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cajun
07-15-2008, 12:33 PM
Got this update from another forum...

Wow!..At the talent that will be in Baton Rouge....

cajun licking his chops!...:cool:


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This is the updated camp list:

Rivals 100:
#2 JaMarkus McFarland 5* #1 DT, TX
#4 Russell Shepard 5* #1 Dual-QB, TX (committed)
#6 Rueben Randle 5* #1 WR, LA
#13 Dre Kirkpatrick 5*, #1 CB, AL
#18 Chris Davenport 5* #4 DT, LA
#20 Darius Winston 5* #2 CB, AR
#21 Craig Loston 5* #1 S, TX
#25 Gabe Lynn 4* #3 CB, OK
#31 Andre Debose 4* #6 WR, FL
#39 Jarvis Jones 4* #4 OLB, GA
#43 Patrick Patterson 4* #8 WR, MS
#48 Kraig Appleton 4* #10 WR, IL
#52 Jon Bostic 4* #5 OLB, FL
#59 Christine Michael 4* #6 Rb, Tx
#64 Kevin Brent 4* #4 S, TX
#69 Sam Montgomery 4* WDE, SC
#74 Darren Myles 4* #5 S, GA
#83 Lamar Miller 4* #9 RB, FL
#90 Ray Ray Armstrong 4* #8 ATH, FL
#91 Janzen Jackson 4* #8 CB, LA (committed)
#100 Kendall Kelly 4* #15 WR, AL

Rivals 250:
#118 Xavier Su’a Filo 4* #10 OT, UT
#141 Chad Bumphis 4* #19 WR, MS
#143 Knile Davis 4* #13 Rb, TX
#146 Kenny Bell 4* #20 WR, LA
#168 Stavion Lowe 4* #12 OT, TX
#175 Michael Brockers 4* #8 SDE, TX (committed)
#184 Chris Williams 4* #10 ILB, TX
#199 Dyron Dye 4* #7 WDE, FL
#200 Darrington Sentimore 4* #22 DT, LA
#211 Michael Ford 4* #17 RB, LA (committed)

Unranked:
Randall Dent 3* #32 SDE, TX
Willie Ferrell 3* #23 ILB, FL (committed)
Cobi Hamilton 3* #61 WR, TX
Toben Opurum 3* #31 RB, TX
Deon Simon 3* #68 DT, LA
Josh Williford NR OL, AL
Richard Wilson 3* #9 TE, UT

Class of 2010
Lache Seastrunk RB, TX
Conner Wood QB, TX
Kurt Killens LB, TX
Trevon Reed WR/DB, LA

cajun
07-15-2008, 12:43 PM
Rumor has it Craig Loston may be reconsidering things...:eek:

wesaxman34
07-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Rumor has it Craig Loston may be reconsidering things...:eek:

I'm no D1 football recruit but I've already considered transferring to LSU after those posts from yesterday...:D

pied
07-15-2008, 02:04 PM
Got this update from another forum...

Wow!..At the talent that will be in Baton Rouge....

cajun licking his chops!...:cool:


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This is the updated camp list:

Rivals 100:
#2 JaMarkus McFarland 5* #1 DT, TX
#21 Craig Loston 5* #1 S, TX
#59 Christine Michael 4* #6 Rb, Tx

Rivals 250:
Class of 2010
Lache Seastrunk RB, TX
Conner Wood QB, TX


Ones that interest me. I did not know about Lache and thought that Michael was headed to Gainesville. Loston appears to be headed somewhere besides SC and I get the feeling a$m is back in it. Odd rumblings about JM regarding TX(in a good way if you're a horn) coming about. Who knows.

cajun
07-15-2008, 02:30 PM
Ones that interest me. I did not know about Lache and thought that Michael was headed to Gainesville. Loston appears to be headed somewhere besides SC and I get the feeling a$m is back in it. Odd rumblings about JM regarding TX(in a good way if you're a horn) coming about. Who knows.

It remains to be seen who actually shows up, but there will be some good ones who do...

I believe we will pick up 3 maybe 4 out of that list-lookng at it realistically ...My opinion only...

Barkevious Mingo
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=74047&Sport=1

Kenny Bell
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=67213&Sport=1

Chris Williams (might be tired of waiting on Texas)
http://lsu.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=69860&sport=1

AND

The Big Bama kid maybe...Josh Williford...

JaMarkus McFarland = Texas....

I'll be happy with anyone from that list though...:cool:

lonny23
07-15-2008, 02:37 PM
It remains to be seen who actually shows up, but there will be some good ones who do...

I believe we will pick up 3 maybe 4 out of that list-lookng at it realistically ...My opinion only...

Barkevious Mingo
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=74047&Sport=1

Kenny Bell
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=67213&Sport=1

Chris Williams (might be tired of waiting on Texas)
http://lsu.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=69860&sport=1

AND

The Big Bama kid maybe...Josh Williford...

JaMarkus McFarland = Texas....

I'll be happy with anyone from that list though...:cool:
I'm not buying the LSU Rivals report on Chris Williams. That LSU Rivals guy is a piece of :Censor: and has major axes to grind with Tech because Terry McDaniel made him look like a fool last year. I'm not saying the boy won't end up in Baton Rouge, but your Rivals guy truly has issues and you don't get the best bang for your buck because his articles always are written to make everybody look like they're in love with LSU and anybody that doesn't want LSU is said to not be wanted by LSU.

pied
07-15-2008, 02:56 PM
I'm not buying the LSU Rivals report on Chris Williams. That LSU Rivals guy is a piece of :Censor: and has major axes to grind with Tech because Terry McDaniel made him look like a fool last year. I'm not saying the boy won't end up in Baton Rouge, but your Rivals guy truly has issues and you don't get the best bang for your buck because his articles always are written to make everybody look like they're in love with LSU and anybody that doesn't want LSU is said to not be wanted by LSU.

Curious why do you think anyone would have an axe to grind with Tech, especially someone at LSU? I could see them having an axe to grind w/Bama/other SEC teams/ou maybe/perhaps Texas, but why in the world would someone from LSU really even think about Tech?

cajun
07-15-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm not buying the LSU Rivals report on Chris Williams. That LSU Rivals guy is a piece of :Censor: and has major axes to grind with Tech because Terry McDaniel made him look like a fool last year. I'm not saying the boy won't end up in Baton Rouge, but your Rivals guy truly has issues and you don't get the best bang for your buck because his articles always are written to make everybody look like they're in love with LSU and anybody that doesn't want LSU is said to not be wanted by LSU.

I dunno about all that....

If Chris Williams wants to be a LSU Tiger now would be as good as time as any to commit...If he doesn't want to be a Tiger now, he can think about it some more....Has nothing to do with the Rival's people...(lol)

Like pied said "who knows"...

"I would not rule out the possibility of actually even making a commitment decision when I make the trip to LSU. It is not likely, but I can say that it is not impossible."

AllenTAMU
07-15-2008, 03:45 PM
Rumor has it Craig Loston may be reconsidering things...:eek:


thats coming from multiple sources now as i assume youre probably not on a lot of aggie boards

AHSeagles
07-15-2008, 04:03 PM
thats coming from multiple sources now as i assume youre probably not on a lot of aggie boards

So Loston really is taking a look at College Station now? I would love nothing more than to see him wearing maroon next year.:D

AllenTAMU
07-15-2008, 04:10 PM
So Loston really is taking a look at College Station now? I would love nothing more than to see him wearing maroon next year.:D

not so much but he was in town this past weekend and now headed to lsu's camp. who knows... he pulled his commitment from a&m over the fran vip emails... dont see why he wouldnt give a&m a second look

chhspantherfan
07-15-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm no D1 football recruit but I've already considered transferring to LSU after those posts from yesterday...:D

no foolin', I got cousins in Baton Rouge I need to visit;)

AHSeagles
07-15-2008, 04:12 PM
not so much but he was in town this past weekend and now headed to lsu's camp. who knows... he pulled his commitment from a&m over the fran vip emails... dont see why he wouldnt give a&m a second look

I'm not a member of Rivals or any other recruiting website so I don't have this kind of info, and in fact I was unaware he was committed to A&M in the first place. Thanks for the update though.

lonny23
07-15-2008, 04:24 PM
Curious why do you think anyone would have an axe to grind with Tech, especially someone at LSU? I could see them having an axe to grind w/Bama/other SEC teams/ou maybe/perhaps Texas, but why in the world would someone from LSU really even think about Tech?
Terry McDaniel committed to Texas Tech last year and had a written offer from LSU. For about 3 months, the Tech Rivals site kept having his profile updated with an LSU offer and the LSU Rivals guy kept getting the guys in Nashville to take the LSU offer away. Finally, Terry McDaniel's dad scanned a copy of the written LSU offer to Tech to be posted on RedRaiderSports.com so his profile once and for all would say he had an LSU offer, but was committed to Texas Tech.

The bottom line is LSU wanted him and he didn't want them and their Rivals guy and/or staff at LSU didn't want people to know that somebody picked Texas Tech over LSU. Anybody that is petty enough to lie about something as simple as an official offer will also be petty about getting back and other things. I've seen about 3 things from LSU this year that have painted Texas Tech in a less than stellar light. That's why I said what I said.

By the way, Terry McDaniel went from 2 stars to 3 stars once it was decided once and for all he had an LSU offer. I don't know if it was because of in-season film review because the main site and teams constantly send in film and make suggestions on stars or if we have another case of a big offer influencing a player's rating.

cajun
07-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Terry McDaniel committed to Texas Tech last year and had a written offer from LSU. For about 3 months, the Tech Rivals site kept having his profile updated with an LSU offer and the LSU Rivals guy kept getting the guys in Nashville to take the LSU offer away. Finally, Terry McDaniel's dad scanned a copy of the written LSU offer to Tech to be posted on RedRaiderSports.com so his profile once and for all would say he had an LSU offer, but was committed to Texas Tech.

The bottom line is LSU wanted him and he didn't want them and their Rivals guy and/or staff at LSU didn't want people to know that somebody picked Texas Tech over LSU. Anybody that is petty enough to lie about something as simple as an official offer will also be petty about getting back and other things. I've seen about 3 things from LSU this year that have painted Texas Tech in a less than stellar light. That's why I said what I said.

By the way, Terry McDaniel went from 2 stars to 3 stars once it was decided once and for all he had an LSU offer. I don't know if it was because of in-season film review because the main site and teams constantly send in film and make suggestions on stars or if we have another case of a big offer influencing a player's rating.

It's all a conspiracy against Texas Tech, lonny23, AND LSU is not the only school involved...

slorch
07-15-2008, 06:19 PM
It's all a conspiracy against Texas Tech, lonny23, AND LSU is not the only school involved...

actually Lonny is right on this one. It was stupid really, but it went down like Lonny described the Mcdaniel situation.

cajun
07-15-2008, 06:26 PM
actually Lonny is right on this one. It was stupid really, but it went down like Lonny described the Mcdaniel situation.

Well, I don't remember it...Not saying it didn't happen...I was probably focused on something else...

Seems like TT got their man, rest is petty BS to me...I don't work at Rivals...(lol)

Bottom line, I guess...You get an LSU offer better scan it...

cajun
07-15-2008, 06:35 PM
We had two of our earlier commits this year lose stars shorty after committing to us...Kevin Minter and Willie Ferrell were both 4-star kids until Rivals shuffled the deck....Of course both will end up 4-star kids anyways, most likely...

Also, Henry Orelus our 3-star commit will probably be changing his mind any day now....He will most likely end up at one of the Florida schools...I guarantee you Orelus will be a 4-star after they shuffle the deck yet again...

What am I suppose to do?...(lol)

Lets play some ball!...:D

slorch
07-15-2008, 06:47 PM
Well, I don't remember it...Not saying it didn't happen...I was probably focused on something else...

Seems like TT got their man, rest is petty BS to me...I don't work at Rivals...(lol)

Bottom line, I guess...You get an LSU offer better scan it...

It was very petty, to say the least, and IMO, it proved once again, that it is seldom about the kids, but what they can do for the schools.

In this case, i don't really blame either school, but a media rep, even worse. he repeatedly and publicly questioned that Miles had ever offered McDaniel. Finally, Mcdaniel's dad faxed a copy of it to Rivals.

cajun
07-15-2008, 07:06 PM
In this case, i don't really blame either school, but a media rep, even worse. he repeatedly and publicly questioned that Miles had ever offered McDaniel. Finally, Mcdaniel's dad faxed a copy of it to Rivals.

Well, I'm glad it all worked out...None of it has anything to do with Chris Williams though...He has an offer...;)

lonny23
07-15-2008, 10:06 PM
Well, I'm glad it all worked out...None of it has anything to do with Chris Williams though...He has an offer...;)
You're more than welcome to pull the offer any day. Here's my gripe about the whole deal, but I have to leave a caveat.

The LSU Rivals guy has Tech fans moaning and groaning about what he said or might've said. I hate that the guys with pens and laptops make people go crazy like that. I also think it's foolish for the Tech fans to go crazy over what a LSU guy says because of this:

1. Tech fans get the straight scoop from our guys.
2. LSU wants LSU to look good.
3. We know there are issues with the LSU Rivals guy.
4. People do change their minds and sometimes they're even misquoted.

It's not worth fretting over until Chris Williams comes out and tells the Tech coaches and Rivals guys to leave him alone.

lonny23
07-15-2008, 10:07 PM
actually Lonny is right on this one. It was stupid really, but it went down like Lonny described the Mcdaniel situation.
I'm right on many ones. Sometimes I'm just way ahead of the curve!:D

slorch
07-15-2008, 10:55 PM
You're more than welcome to pull the offer any day. Here's my gripe about the whole deal, but I have to leave a caveat.

The LSU Rivals guy has Tech fans moaning and groaning about what he said or might've said. I hate that the guys with pens and laptops make people go crazy like that. I also think it's foolish for the Tech fans to go crazy over what a LSU guy says because of this:

1. Tech fans get the straight scoop from our guys.
2. LSU wants LSU to look good.
3. We know there are issues with the LSU Rivals guy.
4. People do change their minds and sometimes they're even misquoted.

It's not worth fretting over until Chris Williams comes out and tells the Tech coaches and Rivals guys to leave him alone.

I didn't go crazy about anything a so-called "recruiting guru" said.

Let's be clear on that.

Only an idiot would give them any credance in the first place...

slorch
07-15-2008, 10:56 PM
I'm right on many ones. Sometimes I'm just way ahead of the curve!:D

OK, NBA reffing was one.

I knew this one as well as you did...no extra credit.;):D

cajun
07-15-2008, 11:07 PM
I didn't go crazy about anything a so-called "recruiting guru" said.


cajun = "recruiting guru"

:D

slorch
07-16-2008, 07:35 AM
cajun = "recruiting guru"

:D

you really want that label?

Oh well labels are a dime a dozen around here...;):D

cajun
07-16-2008, 08:03 AM
you really want that label?

Oh well labels are a dime a dozen around here...;):D

It's better than sip or sparky...:D

pied
07-16-2008, 08:39 AM
You're more than welcome to pull the offer any day. Here's my gripe about the whole deal, but I have to leave a caveat.

The LSU Rivals guy has Tech fans moaning and groaning about what he said or might've said. I hate that the guys with pens and laptops make people go crazy like that. I also think it's foolish for the Tech fans to go crazy over what a LSU guy says because of this:

1. Tech fans get the straight scoop from our guys.
2. LSU wants LSU to look good.
3. We know there are issues with the LSU Rivals guy.
4. People do change their minds and sometimes they're even misquoted.

It's not worth fretting over until Chris Williams comes out and tells the Tech coaches and Rivals guys to leave him alone.

I think there are a couple of things at play. Certainly all publishers of the Rivals websites write to their audience to some degree and most have at least some contact with the staff or insider. If not, they would not be in business long as people would simply refuse to pay for their lack of information.

I have been a premium member at ORangebloods since the beginning(actually predating it going back to Garvin). I have also been a member of AggieYell for several years and had a subscription to the Peristyle(USC) for a little over a year.

I think by and large, the guys that write the stuff try to be as up front and honest as is possible. They certainly sit on some things to keep their sources protected, and the level of professionalism among the site owners is pretty high in my opinion. I find it hard to believe that Rivals would allow much shenanigans to go on. There is too much money at stake. The owners are also very awarre that they walk a very fine tightrope. What they say is being monitored by the kids and the coaching staff.

The coaches are not allowed to comment on the players, so the info supposedly coming from them has to be worded very very carefully and I think that Rivals and the writers know very well. If they violate it they are done.

So, to this case. I certainly think that the LSU guys would rather LSU look good, but I think there was probably more going on. Here's my theory. The LSU guy asks whoever he knows w/info if the kid got a scholarship offer and is told, no. This happens all the time. Who would the guy believe? His source or a kid?

Who knows what happened. Maybe the source didn't know about the offer, maybe it was sent inadvertently, maybe they sent it and rescinded it. I think I posted earlier that LSU has something like 100 offers out, so any of those seem reasonable.

When you press me who is more likely to be telling the truth, someone who I have been in communication with for a long time or a HS kid, I know who I go with. Sometimes you're wrong though. I just don't see it as some sort of conspiracy by LSU guys to keep Texas Tech down.

slorch
07-16-2008, 08:56 AM
Who knows what happened. What we described is what happened. Bottom line is that the kid was offered by LSU. Maybe the source didn't know about the offer, maybe it was sent inadvertently, maybe they sent it and rescinded it. Pure BS. The publisher disputed the offer over a month or so. Looks like they would be better at their jobs right, with so much money at stake:rolleyes:. I think I posted earlier that LSU has something like 100 offers out, so any of those seem reasonable. No they do not. If you're going to publicly dispute what a kid says, then you had better know WTH you are talking about. There's an attitude that abounds with these services that they have the best scoop of juicy info. Rivals dropped the ball.

When you press me who is more likely to be telling the truth, someone who I have been in communication with for a long time or a HS kid, I know who I go with. Sometimes you're wrong though. I just don't see it as some sort of conspiracy by LSU guys to keep Texas Tech down.

When the offer has been produced as evidence, Rivals gets absolutely no benefit of the doubt in my book.

I agree 100% about your last point. Recruiting rankings mean diddly once the ball is kicked off, so who cares about who said what about what school. The integrity of the recruit is what I am willing to go to bat for, not for some pecking order of schools.

cajun
07-16-2008, 09:40 AM
Just to put things in proper perspective..

Earlier this year Rivals reported that two Louisiana kids had committed to LSU...Big Story....Next day(sorry, 1 hour later) they came back and said they had made a huge mistake....How do you think those kids felt-like garbage?....There's still great debate if one of the kids even has a "commitable" offer....This is a true story....I guess LSU is out to get LSU too...

Now, I feel badly for both Louisiana kids...The Texas Tech kid from what I've been reading had no intentions of ever coming to LSU-they just wanted everyone to know he had an offer from the mighty LSU and Texas Tech won some kind of giant recruiting battle over a 2-star...That's petty in my book...Seems to be alot of ego issues over there, in my opinion...

Rivals, Scout, or any of them are far from perfect...Like Pied mentioned...We got 100 offers floating around the nation "supposedly"....I wish mistakes, bad infomation, and whatnot never happened in recruiting, but it does and ain't NO one perfect-not even the Texas Tech guy..

That is all...

cajun
07-16-2008, 10:08 AM
2 kids from Louisiana-alittle of it, anyways...Earlier this year right around Junior Day....

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=7298301

pied
07-16-2008, 10:09 AM
Here's an interesting one, Christine Michael. Ask any moderator, a$m/tu and they'll tell you that Texas has Whaley and that's it. Now many of them question that tactic, but it is what it is. Certainly he has no offer and Texas is not pursuing him.

Here is a quote from the latest article on him:

"I'm not going to any camps, but I will be taking visits," said the four-star prospect. "I've got an unofficial visit at Florida from Thursday to Sunday. After Florida, I have one day of rest at home and then I'm going to go to Texas. I have two days rest after that, then I go to LSU and Texas A&M."

Michael has maintained a top three throughout the entire recruiting process of Texas A&M, Texas and LSU. He says that is still the case, but some other schools could be working their way up his list.

So I am left to think a couple of things. Either the LSU guy knew he had an offer and figured he could hide it to boost LSU's perception. Doing that he risks what happened and the guy calls him on it and he loks like an idiot. Or he got bad info and believed that source over the kid, still looks like an idiot, but for entirely different reasons.

cajun
07-16-2008, 10:39 AM
So I am left to think a couple of things. Either the LSU guy knew he had an offer and figured he could hide it to boost LSU's perception. Doing that he risks what happened and the guy calls him on it and he loks like an idiot. Or he got bad info and believed that source over the kid, still looks like an idiot, but for entirely different reasons.

You lost me, I think....Christine Michael does have an LSU offer...I'm not really sure how heavy we going after him now though...Most people think he's headed to A&M....

He will be a great one where ever he decides to play ball and get an education...

pied
07-16-2008, 10:49 AM
You lost me, I think....Christine Michael does have an LSU offer...I'm not really sure how heavy we going after him now though...Most people think he's headed to A&M....

He will be a great one where ever he decides to play ball and get an education...

Sorry, he is listing Texas when the coaches at Texas are not pursuing him and only taking Whaley at this point.

I bet FL gets him. It seems like he wants to go somewhere besides a$m, but right now they are the best that really want him, which is odd given that he appears to be a great great player.

I think in a few years there may be some coaches wanting a do over on him.

cajun
07-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Sorry, he is listing Texas when the coaches at Texas are not pursuing him and only taking Whaley at this point.

I bet FL gets him. It seems like he wants to go somewhere besides a$m, but right now they are the best that really want him, which is odd given that he appears to be a great great player.

I think in a few years there may be some coaches wanting a do over on him.

I dunno...Someone said Texas offered him on the Bayou Forum...Probably BS...You never really know what's going on behind the scenes...

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=8967005

pied
07-16-2008, 11:12 AM
I dunno...Someone said Texas offered him on the Bayou Forum...Probably BS...You never really know what's going on behind the scenes...

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=8967005

I'd like to see it, but I don't think that's happening. Appears to be Whaley and try for Seastrunk. RB from FL loves Texas as well and we are not recruiting him. Could be a very good or bad decision.

lonny23
07-16-2008, 11:33 AM
Just to put things in proper perspective..

Earlier this year Rivals reported that two Louisiana kids had committed to LSU...Big Story....Next day(sorry, 1 hour later) they came back and said they had made a huge mistake....How do you think those kids felt-like garbage?....There's still great debate if one of the kids even has a "commitable" offer....This is a true story....I guess LSU is out to get LSU too...

Now, I feel badly for both Louisiana kids...The Texas Tech kid from what I've been reading had no intentions of ever coming to LSU-they just wanted everyone to know he had an offer from the mighty LSU and Texas Tech won some kind of giant recruiting battle over a 2-star...That's petty in my book...Seems to be alot of ego issues over there, in my opinion...

Rivals, Scout, or any of them are far from perfect...Like Pied mentioned...We got 100 offers floating around the nation "supposedly"....I wish mistakes, bad infomation, and whatnot never happened in recruiting, but it does and ain't NO one perfect-not even the Texas Tech guy..

That is all...Part of the deal with McDaniel is the Tech guys felt all along he should be a 3-star kid and proving the LSU offer was just one part of the equation. The other part is these kids want to be wanted and that goes for all the schools that they don't commit to. It would make me mad for a school to give me an offer and then people close to the program come back and say they never did give me an offer. They were basically calling his family and him a liar. Since his dad is the Head Coach at New Diana, you have to figure that might put a dent in some of LSU's future recruiting efforts because you know coaches talk. I really do think there are petty games involved here and it's probably LSU staff in on this stuff, too. Don't forget teams pull offers from commits when they get better deals. It's not always on the up and up.

Back on the Chris Williams front, there were 1 or 2 more cases this year where he said something supposedly anti-Tech or thought to be anti-Tech and he came back later to say that's not the case. I don't know what to think. I can see the smoke and fire analogy, but I also know the reports came from people that I have ZERO trust in (Texas and LSU Rivals guys). Sometimes it seems like he wants a bigger offer and will settle for Tech and maybe he's playing the field. Many people think he likes Tech more than he lets on and I don't know what will happen.

