View Full Version : Pathetic Fairweather Longview Fans!
BigArab
10-29-2005, 02:52 PM
All of these "fans" on the Longview board are writing them off. Saying that JT is going to beat them, that we won't go far in the playoffs! These kids deserve better fans than that! This is completely disgusting. They'll hate on the Tyler Lee fans for being fairweather, but OH NO, not us....that's only because our team has been blowing people out. A couple of close games, and suddenly we're a terrible team. Give me a break...this makes me want to throw up.
KT2000
10-29-2005, 03:12 PM
I know the Longview fans have had big expectations for this group, so hopefully they'll stand by them and realize that most teams in the state would give anything to be in the position the Lobos are in right now.
They may not have played the best game against North Mesquite, but the bottom line is they managed to get the win. That's all that matters now and in the playoffs.
Survive and advance.
All of these "fans" on the Longview board are writing them off. Saying that JT is going to beat them, that we won't go far in the playoffs! These kids deserve better fans than that! This is completely disgusting. They'll hate on the Tyler Lee fans for being fairweather, but OH NO, not us....that's only because our team has been blowing people out. A couple of close games, and suddenly we're a terrible team. Give me a break...this makes me want to throw up.
Not me, I still believe in our football team . . . but at the same time, being realistic, I have to admit they have been playing rather unLobolike. . . With that said, I also believe they will bounce back . . . in fact, what better time than going into the playoffs. There are two axioms that believe fit our present situation: 1) Where there is an obstacle - there is also opportunity and 2) When the going gets tough - the tough get going . . . Let's go Lobos, its time for the sleeping giant to awake!! A challenge to all Lobo supporters, remember this part of LV fight song: You do the scoring and we'll do the rest!!
LoboFan07
10-29-2005, 03:21 PM
Longview will have to play a better game than the past two weeks no doubt. But lets keep in mind, John Tyler barely beat North Mesquite also. 2 points IN TYLER..
I'll be highly surprised if JT beats us.
Longview will have to play a better game than the past two weeks no doubt. But lets keep in mind, John Tyler barely beat North Mesquite also. 2 points IN TYLER..
I'll be highly surprised if JT beats us.
I agree . . . I went to the JT - TL game and, well . . . its according to which LV team shows up. If the team of the last two weeks show up then JT has a chance; on the other hand, if the team of the first seven-weeks show up, well . . . that's a whole different story. As respectful as I can be, I believe that the latter will be the case . . .
Big Daddy Cool
10-29-2005, 03:39 PM
I think every team no matter how good they are or how bad they are has their share of fairweather fans. There ar ethose diehard that stay put when things are going good as well as when they are bad. And then there are those who call themselves fans but don't come out to support their team until playoff time. A tthe same time there are those that because of rough times they give up on the team and then have nothign but negative comments to say about them.
I think most coaches as well as players can tell the difference beteween their real supporters and jus tjumping on or off the bandwagon.
toonman
10-29-2005, 04:09 PM
Longview is in a similar situation to many other unbeaten schools; wining games easily and by big scores early in the season. Leading their district. This raises fans expectations of continuing big wins, sweeping district and a good run in the play-offs, if not at a State Championship as well. There are many teams with unbeaten records who will be contending for state. Longview is one of them. The recent games vs Rockwall and North Mesquite will make Longview a beater prepared team for the TJT game and better prepared for the playoffs. I agree with KT2000 – the Longview fans will there, standing by the team, especially when the annual match up against Lufkin occurs. That is one game I will watch out for with much interest.
Favpack
10-29-2005, 04:45 PM
Fortunately the players and coaches aren't fair-weather. I see no real reason for tremendous concern -- 16-17 year old kids are not machines.
PantherStang84
10-29-2005, 05:52 PM
There ar ethose diehard that stay put when things are going good as well as when they are bad.
Yep its funny actually. The fairweather fan is the one who rushes to the local sportiing goods store and drops a pile of money on anything with the local team logo. Piles in the car drives 3 or 4 hours to the playoff games. They're the ones asking who's number so and so?
The answer I always want give?
"Well if you weren't too busy to come to the regular season games, you would know by now wouldn't you?"
However, my wife will usually jab me in the ribs and tell me to be nice. :eek:
stallion2owl
10-29-2005, 06:34 PM
Rockwall and North Mesquite are well coached, quality 5A programs that are capable of putting together a good game and beating anyone. This is the time of year that young teams that lost because of inexperience should be coming together and competing at a higher level. But, the teams with better players (i.e. Longview and Tyler JT) should pull out the victories.
