San Antonio Top Ten for 10-31-05

[bubbacoach]

1. Clemens- Still holds the top spot. Noone has beaten them yet. Should have an easy go of it against Seguin this week. Will be just fine in the playoffs if they can get past week one. Hope Henry is going to make full recovery and have much success in college.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits atop 26-5A. Coming off a big victroy over Madison the Rangers will play Roosevelt this week. Should be a small bump in their prep for the play-offs. If they can get past week one in the play-offs they will cruise to the semi'final before being tested again.
3. San Marcos- Sits in second in 25-5A. Might as well have a bye this weeka s they start preparing for the playoffs. If they can get past round one, look for them in the semi-finals.
4. Madison-Coming off a loss to Smithson Valley. Already locked up a spot in the playoffs. If they get past first round look for them in the semi's. Two of the top four teams should match up in the quarterfinals.
5. O'Connor-Still rolling through 27-5A. Toughest test in district this week against Jay. Jay plays some salty defense, but O'Connors discipline and execution should give them the edge.
6. Clark-Clark has also knotted up a playoff spot with their win over Marshall. Clark will probably lose out of the play-offs when they face SA again.
7. Jay-Will have their hands full against O'Connor this week. Their defense will keep this game close. The question is can their offense get the job done against a improving O'Connor Defense.
8. Reagan-Sealed the deal on their first winning season by smacking Churchill. Should make the playoffs with a win or a lose against Judson. Will have to be blown out by Judson to not get in.
9. Seguin-Locked up a playoff spot in 25-5A. That district should be called Clemens, San Marcos, and the also rans. Proved to be the best of the bad getting third place. Look for Clemens to beat them and then them lose out in round one.
10. Judson-Still have an outside chance, but must dismantle a good Reagan team to do it. I have seen crazier things happen. Will be pulling for the Rockets, but as realist I know there is not much of a chance.

All the top ten teams have either secured a spot in the playoffs or playing each other for the last spot this weekend. As always, the toughest teams they will see before the Semi-finals are all located in San Antonio. 27-5A should have no problem with the CC schools. The real games will be in round 1 when 25 and 26 go head to head.

Have fun with them. Give me your input, but realize I am right and this is the best top ten in the SA are.

[mad_fan]

If I've said it once....Madison #7 :cool:

[bubbacoach]

You don't think they are better than the 27-5A teams?

[mad_fan]

Same reasoning as last time we played this...except they've lost a game since then. ;)

[SeguinMatadors]

If I've said it once....Madison #7 :cool:

Mad is better than any 27 team.

[lonny23]

If I've said it once....Madison #7 :cool:
Works for me!

[lonny23]

Mad is better than any 27 team.
Yep. They might not pay like it, though.

[bubbacoach]

That would put them behing O'Connor, Clark, And Jay. With the trio of Green, Guy, and Caflisch MAdison could score on any play, even a broken play. They may be the best trio in the backfield in the SA area. And I do not see anyone behind them in the top ten that could beat them. They are the fourth best team in SA.

[SeguinMatadors]

1. Clemens- Still holds the top spot. Noone has beaten them yet. Should have an easy go of it against Seguin this week. Will be just fine in the playoffs if they can get past week one. Hope Henry is going to make full recovery and have much success in college.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits atop 26-5A. Coming off a big victroy over Madison the Rangers will play Roosevelt this week. Should be a small bump in their prep for the play-offs. If they can get past week one in the play-offs they will cruise to the semi'final before being tested again.
3. San Marcos- Sits in second in 25-5A. Might as well have a bye this weeka s they start preparing for the playoffs. If they can get past round one, look for them in the semi-finals.
4. Madison-Coming off a loss to Smithson Valley. Already locked up a spot in the playoffs. If they get past first round look for them in the semi's. Two of the top four teams should match up in the quarterfinals.
5. O'Connor-Still rolling through 27-5A. Toughest test in district this week against Jay. Jay plays some salty defense, but O'Connors discipline and execution should give them the edge.
6. Clark-Clark has also knotted up a playoff spot with their win over Marshall. Clark will probably lose out of the play-offs when they face SA again.
7. Jay-Will have their hands full against O'Connor this week. Their defense will keep this game close. The question is can their offense get the job done against a improving O'Connor Defense.
8. Reagan-Sealed the deal on their first winning season by smacking Churchill. Should make the playoffs with a win or a lose against Judson. Will have to be blown out by Judson to not get in.
9. Seguin-Locked up a playoff spot in 25-5A. That district should be called Clemens, San Marcos, and the also rans. Proved to be the best of the bad getting third place. Look for Clemens to beat them and then them lose out in round one.
10. Judson-Still have an outside chance, but must dismantle a good Reagan team to do it. I have seen crazier things happen. Will be pulling for the Rockets, but as realist I know there is not much of a chance.

All the top ten teams have either secured a spot in the playoffs or playing each other for the last spot this weekend. As always, the toughest teams they will see before the Semi-finals are all located in San Antonio. 27-5A should have no problem with the CC schools. The real games will be in round 1 when 25 and 26 go head to head.

Have fun with them. Give me your input, but realize I am right and this is the best top ten in the SA are.

Overall, not bad. Jay should be over Clark. Seguin is better than Reagan, Clark, and maybe Jay; seeing as how this is just a power ranking and you are a fan that is going to take a week or two to be enlightened by Seguin, I understand!

[lonny23]

Overall, not bad. Jay should be over Clark. Seguin is better than Reagan, Clark, and maybe Jay; seeing as how this is just a power ranking and you are a fan that is going to take a week or two to be enlightened by Seguin, I understand!
I see Seguin getting lit up.

[bubbacoach]

Overall, not bad. Jay should be over Clark. Seguin is better than Reagan, Clark, and maybe Jay; seeing as how this is just a power ranking and you are a fan that is going to take a week or two to be enlightened by Seguin, I understand!
Clark beat Jay. I know Seguin lost to SM, who is their other lose to. I can't remember?

[SeguinMatadors]

Clark beat Jay. I know Seguin lost to SM, who is their other lose to. I can't remember?

Canyon :mad: . That game still gets to me!

[SeguinMatadors]

I see Seguin getting lit up.

I see lonny eating his words.

