Longview vs. John Tyler // Who wins?

[raidercheerdad]

This has all the makings of a great game -- who takes it and why?

[Redneckn]

I say JT.. I just have issues with Longview.. But I guess it would be kind of kool for them to go all the way this year...

I still have to root for JT though..

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

CUJO by 1.

[PantherStang84]

My heart says JT, but my brain says Longview.

[PurpleNation]

I have a feeling Cujo will be up for this one. So I am going with my gut feeling and predict the Lions to Upset the Lobos in Longview by a TD.


John Tyler 28

Longview 21

[Favpack]

I voted for Longview even though I smell an upset. This is a big game for Longview - and just icing on the cake for JT's great, but unpredicted run. I still think JT wants it more - and if the Lobos come out flat - something could be wrong in LTown - just not sure what.

I predict a great game with Longview refinding their inner spark and drive and just having too much for JT this year. The Lions will roar in the playoffs -- but I don't think they take down Longview at Lobo stadium.

Longview - 28
John Tyler - 21

[StormingCowboy]

You guys don't think the Lobos will be up for JT??

[lonny23]

I voted for Longview even though I smell an upset. This is a big game for Longview - and just icing on the cake for JT's great, but unpredicted run. I still think JT wants it more - and if the Lobos come out flat - something could be wrong in LTown - just not sure what.

I predict a great game with Longview refinding their inner spark and drive and just having too much for JT this year. The Lions will roar in the playoffs -- but I don't think they take down Longview at Lobo stadium.

Longview - 28
John Tyler - 21
This can go either way, but I'll stick with the Lobo clan.

[wide-e-wide]

I will go with Longview in this one.

[pack0808]

Longview is do to play a great game and they are at home and they will be pumped up. I like Longview by at least 14!! At least!! If Jt wins this game i will be a believer that they are back. I do not see it happening. I actually think this one could get ugly. I will say 31-6

[c-lisle]

You guys don't think the Lobos will be up for JT??


exactly

[Favpack]

Yes, absolutely Longview should and will be up for this game - but they've played flat two games in a row - so, question marks can come in. Even if the JT kids want it more - Longview would have to play flat to lose IMO - and I don't see that happening - thus, my Lobo victory prediction.

[PurpleNation]

exactly




I know the Lobos will be up for this one but I believe the Lions are still playing for respect and they will leave it all on the field. The Lobos can not come out flat against Cujo pr JT will pull off the upset. I believe either win or lose for Longview they will turn it up a notch in the playoffs and take the Div 1 crown.

[LongviewLobo209]

Longview will show up for this one. Dont look for Coach King to show a whole lot, since we are about to go into the playoffs. They players will do what it takes to win. It could be a big defensive battle, because JT has defended the running game well. The difference will be a couple of big passing plays by Longview that will give them the victory.

My Prediction:
Longview - 24
John Tyler - 13

[panthermaniac]

I'm envious of LV and JT. This will be such an exciting game. I'm almost tempted to go to your game instead of ours. I miss the old East Texas slug-fests, and this should be a great one. Good luck to both teams. No injuries.

[BigArab]

I say Longview returns back to earth and utillizes the explosiveness they had in the first 7 games.

Longview 42
JT 17

[Cujo]

I don't want to make any predictions or have any expectations going into this game, I just want to sit back and watch (hopefully) what will be the best game of the year. However, if JT does happen to win, this game will be VERY VERY close and will come down to the last mins of the game...... probably with JT making a defensive stand.

The thing I'm worried about most is, if JT wins, I'm very afraid of a colossal letdown the next week in the playoffs.

[JoeC]

Man I can't wait . . . can hardly sleep. If the Lobos are as pumped as I am, man watch out!! I am gonna (going to) stick with my original prediction of 38-13 . . . Why change at this stage of the game . . . Either way, I'll still be supporting JT, Marshall, Kilgore, Texas High, Jacksonville, Tatum, Gilmer, Daingerfield, Jefferson, Palestine, Canton, Van, Troup, Arp, Big Sandy, Harleton, New Diana, and Waskom; and oh yeah, LP of course, unless or until they play us . . . Good luck East Texas!! Let's power through the playoffs like last year - represent!! :D

[PackAttack2005]

This game is a toss up!

[c-lisle]

This game is a toss up!


If Longview comes out and plays well this game is not a toss up. With all the hype I think they know this a big game and JT is not a pushover. Look for Longview to silence the critics.

[bleedgreen]

yes, if Longview comes out flat as we have witnessed over the past 2 weeks, they will lose!! but, i've got a feeling on this one that Longview will be fired up and on top of their game friday night.....JT will be there to win, giving 110%...they look really good and are a hot ball club right now...going to be a good one...good luck to my JT brothers, hope everyone has a safe trip to Lobo Stadium and home afterwards........heard a rumor standing in the ticket line this morning---some fans said that there were 15,000-20,000 expected friday night, along with about 3 or 4 news networks covering the game---that's crazy!! i do know that there was a line out to the parking lot for tickets at 7:00 this morning---they are going fast.......

[SWT2002]

Whoever has the ball last wins this game, thats my quess. Go Big Blue, bring it back to Tyler for a year!


Good luck in the playoffs LONGVIEW!