A victory is a victory... be thankful and continue to cheer. Fair weather fans pay for new uniforms and stadium renovations. Be pleased with the unexpected windfall and enjoy them (after all, they are your neighbors and on your side) along with your winning season.
bleedgreen
10-29-2005, 11:59 PM
i will always stand by my Lobos, win or lose...always have for the last almost 30 years.....but, i do have to say that i am a little puzzled with our last two performances.....not taking anything away from Rockwall or NM, they put together a great game plan to beat us...i just don't think we are playing like we should be.....NM----great game to you guys---you looked really good, nothing to be ashamed of........
pack0808
10-30-2005, 12:04 AM
i will always stand by my Lobos, win or lose...always have for the last almost 30 years.....but, i do have to say that i am a little puzzled with our last two performances.....not taking anything away from Rockwall or NM, they put together a great game plan to beat us...i just don't think we are playing like we should be.....NM----great game to you guys---you looked really good, nothing to be ashamed of........
Longview keeps reminding me more and more of Lufkin 2003. I could be very wrong but it is just a gut feeling?? Lufkin 2003 was a veteran team and was #1 in the state basically the whole year and demolished about everybody and then something just changed at the end of the season. Many thought they were a guarantee to win the state championship. At the end of the year they barely squeaked by team's like Jt who they killed earlier, and just did not look right. It was almost like they peaked too early?? Maybe i am completely wrong but this Longview team reminds me of them.
Red Raiders
10-30-2005, 12:08 AM
John Tyler beat Rockwall 26-16 and Longview beat Rockwall 35-34 in 1 second only so compare that with John Tyler and Longview... I won't be surprised if John Tyler beat Longview but I will be very glad if they beat Longview. It looks like Tyler Lee gave John Tyler some skills and now we are collapsed like trading team and skills.
John Tyler beat Rockwall 26-16 and Longview beat Rockwall 35-34 in 1 second only so compare that with John Tyler and Longview... I won't be surprised if John Tyler beat Longview but I will be very glad if they beat Longview. It looks like Tyler Lee gave John Tyler some skills and now we are collapsed like trading team and skills.
Brilliant analysis . . . lets see, Longview beat Mesquite Horn 52-14 while JT beat them 15-6 and ah, John Tyler Beat TL 42-7 (14-7 at the half) while LV had TL 35-7 at the half and coasted and ah, JT loses to Kilgore, who was beaten by Marshall who was beaten by LV 28-16 . . . come on, let the comparisons go . . . If you want to use comparison games then clearly LV has the upper hand . . . But here's the kicker, this one will be played on the field, not on a calculator. See you at Lobo Staduim baby, friday night . . .
c-lisle
10-30-2005, 06:56 AM
All of these "fans" on the Longview board are writing them off. Saying that JT is going to beat them, that we won't go far in the playoffs! These kids deserve better fans than that! This is completely disgusting. They'll hate on the Tyler Lee fans for being fairweather, but OH NO, not us....that's only because our team has been blowing people out. A couple of close games, and suddenly we're a terrible team. Give me a break...this makes me want to throw up.
i think this is good to a extent. something needs to get these players back on track. JT will beat us if we play like the last two games. we have a very good team but have not played like it the last two games.
c-lisle
10-30-2005, 07:02 AM
....but, i do have to say that i am a little puzzled with our last two performances....
has anyone else noticed how we started th last two games.....throwing. longview runs first and passes second. it seems we can't make up our mind which one we want to do. i hope we go back to running right at them this week.
PantherStang84
10-30-2005, 07:52 AM
Longview keeps reminding me more and more of Lufkin 2003.
Good Gawd Pack, why did you have to bring that nightmare back? I certainly hope that is not the case in Lobo land. That was such a painful experiencing watching a great football team self-destruct. I wouldn't wish that experience on any anyone.
c-lisle
10-30-2005, 08:01 AM
Maybe i am completely wrong
maybe
myround0
10-30-2005, 10:46 AM
I like the author of this post and he knows it, but to call our fans fairweather, I take umbrage with that, I think the correct description would be concerned fans. Many times people become accustom to ways, and 52-14 games are exceptable while 21-14 wins aren't. People sit a little uneasy with those results. I would say this, when it gets to this point in the season all it does is ask the players and coaches who wants it the most. All of your secret plays have been shown, all your schemes have been shown, all your weaknesses have been exposed, after 7 or eight games everyone knows what everyone wants to do, look at Trinity and their huge o-line, look at SLC and they huge passing game, Longview and its huge running attack, district teams know what you are trying to do, and you see fewer blowout and more upsets this time of the season. The first, second, and third weeks of the playoffs, are more likely to produce a blow out then the final two or three weeks of the season. I would say Lobos fans are faithful, however they are concrened at this point, but to call them fair-weather, NO LOBO FAN IS FAIRWEATHER 68 YEARS since the last state title proves that.
