Trinity 31 Mac 24

[baylordad]

One heck of a game!! Trinity's pass defense still makes me tense!!!!

[catman]

Trinity led 14-0 but MacArthur fought back to tie it at 24 all. Tinity had 500 yards of offense.

[baylordad]

Trinity:
Nance 46 carries, 318 yards
Handy 21 carries, 173 yards
Vittatoe 3 for 7 - 28 yards

Irving Mac
Matt Percle 20-30 - 2 INT's for 302 yards
Speight 8 carries, 66 yards
Ron Brooks 9 catches, 191 yards

[GarlandOwl06]

Thanks Baylordad for posting that info on the game. I cannot believe how good ET is at running the football!!! Scary! :eek:

[baylordad]

Talk about SCARY. Trinity's pass defense is what is scary. Scares me to death every time the opposing QB drops back to pass, and I have lived through WWII, Korea, Vietman and all the Gulf Crap!! Now a couple of those I was a boy. Served in that one with a V. Best of luck to eveyone that make the playoffs.

[drgnbkr]

Talk about SCARY. Trinity's pass defense is what is scary. Scares me to death every time the opposing QB drops back to pass, and I have lived through WWII, Korea, Vietman and all the Gulf Crap!! Now a couple of those I was a boy. Served in that one with a V. Best of luck to eveyone that make the playoffs.

Your #4 put some hits on the Mac receivers...I saw a couple of them go alligator arms after taking some shots to the ribs..but your right, there were some helter skelter moments in the secondary for the Trojans...Keep the other team off the field with that running game & it may not matter...

[LeanderLions3033]

Nothing against Trinity because they seem to be a great defense, but i went from thinking they were the best football team in High school football this year (partly because the Trinity fans brainwashed me) to thinking that SLC will just dog them in the 1st round if this happens. SGP seemed to expose Trinity and other teams now are going to be able to take advantage of that. If it worries you that Trinity can't defend the pass that well against Irving Mac think about what McElroy, Renfro, Jacobsen, Allen, and company will do to them. Maybe this is just my humble opinion. If Nance can get going on offense against SLCs d then they can make it close and maybe pull away with a w, but i can see McElroy having a field day if he has time.

[farmerfan]

Just got home from the game, some of my thoughts are.

Nance is a good back, but I believe that Handy is the better of the two. Handy hits the hole a lot harder and is a pure north/south runner, Nacne trys to dance to much and many times could have had a bigger gain if he would have kept running, instead he tried to dance and make something happen and that caused some missed opportunities.

I think Trinity should take #40 and move him to FB, it could spell Nance who seems to tire very quickly, if they had #40 leading for Handy, Trinity would be more of a big play threat than with both Nance and Handy in the backfield at the same time.

The receivers missed some opportunities, twice Trinity should have had TD's, but the wide outs dropped the ball.

The Trinity defense needs some help in the secondary. I understan that a cushion is needed against some receivers, I just think that playing some press coverage would allow the defense to be more productive and give them a better chance at stoping the out as well as that wide receiver swing Mac kept running.

Overall Trinity played well, they could have scored at the end of the game as well as another TD, Trinity easily could have won this game 45-17, they played much better than last week, but they need some work in the secondary. The most impressive thing about Trinity tonight was the 7 minute drive to open the game with, then the 97 yard drive they had while not attempting a single pass.

Mac has some talent and speed, the defense is good but not great. They lost their cool tonight and need to watch that come playoff time. #4 Should have been ejected from the game when he pushed Trinity's wide-out. Mac should win their 1st round playoff game, but I dont see them beating Plano.

Overall it was a good ballgame, but Trinity was clearly the better team. Come playoff time they are going to need a lot of production out of their secondary if they want to go deep in the playoffs.