[PurpleNation]

yes, if Longview comes out flat as we have witnessed over the past 2 weeks, they will lose!! but, i've got a feeling on this one that Longview will be fired up and on top of their game friday night.....JT will be there to win, giving 110%...they look really good and are a hot ball club right now...going to be a good one...good luck to my JT brothers, hope everyone has a safe trip to Lobo Stadium and home afterwards........heard a rumor standing in the ticket line this morning---some fans said that there were 15,000-20,000 expected friday night, along with about 3 or 4 news networks covering the game---that's crazy!! i do know that there was a line out to the parking lot for tickets at 7:00 this morning---they are going fast.......

I will be calling my homeboy during the game to get updates because I have to go to the Lufkin vs Klien Collins game. But we will find out if Cujo is for real and I had them finishing second in the district after the beat Texas High this season and alot of people said I was crazy.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

If anybody going to the game text me at (936) 676-6322. it can only receive text cuz I'm not paying the bill. give me updates please.

[Pantherdan]

JT, Cujo, the Lions. This team has nothing to lose. They have nothing to prove. They are where they are through hard work and determination. My gut tells me They win but my brain says to stick with a proven powerhouse over the last few years. Both teams have my respect and even my envy as they still get to play with the old East Texas teams. It reminds me of my old high school days. The atmosphere will be rockin. Good Luck to both teams. This one will be decided by a field goal and in the final seconds if my hunch is right. Longview will pull the win but they will have to fight for it.

Cant wait to hear how it turns out. Much Love to both teams!!!

[Drake]

I don't know ANYTHING about either team except that Earl Campbell used to play for John Tyler... So, I voted Tyler.

(Hey! Some people vote for PRESIDENT with less information)

[BigArab]

JT, Cujo, the Lions. This team has nothing to lose. They have nothing to prove. They are where they are through hard work and determination. My gut tells me They win but my brain says to stick with a proven powerhouse over the last few years. Both teams have my respect and even my envy as they still get to play with the old East Texas teams. It reminds me of my old high school days. The atmosphere will be rockin. Good Luck to both teams. This one will be decided by a field goal and in the final seconds if my hunch is right. Longview will pull the win but they will have to fight for it.

Cant wait to hear how it turns out. Much Love to both teams!!!

Any guesses on what the new district will be? I'd love to have Lufkin back in good old 12-5A. Think of how much crazier that round-robin distrit would've been if JT had been this good a couple of years ago.

[PurpleNation]

Any guesses on what the new district will be? I'd love to have Lufkin back in good old 12-5A. Think of how much crazier that round-robin distrit would've been if JT had been this good a couple of years ago.


Oh man that would have been the toughest district in the state wait it already was even with 4 teams but if Cujo was a power then like they were in the 90's then man what a war that would have been.

I really feel that Cujo will win this one with defense. Plus John Tyler's massive O-Line might be able to wear down the smaller guys in green up front. Vondrell if the man among boys but I will go with Kerry Madoxx as the hero to win this game. I believe he has all the tools and with a couple of big play threats at WR Madoxx will get the job done.

Madoxx 200 All purpose yards

Vondrell 100 yards but on more then 20 carries.

[BigArab]

Oh man that would have been the toughest district in the state wait it already was even with 4 teams but if Cujo was a power then like they were in the 90's then man what a war that would have been.

I really feel that Cujo will win this one with defense. Plus John Tyler's massive O-Line might be able to wear down the smaller guys in green up front. Vondrell if the man among boys but I will go with Kerry Madoxx as the hero to win this game. I believe he has all the tools and with a couple of big play threats at WR Madoxx will get the job done.

Madoxx 200 All purpose yards

Vondrell 100 yards but on more then 20 carries.

Good analysis. I agree...Maddox will probably get good yardage, but I'll have to say that he gets sacked 3 times. Size is good, but Longview's speed off the edge is great.

My guess on Vondrell will be 20 carries for 150 yards and 3 TDs. But, I dont' think he's every had more than 20 carries in one game.....ever....

[PurpleNation]

Good analysis. I agree...Maddox will probably get good yardage, but I'll have to say that he gets sacked 3 times. Size is good, but Longview's speed off the edge is great.

My guess on Vondrell will be 20 carries for 150 yards and 3 TDs. But, I dont' think he's every had more than 20 carries in one game.....ever....


Yes Longview will come hard off the edges and if they rattle Madoxx then this one could go the big green's way. I see Ivory being the hero for Longview if they win but JT looks real good upfront but they have not faced the best backfield in Texas yet. What might be the deciding factor is the arm of Freemen if he is on then that will open up the running lanes for the best RB in Texas and McGee could have a big game. But my final prediction even though my brain saids Longview my heart feels that Cujo has resurected

John Tyler 28

Longview 21

[Red Raiders]

Longview seems to have problem with defense and there offense seem to decrease now, I don't know whats the problem is... I have seen JT improved their offense and Defense is alittle improved so far... I am very impressed with JT, I should be along with you Cujo for supporting JT Team on here. :D. I believe JT will be much improved by Friday. I encourage them to beat Longview and I encourage Longview to win state this year. I just lost my team... :mad:

[PurpleNation]

Longview seems to have problem with defense and there offense seem to decrease now, I don't know whats the problem is... I have seen JT improved their offense and Defense is alittle improved so far... I am very impressed with JT, I should be along with you Cujo for supporting JT Team on here. :D. I believe JT will be much improved by Friday. I encourage them to beat Longview and I encourage Longview to win state this year. I just lost my team... :mad:


Tyler Lee will reload Owens will make sure of that. Tyler Lee will be back into the playoffs next year no doubt might even win district.

