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GBMonster76
07-10-2008, 06:23 AM
I always find it interesting to compare facilities at different programs, and I think I just found the best high school facilities in the nation hands down...this borders on the ridiculous for high school athletes, but I love it...see link...

http://jenkstrojanfootball.com/end_zone_plans.html

For good measure, since I'm a Florida guy, I'm posting another good one, but Lakeland doesn't even compare to Jenks.

http://www.lakelandfootball.com/facilities.htm

Post your school's link to pictures of your facilities...does anyone even compare to Jenks? I know there are schools in Texas which have similar stadiums, but the entire facility collection of what Jenks has is staggering.

chhspantherfan
07-10-2008, 06:30 AM
that Jenks facility is pretty awesome. several pictures show surrounding neighborhood and it appears they have built it on the existing campus not a new location. Great tradition in that town. But the tube TVs in the lockerroom picture got to go. this was a 2006 build, surely flat screen has gotten to Oklahoma;)

HebronHawk
07-10-2008, 06:36 AM
I always find it interesting to compare facilities at different programs, and I think I just found the best high school facilities in the nation hands down...this borders on the ridiculous for high school athletes, but I love it...see link...

http://jenkstrojanfootball.com/end_zone_plans.html

For good measure, since I'm a Florida guy, I'm posting another good one, but Lakeland doesn't even compare to Jenks.

http://www.lakelandfootball.com/facilities.htm

Post your school's link to pictures of your facilities...does anyone even compare to Jenks? I know there are schools in Texas which have similar stadiums, but the entire facility collection of what Jenks has is staggering.

Jenks is a small but wealthy suburb in the middle of Tulsa, OK. So far, they have avoided coming down to Texas and playing some of the Texas football giants in North Texas.

They have the ability to whip up on Oklahoma teams regularly. Tulsa Union is their local rival, I believe.

HebronHawk
07-10-2008, 06:37 AM
I always find it interesting to compare facilities at different programs, and I think I just found the best high school facilities in the nation hands down...this borders on the ridiculous for high school athletes, but I love it...see link...

http://jenkstrojanfootball.com/end_zone_plans.html

For good measure, since I'm a Florida guy, I'm posting another good one, but Lakeland doesn't even compare to Jenks.

http://www.lakelandfootball.com/facilities.htm

Post your school's link to pictures of your facilities...does anyone even compare to Jenks? I know there are schools in Texas which have similar stadiums, but the entire facility collection of what Jenks has is staggering.

That orange color in the Lakeland facility is outrageous. :eek: I couldn't stand it for five minutes. I would have to transfer. :D

GBMonster76
07-10-2008, 06:41 AM
That orange color in the Lakeland facility is outrageous. :eek: I couldn't stand it for five minutes. I would have to transfer. :D

Oh come on! The black and orange are intimidating and you know it! Actually, I prefer navy blue and orange, but that's ok. I will say this, I don't know why, but I've always loved the green and black that Carroll wears...the fact that they're the dragons, mythical creatures, is very cool too...original and it seems to suggest that we're very, very different...don't see too many dragons flying around!

HebronHawk
07-10-2008, 06:44 AM
Oh come on! The black and orange are intimidating and you know it! Actually, I prefer navy blue and orange, but that's ok. I will say this, I don't know why, but I've always loved the green and black that Carroll wears...the fact that they're the dragons, mythical creatures, is very cool too...original and it seems to suggest that we're very, very different...don't see too many dragons flying around!

Blue, Black and Silver are much better colors. Maroon and White work well too in college. :D

wesaxman34
07-10-2008, 07:36 AM
That's like a mini rec center...crazy

mdfootball
07-10-2008, 11:06 AM
that jenks facility is unreal. D1 colleges dont have that stuff. The comparison with facilities here in Maryland is almost not worth doing. Here, we have small weight rooms, with 3-4 benches, 2-3 squat racks, few dumbells. We have no meeting or film rooms. No school has an indoor facility, one school in my entire county has a turf field. The difference between football in tx and apparently oklahoma and maryland is just incredible.

DragonFan0316
07-10-2008, 11:15 AM
that jenks facility is unreal. D1 colleges dont have that stuff. The comparison with facilities here in Maryland is almost not worth doing. Here, we have small weight rooms, with 3-4 benches, 2-3 squat racks, few dumbells. We have no meeting or film rooms. No school has an indoor facility, one school in my entire county has a turf field. The difference between football in tx and apparently oklahoma and maryland is just incredible.

I played at Mount Saint Joseph. When I went by the campus last winter there was a lot of construction going on. Do you know what they are doing?

