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TxHotboy#1
11-01-2005, 09:37 PM
Allen VS Cedar Hill (Any Opinions on how this is gonna turn out during the playoffs?)

AllenEagle06
11-01-2005, 10:35 PM
I look forward to playing in Texas Stadium. The last time Allen and Cedar Hill played was in 1980 when they were both 3A teams. I found out today though that this game will be on a Thursday :mad:. There is nothing I hate more than Thursday games.

allendad
11-02-2005, 08:29 AM
Woooow!

What was that I just heard . . . . . .

Was that the mighty EAGLE machine starting
to crank up for the playoffs?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

Go Charles! Run like crazzzzzy!

Allendad

dragonfly
11-02-2005, 08:33 AM
Allen by 2 touchdowns!

reed35
11-02-2005, 08:38 AM
I found out today though that this game will be on a Thursday :mad:. There is nothing I hate more than Thursday games.[/QUOTE]


where do you find info on when games will be played?

gutbuster
11-02-2005, 10:15 AM
I think it will be a lot closer than most people think!

panther96
11-02-2005, 10:27 AM
It will be a lot closer than most people thank. I feel like Cedar Hill by 2 TD, not Allen by 2. Jared Norton is very explosive along with the rest of the offense. Our Defense is flowing to the ball and are tackling hard. Cedar Hill will make a run in the playoffs if everyone dont watch out. We will see you on the sidelines Thursday.

AllenEagle06
11-02-2005, 12:37 PM
where do you find info on when games will be played?
I don't find them I just hear about it in school mainly. This happened last year too and I think it's the only 5A game on Thursday.

Vols4Ever
11-02-2005, 12:43 PM
I find it interesting many people are writing Cedar Hill off.

Granted -- 7-5A was weak this year. But they still had to knock off a good Arlington and Desoto squad to get there. And they were the ones who put the death nail to Lamar's playoff hopes too, at Cravens Field.

Their offense is one of the most productive offenses in the district. And I hear that Allen has had a tough time defending the run this year.

I would not count my chickens,, uh--- Eagles, just yet.

Cedar Hill 33 Allen 23

AllenEagle06
11-02-2005, 03:00 PM
I find it interesting many people are writing Cedar Hill off.

Granted -- 7-5A was weak this year. But they still had to knock off a good Arlington and Desoto squad to get there. And they were the ones who put the death nail to Lamar's playoff hopes too, at Cravens Field.

Their offense is one of the most productive offenses in the district. And I hear that Allen has had a tough time defending the run this year.

I would not count my chickens,, uh--- Eagles, just yet.

Cedar Hill 33 Allen 23
I don't see that many people writing Cedar Hill off. Maybe Allen has been a little weak defending the running game but we have plenty of time before the playoffs start still. I'm not sure how good Cedar Hill is with defending the run but I know they'll have a hard time come Nov. 10. I'm not gonna predict a score yet until after this weeks games.

22quickpitch
11-03-2005, 09:47 PM
This is a good matchup with lots of talent on both sides of the ball. Cedar Hill has speed and size. Allen has savvy, patience and skill, having seen both teams this year already. If the game goes like Cedar Hill's season opener agains't Lake Highlands --- get out your six man football playbook because speed is what you need. For Allen, mistake free football will get them to the area round which is their strong suite. The Longhorns have cleaned up their early season penalty problems and the Eagles need to be healthy and rested at defensive back and QB. Injuries agains't Plano East could spell the difference in the early week Bi-District match with one fewer day to prepare. Truly, Thursday is good because it is one fewer day for distractions and newspaper hype... although everyone in Texas will pick up the Friday paper to see the Allen v. Cedar Hill score. Not many secrets here. It may come down to the kicking game and the unsung heroes on coverage teams to play field position or at least give yourself the best advantage to make a play which might result in a defensive touchdown. Cedar Hill seems to be really good at 80+ yard drives when needed for clock management or momentum. The biggest environmental challenge for Cedar Hill will be the high crowned center of Texas Stadium and their ability to adjust passing routes and cuts while running outside and "downhill". Both teams need to break in new shoes during week 10 to be ready for the "big house". I'm looking forward to this one.

businesstron
11-03-2005, 10:44 PM
This game being on thursday might spoil my trip to Dallas next week(I wish it would of been on Saturday) but it could be decent. CHS does have some athletes on the offensive side Norten and that sophmore receiver look good. It should be an interesting game.