[farmerfan]

Nothing against Trinity because they seem to be a great defense, but i went from thinking they were the best football team in High school football this year (partly because the Trinity fans brainwashed me) to thinking that SLC will just dog them in the 1st round if this happens. SGP seemed to expose Trinity and other teams now are going to be able to take advantage of that. If it worries you that Trinity can't defend the pass that well against Irving Mac think about what McElroy, Renfro, Jacobsen, Allen, and company will do to them. Maybe this is just my humble opinion. If Nance can get going on offense against SLCs d then they can make it close and maybe pull away with a w, but i can see McElroy having a field day if he has time.


I think you are right.

If they play SLC, McElroy is going to have plenty of success.
For Trinity it will be all about ball control, but then again thats what everyone thinks when they play the dragons.

[gritty52]

Nance broke 2000 yds.tonight for the season. He wound up with close to 2200 for the year.He missed the TD record by one. A SLC guy sat behind me tonight and said he would like to be his agent.That's a hell of a compliment coming from him. Handy had 180 tonight or close. Folks MAC had a very good defense until tonight. SGP didn't even score on them and they beat us. Playoff's next!!!!!!! :D

[The Great Evaluator]

1st of all, hats off to Mac, they played their guts out like they always do and almost pulled off the upset. I know they were 9-0 but Trinity was a favorite at least in my book. The Mac Defense forced 2 turnovers that led to points and helped keep the game close. The Trinity ground game was good as usual but Mac kept the big runs down for the most part. Gent and Berueter are the heart and soul of that team and i would be hard pressed to find 2 people i would rather have next to me in a foxhole. I would be willing to bet that the Mac Defense is black and blue tommorow as Nance and Handy combined for 67 carries and 500 yards rushing against what i consider one of the area's best defenses.

But in the end Trinity wore em down taking a knee in the final minute at the MacArhur 10 yard line or they could have gotten 38 if they needed it. A beautifully executed halfback pass that was dropped by the receiver could have made it 45 so the score was a little closer than it should have been but both these teams are gonna be tough outs in the playoffs for somebody.

[DragonFan]

I too went to the game and felt that Trinity can run the ball but cannot defend against the pass. If IMac had been a little more patient with the pass then they could have won the game. I thougt that the Trinity Defense line was slow and did not put much pressure on the IMac QB. IMac was undersized on the D-Line and was push into the Linebackers making it hard for the Linebackers to fill the gaps. Nance did make people miss when they had shots at him in the backfield. Was not impressed with the overall speed of the Trinity Defense although they did make some very solid hits! IMac was able to stop the Trinity Offense enough times to win but Trinity still had a 2 to 1 advantage on time of possesion. (30+ mins for Trinity and around 15+ for IMac).

Trinity is good but I do not know if they can withstand the pace and speed of the SLC offense. The SLC defense will make stops of the Trinity Offense but I do not think that the Trinity defense will stop the Dragon O. I have said it before, if SLC can make two stops then the Dragons win by 14!

[gtownowlfootball06]

3 way tie for first as long as SGP wins tomorrow night. What a great district!

[farmerfan]

one thing i did notice about the play calling was the Coach Lineweaver was fine with just running the ball. Trinity did not utilize the play action like they did last week. That is a solid demension of the Trinity offense and one that will give some defenses fits. With the way they were able to run the ball, I guess they did not need to use it, but when they need to Vittatoe is very effective and it just makes this offense that much more difficult to stop.

[da wiz]

way to go trojans,,,,, if they do get to play carroll, remember this,
no one in the caroll backfield has playoff experience, luna and daniel
are gone, a mistake here or there can change any game , especially
a playoff game,, i can see carroll throwing for 400 yards and losing
42-38..............

[farmerfan]

way to go trojans,,,,, if they do get to play carroll, remember this,
no one in the caroll backfield has playoff experience, luna and daniel
are gone, a mistake here or there can change any game , especially
a playoff game,, i can see carroll throwing for 400 yards and losing
42-38..............

You have a lot of school spirit, but be careful what you say about playoff experience, Carroll has plenty of other guys that do have the experience and im sure McElroy will be fine come next week.