I like the author of this post and he knows it, but to call our fans fairweather, I take umbrage with that, I think the correct description would be concerned fans. Many times people become accustom to ways, and 52-14 games are exceptable while 21-14 wins aren't. People sit a little uneasy with those results. I would say this, when it gets to this point in the season all it does is ask the players and coaches who wants it the most. All of your secret plays have been shown, all your schemes have been shown, all your weaknesses have been exposed, after 7 or eight games everyone knows what everyone wants to do, look at Trinity and their huge o-line, look at SLC and they huge passing game, Longview and its huge running attack, district teams know what you are trying to do, and you see fewer blowout and more upsets this time of the season. The first, second, and third weeks of the playoffs, are more likely to produce a blow out then the final two or three weeks of the season. I would say Lobos fans are faithful, however they are concrened at this point, but to call them fair-weather, NO LOBO FAN IS FAIRWEATHER 68 YEARS since the last state title proves that.
Amen . . . excellent analogy. But I think more important is the fact that following the televised game LV opponents got pumped about playing LV while on the other hand, LV went flat . . . now LV's District Title is on the line and some people are doubting them (the same team many LV fans believed to be invincible) - now they have a reason to get pumped themselves. I can't help but believe they will come out hitting on all cylinders . . . just in time for the playoffs . . . Move the chain!!! ;)
PackAttack2005
10-30-2005, 01:43 PM
Just a thought, because I have nothing in this fight. However, I was wondering what the mindset of the Lobo loyalist will be if the unthinkable happens and JT upsets the Lobos for the district title? My thinking is, as in ALL TRUE FANS you stick with your team, but if it were to happen to my Panthers I would worry and be thinking of 2003 all over again. That was a nightmare. We had a team that was considered a better overall team than our State team in 2001 and we ran out gas and crumbled in the first round against Garland. If you are really a true Lobo fan, stick with them and don't worry about the whiners.
Just a thought, because I have nothing in this fight. However, I was wondering what the mindset of the Lobo loyalist will be if the unthinkable happens and JT upsets the Lobos for the district title? My thinking is, as in ALL TRUE FANS you stick with your team, but if it were to happen to my Panthers I would worry and be thinking of 2003 all over again. That was a nightmare. We had a team that was considered a better overall team than our State team in 2001 and we ran ouf gas and crumbled in the first round against Garland. If you are really a true Lobo fan, stick with them and don't worry about the whiners.
I remember 1986 like it was yesterday . . . several tough wins down the stretch and then a very disappointing regular season ending loss to LV-Pine Tree 10-9 heading into the playoffs . . . Longview fans were sooooo disappointed they could hardly breathe - what (!!!), a loss to Pine Tree (?), oh the agony. . . Everybody thought we were doomed in the playoffs . . . but low and behold, LV went on a tare before losing to eventual state champions Plano 17-12 . . . only two games away from playing in the state championship; and a game we played well enough to win . . . What I'm saying is that you never know what a loss or a near loss will do to or for a team - sometimes it builds character. . . But like you all did, lose in the first round to Garland, what a stunner!!! Nobody in LV could believe it . . . I can barely understand how you must have felt . . . Although I don't want to lose, Lord knows I'd rather lose now than in the playoffs - especially the first round - from there - there are no second chances . . . No doubt, I am a Lobo fan and I will stick by them through thick and thin . . . . . . . .
grayowl60
10-30-2005, 02:36 PM
I remember 1986 like it was yesterday . . . several tough wins down the stretch and then a very disappointing regular season ending loss to LV-Pine Tree 10-9 heading into the playoffs . . . Longview fans were sooooo disappointed they could hardly breathe - what (!!!), a loss to Pine Tree (?), oh the agony. . . Everybody thought we were doomed in the playoffs . . . but low and behold, LV went on a tare before losing to eventual state champions Plano 17-12 . . . only two games away from playing in the state championship; and a game we played well enough to win . . . What I'm saying is that you never know what a loss or a near loss will do to or for a team - sometimes it builds character. . . But like you all did, lose in the first round to Garland, what a stunner!!! Nobody in LV could believe it . . . I can barely understand how you must have felt . . . Although I don't want to lose, Lord knows I'd rather lose now than in the playoffs - especially the first round - from there - there are no second chances . . . No doubt, I am a Lobo fan and I will stick by them through thick and thin . . . . . . . .
