View Full Version : disd shenanigans.
dragonsdaddy
08-02-2008, 12:58 PM
it was announced by wfaa that dallas roosevelt will have to forfeit 3 games and their district championship from last year due to grade irregularities(insert a gasp of shock). anyone from the metromess knows what a cesspool disd has become, from the top down. this is the district chosen by the feds to rebuild the wilmer-hutchins failed isd. sounds like the wolves may be guarding the hen house, again. this is more proof that bloated bureaucracies are going to be the ruin of this country, or at least are throwing banana peels down as fast as they can.
www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/football/stories/080208dnsporoosevelt.385f81b.html
Favpack
08-02-2008, 03:06 PM
DISD's Office of Professional Responsibility
Does this really need any further explanation. Kind of like the General Accounting Office.
Seriously - it would seem the no. 1 requirement to be a higher up at DISD is to be able to lie with a smile.
dragonsdaddy
08-02-2008, 03:18 PM
Does this really need any further explanation. Kind of like the General Accounting Office.
Seriously - it would seem the no. 1 requirement to be a higher up at DISD is to be able to lie with a smile.
lie, cheat, and steal, too. and be brazen enough to expect a big severance package after you get fired for same.
TulsaHale74
08-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Does this really need any further explanation. Kind of like the General Accounting Office.
Seriously - it would seem the no. 1 requirement to be a higher up at DISD is to be able to lie with a smile.
There's at least higher up at DISD who won't lie: Dr. Robin Ryan, an Assistant Superintendent.
Ryan worked in the Hurst-Euless-Bedford administration, then was a Principal at Carroll Junior High School and Colleyville Heritage High School.
Ryan graduated from Texas A&M, earned his Doctorate from UNT, and has been a long time youth Sunday School teacher at First Methodist Grapevine.
Dr. Ryan's son is a junior QB and baseball player at Grapevine.
I don't think anyone is going to work miracles in DISD, but a few good men can make a difference.
It's sad any district needs an Office of Professional Responsibility but it's a large staff and if you look at their credentials in law enforcement and auditing it appears the District is serious about stopping the fraud and getting rid of thieves and cheaters. I'll bet if we requested information using the FOI law, we would see lots of actions that don't make the news.
dragonsdaddy
08-02-2008, 03:58 PM
There's at least higher up at DISD who won't lie: Dr. Robin Ryan, an Assistant Superintendent.
Ryan worked in the Hurst-Euless-Bedford administration, then was a Principal at Carroll Junior High School and Colleyville Heritage High School.
Ryan graduated from Texas A&M, earned his Doctorate from UNT, and has been a long time youth Sunday School teacher at First Methodist Grapevine.
Dr. Ryan's son is a junior QB and baseball player at Grapevine.
I don't think anyone is going to work miracles in DISD, but a few good men can make a difference.
It's sad any district needs an Office of Professional Responsibility but it's a large staff and if you look at their credentials in law enforcement and auditing it appears the District is serious about stopping the fraud and getting rid of thieves and cheaters. I'll bet if we requested information using the FOI law, we would see lots of actions that don't make the news.
he is a good man, so i'll wager he won't last 5 years at that he!!hole. the energy-sapping that must go on there is astronomical.
reed35
08-02-2008, 04:03 PM
lie, cheat, and steal, too. and be brazen enough to expect a big severance package after you get fired for same.
Sounds like the kindergarten NFL.
Plano West Wolf
08-02-2008, 04:04 PM
What a mess. It seems common that crap like this happens in DISD. People spending district credit cards, Bryan Adam's AD beating his wife with a concrete block, a coach getting shot at the start of last season, SOC's basketball forfeits and now this. Heck even Carter had to forfeit a title. Something needs to be done to clean up the mess that is DISD right now.
tiger94
08-02-2008, 05:32 PM
I believe the unethical decision making that takes place within in the DISD starts at the top and trickles down. The superintendent has had enough time to make sweeping changes but the same stuff is on going. fire every one within the leadership of the district and start over from top to bottom. Well yes some good people will be lost but they have been associated with a corrupt system. Then the expectations can be raised and followed and the those that don't follow will be shown the door. Ones who break the law will be punished to the full extent. This isn't any better than what mesquite let the head coach do resign quietly and not press charges. It was the mesquite police that pressed the issue.
