Why was SLC vs Grapevine game so close??

[eltigre]

I know that SLC has been giving up some points there, but they've also been scoring alot also.......and, Grapevine has steadily improved, especially during the last month......but, for anyone that was there, was the game stats as close as the score??? I have to assume SLC had some players out.......or that Grapevine played their hearts out!

[ALLIN]

Both! Newton, Simpson, and Ortega were out (will be back) and GV played lights out. They were shut out in the 2nd half. Renfro caught 2 deep balls that were out of bounds, very open. Just an off night that we stilled pulled out. I am glad we got it out of our system with a win.

[dragonfootballfan]

I know that SLC has been giving up some points there, but they've also been scoring alot also.......and, Grapevine has steadily improved, especially during the last month......but, for anyone that was there, was the game stats as close as the score??? I have to assume SLC had some players out.......or that Grapevine played their hearts out!
both of the things you wrote are true, but there is more to it. This is a big rivalry game. Our stadiums are 1/5 of a mile apart. If Grapevine won this game they would seal up their playoff birth. Carroll got outplayed and Grapevine played much harder than the Dragons. Hopefully it will serve as a good wake-up call to Carroll.

[G-WHAT06]

Grapevine played their hearts out. I watched the game, and they were busting their rear - ends during the game against SLC.

I don't know, however, if there were any SLC players out of the game.

But above all, it was a good game.

[eltigre]

Good info.....sounds like when we (Katy Tigers) play Katy Taylor and Cinco Ranch....forget the records.......like one of our coaches used to say..."when you're at the top of the ladder, your butt is always exposed!"....losing to Clear Lake in OT LAST YEAR, was the best thing THIS YEAR's team could have happened to them.......never should have happened......and it still hurts.

I look for SLC to come out firing next week.....poor 'ol Richland.....gulp......

[StormingCowboy]

Imagine the confidence GV will have next week against Heritage.

[dragonsdaddy]

maybe yes and maybe not. some teams, esp big underdogs who haven't had much success recently, can light the afterburners once and play like world-beaters, only to burn up all the fuel and sag the next week.

[dragonfootballfan]

maybe yes and maybe not. some teams, esp big underdogs who haven't had much success recently, can light the afterburners once and play like world-beaters, only to burn up all the fuel and sag the next week.
I think we may be able to call this the TCU effect after beating Oklahoma in the first week of the season only to lose to SMU the next week

[slcsportsfan]

Both! Newton, Simpson, and Ortega were out (will be back) and GV played lights out. They were shut out in the 2nd half. Renfro caught 2 deep balls that were out of bounds, very open. Just an off night that we stilled pulled out. I am glad we got it out of our system with a win.


Let's hope they come back. We need a running game of some sorts by next week.

[DragonFan]

SLC come out and scored on its first possestion and the Defense was playing lights out. However the second possesion the Offense was playing well but a little to flat and tried a field goal and missed. (No Ortaga). The next series the Dragons were moving again with McElroy in. Then on 3rd down Riley Dodge comes in and throws a perfect strick to the GV defensive back that made a good play for a defesive TD for Grapevine. This play should go a long way to the maturation of Riley! Grapevine then had a spark and took it to the Dragons who were a little shocked! Grapevine went ahead 21-14 and stopped a driving Dragons with an interseption late in the 2nd quarter and went into the half ahead 21-14.

SLC came out the second half and totally dominated the first part of the 3rd quarter getting 2 quick TD's and totally stopping GV's offense. Then the Carroll offense got cute again and let GV regain momentium. The Carroll Defense had to win this game because the Offense was not very consistant or playing well. The defense did seal the game and the Dragons were able to stay unbeaten and made GV have to win next week to get into the playoffs.

The stats are all in the Dragons favor but the Dragon Offense scored 9 points for Grapevine! Take away the 9 points and it is another 28 - 14 or worse with the Dragons winning by 14+ points.

Grapevine played very well but will have to play as well to stop CHHS. Good luck to all!

[SLCDad]

I believe the loss of the starting running back, FG/kick-off kicker and starting corner back had a significant impact on the game. When that is combined with the mental aspects of the game, the game that was expected by many to be a blow-out ended up being close. Grapevine was at home and was clearly motivated to play the #1 team. SLC was out of sync (with all of the SLC/Trinity hype were they looking ahead?). SLC and was without any FG threat nor a significant running threat. SLC had 3 turnovers with one being an interception return for a touchdown. In term of yards gained, SLC outgained Grapevine almost 2 to 1.

