Judson vs Reagan

[Slim-Rob]

Judson by 21. Thats what needs to happen for Judson to make the playoffs and I think the boys will get it done.

[dragons08]

21? thatd be asking a lot

[Slim-Rob]

21? thatd be asking a lot

How's that asking a lot? Thats 3 touchdowns. Judson has averaged 24 points a game this season. Our defense is capable of holding a team to 0 points.

[Reaganrattler07]

How's that asking a lot? Thats 3 touchdowns. Judson has averaged 24 points a game this season. Our defense is capable of holding a team to 0 points.

Just cause you all did it to Mac doesn't mean you all will do it to us. And do you think your offense can score 21? Without getting turnovers in Reagan territory?

[Slim-Rob]

Just cause you all did it to Mac doesn't mean you all will do it to us. And do you think your offense can score 21? Without getting turnovers in Reagan territory?

I didn't even bring up the MacArthur game. And yes, our offense can score 21 points. There have been some key injuries to this offense throughout the season. They have picked it up a lot and most of the injured players are back. The team has figured out its new offense and they are not the same team that go shutout by churchill.

[Reaganrattler07]

I didn't even bring up the MacArthur game. And yes, our offense can score 21 points. There have been some key injuries to this offense throughout the season. They have picked it up a lot and most of the injured players are back. The team has figured out its new offense and they are not the same team that go shutout by churchill.

We'll see how the game unfolds. Only a day left really....

[Slim-Rob]

We'll see how the game unfolds. Only a day left really....

I can't wait until that game. Well, I'm going to bed now so I'll catch you guys later.

[bullrock]

TRN,
What have you seen that would confirm your opinion about the Rocket offense? They beat MAc but Mac had their chances and blew them. I agree, it took offense to score, but they really haven't come that far in my opinion. If they can outscore the Snake by 40 points, I might agree with you. I will admit they are picking up the new offense.
Let me ask a question. If you are willing to sacrifice a season while installing a new offense, why would you not start a large number of underclassmen who could take what they learned this season into the next? I haven't witnessed a lot of that going on. The fact that the first string is usually out there until the end of the game lends some sort of logic to the fact that next year isn't even being considerd this year. Any thoughts?

[Slim-Rob]

TRN,
What have you seen that would confirm your opinion about the Rocket offense? They beat MAc but Mac had their chances and blew them. I agree, it took offense to score, but they really haven't come that far in my opinion. If they can outscore the Snake by 40 points, I might agree with you. I will admit they are picking up the new offense.
Let me ask a question. If you are willing to sacrifice a season while installing a new offense, why would you not start a large number of underclassmen who could take what they learned this season into the next? I haven't witnessed a lot of that going on. The fact that the first string is usually out there until the end of the game lends some sort of logic to the fact that next year isn't even being considerd this year. Any thoughts?

Why would you change an offense when 8 of 11 offensive starters are seniors? I still don't understand this. When you have been running the same offense in 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th grade and all of a sudden you are running different offense senior year, its hard to adjust. Also, its like everybody says: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. But Coach Mangold has his own offensive scheme and that is what we are running now that he is the offensive coordinator. I like the new playbook but i think we should have started it in the freshman team and moved it up from there.

[TxLawDawg]

TRN,
What have you seen that would confirm your opinion about the Rocket offense? They beat MAc but Mac had their chances and blew them. I agree, it took offense to score, but they really haven't come that far in my opinion. If they can outscore the Snake by 40 points, I might agree with you. I will admit they are picking up the new offense.
Let me ask a question. If you are willing to sacrifice a season while installing a new offense, why would you not start a large number of underclassmen who could take what they learned this season into the next? I haven't witnessed a lot of that going on. The fact that the first string is usually out there until the end of the game lends some sort of logic to the fact that next year isn't even being considerd this year. Any thoughts?

I understand your logic, but I don't think that necessarily translates to the field. Even if you were going to sacrifice a season to install an new offense, and even if your team was out of playoff contention (neither of which are true for CJ this year), I would hate for a coach to take the last HS football game away from his seniors just to try to get some extra practice in for his underclassmen for the next year. That's a terrible thing to do, especially since most of these boys will never play football again but they will remember thier HS football days for the rest of their lives.

[jrdaniel]

Bull, most of those underclassman are getting work at the JV and freshman levels I assume. They will also have ample time to practice during that great "non-coached" summer event 7 on 7. I predicted the demise of football as you and I know it a few years back when they made football basically a club sport by allowing 7 on 7 in Texas. Now look, one of the most run oriented - and prolific - of teams in the state has ditched the smash mouth and installed a spread.

I know it is the future of football, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

[bullrock]

Lawman, I don't know if you've seen Judson play this year. I know the coaches are trying thier best and some of the boys are too, but what I've witnessed would be nothing to brag to my grandchildren about. If you could show them a ring...now that would be something to talk about and they would never have to know you never started.

[TxLawDawg]

Bullrock, you're right, I haven't seen Judson play this year. My only thought is that it's not fair to the seniors to take thier last high school football game away from them so that you can let the younger kids get a little extra experience for the next year. I don't know if you played HS football or not (I assume you did since you're on this website), but those are memories that you have for the rest of your life, whether you had a great season or not. Just the opportunity to play under those Friday night lights is something to remember and cherish. Judson still has a chance to make the playoffs, and although they are having a down year for their program, they aren't a horrible team. I just can't see benching your seniors on possibly their last football game of their life so that you can get some more experience in your underclassmen.

[bullrock]

I didn't say bench them for thier last game. I would have started more underclassmen for obvious reasons and perhaps the seniors would have gotten a lot of mop-up duty? Just suiting up and being on the sidelines is an honor at any school. But to be suited up, playing for Judson in 2005 is not going to be something a lot of us will reminisce about.
I'll give a living proven example at the same school (Judson). After Saunders was forced to retire ending in the '79/'80 season a coach named Frank Arnold came to Judson. I believe the Rockets lost in the first round of the palyoffs Saunders last year so they had some decent kids playing and I'm assuming some of them were undercalssmen. Arnolds first year ended with a 6-4 season with many soph and juniors on the team. In 82' the team came within 15 points of making it to the finals. The next year they hit paydirt and the rest is history! The ball got on a roll and has been rolling pretty good every since. That is my only point.

[jrdaniel]

It might not be that simple. These are 15-17 year olds that you are trying to teach a new system. Would it be better for their confidence going against JV teams and getting reps in practice or playing against superior defenses in varsity that are taking advantage of the mistakes underclassmen will make. I guess an argument could be made for both sides.

[DiamondJ2]

jrdaniel, you are correct about the 7 on 7. here's another thing to shake the traditionalist boots. Look for more and more club teams and players playing club ball instead of high school ball. Probably not in football because of the cost factor in guaranting safe equipment, but in all of the other sports it's coming. High School age players will be compensated in some fashion to play club ball. Yes, they will have to pay out the nose as in basketball, baseball, and volleyball does now, but the rewards may be worth it. All you have to do is look at such schools as Evangel, St. Ignatius out of Cleveland OH, Dematha, etc. I hope it doesn't occur while I'm still on that level, but it's coming and sooner than most people want to ackowledge.

[Go Buffs]

I haven't seen Judson this year(or Reagan for that matter), so I'm just going by what Judsonites post here plus Judsonite friends of mine that see them every week.

I picked: Judson wins by less than 21, because of the Judson O struggles and Reagan keeping it close. :confused: I figure the Rocket Pride and homefield gets balanced by Reagan's motivation and focus in making the playoffs for the first time in school history.