I'll say on the record that I think the Texas Top 100 that's done by Longhorn guys is slanted to the guys that Texas is recruiting and getting commits from.

lonny23
07-16-2008, 11:37 AM
Sorry, he is listing Texas when the coaches at Texas are not pursuing him and only taking Whaley at this point.

I bet FL gets him. It seems like he wants to go somewhere besides a$m, but right now they are the best that really want him, which is odd given that he appears to be a great great player.

I think in a few years there may be some coaches wanting a do over on him.I often see players that list schools that they don't have an offer from. It just means they want an offer. Tech signed Deveric Gallington this year and he wanted an offer from Florida for months, but never got it. Finally, he committed to Tech. I mean I could put a Rivals profile of myself on there and say Tech is my top choice, but that doesn't mean they'll give me an offer!:D

pied
07-16-2008, 11:55 AM
I can see the smoke and fire analogy, but I also know the reports came from people that I have ZERO trust in (Texas and LSU Rivals guys). Sometimes it seems like he wants a bigger offer and will settle for Tech and maybe he's playing the field. Many people think he likes Tech more than he lets on and I don't know what will happen.

I'll say on the record that I think the Texas Top 100 that's done by Longhorn guys is slanted to the guys that Texas is recruiting and getting commits from.


I agree that the various sites' top 100 list might be slanted towards their recruits. You'll notice that whenever I have done comparisons I ahve used the Aggie Yell top 100 for that reason.

I also think there may be less ulterior motives, but who cares. Typically the sites agree in the general direction of a recruit's ranking, but the exact order migh differ slightly. Being #2 as opposed to #8. Not that big of a deal. Being #45 instead of #61, the same. To me it's pretty close.

Also the guys many times are more familiar with recruits, their schools are after. Why would a Texas guy watch a ton of film on a 60-80 type player that they will never report on? By the same token, they are probably very likely to be looking at a guy that their school's staff is on that others may not be as much.

With very few excetptions, I trust published writers' opinions over anonymous internet posters like myself.

TrojanHorse03
07-16-2008, 03:39 PM
We had two of our earlier commits this year lose stars shorty after committing to us...Kevin Minter and Willie Ferrell were both 4-star kids until Rivals shuffled the deck....

Oh it must be a conspiracy :rolleyes:!

cajun
07-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Josh Williford commits today-no surprise really....Hopefully this will be the start of a great LSU camp...I see 2 or 3 more committing in the next couple days....

Who will it be?...That's the fun part of recruiting...

Big Bama Kid...

http://olemiss.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=81034&sport=1

pied
07-18-2008, 04:24 PM
I understand Loston/McFarland both might be there. I may begin to hate Les Miles.

cajun
07-18-2008, 05:03 PM
I understand Loston/McFarland both might be there. I may begin to hate Les Miles.

They might..

I ain't too thrilled about Josh Williford though...I hope they know what they are doing....

cajun
07-18-2008, 07:08 PM
McFarland not coming...

McFarland ain't coming here...:mad:

WestPlano006
07-19-2008, 12:21 PM
McFarland not coming...

McFarland ain't coming here...:mad:

Grandma said no

pied
07-19-2008, 03:52 PM
Grandma said no

Knew I liked Grandma!!!

I think this one is a long way from being decided.

cajun
07-19-2008, 04:12 PM
Knew I liked Grandma!!!

I think this one is a long way from being decided.

Probably right...I ain't feeling the vibes though...

As long as we can land these two I'll be happy...

Chris Davenport
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=71459&Sport=1

Darrington Sentimore-just waiting on some grade issues...Suppose to be ok, then he will get an offer...
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=72208&Sport=1

HUM398
07-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Kids go to Camps all over the country, it doesn't mean they are looking to commit. It's their way of staying in shape. Craig Loston attended a 3 day camp supposedly at Texas this summer, we all know he isn't considering Texas.


Kids go to camps, and coaches at top programs know the top kids will come to their camp. Offers will be made, and offers will be accepted...But most importantly Offers will be considered, and eventually declined.

cajun
07-19-2008, 05:08 PM
Kids go to Camps all over the country, it doesn't mean they are looking to commit. It's their way of staying in shape. Craig Loston attended a 3 day camp supposedly at Texas this summer, we all know he isn't considering Texas.