[bubbacoach]

Canyon :mad: . That game still gets to me!
They lost to a 4A team and you still are talking mess. A good 4A team, but still a 4A team. It was a blowout wasn't it?

[bubbacoach]

I see lonny eating his words.
Crow can be very good meal, but I see him eating a steak and drinking a DP instead.

[SeguinMatadors]

They lost to a 4A team and you still are talking mess. A good 4A team, but still a 4A team. It was a blowout wasn't it?

No, Seguin had the lead in the fourth quater. They throw a pick, Canyon takes it back. Seguin fumbles, Wilke (one hell of a RB) breaks out; game over. Seguin was controling that game, had that game, and lose the game.

[lonny23]

I see lonny eating his words.
Hey, it's the risk I run. I know people will remind me...A LOT! :D

[TxLawDawg]

Your list looks very good, I just still have a hard time giving Clemens the top spot. No offense Clemens, but I just don't think your competition has been as tough as Smithson Valley's. Plus, SV is a proven title contender and is battle-tested in one of the toughest districts in the State. I understand SC is unbeaten and therefore it's tough not to put them on top, but I also think Clemens and San Marcos will both be going home after bi-district. That's just my two cents.

Cue the SC "lack of respect" posts...

[lonny23]

Crow can be very good meal, but I see him eating a steak and drinking a DP instead.
I need to get one now, but I'll stick around a little longer.

[lonny23]

No, Seguin had the lead in the fourth quater. They throw a pick, Canyon takes it back. Seguin fumbles, Wilke (one hell of a RB) breaks out; game over. Seguin was controling that game, had that game, and lose the game.
The 4th is when you have to play your best. You condition yourself to physically and mentally wear the other team down.

[lonny23]

Your list looks very good, I just still have a hard time giving Clemens the top spot. No offense Clemens, but I just don't think your competition has been as tough as Smithson Valley's. Plus, SV is a proven title contender and is battle-tested in one of the toughest districts in the State. I understand SC is unbeaten and therefore it's tough not to put them on top, but I also think Clemens and San Marcos will both be going home after bi-district. That's just my two cents.

Cue the SC "lack of respect" posts...
Oh, you're going to get them. I won't complain one bit if we have another 26-5A sweep like last year.

[bubbacoach]

Your list looks very good, I just still have a hard time giving Clemens the top spot. No offense Clemens, but I just don't think your competition has been as tough as Smithson Valley's. Plus, SV is a proven title contender and is battle-tested in one of the toughest districts in the State. I understand SC is unbeaten and therefore it's tough not to put them on top, but I also think Clemens and San Marcos will both be going home after bi-district. That's just my two cents.

Cue the SC "lack of respect" posts...
I can see your point, but you gotta beat them to take them out.

[SeguinMatadors]

The 4th is when you have to play your best. You condition yourself to physically and mentally wear the other team down.

Lonny, I am not a moron.

[bubbacoach]

Lonny did not call you a moron, but to disagree with Lonny, if you are playing a good team you better be playing your best for all four quarters.

[SeguinMatadors]

Oh, you're going to get them. I won't complain one bit if we have another 26-5A sweep like last year.

25 is going to take 2 of 3 in the first round and become the dominate district of the SA area. Hell, if somehow Clemens gets SV (don't know if this is possible), 25 might make it a clean sweep.

[SeguinMatadors]

Lonny did not call you a moron, but to disagree with Lonny, if you are playing a good team you better be playing your best for all four quarters.

I know, just a saying because he was stating the obvious... kinda like the saying "duh".

[bubbacoach]

I am laughing so hard I might choke. 25-5A the dominate district in SA (still laughing) Just cause two teams are good does not make you the dominate district.

[lonny23]

Lonny, I am not a moron.
OK. I said nothing to the sort. :D

[sendero]

25 is going to take 2 of 3 in the first round and become the dominate district of the SA area. Hell, if somehow Clemens gets SV (don't know if this is possible), 25 might make it a clean sweep.

Clemens can get SV if they finish below Madison in the final standings with an SV loss and Madison win this week.

[lonny23]

Lonny did not call you a moron, but to disagree with Lonny, if you are playing a good team you better be playing your best for all four quarters.
Yes, you're right. You have to play good for all 4 quarters against a top team. He said they were in control of a game and lost it in the 4th and I wanted to say you have to take it up a notch. A bad 4th quarter is not an excuse to throw around.

[bubbacoach]

Clemens does not want SV. It would be a very good game and could go either way, but if I were Clemens, I would want Madison, because of their defense.

[SeguinMatadors]

I am laughing so hard I might choke. 25-5A the dominate district in SA (still laughing) Just cause two teams are good does not make you the dominate district.

lol, thought you would get a kick out of that. However 25 sure will look like the dominate district if they wipe 26 out in the first round.

[lonny23]

25 is going to take 2 of 3 in the first round and become the dominate district of the SA area. Hell, if somehow Clemens gets SV (don't know if this is possible), 25 might make it a clean sweep.
25 will dominate if they recruit some teams from another district because they sure won't do it with the current residents. You better get a couple divorces and remarriages to look a little more beautiful.

[lonny23]

Clemens does not want SV. It would be a very good game and could go either way, but if I were Clemens, I would want Madison, because of their defense.
You're right on the money.

[bubbacoach]

25-5a is like a fat girl with a pretty face. Once, you get past the face there ain't much else.

[SeguinMatadors]

Clemens does not want SV. It would be a very good game and could go either way, but if I were Clemens, I would want Madison, because of their defense.

I agree. Everyone wants the easy game in round 1. I think if they did meet up, Clemens would win a close one.

[SeguinMatadors]

25-5a is like a fat girl with a pretty face. Once, you get past the face there ain't much else.

Lmao.

[SeguinMatadors]

25 will dominate if they recruit some teams from another district because they sure won't do it with the current residents. You better get a couple divorces and remarriages to look a little more beautiful.

Man Lonny, you are going to be too much fun if I am right and you are wrong.

[bubbacoach]

Who would be the fourth team out of 25-5A if we had four teams this year? Did ya'll see in the Corpus district a team that is giving up more points than they score and might have a below .500 record is probably going to make the playoffs?

[lonny23]

25-5a is like a fat girl with a pretty face. Once, you get past the face there ain't much else.
Great analogy.