Well, everybody in East Texas knows that Lufkin and Longview had the flu in 03 when they lost to Garland and South in the first round. NO CHANCE they lost to better teams ;)
Well, everybody in East Texas knows that Lufkin and Longview had the flu in 03 when they lost to Garland and South in the first round. NO CHANCE they lost to better teams ;)
I can't speak on the LV vs. SG game since I was several states away . . . unfortunately or should I say fortunately this was one of the games that I missed . . . Although I was somewhat surprised at the LV loss (if my recollection is right - that was a very close game that went into OT), I was flabbergasted when I heard that LP had lost . . . That whole season was a bit taxing - playing in that round robin format I believe took its toll . . . I know it did on us (7-4). Regardless, I'm sure you are right, the best teams did win . . . . Good luck this year. :rolleyes:
pack0808
10-30-2005, 07:34 PM
Well, everybody in East Texas knows that Lufkin and Longview had the flu in 03 when they lost to Garland and South in the first round. NO CHANCE they lost to better teams ;)
grayowl i know you were just kidding but if you would have seen that 03 Lufkin team you would have thought the same thing. They really looked unbeatable vs top 10 teams and i will not even mention the Katy game again because Ktcarl will give me a hard time. ;) Really, they were loaded with talent but they were missing chemistry and a good qb at the end of the year. That 2003 defense had 8 eventual div1a players. The most talented Lufkin team i have ever seen overall and that is saying something. They fell apart there is no other explanation. Even Garland fans thought they did not have a prayer. Not taking anything away from Garland they deserved the win. By the way, Lufkin manhandled Longview in 03 in both games. Sad to see that team go down that quick!!
ktCarl
10-30-2005, 08:12 PM
grayowl i know you were just kidding but if you would have seen that 03 Lufkin team you would have thought the same thing. They really looked unbeatable vs top 10 teams and i will not even mention the Katy game again because Ktcarl will give me a hard time. ;) Really, they were loaded with talent but they were missing chemistry and a good qb at the end of the year. That 2003 defense had 8 eventual div1a players. The most talented Lufkin team i have ever seen overall and that is saying something. They fell apart there is no other explanation. Even Garland fans thought they did not have a prayer. Not taking anything away from Garland they deserved the win. By the way, Lufkin manhandled Longview in 03 in both games. Sad to see that team go down that quick!!
I thought '03 Lufkin lost to SLC in the semis.
pack0808
10-30-2005, 08:22 PM
I thought '03 Lufkin lost to SLC in the semis.
No that was in 2002 and 2004. They lost to SLC 33-30 in 2002 and 37-30 in 2004!! Lufkin just blew a big lead late in 2002 and it was very shocking to say the least. Ok i do not want to got back to that game because i get nauseated so scratch that. :eek:
By the way, Lufkin manhandled Longview in 03 in both games. Sad to see that team go down that quick!!
OKkkkk, you won both games but it was far from manhandling . . . I checked the record book and the scores were 35-21 and 14-0, both games were hard fought and you know it!! I had to go back and check the records because I thought the whipping was so bad (manhandled) that I had passed out. . . then I did a reality check, we always battle until the end. Being manhandled is not part of our constitution. Obviously you guys had the better team, but manhandled - I think not . . . Come on now - be nice. :rolleyes:
pack0808
10-30-2005, 10:01 PM
OKkkkk, you won both games but it was far from manhandling . . . I checked the record book and the scores were 35-21 and 14-0, both games were hard fought and you know it!! I had to go back and check the records because I thought the whipping was so bad (manhandled) that I had passed out. . . then I did a reality check, we always battle until the end. Being manhandled is not part of our constitution. Obviously you guys had the better team, but manhandled - I think not . . . Come on now - be nice. :rolleyes:
You have to be kidding me right?? LOL WOW!! If going up 35-7 at home and putting all of your 2nd stringers in mid way in the 3rd quarter and still winning 35-21 is not dominating then i would question your sanity?? If shutting a team out on their home field 14-0 when the score should have really been 21-0 ( ask any honest Lobo fan about the play before halftime when Lufkin really scored) if that is not dominating what exactly is?? Shutting out a team on their own field is beyond dominating!! Did you miss those games?? You must have?? The first one was an absolute blow out at Abe like i said that looked better because Lufkin put their 2nd stringers in way early and called off the dog's. Ask anybody that was there if i am lying!! The score was 35-7 when they put the 2nd string in wake up dude!! Think or collect fact's before you call somebody out!! ;)
grayowl60
10-30-2005, 10:10 PM
I thought '03 Lufkin lost to SLC in the semis.
