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WestPlano006
06-18-2008, 11:40 PM
Over the last 10 years, here are the teams with the best home records:

1. Oklahoma 60-7 .896
2. Boise State 64-8 .889
3. Ohio State 65-10 .867
4. Michigan 63-10 .863
5. Texas 55-9 .859
6. Florida 59-10 .855
7. Toledo 56-10 .848
8. Marshall 53-10 .841
9. Nebraska 63-12 .840

Where's LSU? Tennessee? Georgia? USC? Notre Dame? Penn State? I thought they were considered to be "hostile" places to play.

yankee
06-18-2008, 11:44 PM
marshall? did they have like a run of near undefeated seasons or something in the late 90's and/or early 2000's? oh and hell yeah for that number 1 team!

jakerz
06-18-2008, 11:46 PM
When did Marshall become good?

TXFOOSBALL
06-18-2008, 11:46 PM
Over the last 10 years, here are the teams with the best home records:

1. Oklahoma 60-7 .896
2. Boise State 64-8 .889
3. Ohio State 65-10 .867
4. Michigan 63-10 .863
5. Texas 55-9 .859
6. Florida 59-10 .855
7. Toledo 56-10 .848
8. Marshall 53-10 .841
9. Nebraska 63-12 .840

Where's LSU? Tennessee? Georgia? USC? Notre Dame? Penn State? I thought they were considered to be "hostile" places to play.

I know what happened to ND.....last season

WestPlano006
06-18-2008, 11:52 PM
marshall? did they have like a run of near undefeated seasons or something in the late 90's and/or early 2000's? oh and hell yeah for that number 1 team!

Yeah... that was surprising.

btw.. Nice sig :notworthy

jtk1519
06-19-2008, 01:05 AM
Where's LSU? Tennessee? Georgia? USC? Notre Dame? Penn State? I thought they were considered to be "hostile" places to play.

LSU was not very good prior to Satan being hired in 2000. Neyland is intimidating because of the size of the crowd... not the product on the field. I've never heard Sanford Stadium referred to as "hostile" so I don't know why UGA is on there. USC... see LSU. They sucked prior to Carroll. Notre Dame has never... ever been called "hostile" unless the ghost of Rockne shows up or something. Penn State... see Tennessee.

You are making a serious mistake trying to equate winning % with a hostile environment. Look at the 4 of the 5 best home records. Nobody in their right mind would consider GAYlord, Bronco Stadium, Michigan Stadium or DKR "hostile". You will however always hear the term "hostile" applied to venues like Autzen Stadium (Oregon), Tiger Stadium (LSU), The Swamp (Florida), Lane Stadium (VaTech), etc., but none of those teams are on that list of best winning percentages.

WestPlano006
06-19-2008, 09:07 AM
LSU was not very good prior to Satan being hired in 2000. Neyland is intimidating because of the size of the crowd... not the product on the field. I've never heard Sanford Stadium referred to as "hostile" so I don't know why UGA is on there. USC... see LSU. They sucked prior to Carroll. Notre Dame has never... ever been called "hostile" unless the ghost of Rockne shows up or something. Penn State... see Tennessee.

You are making a serious mistake trying to equate winning % with a hostile environment. Look at the 4 of the 5 best home records. Nobody in their right mind would consider GAYlord, Bronco Stadium, Michigan Stadium or DKR "hostile". You will however always hear the term "hostile" applied to venues like Autzen Stadium (Oregon), Tiger Stadium (LSU), The Swamp (Florida), Lane Stadium (VaTech), etc., but none of those teams are on that list of best winning percentages.

I am not trying to say that winning % at home is better if you are a hostile place, I am trying to show that it means almost nothing. Florida is on the list, and they are the only team on their that plays at a hostile stadium. Ohio stadium isn't bad at all unless Michigan is in town.

Oklahoma was not good at all before Stoops was hired either, 5 of their losses at home came before Stoops was hired, who has lost only 2.

Btw, was GAYlord a typo? Sticky shift key? :D

wesaxman34
06-19-2008, 09:53 AM
When did Marshall become good?

Not since the Randy Moss days.