[DragonFan]

The offensive line, the entire defense, all the recievers, Both QB's, several of the RB's, I think there is enough playoff experience for the Dragons to line up and play with anyone. In fact SLC has more playoff experience than any other team in Texas, not to mention the longest active playoff winning streak in Texas.

[da wiz]

my kids went to trinty not me, ive been watching high school football in
texas, since i graduated in 1974, anything can happen on any given night,


i do have ties to trinity though, i coached some of the current players
in pee wee ball , the vaitai brothers,davilla,bean,grodi , etc.......

[da wiz]

The offensive line, the entire defense, all the recievers, Both QB's, several of the RB's, I think there is enough playoff experience for the Dragons to line up and play with anyone. In fact SLC has more playoff experience than any other team in Texas, not to mention the longest active playoff winning streak in Texas.
i dont remember seeing those guys get any crucial playing time
in last year's title run,,, i could be wrong though,,,, i will go check
the stats from last year via dallas morning news.........

[nate]

The SLC defense will make stops of the Trinity Offense but I do not think that the Trinity defense will stop the Dragon O. I have said it before, if SLC can make two stops then the Dragons win by 14!

I do not believe the SLC defense can stop the Trinity offense unless they make careless mistakes like fumbling the ball or committing dumb penalties. SLC is not a smashmouth team. It is not what they see each day and each week. Trinity could put up 500 yds rushing next week if they play to their potential.

[Favpack]

My first question is -- where did all the Trinity posters go? Hmmm...

Next question is - that's an unbelievable number of yards given up by both squads for a slightly above average score.

It would appear SLC will handle ET without major stress - you know SLC will have a D plan that will be effective. And if ET is nervous about pass defense last night - it will be a long game for them next week.

If they play SLC that is. Looks like Trinity peaked 3 weeks ago.

[stinger]

FAVPAK...believe me...Trinity will work hard in the ares necessary. Are you sure SLC will have the answer for their tremendous running game. They haven't been dominant in that area so far, especially lately. It will be a great game, but SLC, as IMAC, will be facing a MUCH more physical team than before. Trinity should have, and could have scored at leat two more touchdown last night. Last night was an example of getting tough when it was needed most. Adversity did not overwhelm Trinity, and that is good. As has been posted before...they couldn't be stopped with eight or more in the box. That only leaves three to defend a very accurate quarterback. Trinity has not shown a lot of plays that have been traditionally in their repertoire over the years.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Trinity:
Nance 46 carries, 318 yards
Handy 21 carries, 173 yards
Vittatoe 3 for 7 - 28 yards

Irving Mac
Matt Percle 20-30 - 2 INT's for 302 yards
Speight 8 carries, 66 yards
Ron Brooks 9 catches, 191 yards46 carries?! Memorial didn't even overload Jamaal like that! They're going to get Nance killed out there. :eek:

[gritty52]

You dance with the ones you bring to the dance. I talked to Dimo as I call him after the game and he told me he wanted the ball. Also there were a few scouts at the game that just shook their heads at his performance. :D

[TxLawDawg]

The game last night was great. I was glad to see that both teams lived up to my expectations.

ET's running backs are both great. I think I would agree with the earlier poster who said that the fullback #25 was probably a more solid runner because he runs north and south and has great speed and strength. They are both great running backs, but they owe a lot to ET's offensive line. They are big and block really well. There were a few times in the 2nd half that the O line looked tired, but then they would pick it back up again. ET's defensive front is pretty good, but the secondary needs some work. I think a team like SLC could really light them up. IMAC runs a spread offense, but their QB made some bad passes which really helped ET's defense look better than they may actually be.

IMAC played a good game. The offense can move the ball well, but again, I think the QB needs more accuracy. He really left his receivers high a dry with a few of his passes, and they took big hits. No. 3 for IMAC is a phenomenal receiver. He's very small, but very quick and shifty. I can't tell you how many YACs he had or how many tackles he got out of. He also made an incredible catch in the 4th quarter when he was covered deep by two defenders, he went up for the ball, tipped it, and then grabbed it on his way down for a catch. I think IMAC's defense actually did a decent job (as odd as it may sound) by not giving up the long run. ET didn't break any really long runs until the 4th quarter, although they had plenty of 8-12 yd gains throughout the game. IMAC's front four were no match for the size and strength of ET's offensive line.

