Are we Texans first, Americans second?

[twcpfan1]

Do we consider ourselves Texans first and foremost?

Guess the hypothetical question can be brought up. If for some reason Texas was to secede and declare its independence from the rest of the Union, will you get on board with that? Give up your American Citizenship for a Texas Citizenship?

[yankee]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

[BDB]

will texas put up a border wall?

[twcpfan1]

will texas put up a border wall?

Probably a toll booth like they have at the Canadian border with the same type of friendlier border guards unlike the ones at the Mexican checkpoints.

[DrEdward]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

While I applaud your devotion to the Yankees, I guess I don't understand the laughter over the question. After all, 600,000 of us died as a result of that question about 150 years ago. In answering, we built a far more unified nation than had ever existed previously. Prior to the Civil War, we were a collection of individual states; after a nation of states. The sacrifice was not in vain, so the question proved to be a very valuable one.

[Shokkin da wrld]

id give up my texas citizenship first

[BDB]

id give up my texas citizenship first

you're a raiders fan....you don't count

[mojotrain]

you're a raiders fan....you don't count

I would first need to see who was in charge of the steering wheel in Texas.

[slorch]

I love Texas enough to brag about it.

I love America enough to die for it.

that being said, I'm extremely proud to be a Texan. As far as Americans go, the Texan variety is the best!!!

[stevefoxsc]

american first texas second.

[RedRage00]

american first texas second.

Word.

[jtk1519]

Do we consider ourselves Texans first and foremost?

Guess the hypothetical question can be brought up. If for some reason Texas was to secede and declare its independence from the rest of the Union, will you get on board with that? Give up your American Citizenship for a Texas Citizenship?

Not only will I be on board, but I will be the one leading you all to freedom.

[slorch]

Not only will I be on board, but I will be the one leading you all to freedom.

and we'll promise you a statue by a major highway...:notworthy

[LionVarsityCheer]

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!! :notworthy

[LionVarsityCheer]

I love Texas enough to brag about it.

I love America enough to die for it.

that being said, I'm extremely proud to be a Texan. As far as Americans go, the Texan variety is the best!!!

I like this :D

[CoveMom]

Texan. As long as we get to keep Forts Hood and Bliss. Oh, and NASA and the Tech Corridor North of Dallas, and Schlitterbahn, and Six Flags, and South Padre Island, and Big Bend, and the Davis Mountains, and Odessa/Midland and the whole Permian Basin, and the Gulf of Mexico to the same point as the United States has it now, and Palo Duro Canyon, and the Piney Woods, and all the Lakes we have, and finally, as long as we create a walled-in corridor leading from Oklahoma to and surrounding Austin.

Then, I'm in.

:D

[CoveMom]

and we'll promise you a statue by a major highway...:notworthy

Say the OSR or FM 116 South of Gatesville.

[twcpfan1]

I love Texas enough to brag about it.

I love America enough to die for it.

that being said, I'm extremely proud to be a Texan. As far as Americans go, the Texan variety is the best!!!

I guess your answer is you would give up your right to live and work in Texas if secession ever happened.

That's ok. I'm sure you'll enjoy Louisiana HS football :D

Oh and say hi to your president, McCain/Obama

[Firebird]

"Texas, Our Texas"

Texas, Our Texas! all hail the mighty State!
Texas, Our Texas! so wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, withstanding ev'ry test
O Empire wide and glorious, you stand supremely blest.
(chorus)

Texas, O Texas! your freeborn single star,
Sends out its radiance to nations near and far,
Emblem of Freedom! it set our hearts aglow,
With thoughts of San Jacinto and glorious Alamo.
(chorus)

Texas, dear Texas! from tyrant grip now free,
Shines forth in splendor, your star of destiny!
Mother of heroes, we come your children true,
Proclaiming our allegiance, our faith, our love for you.

Chorus

God bless you Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
That you may grow in power and worth, throughout the ages long.
God bless you Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
That you may grow in power and worth, throughout the ages long.


Empire wide and glorious. I hereby invest myself with the purple and proclaim myself Augustus.

http://legionarybooks.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Statue-Augustus.300150629_std.jpg

[twcpfan1]

Texan. As long as we get to keep Forts Hood and Bliss. Oh, and NASA and the Tech Corridor North of Dallas, and Schlitterbahn, and Six Flags, and South Padre Island, and Big Bend, and the Davis Mountains, and Odessa/Midland and the whole Permian Basin, and the Gulf of Mexico to the same point as the United States has it now, and Palo Duro Canyon, and the Piney Woods, and all the Lakes we have, and finally, as long as we create a walled-in corridor leading from Oklahoma to and surrounding Austin.