DragonFan0316
07-10-2008, 11:18 AM
I always find it interesting to compare facilities at different programs, and I think I just found the best high school facilities in the nation hands down...this borders on the ridiculous for high school athletes, but I love it...see link...

http://jenkstrojanfootball.com/end_zone_plans.html

For good measure, since I'm a Florida guy, I'm posting another good one, but Lakeland doesn't even compare to Jenks.

http://www.lakelandfootball.com/facilities.htm

Post your school's link to pictures of your facilities...does anyone even compare to Jenks? I know there are schools in Texas which have similar stadiums, but the entire facility collection of what Jenks has is staggering.


Wow, this makes SLC look poor. Nice health club for the Jenks boys.

mdfootball
07-10-2008, 11:25 AM
I played at Mount Saint Joseph. When I went by the campus last winter there was a lot of construction going on. Do you know what they are doing?

i am not terribly familiar with it, but I read online that they put in a new field and scoreboard, and it looks very nice by the pictures. Also, there are plans in the works for a new gym. I take it the southlake facilities are slightly better though right??:)

SteerPride09
07-10-2008, 11:32 AM
They have a nice field, but can they play with some of the big dogs here? not likely.

DragonFan0316
07-10-2008, 11:44 AM
i am not terribly familiar with it, but I read online that they put in a new field and scoreboard, and it looks very nice by the pictures. Also, there are plans in the works for a new gym. I take it the southlake facilities are slightly better though right??:)

When I moved here as a former HS football player and big HS football fan I wasn't all that amazed. That was until 2001 or so when the new facilities were built. OMG!:)

rancher52
07-10-2008, 11:47 AM
Does the Berry Complex for Cy Fair have weight training facilities ? If GB has not seen that complex he might be interested in seeing pics if anyone has that link.

To SteerPride, if you were referring to Jenks, I would opine that Jenks and Union in most years could definitely play with the big dawgs in Texas. They have incredible programs and represent HSFB most admireably.

the_great_state_of_TExas
07-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Unlike Soutlake Carroll it looks like Jenks is not impacted by a Robin Hood type program.

Imagine what we could do with this year's $15.4M payment.:(

chhspantherfan
07-10-2008, 12:24 PM
Unlike Soutlake Carroll it looks like Jenks is not impacted by a Robin Hood type program.

Imagine what we could do with this year's $15.4M payment.:(

or us at $35Million?:mad:

farmerfan
07-10-2008, 01:13 PM
Unlike Soutlake Carroll it looks like Jenks is not impacted by a Robin Hood type program.

Imagine what we could do with this year's $15.4M payment.:(

Give the teachers and other faculty a much needed raise?

Gazelle
07-10-2008, 01:33 PM
or us at $35Million?:mad:


or Plano @ $100M

farmerfan
07-10-2008, 01:46 PM
or Plano @ $100M

They could build a 4th senior high ;)

TulsaHale74
07-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Jenks has their share of anti-fans - probably most of the Tulsa Union fans.

I saw a reader comment on the Tulsa World site this morning:

1. 12/1/2007 6:23:52 AM, JenksNOT, Hooterville
A big ole WHO CARES, goes out to Jenks!

Little blond haired rich pretty mama's boys!

Look what money buys............again!

Wow, does that sound identical to the put-downs of a certain DFW team?

MemorialMustangs
07-10-2008, 04:55 PM
I always find it interesting to compare facilities at different programs, and I think I just found the best high school facilities in the nation hands down...this borders on the ridiculous for high school athletes, but I love it...see link...

http://jenkstrojanfootball.com/end_zone_plans.html

For good measure, since I'm a Florida guy, I'm posting another good one, but Lakeland doesn't even compare to Jenks.

http://www.lakelandfootball.com/facilities.htm

Post your school's link to pictures of your facilities...does anyone even compare to Jenks? I know there are schools in Texas which have similar stadiums, but the entire facility collection of what Jenks has is staggering.

I would say their stadium is about average compared to the Texas stadiums... But the facilities are really nice

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:02 PM
http://static.flickr.com/104/292859637_2ca44b6efb_o.jpg

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:05 PM
http://static.flickr.com/114/292037439_4100ef108a_o.jpg



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1341/998441951_4651e9ffa3_o.jpg



^CFISD'S Berry center

Owned05
07-10-2008, 05:09 PM
Mustangman, the Berry is an extremely nice place to go watch a ball game.

Thing is, both Jenks and Lakelands facilities are both on campus. The Berry is used by all what? 20 schools in Cy Fair ISD? Heh..kidding.

It's pretty crazy to see Lakelands facilities though. I mean, I used to live there and would've attended LHS if I hadn't moved to Katy.