[Red Raiders]

Tyler Lee will reload Owens will make sure of that. Tyler Lee will be back into the playoffs next year no doubt might even win district.

Dude... How do you know? Do you even go to our school? Well I don't think so. Its going to be worst than this year and they will not make them playoffs again probably. The QB for next year is not any good than past 2 years QB at all. I just don't think were not going to make them playoffs again. Please don't make up stuff...

[panthermaniac]

Good Lord, Red Raider! Who needs fans like you! Maybe they won't be better next year, who really knows. But, win or lose, they are YOUR team and you ought to stick with them. Every team has a down season occasionally. If you only support your team when they are the state champ, you are missing out on what it means to be a fan.

[owldog]

I wonder if this will be on radio and where are they playing? Great game

[Red Raiders]

Good Lord, Red Raider! Who needs fans like you! Maybe they won't be better next year, who really knows. But, win or lose, they are YOUR team and you ought to stick with them. Every team has a down season occasionally. If you only support your team when they are the state champ, you are missing out on what it means to be a fan.

Really? do you want me to be dishonest than I can say some make up stories? how do you like that?

[c-lisle]

If anybody going to the game text me at (936) 676-6322. it can only receive text cuz I'm not paying the bill. give me updates please.


i thought you were going to this game?

[c-lisle]

I wonder if this will be on radio and where are they playing? Great game


Lobo stadium. It will be on 95.3 in Longview. JT games are on the net @ www.smoaky.com

[toonman]

This will be a close one. I think Longview will win this one. I see Longview going deep in the play-offs and will be a test for any of the big names. In fact Longview is one of the "big names"

[BuffFan2005]

tossup game tyler lee down this year what happened to them man?

[KLH75287]

L'view has been workin' too hard to let this one get by them. If they will begin thinking like they must win instead of they are going to win, this will not be that close. They have all the tools to make this one ugly. JT has had a great "welcome back" season, but The Lobos entered this year with destiny on their mind. I think they have something to prove going into the playoffs. Don't be surprised to see them dominate, but we will have to wait and see which Lobo team shows up.

GO PACK IN '05

[BigArab]

I can see why many of you are putting confidence in JT, but I just got through talking with a JV player who said that they have been fired up since yesterday. He said that the practices the past few weeks have been too light and now they're killing them. They haven't been unloading on anyone in practice, but he said he could just see the pent up frustration. He says he thinks if Cartez doesn't knock someone into another timezone, he might have an aneurysm. There are just too many weapons to stop at once. David Robinson has really proven he is a deep threat, the heir apparent to Malcolm Kelly. If they get the party started with a few quick passes, the second they bite on the pass, Von or Chris will take it to the house. I donno...it just sounds to me like we're going to see a blowout.

Call me a homer...just my prediction

Longview 42
JT 17

[c-lisle]

I can see why many of you are putting confidence in JT, but I just got through talking with a JV player who said that they have been fired up since yesterday. He said that the practices the past few weeks have been too light and now they're killing them. They haven't been unloading on anyone in practice, but he said he could just see the pent up frustration. He says he thinks if Cartez doesn't knock someone into another timezone, he might have an aneurysm. There are just too many weapons to stop at once. David Robinson has really proven he is a deep threat, the heir apparent to Malcolm Kelly. If they get the party started with a few quick passes, the second they bite on the pass, Von or Chris will take it to the house. I donno...it just sounds to me like we're going to see a blowout.

Call me a homer...just my prediction

Longview 42
JT 17

thats good to hear. if Longview gets a chip on their shoulder and comes out to prove how good they are I agree they will win big

[BigArab]

thats good to hear. if Longview gets a chip on their shoulder and comes out to prove how good they are I agree they will win big

Cartez looking to unload on you is scary. That kid hits like he weighs 210.

[lobofan1966]

Longview in a great game .

[bleedgreen]

L'view has been workin' too hard to let this one get by them. If they will begin thinking like they must win instead of they are going to win, this will not be that close. They have all the tools to make this one ugly. JT has had a great "welcome back" season, but The Lobos entered this year with destiny on their mind. I think they have something to prove going into the playoffs. Don't be surprised to see them dominate, but we will have to wait and see which Lobo team shows up.

GO PACK IN '05
what's up, brother??? just thought that i would say 'hi"...good luck to the Pack on another state title run..........

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

i thought you were going to this game?
I'm going to Rider vs. Old High------18,000 fans! I got reserve seats on the 50!!!!! LOL

[Hornified64]

tossup game tyler lee down this year what happened to them man?

BuffFan2005.....

Tyler Lee.....in order of troubled season.... difficult schedule,
poor tackling, poor blocking,turnover plagued and key injuries.

Now as for the topic at hand....I've seen both of these teams play
in 2 games each and if anyone thinks this game will be a blowout
then they will be very sadly mistaken.

John Tyler has a very stout defense....probably MORESO than the
Lobo "D". Of course, JT hasn't faced an offense with Longview's
explosiveness.

With that being said, this game will be a 4 quarter war....count on it.

I'll take Longview....winning it late.... 24-21.

[PurpleNation]

Dude... How do you know? Do you even go to our school? Well I don't think so. Its going to be worst than this year and they will not make them playoffs again probably. The QB for next year is not any good than past 2 years QB at all. I just don't think were not going to make them playoffs again. Please don't make up stuff...