Then, I'm in.

:D

Yeah you get all of that and Texas HS football, plus we build our own Las Vegas

[yankee]

While I applaud your devotion to the Yankees, I guess I don't understand the laughter over the question. After all, 600,000 of us died as a result of that question about 150 years ago. In answering, we built a far more unified nation than had ever existed previously. Prior to the Civil War, we were a collection of individual states; after a nation of states. The sacrifice was not in vain, so the question proved to be a very valuable one.

well i was just trying to make light of this situation...as this WAS a hypothetical question...the civil war was a 150 years ago...as you said, a lot has changed. there isn't a whole independence movement going on like there was in, oh 1835...so if the question wasn't hypothetical, then it would be totally rediculous.

[yankee]

Empire wide and glorious. I hereby invest myself with the purple and proclaim myself Augustus.



gross, i would not want my leader to be seen with naked little children

[Firebird]

gross, i would not want my leader to be seen with naked little children

That is not a small naked child, that is Cupid (son of Venus) and illustrates my divine ancestry. That's right, I am descended from the God and Goddess of Sex. Ladies of Texas, eat your heart out.

[yankee]

That is not a small naked child, that is Cupid (son of Venus) and illustrates my divine ancestry. That's right, I am descended from the God and Goddess of Sex. Ladies of Texas, eat your heart out.

:p:notworthy

[78 Spartan]

It's actually an interesting question. We think it is far-fetched from today's perspective, but over long periods of time, freedom can never be taken for granted.

Secession can be a legitimate act of political defiance, it depends upon the provocation by the central government. The Declaration of Independence makes clear that a people whose liberties are being systematically and purposefully infringed upon has not only a right, but in fact a duty to rise up against true tyranny.

So, I suppose it depends on the reasoning behind the move to secede. Let's say that Congress passes a law doubling the tax rate on citizens who live in states with high percentages of illegal aliens -- under the theory that those states are benefiting from cheap labor but creating huge burdens on the federal government that must be funded somehow, and it's not fair to tax people in, say, New Hampshire for it. Let's say the president, who is from New Hampshire, signs this bill into law, and for some reason, his five Supreme Court appointees fail to throw this tax law out as unconstitutional. That might give Texas, and some other states, reason to consider seceding.

Let's say that, notwithstanding the recent Supreme Court ruling, Pelosi's Congress passes a ban on the private ownership of all weapons other than for hunting, and another law that restricts ammunition purchases to 20 rounds per year. Let's say that President Obama signs it into law in defiance of the Supreme Court, which has no military to enforce its rulings. Then Pres. Obama signs an edict giving all Texans 30 days to turn in all weapons at the nearest US Army post. That might give us reason to consider seceding.

Point is, if the government behaves in clearly unconstitutional ways, then states have this right. Texas clearly has this right, as we were admitted by a treaty of annexation with such rights clearly enumerated. The Civil War did not anul our treaty of annexation.

The right to secede is not to be used lightly, but I do not see that the US Civil War trumps the Declaration of Independence in all circumstances. Did the citizens of the Republic of Georgia lose the right to their independence just because they were previously subjugated by the USSR? No.

[slorch]

Yeah you get all of that and Texas HS football, plus we build our own Las Vegas

Lubbock already has the "Strip" and the climate would be pretty similar...

Plus Lubbock is building highways for population up to 500k, so what better way to draw people there?

don't think there's enough water for a Bellagio style fountain though...

[slorch]

I guess your answer is you would give up your right to live and work in Texas if secession ever happened.

That's ok. I'm sure you'll enjoy Louisiana HS football :D

Oh and say hi to your president, McCain/Obama

If we're thinking of pulling the trigger on this thing, I'll just paraphrase David Crockett,"The libs can have their hell, I'm staying in Texas!"

[Firebird]

It's actually an interesting question. We think it is far-fetched from today's perspective, but over long periods of time, freedom can never be taken for granted.

Secession can be a legitimate act of political defiance, it depends upon the provocation by the central government. The Declaration of Independence makes clear that a people whose liberties are being systematically and purposefully infringed upon has not only a right, but in fact a duty to rise up against true tyranny.