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:13 PM
i just posted it cause some1 asked, and it ridiculously nice lol. I guess same could be said about southlake cause their campus is about 5 miles away from their stadium. Anyways enjoy the pics, I'll post a couple more I think are really nice

grayowl60
07-10-2008, 05:16 PM
They could build a 4th senior high ;)
with five they would still have over 3000 per school

dada
07-10-2008, 05:21 PM
i just posted it cause some1 asked, and it ridiculously nice lol. I guess same could be said about southlake cause their campus is about 5 miles away from their stadium. Anyways enjoy the pics, I'll post a couple more I think are really nice

Berry is nice...especialy when there is a decent crowd there......

rancher52
07-10-2008, 05:26 PM
i just posted it cause some1 asked, and it ridiculously nice lol. I guess same could be said about southlake cause their campus is about 5 miles away from their stadium. Anyways enjoy the pics, I'll post a couple more I think are really nice

I was the one that asked, because I remembered how sharp that complex looked no matter what teams play there. Thanks for digging them up and posting.

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:38 PM
http://www.midlothian-isd.net/athletics/_img/facilities/stadium-visitorview.jpg

^midlothian

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4854/tbhscoppell7xu.jpg

^coppell

http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=634

http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=633

^grapevine and colleyville's

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:45 PM
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/3654/Stadium1.jpg

^southlake


http://mansfield.huckabee-inc.com/2003/athleticcomplex/img/nov/MISDstadium064.jpg

^mansfield isd


http://www.dallasdiamondsfootball.com/images/pennington1.jpg

http://schoolctr.hebisd.edu/images/pageitems/p127110255_16332.jpg


^euless trinity and l.d. bell's stadium

Mustangman21
07-10-2008, 05:53 PM
http://www.charterbuilders.com/images/upload/Northwest-Stadium-Aerial.jpg

^northwest isd


http://www.dentonisd.org/5123871314539/lib/5123871314539/7%5B1%5D.jpg

^denton isd


kept it to all the stadiums i've been to that I thought were really nice, well enjoy.

MemorialMustangs
07-10-2008, 06:57 PM
http://picasaweb.google.com/springbranchisd/TullyStadiumFieldRenovation/photo#5200276648360680786

http://picasaweb.google.com/springbranchisd/TullyStadiumFieldRenovation/photo#5200276639770746178

SBISD's Tully stadium with the new turf... Not the Berry Center but I like it (Img didnt work sorry)

SteerPride09
07-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Spring Branch is very nice. I like the layout of the seating.

Texasfrog
07-10-2008, 09:44 PM
Does the Berry Complex for Cy Fair have weight training facilities ? If GB has not seen that complex he might be interested in seeing pics if anyone has that link.

To SteerPride, if you were referring to Jenks, I would opine that Jenks and Union in most years could definitely play with the big dawgs in Texas. They have incredible programs and represent HSFB most admireably.

Ya, most years the Jenks & Union teams would fit right in with the top #20 or so teams in Texas.

Just like the top 8 or so in HS teams in Louisiana would fit in with the top #20Texas HS teams.

The biggest difference is once you get past Jenks and Union the overall quality of HS football depth in Oklahoma drops pretty quick. Basically those are the two top teams in Oklahoma freaking 95% of the time and really no one else in the State can play with them.

dada
07-10-2008, 09:49 PM
http://picasaweb.google.com/springbranchisd/TullyStadiumFieldRenovation/photo#5200276648360680786

http://picasaweb.google.com/springbranchisd/TullyStadiumFieldRenovation/photo#5200276639770746178

SBISD's Tully stadium with the new turf... Not the Berry Center but I like it (Img didnt work sorry)

amazing how much of a difference some nice carpet can make

MemorialMustangs
07-10-2008, 10:23 PM
amazing how much of a difference some nice carpet can make

ur not kidding... That astroturf was HORRIBLE

dada
07-10-2008, 10:24 PM
ur not kidding... That astroturf was HORRIBLE

Hope the folks at the dump...errrr I mean Crump are paying attention

GBMonster76
07-11-2008, 06:38 AM
The difference between the Texas facilities, on the whole, versus the Florida facilities is just staggering. I love the talent in Florida and our 5 to 6 great national calibur programs, but from top to bottom...Florida is only about talent...Texas schools just do it right all around....facilities, community support, administration support, coaches' pay, etc. The FHSAA needs to get off their butts and change the way we do things in Florida.


www.americanfootballmonthly.com

CCHS77
07-11-2008, 09:08 AM
The difference between the Texas facilities, on the whole, versus the Florida facilities is just staggering. I love the talent in Florida and our 5 to 6 great national calibur programs, but from top to bottom...Florida is only about talent...Texas schools just do it right all around....facilities, community support, administration support, coaches' pay, etc. The FHSAA needs to get off their butts and change the way we do things in Florida.


www.americanfootballmonthly.com

Who are the "FHSAA"?

rancher52
07-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Who are the "FHSAA"?

Florida High School Athletic Association --- Florida's version of the UIL.

ftballin11
07-11-2008, 01:09 PM
I'd say the stadium is the size of a 4a or even 3a school but those facilities are second to none. WHat does there practice field look like.