Garland beat Lufkin 19-10 I believe, at Ennis, in the first round in 03. I dont know about Lufkins problems, but I Know the Owls were wired after the garbage game in 02 against LV. Garland lost to allen in OT at Plano in a 40mph wind, the next week. I remember one of Garlands FG tries looked good, then was blown back to about the 10 :mad: . One of the blow up tunnels started to take off in the wind taking some of the boys working on it. Anyway, I think Allen lost the next week to SLC.
grayowl60
10-30-2005, 10:38 PM
Longview keeps reminding me more and more of Lufkin 2003. I could be very wrong but it is just a gut feeling?? Lufkin 2003 was a veteran team and was #1 in the state basically the whole year and demolished about everybody and then something just changed at the end of the season. Many thought they were a guarantee to win the state championship. At the end of the year they barely squeaked by team's like Jt who they killed earlier, and just did not look right. It was almost like they peaked too early?? Maybe i am completely wrong but this Longview team reminds me of them.
You guys know that when a team is sure of a playoff spot, they will not show much in the last district games. the "w" is all that matters. I saw the first half of the NM vs Lv game, and LV was "under wraps". I saw several Garland ISD folks heading for the pressbox. And, I saw some Longview and Tyler ISD Cars at HBJ for the Garland -Rowlett game, Thursday night.
c-lisle
10-31-2005, 06:04 AM
You have to be kidding me right?? LOL WOW!! If going up 35-7 at home and putting all of your 2nd stringers in mid way in the 3rd quarter and still winning 35-21 is not dominating then i would question your sanity?? If shutting a team out on their home field 14-0 when the score should have really been 21-0 ( ask any honest Lobo fan about the play before halftime when Lufkin really scored) if that is not dominating what exactly is?? Shutting out a team on their own field is beyond dominating!! Did you miss those games?? You must have?? The first one was an absolute blow out at Abe like i said that looked better because Lufkin put their 2nd stringers in way early and called off the dog's. Ask anybody that was there if i am lying!! The score was 35-7 when they put the 2nd string in wake up dude!! Think or collect fact's before you call somebody out!! ;)
Pack please take the purple shades off. I'll give you the 35-21 game.....LP handled Lview easy enough. But the 14-0 game c'mon, that is not manhandling.
c-lisle
10-31-2005, 06:05 AM
You have to be kidding me right?? LOL WOW!! If going up 35-7 at home and putting all of your 2nd stringers in mid way in the 3rd quarter and still winning 35-21 is not dominating then i would question your sanity?? If shutting a team out on their home field 14-0 when the score should have really been 21-0 ( ask any honest Lobo fan about the play before halftime when Lufkin really scored) if that is not dominating what exactly is?? Shutting out a team on their own field is beyond dominating!! Did you miss those games?? You must have?? The first one was an absolute blow out at Abe like i said that looked better because Lufkin put their 2nd stringers in way early and called off the dog's. Ask anybody that was there if i am lying!! The score was 35-7 when they put the 2nd string in wake up dude!! Think or collect fact's before you call somebody out!! ;)
And I believe we held Lane under 100 yds in the second game.
PackAttack2005
10-31-2005, 07:46 AM
Who cares about the past, I would be concerned right now how my team was performing going into the playoffs. Frankly, with a week off before your game @ NM, I would have expected better from the Lobos. Maybe you guys peaked too soon, after all you have had these grandios expectation all year and been riding on a high, maybe things have gone flat waiting for the playoffs. I would be concerned, because it is not all that easy to turn the intensity on or off just when you think you need it. Film doesn't lie and maybe these other teams have figured something out about the Lobos.