So, I suppose it depends on the reasoning behind the move to secede. Let's say that Congress passes a law doubling the tax rate on citizens who live in states with high percentages of illegal aliens -- under the theory that those states are benefiting from cheap labor but creating huge burdens on the federal government that must be funded somehow, and it's not fair to tax people in, say, New Hampshire for it. Let's say the president, who is from New Hampshire, signs this bill into law, and for some reason, his five Supreme Court appointees fail to throw this tax law out as unconstitutional. That might give Texas, and some other states, reason to consider seceding.

Let's say that, notwithstanding the recent Supreme Court ruling, Pelosi's Congress passes a ban on the private ownership of all weapons other than for hunting, and another law that restricts ammunition purchases to 20 rounds per year. Let's say that President Obama signs it into law in defiance of the Supreme Court, which has no military to enforce its rulings. Then Pres. Obama signs an edict giving all Texans 30 days to turn in all weapons at the nearest US Army post. That might give us reason to consider seceding.

Point is, if the government behaves in clearly unconstitutional ways, then states have this right. Texas clearly has this right, as we were admitted by a treaty of annexation with such rights clearly enumerated. The Civil War did not anul our treaty of annexation.

The right to secede is not to be used lightly, but I do not see that the US Civil War trumps the Declaration of Independence in all circumstances. Did the citizens of the Republic of Georgia lose the right to their independence just because they were previously subjugated by the USSR? No.


Not at all analagous. Georgia really does not have any history of independence and it's difficult to understand why they suddenly earned that right, aside from the fact that the USSR lost the ability to maintain control on their borders. If you want to wave the banner of ethnic self-determination, you can just as easily ask why the South Ossetes do not have the right to be independent of part of Russia, while the Georgians do have the right to independence. Does size make right?

As I mentioned in the other thread, since 1800 Georgia has had aboput 30 years of independence. The struggle for suzerainty and control in the Caucuses has been an imperial game for centuries and it is not as nice and neat as the talking heads on CNN would have you believe. The modern republic of Georgia is by no means a natural state, as evidenced by the existence of two enclaves (Abkhazia and South Ossetia), populated by mini-nations that want no part of the Republic of Georgia, yet surprisingly found themselves part of that country.

[78 Spartan]

Not at all analagous. Georgia really does not have any history of independence and it's difficult to understand why they suddenly earned that right, aside from the fact that the USSR lost the ability to maintain control on their borders. If you want to wave the banner of ethnic self-determination, you can just as easily ask why the South Ossetes do not have the right to be independent of part of Russia, while the Georgians do have the right to independence. Does size make right?

As I mentioned in the other thread, since 1800 Georgia has had aboput 30 years of independence. The struggle for suzerainty and control in the Caucuses has been an imperial game for centuries and it is not as nice and neat as the talking heads on CNN would have you believe. The modern republic of Georgia is by no means a natural state, as evidenced by the existence of two enclaves (Abkhazia and South Ossetia), populated by mini-nations that want no part of the Republic of Georgia, yet surprisingly found themselves part of that country.

The American Colonies had zero years of independence from the British crown, yet annually we celebrate the gutsy decision of our FF's to risk it all for freedom in defiance of the King. I don't see why secession has some precondition of minimum years of prior independence in order for it to have an argument of legitimacy.

[slorch]

The American Colonies had zero years of independence from the British crown, yet annually we celebrate the gutsy decision of our FF's to risk it all for freedom in defiance of the King. I don't see why secession has some precondition of minimum years of prior independence in order for it to have an argument of legitimacy.

I think he was comparing it to the time of the Republic of Texas from 1836 to 1845 before becoming a state in the US.

[Firebird]

The American Colonies had zero years of independence from the British crown, yet annually we celebrate the gutsy decision of our FF's to risk it all for freedom in defiance of the King. I don't see why secession has some precondition of minimum years of prior independence in order for it to have an argument of legitimacy.

Yet no one would argue, especially at the time, that the British were completely in the wrong by trying to put the brakes on that effort. And, as I have said, the people actually living in the contested zone are welcoming the Russians with open arms. Why does Georgia have the right to independence and South Ossetia not.