Here is the box score:

Statistic..............SLC..........GRA
First downs...........24..............15
Rushing yards......33-83...........5--6
Passing yards........396............255
Total Yards...........479............249
Comp-att-int........29-46-2......28-46-1
Punts-avg............3-30.0........9-33.3
Penalties-yards......8-65..........5-45
Fumbles-lost..........2-1...........0-0

INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing – SLC: Riley Dodge 6-45, Greg McElroy 14-38, Matt Moorefield 12-33. GRA: Jacob Actkinson 10-7, Brad Fawcett 3-1, Brandon Smiley 1-1, Steven Headley 1-(-15).
Passing – SLC: Greg McElroy 28-44-1-379, Riley Dodge 1-2-1-17. GRA: Steven Headley 28-46-1-255.
Receiving – SLC: McKay Jacobson 12-189, James Allen 6-66, Riley Dodge 4-62, Evan Fentriss 4-49, Clint Renfro 2-21, Corbin Smiter 1-9. GRA: Cody Conover 9-96, Taylor Wardlow 10-87, Brad Fawcett 7-55, Chris Stephenson 1-13, Jacob Actkinson 2-4.

[implacable44]

I believe the loss of the starting running back, FG/kick-off kicker and starting corner back had a significant impact on the game. When that is combined with the mental aspects of the game, the game that was expected by many to be a blow-out ended up being close. Grapevine was at home and was clearly motivated to play the #1 team. SLC was out of sync (with all of the SLC/Trinity hype were they looking ahead?). SLC and was without any FG threat nor a significant running threat. SLC had 3 turnovers with one of them being an interception return for a touchdown. In term of yards gained, SLC outgained Grapevine almost 2 to 1.

Here is the box score:

Statistic..............SLC..........GRA
First downs...........24..............15
Rushing yards......33-83...........5--6
Passing yards........396............255
Total Yards...........479............249
Comp-att-int........29-46-2......28-46-1
Punts-avg............3-30.0........9-33.3
Penalties-yards......8-65..........5-45
Fumbles-lost..........2-1...........0-0

INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing – SLC: Riley Dodge 6-45, Greg McElroy 14-38, Matt Moorefield 12-33. GRA: Jacob Actkinson 10-7, Brad Fawcett 3-1, Brandon Smiley 1-1, Steven Headley 1-(-15).
Passing – SLC: Greg McElroy 28-44-1-379, Riley Dodge 1-2-1-17. GRA: Steven Headley 28-46-1-255.
Receiving – SLC: McKay Jacobson 12-189, James Allen 6-66, Riley Dodge 4-62, Evan Fentriss 4-49, Clint Renfro 2-21, Corbin Smiter 1-9. GRA: Cody Conover 9-96, Taylor Wardlow 10-87, Brad Fawcett 7-55, Chris Stephenson 1-13, Jacob Actkinson 2-4.

I expected more honest and sincere replies from the SLC faithful than these that I am seeing. Why can't it be that Grapevine forced turnovers? That Grapevine moved the ball well and scored against a good defense ? Why is it because SLC played bad - blah blah blah - that sounds whiny to me. Grapevine played well and forced the game - they took it-- nothing was given to them. I don't want to hear about injuries either - this is SLC remember ? the machine and winners don't make excuses - they just win - like SLC did - so stop with the excuses - why was the game so close you ask on the thread? - it was so close because Grapevine made it close with their play and their effort. Another 4th quarter INT saved the day for the Dragons - seems to be a trademark.

[SLCDad]

I expected more honest and sincere replies from the SLC faithful than these that I am seeing. Why can't it be that Grapevine forced turnovers? That Grapevine moved the ball well and scored against a good defense ? Why is it because SLC played bad - blah blah blah - that sounds whiny to me. Grapevine played well and forced the game - they took it-- nothing was given to them. I don't want to hear about injuries either - this is SLC remember ? the machine and winners don't make excuses - they just win - like SLC did - so stop with the excuses - why was the game so close you ask on the thread? - it was so close because Grapevine made it close with their play and their effort. Another 4th quarter INT saved the day for the Dragons - seems to be a trademark.Of course, Implac, we can never expect you to give SLC or any of it's fans the benefit of the doubt whatsoever.

No doubt Grapevine was very motived and took the game to SLC. Having said that, the loss of key SLC players had an impact. The path to 56-1 isn't always easy.

Yes, yes, yes. Some controversy!!! All of the civility on this board has been a bit boring.

