07:19 AM
I was busy working today and thought I'd do a quick new thread instead of looking for the old one's. JT was rehired based upon last week's performance coupled with the Lee game. I said they would lose before the Lee game, but that game made me think they would beat Rockwall. What I thought would be a 6-4 team turned into an 8-2 team 2 weeks ago. If the right Longview team doesn't show up, JT will beat the Lobos.
Lonny, I believe you now have sufficient valid evidence to come to your originial conclusion about John Tyler, so if you revise your list, you won't be hearing anything outta me.

BTW, exactly how much are the unemployment checks for the layed-off teams again? :p

mad_fan
11-05-2005, 07:24 AM
No love for Jay, yet?

lonny23
11-05-2005, 09:04 AM
Lonny, I believe you now have sufficient valid evidence to come to your originial conclusion about John Tyler, so if you revise your list, you won't be hearing anything outta me.

BTW, exactly how much are the unemployment checks for the layed-off teams again? :p
Nothing if you get fired before week 10. Maybe $5 after Week 11! :D JT isn't as bad as they looked against Longview, but I do think they found out winning in November is not like October. A team similiar to Longview in talent will knock off JT. I really wouldn't be surprised if Garland finishes them off. If JT comes back to beat the Owls, they might last a while. That game will be a good one if the Lions aren't scarred. We'll have to wait to see what JT team shows up.

lonny23
11-05-2005, 09:05 AM
No love for Jay, yet?
Jay will get some love. I have most of the teams on the bracket, but there are still some holes. I'll publish odds for the playoffs after Saturday.

Cujo
11-05-2005, 09:19 AM
Nothing if you get fired before week 10. Maybe $5 after Week 11! :D JT isn't as bad as they looked against Longview, but I do think they found out winning in November is not like October. A team similiar to Longview in talent will knock off JT. I really wouldn't be surprised if Garland finishes them off. If JT comes back to beat the Owls, they might last a while. That game will be a good one if the Lions aren't scarred. We'll have to wait to see what JT team shows up.
No, I don't think JT is as bad as they looked, I think Longview is just that good. I think they're a lot better then most people give them credit for, which is what makes the previous two weeks for them so bizarre.

I haven't seen Lufkin play this year, but from what I can tell, this year's Quarterfinal game between the two will be their best playoff game yet, at least in terms of the matchups. SLC better be very wary of whoever comes out of that dogfight.

lonny23
09-12-2006, 01:01 PM
This was my Week 10 not fired list from 2005. I had 32 teams left and 212 fired going into the last game of the season. Here is what each team did from that point on. As you can see, SLC ended up sliding into D2 when it looked like they were headed to D1. Reagan didn't make the playoffs for some reason!:p My logic was that whoever got that D1 spot for 26-5A and O'Connor would be the class of the Region in D1 and that came to pass.

D1 Region 1
SLC- D2 champs
E Trinity- D1 champs
M Summit- Blew big lead and upset by EP Franklin in Round 2

D1 Region 2
Longview- Choked Bi-District away vs. South Garland
Pflugerville- Lost to A&M Consolidated in Round 2
A Westlake- Lost to Pflugerville in Bi-District

D1 Region 3
H Lamar- Lost to Westfield in Bi-District
S Westfield- Lost to Judson in Semifinals
GP North Shore- Lost to Westfield in Round 2
Pearland- Lost to North Shore in Bi-District

D1 Region 4
C Judson- Lost D1 title game
SA Reagan- Missed playoffs when Judson beat them by 25
SA O'Connor- Lost to Judson in Round 2

D2 Region 1
Abilene- Got blown up by SLC in Round 3
SGP- Lost to Plano in Round 2
I MacArthur- Lost to SLC in Bi-District
Midland- Lost to Plano in Round 3
Plano- Lost to SLC in Quarterfinals

D2 Region 2
D Carter- Lost to Garland in Round 2
C Cove- Lost to Lufkin in Quarterfinals
Leander- Lost to Cove in Round 2
J Tyler- Lost to Garland in Round 1
Lufkin- Lost to SLC in Semifinals
H Consolidated- Lost to Lufkin in Round 2

D2 Region 3
Katy- Lost D2 title game
H Madison- Lost to Beaumont West Brook in Bi-District
FB Marshall- Lost to Strake Jesuit in Bi-District

D2 Region 4
S Clemens- Lost to SA Madison in Bi-District
S Valley- Lost to Katy in Semifinals
SA Madison- Lost to SV in Quarterfinals
San Marcos- Lost to SV in Bi-District
CC Carroll- Lost to SA Jay in Round 2

8 of the 32 teams lost to teams I fired, while I had both champions and the other 22 teams lost to somebody else on the list.

By round:

All 4 teams in the title game.

7 of 8 teams in the Semifinals with A&M Consolidated being the exception.

10 of the 16 teams in the Quarterfinals and 3 of the 6 I missed were sides of brackets that I didn't deem any team with a chance to get to the Semifinals and none of the 3 won. I didn't see Cy Falls gettting to the Quarterfinals and my teams got beat early on. A&M Consolidated was one of them and they beat my teams. I didn't see EP Franklin getting that far and they upset Summit. I didn't have Berkner or anybody else on their side as a threat. Cy Fair and their partners were not a threat to me either. I didn't care about Harlingen and their quad.

drgnbkr
09-12-2006, 01:09 PM
I love this thread! Rapid-fire rejoinder and random posts at their vey best...I think from the early performances, Summit is going to have to play some D to be around very long in the postseason....

t00 playa
09-12-2006, 01:16 PM
i didnt think westfield was in region III anymore?:eek:

lonny23
09-12-2006, 01:30 PM
I love this thread! Rapid-fire rejoinder and random posts at their vey best...I think from the early performances, Summit is going to have to play some D to be around very long in the postseason....
Yeah, I've been looking at the points Summit has been giving up and they're at risk to be fired somewhere along the way.

I wanted to go back and check this thread out to see how many teams I had left and which one's I didn't fire. I knew I got 7 of the 8 Semifinal teams, but I didn't know the other numbers. All in all, I think I did a good job firing teams. A&M Consolidated, Berkner, and Garland are the only teams I regret firing. I don't regret firing Harlingen, EP Franklin, Cy Falls, and Cy Fair. I'll take 3 regrets out of 212 any day of the week.

lonny23
09-12-2006, 01:31 PM
i didnt think westfield was in region III anymore?:eek:
They're not. This was last year's thread and I was just reviewing.

t00 playa
09-12-2006, 01:40 PM
They're not. This was last year's thread and I was just reviewing.


ahhhh ok..:eek:

nevaplayedk9
09-12-2006, 02:51 PM
LMAO.Lonny, you don't even believe this.
i believe it,

c-lisle
09-12-2006, 03:09 PM
lonny why isnt Tyler Lee anywhere on your list? I still think they are a very talented team. Don't know why but they have really started the season with a thud. Thought maybe that was the reason but I still think they will be very good come playoff time.

c-lisle
09-12-2006, 03:10 PM
lonny why isnt Tyler Lee anywhere on your list? I still think they are a very talented team. Don't know why but they have really started the season with a thud. Thought maybe that was the reason but I still think they will be very good come playoff time.


nevermind if this is last years thread......

mad_fan
09-12-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm confused now too:confused: ...or maybe I understand...:eek:

This is the Week 10 2005 list...unedited for your 8:45 AM firings today...Right???:confused:

Even though it says at the bottom...Last Edited at 1:30 PM today...Right???:rolleyes: