View Full Version : North Shore! Questionable This Year?????????
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 04:30 PM
I know that "Da Sho" usually has great teams that beat up region 3. I think that part of it has to do with the enrollment(4215) which is one of the largest in the state. I wonder what would happen if Galena Park ISD decided to add a third high school. Lets see how good the mustangs would be year in and year out. I've yet to fugure out the enrollment gap between Galena Park (1743) and North Shore (4215). I have a buddy thats a coach there, and I have this same argument with him. Back when Beaumont only had two high schools, West Brook could dance in the numbers game with North Shore. Actually in 1994 when North Shore first got into the district 22-5A, West Brook was D1 and North Shore went D2 for the playoffs. The addition of a third high school in Beaumont in 1997 caused us to have some down years. However Stump has brought us back. We are one of the smallest 5A schools in the state, and I feel we can hang with anybody. I also think we will beat North Shore this year with their new 5'6'' QB taking over for McGinty.
ftballin11
08-05-2008, 04:33 PM
I know that "Da Sho" usually has great teams that beat up region 3. I think that part of it has to do with the enrollment(4215) which is one of the largest in the state. I wonder what would happen if Galena Park ISD decided to add a third high school. Lets see how good the mustangs would be year in and year out. I've yet to fugure out the enrollment gap between Galena Park (1743) and North Shore (4215). I have a buddy thats a coach there, and I have this same argument with him. Back when Beaumont only had two high schools, West Brook could dance in the numbers game with North Shore. Actually in 1994 when North Shore first got into the district 22-5A, West Brook was D1 and North Shore went D2 for the playoffs. The addition of a third high school in Beaumont in 1997 caused us to have some down years. However Stump has brought us back. We are one of the smallest 5A schools in the state, and I feel we can hang with anybody. I also think we will beat North Shore this year with their new 5'6'' QB taking over for McGinty.
I have more questions about westbrook.
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 04:34 PM
I have more questions about westbrook.
Like what!
:cool:
ftballin11
08-05-2008, 04:36 PM
Like what!
:cool:
Well they have talent every year and do nothin. Why is this year different.
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Well they have talent every year and do nothin. Why is this year different.
Trust me. Compared to North Shore, we dont have as much talent. However we did go undefeated in district, and really and truly should of beat Clements. Besides what do you gain from losing in the 4th round as opposed to losing in the 2nd? Let me answer......Nothing. What has North Shore done recently besides lose in the playoffs. I dont want to hear about 2003. heck we won a state championship in the past as well.
ftballin11
08-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Trust me. Compared to North Shore, we dont have as much talent. However we did go undefeated in district, and really and truly should of beat Clements. Besides what do you gain from losing in the 4th round as opposed to losing in the 2nd? Let me answer......Nothing. What has North Shore done recently besides lose in the playoffs. I dont want to hear about 2003. heck we won a state championship in the past as well.
2 weeks of practice. Experience playing teams like Judson. So you know what to expect the next time.
Undefeated in district is unimportant. What your record against good teams, like katy NS Falls.
78 Spartan
08-05-2008, 04:49 PM
Both NS and BWB will have great non-district schedules.
We've talked about North Shore playing Katy/Ike/CyFalls/LaMarque/Southlake Carroll. What a ridiculous schedule! But West Brook has Westfield/Ike/Katy so they'll be prepared for district also. With two quality common opponents (Katy and Ike), we'll have an early gage on who should be favored when they finally meet up.
Both teams should cruise through district play and be aiming at a whale of a tenth game, West Brook at North Shore, on November 7th.
I think both teams could be 7-2 going into the game and it'll still be the best game in the state that weekend to decide a district title. Can anyone project a better Week Ten matchup?
West Brook has a great QB and a great RB coming back, so they ought to score points like a pinball machine in that district. North Shore will be, I think, more defensive minded. Should be a great game.
Maxthedog
08-05-2008, 04:57 PM
This is an easy solution. Last game of district this issue will be settled.
I love this stuff, Call preps says Southlake sucks and NOW you say Northshore does. You can bet a bunch of kids from SLC won't buy into this bull:)
I'm taking Northshore vs Westbrook
82 5A State Champs
08-05-2008, 05:04 PM
I dont think anything is questionable about NS this year. They will be good, an always. The district title in the 215 will come down to that Week 10 game between The Brook and The Sho'. Should be a great game.
82 5A State Champs
08-05-2008, 05:08 PM
Trust me. Compared to North Shore, we dont have as much talent. However we did go undefeated in district, and really and truly should of beat Clements. Besides what do you gain from losing in the 4th round as opposed to losing in the 2nd? Let me answer......Nothing. What has North Shore done recently besides lose in the playoffs. I dont want to hear about 2003. heck we won a state championship in the past as well.Tru dat! That was back when there was ONLY one state champion crowned. The state title games dont mean as much, IMO, since it is watered down somewhat with two champions per classification. There was definitely a true state champion crowned when there was only one state champion, not two. I mean no disrespect to any of our past champions, in any division. A title is a title. It would just mean more, to me, if there was only on champion crowned in 5A.
78 Spartan
08-05-2008, 05:32 PM
I mean no disrespect to any of our past champions, in any division. A title is a title. It would just mean more, to me, if there was only on champion crowned in 5A.
Amen, brother. But don't get me started on that one.....
ruffshod
08-05-2008, 05:51 PM
I know that "Da Sho" usually has great teams that beat up region 3. I think that part of it has to do with the enrollment(4215) which is one of the largest in the state. I wonder what would happen if Galena Park ISD decided to add a third high school. Lets see how good the mustangs would be year in and year out. I've yet to fugure out the enrollment gap between Galena Park (1743) and North Shore (4215). I have a buddy thats a coach there, and I have this same argument with him. Back when Beaumont only had two high schools, West Brook could dance in the numbers game with North Shore. Actually in 1994 when North Shore first got into the district 22-5A, West Brook was D1 and North Shore went D2 for the playoffs. The addition of a third high school in Beaumont in 1997 caused us to have some down years. However Stump has brought us back. We are one of the smallest 5A schools in the state, and I feel we can hang with anybody. I also think we will beat North Shore this year with their new 5'6'' QB taking over for McGinty.