[lonny23]

I'm not ready to place a lot of stock in this game. It can be the sign of a greater problem or just one bad week. We'll start to find out what the deal is. .

[SLCDad]

I'm not ready to place a lot of stock in this game. It can be the sign of a greater problem or just one bad week. We'll start to find out what the deal is. .SLC will need a running and kicking game to advance in the playoffs.

[lonny23]

SLC will need a running and kicking game to advance in the playoffs.
That's very true. They won't win without shoring up those areas.

[implacable44]

Of course, Implac, we can never expect you to give SLC or any of it's fans the benefit of the doubt whatsoever.

No doubt Grapevine was very motived and took the game to SLC. Having said that, the loss of key SLC players had an impact. The path to 56-1 isn't always easy.

Yes, yes, yes. Some controversy!!! All of the civility on this board has been a bit boring.

You never expect me to give SLC or its' fans the benefit of the doubt ? - I can refer you to numerous posts of mine where I do just that and you know several fans that I speak face-to-face and offer the same praises --I have to wonder how you could make such a comment as this one Gadianton ?

[SLCDad]

You never expect me to give SLC or its' fans the benefit of the doubt ? - I can refer you to numerous posts of mine where I do just that and you know several fans that I speak face-to-face and offer the same praises --I have to wonder how you could make such a comment as this one Gadianton ?It's just that you consistently interpret most things that SLC fans say in a negative light. On occasion you resort to same calling (see above).

[implacable44]

It's just that you consistently interpret most things that SLC fans say in a negative light. On occasion you resort to same calling (see above).

I disagree -- I take the absurd comments many SLC Posters make and critique them - the comments I view as absurd - I also defend SLC to the absurd comments that are made against the program. I bet nobody buy you knows who Gadianton or Coriantumr is.

[dragonfootballfan]

I expected more honest and sincere replies from the SLC faithful than these that I am seeing. Why can't it be that Grapevine forced turnovers? That Grapevine moved the ball well and scored against a good defense ? Why is it because SLC played bad - blah blah blah - that sounds whiny to me. Grapevine played well and forced the game - they took it-- nothing was given to them. I don't want to hear about injuries either - this is SLC remember ? the machine and winners don't make excuses - they just win - like SLC did - so stop with the excuses - why was the game so close you ask on the thread? - it was so close because Grapevine made it close with their play and their effort. Another 4th quarter INT saved the day for the Dragons - seems to be a trademark.
did you read my post. Did you read my post about dropping Carroll from number one in the top ten thread. I did not make excuses.

[implacable44]

nope i didn't see that and if you did do that - then i applaud you.

[Favpack]

Implac's actually got a pretty good take on this one. When a top 5 team loses or wins on a last play int., nobody wants to hear who was hurt, how dominant the stats were, or how fortunate a team was to be in contention based on some weird bounces, etc. I've been on both sides of that fence. At the same time I do understand that people try to give reasons why a team did not dominate when maybe they should have.

But, does anyone on this forum give a rip when teams are decimated by injuries? Not much if at all.

As Drgnbkr stated, SLC was tested mightily Fri. night based on a host of reasons - and they came through with a W. Hats off to them.

Without starting anything, I will state, however, that many SLC posters here rarely get outside the context of SLC. It's -- we didn't rush the ball because we didn't have Tre - when in reality maybe the D was just playing lights out and they wanted it more.

I remember one poster last year from SLC stated Abilene High had to resort to "on side kicks and other trickery" to make it close. LOL -as if those types of plays are illegal or lame. Let's face it -- anytime you start giving reasons why you lost or barely won -- if you're not focusing on the opponent's efforts it may likely come out as lame.

[slcgrad]

I disagree -- I take the absurd comments many SLC Posters make and critique them - the comments I view as absurd - I also defend SLC to the absurd comments that are made against the program. I bet nobody buy you knows who Gadianton or Coriantumr is.

Thank you, Thank you, for being the SLC gatekeeper! We certainly appreciate you keeping us all straight. :p Of course, your comments are always fair and unbiased.

Gadianton hmmm, I think of SLC is more like the sons of Helaman . . . ;)

[SLCDad]

I disagree -- I take the absurd comments many SLC Posters make and critique them - the comments I view as absurd - I also defend SLC to the absurd comments that are made against the program. . . .Do you grasp how arrogant that is?

[implacable44]

Thank you, Thank you, for being the SLC gatekeeper! We certainly appreciate you keeping us all straight. :p Of course, your comments are always fair and unbiased.