DragonFan0316
07-11-2008, 02:11 PM
The difference between the Texas facilities, on the whole, versus the Florida facilities is just staggering. I love the talent in Florida and our 5 to 6 great national calibur programs, but from top to bottom...Florida is only about talent...Texas schools just do it right all around....facilities, community support, administration support, coaches' pay, etc. The FHSAA needs to get off their butts and change the way we do things in Florida.


www.americanfootballmonthly.com

Good observation.

cajun
07-11-2008, 03:10 PM
Ya, most years the Jenks & Union teams would fit right in with the top #20 or so teams in Texas.

Just like the top 8 or so in HS teams in Louisiana would fit in with the top #20Texas HS teams.

Which 8 would those be, frog?

farmerfan
07-11-2008, 03:18 PM
Which 8 would those be, frog?

Uh Oh!!!!!!!

insert popcorn smiley now :eek:

TulsaHale74
07-11-2008, 03:33 PM
http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0052.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

cajun
07-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Uh Oh!!!!!!!

insert popcorn smiley now :eek:

:D

Nah, I learned my lesson dealing with froggie...

Was just curious on what kind of list he would come up with and how he decided it was "8"..(lol)

GBMonster76
07-11-2008, 05:15 PM
Could play and be good in Texas each year...

1. Miami Northwestern
2. Lakeland
3. Ft. Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas
4. Miami Booker T. Washington
5. Belle Glade Glades Central
6. Pahokee
7. Deerfield Beach
8. Tampa Armwood
9. Apopka and Jacksonville Nease - tie
10. Orlando Edgewater and Jacksonville Bolles - tie

A lot of other good teams, but these are the cream of the crop in Florida.

mojotrain
07-11-2008, 05:17 PM
The Jenks facility is impressive. For a one team town/school district at a class 3-A school, Andrews compares well. The athletic complex has just been completed with work out facilities, swimming pool, coachs offices and basketball arena and the rest of what ever it takes to make a full meal deal. Mustang Bowl only holds 8,000 plus but the town in only populated by around 10,000 people. IMO, pound for pound the Andrews digs are superior.

Canes0177
07-11-2008, 05:17 PM
The difference between the Texas facilities, on the whole, versus the Florida facilities is just staggering. I love the talent in Florida and our 5 to 6 great national calibur programs, but from top to bottom...Florida is only about talent...Texas schools just do it right all around....facilities, community support, administration support, coaches' pay, etc. The FHSAA needs to get off their butts and change the way we do things in Florida.


www.americanfootballmonthly.com

What does the FHSAA have to do with it?

It's the school districts in Texas that are putting outrageous amounts of money into football.

mojotrain
07-11-2008, 05:35 PM
What does the FHSAA have to do with it?

It's the school districts in Texas that are putting outrageous amounts of money into football.

Texas put's as many football players into D-1 universities as Florida. Perhaps more, so you have nothing there. I can't think of anything more I would like the UIL of Texas to invest in than Texas children, can you. Where is your money going? Perhaps the FHSAA is arranging and paying for highschool recruiting in your state. I don't know but you better check it out. Then something thats been on my mind for a long while, why do do Florida schools recruit Texas? Florida is as bad as Oklahoma.

MemorialMustangs
07-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Texas put's as many football players into D-1 universities as Florida. Perhaps more, so you have nothing there. I can't think of anything more I would like the UIL of Texas to invest in than Texas children, can you. Where is your money going? Perhaps the FHSAA is arranging and paying for highschool recruiting in your state. I don't know but you better check it out. Then something thats been on my mind for a long while, why do do Florida schools recruit Texas? Florida is as bad as Oklahoma.

And Ohio State


Ya it means sure we invest a lot of money into football... But we actually have a very good public school system as far as they go... So its not that bad

Mustangman21
07-11-2008, 06:21 PM
how did talkin about facilities go to my state is better than your state? Lets get back on topic plz.

Canes0177
07-11-2008, 06:25 PM
Texas put's as many football players into D-1 universities as Florida. Perhaps more, so you have nothing there. I can't think of anything more I would like the UIL of Texas to invest in than Texas children, can you. Where is your money going? Perhaps the FHSAA is arranging and paying for highschool recruiting in your state. I don't know but you better check it out. Then something thats been on my mind for a long while, why do do Florida schools recruit Texas? Florida is as bad as Oklahoma.

????

Ok. I have no idea what this has to do with my post.

Texas has about 5 million more people than Florida and they put out MAYBE 15-20 more D1 kids a year.

In fact I'd attribute that to Texas having more D1 Universities within its borders.

Texas = 10
Florida = 7

So their in-state schools can offer more scholarships to in-state athletes.

I encourage you to to count the number of Floridians that make up the roster of FAU in August when one of their players is running down field past a group of Longhorns.

Or maybe watch the tape of an historically bad Miami team thrashing Texas A&M.

Finally, you think sinking a bunch of money into stadiums and arenas is "investing in your children?"