Enrollment is'nt so much a factor as is participation. LaMarque, for one, has lower numbers overall, but they have more kids come out for football than 80% of the houston area schools. As Ns started winning consistently, the kids all wanted a piece of it. So, the program grew from there. As for the disparity, GPISD uses I-10 as the primary dividing line. While the NS area has space for development, GP is pretty much built out.
t00 playa
08-05-2008, 07:24 PM
I know that "Da Sho" usually has great teams that beat up region 3. I think that part of it has to do with the enrollment(4215) which is one of the largest in the state. I wonder what would happen if Galena Park ISD decided to add a third high school. Lets see how good the mustangs would be year in and year out. I've yet to fugure out the enrollment gap between Galena Park (1743) and North Shore (4215). I have a buddy thats a coach there, and I have this same argument with him. Back when Beaumont only had two high schools, West Brook could dance in the numbers game with North Shore. Actually in 1994 when North Shore first got into the district 22-5A, West Brook was D1 and North Shore went D2 for the playoffs. The addition of a third high school in Beaumont in 1997 caused us to have some down years. However Stump has brought us back. We are one of the smallest 5A schools in the state, and I feel we can hang with anybody. I also think we will beat North Shore this year with their new 5'6'' QB taking over for McGinty.
i wonder ummmm what would happen if... north shore was a 2A school and they played in the rio grande valley...... who cares! i really could care less about why your numbers are the way they are etc etc.... stop whining about it.... who cares! katy has low numbers like westbrook....so whats your excuse? ... and anytime you go one round further... you separate yourself from the rest by that margin...until the state finals.... so thats another weak argument..you lost to clements..and look what katy did to them the following week..... well i guess we will see week 10..... but until then im sure these kind of excuse based, we get no respect based, this site doesnt know what they are talking about, i wonder what would happen if..., etc etc posts and excuses will keep coming... oh and about the enrollment gap... its not hard to figure out..... galena park is landlocked.... there is much more housing within NS attendance zone within GPISD than there is in NS... you could redraw the lines, however... it would probably make no sense....because you would have kids that live 3 mins from NS high school going to galena park, a school in which they live 15-20 mins from.......got it? galena park is a small community and the numbers arent there on the south side of I-10.... plain and simple..
oh...and as of right now...every team in the state is questionable..... errr i mean with the exception of West Brook..:eek:
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 08:44 PM
i wonder ummmm what would happen if... north shore was a 2A school and they played in the rio grande valley...... who cares! i really could care less about why your numbers are the way they are etc etc.... stop whining about it.... who cares! katy has low numbers like westbrook....so whats your excuse? ... and anytime you go one round further... you separate yourself from the rest by that margin...until the state finals.... so thats another weak argument..you lost to clements..and look what katy did to them the following week..... well i guess we will see week 10..... but until then im sure these kind of excuse based, we get no respect based, this site doesnt know what they are talking about, i wonder what would happen if..., etc etc posts and excuses will keep coming... oh and about the enrollment gap... its not hard to figure out..... galena park is landlocked.... there is much more housing within NS attendance zone within GPISD than there is in NS... you could redraw the lines, however... it would probably make no sense....because you would have kids that live 3 mins from NS high school going to galena park, a school in which they live 15-20 mins from.......got it? galena park is a small community and the numbers arent there on the south side of I-10.... plain and simple..
oh...and as of right now...every team in the state is questionable..... errr i mean with the exception of West Brook..:eek:
Yeah.That still doesn't make sense. GPISD wants to keep North Shore a football powerhouse..There is a need for a 3rd highscool. Why do you think North Shore keeps adding. A campus for 9-10th and then a campus for 11-12th,.etc..........And actually Katy has about 250 more Kids than West Brook. We would be much better if we could take 250 more kids from Ozen.Im sure there would be about 10 atheletes out of that bunch......All im saying is cut North Shore's enrollment and by 30% to 50% and lets see if you would be a region3 powerhouse........probably not. Numbers do count for a program like NS......Heck if you put Houston Furr in the valley they would be a top team......and you say that West brook is "not" questionable.......thats your opinion and your entitled to it...... :notworthy
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 08:49 PM
i wonder ummmm what would happen if... north shore was a 2A school and they played in the rio grande valley...... who cares! i really could care less about why your numbers are the way they are etc etc.... stop whining about it.... who cares! katy has low numbers like westbrook....so whats your excuse? ... and anytime you go one round further... you separate yourself from the rest by that margin...until the state finals.... so thats another weak argument..you lost to clements..and look what katy did to them the following week..... well i guess we will see week 10..... but until then im sure these kind of excuse based, we get no respect based, this site doesnt know what they are talking about, i wonder what would happen if..., etc etc posts and excuses will keep coming... oh and about the enrollment gap... its not hard to figure out..... galena park is landlocked.... there is much more housing within NS attendance zone within GPISD than there is in NS... you could redraw the lines, however... it would probably make no sense....because you would have kids that live 3 mins from NS high school going to galena park, a school in which they live 15-20 mins from.......got it? galena park is a small community and the numbers arent there on the south side of I-10.... plain and simple..
oh...and as of right now...every team in the state is questionable..... errr i mean with the exception of West Brook..:eek:
Ok and this weak argument statement you made.......yeah we lost to Clements......And you lost to Judson in your own backyard...And look what Euless Trinity did to them.....
:rolleyes:
HUM398
08-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Yeah.That still doesn't make sense. GPISD wants to keep North Shore a football powerhouse..There is a need for a 3rd highscool. Why do you think North Shore keeps adding. A campus for 9-10th and then a campus for 11-12th,.etc..........And actually Katy has about 250 more Kids than West Brook. We would be much better if we could take 250 more kids from Ozen.Im sure there would be about 10 atheletes out of that bunch......All im saying is cut North Shore's enrollment and by 30% to 50% and lets see if you would be a region3 powerhouse........probably not. Numbers do count for a program like NS......Heck if you put Houston Furr in the valley they would be a top team......and you say that West brook is "not" questionable.......thats your opinion and your entitled to it...... :notworthy
Enrollment doesn't play as big of a roll as you would think. Look at Lufkin, you will see that they arguably have more talent year in and year out then MOST teams in the State and they are hovering around 2200-2300 kids. Westbrook most years wouldn't be able to keep up with the type of speed and talent they produce. Lufkin despite having less kids at the High School, their Varsity roster boasts 80 kids. While teams with similar Enrollments like Humble(1 year after split) and Westbrook only boast around 50-60 kids.
Beaumont_Legend
08-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Enrollment doesn't play as big of a roll as you would think. Look at Lufkin, you will see that they arguably have more talent year in and year out then MOST teams in the State and they are hovering around 2200-2300 kids. Westbrook most years wouldn't be able to keep up with the type of speed and talent they produce. Lufkin despite having less kids at the High School, their Varsity roster boasts 80 kids. While teams with similar Enrollments like Humble(1 year after split) and Westbrook only boast around 50-60 kids.
Whatever......Speed, smeed. You see what happened to Humble's All Pro Team in 1997 at Baytown's Stallworth Stadium.Yall were so big and bad.....ranked #1 in greater Houston and top 5 in the state..Leo Mills, David Givens, Sammie Davis.etc.......Whats was the end result 39-28...and you said we can't keep up with teams like that most years.You need to think about that statement...Lufkin is a community school...West Brook is one of three public schools and one huge 5A private high school in Beaumont......
HUM398
08-05-2008, 09:14 PM
Whatever......Speed, smeed. You see what happened to Humble's All Pro Team in 1997 at Baytown's Stallworth Stadium.Yall were so big and bad.....ranked #1 in greater Houston and top 5 in the state..Leo Mills, David Givens, Sammie Davis.etc.......Whats was the end result 39-28...and you said we can't keep up with teams like that most years.You need to think about that statement...Lufkin is a community school...West Brook is one of three public schools and one huge 5A private high school in Beaumont......