JT will be sky high coming into Lobo Stadium on Friday, they will not be intimidated because they know the success Rockwall had there. Of course playing the Lobos right now is like fighting a wounded animal they can still hurt you because they still have the talent and the experience to get the job done on any given night. If the Lobos don't play well in this game, I would be worried, if they play like they did in the first part of the season then maybe you will be back on track. Big 12-5A district game on Friday. i think it's a toss up.
pack0808
10-31-2005, 08:30 AM
And I believe we held Lane under 100 yds in the second game.
So what Lufkin still scored with ease and Lane had a bunch of total yards because he caught some passes for big yardage. Purple shades?? Ask any neutral observer that attended those games if Lufkin did not manhandle them. Did Longview even cross midfield in the 14-0 loss?? ;) Either way PA is right who cares that is in the past and it matters not for our teams this year!! I choose to see it differently because i know what i saw but you have a right to your opinion also. GL vs JT this week.
c-lisle
10-31-2005, 08:47 AM
[QUOTE=pack0808] Did Longview even cross midfield in the 14-0 loss?? ;) QUOTE]
Yes we crossed midfield. Freeman ran into the red zone only to fumble the ball away going for extra yardage.
c-lisle
10-31-2005, 08:49 AM
Who cares about the past, I would be concerned right now how my team was performing going into the playoffs. Frankly, with a week off before your game @ NM, I would have expected better from the Lobos. Maybe you guys peaked too soon, after all you have had these grandios expectation all year and been riding on a high, maybe things have gone flat waiting for the playoffs. I would be concerned, because it is not all that easy to turn the intensity on or off just when you think you need it. Film doesn't lie and maybe these other teams have figured something out about the Lobos.
JT will be sky high coming into Lobo Stadium on Friday, they will not be intimidated because they know the success Rockwall had there. Of course playing the Lobos right now is like fighting a wounded animal they can still hurt you because they still have the talent and the experience to get the job done on any given night. If the Lobos don't play well in this game, I would be worried, if they play like they did in the first part of the season then maybe you will be back on track. Big 12-5A district game on Friday. i think it's a toss up.
I guess we will see how this team responds this Friday. I woldn't be surprised to see a blowout with Lview winning big. Vondrell should have a great game since his performance was so bad last week. Then again I wouldn't be surprised to see a close game and if Longview doesn't return to true form.....a loss.
You have to be kidding me right?? LOL WOW!! If going up 35-7 at home and putting all of your 2nd stringers in mid way in the 3rd quarter and still winning 35-21 is not dominating then i would question your sanity?? If shutting a team out on their home field 14-0 when the score should have really been 21-0 ( ask any honest Lobo fan about the play before halftime when Lufkin really scored) if that is not dominating what exactly is?? Shutting out a team on their own field is beyond dominating!! Did you miss those games?? You must have?? The first one was an absolute blow out at Abe like i said that looked better because Lufkin put their 2nd stringers in way early and called off the dog's. Ask anybody that was there if i am lying!! The score was 35-7 when they put the 2nd string in wake up dude!! Think or collect fact's before you call somebody out!! ;)
What in the hell has gotten under your skin . . . I never called you or anyone else out . . . One of my kid's favorite sayings is "why do you always want to talk about old stuff." We could go round and round in circles with this "old stuff" - e.g., we won in 1985 24-10, 1989 17-0, 1990 24-16, 1992, 1993, 1996, and 1997 (28-17 on your field - after trailing at the half) - - what does any of this have to do with today - this year, 2005, nothing (nada), not a hill of beans!! Chill out man - take a chill pill why don't you. I have never had anything but respect for you guys and even when we did beat you by 14 (or more) I never said that we "manhandled" LP. I KNOW YOU HAD A GREAT TEAM THAT YEAR (2003), that's why I was more shocked with your first round loss to Garland than I was with our loss to SG. And so what, in recent history you've had our number as I am sure that some time in the near future we'll have yours again . . . that's what life is man, it's cyclical; in other words, what goes around, comes around . . . Why don't we let cooler heads prevail. :cool:
PackAttack2005
10-31-2005, 01:58 PM
Man you have some cojones responding to Pack08 like that, you will get something back from him on that one. Happy Halloween!
raidercheerdad
10-31-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm thinking that some of the posters on this site need to read lonny's thread on civility! J/K I love watching you guys go at it.
Man you have some cojones responding to Pack08 like that, you will get something back from him on that one. Happy Halloween!