[lonny23]

I agree. Everyone wants the easy game in round 1. I think if they did meet up, Clemens would win a close one.
You mean like Seguin! :p

[SeguinMatadors]

Who would be the fourth team out of 25-5A if we had four teams this year? Did ya'll see in the Corpus district a team that is giving up more points than they score and might have a below .500 record is probably going to make the playoffs?

Probably EastCentral. No, I didn't see that. Thay is like the eastern conference when the Celtics ( I think it was the celtics) made the playoffs with a losing record.

[lonny23]

Man Lonny, you are going to be too much fun if I am right and you are wrong.
That's perfectly fine with me. I've said stuff before that didn't come to pass.

[SeguinMatadors]

You mean like Seguin! :p

I was waiting for that.

[SeguinMatadors]

That's perfectly fine with me. I've said stuff before that didn't come to pass.

Yes, I remember how good you thought Judson was before, and in the middle, of the season. LOL at that!

[lonny23]

Who would be the fourth team out of 25-5A if we had four teams this year? Did ya'll see in the Corpus district a team that is giving up more points than they score and might have a below .500 record is probably going to make the playoffs?
The East Central-Southwest winner.

[lonny23]

I was waiting for that.
I'm glad I can make you happy! :p

[lonny23]

Yes, I remember how good you thought Judson was before, and in the middle, of the season. LOL at that!
I talked a lot of trash last year, but not this year. I thought they could get a lot better as the year went along this year, but they didn't. That's not to say they won't do it now.

[Pantherfan12]

Looks Good

Madison beat O'Connor in preseason when one of the super sophs fumbled inside the Madison 10....still a win for Mavs...and Clark beat Jay...so the rankings looks right...

O'Connor vs Jay this Friday for the 27 Championship...Doesn't change who plays where come playoff time....

See the winner of Div 1 25/26 .. Seguin/Reagan? come round 2

Go Panthers

[lonny23]

Looks Good

Madison beat O'Connor in preseason when one of the super sophs fumbled inside the Madison 10....still a win for Mavs...and Clark beat Jay...so the rankings looks right...

O'Connor vs Jay this Friday for the 27 Championship...Doesn't change who plays where come playoff time....

See the winner of Div 1 25/26 .. Seguin/Reagan? come round 2

Go Panthers
I'm still holding out that it's going to be Judson in there for 26.

[bubbacoach]

I think O'Connor will beat Seguin or Reagan, even Judson if they were to blow out Reagan this week. To much discpiline and execution for O'Connor

[Pantherfan12]

I think O'Connor will beat Seguin or Reagan, even Judson if they were to blow out Reagan this week. To much discpiline and execution for O'Connor

I'm still amazed at how well O'Connor has done with such a young team. Key Seniors in Leadership roles with all the Jrs and Sophs. I think OC is only starting something like 9 seniors at the moment. Lost the starting FB and DE who were both Sophs to ACL tears, but get back the soph TB this week after being out several weeks with a shoulder injury. The key there is discipline and they've gotten better each week....Good Luck to all in Region 4....Let's bring home both the Div 1 and 2 titles to the SA area...

GO Panthers......

[bubbacoach]

I'm still amazed at how well O'Connor has done with such a young team. Key Seniors in Leadership roles with all the Jrs and Sophs. I think OC is only starting something like 9 seniors at the moment. Lost the starting FB and DE who were both Sophs to ACL tears, but get back the soph TB this week after being out several weeks with a shoulder injury. The key there is discipline and they've gotten better each week....Good Luck to all in Region 4....Let's bring home both the Div 1 and 2 titles to the SA area...
GO Panthers......
Getting a little excited there?

[Pantherfan12]

Getting a little excited there?

I know....but it will make Lonny happier if the SA teams were in the hunt...since Judson isn't...hehe

[lonny23]

Getting a little excited there?
He should want both titles.

[lonny23]

I know....but it will make Lonny happier if the SA teams were in the hunt...since Judson isn't...hehe
Not only is Judson in the hunt, but they might do some damage.

[clemensbuff]

Mad is better than any 27 team.

I agree totally! The only two schools in 27 that would even give the Mavericks a good game would be JJ and OC!

[lonny23]

I agree totally! The only two schools in 27 that would even give the Mavericks a good game would be JJ and OC!
How about Clark?

[clemensbuff]

Hey, it's the risk I run. I know people will remind me...A LOT! :D

I KNOW I DO! LOL

[clemensbuff]

Your list looks very good, I just still have a hard time giving Clemens the top spot. No offense Clemens, but I just don't think your competition has been as tough as Smithson Valley's. Plus, SV is a proven title contender and is battle-tested in one of the toughest districts in the State. I understand SC is unbeaten and therefore it's tough not to put them on top, but I also think Clemens and San Marcos will both be going home after bi-district. That's just my two cents.

Cue the SC "lack of respect" posts...

You are correct in SV being battle tested! Nobody could or would dispute that! But, we are still a good football team even without our all-american running back in there! SV has been to the title game I think 3 of the last 5 years, but in the two they weren't it was because the Buffaloes sent them home!

[lonny23]

I KNOW I DO! LOL
Yeah, you'll be there for me, I meant against me! :p

[clemensbuff]

Clemens can get SV if they finish below Madison in the final standings with an SV loss and Madison win this week.

Why would it matter if SV lost and Madison won? That would make them both 6-1 in district and SV won the head to head against Madison. That would mean that SV is considered the 26 champ rep in the playoffs even though they are co-champions, wouldn't it?

[clemensbuff]

Clemens does not want SV. It would be a very good game and could go either way, but if I were Clemens, I would want Madison, because of their defense.

I don't know anyone who really would want SV in the first round, or any round! But, you are correct that a Mavericks matchup is better for the Buffaloes in the first round! If we would meet up with them later in the playoffs it would be better because it will give the offense 5 weeks to work without James in the lineup and hopefully uncover a few new wrinkles in the process!

[clemensbuff]

I think O'Connor will beat Seguin or Reagan, even Judson if they were to blow out Reagan this week. To much discpiline and execution for O'Connor

I agree! OC has come a lonnnnnnnng way in 10 weeks! Those youngsters are starting to play and that Jr. T.J. Horny is a stud and only going to get better!