PESHfan
11-05-2005, 11:20 PM
Allen VS Cedar Hill (Any Opinions on how this is gonna turn out during the playoffs?)


PESH just played them last night. Both teams had pretty good defense, but not much in the offense department. The one lucky score Allen got, was as a result of their defense intercepting the ball and running it back to their 13 yard line for any easy TD. Other than that it was a real snoozer of a game. A FG for each team. Whoopie.

Bring your earplugs though. The Monster band will play EXTREMELY LOUD whenever you have the ball. You won't be able to hear yourself think.

For some reason, their Band Director doesn't think the football team can win without him striking up the band every time the opponent has the ball. They are not there to entertain you. They are there to try to intimidate the opponent's football team. Be prepared to have your ear-drums burst!

alnegle07
11-06-2005, 07:27 PM
I find it interesting many people are writing Cedar Hill off.

Granted -- 7-5A was weak this year. But they still had to knock off a good Arlington and Desoto squad to get there. And they were the ones who put the death nail to Lamar's playoff hopes too, at Cravens Field.

Their offense is one of the most productive offenses in the district. And I hear that Allen has had a tough time defending the run this year.

I would not count my chickens,, uh--- Eagles, just yet.

Cedar Hill 33 Allen 23

well my friend you heard wrong and the last time i looked we were on the top defenses area board and ceder hill was no where to be found and the offenses are very equaly talented, the eagles do have a stud running back and a huge offensive line and can pound the crud out of any one with its running attack,and allens defense is very good against the run , some of the 2 best runing backs in the area #21 from irving mac and #5 justin jordan from plano and last time i checked we pretty much kept them out of the game soo yah i pick allen 35
ceder hill 21

alnegle07
11-06-2005, 07:30 PM
PESH just played them last night. Both teams had pretty good defense, but not much in the offense department. The one lucky score Allen got, was as a result of their defense intercepting the ball and running it back to their 13 yard line for any easy TD. Other than that it was a real snoozer of a game. A FG for each team. Whoopie.

Bring your earplugs though. The Monster band will play EXTREMELY LOUD whenever you have the ball. You won't be able to hear yourself think.

For some reason, their Band Director doesn't think the football team can win without him striking up the band every time the opponent has the ball. They are not there to entertain you. They are there to try to intimidate the opponent's football team. Be prepared to have your ear-drums burst!

dont be mad b/c allen totally shut yall down with its fast and hard hitting defense.

alnegle07
11-06-2005, 07:34 PM
This is a good matchup with lots of talent on both sides of the ball. Cedar Hill has speed and size. Allen has savvy, patience and skill, having seen both teams this year already. If the game goes like Cedar Hill's season opener agains't Lake Highlands --- get out your six man football playbook because speed is what you need. For Allen, mistake free football will get them to the area round which is their strong suite. The Longhorns have cleaned up their early season penalty problems and the Eagles need to be healthy and rested at defensive back and QB. Injuries agains't Plano East could spell the difference in the early week Bi-District match with one fewer day to prepare. Truly, Thursday is good because it is one fewer day for distractions and newspaper hype... although everyone in Texas will pick up the Friday paper to see the Allen v. Cedar Hill score. Not many secrets here. It may come down to the kicking game and the unsung heroes on coverage teams to play field position or at least give yourself the best advantage to make a play which might result in a defensive touchdown. Cedar Hill seems to be really good at 80+ yard drives when needed for clock management or momentum. The biggest environmental challenge for Cedar Hill will be the high crowned center of Texas Stadium and their ability to adjust passing routes and cuts while running outside and "downhill". Both teams need to break in new shoes during week 10 to be ready for the "big house". I'm looking forward to this one.

allen is fine no injuries to the dbs and nathan dick is expected to play

reed35
11-06-2005, 07:35 PM
Plano scored before their band raised their instruments, so they sat back down. Did not hear much from them that night. Their director doesn't uderstand it hurts their defense changing as well.

RidgePride
11-06-2005, 07:43 PM
I find it interesting many people are writing Cedar Hill off.

