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Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:09 AM
Who has the worst record being Defending State Champion?
Mr. Buddy Garrity
10-30-2005, 12:12 AM
Isn't it Lee?
dragons08
10-30-2005, 12:14 AM
Isn't it Lee?
do they even have a chance for playoffs?
owlfan 1
10-30-2005, 12:14 AM
:(

Hang in there, R.R. Your team won't be down for long... they played a lot of young players this year, they have a great coaching staff, and a tradition to build on. Lee will be back...

Don't know the answer to your question, though...
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:22 AM
do they even have a chance for playoffs?

Nope, we are exile from playoff now... did you not study our team still? lol
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:23 AM
Isn't it Lee?

I believe so...
panthermaniac
10-30-2005, 12:23 AM
Lee, you'll come back. We know how good you are. Now that Cujo has resurrected, I wish we could get our little district back. Wow, what fun.
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:23 AM
:(

Hang in there, R.R. Your team won't be down for long... they played a lot of young players this year, they have a great coaching staff, and a tradition to build on. Lee will be back...

Don't know the answer to your question, though...

maybe... some of the players might go back to Tyler John Tyler..
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:24 AM
Lee, you'll come back. We know how good you are. Now that Cujo has resurrected, I wish we could get our little district back. Wow, what fun.

Our team will even worse more next year because of the bad quarterback... we still don't have the players still again...
dragons08
10-30-2005, 12:26 AM
Nope, we are exile from playoff now... did you not study our team still? lol
havent been many threads about it so i havent really heard ot much, i know they were down, wasnt sure if they wre out of playoffs or what though, they dont really have tyler stuff in our newspaper, just DFW area stuff
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:33 AM
havent been many threads about it so i havent really heard ot much, i know they were down, wasnt sure if they wre out of playoffs or what though, they dont really have tyler stuff in our newspaper, just DFW area stuff

I see, but don't they show scores for all around Texas?
dragons08
10-30-2005, 12:57 AM
I see, but don't they show scores for all around Texas?
in a little font on the back page or something, its a pain to read through all of them, i just read about the area scores, then on here i look at threads and stuff
LeanderLions3033
10-30-2005, 09:25 PM
You guys, and wasnt Judson in the same situation as yall are when they won State back in 02?
PantherStang84
10-30-2005, 10:08 PM
REL will be back! I have no doubt in my mind. Yes, this year was a disapointment, but Coach O and his staff are too good to let the program just slip away. However, if he somehow leaves (which I don't see happening), the story changes! Keep your heads up. The General will be charging again soon enough. :)
BigArab
10-31-2005, 09:34 PM
maybe... some of the players might go back to Tyler John Tyler..

That attitude is what bothers me. There is zero loyalty in that city.
Cujo
10-31-2005, 09:42 PM
That attitude is what bothers me. There is zero loyalty in that city.
uhhhh...... I beg to differ with you on that one

there are still a few of us around here that don't like to ride on wagons
BigArab
10-31-2005, 09:45 PM
uhhhh...... I beg to differ with you on that one

there are still a few of us around here that don't like to ride on wagons

I'm not talking the old JT fans. Those that have stuck with them through thick and thin are true fans. These bandwagoners who are willing to drop their school in favor for whoever is winning is the prevailing ideal in that city.
The thought that REL players would just jump over to JT because JT is winning jsut upsets me. That's pathetic, but I wouldn't put it past Lee people.
dragonsdaddy
10-31-2005, 09:47 PM
the transferring back and forth bothers me as much as the privates playing in the uil. can they really go back and forth without any releases or uil control? if so, that's wrong and next to recruiting.
Cujo
10-31-2005, 09:53 PM
I'm not talking the old JT fans. Those that have stuck with them through thick and thin are true fans. These bandwagoners who are willing to drop their school in favor for whoever is winning is the prevailing ideal in that city.
The thought that REL players would just jump over to JT because JT is winning jsut upsets me. That's pathetic, but I wouldn't put it past Lee people.
I agree with that, I was just taking exception to the "zero loyalty in that city"

But all this player movement between the high schools makes me want more and more for Tyler to have one Senior High school, one in which would unite the whole city and make one unimaginably dominate athletic program that would be like Plano Senior High of last century. But that topic can wait till the end of the football season.
BigArab
10-31-2005, 09:57 PM
I agree with that, I was just taking exception to the "zero loyalty in that city"

But all this player movement between the high schools makes me want more and more for Tyler to have one Senior High school, one in which would unite the whole city and make one unimaginably dominate athletic program that would be like Plano Senior High of last century. But that topic can wait till the end of the football season.