Kids go to camps, and coaches at top programs know the top kids will come to their camp. Offers will be made, and offers will be accepted...But most importantly Offers will be considered, and eventually declined.

Pretty much true...I'm still looking for 2 to 3 kids to commit before it's over...

Just another recruiting tool...Some kids seeing what we got for the first time....

lonny23
07-21-2008, 01:36 PM
I'm not buying the LSU Rivals report on Chris Williams. That LSU Rivals guy is a piece of :Censor: and has major axes to grind with Tech because Terry McDaniel made him look like a fool last year. I'm not saying the boy won't end up in Baton Rouge, but your Rivals guy truly has issues and you don't get the best bang for your buck because his articles always are written to make everybody look like they're in love with LSU and anybody that doesn't want LSU is said to not be wanted by LSU.
Here is a followup to the Chris Williams story. I had a feeling that what he was attributed to be saying was not what he was actually trying to get across. Of course, knowing he's been to Tech so many times in the last few years didn't hurt in my analysis that he is far from being a Tech hater.


It's not every year that West Texas produces a top-flight linebacker, but that's the case this year with Abilene High product Chris Williams. The 5A Defensive Player of the Year has been a hot commodity thus far on the recruiting trail, garnering attention from across the country.

But with all that attention, some have been wondering if the first school to offer Williams, Texas Tech, is still high on the Abilene native's list.

At the heart of some of the grumblings from Red Raider fans over the last few weeks is a quote that appeared in a TigerBait.com story a few weeks ago, in which Williams was quoted as having said the following:

"Staying close to home is not a big deal. If that was the case I would just go to Texas Tech and that is not what I want to do."

When asked about the quote in question, Williams explained that it sounds worse than he had intended.

"I'm sure I did say something along those lines," laughed Williams. "But, I think that was taken out of context. I think they had just asked me about staying close to home because of my mom, and I basically said, hey, if all I was looking for in a school was being close to home, then the obvious choice, really the only choice, would be Tech, but that's not the only thing I'm considering, so that's why Tech's not the only school I'm looking at."

Williams went on to tell us that the point he trying to make was he's not unwilling to go to a school that's not close to home.

"So, what I was basically saying was that I don't care how far away a school is, if that's the right place, I'll go there," he said. "I mean, I'll go play football in Alaska if that's the best place for me, I really don't care. So when people are asking if I'm going to go to Tech so that I can be close to my mom, I pretty much have to say no, because if I go there, it won't just be because of being close to home. It will be because I really like the school and want to be there. If all I wanted was a school that was really close to home, then obviously, the only good school that comes to mind is Tech, so that's what I was saying. Location will not play a huge factor in where I go, so I think that's what I was trying to say by answering that question."

Williams then pointed to his unofficial visit to Texas Tech a few weeks ago as evidence that they are as much in the running as anyone else.

"The only place I've visited is Texas Tech this summer," he said. "I didn't end up going to LSU or anywhere else, really, so Tech was the only place I ended up visiting."

cajun
07-21-2008, 02:35 PM
A few photos from the LSU camp so far...

Chris Davenport (DL) *****
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418500.jpg

Rueben Randle (WR/QB) *****
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418502.jpg

Michael Ford (RB) **** (LSU commit)-say he ran a 4.4 at camp...
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418503.jpg

Conner Wood (QB) Texas Boy(2010 class)..
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418509.jpg

Michael Brockers (DE) **** (LSU commit)..I think this kid will be special..
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418512.jpg

cajun
07-21-2008, 02:45 PM
Camp going great is the word....No commits yet, but that's ok...

Last one..

Deon Simon (DL) *** Louisiana kid probably headed to Central Florida...

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418513.jpg

cajun
07-22-2008, 12:01 AM
Couple of kids we will be hearing alot of in the future...

Anthony Johnson-DE (OP Walker, New Orleans "2011")
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=79041
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/886/F418690.jpg

Carrington Byndom-CB (Lufkin, Texas "2010")-no camp photo yet...
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CARRINGTONBYNDOM6_23150.JPG
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=84485