Both teams played very emotionally, and there was a lot of talking going on among players, which led to several personal fouls. Both teams need to work on keeping themselves under control and just playing between the whistles. Those penalties can really hurt in a playoff situation.

[BigFoot]

ET was playing very soft on that #3 ...respecting his speed and talent. I thought they stepped it up in the second half. I do think that they are coming along nicely considering they have not played a spread until last week.
They have not had to contend with that aspect before. Too bad the learning curve came in the last two games and the toughest games of the year so far. I agree that we have to work hard but I still believe in my Trojans and will just wait to see what happens in the end.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

My first question is -- where did all the Trinity posters go? Hmmm...


The real Trinity fans are still here! The snot-nosed, adolescent posters are the ones who disappeared and I'm glad they did. Too much taunting and chest beating. Every game has to be played - there's no "gimme's."

[TrojanHorse03]

I'm going to let u ALL in on sumthing, the Trinity football team isnt worried about ANY aspect of its team going in to WHOEVER they play in the first round. The only people twitchy all of the sudden r the posters and non Trinity fans. Peaked 3 weeks ago huh, on the contrary the team has gotten better each week like it always has but so has the comp. Unlike every other team in the hunt we've the only team whos already been conditioned for the playoffs by 2 9-1 opponents that WILL do some damage in the playoffs. Youve guys have contributed some interesting opinions but let me add some things u guys seem to conveniently exclude. First we could of as easily had 45 pts against one of the better defensive teams, the last opportunity we chose to take a knee inside the 5 yd line out of respect, and the team could care less about how everyone pays attention to margin of victory.Even though I-Mac's gameplan leaned heavily towards the pass, we got 3 interceptions which equals a Trinity win against any opponent. The defense also made the stops when it mattered most. Lastly I'm going to give props to proud, a worthy opponent in I-MAC who was ridng a 22 game regular season winning streak. Between these 2 last opponents we will be hard pressed to find better defenses. If u want to know the general attitude of the entire team they feel closer than theyve every been after relying on every unit for 4 qts in a game where each team played as if everything was on the line.

[gritty52]

Trojan for life you hit it on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!! Us real Trojan fans are still here! The ones that leave games early or don't talk win or lose are the generic ones. I stayed at the stadium last night until 11: and still took 30 minutes to get out WITH ALL THE Trojan fans . I'm ready for the freaking playoffs!!Whoever we draw bring em on win, lose, or draw Let's ROCK. HAKA :D :D :D

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

If u want to know the general attitude of the entire team they feel closer than theyve every been after relying on every unit for 4 qts in a game where each team played as if everything was on the line.

I felt that same impression just watching the players' demeanor after the game. They've had a learning experience playing SGP and MacArthur which will prepare them for the playoffs.

[dragonfly]

How has Mac's front 4 been against other running teams? Trinity handled them, but is their defensive line very good?

[DragonFan]

Trinity is a very good team. I have seen some very good things from them the two times I have seen them. I have also noticed a few things that could be taken advantage of. The same is true for the possible Trinity/SLC matchup. SLC has some things that need to be worked on after the Grapevine game. I would think that the best defense will win the game and I know which defense I would pick.

[TIGER]

Nance broke 2000 yds.tonight for the season. He wound up with close to 2200 for the year.He missed the TD record by one. A SLC guy sat behind me tonight and said he would like to be his agent.That's a hell of a compliment coming from him. Handy had 180 tonight or close. Folks MAC had a very good defense until tonight. SGP didn't even score on them and they beat us. Playoff's next!!!!!!! :D


Wow! what an offensive rushing game. However, Nance will not be the leading 5A rusher in the state this year despite the huge offensive rushing yards and number of carries put up in his last regular season game. The kid from McAllen Texas who also has 2100+ yards is only a few yards behind him still has a regular season game left to play. He will finish the regular season tonight getting his yards playing only 9 games. Nance had a great season behind a great line but will most likely have to settle for second in total regular season yds and TD's.