Granted -- 7-5A was weak this year. But they still had to knock off a good Arlington and Desoto squad to get there. And they were the ones who put the death nail to Lamar's playoff hopes too, at Cravens Field.

Their offense is one of the most productive offenses in the district. And I hear that Allen has had a tough time defending the run this year.

I would not count my chickens,, uh--- Eagles, just yet.

Cedar Hill 33 Allen 23
That 7-5a district is horrible this year.

Allen wins it

rancher52
11-06-2005, 07:46 PM
Give 7-5A was down (way down this year) and looking at how the top teams did in non conf play, tells me this will be a mismatch. Allen looks much stronger to me. CH lost to Colleyville Heritage (a 5-5a non playoff team) and Rowlett. Arlington lost to Grapevine (another 5-5a non playoff team). CH did play Rowlett close and that is a plus. I just think the competition that Allen played in their district and their defense will make this a 2+ score win for them.

panther96
11-06-2005, 07:57 PM
Allen has not seen speed like Cedar Hill has all year. They have really gotten a lot stronger since the Rowlett game. Allen loses 45 to 7 i think, so they might have held their running back, but someone put it on them. Flower Mound Marcus almost beat Allen, cause they took it to them. I feel Allen is more sound and dont make mistakes, but Cedar Hill has more athletics than Allen. In the end Cedar Hill by 2 +, and go on to play another week.

AllenEagle06
11-06-2005, 08:58 PM
Allen has not seen speed like Cedar Hill has all year. They have really gotten a lot stronger since the Rowlett game. Allen loses 45 to 7 i think, so they might have held their running back, but someone put it on them. Flower Mound Marcus almost beat Allen, cause they took it to them. I feel Allen is more sound and dont make mistakes, but Cedar Hill has more athletics than Allen. In the end Cedar Hill by 2 +, and go on to play another week.
FM Marcus has a good offense and it took nearly all of the 2nd half for them to catch up. Allen's defense has much improved since the beginning of the season, though. Jeremy Griggs is Allen's main stopper and he'll get to Cedar Hill's QB if their O line isn't careful. And if it's true that Nathan Dick is expected to play then Pickup will go back to his position as WR and Allen's passing game will "pickup" from there.

PESHfan
11-06-2005, 11:25 PM
dont be mad b/c allen totally shut yall down with its fast and hard hitting defense.


Shut 'em down? Surely you jest! With a final score of 10-3, it was hardly an impressive game for either team.

It was a snoozer of a game, but the band wouldn't let anyone sleep.

AllenEagle06
11-06-2005, 11:31 PM
That's what happens at defensive games: a low score and a little boredom. I enjoyed being in Kimbrough Stadium once again though, it's my favorite stadium.

Arazorback
11-07-2005, 01:51 AM
Allen has not seen speed like Cedar Hill has all year. They have really gotten a lot stronger since the Rowlett game. Allen loses 45 to 7 i think, so they might have held their running back, but someone put it on them. Flower Mound Marcus almost beat Allen, cause they took it to them. I feel Allen is more sound and dont make mistakes, but Cedar Hill has more athletics than Allen. In the end Cedar Hill by 2 +, and go on to play another week.

Maybe you weren't aware that FMM DID beat Ceder Hill.....

panther96
11-07-2005, 01:01 PM
FMM didnt beat Cedar Hill. We didnt play FMM.

toonman
11-07-2005, 01:43 PM
Allen wins 28 -21. In the final minute of the game, the game is tied, Cedar Hill has first and goal at the Allen one yard line. The huge Allen Band cranks up the volume. The Cedar Hill play call is not heard by the running back and the ball is intercepted by an Allen player, who runs 99 yards for the game wining touchdown.

alnegle07
11-07-2005, 08:21 PM
Shut 'em down? Surely you jest! With a final score of 10-3, it was hardly an impressive game for either team.