[clemensbuff]

I'm still amazed at how well O'Connor has done with such a young team. Key Seniors in Leadership roles with all the Jrs and Sophs. I think OC is only starting something like 9 seniors at the moment. Lost the starting FB and DE who were both Sophs to ACL tears, but get back the soph TB this week after being out several weeks with a shoulder injury. The key there is discipline and they've gotten better each week....Good Luck to all in Region 4....Let's bring home both the Div 1 and 2 titles to the SA area...

GO Panthers......

I think I'd find another spot for that soph to play because T.J. Horny is playing damn good football at TB and he's only going to get better!

[clemensbuff]

How about Clark?

For some reason I dont think Clark could beat them 1 time out of 10 this year. I don't know why, but that is my gut feeling. Actually, I really do not think JJ would stand a chance either even though they have a athletic, tough defense!

[JackHandey_98]

Why would it matter if SV lost and Madison won? That would make them both 6-1 in district and SV won the head to head against Madison. That would mean that SV is considered the 26 champ rep in the playoffs even though they are co-champions, wouldn't it?
SV has a loss to Churchill.... with a loss to Roosevelt that would be 2 district losses, putting Madison as the champ with a win. As far as J.Henry goes, everyone knows hes out. Yes it will hurt Clemens a little, but one guy should not make up for that much. If Clemens is a state-contending team.. they will have to play as a team and rely on what they have all year they're defense. Every post you bring up J.Henry being injured.... everyone knows; everyones upset that hes out, but you gotta get over it.... It just sounds like your getting your excuses ready just in case Clemens looses.

[mad_fan]

Why would it matter if SV lost and Madison won? That would make them both 6-1 in district and SV won the head to head against Madison. That would mean that SV is considered the 26 champ rep in the playoffs even though they are co-champions, wouldn't it?


SV lost to Churchill, Mad lost to SV. One lose each in district right now.

[mad_fan]

They lost to a 4A team and you still are talking mess. A good 4A team, but still a 4A team. It was a blowout wasn't it?


Who was the other team that beat SM????? Aren't they 4A????? :p Everytime I bring that up we go back to the SM preseason, week ZERO, non-district, means nothing, 3 point win SM had over Madison... :mad: . SM counts that win 8 times and ignores the 4A lose!!!!

Yep, SM #3, Madison #7...that's the way I see it. ;) Until we meet again!!

[sendero]

Why would it matter if SV lost and Madison won? That would make them both 6-1 in district and SV won the head to head against Madison. That would mean that SV is considered the 26 champ rep in the playoffs even though they are co-champions, wouldn't it?


No SV would be 5-2 and Madison would be 6-1. Sv lost to Churchill.

[bubbacoach]

Who was the other team that beat SM????? Aren't they 4A????? :p Everytime I bring that up we go back to the SM preseason, week ZERO, non-district, means nothing, 3 point win SM had over Madison... :mad: . SM counts that win 8 times and ignores the 4A lose!!!!

Yep, SM #3, Madison #7...that's the way I see it. ;) Until we meet again!!
I still do not understand which 6 teams you think are better than Madison? Which teams are they?

[mad_fan]

I still do not understand which 6 teams you think are better than Madison? Which teams are they?


Well. if SM is better (which they are everywhere I look), there's obviously 5 others! :)

[gobuffs04]

SV probably won't lose saterday...it'll prolly be a close one but they should pull off the win...that would have them playing SM and clemens playin madison...i'm pretty sure clemens will have no problem with madison...but as for SM SV that should be worth seeing...who do u guys think will take the W??

[Reaganrattler07]

SV probably won't lose saterday...it'll prolly be a close one but they should pull off the win...that would have them playing SM and clemens playin madison...i'm pretty sure clemens will have no problem with madison...but as for SM SV that should be worth seeing...who do u guys think will take the W??

Most likely SV will win.....but I gotta support the other Rattlers!

Heart - SM
Brain - SV

[mad_fan]

SV probably won't lose saterday...it'll prolly be a close one but they should pull off the win...that would have them playing SM and clemens playin madison...i'm pretty sure clemens will have no problem with madison...but as for SM SV that should be worth seeing...who do u guys think will take the W??


SV by 30

[clemensbuff]

SV has a loss to Churchill.... with a loss to Roosevelt that would be 2 district losses, putting Madison as the champ with a win. As far as J.Henry goes, everyone knows hes out. Yes it will hurt Clemens a little, but one guy should not make up for that much. If Clemens is a state-contending team.. they will have to play as a team and rely on what they have all year they're defense. Every post you bring up J.Henry being injured.... everyone knows; everyones upset that hes out, but you gotta get over it.... It just sounds like your getting your excuses ready just in case Clemens looses.

Duh, I forgot about SV's loss to Churchill! As far as getting ready for an excuse, what are you talking about, all I've talked about is how Clemens has come together since loosing him and played as a team like they are! As far as loosing James for the year, it would hurt any team and if you don't admit that, then I don't know what to say to you. As far as excuses if we loose, we won't make any! There are 4 good teams that will be in Div1 in R4 (SV, SM, SC, & JM) and either team could win the region!

[sendero]

SV by 30


Now mad_fan you are just trying to throw some negative mojo out there now :) SV has barely scored 30 points in most games much less a spread of 30.

I'll predict Madison by 30 over Clemens :p

[gobuffs04]

Now mad_fan you are just trying to throw some negative mojo out there now :) SV has barely scored 30 points in most games much less a spread of 30.

I'll predict Madison by 30 over Clemens :p

r we still talkin about football???? :confused:

[mad_fan]

Now mad_fan you are just trying to throw some negative mojo out there now :) SV has barely scored 30 points in most games much less a spread of 30.

I'll predict Madison by 30 over Clemens :p

They havent had a spread of 30 because they havent played anybody from the 25 yet! :)

You are all wrong about Madison...I say by 10. :p

[clemensbuff]

Now mad_fan you are just trying to throw some negative mojo out there now :) SV has barely scored 30 points in most games much less a spread of 30.

I'll predict Madison by 30 over Clemens :p


ARE YOU CRAZY! LOL If we give up 30 points total to Madison I would be shocked, and I dont think they'll hold us scoreless! LOL However, I do beleive it will be a great game with the Buffaloes on top in the end!