It's a Pine Tree/ Longview situation. Hate to bring up the topic, but good luck trying to get smarmy, pompous white Tyler Lee people to integrate a larger black population. It won't happen. You'll suddenly see Grace Christian and TK Gorman with 4A numbers.
Cujo
10-31-2005, 10:06 PM
It's a Pine Tree/ Longview situation. Hate to bring up the topic, but good luck trying to get smarmy, pompous white Tyler Lee people to integrate a larger black population. It won't happen. You'll suddenly see Grace Christian and TK Gorman with 4A numbers.
Well they sure haven't had a problem bringing the best of 'em over to Lee to win them a State Championship. ;)

but yeah, you're right, but we'll just stop it there before KT stops this thread. lol
PackAttack2005
10-31-2005, 10:13 PM
I don't think there is a worst defending state champion, because there is a different make up of players the following year from the team that won the title. That's all I will say, I don't want Big A to think Lufkin is hijacking this thread.
BigArab
10-31-2005, 10:15 PM
I don't think there is a worst defending state champion, because there is a different make up of players the following year from the team that won the title. That's all I will say, I don't want Big A to think Lufkin is hijacking this thread.

Just you showing up spells its doom.
BigArab
10-31-2005, 10:16 PM
*waits for Lufkin fans to converge and talk about their superior defense*
PackAttack2005
10-31-2005, 10:20 PM
Just to stay on topic, I think Lee will return to the playoffs next year and I think they will have some company as JT returns as a playoff contender next season. Again, there are no worst state champions.
Cujo
10-31-2005, 10:24 PM
Just to stay on topic, I think Lee will return to the playoffs next year and I think they will have some company as JT returns as a playoff contender next season. Again, there are no worst state champions.
I think JT will have a much harder road to hoe then Lee will next year. JT will have very little experience coming back, losing 19 of 22 starters, while Lee is already looking and preparing for next year. It would be nice to see all East Texas teams in the playoffs again though.
LongviewLobo209
10-31-2005, 10:33 PM
East Texas has a bad habbit of producing a State Champion, and then the next year they wont make the playoffs(excluding Lufkin from 01').

Marshall in 1990.
JT in 73', and 2000.
Longview in 97'(state contender but didn't make playoffs in 98')
Tyler lee in 04'.
TexasRed6x
11-01-2005, 01:18 PM
You guys, and wasnt Judson in the same situation as yall are when they won State back in 02?


Not really we won more than 3 games the following year.
Redneckn
11-01-2005, 02:39 PM
It's a Pine Tree/ Longview situation. Hate to bring up the topic, but good luck trying to get smarmy, pompous white Tyler Lee people to integrate a larger black population. It won't happen. You'll suddenly see Grace Christian and TK Gorman with 4A numbers.


With that kind of attitude, why would they want to be there? I couldn't blame them for not wanting to be there.

There is a term for that.. Uh.. Reverse.. something.. What's that.. reverse..
Oh well. you know what I mean.. :mad:
BigArab
11-01-2005, 04:18 PM
With that kind of attitude, why would they want to be there? I couldn't blame them for not wanting to be there.

There is a term for that.. Uh.. Reverse.. something.. What's that.. reverse..
Oh well. you know what I mean.. :mad:

Its just a situation that I know has existed in Longview. There had been discussions of consolidation of LISD and PTISD, and the PT people wouldn't have it even if it did mean a larger budget.
Red Raiders
11-01-2005, 05:39 PM
Well they sure haven't had a problem bringing the best of 'em over to Lee to win them a State Championship. ;)

but yeah, you're right, but we'll just stop it there before KT stops this thread. lol

What makes me mad that JT students coming over to our school to play football and other activists and I am not getting it for that. I want that law to be fix where nobody come over our school for reason unless its a class or IB Program like some of the Lee studnets go to JT for IB program but thats a really good reason. For Football? I don't think... Coming over our school for sports is not acceptable because it seems to be cheating to other schools. 1st Year 3A Private School "Brook Hill" Football got 5 players from Lee is ok because these studnets paid for it and also 3A T.K. Gorman and Grace are large Private School in Tyler and I am not really sure if they have any Lee players but I am sure they do. Its just not acceptable for public school to do that.
LeanderLions3033
11-01-2005, 06:52 PM
Not really we won more than 3 games the following year.

Good lord. I'm not trying to rub anything in or anything but i didnt realize that they had only won 3 games.