This is a territorial struggle in an obscure corner of the Eurasian landmass. Believe me, Saakashvili is no freedom loving democrat. Even our own diplomats have expressed concerns about his heavy handed treatment of the opposition and questionable bids to quash dissent. We have not been very vocal about them, because up to this point the nation has been one of the few to support our adventure in Iraq. The Caucasus are a fractured, conflict-ridden, confusing place. The outsider strays into the region at his own peril, and will only find that there are no good guys.

[twcpfan1]

I think he was comparing it to the time of the Republic of Texas from 1836 to 1845.

Furthermore, Georgia's borders aren't even clearly defined as it turns out. South Ossetia definitely has a different opinion on where those borders are.

[ktCarl]

Empire wide and glorious. I hereby invest myself with the purple and proclaim myself Augustus.

http://legionarybooks.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Statue-Augustus.300150629_std.jpg


Where's the guy's cowboy hat and horse? Sorry excuse for a Texan.

[twcpfan1]

If we're thinking of pulling the trigger on this thing, I'll just paraphrase David Crockett,"The libs can have their hell, I'm staying in Texas!"

Too late. You already made your declaration. Make sure you think about us on your next trip abroad. We always welcome the tourist dollars. (Hope your currency will be worth a crap someday). I'll let you know if your US Passport is sufficient or if you'll need a visa. The Texas consulate in your city should be able help you with that. Oh. And make sure your shots are up to date. With the declining morality in your country, we can't take any chances.

:D

[slorch]

Furthermore, Georgia's borders aren't even clearly defined as it turns out. South Ossetia defenitely has a different opinion on where those borders are.

the republic of Texas would get us back in the ski reposrt business with some portions of NewMexico and Colorado thrown in. Oklahoma can keep their little strip of prairie that was included in that.

While Firebird and Spartan are having their high brow discussion THAT BELONGS IN THE GEORGIA THREAD!!!, Let's continue our little fantasy here...

Now let's get down to business:

Would we take Shreveport and Lake Charles from Louisiana in our first statement as A$$kickers? or will the casinos be built in Lubbock?

[slorch]

Too late. You already made your declaration. Make sure you think about us on your next trip abroad. We always welcome the tourist dollars. (Hope your currency will be worth a crap someday). I'll let you know if your US Passport is sufficient or if you'll need a visa. The Texas consulate in your city should be able help you with that. Oh. And make sure your shots are up to date. With the declining morality in your country, we can't take any chances.

:D

I ain't leaving.

I was being serious, and the little joker in my head asked, "Why so serious?"

[slorch]

Where's the guy's cowboy hat and horse? Sorry excuse for a Texan.

Looks more like Matt Leinart to me...:rolleyes:

[twcpfan1]

the republic of Texas would get us back in the ski reposrt business with some portions of NewMexico and Colorado thrown in. Oklahoma can keep their little strip of prairie that was included in that.

While Firebird and Spartan are having their high brow discussion THAT BELONGS IN THE GEORGIA THREAD!!!, Let's continue our little fantasy here...

Now let's get down to business:

Would we take Shreveport and Lake Charles from Louisiana in our first statement as A$$kickers? or will the casinos be built in Lubbock?

The suggestion about the ski resorts gets you back in. Welcome to Texas. :D

[Firebird]

Augustus Firebird is a harsh disciplinarian and is very moralistic. There will be no casinos in the Texas Empire.

Our first move is to capture "Little Texas" around Hobbs and Artesia for the oil resources. Not much to look at, but there will be little resistance and we will reap in economic incentives. I do not want any part of Louisiana or Arkansas in my realm, though their governors will be forced to pay tribute in gold and backwoods sharpshooters to serve as auxilaries in my army. We will seek to capture Ruidosa and will carve out a corridor in the mountain west and liberate the ski resorts.

[slorch]

The suggestion about the ski resorts gets you back in. Welcome to Texas. :D

if forced to leave, i wouldn't mind being a secret agent in say...Hawaii:D?

[slorch]

Augustus Firebird is a harsh disciplinarian and is very moralistic. There will be no casinos in the Texas Empire.

Our first move is to capture "Little Texas" around Hobbs and Artesia for the oil resources. Not much to look at, but there will be little resistance and we will reap in economic incentives. I do not want any part of Louisiana or Arkansas in my realm, though their governors will be forced to pay tribute in gold and backwoods sharpshooters to serve as auxilaries in my army. We will seek to capture Ruidosa and will carve out a corridor in the mountain west and liberate the ski resorts.

those areas you speak of were originally in the Republic, until the ignorant impirialistic Americans gave them to the weak kneed new mexicans and Coloradoans.