GoOwls
08-02-2008, 07:03 PM
I believe the unethical decision making that takes place within in the DISD starts at the top and trickles down. The superintendent has had enough time to make sweeping changes but the same stuff is on going. fire every one within the leadership of the district and start over from top to bottom. Well yes some good people will be lost but they have been associated with a corrupt system. Then the expectations can be raised and followed and the those that don't follow will be shown the door. Ones who break the law will be punished to the full extent. This isn't any better than what mesquite let the head coach do resign quietly and not press charges. It was the mesquite police that pressed the issue.
There's a ton of difference......Mesquite is an isolated incident in an otherwise respected ISD.
Dalllas ISD's stuff is a way of life......
GoOwls
08-02-2008, 07:20 PM
What a mess. It seems common that crap like this happens in DISD. People spending district credit cards, Bryan Adam's AD beating his wife with a concrete block, a coach getting shot at the start of last season, SOC's basketball forfeits and now this. Heck even Carter had to forfeit a title. Something needs to be done to clean up the mess that is DISD right now.
Why do I have to always be the controversial one who has to tell it like it is.....:rolleyes:
OK, here goes....
The DISD will never get fixed......THE END.
The DISD is just like the Dallas City Council and the Dallas County Comissioners Court:
It has been so watered down by the feds involvement that the districts that vote for the board members end up being like little fiefdoms where the bidding of the people in that district will not rest until their wants are met by administrators...these districts have becomes racially set up districts that scream discrimination if they don't get what they want.....always at the expense of the other racially set up districts....therby always creating a sense of discrimination, depending on which district/s get what they want...then the battles resume and the fighting goes on.....
Then, in the midst of anarchy, a few people always think that their actions will not be detected with so many people fighting around them...hence the graft and corruption at the top that gets constantly exposed....and will continue to be....for the forseable future.
dragonsdaddy
08-02-2008, 07:30 PM
the disd symbolizes at the local level what is worst about our bureaucratic form of government. take what is evidently stupendously expensive, wasteful, and criminal graft and multiply it by a thousand and you'll find the usda, the fda, the cdc, etal. it will only be fixed by following all the chained lawyers anchored to the sea floor with all bureaucrats.
GoOwls
08-02-2008, 08:55 PM
the disd symbolizes at the local level what is worst about our bureaucratic form of government. take what is evidently stupendously expensive, wasteful, and criminal graft and multiply it by a thousand and you'll find the usda, the fda, the cdc, etal. it will only be fixed by following all the chained lawyers anchored to the sea floor with all bureaucrats.
A true "bottom-feeders" extravaganza.....;)
HebronHawk
08-02-2008, 09:59 PM
I really don't care if Dallas County, the DISD, DART and the Dallas City Council fight endlessly among themselves to take whatever graft and corruption they can out of the public purse.
I am a voter of none of those political organs.
Unfortunately they are running out of money to take.
Tollroads in other counties and other REGIONAL political organizations are being discussed which of course would be dominated by the aforementioned Dallas people and funding would flow from the suburbs into their coffers.
If they want to foul their own nest, fine. But I don't think they have a right to tie us up regionally.
The Dallas County Sheriff and the Dallas County Judge are bad jokes for example.
GoOwls
08-03-2008, 03:28 PM
I really don't care if Dallas County, the DISD, DART and the Dallas City Council fight endlessly among themselves to take whatever graft and corruption they can out of the public purse.
I am a voter of none of those political organs.
Unfortunately they are running out of money to take.
Tollroads in other counties and other REGIONAL political organizations are being discussed which of course would be dominated by the aforementioned Dallas people and funding would flow from the suburbs into their coffers.
If they want to foul their own nest, fine. But I don't think they have a right to tie us up regionally.
The Dallas County Sheriff and the Dallas County Judge are bad jokes for example.
A metropolitan area is like a wagon wheel.....there is a hub, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and the outward bound highways leading to the burbs are the spokes laeding to the wheel. If there is a problem with the hub, the spokes suffer too.