I love athletics more than anybody and I think kids deserve the opportunity to perform on the field. But get real. Texas takes that to a laughable extreme.

And in an effort to make themselves feel good they brand this form of self-aggrandizement as "investing in our children."

Mojo wouldn't happen to mean Permian would it? If so then I can understand your bitterness and frustration. You've had to live in the past for a long, long, long time.

mojotrain
07-11-2008, 06:47 PM
What does the FHSAA have to do with it?

It's the school districts in Texas that are putting outrageous amounts of money into football.

With this! The original topic was to post pictures or discuss other facilities. Texas, outrageous and money have nothing to do with the topic.

Canes0177
07-11-2008, 08:24 PM
With this! The original topic was to post pictures or discuss other facilities. Texas, outrageous and money have nothing to do with the topic.

I didn't bring it up. Somebody else did.

They said the FHSAA had to do something about our facilities.

I then asked what that had to do with the FHSAA.

Canes0177
07-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Ok. Back to facilities.

A shameless plug.

Our facilities got a major upgrade recently. A much needed upgrade.

The new athletic building is on the top left.

Smith Center pictures (http://www.raiderpressbox.com/raider_press_box/2008/03/george-smith-ce.html)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2562/aerialphotohl8.jpg

HUM398
07-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Ok. Back to facilities.

A shameless plug.

Our facilities got a major upgrade recently. A much needed upgrade.

The new athletic building is on the top left.

Smith Center pictures (http://www.raiderpressbox.com/raider_press_box/2008/03/george-smith-ce.html)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2562/aerialphotohl8.jpg

What is the seating capacity? Vistor side looks a little small.

Texasfrog
07-11-2008, 09:03 PM
Which 8 would those be, frog?


Just off the top of my head from the past 5 or so seasons.

1. John Curtis -- Private school
2. West Monroe
3. Bastrop
4. Acadiana
5. Shaw --- Private school
6. ECA --- Private school
7. Rummell -- Private school
8. Catholic -- Private school

Some of the annual powers in Louisiana that wouldnt be pushed around playing against the top #20 or so Texas teams. Sometimes the Texas schools would win and sometimes the Louisiana teams would win in matchups.

There is a few more Louisiana teams that I could throw on the list and there is many other Texas teams I could throw on the list.

I'm still waiting for the mighty list of those top #50 Louisiana schools that you claim could play "down for down" with the top #50 in Texas.:rolleyes:

It's funny because even you claimed last year that when you start playing against Sulphur, La your going against one of the bigger dogs in Louisiana.

Beaumont Kelly (Texas Private) ripped them a new one and gave them the biggest loss margin they had all year and Sulphur could be considered a legit Top #20 Louisiana team last year.

Most on here (EVEN THE MIGHTY FARMER) argue that Beaumont Kelly would at best be an average Texas 3A caliber team.;)

PS. Give me the mighty list of those top #50 Louisiana HS teams that can play with the top #50 in Texas. "I NEED A GOOD LAUGH,' and it's a subject you've been avoiding for almost a year now. "GO FIGURE.":rolleyes:

farmerfan
07-11-2008, 09:19 PM
Just off the top of my head from the past 5 or so seasons.

1. John Curtis -- Private school
2. West Monroe
3. Bastrop
4. Acadiana
5. Shaw --- Private school
6. ECA --- Private school
7. Rummell -- Private school
8. Catholic -- Private school

Some of the annual powers in Louisiana that wouldnt be pushed around playing against the top #20 or so Texas teams. Sometimes the Texas schools would win and sometimes the Louisiana teams would win in matchups.

There is a few more Louisiana teams that I could throw on the list and there is many other Texas teams I could throw on the list.

I'm still waiting for the mighty list of those top #50 Louisiana schools that you claim could play "down for down" with the top #50 in Texas.:rolleyes:

It's funny because even you claimed last year that when you start playing against Sulphur, La your going against one of the bigger dogs in Louisiana.

Beaumont Kelly (Texas Private) ripped them a new one and gave them the biggest loss margin they had all year and Sulphur could be considered a legit Top #20 Louisiana team last year.

Most on here (EVEN THE MIGHTY FARMER) argue that Beaumont Kelly would at best be an average Texas 3A caliber team.;)

PS. Give me the mighty list of those top #50 Louisiana HS teams that can play with the top #50 in Texas. "I NEED A GOOD LAUGH,' and it's a subject you've been avoiding for almost a year now. "GO FIGURE.":rolleyes:

Thanks for mentioning my name Frog especially in all caps with the great adjetive infront of it.
Glad you are posting again and things are safe with you.

cajun
07-11-2008, 10:00 PM
Just off the top of my head from the past 5 or so seasons.

1. John Curtis -- Private school
2. West Monroe
3. Bastrop
4. Acadiana
5. Shaw --- Private school
6. ECA --- Private school
7. Rummell -- Private school
8. Catholic -- Private school

Pretty much what I thought....