I played aganst against Lee all of my years in Highschool. I have seen what they have coming up and I know Coach Owens is a mastermind. Remember he took a team in 1995 that couldnt tie there cletes up and turned them into a national power and a State tittle contender every year. Owens knows what he is doing and that QB next year Marcus Jackson is not to shabby no he is not Hill but he brings an extra weapon with his feet. Plus you have Tyler Fleet back and you have Cuba coming back. Have a little pride Red Raiders with fans like you I know why they are 3-6. Lee will be back that JV runningback is a hoss.

[Red Raiders]

I played aganst against Lee all of my years in Highschool. I have seen what they have coming up and I know Coach Owens is a mastermind. Remember he took a team in 1995 that couldnt tie there cletes up and turned them into a national power and a State tittle contender every year. Owens knows what he is doing and that QB next year Marcus Jackson is not to shabby no he is not Hill but he brings an extra weapon with his feet. Plus you have Tyler Fleet back and you have Cuba coming back. Have a little pride Red Raiders with fans like you I know why they are 3-6. Lee will be back that JV runningback is a hoss.

I understand but we just don't know, people were saying that it might even be worse and I agreed with them since Jon Williams, Preston Hill, and Jason Williams all Div-1 Caliber (I think thats right). Anyways, were not too sure but I know Owens is one of the best coach in Texas but that doesn't always matter with that but matters with the players how hard they play. 3-6 wasn't Owens Fault, It was some of the players have been lazy for sure. I don't blame them, I encourage our team to go to playoffs again and have a challenge against Tyler John Tyler next year.

[Garland02]

I have to go with Longview. Until 2 weeks ago, I thought they might march all the way to the title this year, now I am not so sure. I think alot of the good teams go thru a lull around week 7, knowing they are good, and anxious for the playoffs. They lose focus. The way JT has played this year, I think the Lobos will be wide awake for this one. Should be a great game!

[c-lisle]

BuffFan2005.....

Tyler Lee.....in order of troubled season.... difficult schedule,
poor tackling, poor blocking,turnover plagued and key injuries.

Now as for the topic at hand....I've seen both of these teams play
in 2 games each and if anyone thinks this game will be a blowout
then they will be very sadly mistaken.

John Tyler has a very stout defense....probably MORESO than the
Lobo "D". Of course, JT hasn't faced an offense with Longview's
explosiveness.

With that being said, this game will be a 4 quarter war....count on it.

I'll take Longview....winning it late.... 24-21.


Longview definately has the edge on special teams. If it comes down to a field goal to win I would go with Longview. I don't think it will though.

[Cujo]

Longview definately has the edge on special teams. If it comes down to a field goal to win I would go with Longview. I don't think it will though.
Well considering JT has yet to kick a FG this year in at least 3 attempts, I'd have to agree with you.

[Hornified64]

Longview definately has the edge on special teams. If it comes down to a field goal to win I would go with Longview. I don't think it will though.


Rclisle41....

I hope that your right....about it not coming down to a FG....but
JT is very formidable on defense....imo.

Look I'm a Longview fan/grad too and the fact Longview is at home
will be an advantage....to be sure.

Anyway....I've scanned this entire thread and unless I've missed it,
I haven't seen a score prediction from YOU....what do you say???

[MetroLobo]

Longview 31
JT 10

[bleedgreen]

Well considering JT has yet to kick a FG this year in at least 3 attempts, I'd have to agree with you.
Cujo----just want to say that i've been pulling for you guys for last couple of years now to turn it around........glad to see you back on top........also want to say that you are a very respectable poster, wish i could be??--LOL..........good luck to you guys friday night.............

[Cujo]

Cujo----just want to say that i've been pulling for you guys for last couple of years now to turn it around........glad to see you back on top........also want to say that you are a very respectable poster, wish i could be??--LOL..........good luck to you guys friday night.............
Well thanks BG :)

JT's not back on top yet, however; we still have one more test to see just how good we really are.

I hate making predictions, but since everyone else is doing it, I shall say JT will win this one in convincing fashion: 2-0 :p

Seriously though, it seems like throughout this season, whenever two VERY good defenses face off against each other, the game turns into a barnburner and the points start racking up. So I really have no idea what the score will be even though I think it'll be very close and will be won by 8 pts or less. I honestly believe the team that has the most luck on Friday will come away with the victory.


I'll be waving at you and the rest of LV's posters from across the stadium, so watch for me ;) (I just wish we were allowed a whole side to sit on, it's not fair that we have to sit in what feels like a little corner section of the stadium :p )

[pack0808]

Well considering JT has yet to kick a FG this year in at least 3 attempts, I'd have to agree with you.


Yeah JT seems to always have one of the worst special teams i have ever seen. Especially the fg kicker!! They are right up there with Ike. That could kill them in the playoffs and in this game!!

[Ohio Football Rocks]

Neither, put them together and Colerain and St. X would beat them!!! :D :D

[AllenEagle06]

Neither, put them together and Colerain and St. X would beat them!!! :D :D
:rolleyes:

[Cujo]

Neither, put them together and Colerain and St. X would beat them!!! :D :D
let's see.......

St. X beat Colerain 7-0.

Colerain beat Lee 27-12.

John Tyler beat Lee 42-7.

St. X is Ohio's #1 team, Colerain's #6 and John Tyler isn't even ranked.


yeah, Ohio football is really great!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Red Raiders]

let's see.......

St. X beat Colerain 7-0.

Colerain beat Lee 27-12.

John Tyler beat Lee 42-7.

St. X is Ohio's #1 team, Colerain's #6 and John Tyler isn't even ranked.


yeah, Ohio football is really great!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I am still upset about Kilgore beating JT because its not supposed to be like that and JT should have gone undefeated if beating Longview too.

Tyler John Tyler 23
Longview 21

[c-lisle]

Rclisle41....

I hope that your right....about it not coming down to a FG....but
JT is very formidable on defense....imo.

Look I'm a Longview fan/grad too and the fact Longview is at home
will be an advantage....to be sure.

Anyway....I've scanned this entire thread and unless I've missed it,
I haven't seen a score prediction from YOU....what do you say???


I say 31-21.

[pack0808]

I say 31-21.


That 31-21 score seems so similar to a game from last year for some reason rclisle?? ;) ;)

[c-lisle]

Yeah JT seems to always have one of the worst special teams i have ever seen. Especially the fg kicker!! They are right up there with Ike. That could kill them in the playoffs and in this game!!


I actually heard Smoaky say that JTs kicking game is pretty good with the exception of those field goals missed in the Kilgore game. It might not be as bad as we think.

[c-lisle]

That 31-21 score seems so similar to a game from last year for some reason rclisle?? ;) ;)


LOL

[Redneckn]

I'm telling you all right now.. johnTyler is going to win it... I don't know why everyone has such a hard time believing it.. Cujo is back and JT is taking it to the house...


What/who is Cujo anyway?

[BigArab]

I'm telling you all right now.. johnTyler is going to win it... I don't know why everyone has such a hard time believing it.. Cujo is back and JT is taking it to the house...


What/who is Cujo anyway?

Yet you still claim that you don't hate Longview...

[ruthless]

Is the Longview vs JT game sold out?

[BigArab]

Yes. Completely. They're going to sell hill tickets at the gate, though.

[BigArab]

I get the feeling this place is going to have 12,000 or more pack into it.

[Red Raiders]

I get the feeling this place is going to have 12,000 or more pack into it.

lol, Thats sorry... Our stadium holds 16,000 and we had a rival challenge with 13,000 seats only.

[Redneckn]

Yet you still claim that you don't hate Longview...



I don't HATE Longview...I just think that JT is going to win.. Longview will still get into the playoffs and JT will have a pretty good win on their record.
Everybody can be happy...

[gtownowlfootball06]

Longview wins 13-10 in a smashmouth running/defensive battle.

[Cujo]

What/who is Cujo anyway?
Assuming you're talking about the name/chant Cujo, and not me personally....

In 1990, Odessa Permian came to Tyler as the defending State Champion on a 17 game winning streak. Well long story short, John Tyler beat Permian, and also countered Permian's "MOJO" chant with their own "CUJO" - obviously referring to Stephen King's rabid dog (which sorta fits since JT are the Lions...... yes I know a lion is a cat :rolleyes: ). Anyway, JT went on to go to the playoffs for the first time in 5 years, and so the nickname stuck, and became the "spirit" that propelled JT to be one of the best teams in the state in the 90's. If you had seen or been a part of some of the miraculous games JT had during that era (e.g. JT/PESH 1994, JT/Waco 2000), you'd understand everything that name can embody.

[BigArab]

lol, Thats sorry... Our stadium holds 16,000 and we had a rival challenge with 13,000 seats only.

Rose doesn't hold 16,000... I don't know what you're thinking.

[BigArab]

I don't HATE Longview...I just think that JT is going to win.. Longview will still get into the playoffs and JT will have a pretty good win on their record.
Everybody can be happy...

No, I'm just reading your footer down at the bottom.

Seriously, I see with every post you undercut this team in one way or another. I know your argument is "Well, I like getting people riled up." That can only be amusing for so long. It's like watching Days of Our Lives every day to make fun of it.

[bleedgreen]

lol, Thats sorry... Our stadium holds 16,000 and we had a rival challenge with 13,000 seats only.
want to talk about "sorry"??at least we don't have to share our stadium with our cross town rivals---you get my drift?? only name in those two endzones are Lobos---no lee on one end, and no JT on the other..cappice?? and they are expecting 15 to 20 thousand tommorrow night.....the hill in the south endzone is sold out as well as the entire stadium...they will be erecting bleachers tomorrow(if they didn't do it today) in the north endzone---that's a packed house!!....Red Raiders----why so much negativity towards Longview?? i have never given Lee anything but good words.....if you are trying to live your life(or play the game tomorrow night) through JT, it's not going to work...there is no way in hell that you can change red to royal blue---unless, you mix in some green with it...and you have already got your fair share of green and royal blue this season, haven't you??--LOL...quit hating on us and YOUR OWN TEAM---i read some of your posts directed at Lee and Coach Owens(who is one of the best coaches in this country)....thank God that we don't have fans like you over here in Longview...no wonder yall were terrible this year!!..make comments (like you did against your own team)over here in Lobo Stadium like that, and you would be leaving the stadium with your teeth in your hands!! and all of this time, i thought you were a cool Lee fan?? now, i know how you really operate.....i need to go back to my 300+ thread and make a few adjustments................

[bleedgreen]

Well thanks BG :)

JT's not back on top yet, however; we still have one more test to see just how good we really are.

I hate making predictions, but since everyone else is doing it, I shall say JT will win this one in convincing fashion: 2-0 :p

Seriously though, it seems like throughout this season, whenever two VERY good defenses face off against each other, the game turns into a barnburner and the points start racking up. So I really have no idea what the score will be even though I think it'll be very close and will be won by 8 pts or less. I honestly believe the team that has the most luck on Friday will come away with the victory.


I'll be waving at you and the rest of LV's posters from across the stadium, so watch for me ;) (I just wish we were allowed a whole side to sit on, it's not fair that we have to sit in what feels like a little corner section of the stadium :p )yea, i agree Cujo...we should make the bands sit down on the track to create more room like they did this year at Texas-OU....wish we could meet some how, but i'm afraid of all of the people that will be there, it might not be possible.......have a safe trip

[bleedgreen]

want to talk about "sorry"??at least we don't have to share our stadium with our cross town rivals---you get my drift?? only name in those two endzones are Lobos---no lee on one end, and no JT on the other..cappice?? and they are expecting 15 to 20 thousand tommorrow night.....the hill in the south endzone is sold out as well as the entire stadium...they will be erecting bleachers tomorrow(if they didn't do it today) in the north endzone---that's a packed house!!....Red Raiders----why so much negativity towards Longview?? i have never given Lee anything but good words.....if you are trying to live your life(or play the game tomorrow night) through JT, it's not going to work...there is no way in hell that you can change red to royal blue---unless, you mix in some green with it...and you have already got your fair share of green and royal blue this season, haven't you??--LOL...quit hating on us and YOUR OWN TEAM---i read some of your posts directed at Lee and Coach Owens(who is one of the best coaches in this country)....thank God that we don't have fans like you over here in Longview...no wonder yall were terrible this year!!..make comments (like you did against your own team)over here in Lobo Stadium like that, and you would be leaving the stadium with your teeth in your hands!! and all of this time, i thought you were a cool Lee fan?? now, i know how you really operate.....i need to go back to my 300+ thread and make a few adjustments................oh, and one more thing, if JT does win, which they are very capable of doing, just remember this---JT won, not Lee...you were scorched to a tune of 35-7...thank goodness for you that the 2nd team played the ENTIRE second half or it would have been a hell of alot worse......plus, win or lose, we are headed to the playoffs...it's a win-win situation for Longview and JT...couldn't be any better, if i do say so myself...........

[SFAlobo]

Some Lee fans are historically known for these kinds of things, cocky and misguided. They lived in JT's showdow for so many years and they thought they were over the hump, and were the rulers of Tyler, but fate reared it's ugly head a brought them crashing back down to Earth. Histroically good programs do have off times but they don't typically don't stay down for too long. Besides people do seemed to forget what highschool they went to, you know when a team is winning.

[SFAlobo]

Some Lee fans are historically known for these kinds of things, cocky and misguided. They lived in JT's showdow for so many years and they thought they were over the hump, and were the rulers of Tyler, but fate reared it's ugly head a brought them crashing back down to Earth. Histroically good programs do have off times but they don't typically don't stay down for too long. Besides people do seemed to forget what highschool they went to, you know when a team is winning.


But this should be a great game....i think it will have a slow start with two good defensive teams....everyone has been questioning the Lobo defense but they were actually back in form last week...they are the top defense in the district. JT will score some point but not enought to keep up with LV, 27-14 Longview!!!!

[panthermaniac]

Assuming you're talking about the name/chant Cujo, and not me personally....

In 1990, Odessa Permian came to Tyler as the defending State Champion on a 17 game winning streak. Well long story short, John Tyler beat Permian, and also countered Permian's "MOJO" chant with their own "CUJO" - obviously referring to Stephen King's rabid dog (which sorta fits since JT are the Lions...... yes I know a lion is a cat :rolleyes: ). Anyway, JT went on to go to the playoffs for the first time in 5 years, and so the nickname stuck, and became the "spirit" that propelled JT to be one of the best teams in the state in the 90's. If you had seen or been a part of some of the miraculous games JT had during that era (e.g. JT/PESH 1994, JT/Waco 2000), you'd understand everything that name can embody.

I always wondered where they got the CUJO nickname. Interesting story. Congrats on a great season and best of luck tonight.

[pack0808]

I always wondered where they got the CUJO nickname. Interesting story. Congrats on a great season and best of luck tonight.


Just like teams wonder where pack comes from considering Lufkin is the panthers. We answer that 100 times a year!!

[Red Raiders]

want to talk about "sorry"??at least we don't have to share our stadium with our cross town rivals---you get my drift?? only name in those two endzones are Lobos---no lee on one end, and no JT on the other..cappice?? and they are expecting 15 to 20 thousand tommorrow night.....the hill in the south endzone is sold out as well as the entire stadium...they will be erecting bleachers tomorrow(if they didn't do it today) in the north endzone---that's a packed house!!....Red Raiders----why so much negativity towards Longview?? i have never given Lee anything but good words.....if you are trying to live your life(or play the game tomorrow night) through JT, it's not going to work...there is no way in hell that you can change red to royal blue---unless, you mix in some green with it...and you have already got your fair share of green and royal blue this season, haven't you??--LOL...quit hating on us and YOUR OWN TEAM---i read some of your posts directed at Lee and Coach Owens(who is one of the best coaches in this country)....thank God that we don't have fans like you over here in Longview...no wonder yall were terrible this year!!..make comments (like you did against your own team)over here in Lobo Stadium like that, and you would be leaving the stadium with your teeth in your hands!! and all of this time, i thought you were a cool Lee fan?? now, i know how you really operate.....i need to go back to my 300+ thread and make a few adjustments................