[Reaganrattler07]

Buffs on top....it may be THEM by 30 :p ....remember Taft?

[mad_fan]

Buffs on top....it may be THEM by 30 :p ....remember Taft?


To what Taft do you refer? The one that lost to Madison 50-15?
If you are talking a year ago, remember Seguin? :p
Me thinks you prematurely jump on 25 bandwagon!

[bubbacoach]

Ignore everything MAD FAN says, he is smoking crack. He thinks there are 6 teams better than Madison in the San Antonio are right now. There are not even 6 teams better than Madison in Region 4.

[mad_fan]

Ignore everything MAD FAN says, he is smoking crack. He thinks there are 6 teams better than Madison in the San Antonio are right now. There are not even 6 teams better than Madison in Region 4.

:rolleyes:

just rollin' with the posters... ;) If I put what I really think the guys from the 25 be all over me... :D

[bubbacoach]

:rolleyes:

just rollin' with the posters... ;) If I put what I really think the guys from the 25 be all over me... :D
I got ya. Now I see. I Thought I was the only one that jacked with people.

[mad_fan]

I got ya. Now I see. I Thought I was the only one that jacked with people.


Jack is my middle name. :p

See what people do with that! :eek:

[bubbacoach]

Jack is my middle name. :p

See what people do with that! :eek:
I will leave that alone.

[Reaganrattler07]

How about the 35-7 Taft? The one in the Alamodome :D

[bubbacoach]

How about the 35-7 Taft? The one in the Alamodome :D
Are you referring to the 2001 State Playoff game?

[Reaganrattler07]

Are you referring to the 2001 State Playoff game?

The one last year.....Taft cleaned their clock.

[bubbacoach]

Yesterday afternoon the principals from Reagan and Judson Along with the athletic directors met to discuss the possible scenarios that could occur depending on the outcome of Friday's game. I have not heard the outcome of the meeting. I do know the Judson coaches have told their players that they must win by 18 points to get in the playoffs. I have talked to a Reagan coach that says Judson must win by 21. Which is true? I do not know. I think That the only ones that know right now are the AD's, Principals, and head coaches. It should be intetresting to see the outcome of their meeting after so much speculation.

[Reaganrattler07]

Yesterday afternoon the principals from Reagan and Judson Along with the athletic directors met to discuss the possible scenarios that could occur depending on the outcome of Friday's game. I have not heard the outcome of the meeting. I do know the Judson coaches have told their players that they must win by 18 points to get in the playoffs. I have talked to a Reagan coach that says Judson must win by 21. Which is true? I do not know. I think That the only ones that know right now are the AD's, Principals, and head coaches. It should be intetresting to see the outcome of their meeting after so much speculation.

Hmm......do they just wanna keep it secret until the game(or after?) or are they going to make it public?

[bubbacoach]

It is top secret

[mad_fan]

How about the 35-7 Taft? The one in the Alamodome :D

I fail to see how that is relevant to this year, but if I must go look up Reagan scores from prior years I can. :p

[Reaganrattler07]

It is top secret

When do they make it public? And why secret?

[mad_fan]

I guess hunting for Reagan playoff scores would be a waste of time. :eek: :p

[Reaganrattler07]

I fail to see how that is relevant to this year, but if I must go look up Reagan scores from prior years I can. :p

We can start with a score a few years back that was 59-53 :D I believe Madison was #1 at the time.....some of my friends were telling me that some Madison people lost hundreds because they bet on that game.

I have a chart of all of Reagan's games up until i think last year. Anyone know who the first coach at Reagan was? I can't find his name.

[mad_fan]

Remember that Madison Reagan game THIS YEAR! We stomped your A$$. :D

[bubbacoach]

It is not top secret I have not talked to anyone this morning to find out? And there have only been two coaches at Reagan in its history.

[mad_fan]

We can start with a score a few years back that was 59-53 :D I believe Madison was #1 at the time.....some of my friends were telling me that some Madison people lost hundreds because they bet on that game.

I have a chart of all of Reagan's games up until i think last year. Anyone know who the first coach at Reagan was? I can't find his name.



Nobody cares! :p

[Reaganrattler07]

It is not top secret I have not talked to anyone this morning to find out? And there have only been two coaches at Reagan in its history.

Yeah, Dave Wetzel is the second but I never knew who the first one was.....and I've tried going through archives and I can't seem to find it....

[clemensbuff]

It is top secret

They could tell us, but then they'd have to kill us! LOL Either 18 or 21, who thinks that CJ could win that big over Reagan Friday? I don't think that they can, however Judson is Judson, and if they have a breath in them left, it certainly could happen!

[mad_fan]

They could tell us, but then they'd have to kill us! LOL Either 18 or 21, who thinks that CJ could win that big over Reagan Friday? I don't think that they can, however Judson is Judson, and if they have a breath in them left, it certainly could happen!
:rolleyes: :D :p

[lonny23]

I guess hunting for Reagan playoff scores would be a waste of time. :eek: :p
Kinda like looking in the Madison trophy case! :p

[bubbacoach]

Irl Kincaid was the first coach at Reagan, he was at Churchill before going to Reagan and is now assistant athletic director of Northeast.

[mad_fan]

Kinda like looking in the Madison trophy case! :p

YOU STOLE THAT! I was saying that about Mad, and SM and Clemens and....all sharing one trophy case...empty.

[lonny23]

YOU STOLE THAT! I was saying that about Mad, and SM and Clemens and....all sharing one trophy case...empty.
I know this is going to be hard to believe, but it's true. I don't remember reading where you said that.

[bubbacoach]

Did you know that there could be that much dust in one place?

[mad_fan]

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but it's true. I don't remember reading where you said that.


Okay, it was weeks ago when the 25ers came to life, whinnin' bout no one posting about them....remember those days?

[lonny23]

Okay, it was weeks ago when the 25ers came to life, whinnin' bout no one posting about them....remember those days?
Oh, the Good Ol' Days! :p

[mad_fan]

Did you know that there could be that much dust in one place?

Yes, the mix of dust and hot air is making it hard to get a breath.

[mad_fan]

Oh, the Good Ol' Days! :p


I miss those days! And what happened to skins? they move reagan into the 25? getting cocky with the chance of A playoff game! :D

[bubbacoach]

Plenty of hot air!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[bubbacoach]

I am surprised that we do not have a Clemens fan on here whining that we are talking about Judson/Reagan and not giving them respect by talking about them. After all they have a tough test this week against Seguin. No respect, no respect at all.