It was a snoozer of a game, but the band wouldn't let anyone sleep.

it wasnt a snoozer if you like defense my friend there is more then just one aspect of the game allen was almost perfect on defense and special teams!

alnegle07
11-07-2005, 08:25 PM
FMM didnt beat Cedar Hill. We didnt play FMM.

yes but ceder hill hasnt played anyone physical like allen since rowllet and as i remeber ceder hill lost that game to. so i think allen will be extremley pump for this game and do just like they did against plano west which was to beat the crap out of them physicaly. ive watched some and i dnt think ceder hill likes to be hit hard like by jeremy griggs or and of the fast flyin hard hittin defense of allen.

allen wins 35 - 21

alnegle07
11-07-2005, 08:39 PM
im also kinda sick of all the "allen hasnt faced speed like this," 8 5a is one of the toughest districts in the state , not to mension one of the most PHYSICAl. speed doesnt matter when you read your keys and hit hard, but dont forget allens defense is pretty fast too. jeremy griggs and clayton stewert and bradly davison are some examples and the d line is very quick and quarterback hungry. also i dnt remember hering anything about ceder hills d any were and i think since nathans back and everything the ceder hill d will have to step it up alot to stop allens offensive attack.

allendad
11-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Boy, it's interesting to hear all of the predictions and smack about the game.

I wasn't able to go to the last few games.

I was at Kimbrough Stadium last Friday.

Allen's 'O' moved the ball. They seemed to be the ones stopping themselves.
The play calling was extremely suspect. The 'D' was good though. the last couple of years the 'D' has been a joke at times. This year I love the way the corners play. This is the firat time in years that the corners play the way I love to see it played.

PESH only moved the ball on a couple of busted plays. Their QB(#11) was the best part of the attack. He ran well when everyone was covered. Otherwise, PESH didn't do piddley.

It looked to me like both teams were just waiting for the playoff games.

I sure hope the Allen 'O' can put together a better plan.

This team has been sooooooo much better than I thought they would be.

Fir those that think that 8-5A isn't physical . . . . . . Watch the hits baby because they'll be puttin' some smack on people Thursday night.

I heard tht Charles O. has a huge thigh bruise and won't be playing. ANy truth to that alnegle7??????

Don't keep secrets now!

My best friend that I played with at USC has always wanted to see a Texas 5A football game. He's bring his son in town tomorrow to go see the A-Town Express with me on Thursday.

I do not know anything about Cedar Hill. I'm excited for the Allen kids this year.

Go Eagles!

Allendad

alnegle07
11-08-2005, 06:27 PM
I heard tht Charles O. has a huge thigh bruise and won't be playing. ANy truth to that alnegle7??????

Don't keep secrets now!

My best friend that I played with at USC has always wanted to see a Texas 5A football game. He's bring his son in town tomorrow to go see the A-Town Express with me on Thursday.

I do not know anything about Cedar Hill. I'm excited for the Allen kids this year.

Go Eagles!

Allendad[/Q


-charles is unsure for the game!

AllenEagle06
11-08-2005, 08:57 PM
I saw Charles in the hallway today and it looked more like his calf was hurt or something b/c it was wrapped up but he seemed to walk just fine. I sure hope he's ok or else we're going to have to open up out passing game a little more.

businesstron
11-08-2005, 09:40 PM
Duncanville Desoto and lama....well not this year are decently physical. Anyway Cedar Hill will be up for this game, they haven't won a playoff game....ever so the upset alert is On. They are a little different from the the beginning of the year.

AllenEagle06
11-08-2005, 10:26 PM
Duncanville Desoto and lama....well not this year are decently physical. Anyway Cedar Hill will be up for this game, they haven't won a playoff game....ever so the upset alert is On. They are a little different from the the beginning of the year.
Ever?! That's pretty crazy. How many times have they been to the playoffs? They had to have won a playoff game somewhere down the line.

crwdude
11-08-2005, 11:21 PM
Allen wins 28 -21. In the final minute of the game, the game is tied, Cedar Hill has first and goal at the Allen one yard line. The huge Allen Band cranks up the volume. The Cedar Hill play call is not heard by the running back and the ball is intercepted by an Allen player, who runs 99 yards for the game wining touchdown.

You think the band can even drown out Texas Stadium???? This is not tiny Eagle Stadium anymore, keep in mind

PESHfan
11-08-2005, 11:35 PM
You think the band can even drown out Texas Stadium???? This is not tiny Eagle Stadium anymore, keep in mind


Are you kidding? Their monster band is twice the size of every other band you've seen all season.

They will make the walls shake. Bring your earplugs!