Hey wait... I didn't know that yall will have 15,000 to 20,000 and no one said that but you so now I know. And plus I don't have even hate my own team and really I wanted to be honest how our team is doing, not being dishonest... if you want me to be dishonest than I will do it and you will complain about it alright then? I do think Owens is the best in the country and I don't even hate my team, man I didn't even say that. I don't meant to be making negative comments but I just wanted to see more posts on the thread about this game so I can get some information like you were just telling me how many will be there. And also, I don't hate any teams in Texas and I encourage Longview to win the state because they are in our district. You just don't know what I am really in real life that I don't hate anybody, seriously nobody. I may be acting negative on the INTERNET which is not really important.

Anyways, I encourage Longview to win state and also JT. Please don't say I hate somebody and I don't at all.

[Lobo9498]

15-20,000 is a BIT steep for a Lobos home game. I don't know where bleed got those numbers....The capacity for Lobo Stadium is just under 11,000, and there were roughly 12,000 there tonight. It was a great atmosphere. JT has nothing to be ashamed of, they should give a good showing in the playoffs. We shall see how everything pans out.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

I say Longview returns back to earth and utillizes the explosiveness they had in the first 7 games.

Longview 42
JT 17

Boy....weren't you right!!! ;) Ouch!!

[Red Raiders]

15-20,000 is a BIT steep for a Lobos home game. I don't know where bleed got those numbers....The capacity for Lobo Stadium is just under 11,000, and there were roughly 12,000 there tonight. It was a great atmosphere. JT has nothing to be ashamed of, they should give a good showing in the playoffs. We shall see how everything pans out.

Yes Bleedgreen thinks he knows everything anyway, he said yall will have 15,000 to 20,000... Thats far off... lol

[JoeC]

The stadium holds just over 10,500 (that equates to approximately 5,000 plus on each side) . . . Using this as a measuring stick, there was at least another 3,500 to 4,500 sitting on the hill. There was at least 15,000 attending this game, if not more!! Pretty good croud for Lobo Stadium. :D

[Lobo9498]

I don't see how you got 3,500-4,000 on the hill. Didn't look like THAT many. It was nowhere near what we saw at SFA last year. Last year, you could NOT see the hills at all. They said 12,500 officially. There were several empty seats in the greenbacks b/c of season ticket holders that did not attend.

[Cujo]

I'll be waving at you and the rest of LV's posters from across the stadium, so watch for me ;) (I just wish we were allowed a whole side to sit on, it's not fair that we have to sit in what feels like a little corner section of the stadium :p )
I dunno what I was thinking, I guess I hadn't been to Lobo Stadium in a while. I thought the fense that seperated the LV drill team and band section was on the 50 yd line and that the visitor side was only half a field. :confused:

Oh well, it was an awesome atmosphere...... before the game started at least. It's just too bad the game didn't live up to all the hype. But it was cool to see 5,000 - 7,000 fans already there an hour before the game.

To all the Longview fans - when was the last time that stadium was that full for a regular season game?

[Lobo9498]

They moved the Viewettes the the opposite side of the band, and cut the student section in half to accomodate more visiting fans earlier this year. And, the stadium was packed last year against Lee, but we didn't have fans on the hill. That is the first time ever, i believe, that there have been people sitting on the hill.

[c-lisle]

They moved the Viewettes the the opposite side of the band, and cut the student section in half to accomodate more visiting fans earlier this year. And, the stadium was packed last year against Lee, but we didn't have fans on the hill. That is the first time ever, i believe, that there have been people sitting on the hill.


i had never seen or heard of it before

[Lobo9498]

It was cool to see them on the hill, but I'm glad I have season tickets. I don't have to sit on the hill when we're at home. I don't think they'll do it ALL the time, but at the last home game, against Rockwall, I did get to thinking if they could use the hill at times. Rockwall had a big crowd for that game too. But, not quite the size of tonight's crowd. I am just curious as to how many of those "fans" were actually fans of JT LAST year? I know some are true fans and live and die for JT football, but I highly doubt that all of those fans were Lions fans last year. They were probably Lee fans and jumped ship. Where were all of those fans when the Lions went 2-8 last year?

[BigArab]

I think the best way to solve this problem is add on. Forget the hill....think horseshoe. The small section for the Lobos bushes could stay, but other than that, Collins and Marable need to be thinking expansion. We are lightyears ahead of a lot of teams in terms of playing, but lightyears behind in terms of facilities.

[c-lisle]

It was cool to see them on the hill, but I'm glad I have season tickets. I don't have to sit on the hill when we're at home. I don't think they'll do it ALL the time, but at the last home game, against Rockwall, I did get to thinking if they could use the hill at times. Rockwall had a big crowd for that game too. But, not quite the size of tonight's crowd. I am just curious as to how many of those "fans" were actually fans of JT LAST year? I know some are true fans and live and die for JT football, but I highly doubt that all of those fans were Lions fans last year. They were probably Lee fans and jumped ship. Where were all of those fans when the Lions went 2-8 last year?

it's like that everywhere though. if lview goes 2-8 next year the band wagon fans are gone after the first or second loss.

btw I think we have some good talent that will be back next year. two dlinemen, some o linemen, rb, fb, qb. not all starters but have experience.


how good will moon be at rb? he looks good but i can't tell how fast he is.


will miles be good or not? I hope he is just learning cause he has a good arm but thrown alot of ints in his limited pt this year.