:rolleyes:
Diverting from the point by using unneeded chest thumping.
Remember this...Humble holds the lead in the record all time against the brook..if we want to start the chest thumping that is.
It doesn't matter if Lufkin is a community school, or a City school...that has no real bearing on the numbers "effectiveness". You need to re-evaluate what you THINK you know about High School football...maybe football in general.
Squirrel88
08-05-2008, 09:48 PM
Whatever......Speed, smeed. You see what happened to Humble's All Pro Team in 1997 at Baytown's Stallworth Stadium.Yall were so big and bad.....ranked #1 in greater Houston and top 5 in the state..Leo Mills, David Givens, Sammie Davis.etc.......Whats was the end result 39-28...and you said we can't keep up with teams like that most years.You need to think about that statement...Lufkin is a community school...West Brook is one of three public schools and one huge 5A private high school in Beaumont......
Your just upset that NS is in your district.
t00 playa
08-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Ok and this weak argument statement you made.......yeah we lost to Clements......And you lost to Judson in your own backyard...And look what Euless Trinity did to them.....
:rolleyes:
what was the judson vs trinity score? what was the katy clements score? when you find out.... let me know....:eek:
saMavsFan
08-05-2008, 09:57 PM
what was the judson vs trinity score? what was the katy clements score? when you find out.... let me know....:eek:
Trinity-13, Judson 10. I don't know the Westbrook/Clements score.
DiamondJ2
08-05-2008, 10:16 PM
Wait. Listen. Is that SLC crying about their small enrollment? Nope. That's tears of joy because they didn't worry about enrollment or lack of athletic talent while winning multiple championships.
Fleeman93
08-05-2008, 10:25 PM
One thing that is questionable is exactly how much North Shore beats Westbrook by.
I'm not sure what it is but Brook never plays up to their potential. Maybe it is the coaching? Maybe a lack of leadership? Maybe a lack of discipline? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to change much. This year Westbrook has the talent so we will see if they can put it to good use on the field.
TrojanHorse03
08-05-2008, 10:29 PM
what was the judson vs trinity score? what was the katy clements score? when you find out.... let me know....:eek:
If you let some people tell it North Shore must be the worse 14-1 team ever!
Squirrel88
08-05-2008, 11:12 PM
What is it with all of these lesser teams hating NS? You would think there would be a argument between the 2 big teams that are to face NS... Katy & SLC. Wait... Those two teams have grown up posters... Nevermind... :eek:
ktCarl
08-06-2008, 12:01 AM
Oh,well, my Katy friends will hate me but I think that NS will hand Katy a defeat at the first game this season. Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes and usually at the beginning of the season it takes a young Katy team some time to gel and hit on all cylinders and if an opponent has a lot of athletes they can present enormous problems. Just look at 2003 when Lufkin whupped up on Katy at the first game. It took that Katy team until the playoffs to start being a great team. Of course I'll take an old fashioned butt whipping at the beginning of the season if the season ends like it did in 2003. Good luck Stang fans.
salsashark
08-06-2008, 12:11 AM
Oh,well, my Katy friends will hate me but I think that NS will hand Katy a defeat at the first game this season. Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes and usually at the beginning of the season it takes a young Katy team some time to gel and hit on all cylinders and if an opponent has a lot of athletes they can present enormous problems. Just look at 2003 when Lufkin whupped up on Katy at the first game. It took that Katy team until the playoffs to start being a great team. Of course I'll take an old fashioned butt whipping at the beginning of the season if the season ends like it did in 2003. Good luck Stang fans.
Awww, come on...
I could never hate you, especially when you speak the truth in love!
PearlandDL09
08-06-2008, 02:13 AM
north shore by 21
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 02:58 AM
what was the judson vs trinity score? what was the katy clements score? when you find out.... let me know....:eek:
How about this score......28-7 in your own backyard at rice university in 2007....and in 1996 30-21 in your own backyard again..to the same team Judson...
:D
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:07 AM
:rolleyes:
Diverting from the point by using unneeded chest thumping.
Remember this...Humble holds the lead in the record all time against the brook..if we want to start the chest thumping that is.
It doesn't matter if Lufkin is a community school, or a City school...that has no real bearing on the numbers "effectiveness". You need to re-evaluate what you THINK you know about High School football...maybe football in general.
Ok.lets start the chest thumping.........and how many state championships does humble have?..and in the years you got most of your victories against WB we had a winning % of about 12.....And thats an awesome statement that I need to re-evealuate what i think about football.Maybe somebody needs to tell Barack Obama he needs re-evaluate his views on changing America...Its an opinion, and by the constitution of this great land, im entitled to it! :cool:
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:09 AM
north shore by 21
wow.another North Shore co-signor
:Censor:
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:10 AM
What is it with all of these lesser teams hating NS? You would think there would be a argument between the 2 big teams that are to face NS... Katy & SLC. Wait... Those two teams have grown up posters... Nevermind... :eek:
lol.wow. Grown ups on a message board
you're cool :notworthy
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:12 AM
Trinity-13, Judson 10. I don't know the Westbrook/Clements score.
36-33 clements
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:14 AM
One thing that is questionable is exactly how much North Shore beats Westbrook by.
I'm not sure what it is but Brook never plays up to their potential. Maybe it is the coaching? Maybe a lack of leadership? Maybe a lack of discipline? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem to change much. This year Westbrook has the talent so we will see if they can put it to good use on the field.
You just show up to Durley Stadium on Sept 27th, and all of your assumptions/questions/opinions will be altered........
:outlaw
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:18 AM
Wait. Listen. Is that SLC crying about their small enrollment? Nope. That's tears of joy because they didn't worry about enrollment or lack of athletic talent while winning multiple championships.
with Converse Wagner in the fold, we'll see how many more Judson can get. I know you were close in 07, but nobody remembers 2nd place. Did you see how Wagner was ranked in the top 5 basketball polls all year...........thats a hint to how new schools change things
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:22 AM
Your just upset that NS is in your district.
I love that North Shore is in our district. They should win every sport that they participate in..I mean they only have double the enrollment of all the schools.....anything short of an undefeated district championship is not acceptable...for any sport
Fleeman93
08-06-2008, 06:49 AM
You just show up to Durley Stadium on Sept 27th, and all of your assumptions/questions/opinions will be altered........
:outlaw
Nothing that will happen on the 27th will prove or disprove my thoughts about Westbrook. How far Westbrook goes in the playoffs will prove or disprove my thoughts.
ktCarl
08-06-2008, 07:20 AM
north shore by 21
vs WHO?
Squirrel88
08-06-2008, 09:32 AM
I love that North Shore is in our district. They should win every sport that they participate in..I mean they only have double the enrollment of all the schools.....anything short of an undefeated district championship is not acceptable...for any sport
Glad your on our side! Welcome to NS Nation!
Big Daddy Cool
08-06-2008, 12:14 PM
You just show up to Durley Stadium on Sept 27th, and all of your assumptions/questions/opinions will be altered........
