Dallas Area Has The Most Talent in Texas Just Lacks Good Coaches

[WTWALUMNI]

It's a fact that the dallas area has the most d1 recruits in the state and is the most talented area in texas. My theory about the dallas schools not being as good as the suburban schools is that the dallas area lacks good old fashion coaches that know there future starting rb when he's in 2nd grade. The dallas area also lacks loyal fans that go to every game and fans that play a major supporting role to the team. We just dont have the Fans and the families that thatve for football and that are brought up in football families

[kalanj]

you have the most talent because its the biggest area with the most people but every year we put out the best player in the state lil ol east texas

[d-train]

Single parent households! Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. Households in chaos without any discipline and order from fathers. Low pay and lack of feeders keeps coaches out of the city also.

[chhspantherfan]

Single parent households! Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. Households in chaos without any discipline and order from fathers. Low pay and lack of feeders keeps coaches out of the city also.

Hit the nail on the head. Welcome aboard.

[KLH75287]

Single parent households! Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter. Households in chaos without any discipline and order from fathers. Low pay and lack of feeders keeps coaches out of the city also.

That is certainly a contributing factor to some of the core issues behing DISD's struggles to land and keep quality coaches. The pay from what I hear is not far out of line, but the politics and lack of community support are key.

I don't blame a coach for not wanting to saddle that horse.

[GoOwls]

I'm glad I've gotten some supporters here....I've been preaching this on the board for years....

[onevision]

That is certainly a contributing factor to some of the core issues behing DISD's struggles to land and keep quality coaches. The pay from what I hear is not far out of line, but the politics and lack of community support are key.

I don't blame a coach for not wanting to saddle that horse.

The pay is good. The stipends for coaching is good. The lack of feeder schools and a system for sucess is what puts us in a bad spot. However in most of these places where there are sucessfull systems i.e plano slc katy ET, and the others is that we are in a large district. All those districts have 1,2,3, maybe 4 high schools. Look at plano for example, 3 high schools wit a total enrollment of 15,295. DISD has a total of 27,111 in 21 High schools. Our kids are spread out over a larger distance so a "System" is almost out of the question. Then we have the other issues. Our little leagues are not up to par and the coaches want to do there own thing. Our middle school coaches want to do there own thing. We dont have the proper promotion system like the burbs have. You work your way up through the ranks in the burbs. middle school coach, hs position coach, hs coordinator, then a head coaching job. DISD have two head coaches with no coordinator experience at all. the were middle school head coaches. Im not saying there not qualified but damn I know some coaches better suited for the job. The community support sucks. We dont have official booster clubs. We got packs of parents that sit in the stands and talk bad about the coach instead of gettin there kids to summer workouts. On time for saturday morning film sessions. The coaches in the inner city arent bad, WE GOT IT BAD.

[KLH75287]

The pay is good. The stipends for coaching is good. The lack of feeder schools and a system for sucess is what puts us in a bad spot. However in most of these places where there are sucessfull systems i.e plano slc katy ET, and the others is that we are in a large district. All those districts have 1,2,3, maybe 4 high schools. Look at plano for example, 3 high schools wit a total enrollment of 15,295. DISD has a total of 27,111 in 21 High schools. Our kids are spread out over a larger distance so a "System" is almost out of the question. Then we have the other issues. Our little leagues are not up to par and the coaches want to do there own thing. Our middle school coaches want to do there own thing. We dont have the proper promotion system like the burbs have. You work your way up through the ranks in the burbs. middle school coach, hs position coach, hs coordinator, then a head coaching job. DISD have two head coaches with no coordinator experience at all. the were middle school head coaches. Im not saying there not qualified but damn I know some coaches better suited for the job. The community support sucks. We dont have official booster clubs. We got packs of parents that sit in the stands and talk bad about the coach instead of gettin there kids to summer workouts. On time for saturday morning film sessions. The coaches in the inner city arent bad, WE GOT IT BAD.

There was a story on the news tonight about a DISD school that was caught up in a huge scandal over grade fixing for a key football player last year. Whistleblower gets fired (school looses a committed teacher), and the kids lost / forfieted their district championship. The principal and others responsible for trying to send this kid to college who couldn't read and hadn't attended required classes are all getting off scott free.

Like I said, who would want to jump into the political circus.

The kids are suffering, and the parents don't care. It takes more to succeed in life than a free lunch and football records.

[CFBFND2010]

Call me crazy, but a Coach who looks only to get a paycheck and not to aid the sport is not much of a Coach. :\

[onevision]

There was a story on the news tonight about a DISD school that was caught up in a huge scandal over grade fixing for a key football player last year. Whistleblower gets fired (school looses a committed teacher), and the kids lost / forfieted their district championship. The principal and others responsible for trying to send this kid to college who couldn't read and hadn't attended required classes are all getting off scott free.