[BigFoot]

The only difference is the number of carries for the number of yards. Nance did not play 4 quarters accept in the SGP and IMAC games. He didn't ever play the whole third quarter ...mostly one possession into third and he was done for the night.

[TxLawDawg]

I'm going to let u ALL in on sumthing, the Trinity football team isnt worried about ANY aspect of its team going in to WHOEVER they play in the first round. The only people twitchy all of the sudden r the posters and non Trinity fans. Peaked 3 weeks ago huh, on the contrary the team has gotten better each week like it always has but so has the comp. Unlike every other team in the hunt we've the only team whos already been conditioned for the playoffs by 2 9-1 opponents that WILL do some damage in the playoffs. Youve guys have contributed some interesting opinions but let me add some things u guys seem to conveniently exclude. First we could of as easily had 45 pts against one of the better defensive teams, the last opportunity we chose to take a knee inside the 5 yd line out of respect, and the team could care less about how everyone pays attention to margin of victory.Even though I-Mac's gameplan leaned heavily towards the pass, we got 3 interceptions which equals a Trinity win against any opponent. The defense also made the stops when it mattered most. Lastly I'm going to give props to proud, a worthy opponent in I-MAC who was ridng a 22 game regular season winning streak. Between these 2 last opponents we will be hard pressed to find better defenses. If u want to know the general attitude of the entire team they feel closer than theyve every been after relying on every unit for 4 qts in a game where each team played as if everything was on the line.

ET is a very good team, but I wouldn't call IMAC's defense one of the best in the state.

[DragonFan]

IMac's defense is undersized. Trinitiy pushed the D-Line into the Linebackers making filling the holes almost impossible. IMacs linebackers had serveral chances to stop Nance in the backfield and never did wrap him up. Poor tackling and good running by Nance gave Trinity the ablity to run all day. Trinity also did a great job of sealing the outside because of the great push the O-line had on IMac's D-line. I was much more impressed with SGP larger more athletic D-Line. Trinity had its way with the IMac defense and could have scored at leat 7 to 14 more points.

A great game was played and now both teams need to get ready for whomever comes over the horizion! IMac might have a rematch of the game against Denton Ryan, while chances are good that Trinity will draw SLC. Either way there will be 3 good games on Saturday at Texas Stadium!

[DodgeCitySlicker]

I do not believe the SLC defense can stop the Trinity offense unless they make careless mistakes like fumbling the ball or committing dumb penalties. SLC is not a smashmouth team. It is not what they see each day and each week. Trinity could put up 500 yds rushing next week if they play to their potential.

Lucky for Trojan fans, Lineweaver will NOT underestimate the Dragon D as you have here.
I have seen no better team at making adjustments than the Dragons on BOTH sides of the ball. Expect Vittaoe to be passing by the 2nd half.

The Dragon D will be the best D the Trojans have faced yet.
500 rushing yards??? Don't bet on it.

[farmerfan]

Lucky for Trojan fans, Lineweaver will NOT underestimate the Dragon D as you have here.
I have seen no better team at making adjustments than the Dragons on BOTH sides of the ball. Expect Vittaoe to be passing by the 2nd half.

The Dragon D will be the best D the Trojans have faced yet.
500 rushing yards??? Don't bet on it.


Carroll has a great D, but I would argue that the SGP defense is better than Carroll.
Many people are greatly mistaken if they think Vittatoe cant pass. He is very accurate and has some big TE's as well as tall WR's to throw to. Considering how they were running the ball last night, they did not need to put the ball in the air. If people think you have stoped the Trinity offense by stoping the running game then you are making a big mistake.

[BigFoot]

Great to meet you last night farmerfan...I hope we have learned from playing these spread offenses. Hope to see you at the playoff games.