:outlaw
I doubt it very seriously that anyone's assumptions/questions/opinions would be altered by showing up to Durley Stadium on Sept.27th when the game is Nov. 7th at GPISD Stadium.
Squirrel88
08-06-2008, 12:24 PM
I doubt it very seriously that anyone's assumptions/questions/opinions would be altered by showing up to Durley Stadium on Sept.27th when the game is Nov. 7th at GPISD Stadium.
LOL :notworthy
Fleeman93
08-06-2008, 12:36 PM
I doubt it very seriously that anyone's assumptions/questions/opinions would be altered by showing up to Durley Stadium on Sept.27th when the game is Nov. 7th at GPISD Stadium.
He was talking about the game with Katy.
PearlandDL09
08-06-2008, 12:58 PM
vs WHO?
west brook
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 02:39 PM
I doubt it very seriously that anyone's assumptions/questions/opinions would be altered by showing up to Durley Stadium on Sept.27th when the game is Nov. 7th at GPISD Stadium.
Thats because I was talking about the Katy/WB game
ftballin11
08-06-2008, 02:41 PM
Oh,well, my Katy friends will hate me but I think that NS will hand Katy a defeat at the first game this season. Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes and usually at the beginning of the season it takes a young Katy team some time to gel and hit on all cylinders and if an opponent has a lot of athletes they can present enormous problems. Just look at 2003 when Lufkin whupped up on Katy at the first game. It took that Katy team until the playoffs to start being a great team. Of course I'll take an old fashioned butt whipping at the beginning of the season if the season ends like it did in 2003. Good luck Stang fans.
I thought the same ting for a while, but i can onnly think of two years really that we started slow and became a really good team later, that was 02' and 03'. Both teams were at the helm of coach johnston. Joseph i believe has not lost a predistrict game and only lost 1 district. I think it took him a while to win the title because when he took the job there was a lot of turn over in the coaching staff, he finally found his guys. Sure the offense will struggle early whos doesnt. But to say Katy starts slow is innacurate when they havent lost an early game since 03'. I know many teams that would love to start that slow.
ftballin11
08-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Thats because I was talking about the Katy/WB game
What was the score the last time that Katy and Westbrook met. I believe it was the reg. 3 finals in 05'.
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 02:43 PM
Glad your on our side! Welcome to NS Nation!
Yeah im on your side all right. I was the guy that sat on North Shore's side of Rice stadium and cheered for Judson amongst the NS faithful as they once again beat you up in your own backyard.lol
:D
I thought the same ting for a while, but i can onnly think of two years really that we started slow and became a really good team later, that was 02' and 03'. Both teams were at the helm of coach johnston. Joseph i believe has not lost a predistrict game and only lost 1 district. I think it took him a while to win the title because when he took the job there was a lot of turn over in the coaching staff, he finally found his guys. Sure the offense will struggle early whos doesnt. But to say Katy starts slow is innacurate when they havent lost an early game since 03'. I know many teams that would love to start that slow.
Good point...who have the lost to under Joseph? Carrol,Clear Lake, Cy Falls and that last sec FG to Alief Taylor? Is that right?
HUM398
08-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Ok.lets start the chest thumping.........and how many state championships does humble have?..and in the years you got most of your victories against WB we had a winning % of about 12.....And thats an awesome statement that I need to re-evealuate what i think about football.Maybe somebody needs to tell Barack Obama he needs re-evaluate his views on changing America...Its an opinion, and by the constitution of this great land, im entitled to it! :cool:
You just keep beating your chest about a State title you won in 84. Thats like aggy bragging about a championship game they won in '39.
Point is, that until West brook proves that they can be a State title contender...don't expect the teams like NS, and Katy to respect you.
ftballin11
08-06-2008, 02:45 PM
Yeah im on your side all right. I was the guy that sat on North Shore's side of Rice stadium and cheered for Judson amongst the NS faithful as they once again beat you up in your own backyard.lol
:D
Yea well maybe Westbrook was jealous because they fell two rounds short.
Yeah im on your side all right. I was the guy that sat on North Shore's side of Rice stadium and cheered for Judson amongst the NS faithful as they once again beat you up in your own backyard.lol
:D
It's always the group of dudes sitting at the table talking about the guys the hot chicks are dancing with.
ftballin11
08-06-2008, 02:47 PM
You just keep beating your chest about a State title you won in 84. Thats like aggy bragging about a championship game they won in '39.
Point is, that until West brook proves that they can be a State title contender...don't expect the teams like NS, and Katy to respect you.
Bingo, earn the respect first. Westbrook is nobody. They are not even a threat to do anything.
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 02:49 PM
You just keep beating your chest about a State title you won in 84. Thats like aggy bragging about a championship game they won in '39.
Point is, that until West brook proves that they can be a State title contender...don't expect the teams like NS, and Katy to respect you.
And dont expect anybody in Region 3 to respect Humble...Yall have never won anything but a lucky regional final game in 1995.and that was all because of Dave Boston......and oh yeah, you put out few pros, but who hasn't
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 02:51 PM
Point is, that until West brook proves that they can be a State title contender...don't expect the teams like NS, and Katy to respect you.[/QUOTE]
Bingo, earn the respect first. Westbrook is nobody. They are not even a threat to do anything.[/QUOTE]
Bingo my :Censor:
But I guess Katy is a threat.....and so is Humble
right!
And dont expect anybody in Region 3 to respect Humble...Yall have never won anything but a lucky regional final game in 1995.and that was all because of Dave Boston......and oh yeah, you put out few pros, but who hasn't
This is crazy....in one thread you've attacked North Shore....a team Westbrook hasnt beaten since 1996...and the scores werent even close.
Humble, who West Brook is 1-6 against since 98 and was shut out in many of those games.
and Katy, who beat WB 42-8 the last time they met.
But at the sametime, I understand that you don't represent the entire WB fanbase.....lol.....23 more days.
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:04 PM
This is crazy....in one thread you've attacked North Shore....a team Westbrook hasnt beaten since 1996...and the scores werent even close.
Humble, who West Brook is 1-6 against since 98 and was shut out in many of those games.
and Katy, who beat WB 42-8 the last time they met.
But at the sametime, I understand that you don't represent the entire WB fanbase.....lol.....23 more days.
I represent myself. I am an individual.
I represent myself. I am an individual.
Yes you are.
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Yes you are.
Thus, Im entitled to my own views/assumptions, that do not have anything to do with the Beaumont West Brook program.
:rolleyes:
Thus, Im entitled to my own views/assumptions, that do not have anything to do with the Beaumont West Brook program.
:rolleyes:
I'm pretty sure you know what they say about Assumptions right?
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure you know what they say about Assumptions right?