Gadianton hmmm, I think of SLC is more like the sons of Helaman . . . ;)

the sons of heleman ? who are you referring to ?? the stripling warriors ? They were not all the sons of Heleman.

[southlake thug]

who cares. We won.

[implacable44]

Do you grasp how arrogant that is?


that was arrogant ? holy cow - if I keep on this path I will become a full fledged SLC dragon supporter just like the rest of you -- Here I am accussed of arrogance = tomorrow someone can call me pompous or snobby and then i will evolve to being irrational claiming myself as the best poster in the world after only one season - kind of like being the best 5a program ever on the entire planet after a few seasons - yes I will become a Dragon faithful apologist soon!

[implacable44]

who cares. We won.

i would prefer the attitude of thug life here over " tre didn't play" "ortega was hurt" etc...

[slcgrad]

the sons of heleman ? who are you referring to ?? the stripling warriors ? They were not all the sons of Heleman.

No not literal sons, see Al. 56 10 and 17 . . .

[implacable44]

hence the song says : we are as the ARMY of heleman - not the sons. the sons or stripling warriors who credited their mamas for their valiant and brave effort. - nobody refers tot them as the sons of heleman - did you flunk seminary ?

[SLCDad]

Implac, I think I need to call your better half again. I don't think she would be pleased with you today.

[eltigre]

Kids! Kids! that's quite enough.....no more whining and accusing.....please...
everyone has their opinion and I respect those that were at the game to state the facts as they saw them......I have noticed that SLC is giving up more pts this year, but they have also been scoring lots of points.
Injuries are a fact and sometimes they happen......you just hope and pray for speedy recoveries, especially if you don't have depth at the skill positions and kicking game, which appears to be the case with SLC this year.......

SLC are still the State Champion and until someone beats them, in the playoffs, they will be State Champs......some teams lose 1 or 2 times in District, still make the playoffs, and them peak at the right time.....
it's not how you start, it's how you finish!!! I truly expect SLC to be in the State Finals, again....and I don't know or care if it's D1 or D1......I've seen them play, I know their coach, and I've had many conversations with many of their fans......they are a winning program that EXPECTS to win it all, every year...........just like the Katy Tigers! whoya!!!!

[rich_pack]

I think SLC will be ok

[SLCDad]

Implac's actually got a pretty good take on this one. When a top 5 team loses or wins on a last play int., nobody wants to hear who was hurt, how dominant the stats were, or how fortunate a team was to be in contention based on some weird bounces, etc. I've been on both sides of that fence. At the same time I do understand that people try to give reasons why a team did not dominate when maybe they should have.

But, does anyone on this forum give a rip when teams are decimated by injuries? Not much if at all.Posters on this forum may not care about injuries, but perhaps they should. No excuses, but injuries can make a real difference.

The kicking game is huge both in terms of field position and as a scoring threat. The loss of Ortega is huge to SLC and it had an impact on Friday. Ortega was the difference maker in the 2004 finals and he no doubt he will have an important impact in the playoffs in 2005.

In SLC's case, the loss of their starting running back is very significant. Without a good running back, SLC's offense becomes much more one dimensional. If they can run the ball effectively, their passing game is dominate enough to beat anybody. Without the run, they are vulnerable.

You may discount injuries, but they make a real difference. Without Ortega and Newton, SLC's chances are greatly reduced. SLC could compensate for a WR injury, but injuries to the starting RB and Kicker are much more difficult to over come.

No disrespect to Grapevine. They played great and they earned a close game. However, injuries played a role in the outcome of that game.

[dragonfootballfan]

I think that everyone is forgetting that both starting corners were out. This is a huge impact because one of the more versatile wide receivers was moved to corner when his twin brother (I don't want to say the names because I always mix them up) went down with an injury earlier in the year. Had both corners still been playing I expect they would have moved the wide receiver to running back when Newton was unable to play.

[implacable44]

Posters on this forum may not care about injuries, but perhaps they should. No excuses, but injuries can make a real difference.

The kicking game is huge both in terms of field position and as a scoring threat. The loss of Ortega is huge to SLC and it had an impact on Friday. Ortega was the difference maker in the 2004 finals and he no doubt he will have an important impact in the playoffs in 2005.

In SLC's case, the loss of their starting running back is very significant. Without a good running back, SLC's offense becomes much more one dimensional. If they can run the ball effectively, their passing game is dominate enough to beat anybody. Without the run, they are vulnerable.