[clemensbuff]

I am surprised that we do not have a Clemens fan on here whining that we are talking about Judson/Reagan and not giving them respect by talking about them. After all they have a tough test this week against Seguin. No respect, no respect at all.


Why in God's name are you guys talking so much about this CJ/Reagan game when all it is for is third place? Don't ya'll know that we are 9-0 and the highest ranked team in region 4? LOL Is that good enough for you bubbacoach? If not, let me know and I'm sure that I can do much better! LOL

[mad_fan]

Why in God's name are you guys talking so much about this CJ/Reagan game when all it is for is third place? Don't ya'll know that we are 9-0 and the highest ranked team in region 4? LOL Is that good enough for you bubbacoach? If not, let me know and I'm sure that I can do much better! LOL


Perfect! by me. :)

[lonny23]

Why in God's name are you guys talking so much about this CJ/Reagan game when all it is for is third place? Don't ya'll know that we are 9-0 and the highest ranked team in region 4? LOL Is that good enough for you bubbacoach? If not, let me know and I'm sure that I can do much better! LOL
Because it's more important than anything that happens in 25-5A!

[clemensbuff]

Because it's more important than anything that happens in 25-5A!

UNTIL ROUND 1 OF THE PLAYOFFS! NO SWEEP THIS YEAR BOYS! LOL

[Pantherfan12]

Because it's more important than anything that happens in 25-5A!

You all crack me up...Truth is I was surprised to see Mad drop below JJ and OC.....After this weekend things will be sorted out...hopefully. So let me get this straight.....The winner of the Reagan/Judson game will play either the Saints or the Texans???/

GO PANTHERS..... :cool:

[bullrock]

It doesn't matter if Judson needs to score 18 or 21. The score is not going to be close. Judson wins big or Reagan wins big. The air will come out of whoever gets behind real fast.

[bubbacoach]

Judson must win by 21. That has come down as the official number after the meeting yesterday.

[mad_fan]

You all crack me up...Truth is I was surprised to see Mad drop below JJ and OC.....After this weekend things will be sorted out...hopefully. So let me get this straight.....The winner of the Reagan/Judson game will play either the Saints or the Texans???/

GO PANTHERS..... :cool:

WHAT Madison was above them...where? Are we #7 yet? :D

[bubbacoach]

That is Dan McCarney and the other numb skulls at the express. The Mavericks are still in the top four to me. And I know best.

[mad_fan]

Okay Pantherfan I found it, the Expense-News? Same guys that have Seguin in front of Reagan and Judson. I a couple of weeks we can repost that and get a good laugh. But, Madison is closing in on #7!

PS...No one pays for that pos paper, do they? You can get all the news you need free on the net!

[mad_fan]

Yes, I see how the system works...SM beat Mad so they go above them...O'Connor did not beat Madison so they go above them...

Jay lost to a 4A team, so they go above Madison...SM lost to a 4A team, so they go above Madison...O'Connor lost to a 4A team.....

[PaulinPlano]

Because it's more important than anything that happens in 25-5A!

OUCH! :eek:

[Reaganrattler07]

Judson must win by 21. That has come down as the official number after the meeting yesterday.

Thats what I heard....I don't see it happening. I see us winning! :D

[BuffFan2005]

Your list looks very good, I just still have a hard time giving Clemens the top spot. No offense Clemens, but I just don't think your competition has been as tough as Smithson Valley's. Plus, SV is a proven title contender and is battle-tested in one of the toughest districts in the State. I understand SC is unbeaten and therefore it's tough not to put them on top, but I also think Clemens and San Marcos will both be going home after bi-district. That's just my two cents.

Cue the SC "lack of respect" posts...

NO respect for clemens still.. wait till playoff time and you`ll see !!!

[BuffFan2005]

They havent had a spread of 30 because they havent played anybody from the 25 yet! :)

You are all wrong about Madison...I say by 10. :p

Last time i checked san marcos and seguin are in the SA top 10 clemens plays both and clearly dominated san marcos.. san marcos is a mucccch better team than this years judson and churchill and SV lost to churchill hmmm.. and i think san marcos could even give madison a run for their money! so 25 5a might have some bad teams but wut about 26`s LEE and MAC just like highlands and jeff.

[TxLawDawg]

BuffFan - I never said that I didn't respect SC, and I never said that SC isn't a very good team. I simply stated my opinion that I didn't think they were better than SV, and I gave some reasons to back up my analysis. You're absolutely right that it doesn't matter what any of us think at this point, and that we'll all find out come playoff time.

Now, try to use some punctuation, and break down your thoughts into sentences. It makes things much easier to understand and will make you appear to have some sense of grammer and intellectual capacity. It will also make other posters give a little more credence to your opinions.

[clemensbuff]

You all crack me up...Truth is I was surprised to see Mad drop below JJ and OC.....After this weekend things will be sorted out...hopefully. So let me get this straight.....The winner of the Reagan/Judson game will play either the Saints or the Texans???/

GO PANTHERS..... :cool:

Just pencil in the win for either of the two HS teams! LOL

[clemensbuff]

Yes, I see how the system works...SM beat Mad so they go above them...O'Connor did not beat Madison so they go above them...

Jay lost to a 4A team, so they go above Madison...SM lost to a 4A team, so they go above Madison...O'Connor lost to a 4A team.....

Come on Mad_fan, you missed the part about Madison loosing to SM in that one! LOL But, I see your point clearly. There are three teams that should be ranked above Madison right now, two they have lost to and the other the will loose to! LOL even louder

[mad_fan]

Come on Mad_fan, you missed the part about Madison loosing to SM in that one! LOL But, I see your point clearly. There are three teams that should be ranked above Madison right now, two they have lost to and the other the will loose to! LOL even louder


Oh ya, I said SM beat Madison, I should have also included Madison losing to SM, otherwise it wont count twice... :p

[BuffFan2005]

OK TX LAW, it really doesn`t matter how I write my opinion, as long as people can read it. Sorry I don`t have all day to sit and correct my posts on this forum I do have a life. Back to the topic, SV is no better than SC. There are no stats to prove this its all going to come out come playoff time. Thats my analysis.