They make an :Censor: out of you and me
wesaxman34
08-06-2008, 03:21 PM
I sure hope Westbrook can back up all the trash talk you have made on this board...for your sake and everybody's sanity :o
atwelljroc
08-06-2008, 03:24 PM
They make an :Censor: out of you and me
Come on guys...keep about football, we all have teams we pull for, but every week one has to lose...Judson last season lost 4 games before playoffs and were the fourth team in the district...but we bettered all the other teams in our district to make the State Title game for the 12th time...lesson to learn...early season scores mean nothing, make the playoffs and turn it on...we were the visitor in every playoff game last year because of our 6-4 regular season record...so make the playoffs and...
"turn it up a notch...that is the Texas way to play football"
They make an :Censor: out of you and me
"You" as in the one making assumptions....the one dealing with FACTS....far from an A@@..
Some FACTS:
2007 West Brook 14 Humble 6
2006 West Brook 32 Humble 49
2004 West Brook 0 Humble 38
2003 West Brook 25 Humble 39
2002 West Brook 0 Humble 31
1999 West Brook 16 Humble 27
2001 West Brook 7 North Shore 49
2000 West Brook 7 North Shore 41
2005 West Brook 8 Katy 42
Assumption:
All you guys needed was an extra 250 kids at the school and things would have been different.
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 04:49 PM
I sure hope Westbrook can back up all the trash talk you have made on this board...for your sake and everybody's sanity :o
Once again! I am an individual. My views do not reflect those of that program. Im just an alumnus/former player/fan. Do not take what I say and try to connect it to that school. Im just voicing my opinion. You worry about whats going on in Region 1 or DFW or wherever you are....
Beaumont_Legend
08-06-2008, 04:53 PM
"You" as in the one making assumptions....the one dealing with FACTS....far from an A@@..
Some FACTS:
2007 West Brook 14 Humble 6
2006 West Brook 32 Humble 49
2004 West Brook 0 Humble 38
2003 West Brook 25 Humble 39
2002 West Brook 0 Humble 31
1999 West Brook 16 Humble 27
2001 West Brook 7 North Shore 49
2000 West Brook 7 North Shore 41
2005 West Brook 8 Katy 42
Assumption:
All you guys needed was an extra 250 kids at the school and things would have been different.
Wow. You know how to go to collier-sharp and pull scores from previous years. You are so cool. :notworthy
Give me the scores from 1982-94, since you like posting up scores from past years........
82 5A State Champs
08-06-2008, 05:05 PM
You just show up to Durley Stadium on Sept 27th, and all of your assumptions/questions/opinions will be altered........
:outlaw
There you go, putting your foot in your mouth again. I hate to say it, but I think Katy wins this one.
Wow. You know how to go to collier-sharp and pull scores from previous years. You are so cool. :notworthy
Give me the scores from 1982-94, since you like posting up scores from past years........
So say's the poster throwing around his schools Championship from 84.
Stick around...my coolness is contagious.....you're gonna be some work....but eventually I will get to you. We get posters like this every year....and as their teams go....the cocky ones slowly disappear....5atfb's version of "Survivor"....Katy, North Shore and Humble have been on the island for awhile now...they too were like you while the ship was still docked.
NSMustangProud
08-06-2008, 08:10 PM
I doubt it very seriously that anyone's assumptions/questions/opinions would be altered by showing up to Durley Stadium on Sept.27th when the game is Nov. 7th at GPISD Stadium.
Haha.....laughing over here
t00 playa
08-06-2008, 08:44 PM
Yeah im on your side all right. I was the guy that sat on North Shore's side of Rice stadium and cheered for Judson amongst the NS faithful as they once again beat you up in your own backyard.lol
:D
you were there cheering for judson because you and your boys from beaumont surely werent playing any football at that stage in the playoffs...so i guess cheering for judson on our side made you feel better about your woes...but hey..everybody has thier own ways of dealing with that stuff.... why dont you get out of region III and then talk some talk...... we could careless who you were cheering for.... we were playing in the state semis ...and...umm you were not..... period....... now your entire NS fetish is something to laugh about.....lol....
ok ok... heres my rankings...
1)West brook
2)SLC
3)Trinity
4)Katy
5)Cy Falls
6)hightower
7)IKE
8)North shore
There are you happy now? now can you stop crying about enrollment #s, lack of respect, and everything else you are complaining about??:eek:
wesaxman34
08-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Once again! I am an individual. My views do not reflect those of that program. Im just an alumnus/former player/fan. Do not take what I say and try to connect it to that school. Im just voicing my opinion. You worry about whats going on in Region 1 or DFW or wherever you are....
That doesn't make any sense. I never said anything about the football program's views, or about your views reflecting theirs. I was simply talking about the all of the commotion about how "unfair" the polls have been to Westbrook, etc.
I know you are voicing your opinion and you have made that clear several times. I just think this subject is spinning on wheels because there is no way to truly justify preseason rankings for ANY team until they get out on the field, and this has also been noted several times as well.
We all know you have high hopes for Westbrook and that is all good, but seriously, you are being way too defensive. I had a little sarcasm to my statement earlier, so just chill dude:cool:
82 5A State Champs
08-06-2008, 09:45 PM
What was the score the last time that Katy and Westbrook met. I believe it was the reg. 3 finals in 05'.
It was 42-8 katy....if someone else hasn't already posted it.
82 5A State Champs
08-06-2008, 09:55 PM
I sure hope Westbrook can back up all the trash talk you have made on this board...for your sake and everybody's sanity :o
Guys, I am glad that there is another Bruin football supporter on this site, besides me. This guy (Beaumont Legend) however, doesn't speak for me or many of our other fans. I support my team and would love nothing more than to beat some of the good teams that we will play this season. However, I am not foolish enough to say some of the audastic things that he says or to believe that we will destroy teams like Katy and NS. It just wont happen. I have tried to get him to cool it a bit, but he doesn't listen. He is a fool. Sorry, legend. You are making all West Brook fans look bad.
HUM398
08-06-2008, 10:46 PM
And dont expect anybody in Region 3 to respect Humble...Yall have never won anything but a lucky regional final game in 1995.and that was all because of Dave Boston......and oh yeah, you put out few pros, but who hasn't
I'm not asking anyone to respect us.
I didn't make a thread any year asking for Humble to be ranked higher then they were...In fact, im not much a **** talker in regards to High school football. Humble is a team that has proven that they can play with the big boys, we may not beat them very often....but we always make it interesting. Respect us or not...it has no bearing on the fact that our boys are going to go out there and show you how to play Smash mouth football... Just ask your head coach if he thinks Humble is as big of a push over as you'd like to paint them.
A few pros? We have 6 NFL players, and 1 CFL player... thats more then a few.
Move along skippy.
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 12:06 AM
Guys, I am glad that there is another Bruin football supporter on this site, besides me. This guy (Beaumont Legend) however, doesn't speak for me or many of our other fans. I support my team and would love nothing more than to beat some of the good teams that we will play this season. However, I am not foolish enough to say some of the audastic things that he says or to believe that we will destroy teams like Katy and NS. It just wont happen. I have tried to get him to cool it a bit, but he doesn't listen. He is a fool. Sorry, legend. You are making all West Brook fans look bad.