Destrehan (public)
Hahnville (public)
East St. John (public)
More (Lafayette, LA) (private)
Ehret (public)
Carencro (Lafayette, LA) (public)
OP Walker (public)
Sulphur (public)
Ruston (public)

All these teams and maybe 4 or 5 more play decent in Texas 5A...May not win 10 games every year, but wouldn't be 0-10 either....Not everyone in Texas is 10-0 anyways...:rolleyes:

Funny you mention Sulphur again...in 2006 Sulphur beat West Monroe 21-14 and beat my Rummel team 7-0 in the playoffs...West Monroe took care of Longview, Tx that year....I've got a feeling Sulphur was looking ahead when they played Kelly in Texas...I dunno, don't matter anyways...

OP Walker here in Nawlins' was the last team to shut out John Curtis-beat them 20-0 couple years back.....I remember in 2002-Curtis played 4A then...That district with John Curtis , Karr, OP Walker, Carver, was rugged....JC and OP Walker had two classic battles....Once in the regular season and one in the Dome in the title game....I mean JC had about 10 or 11 D1 prospects and OP Walker had probably 7 or 8....OP Walker still has some of the best talent in Nawlins'-you wouldn't know that.....That's where your kid over at Cypress Ridge is from Hasan Lipscomb, he's an OP Walker kid(Katrina)...Some People think OP Walker might be the team this year in 4A(not Bastrop).....OP got some talent...

Anyways, there's alot you don't know over here....I could go on and on....Is Louisiana as strong as Texas?...Not a chance(not even close), but this ain't Indiana or Virginia either over here....

John Curtis 2002

2002 (14-1) STATE CHAMPS
JCCS 49 Central Lafourche 0
JCCS 38 Shaw 7
JCCS 33 St. Augustine 0
JCCS 45 Capitol 0
JCCS 23 Washington-Marion 0
JCCS 48 Clark 8
JCCS 28 O.P. Walker 25
JCCS 22 Carver 14
JCCS 12 Karr 14
JCCS 40 Cohen 6
JJCCS 28 Leesville 0
JCCS 40 Haughton 0
JCCS 34 Salmen 19
JCCS 35 Neville 14
JCCS 16 O.P. Walker 14

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=7212&Sport=1

cajun
07-11-2008, 10:29 PM
Ok. Back to facilities.

A shameless plug.

Our facilities got a major upgrade recently. A much needed upgrade.

The new athletic building is on the top left.

Smith Center pictures (http://www.raiderpressbox.com/raider_press_box/2008/03/george-smith-ce.html)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2562/aerialphotohl8.jpg

That stadium kinda looks like the Calvary Baptist(Shreveport) stadium minus the track...

http://www.hometeamsonline.com/photos/football/CALVARYFOOTBALL/homepic1.jpg

Canes0177
07-12-2008, 10:24 AM
What is the seating capacity? Vistor side looks a little small.

5,000

Although we got 7,000 for a playoff game against Palm Beach Dwyer in 2004.

Almost everything is new. New scoreboard, new turf, new track, new coaching offices, new locker room, new training room.

The only things left are the stands and the press box. Hopefully that's next.

It's a bit smallish but hopefully that gets rectified in the next few years.

I've also heard we may be traveling to Texas next year. Once I hear an opponent I'll post it here.

ftballin11
07-13-2008, 12:31 AM
5,000

Although we got 7,000 for a playoff game against Palm Beach Dwyer in 2004.

Almost everything is new. New scoreboard, new turf, new track, new coaching offices, new locker room, new training room.

The only things left are the stands and the press box. Hopefully that's next.

It's a bit smallish but hopefully that gets rectified in the next few years.

I've also heard we may be traveling to Texas next year. Once I hear an opponent I'll post it here.

Man it looks like it holds 3k tops, do yall open the grass around it.

Texas Bob
07-13-2008, 06:33 AM
5,000

Although we got 7,000 for a playoff game against Palm Beach Dwyer in 2004.

Almost everything is new. New scoreboard, new turf, new track, new coaching offices, new locker room, new training room.

The only things left are the stands and the press box. Hopefully that's next.

It's a bit smallish but hopefully that gets rectified in the next few years.

I've also heard we may be traveling to Texas next year. Once I hear an opponent I'll post it here.

I estimate a lot of stadium seating and I can tell that the home side holds about 1260. (That's a butt on the bench count) If I could count the rows on the visitors side I could tell you what it holds. That said it still looks like a very nice facility.

GBMonster76
07-13-2008, 07:00 AM
Unfortunately, St. Thomas Aquinas has the nicest stadium in all of Florida hands down, and it still doesn't even compare to the mediocre stadiums in Texas.

And, Cane is right, it has nothing to do with the FHSAA like I said before, but the FHSAA does have a rule that states that booster clubs cannot pay coaches, which is ABSURD.