You may discount injuries, but they make a real difference. Without Ortega and Newton, SLC's chances are greatly reduced. SLC could compensate for a WR injury, but injuries to the starting RB and Kicker are much more difficult to over come.

No disrespect to Grapevine. They played great and they earned a close game. However, injuries played a role in the outcome of that came.

why ? go for it on fourth down - go for 2-point conversions. I can cite numerous threads in here discussing the greatness of that offense and how Nobody in the world can stop it. Not to mention - shouldn't a coach as great as Dodge have the next kicker lined up and ready to go ? that is after all " the program" isn't it ?

as far as Newton - please post the rushing yardage for SLC this year - I would be interested to see the difference - I mean I keep hearing how great a runner Riley is and not to mention Mcelroy has had a few quality rushing games - Lets take a look at the rushing leaders for SLC this year and see how it breaks down.

[Sakatha]

BTW -

In Riley's defense, that wasn't his fault.

That slot-screen, if called to go to the slot back, is to be thrown immediately after the snap. No way could Riley have seen that safety cheating up. It was simply a great play on defense.

~DnM

[slcgrad]

hence the song says : we are as the ARMY of heleman - not the sons. the sons or stripling warriors who credited their mamas for their valiant and brave effort. - nobody refers tot them as the sons of heleman - did you flunk seminary ?

Nope, but maybe you should learn to spell HELAMAN! Maybe you should have gone to the Y . . . :)

[SLCDad]

why ? go for it on fourth down - go for 2-point conversions. I can cite numerous threads in here discussing the greatness of that offense and how Nobody in the world can stop it. Not to mention - shouldn't a coach as great as Dodge have the next kicker lined up and ready to go ? that is after all " the program" isn't it ?

as far as Newton - please post the rushing yardage for SLC this year - I would be interested to see the difference - I mean I keep hearing how great a runner Riley is and not to mention Mcelroy has had a few quality rushing games - Lets take a look at the rushing leaders for SLC this year and see how it breaks down.Wow. How do you respond to this foolishness?

[implacable44]

what ? it wasn't his fault ? who threw the ball ? -- oh yeah - remember that touchdown pass he had a few weeks back - that wasn't his CREDIT - it was a terribly thrown pass and the credit goes to the receiver - and remember that touchdown run he had - well that is not to his credit either because the defensive guy slipped or he would have had him behind the line so take that TD away too - and oh yeah that one catch for a TD in the corner that mckay had - we can't credit that to him becuase the DB totally miscalculated his jump on the ball and so that is not really mckays TD rather the guy gave it up. -- THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT --

[implacable44]

Wow. How do you respond to this foolishness?

post the running numbers - let me see them - and how is it foolish to go for it on 4th down when you dont have a field goal kicker - SLC goes for it on 4th down a few times a game already don't they ?

[implacable44]

Wow. How do you respond to this foolishness?

I guess the same way I respond to your stupidity - just do it -

post the running numbers - let me see them - and how is it foolish to go for it on 4th down when you dont have a field goal kicker - SLC goes for it on 4th down a few times a game already don't they ?

[Sakatha]

what ? it wasn't his fault ? who threw the ball ? -- oh yeah - remember that touchdown pass he had a few weeks back - that wasn't his CREDIT - it was a terribly thrown pass and the credit goes to the receiver - and remember that touchdown run he had - well that is not to his credit either because the defensive guy slipped or he would have had him behind the line so take that TD away too - and oh yeah that one catch for a TD in the corner that mckay had - we can't credit that to him becuase the DB totally miscalculated his jump on the ball and so that is not really mckays TD rather the guy gave it up. -- THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT --

Uh, I am confused.

I was explaining that play call. Which resulted in the INT and subsequent TD. What is the 'THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT' thing?

~DnM

p.s. I surely don't think Riley is perfect. He looks to run too much, he throws questionable balls, but this one wasn't one of em.

[dragonfootballfan]

Uh, I am confused.

I was explaining that play call. Which resulted in the INT and subsequent TD. What is the 'THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT' thing?

~DnM

p.s. I surely don't think Riley is perfect. He looks to run too much, he throws questionable balls, but this one wasn't one of em.
I saw the play and to me it looked like it was a sophomore mistake. He looked before he threw the ball and the defender was right there. He could have pulled the ball down and either ran or even just thrown it away. He will learn from this mistake and hopefully will not do it again.

[Sakatha]

Could be, but I've seen that play run 500x over the years, and it's always run the same way.