[clemensbuff]

Oh ya, I said SM beat Madison, I should have also included Madison losing to SM, otherwise it wont count twice... :p

Sorry mad, I guess I better go back to that speed reading class again or get my damn $ back!

[TxLawDawg]

BuffFan, you are correct that it does not matter how you express your opinion. I was only making a suggestion that it would be easier for the rest of us to understand your opinion if you would use sentences and puntuation rather than simply spill your thought process into one long runoff sentence.

[Reaganrattler07]

OK TX LAW, it really doesn`t matter how I write my opinion, as long as people can read it. Sorry I don`t have all day to sit and correct my posts on this forum I do have a life. Back to the topic, SV is no better than SC. There are no stats to prove this its all going to come out come playoff time. Thats my analysis.

I say Clemens wins if the two do meet....if they do, I look forward to the meeting.

[mad_fan]

I say Clemens wins if the two do meet....if they do, I look forward to the meeting.

The two WONT meet! :D

[mad_fan]

Sorry mad, I guess I better go back to that speed reading class again or get my damn $ back!

I went back and read my post 5 times to make sure I wrote what I thought...how do you make a Mad fan Madder... :D

[Reaganrattler07]

The two WONT meet! :D

Yeah they will - Madison won't last long :p

[mad_fan]

Yeah they will - Madison won't last long :p


I changed my mind...they'll meet in week one. :p

[clemensbuff]

I went back and read my post 5 times to make sure I wrote what I thought...how do you make a Mad fan Madder... :D

By taking the Mavericks out in the first round? Hell I don't know, why don't you give me a hint and I'll do my best. The only people that I've pissed off here lately have been a couple of my own boys! I'm losing my touch, please let me know how I can help make you madder then a wet hen!

[mad_fan]

By taking the Mavericks out in the first round? Hell I don't know, why don't you give me a hint and I'll do my best. The only people that I've pissed off here lately have been a couple of my own boys! I'm losing my touch, please let me know how I can help make you madder then a wet hen!

:) Buff, you need to expand your vocabulary... :p
Try here... ;)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mad

[lonny23]

:) Buff, you need to expand your vocabulary... :p
Try here... ;)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mad
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mad
According to definition 8, you might have rabies! :p

[mad_fan]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mad
According to definition 8, you might have rabies! :p


rabid_fan may be my next incarnation :D

[bubbacoach]

Last time i checked san marcos and seguin are in the SA top 10 clemens plays both and clearly dominated san marcos.. san marcos is a mucccch better team than this years judson and churchill and SV lost to churchill hmmm.. and i think san marcos could even give madison a run for their money! so 25 5a might have some bad teams but wut about 26`s LEE and MAC just like highlands and jeff.
The express news top ten sucks. They do a top ten trying to sell papers. they don't give you the truth, because you cannot handle the truth.

[clemensbuff]

:) Buff, you need to expand your vocabulary... :p
Try here... ;)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mad

Thanks, I'll give it a try! On second thought, no I won't because I've got better things to do than try and sound like a worthless politician or lawyer! Hint for you Mad, don't go to college to be either of the two professions listed above because if you do become either, the only person who will still love you will be your mom.

[bubbacoach]

Quick Question. Do all the Clemens Fans have to leave this site when they get moved back down to 4A next year? Or do they get to continue to run it? :)

[mad_fan]

Thanks, I'll give it a try! On second thought, no I won't because I've got better things to do than try and sound like a worthless politician or lawyer! Hint for you Mad, don't go to college to be either of the two professions listed above because if you do become either, the only person who will still love you will be your mom.


I'm way too old and make too much $$$, to go back to college again. :D :p

Bringing up somebody's mom never, ever leads to anything good on a message board. No matter the context.

[sendero]

Quick Question. Do all the Clemens Fans have to leave this site when they get moved back down to 4A next year? Or do they get to continue to run it? :)

Then we will hear the "our little ole 4A team could win the 26-5A easy" :D

[Rerun]

Then we will hear the "our little ole 4A team could win the 26-5A easy" :D

Which is true.

And yea, I will be around this site next year I'd imagine.

Texas AAAA Sports (http://www.texaaaasports.com/vb/index.php?)

[GoRangers]

Then we will hear the "our little ole 4A team could win the 26-5A easy" :D

If SV ends up 4A in 2007, they probably would reserve the right to claim this. :) :p

[bubbacoach]

I do hope the fan's from these future 4A programs stick around, so that there is someone to get all riled up. and they could make the claim that they are better than most 5A teams in the area.

[clemensbuff]

I do hope the fan's from these future 4A programs stick around, so that there is someone to get all riled up. and they could make the claim that they are better than most 5A teams in the area.

We'll stick around, you can count on it. As far as making statements about being better then most 5a teams, hopefully we will do that by playing 4 or 5 of them in non-district games and just let the score say it all! LOL But then we would just have to listen to the BS about how it was early in the season and that non-district game didn't mean anything! Right? I guarantee you this, in 98' and 99' both SC and SV could have beaten the overwelming majority of the 5a teams in SA, if not all of them, and if you watched any of our games or SVs those years you probably wouldn't argue the fact to much! In fact, we not only beat some 5a playoff teams those two years in non-district games, we absolutely spanked them!

[bubbacoach]

We'll stick around, you can count on it. As far as making statements about being better then most 5a teams, hopefully we will do that by playing 4 or 5 of them in non-district games and just let the score say it all! LOL But then we would just have to listen to the BS about how it was early in the season and that non-district game didn't mean anything! Right? I guarantee you this, in 98' and 99' both SC and SV could have beaten the overwelming majority of the 5a teams in SA, if not all of them, and if you watched any of our games or SVs those years you probably wouldn't argue the fact to much! In fact, we not only beat some 5a playoff teams those two years in non-district games, we absolutely spanked them!
Didn't a SA team win the state championship that year(98'). Did ya'll beat them? Just messing with you. In the grand scheme of things the only difference between a 4A school and a 5A school is ussually a few kids. They should be very competitive. Unless you are talking about some of the larger 5A schools and some of the smaller 4A schools, but as I have stated before it is not the size of the enrollment, it is the size of the talent pool. They are completely different stories. You have so many factors that go into the size of the talent pool it is unreal.