Responding like that, like what? For responding to him the way he came at me - challenging my sanity. I did not initiate the verbal abuse, he did. . . So what, am I supposed to be scared . . . WOOOoooooooo, I'm shaking. I am a man just like he is - in order to get respect, you've got to give it!! :cool:
PackAttack2005
10-31-2005, 03:22 PM
I only said you would get a response and were tough to stand your ground with him. If you didn't notice, the other Longview guys didn't respond either. You WILL get a response from him. You may need to find a TOOLman costume for Halloween.
I only said you would get a response and were tough to stand your ground with him. If you didn't notice, the other Longview guys didn't respond either. You WILL get a response from him. You may need to find a TOOLman costume for Halloween?
I appreciate the warning . . . keep in mind, I write for a living - this is what I do. . . In other words, have no fear, underdog is here. :cool: Again, I have the utmost respect for LP, I thought you guys had the same (mutual) respect for us . . . Happy Halloween to you too. ;)
BigArab
10-31-2005, 09:35 PM
Once again....way to hijack the threads LUFKIN fans. Go start one of your own threads called "Lufkin is the greatest and I'll tell you why..." and leave this one alone. Gah! :mad:
bleedgreen
11-01-2005, 09:00 AM
John Tyler beat Rockwall 26-16 and Longview beat Rockwall 35-34 in 1 second only so compare that with John Tyler and Longview... I won't be surprised if John Tyler beat Longview but I will be very glad if they beat Longview. It looks like Tyler Lee gave John Tyler some skills and now we are collapsed like trading team and skills.
really, your analysis doesn't hold any water......i don't know what you think JT gave you, but i can tell you one thing they gave you-----a really good kick right in the teeth....oh, and so did we......................... :D
pack0808
11-01-2005, 10:24 AM
Man you have some cojones responding to Pack08 like that, you will get something back from him on that one. Happy Halloween!
Nah i am working on becoming a civil poster that is able to show more restraint when in a disagreement. It is a work in progress.LOL I will do so in this thread. I do not get angry as some think i do i am just very blunt and opinionated and can be a major smart A like many others can. I never have threatened to kick anybody's teeth out!! (LOL Bleed) Where was the so called verbal abuse joec!! Was it the you have to be kidding line or the WOW line?? LMAO That is some big time verbal abuse right there huh?? :rolleyes: I simply made my points emphatically and it was far far from verbal abuse come on. LOL I was not mad when i responded to you i was simply making my point about those games that i call manhandling because i saw them with my own eyes and that was my opinion of those games. 1 of the games was very very ugly but the score was very deceiving due to Lufkin calling off the dogs and putting the subs in. It is just the fact's it is ok!! I would be the first to admit it if Lufkin got manhandled. The FIRST!! you are right it is just the past so what. But one little thing on the past!! The difference is when you look up success like that vs Lufkin you have to go all the way back to the 90's ;) But either way, i too respect Longview as a program and as a team. I just disagreed with your comment about those particular games nothing more.
pack0808
11-01-2005, 10:31 AM
Once again....way to hijack the threads LUFKIN fans. Go start one of your own threads called "Lufkin is the greatest and I'll tell you why..." and leave this one alone. Gah! :mad:
That is beyond hysterical!! Arab the mad surgeon is losing his mind a little more lately!! ;) Should i really have to go back and cut and paste all of the times Longview fans come in or as you call it "hijack"!! our precious panther threads. Yeah and Longview fans never ever brag about their great team. Never!! It is just unheard of!! LOL It is definitely the pot calling the kettle black!!
wide-e-wide
11-01-2005, 01:20 PM
Pack0808 is working on becoming a more civil poster...therefore...I must take up his slack in the smartass remarks department. I take over these duties with a great deal of honor...and a tear in my eye.
RIP
Smartass Pack0808
1974-2005
"He was a among the greatest sh..-talkers of all time"
He will be missed.
pack0808
11-01-2005, 05:12 PM
Pack0808 is working on becoming a more civil poster...therefore...I must take up his slack in the smartass remarks department. I take over these duties with a great deal of honor...and a tear in my eye.
RIP
Smartass Pack0808
1974-2005
"He was a among the greatest sh..-talkers of all time"
He will be missed.
LMAO wide!! I said i was working on being more civil!! I did not say i was completely calling it off. ;) But now i know if i ever do completely call it off, my boy wide has my back and i know he is more then capable of handling my SA duties along with his!!
Red Raiders
11-01-2005, 05:21 PM
really, your analysis doesn't hold any water......i don't know what you think JT gave you, but i can tell you one thing they gave you-----a really good kick right in the teeth....oh, and so did we......................... :D
You think so? we will see...