I guarantee you, IT WILL BE VERRRRRRRRY LOUD!!!

allendad
11-09-2005, 07:55 AM
PESHfan,

It is quite a crack up!

I've seen people from other schools just sitting there in there seats eating their $8 nachos.

In the distance you can hear the rat-tat-tat of drums coming from the tunnel in Texas Stadium . . . . . . . . .

Then as the horns kick in playing "Grandioso" the band enters the stadium and the jaws of those nacho eating people drop open and a thought of, "Holy Crap!" floats above their heads.

I love to see the Allen band enter Texas Stadium!

Yes, I know that a band doesn't win games. Either does 'blond' hair, but it's part of the traditions and allure of high school football. The pageantry is part of what makes it exciting.

Bands are not the same as when I was in H.S. a hundred years ago. Of course it might be that I've grown up a tad too. The "band geeks" that I labeled as a kid now are kids that don't play football, they play music. I should have played more MUSIC when I was younger, 'cuz I sure can't play football anymore! :^)

I love playoff football!

Who knows, Cedar Hill might come in to 'JOnes old house' and win . . . . .
BUt it won't be easy. Bones will be crackin!

C.H. fans, keep your eyes on #'s 11, 7, and 33 on defense. They're going to be jarring some teeth loose on your guys. They're serious hitters!

Ain't this F U N !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allendad

Vols4Ever
11-09-2005, 11:39 AM
The Band won the game for Allen last year vs Lamar in the playoffs.

They would pick up the sound REALLY REALLY loud when Lamar came to the line. It made a huge difference.

But I am of the opinion that this should not be allowed. But as long as it is allowed, I can't blame a band for doing it.

Copperas Cove band does this too. It is highly effective in key situations.

AllenEagle06
11-09-2005, 12:30 PM
That's actually why bands go to football games. To support the football team. Allen's band just has a huge advantage because they are gigantic so it's extremely loud.

My favorite part with the Allen band at Texas Stadium is the echo you can hear whenever a song goes from a really loud part to a quiter part.

dragonfootballfan
11-09-2005, 12:42 PM
That's actually why bands go to football games. To support the football team. Allen's band just has a huge advantage because they are gigantic so it's extremely loud.

My favorite part with the Allen band at Texas Stadium is the echo you can hear whenever a song goes from a really loud part to a quiter part.
I have always wanted to see the Allen band at Texas Stadium. Everytime they play there though I have a conflict and cannot make it. I probably will not be able to make it this year either even if they do play Carroll in the second round because I will not be able to make it to the game

PlanoNative
11-09-2005, 01:07 PM
I second the PESH fan's warning. Allen has a massive band and it will echo to no end in TX stadium... but only when the oppenent has the ball. I find that strategy annoying and somewhat bush league. They're fun to watch at halftime though.

As far as the game, Allen wins by a couple of touchdowns.

ASH1157
11-09-2005, 02:27 PM
The Allen band used to just play snippets of loud songs at critical points in the game. They now play whole songs when their team is on the field, so don't call it "bush league". When else are they suppose to play during a game? When their opponents raise a sign that says "Okay..you can play now." Truth be told, the only teams that have ever complained about Allen's band have been from Plano.

Cedar Hill better be prepared because it's especially loud inside Texas Stadium when Allen's band plays. As it was stated earlier in the thread, it'll throw the opposing team and their fans off.

I don't know how this game will shake out. Allen's offense looked VERY pedestrian last week against Plano East. The defense plays with a lot of heart - I love those guys. Sometimes they do get burned, but they've hardly ever lost their drive. I credit Coach Gambill for that (the defensive coordinator). Watch for Justin Griggs, Cody Gambill and Clayton Stewart to make some key plays.

I'm hoping experience wins out in this round and Allen moves on. Cedar Hill has seemingly had a Cinderella kind of season, so they may be able to ride that emotion through this round if Allen doesn't put together a better game plan this week than they had against Plano East.

Go Eagles!

alnegle07
11-09-2005, 08:07 PM
Game day tommorow!!!!! time to stop all the talk and have a lil action. oh by the way talk is cheap ceder hill (97.9) last team to do that was plano west and we all know how we took care of them.

allen 35 ceder hill 21