It's the districts, communities, and administrations that hinder the schools with great talent from becoming total programs.

Florida = talent, talent, talent...not total programs. (excluding a few schools, Aquinas being one of them)

Canes0177
07-13-2008, 09:18 AM
I estimate a lot of stadium seating and I can tell that the home side holds about 1260. (That's a butt on the bench count) If I could count the rows on the visitors side I could tell you what it holds. That said it still looks like a very nice facility.

That's impossible. The school has 2,200 kids and they all fit on the home side during pep rallies.

Unfortunately, St. Thomas Aquinas has the nicest stadium in all of Florida hands down, and it still doesn't even compare to the mediocre stadiums in Texas.

And, Cane is right, it has nothing to do with the FHSAA like I said before, but the FHSAA does have a rule that states that booster clubs cannot pay coaches, which is ABSURD.

It's the districts, communities, and administrations that hinder the schools with great talent from becoming total programs.

Florida = talent, talent, talent...not total programs. (excluding a few schools, Aquinas being one of them)

There's no way we have the nicest stadium in Florida. Let alone hands down.

Fort Myers, Manatee, Edgewater and Palm Bay are bigger and nicer. And those are just out of the stadiums I've seen. There are plenty more in the panhandle.

Booster clubs can supplement a coaches salary. But they can't pay it in full. Coaches are required to be on the teaching staff.

GBMonster76
07-13-2008, 12:37 PM
That's impossible. The school has 2,200 kids and they all fit on the home side during pep rallies.





There's no way we have the nicest stadium in Florida. Let alone hands down.

Fort Myers, Manatee, Edgewater and Palm Bay are bigger and nicer. And those are just out of the stadiums I've seen. There are plenty more in the panhandle.

Booster clubs can supplement a coaches salary. But they can't pay it in full. Coaches are required to be on the teaching staff.

Cane, those schools might have bigger stadiums, but they are not nicer. And, you're wrong about the booster clubs paying coaches. At private schools they can pay coaches, but not in the public school system. Also, Aquinas will have the nicest facilities in the state once the Smith Center is complete...no arguing in that.

Find out if St. Thomas is going to Texas next year...pronto! If so, I'm going!

Thanks.

Canes0177
07-13-2008, 12:59 PM
Cane, those schools might have bigger stadiums, but they are not nicer. And, you're wrong about the booster clubs paying coaches. At private schools they can pay coaches, but not in the public school system. Also, Aquinas will have the nicest facilities in the state once the Smith Center is complete...no arguing in that.

Find out if St. Thomas is going to Texas next year...pronto! If so, I'm going!

Thanks.

Have you seen Palm Bay? Manatee?

I didn't even mention county stadiums like Traz Powell (Miami), Lockhart (Broward) and Municipal (Daytona).

Boca Raton just built a new stadium. From scratch. Destroyed the old one and built a completely new stadium. Field Turf, new pressbox with elevators on both sides, new seating. It's really nice.

If our facilities are the best it will have been a long time coming. Before this new building we had some of the worst facilities.

I'm pretty sure we're coming to Texas next year. It probably won't be finalized until the spring but I'm know the opponent and the location.

TrojanHorse03
07-13-2008, 01:03 PM
Have you seen Palm Bay? Manatee?

I didn't even mention county stadiums like Traz Powell (Miami), Lockhart (Broward) and Municipal (Daytona).

Boca Raton just built a new stadium. From scratch. Destroyed the old one and built a completely new stadium. Field Turf, new pressbox with elevators on both sides, new seating. It's really nice.

If our facilities are the best it will have been a long time coming. Before this new building we had some of the worst facilities.

I'm pretty sure we're coming to Texas next year. It probably won't be finalized until the spring but I'm know the opponent and the location.

Who :)? I would love to see a program like St. Thomas Aquinas play a Texas team.

Texas Bob
07-13-2008, 01:25 PM
That's impossible. The school has 2,200 kids and they all fit on the home side during pep rallies.

You are correct, I'm wrong. The official capacity is 4500.

http://www.stadiumconnection.com/stadium.php?id=1226

Canes0177
07-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Who :)? I would love to see a program like St. Thomas Aquinas play a Texas team.

I'll start a thread about it in a minute.

You are correct, I'm wrong. The official capacity is 4500.

I was just going to say that I looked in an old media guide and it said 4,500.

Texasfrog
07-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Florida High School Athletic Association --- Florida's version of the UIL.

Might be Florida's version of the UIL. But they have about 1/4 the bite of the UIL.

Texasfrog
07-13-2008, 04:34 PM
????


I encourage you to to count the number of Floridians that make up the roster of FAU in August when one of their players is running down field past a group of Longhorns.

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Or maybe watch the tape of an historically bad Miami team thrashing Texas A&M.



We'll do on the first one. FAU kids running past Longhorns.

On the Miami Hurricanes beating Tx A&M.