[Cujo]

It was cool to see them on the hill, but I'm glad I have season tickets. I don't have to sit on the hill when we're at home. I don't think they'll do it ALL the time, but at the last home game, against Rockwall, I did get to thinking if they could use the hill at times. Rockwall had a big crowd for that game too. But, not quite the size of tonight's crowd. I am just curious as to how many of those "fans" were actually fans of JT LAST year? I know some are true fans and live and die for JT football, but I highly doubt that all of those fans were Lions fans last year. They were probably Lee fans and jumped ship. Where were all of those fans when the Lions went 2-8 last year?
I think all the fans you saw remaining in the stands at the playing of JT's school song were their true fans and were around last year. And to be honest with you, there were A LOT more fans staying for the end of the game than I thought there would be. Maybe though this blowout loss will convince the fairweather fans to stay home for the playoffs, cause there's nothing I hate more then fans leaving before the game is over.

[BigArab]

it's like that everywhere though. if lview goes 2-8 next year the band wagon fans are gone after the first or second loss.

btw I think we have some good talent that will be back next year. two dlinemen, some o linemen, rb, fb, qb. not all starters but have experience.


how good will moon be at rb? he looks good but i can't tell how fast he is.


will miles be good or not? I hope he is just learning cause he has a good arm but thrown alot of ints in his limited pt this year.

Don't be surprised to see Aubrey Wilkerson start. He's been playing JV so he wouldn't get out of practice backing up VMac. He's supposedly the next great back next year.

[c-lisle]

Don't be surprised to see Aubrey Wilkerson start. He's been playing JV so he wouldn't get out of practice backing up VMac. He's supposedly the next great back next year.

i think aubrey would be very good also. moon will make a very good defensive player

[BigArab]

i think aubrey would be very good also. moon will make a very good defensive player

I actually haven't seen either kid play. I'm going on what I'm told by a friend of mine in Longview. He said that Wilkerson is definitely ready to tote the rock while Moon has a lot of learning to do. From listening to games, it sounds like Moon really gets stopped a lot. Sounds more like Mark Johnson is the better RB. Who knows.

Man, I really need to see a game this year. *crossing fingers for Lufkin*

[myround0]

I actually haven't seen either kid play. I'm going on what I'm told by a friend of mine in Longview. He said that Wilkerson is definitely ready to tote the rock while Moon has a lot of learning to do. From listening to games, it sounds like Moon really gets stopped a lot. Sounds more like Mark Johnson is the better RB. Who knows.

Man, I really need to see a game this year. *crossing fingers for Lufkin*

Maybe Wilkerson is the better runner, which might be why we haven't seen him this season he might be the starter next season. Maybe Moon has better speed and he might be a receiver next season.

[Lobo9498]

I think all the fans you saw remaining in the stands at the playing of JT's school song were their true fans and were around last year. And to be honest with you, there were A LOT more fans staying for the end of the game than I thought there would be. Maybe though this blowout loss will convince the fairweather fans to stay home for the playoffs, cause there's nothing I hate more then fans leaving before the game is over.

I was VERY impressed with how many JT fans were still in the stands. I know we were ahead big, but I still hate to see our home side clear out early. I stay at least until the final buzzer, and am usually walking out as the school song is being played. I hope JT's players don't take the loss too bad. They are still a very good football team, and if they come out to play Saturday, they should take care of business. They have NOTHING to be ashamed of. 2-8 last year, to 8-2 this year and District runner-up. I had figured they would at least be the 3rd place team with Longview and Lee this year. I never thought they'd be contending for the District title. The QB y'all have is very impressive. Our D just was too much for y'all. And the offense was just clicking like it was earlier in the year. Good luck in the playoffs. I hope to see all 3 12-5A teams represent well. Last year we had all three teams: Longview, Lee and Mesquite, alive in the 3rd round when Mesquite and Longview got knocked out. We know what Lee did. Should be a very interesting playoff season. The preseason and District were exciting. Playoffs could only be better.

[bleedgreen]

Maybe Wilkerson is the better runner, which might be why we haven't seen him this season he might be the starter next season. Maybe Moon has better speed and he might be a receiver next season.
Aubrey is one of my neighbors--he is no longer on the team due to disciplinary reasons--not going into it on this website......don't know if he'll return for next season..he should though...been playing JV for the last month....said Wilson wanted him to get alot more snaps and playing time rather than sitting on the sidelines with his thumbs in the air.............

[c-lisle]

I actually haven't seen either kid play. I'm going on what I'm told by a friend of mine in Longview. He said that Wilkerson is definitely ready to tote the rock while Moon has a lot of learning to do. From listening to games, it sounds like Moon really gets stopped a lot. Sounds more like Mark Johnson is the better RB. Who knows.

Man, I really need to see a game this year. *crossing fingers for Lufkin*

Moon hasn't been to impressive in his backup role, he looks timid and unsure. But I remember a unkown kid named Vondrell backing up Jerrel and he didn't look too impressive either. And we know how that one turned out. So I wouldn't be surprised to see moon turn out to be very good.

I have seen wilkerson a few times and he is bigger and looks very promising. I think he has a problem running east/west though. I remember the coaches were on his but big time in the scrimmage earlier in the year for it.


But I guess my thought don't mean much since you don't trust me Big Arab. LOL

[Big Slim]

Where has Saddler been? I thought he was having a great year at DE opposite Cody but haven't seen him playing in a while (I missed a couple games because I was away on business and noticed he wasn't playing in the last couple games).