[clemensbuff]

Didn't a SA team win the state championship that year(98'). Did ya'll beat them? Just messing with you. In the grand scheme of things the only difference between a 4A school and a 5A school is ussually a few kids. They should be very competitive. Unless you are talking about some of the larger 5A schools and some of the smaller 4A schools, but as I have stated before it is not the size of the enrollment, it is the size of the talent pool. They are completely different stories. You have so many factors that go into the size of the talent pool it is unreal.

I agree with you to an extent, but the size of an enrollment is in direct relation to the # of talented players that are available! In other words, if a larger 4a has 800 boys, 320 of them being JRs or SRs and a larger 5a has 1,600 boys, 640 of them being JRs & SRs it would stand to reason that there should be more naturally talented athletes to choose from. Maybe not twice as many, but certainly more. I think that this helps with the 1st teamers somewhat, but where it will really show it's help is on the reserve players that are ready to come in and play when a starter goes down! Also, having more kids on the team simply makes them work that much harder (both in practice and especially in the off-season in the weight rooms) to acheive a starting position! They know if their buddy gets stronger and quicker than them between this season and next, they will be watching from the bench!

All I'm saying is that some of the really good 4a teams can play with the really good 5a teams and win! I truly hope the Ferrara schedules some tough 5a schools for non-district games even if it means a couple of early losses in the season, because it will pay off for district and the playoffs!

[bubbacoach]

I have heard he scheduled Wagner to open up with. This occurred at an AD's meeting I was at. I was shocked he wanted someone that will be struggling, being that it is a new school. But you look at all these large schools in the valley, why are they not state powers? It is not because they do not have the numbers, it is because they do not have the right, ethnic, social economic, etc. makeup. It is not the number of kids in the school it is who the kids are in the school. Lee is a perfect example, they have over 2300 kids and still cannot compete with most 4A schools.

[clemensbuff]

I have heard he scheduled Wagner to open up with. This occurred at an AD's meeting I was at. I was shocked he wanted someone that will be struggling, being that it is a new school. But you look at all these large schools in the valley, why are they not state powers? It is not because they do not have the numbers, it is because they do not have the right, ethnic, social economic, etc. makeup. It is not the number of kids in the school it is who the kids are in the school. Lee is a perfect example, they have over 2300 kids and still cannot compete with most 4A schools.

You have a very valid point on the numbers game! In my mind I cannot see Wagner struggling their first year with the talent and the coaching that they have in place! I'm not saying they're going to be contending for a title next year, but I would be willing to bet they are a top ten 5a team in SA next year! I hope that if he scheduled Wagner that he also approaches Rackley for a game. That would be a good thing keeping the local neighborhood rivalry going between those three schools. I really beleive that they would be excellent games year end and year out!

Do you know if Wagner's JV played Steele's JV this year? I heard that Steele's JV had a pretty good year and the future looks bright for them. What about Wagner's year, are they looking good?

[Pantherfan12]

You have a very valid point on the numbers game! In my mind I cannot see Wagner struggling their first year with the talent and the coaching that they have in place! I'm not saying they're going to be contending for a title next year, but I would be willing to bet they are a top ten 5a team in SA next year! I hope that if he scheduled Wagner that he also approaches Rackley for a game. That would be a good thing keeping the local neighborhood rivalry going between those three schools. I really beleive that they would be excellent games year end and year out!

Do you know if Wagner's JV played Steele's JV this year? I heard that Steele's JV had a pretty good year and the future looks bright for them. What about Wagner's year, are they looking good?

O'Connor's JV played Wagner this year. Wagner won the game late in the 4th quarter. I keep in mind that OC has a ton of Sophs and Jr's up on varsity and not playing at the JV level this year. Wagner had five or six kids that could start on almost any varsity program. The new school JV squad that impressed me was Stevens. They beat OC 28-0 and had a considerable size advantage. They should be a top 10 SA team next year and may challenge for a playoff spot their first year at the varsity level. Steven's has quite the sports complex...and I mean complex. Huge weight room and multiple sports fields and gyms....wow...Nice to see my tax dollars at work. How has the Steele JV squad done this year??

GO PANTHERS

[bubbacoach]

As I stated before my nephew plays at Wagner. They did scrimmage Steele and outscored them 5-2, but that is meaningless. You do not know if the one's scored on the two's or the other way around. There are many web sites in SA to check subvarsity scores. You can go to www.judsonisd.assistantcoach.net for all the Judson and Wagner scores, www.northsideisd.assistantcoach.net for all the Northside scores, www.neisd.net for all the northeast scores. And I am pretty sure the home pages at both Clemens schools have all their scores. I just looked up what records they have on the internet. It looks like Wagner and Stevens have played pretty much the same schools minus one or two games, and Steele has played an easier schedule in my opinion.
Stevens Jv 5-3-1, Freshmen games listed 1-2
Wagner Jv 6-2, freshmen A 6-1-1, freshmen B 7-1
Steele Jv 7-1, freshmen A 8-0, freshmen B 3-4
All have winning records, but they are against sub varstiy comp. It will be tougher when they step up to 5A or 4A varstiy comp.

[clemensbuff]

O'Connor's JV played Wagner this year. Wagner won the game late in the 4th quarter. I keep in mind that OC has a ton of Sophs and Jr's up on varsity and not playing at the JV level this year. Wagner had five or six kids that could start on almost any varsity program. The new school JV squad that impressed me was Stevens. They beat OC 28-0 and had a considerable size advantage. They should be a top 10 SA team next year and may challenge for a playoff spot their first year at the varsity level. Steven's has quite the sports complex...and I mean complex. Huge weight room and multiple sports fields and gyms....wow...Nice to see my tax dollars at work. How has the Steele JV squad done this year??

GO PANTHERS

The last I heard a couple of weeks ago was that they had lost one game to I think a 3a varsity team or something like that!

All those Sophs and Jrs on the varsity is a scary thing for the next couple of years! I think OC, as I've stated before, will be in contention for a city championship if not more in the next couple of years!

[Go Buffs]

The last I heard a couple of weeks ago was that they had lost one game to I think a 3a varsity team or something like that!

I believe that was against St. Anthony's with that Sohl kid that's running roughshod over their opponents this year.