Just for clarification purposes, I never said that West Brook would destroy North Shore or Katy. Hold your horses buddy. How can I make an group of fans look bad. You need to re-evaluate that statement. I can say what I want to say. Just because your conservative about your views, doesn't mean I make audastic statements. What side of the track did you grow up on? I can say what I want to say and when I want to say it. Thats the beauty of living in America.You apparently dont understand that. I a normal person with an opinion. I just said that West brook can compete with these schools. You think that katy will beat West brook and thats fine. I dont think thats audastic or ludacris, its just your opinion. So from what I understand, you are the voice of Beaumont West Brook football. No other fans have the same views as me. You called me a fool for voicing my opinion. You might need to go and read the constitution of the United States @ Theodore Johns library on Fannet Rd. You said I need to chill?...You're hilarious .Im just insane aren't I? :D
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 12:18 AM
I'm not asking anyone to respect us.
I didn't make a thread any year asking for Humble to be ranked higher then they were...In fact, im not much a **** talker in regards to High school football. Humble is a team that has proven that they can play with the big boys, we may not beat them very often....but we always make it interesting. Respect us or not...it has no bearing on the fact that our boys are going to go out there and show you how to play Smash mouth football... Just ask your head coach if he thinks Humble is as big of a push over as you'd like to paint them.
A few pros? We have 6 NFL players, and 1 CFL player... thats more then a few.
Move along skippy.
I never asked 5A Texasfootball to rank us higher. I just said that I disagree to where they ranked Bmt West Brook. I mean they are ranked #9 in the coaches poll, #12 on Dave Campbells and #25 on this site. Thats too much a of a gap, and somebody made a mistake: either the coaches, Dave Campbells or this site........
And im not asking the head coach a :Censor: thing. Im just going to get my popcorn ready and watch a few games. Its not that serious compadre. Why dont you go find Neal Quillen and ask him what his favorite color is? And before you make a smart comment, I know he's retired.
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 12:23 AM
That doesn't make any sense. I never said anything about the football program's views, or about your views reflecting theirs. I was simply talking about the all of the commotion about how "unfair" the polls have been to Westbrook, etc.
I know you are voicing your opinion and you have made that clear several times. I just think this subject is spinning on wheels because there is no way to truly justify preseason rankings for ANY team until they get out on the field, and this has also been noted several times as well.
We all know you have high hopes for Westbrook and that is all good, but seriously, you are being way too defensive. I had a little sarcasm to my statement earlier, so just chill dude:cool:
I have high hopes for alot of things......How can I be defensive on a message board. I normally just support my opinion. I will continue to do so buddy. Good luck this year!
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 12:30 AM
you were there cheering for judson because you and your boys from beaumont surely werent playing any football at that stage in the playoffs...so i guess cheering for judson on our side made you feel better about your woes...but hey..everybody has thier own ways of dealing with that stuff.... why dont you get out of region III and then talk some talk...... we could careless who you were cheering for.... we were playing in the state semis ...and...umm you were not..... period....... now your entire NS fetish is something to laugh about.....lol....
ok ok... heres my rankings...
1)West brook
2)SLC
3)Trinity
4)Katy
5)Cy Falls
6)hightower
7)IKE
8)North shore
There are you happy now? now can you stop crying about enrollment #s, lack of respect, and everything else you are complaining about??:eek:
Oooh. I tink you made little mistake. North Shore or Katy shouldn't be ranked. I demand a re-count! IMMMEDIATELY :mad:
HUM398
08-07-2008, 01:33 AM
I never asked 5A Texasfootball to rank us higher. I just said that I disagree to where they ranked Bmt West Brook. I mean they are ranked #9 in the coaches poll, #12 on Dave Campbells and #25 on this site. Thats too much a of a gap, and somebody made a mistake: either the coaches, Dave Campbells or this site........
And im not asking the head coach a :Censor: thing. Im just going to get my popcorn ready and watch a few games. Its not that serious compadre. Why dont you go find Neal Quillen and ask him what his favorite color is? And before you make a smart comment, I know he's retired.
Bro...do me a favor and stick around to eat your crow. Because if the bruins don't hang with the likes of Katy, Ike, or NS...then you are going to have a big pot of steaming crow to eat.
If they do, Congrats...your team will have earned the right to mentioned among the Houston Area powers.
And by the way...I assume Coach Quillen's favorite colors are probably Red and White now...considering he is the Defensive Line coach for Atascocita now.
HUM398
08-07-2008, 01:37 AM
I have high hopes for alot of things......How can I be defensive on a message board. I normally just support my opinion. I will continue to do so buddy. Good luck this year!
What opinion have you supported.
Since when is doubting the legitimacy or accuracy of a source count as supporting your opinion?
You have given me no football reasoning as to why the Bruins should garner anything higher the ranking of 20? as far as i am concerned the bottom five could all switch around, they are all pretty much equal.
all i have read is "WHAT? WE AREN'T HIGHER....WELL AT LEAST THE EXPERTS HAVE IT RIGHT...THANKS DAVE!"
"WEST BROOK CAN HANG WITH ANYONE...REMEMBER WHEN THEY WON A STATE TITLE BACK IN THE 80'S ...YEAH... IF WE HAD NS NUMBERS WE WOULD HAVE A 70 WINNING STREAK AND A STATE TITLE THIS DECADE TOO!"
wesaxman34
08-07-2008, 07:30 AM
I am so ready for some football:D
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 07:52 AM
Bro...do me a favor and stick around to eat your crow. Because if the bruins don't hang with the likes of Katy, Ike, or NS...then you are going to have a big pot of steaming crow to eat.
If they do, Congrats...your team will have earned the right to mentioned among the Houston Area powers.
And by the way...I assume Coach Quillen's favorite colors are probably Red and White now...considering he is the Defensive Line coach for Atascocita now.
Get out of dodge...........I didn't know that. Did he come out of retirement? If they win they win, if the lose, thats cool. Im just looking forward to it. And by the way im from southeast texas, we never eat crow, we eat gumbo :D
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 07:59 AM
What opinion have you supported.
Since when is doubting the legitimacy or accuracy of a source count as supporting your opinion?
You have given me no football reasoning as to why the Bruins should garner anything higher the ranking of 20? as far as i am concerned the bottom five could all switch around, they are all pretty much equal.
all i have read is "WHAT? WE AREN'T HIGHER....WELL AT LEAST THE EXPERTS HAVE IT RIGHT...THANKS DAVE!"
"WEST BROOK CAN HANG WITH ANYONE...REMEMBER WHEN THEY WON A STATE TITLE BACK IN THE 80'S ...YEAH... IF WE HAD NS NUMBERS WE WOULD HAVE A 70 WINNING STREAK AND A STATE TITLE THIS DECADE TOO!"