[drgnbkr]

Carroll has a great D, but I would argue that the SGP defense is better than Carroll.
Many people are greatly mistaken if they think Vittatoe cant pass. He is very accurate and has some big TE's as well as tall WR's to throw to. Considering how they were running the ball last night, they did not need to put the ball in the air. If people think you have stoped the Trinity offense by stoping the running game then you are making a big mistake.

I can't comment on SGP's D, but I can on Carroll's...no one has been able to score running the ball this year on this D...Some have gotten yards, but with adjustments by the Dragons D, they have been able to shut em down when it mattered...Trinity's running game is as good as there is, so it will be a test..can't wait..if it happens...it will be fun!

[dragonsdaddy]

FAVPAK...believe me...Trinity will work hard in the ares necessary. Are you sure SLC will have the answer for their tremendous running game. They haven't been dominant in that area so far, especially lately. It will be a great game, but SLC, as IMAC, will be facing a MUCH more physical team than before. Trinity should have, and could have scored at leat two more touchdown last night. Last night was an example of getting tough when it was needed most. Adversity did not overwhelm Trinity, and that is good. As has been posted before...they couldn't be stopped with eight or more in the box. That only leaves three to defend a very accurate quarterback. Trinity has not shown a lot of plays that have been traditionally in their repertoire over the years.
not that it means squat considering, but how many yards would gv need to gain, or lose before the slc run d would be credible? or dr either for that matter. research at least a little before commenting. holding a team to 5 and less than 50 yds rushing may not be outstanding, or maybe it is.

[DodgeCitySlicker]

Carroll has a great D, but I would argue that the SGP defense is better than Carroll.
Many people are greatly mistaken if they think Vittatoe cant pass. He is very accurate and has some big TE's as well as tall WR's to throw to. Considering how they were running the ball last night, they did not need to put the ball in the air. If people think you have stoped the Trinity offense by stoping the running game then you are making a big mistake.


I would agree that Vittatoe is a very solid passer. The jury is still out concerning his receivers in big games in my mind. They may be competent, but in the few games I've seen, they have not had enough touches for ME to make a judgement. Vittatoe's passes HAVE been accurate though and he has been able to find the open receivers.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that SGP's D is better than SC's.
While I WAS impressed with SGP's play on BOTH sides of the ball there was one ET drive from around their own 20 where they ran left virtually every play, picking up 5-15+ yards per carry until they scored. That won't happen against the Dragons. ET will have to be (and I'm sure they will be) more creative against an SC team that will adjust better.
Did you (or anyone else) notice ET's propensity to run left in the games you saw? Just curious?

On offense, SGP was able to run and pass and this is where I saw ET's possible weakness. SGP's QB missed on at least 3 passes where the SGP receiver had gotten way behind the defense only to be overthrown. Those should have been TD's or at least FG's.
With McElroy's accuracy and SC's speed at receiver those plays result in points on the board 9 out of 10 times.
This is why I think ET will be passing more if this game happens. The ET O will need to be more creative AND unless they get a BIG lead early the may be playing catch up due to their exploitable D.

[dragonsdaddy]

you sound like you were in outlaw's ear last year, when lp went away from what brung them to the semi-dance. i gotta go with my strength if i'm lineweaver. the po's is not time to start experimenting.

[DodgeCitySlicker]

you sound like you were in outlaw's ear last year, when lp went away from what brung them to the semi-dance. i gotta go with my strength if i'm lineweaver. the po's is not time to start experimenting.


When I say "get more creative" I DON'T mean play away from your strength.
I mean don't run left 5-6 times in a row.
You of all people should know that coaches Dodge and Mendoza will find a way to stop that stuff.

BTW,I wouldn't get too down on Outlaw. The Pack was in it all game long and it took a great defensive play to keep the W intact for the Dragons.

[DodgeCitySlicker]

oh shoot look at the time!

got to get to my home away from home....










































DRAGON STADIUM!!!!

[DodgeCitySlicker]

oh well...
Ryan couldn't hold up their end of the deal.


DAMN!...I really wanted to see this game.