Like I said, who would want to jump into the political circus.

The kids are suffering, and the parents don't care. It takes more to succeed in life than a free lunch and football records.

Im so damn dissapointed in my fellow coaches. I often ask myself if i look back on my coaching career. And ask myself if I produced quality people to society, how would i be looked at because i didnt take any shortcuts. If I do all I can to win the right way.

[HebronHawk]

That is certainly a contributing factor to some of the core issues behing DISD's struggles to land and keep quality coaches. The pay from what I hear is not far out of line, but the politics and lack of community support are key.

I don't blame a coach for not wanting to saddle that horse.

Of course, some of the DISD coaches get great support out of their principals. Witness Roosevelt HS.

[KLH75287]

Im so damn dissapointed in my fellow coaches. I often ask myself if i look back on my coaching career. And ask myself if I produced quality people to society, how would i be looked at because i didnt take any shortcuts. If I do all I can to win the right way.

Fortunately The Ultimate Judge is not a principal, school board member, football parent, or another coach. If you skip the shortcuts and do all you can do to build positive truths into the lives of those students you come in contact with and teach them the value of hard work and good decisions, your legacy will speak for itself.

"But whoever causes the downfall of one of these little ones who believe in Me—it would be better for him if a heavy millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea!

Matthew 18:6

[Vols4Ever]

It's 10 times harder for an inner city ISD team to win football titles in the new era of football.

Socio-economic and political forces are big time at play.

[grayowl60]

It's 10 times harder for an inner city ISD team to win football titles in the new era of football.

Socio-economic and political forces are big time at play.
Some of the large first ring "burbs" have the same issues. Success depends on how those issues are managed.

[d-train]

The pay is good. The stipends for coaching is good. The lack of feeder schools and a system for sucess is what puts us in a bad spot. However in most of these places where there are sucessfull systems i.e plano slc katy ET, and the others is that we are in a large district. All those districts have 1,2,3, maybe 4 high schools. Look at plano for example, 3 high schools wit a total enrollment of 15,295. DISD has a total of 27,111 in 21 High schools. Our kids are spread out over a larger distance so a "System" is almost out of the question. Then we have the other issues. Our little leagues are not up to par and the coaches want to do there own thing. Our middle school coaches want to do there own thing. We dont have the proper promotion system like the burbs have. You work your way up through the ranks in the burbs. middle school coach, hs position coach, hs coordinator, then a head coaching job. DISD have two head coaches with no coordinator experience at all. the were middle school head coaches. Im not saying there not qualified but damn I know some coaches better suited for the job. The community support sucks. We dont have official booster clubs. We got packs of parents that sit in the stands and talk bad about the coach instead of gettin there kids to summer workouts. On time for saturday morning film sessions. The coaches in the inner city arent bad, WE GOT IT BAD.
Don't put your kids in the hands of Pop Warner coaches. My sons play basketball, run track and play flag football until 7th grade. Middle schools coaches wanna win, and they are not gonna win trying to run the spread in the city. Much easier to run the ball and play defense, and that is what they do. This is why the HS, and Skyline has 5000 plus kids there, coaches that run the ball, mix in some option and play outstanding defense win most of the time in the urban districts. It all comes down to talent, and who has an all-star squad for that season. Austin LBJ's HC split after making the quarters to Desoto, and Jackson at Lancaster split from Austin Reagan after making the semis in 2001. Talent and defense wins it for urban teams, passing won't get it done.

[WTWALUMNI]

you have the most talent because its the biggest area with the most people but every year we put out the best player in the state lil ol east texas


actually both houston and austin are bigger areas

[dragonpants]

It's a fact that the dallas area has the most d1 recruits in the state and is the most talented area in texas. My theory about the dallas schools not being as good as the suburban schools is that the dallas area lacks good old fashion coaches that know there future starting rb when he's in 2nd grade. The dallas area also lacks loyal fans that go to every game and fans that play a major supporting role to the team. We just dont have the Fans and the families that thatve for football and that are brought up in football families

Agreed, they are not going to draw the best coaches when openings exist.

[svrangerfan]

Beyond Skyline , Carter & a couple of others the coaches are not as experienced and the schools seem to change coaches every couple of years. The pay is not good compared to the Burbs. I am pretty sure the DISD told Samples he was going to Skyline since that is their bellcow. They have been trying for years to get a good coach in there and now they have one. They hired an assistant from Duncanville at Bryan Adams and he will be gone as soon as he proves to someone he can coach. The DISD is not much more than a stepping stone to a better opportunity but you have to start somewhere.