Nah i am working on becoming a civil poster that is able to show more restraint when in a disagreement.
I never have threatened to kick anybody's teeth out!! (LOL Bleed) Where was the so called verbal abuse joec!! Was it the you have to be kidding line or the WOW line?? LMAO That is some big time verbal abuse right there huh?? :rolleyes: I simply made my points emphatically and it was far far from verbal abuse come on.
I agree, we should [all] have the right to disagree. My position concerning implications of verbal abuse stems from your written words, "I would question your sanity"; so I guess I should have been literal and instead, I should have said "written abuse". To understand my point we must first define the word sanity.
Sanity (according to American Heritage College Dictionary): The quality or condition of being sane; soundness of mind, mentally healthy. . .
The implication is that since I disagree with your opinion then my sanity must surely be in question. If this is not saying I must be crazy (insane in the mem-brain) . . . then by all means, not only question my sanity but also question my cognition in regard to being able to recognize an insult (arrogant insensitivity) when I hear (see) one. A real good test of objectivity is to turn the situation 180 degrees and ask yourself "what if he (JoeC) had said this to me - what would have been my reaction." I shudder the thought!!
Now with that out the way, I will be first to raise the noble flag of truce - as long as we understand that this is an act of reciprocation and not capitulation . :cool: Good luck on the rest of your season . . . :)
bleedgreen
11-02-2005, 12:04 AM
You think so? we will see...
think?? what is there to think about---you did get your teeth kicked out to a tune of 42-7 by JT and 35-7 by us...really nothing to think about, is there?? don't rain on our parade because Lee's season didn't turn out like you wanted it to...but, i guess since your season is basically over, why not jump on the JT bandwagon?? they are from Tyler, right??
c-lisle
11-02-2005, 07:28 AM
Nah i am working on becoming a civil poster that is able to show more restraint when in a disagreement. It is a work in progress.LOL I will do so in this thread. I do not get angry as some think i do i am just very blunt and opinionated and can be a major smart A like many others can. I never have threatened to kick anybody's teeth out!! (LOL Bleed) Where was the so called verbal abuse joec!! Was it the you have to be kidding line or the WOW line?? LMAO That is some big time verbal abuse right there huh?? :rolleyes: I simply made my points emphatically and it was far far from verbal abuse come on. LOL I was not mad when i responded to you i was simply making my point about those games that i call manhandling because i saw them with my own eyes and that was my opinion of those games. 1 of the games was very very ugly but the score was very deceiving due to Lufkin calling off the dogs and putting the subs in. It is just the fact's it is ok!! I would be the first to admit it if Lufkin got manhandled. The FIRST!! you are right it is just the past so what. But one little thing on the past!! The difference is when you look up success like that vs Lufkin you have to go all the way back to the 90's ;) But either way, i too respect Longview as a program and as a team. I just disagreed with your comment about those particular games nothing more.
I'm so proud of you pack. LOL
pack0808
11-02-2005, 08:36 AM
I agree, we should [all] have the right to disagree. My position concerning implications of verbal abuse stems from your written words, "I would question your sanity"; so I guess I should have been literal and instead, I should have said "written abuse". To understand my point we must first define the word sanity.
Sanity (according to American Heritage College Dictionary): The quality or condition of being sane; soundness of mind, mentally healthy. . .
The implication is that since I disagree with your opinion then my sanity must surely be in question. If this is not saying I must be crazy (insane in the mem-brain) . . . then by all means, not only question my sanity but also question my cognition in regard to being able to recognize an insult (arrogant insensitivity) when I hear (see) one. A real good test of objectivity is to turn the situation 180 degrees and ask yourself "what if he (JoeC) had said this to me - what would have been my reaction." I shudder the thought!!
Now with that out the way, I will be first to raise the noble flag of truce - as long as we understand that this is an act of reciprocation and not capitulation . :cool: Good luck on the rest of your season . . . :)
Now that was a deep analysis but a good one. LOL When i said i question your sanity about that particular subect i was just making more of a point not actually questioning your true sanity. I guess i could have chosen a different set of words to express my opinion i apologize. But hey joec!!, I have been called many names in here believe me!! I do not blow a vein in my forehead when it happens but i will usually respond rather harshly. ;) But i am working on it. Again, no need in a truce because i was never mad at you in the first place. I was just being enthusiastic about my position on a sporting event that i witnessed nothing more!! Ditto to you and your team.
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