It doesn't matter if you moved to Hebron, Weatherford, Melissa, or Royce City to get away from Dallas.....you're just as effected by it when things go wrong...one way or another.
DrEdward
08-03-2008, 05:37 PM
A metropolitan area is like a wagon wheel.....there is a hub, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and the outward bound highways leading to the burbs are the spokes laeding to the wheel. If there is a problem with the hub, the spokes suffer too.
It doesn't matter if you moved to Hebron, Weatherford, Melissa, or Royce City to get away from Dallas.....you're just as effected by it when things go wrong...one way or another.
It's not simply wagon wheel effect; more of a spider web. While the DISD is no longer a recipient of Chapter 41 funds, think of the millions of dollars that DISD received from the handful of districts around the state that were literally confiscated and wasted by that bunch over the years. If the DISD voters care to tolerate such failures, both financially and most decisively educationally, on an ongoing basis, that was their business. But when the system made many of the rest of us pay for such, that makes it our business as well.
HebronHawk
08-03-2008, 06:45 PM
It's not simply wagon wheel effect; more of a spider web. While the DISD is no longer a recipient of Chapter 41 funds, think of the millions of dollars that DISD received from the handful of districts around the state that were literally confiscated and wasted by that bunch over the years. If the DISD voters care to tolerate such failures, both financially and most decisively educationally, on an ongoing basis, that was their business. But when the system made many of the rest of us pay for such, that makes it our business as well.
We should be able to vote on the politicians down in Dallas. We would get a better crowd if they were held to suburban standards.
NHB06
08-03-2008, 06:45 PM
A metropolitan area is like a wagon wheel.....there is a hub, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and the outward bound highways leading to the burbs are the spokes laeding to the wheel. If there is a problem with the hub, the spokes suffer too.
It doesn't matter if you moved to Hebron, Weatherford, Melissa, or Royce City to get away from Dallas.....you're just as effected by it when things go wrong...one way or another.
To my knowledge, there is currently not a city named Hebron. I may be wrong, but Hebron was absorbed by several cities including Plano, Carrollton, and Lewisville.
dragonsdaddy
08-03-2008, 07:30 PM
To my knowledge, there is currently not a city named Hebron. I may be wrong, but Hebron was absorbed by several cities including Plano, Carrollton, and Lewisville.
hebron, back in the day was represented by the old church where 544 turned north before continuing west, and a few well separated houses. you mean all that has changed, too?
CoveMom
08-03-2008, 07:36 PM
To my knowledge, there is currently not a city named Hebron. I may be wrong, but Hebron was absorbed by several cities including Plano, Carrollton, and Lewisville.
I guess it all depends on which one you are interested in...
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=279345
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/HH/hrh84.html
EagleDude73
08-03-2008, 07:54 PM
We should be able to vote on the politicians down in Dallas. We would get a better crowd if they were held to suburban standards.
Ditto! We agreed to pay City of Houston sales tax, just to not get annexed by them. This was a thirty year agreement.
NHB06
08-03-2008, 09:13 PM
hebron, back in the day was represented by the old church where 544 turned north before continuing west, and a few well separated houses. you mean all that has changed, too?
I believe you are referring to Murphy, which was represented by an old church on FM 544 and an old gas station. The church was taken away piece by piece a few months ago. The location of the old gas station is being replaced by a mega shopping center with a Lowe's, 24 hour fitness, Sprouts, new restaurants, and movie theater. The city of Murphy still exists just east of Plano and west of Wylie.
HebronHawk
08-04-2008, 06:48 AM
To my knowledge, there is currently not a city named Hebron. I may be wrong, but Hebron was absorbed by several cities including Plano, Carrollton, and Lewisville.
The town of Hebron still exists although it continues to shrink. There is a Mayor and a Town Council that meets from time to time at the Mayor's house.
The Hebron Baptist Church is still where it always was at the corner of Charles Road and Hebron Parkway (544).
The Plano people may use it as a landmark when they try to find the turn to Hawk Stadium in Week 2 (at Charles Road).
HebronHawk
08-04-2008, 06:50 AM
Ditto! We agreed to pay City of Houston sales tax, just to not get annexed by them. This was a thirty year agreement.
Seems like extortion.
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