BTW, with all due respect it's RUIDOSO.

[Firebird]

those areas you speak of were originally in the Republic, until the ignorant impirialistic Americans gave them to the weak kneed new mexicans and Coloradoans.

BTW, with all due respect it's RUIDOSO.
True...I spelled it how I (and my entire West Texan family) SAY IT.

[slorch]

True...I spelled it how I (and my entire West Texan family) SAY IT.

i'll have His Highness's geographers get right on it...

[Firebird]

i'll have His Highness's geographers get right on it...

I will also move the capital. I like the Hill Country setting but hate Austin. I will build a new city near Fredricksburg and call it Firebirdople. The current capitol building will be transported and rebuilt brick by brick 'cause I like it.:cool: All high school football championships will be played in the Circus Maximus I will build. 200,000 seats and I will hold an audience during the celebrations surrounding the games to draw spectators from all over the state.

My generosity knows no bounds. Entry will be free as well as fajita tacos, jalepeno sausage wraps, and brisket sandwiches at the games. I will audition pitmasters from across the state to become head chef.

[BDB]

i either want head of the RGV territory, or in charge of parks and services so i can build all the damn fences i want.

[jtk1519]

That is not a small naked child, that is Cupid (son of Venus) and illustrates my divine ancestry. That's right, I am descended from the God and Goddess of Sex. Ladies of Texas, eat your heart out.

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Mother%20of%20God.jpg

[slorch]

I will also move the capital. I like the Hill Country setting but hate Austin. I will build a new city near Fredricksburg and call it Firebirdople. The current capitol building will be transported and rebuilt brick by brick 'cause I like it.:cool: All high school football championships will be played in the Circus Maximus I will build. 200,000 seats and I will hold an audience during the celebrations surrounding the games to draw spectators from all over the state.

My generosity knows no bounds. Entry will be free as well as fajita tacos, jalepeno sausage wraps, and brisket sandwiches at the games. I will audition pitmasters from across the state to become head chef.

your popularity is growing already...:D

[jrock210]

Texan first bad American second

We as Texans have more pride in our state than our country.

[slorch]

Texan first bad American second

We as Texans have more pride in our state than our country.

if you're going to answer seriously, you'll need to find another thread...

we need contributions on how to spend all the money we're going to have after cutting Louisiana and Taxachussetts loose.;)

[ktCarl]

I always have considered myself a U.S. citizen living in Texas. My families history here is short since me Mum and Dad emigrated here in 1954 from Liverpool, England. My parents never continued with English customs (besides tea and scones) and unlike other groups that emigrate here and want to be hyphenated Americans they chose to be just American and they are proud of it. They loved and accepted everything American. My home, when I was growing up was like Leave It To Beaver except for my parents accent. And no my Dad never called me Lumpy. :D

[okt0ber]

Texas first.

[Redhoss]

True...I spelled it how I (and my entire West Texan family) SAY IT.

We usually get over that around age 40 so there's hope. :D

Now Nucular is a different thing all together. :eek:

[chhspantherfan]

and we'll promise you a statue by a major highway...:notworthy

http://www.texasheroes.net/Sam%20Houston%20statue%20004.jpg

[rocketgrl94]

A YANKEE FIRST!!!!:notworthy

[Redhoss]

i either want head of the RGV territory, or in charge of parks and services so i can build all the damn fences i want.

There won't be any need for fences. As a Republic again, we'll shoot first and ask questions later. :D

[Redhoss]

if you're going to answer seriously, you'll need to find another thread...

we need contributions on how to spend all the money we're going to have after cutting Louisiana and Taxachussetts loose.;)

Well for certain, we'll have enough resources within so we don't import any oil. :D

[Redhoss]

I always have considered myself a U.S. citizen living in Texas. My families history here is short since me Mum and Dad emigrated here in 1954 from Liverpool, England. My parents never continued with English customs (besides tea and scones) and unlike other groups that emigrate here and want to be hyphenated Americans they chose to be just American and they are proud of it. They loved and accepted everything American. My home, when I was growing up was like Leave It To Beaver except for my parents accent. And no my Dad never called me Lumpy. :D

OK, that explains it. :D

[Favpack]

will texas put up a border wall?