Snap.. QB doesn't even peek anywhere other than Slot, throw the ball..

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Green people..why in the world would any of you ever respond to plac44? Look at this thread, which is replete with examples of his foolishness..Why subject yourself? Grapevine played an inspired game, had an outstanding defensive game plan, we won...next?

[dragonfootballfan]

Could be, but I've seen that play run 500x over the years, and it's always run the same way.

Snap.. QB doesn't even peek anywhere other than Slot, throw the ball..

~DnM
The quarterback always looks before he throws. I also have seen it thrown many times over the past 5 1/2 years. He should not have thrown that ball.

[slcdragons]

On Riley's INT, the blocker for the Dragons didn't block very well and the db for Grapevine played off the block(or lack thereof) and stepped right in front of the slot receiver and waltzed into the endzone !!! :eek:

[dragonsdaddy]

The quarterback always looks before he throws. I also have seen it thrown many times over the past 5 1/2 years. He should not have thrown that ball.
if it was a bubble screen, it is not a read. the qb could possibly see that it is not open, but not always. if the safety guess right, it can be disasterous.

[SLCDad]

post the running numbers - let me see them - and how is it foolish to go for it on 4th down when you dont have a field goal kicker - SLC goes for it on 4th down a few times a game already don't they ?Do your own research! That would be a first.

[SLC13]

The quarterback always looks before he throws. I also have seen it thrown many times over the past 5 1/2 years. He should not have thrown that ball.
I agree, he was too slow in delivering the ball & telegraphed the pass.......

[Sakatha]

if it was a bubble screen, it is not a read. the qb could possibly see that it is not open, but not always. if the safety guess right, it can be disasterous.

Yes, it was a bubble screen.

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

if it was a bubble screen, it is not a read. the qb could possibly see that it is not open, but not always. if the safety guess right, it can be disasterous.

Did'nt see you at the game..did you go out west?

[dragonsdaddy]

i snuck off to the deer lease and ended up at another acu win. they've beaten top 20 teams soundly 2 weeks running. middle son got a block on a punt return that little bro would have been proud of. i think he got more pleasure out of that than just about any pass he's ever caught.

[Favpack]

i snuck off to the deer lease and ended up at another acu win. they've beaten top 20 teams soundly 2 weeks running. middle son got a block on a punt return that little bro would have been proud of. i think he got more pleasure out of that than just about any pass he's ever caught.
Yep - - always love it when the Wildcats whip up on A&I (A&M Kingsville) -- good win DD. Likely a 1-2% chance this happens - but would love to see T. Potts from AHS reconsider ACU over TexasTech now that Mc is going out west to Raiderland.

[dragonsdaddy]

dang it, you read my mind. i've been voicing this fervent wish to my friends and family too. that would be a dream come true.

[drgnbkr]

dang it, you read my mind. i've been voicing this fervent wish to my friends and family too. that would be a dream come true.

I hear Potts has gone soft on TTech... :confused:

[southlake thug]

He is just scared of McElroy. How could you blame him though?

[implacable44]

Green people..why in the world would any of you ever respond to plac44? Look at this thread, which is replete with examples of his foolishness..Why subject yourself? Grapevine played an inspired game, had an outstanding defensive game plan, we won...next?


everytime you post it is replete with the diarrhea that spews from your mouth. I think you or the daddy might be the biggest offenders on this board - bunch of pompous folks.

and slcdad - why would i do research when i can count on your bias "facts" that you the self-proclaimed guru propose -

needless to say I heard the QB from Highland Park is the #1 QB in the nation ??

[the_great_state_of_TExas]

everytime you post it is replete with the diarrhea that spews from your mouth. I think you or the daddy might be the biggest offenders on this board - bunch of pompous folks.

and slcdad - why would i do research when i can count on your bias "facts" that you the self-proclaimed guru propose -

needless to say I heard the QB from Highland Park is the #1 QB in the nation ??


I found the best way to deal with Mr. Diarrhea (aka - implacable44) is to block his entries for your account. His points are subversive and self-serving so there is need to view his posts.

[ALLIN]

I did the same thing great state. Works wonders for idiots on the board

[implacable44]

I found the best way to deal with Mr. Diarrhea (aka - implacable44) is to block his entries for you account. His points are subversive and self-serving so there is need to view his posts.

then why are you responding ? self serving ? how can a post about highschool football be self-serving? What in the world do I get out of it ? learn how to spell and then come back to the board when you get some courage.

you should block yourself all in. then we would all be better off.