You might want to give a little credit to two (Non-Florida kids) that help account for 28 pts in that game.

RB- Graig Cooper - Tennessee kid (2 td's against Tx A&M).
QB- Kyle Wright - California kid (2 touchdown passes).

Just pointing that out.;)

HebronHawk
07-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Unfortunately, St. Thomas Aquinas has the nicest stadium in all of Florida hands down, and it still doesn't even compare to the mediocre stadiums in Texas.

And, Cane is right, it has nothing to do with the FHSAA like I said before, but the FHSAA does have a rule that states that booster clubs cannot pay coaches, which is ABSURD.

It's the districts, communities, and administrations that hinder the schools with great talent from becoming total programs.

Florida = talent, talent, talent...not total programs. (excluding a few schools, Aquinas being one of them)

Booster Clubs can't pay the coaches salaries in Texas either but we can support the program in almost every other way.

Texasfrog
07-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Booster Clubs can't pay the coaches salaries in Texas either but we can support the program in almost every other way.

Ya, I kept hearing that.. "Booster Clubs paying for coaches," and I was thinking too myself. Where is that going on at because it aint Texas.

Now, if some of those Booster Club guys are Bank dudes. Well, I've heard of low interest loans for cars and ect.;)

DrEdward
07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Booster Clubs can't pay the coaches salaries in Texas either but we can support the program in almost every other way.

Correct. Texas booster clubs subject to UIL rules are prohibited from making any direct payment to the coaches. Strictly speaking, any support for equipment, travel or other contributions by the Booster Club must be approved by the school board of the district involved.

HUM398
07-13-2008, 11:32 PM
Ya, I kept hearing that.. "Booster Clubs paying for coaches," and I was thinking too myself. Where is that going on at because it aint Texas.

Now, if some of those Booster Club guys are Bank dudes. Well, I've heard of low interest loans for cars and ect.;)

Especially in the smaller towns. You have the Realtor, the Banker, The Store owner, and the Resturant GM... Can make life really easy for a Coach if they win.

As for the coaches salary. Most coaches get the pay they do because they have to teach a class and pick up other duties during the school period.

For example, usually the higher-payed Head coaches are school athletic directors (not sure what they really do, maybe additional paper work...For the most par the District AD handles scheduling, and budget.)

Others may be Head of Health department. Its really all title to justify the pay they receive. Lufkin coach Outlaw is the highest payed Coach last time pay was reported or at least the reports ive seen. he makes 103K

Your suburban school's in Dallas and Houston are going to pay MUCH better then your city schools. Dallas pays their coaches better then GHA for the most part.

Jayhawker
07-15-2008, 11:02 AM
Valdosta GA has a long storied program with some nice facilities; not on par with these but they are a LONG standing program:
http://www.valdostafootball.com/home.aspx
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/2004/valdosta/flash.htm

GBMonster76
07-15-2008, 06:06 PM
Correct. Texas booster clubs subject to UIL rules are prohibited from making any direct payment to the coaches. Strictly speaking, any support for equipment, travel or other contributions by the Booster Club must be approved by the school board of the district involved.

If booster clubs in Texas cannot pay the coaches, then how are some Texas HS football coaches making 100K and they are coaching at public schools? Are the stipends worth 50K for God's sake?

chhspantherfan
07-15-2008, 06:16 PM
If booster clubs in Texas cannot pay the coaches, then how are some Texas HS football coaches making 100K and they are coaching at public schools? Are the stipends worth 50K for God's sake?


this will help

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/highschools/index_salaries.html

nevaplayedk9
07-15-2008, 06:33 PM
now if their colleges can stop recruiting from the great state of texas, we'll all be alright:D

HebronHawk
07-16-2008, 07:33 AM
If booster clubs in Texas cannot pay the coaches, then how are some Texas HS football coaches making 100K and they are coaching at public schools? Are the stipends worth 50K for God's sake?

I suspect that the answer is that the payrolls for public schools in Texas are bigger than Florida.

Coaches salaries, whether they are 100K or not, come from the taxpayers of the school district.

trojanbacker
07-16-2008, 07:39 AM
I can think of few worse ideas than paying a coach from booster funds.

Canes0177
07-17-2008, 06:10 PM
The article cleared up a lot of questions.

Obviously the big school districts have less resources to go around among many schools so their coaches are some of the lowest paid in the state.

Same here. The only difference is even the smaller districts with one high school don't approach 90k for coaching salaries.

Georgetown04
07-18-2008, 07:58 AM
I graduated from Georgetown High in 2004 and I'm now living in CA. The Georgetown Eagles used to play in quite possibly the wrost facility in not just Texas, but maybe even the nation for a major 5A school. I've heard that G-town now has a brand-spankin' new facility. I was wondering if anyone in 16-5A land has seen the stadium and/or if you have an image of the stadium if you could please post the image of the GISD new complex. :)