Are we talking about keeping you in or out of Texas? :eek:

[The King]

Texan First "by the grace of God"

The 2nd amendment was met as a check against the government becoming too powereful.

[BDB]

There won't be any need for fences. As a Republic again, we'll shoot first and ask questions later. :D

i will take the millitia up to arkysaw/loosyana to make sure none of them northerns get in...

[Shokkin da wrld]

you're a raiders fan....you don't count

yeah i dont think i do...i wasnt even born in texas!!!

[DragonFan0316]

I always have considered myself a U.S. citizen living in Texas. My families history here is short since me Mum and Dad emigrated here in 1954 from Liverpool, England. My parents never continued with English customs (besides tea and scones) and unlike other groups that emigrate here and want to be hyphenated Americans they chose to be just American and they are proud of it. They loved and accepted everything American. My home, when I was growing up was like Leave It To Beaver except for my parents accent. And no my Dad never called me Lumpy. :D

Alright then. Good show lad. My parents are Itailian, well Scicilian actually and I can't get them to swear in english yet.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Alright then. Good show lad. My parents are Itailian, well Scicilian actually and I can't get them to swear in english yet.

Do they say, "Put the horse's head in their bed" in English?

[DragonFan0316]

Do they say, "Put the horse's head in their bed" in English?

No if it gets that far they don't really talk much at all.;)

[cyfallsbooster2]

No if it gets that far they don't really talk much at all.;)

And just encase I offended them.......my real name is Ktcarl and I live in Katy.:eek:

[DragonFan0316]

And just encase I offended them.......my real name is Ktcarl and I live in Katy.:eek:

LMAO!

[Redhoss]

Do they say, "Put the horse's head in their bed" in English?

ROFL

[Redhoss]

A YANKEE FIRST!!!!:notworthy

I knew it, the secret is out. :eek:

[Redhoss]

i will take the millitia up to arkysaw/loosyana to make sure none of them northerns get in...

Good idea :D

[rocketgrl94]

I knew it, the secret is out. :eek:

no secret i claim Yankee babe....Northener
Illinois SUX but i still claim it!

[tayb]

I would consider myself an American first but if the state of Texas was being treated poorly (somehow) and we decided to secede, depending on what the circumstances were (who was going to be the "president" - stuff like that), I think I would stay.

[DrEdward]

Fotunately, I have never been compelled to make the decisions my forefathers had to make. I have always considered myself a Virginian first, but that certainly did not stop me from stating the following many years ago in my native state:

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose or evasion; that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

I would proudly do so again if I should be called back. But Lord knows, the uniform no longer fits. :(

[hunterbunter]

i consider myself a Valleyian

[Shokkin da wrld]

i consider myself a californian

[BDB]

i consider myself a Valleyian

valleyagon? valleyist? valleyite?

[hunterbunter]

valleyagon? valleyist? valleyite?

VALLEYIAN. i HATE those Valleyists! 2nd to that I guess call me raza :D

[BDB]

VALLEYIAN. i HATE those Valleyists! 2nd to that I guess call me raza :D

i think raza is the best you could use...

[lonny23]

Do we consider ourselves Texans first and foremost?

Guess the hypothetical question can be brought up. If for some reason Texas was to secede and declare its independence from the rest of the Union, will you get on board with that? Give up your American Citizenship for a Texas Citizenship?
I'll trade a Texas citizenship for a U.S. one.

[ktchamp97]

I'm not a native Texan, but I married one and played a small part in creating two others. I've lived here for 20 years, work in the oil business, graduated from Texas, and have lived in Midland...all of that has to count for something, right? :D

[slorch]

I'm not a native Texan, but I married one and played a small part in creating two others. I've lived here for 20 years, work in the oil business, graduated from Texas, and have lived in Midland...all of that has to count for something, right? :D

Change Texas for Yale and those are Presidential qualifications...;)

[cyfallsbooster2]

I'm not a native Texan, but I married one and played a small part in creating two others. I've lived here for 20 years, work in the oil business, graduated from Texas, and have lived in Midland...all of that has to count for something, right? :D

Sounds like you are are just tolerating it. Us REAL Texans EMBRACE it.

[Maroondog]

The main thing to consider is that if the good Lord had made anything better than Texas he'd have kept it for himself!