You have taken what I said and twisted it all around. Know I see how rumors get started. You are out of line. I did give several reasons. You could also look at other polls. You might need to work on developing a sense of understanding. Instead of trying to interpret things of what you think somebody said or meant...A 70 game winning streak. Lets get realistic. Can you show me where I said that. Yeah I did chest thump to you because Humble has never won anything. So what if it was in the 80''s. What Jesse Owens accomplished was done back a long time ago. Does that take away from what it meant......You probably dont undertstand that either. Lets see how you twist that around. And you're probably upset that Humble doesn't show up on any other polls but the one on this website..Give me some"football reasoning" to why thats the case......
HUM398
08-07-2008, 04:25 PM
You have taken what I said and twisted it all around. Know I see how rumors get started. You are out of line. I did give several reasons. You could also look at other polls. You might need to work on developing a sense of understanding. Instead of trying to interpret things of what you think somebody said or meant...A 70 game winning streak. Lets get realistic. Can you show me where I said that. Yeah I did chest thump to you because Humble has never won anything. So what if it was in the 80''s. What Jesse Owens accomplished was done back a long time ago. Does that take away from what it meant......You probably dont undertstand that either. Lets see how you twist that around. And you're probably upset that Humble doesn't show up on any other polls but the one on this website..Give me some"football reasoning" to why thats the case......
First off, i don't give a damn about rankings. So Humble not showing up in the beloved Dave's magazine is no surprise...its the same magazine that picked us to miss the playoffs and finish 5th or 6th last year...had Humble played the brook at Turner...it would of been a district championship instead of 2nd... The coaches poll won't put humble in the Top 20 either because we don't have the name recognition to go with success...plus i don't believe we deserve it just quite yet...not that the coaches poll even really matter anyhow. But as far as reasoning goes...This year is a year where the 10-25 could be just about anyone...The state across the board is extremely young , in fact after the top 9 you could put anyone up there that returns a good number of starters and had a successful season and their would be little to dispute. Fact of the matter is, most polls will go with the safe picks...the usual suspects. I commend the 5a staff for putting together a poll thats "different". Something where they put their names on the line, instead of gathering their poll data based on a Question sheet, Coaches poll, and AP poll.
Should Humble be ranked? Maybe not...Maybe they should. Only time will tell. here is one thing i know though...Our boys will knock the opponents teeth out to prove they deserve to win a game, FORGET THE POLLS....we are after a District title this year.
HUM398
08-07-2008, 04:28 PM
Get out of dodge...........I didn't know that. Did he come out of retirement? If they win they win, if the lose, thats cool. Im just looking forward to it. And by the way im from southeast texas, we never eat crow, we eat gumbo :D
Well I'm from Piney woods of Humble Texas...and we serve the crow despite the *****ing and moaning
82 5A State Champs
08-07-2008, 04:32 PM
Just for clarification purposes, I never said that West Brook would destroy North Shore or Katy. Hold your horses buddy. How can I make an group of fans look bad. You need to re-evaluate that statement. I can say what I want to say. Just because your conservative about your views, doesn't mean I make audastic statements. What side of the track did you grow up on? I can say what I want to say and when I want to say it. Thats the beauty of living in America.You apparently dont understand that. I a normal person with an opinion. I just said that West brook can compete with these schools. You think that katy will beat West brook and thats fine. I dont think thats audastic or ludacris, its just your opinion. So from what I understand, you are the voice of Beaumont West Brook football. No other fans have the same views as me. You called me a fool for voicing my opinion. You might need to go and read the constitution of the United States @ Theodore Johns library on Fannet Rd. You said I need to chill?...You're hilarious .Im just insane aren't I? :D
When you have one bad apple in the bunch, it is assumed that all the other apples are bad, too. I'm not necessarily conservative, I just dont want to be the one eating the crow.....which is what you might be doing given all the boisterous statements you have made. I agree that our Bruins CAN compete with these schools, however, respect will be given when respect is earned. At this point, most of the posters on this board dont give us a second thought. From a historical stand point, as far as Katy is concerned, by Week 4 they are usually hitting on all cylinders. IF we were to play them earlier in the season, I think our chances of a win would increase. For the record, I am not the voice of West Brook football, although I am available for that position.:D I was simply making a suggestion to cool it with all the trash talk. I mean, what are you gonna say if we get blown out by Katy or NS. Sometimes it pays to be a little Humble.....Humble, get it!? BTW, Legend, I like your avatar. Where did you find it?
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 05:00 PM
When you have one bad apple in the bunch, it is assumed that all the other apples are bad, too. I'm not necessarily conservative, I just dont want to be the one eating the crow.....which is what you might be doing given all the boisterous statements you have made. I agree that our Bruins CAN compete with these schools, however, respect will be given when respect is earned. At this point, most of the posters on this board dont give us a second thought. From a historical stand point, as far as Katy is concerned, by Week 4 they are usually hitting on all cylinders. IF we were to play them earlier in the season, I think our chances of a win would increase. For the record, I am not the voice of West Brook football, although I am available for that position.:D I was simply making a suggestion to cool it with all the trash talk. I mean, what are you gonna say if we get blown out by Katy or NS. Sometimes it pays to be a little Humble.....Humble, get it!? BTW, Legend, I like your avatar. Where did you find it?
Hey if they blow us out thats cool. Its just game. The last time I cried about football was on the turf of the astrodome when we basically handed Alief Hastings the regional game in 1997. Other than that, I don't care what anyone says. This is a message board, im going to say what I feel, if it offends anybody, dont take it personal. Im a lover not a fighter......
Beaumont_Legend
08-07-2008, 05:03 PM
First off, i don't give a damn about rankings. So Humble not showing up in the beloved Dave's magazine is no surprise...its the same magazine that picked us to miss the playoffs and finish 5th or 6th last year...had Humble played the brook at Turner...it would of been a district championship instead of 2nd... The coaches poll won't put humble in the Top 20 either because we don't have the name recognition to go with success...plus i don't believe we deserve it just quite yet...not that the coaches poll even really matter anyhow. But as far as reasoning goes...This year is a year where the 10-25 could be just about anyone...The state across the board is extremely young , in fact after the top 9 you could put anyone up there that returns a good number of starters and had a successful season and their would be little to dispute. Fact of the matter is, most polls will go with the safe picks...the usual suspects. I commend the 5a staff for putting together a poll thats "different". Something where they put their names on the line, instead of gathering their poll data based on a Question sheet, Coaches poll, and AP poll.
Should Humble be ranked? Maybe not...Maybe they should. Only time will tell. here is one thing i know though...Our boys will knock the opponents teeth out to prove they deserve to win a game, FORGET THE POLLS....we are after a District title this year.
Name recognition. Are you serious? I know your'e from New Caney/Humble piney woods, but you could of made a better case than that. Mr Crow server!!
You should come check The Brook out vs Ike on Sept. 19 @ Thorne stadium. Then you can make an honest assesment of both teams.
ktCarl
08-07-2008, 07:03 PM
I thought the same ting for a while, but i can onnly think of two years really that we started slow and became a really good team later, that was 02' and 03'. Both teams were at the helm of coach johnston. Joseph i believe has not lost a predistrict game and only lost 1 district. I think it took him a while to win the title because when he took the job there was a lot of turn over in the coaching staff, he finally found his guys. Sure the offense will struggle early whos doesnt. But to say Katy starts slow is innacurate when they havent lost an early game since 03'. I know many teams that would love to start that slow.
Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes...
This was the main point I was trying to make in my post.
I wasn't meaning to say Katy ALWAYS starts slow. I was trying to make a comparison to 2003 with a reloaded team playing against a team that has Katy outnumbered in the athlete department.
And on the Joseph/Johnston note. Johnston would have beat Clear Lake in the R3 Final in '04 and maybe had a different outcome in the '05 State Game.
JMO. :cool:
82 5A State Champs
08-07-2008, 07:25 PM
Hey if they blow us out thats cool. Its just game. The last time I cried about football was on the turf of the astrodome when we basically handed Alief Hastings the regional game in 1997. Other than that, I don't care what anyone says. This is a message board, im going to say what I feel, if it offends anybody, dont take it personal. Im a lover not a fighter......
That loss was a hard pill to swallow....39-22 loss I think? I was on the sidelines for that game. Ambres did well, but Hastings shut him down, and we really didn't have a go to guy after that.
Fleeman93
08-07-2008, 07:28 PM
Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes...
This was the main point I was trying to make in my post.
I wasn't meaning to say Katy ALWAYS starts slow. I was trying to make a comparison to 2003 with a reloaded team playing against a team that has Katy outnumbered in the athlete department.
And on the Joseph/Johnston note. Johnston would have beat Clear Lake in the R3 Final in '04 and maybe had a different outcome in the '05 State Game.
JMO. :cool:
In my opinion, unless Coach Johnston could heal the injured then the outcome of the Clear Lake wouldn't have changed. Katy lost that game due to having so many key defensive players out that day. A healthy Dalton in the state game might have helped also.
cyfallsbooster2
08-07-2008, 08:37 PM
In my opinion, unless Coach Johnston could heal the injured then the outcome of the Clear Lake wouldn't have changed. Katy lost that game due to having so many key defensive players out that day. A healthy Dalton in the state game might have helped also.
Just excuses. That's why ktcarl didn't say it.
t00 playa
08-07-2008, 09:24 PM
When you have one bad apple in the bunch, it is assumed that all the other apples are bad, too. I'm not necessarily conservative, I just dont want to be the one eating the crow.....which is what you might be doing given all the boisterous statements you have made. I agree that our Bruins CAN compete with these schools, however, respect will be given when respect is earned. At this point, most of the posters on this board dont give us a second thought. From a historical stand point, as far as Katy is concerned, by Week 4 they are usually hitting on all cylinders. IF we were to play them earlier in the season, I think our chances of a win would increase. For the record, I am not the voice of West Brook football, although I am available for that position.:D I was simply making a suggestion to cool it with all the trash talk. I mean, what are you gonna say if we get blown out by Katy or NS. Sometimes it pays to be a little Humble.....Humble, get it!? BTW, Legend, I like your avatar. Where did you find it?
well said.... thats why people respect the bruins...because of their program and fans like yourself.... and i disagree with the not giving you guys a second thought....the bruins are always tough.... no matter what... yes we at NS get attention....and i think thats what is eating at this guy....but if you look at it... NS posters havent been chest thumping.... or dissrespecting anyone...we arent crying about respect... or anything like that... we have one long NS mustang thread that was started by a mustang....but thats it.... so i like i have said... i have always thought the bruins had a good program... i think coaching changes have set you guys back a little...but looks like things are back on track..... so good luck this season...cant wait to see you guys up close and personal at gpisd later this season....and dont worry about the one bad apple..... most of us posters who have been around here a while have seen apples like these come and go..... we can look past that and see brook for what you guys are.... and thats a team that will compete for the region....:eek:
Fleeman93
08-07-2008, 09:31 PM
Just excuses. That's why ktcarl didn't say it.
Are they excuses? I was just making a comment on what KTCarl said about Katy winning had Coach Johnston been there. One thing for sure is that there was no excuse for Falls' performance in the final against Cedar Hill (I told you to stop trying).
82 5A State Champs
08-07-2008, 10:10 PM
well said.... thats why people respect the bruins...because of their program and fans like yourself.... and i disagree with the not giving you guys a second thought....the bruins are always tough.... no matter what... yes we at NS get attention....and i think thats what is eating at this guy....but if you look at it... NS posters havent been chest thumping.... or dissrespecting anyone...we arent crying about respect... or anything like that... we have one long NS mustang thread that was started by a mustang....but thats it.... so i like i have said... i have always thought the bruins had a good program... i think coaching changes have set you guys back a little...but looks like things are back on track..... so good luck this season...cant wait to see you guys up close and personal at gpisd later this season....and dont worry about the one bad apple..... most of us posters who have been around here a while have seen apples like these come and go..... we can look past that and see brook for what you guys are.... and thats a team that will compete for the region....:eek:
Thanks, man! We are back on the right track. I look forward to seeing a great game at your house in November. I will most likely be for the district title. Either way, I expect a great, hard fought game from both teams. Good luck on your season. That preseason schedule ya'll have is a whopper! It will prepare you guys for a long playoff run.
NSStangs#1fan
08-08-2008, 12:59 AM
Yeah.That still doesn't make sense. GPISD wants to keep North Shore a football powerhouse..There is a need for a 3rd highscool. Why do you think North Shore keeps adding. A campus for 9-10th and then a campus for 11-12th,.etc..........And actually Katy has about 250 more Kids than West Brook. We would be much better if we could take 250 more kids from Ozen.Im sure there would be about 10 atheletes out of that bunch......All im saying is cut North Shore's enrollment and by 30% to 50% and lets see if you would be a region3 powerhouse........probably not. Numbers do count for a program like NS......Heck if you put Houston Furr in the valley they would be a top team......and you say that West brook is "not" questionable.......thats your opinion and your entitled to it...... :notworthy
U really think 250 kids makes a difference??? That statement kind of ruins any credibility u may have had!
ftballin11
08-08-2008, 12:30 PM
Why? There's a lot of inexperience on Katy and a lot of reloading to do. I think we have the edge in coaching but NS has the edge in athletes...
This was the main point I was trying to make in my post.
I wasn't meaning to say Katy ALWAYS starts slow. I was trying to make a comparison to 2003 with a reloaded team playing against a team that has Katy outnumbered in the athlete department.
And on the Joseph/Johnston note. Johnston would have beat Clear Lake in the R3 Final in '04 and maybe had a different outcome in the '05 State Game.
JMO. :cool:
The 03' team was as talented as 07' i truly believe that. But after losing Murphy the captain of a defense it took a long time to find a combination that matched. Half way through Triche stepped in and did a good job. Lufkin was a great team and could have done that to Northshore that year.
In 05' would Johnston lost to SV before state like he did in 02'. Joseph is the best defensive mind in the state. What did Johnston do. Did he call any plays?
I went through that program, Johnston brought the attitude and was a great motivator. He was great at bringing kids to there full potential. But as an X's and O's Joseph is the mastermind.
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