DrEdward
06-19-2008, 10:32 AM
Over the last 10 years, here are the teams with the best home records:

1. Oklahoma 60-7 .896
2. Boise State 64-8 .889
3. Ohio State 65-10 .867
4. Michigan 63-10 .863
5. Texas 55-9 .859
6. Florida 59-10 .855
7. Toledo 56-10 .848
8. Marshall 53-10 .841
9. Nebraska 63-12 .840

Where's LSU? Tennessee? Georgia? USC? Notre Dame? Penn State? I thought they were considered to be "hostile" places to play.

Each of the listed teams averages about 1 home loss per season with a range of .7 to 1.2 per season. I haven't gone back to look up everybody's home record for the "hostile" places, but over the period in question, Virginia Tech averages 1.1 home loss per season in Lane Stadium, giving them at home record of 56-11 over the period - an 83.6% winning percentage.

wesaxman34
06-19-2008, 10:42 AM
Interested in USC's winning %...I'll have to look it up later.

WestPlano006
06-19-2008, 11:04 AM
Interested in USC's winning %...I'll have to look it up later.

ask stanford

cajun
06-19-2008, 11:57 AM
You didn't get the memo?....

LSU and Tiger Stadium are one big myth...Everybody knows that-it's probably one of the more gentle venues for college football...:eek:

Seriously, LSU a pretty tough place to play...It's not impossible for someone to come in and beat the Tigers though...It happens...

LSU got a pretty fair record at home though in Tiger history especially at night...LSU is 203-59-3 in Tiger Stadium since 1960 at night...

Even when we sucked we were a tough beat for alot of teams in Baton Rouge...All you gotta do is go to one LSU game(make it a night game) and you will see what I'm talking about...

farmerfan
06-19-2008, 12:07 PM
You didn't get the memo?....

LSU and Tiger Stadium are one big myth...Everybody knows that-it's probably one of the more gentle venues for college football...:eek:

Seriously, LSU a pretty tough place to play...It's not impossible for someone to come in and beat the Tigers though...It happens...

LSU got a pretty fair record at home though in Tiger history especially at night...LSU is 203-59-3 in Tiger Stadium since 1960 at night...

Even when we sucked we were a tough beat for alot of teams in Baton Rouge...All you gotta do is go to one LSU game(make it a night game) and you will see what I'm talking about...

I had an absolute blast at Tiger Stadium last fall. The buddy I went with swears he kept me out of jail the night before at some bar in Baton Rouge, my ode to him was not a pleasant one and it will not be discussed here.
THat said, walking around and tailgating with Auburn fans we did not encounter anything out of the ordinary as far as hostile LSU fans are concerned. It was a great environment and loud.
As far as UGA and Sanford Stadium is concerned, it is a fun experience on game day and full of scenery but it is far from a hostile place to play, the place is rather quiet for a stadium of its size.
Auburn, Gainesville and Knoxville are different stories.

WestPlano006
06-19-2008, 12:29 PM
You didn't get the memo?....

LSU and Tiger Stadium are one big myth...Everybody knows that-it's probably one of the more gentle venues for college football...:eek:

Seriously, LSU a pretty tough place to play...It's not impossible for someone to come in and beat the Tigers though...It happens...

LSU got a pretty fair record at home though in Tiger history especially at night...LSU is 203-59-3 in Tiger Stadium since 1960 at night...

Even when we sucked we were a tough beat for alot of teams in Baton Rouge...All you gotta do is go to one LSU game(make it a night game) and you will see what I'm talking about...

Your home record is probably not far from the top 10, it has to be at least above .700

cajun
06-19-2008, 12:31 PM
As far as UGA and Sanford Stadium is concerned, it is a fun experience on game day and full of scenery but it is far from a hostile place to play, the place is rather quiet for a stadium of its size.
Auburn, Gainesville and Knoxville are different stories.

I've been to Ole Miss a time or two and the pissers get loud also for a stadium that size...

I think the SEC is pretty much past the noise/loud thing when they travel...Most all have huge stadiums-still tough...

You take VT coming to Baton Rouge last year...No disrespect to VT, but they weren't ready for that kind of crowd/environment at night and it showed...

Same when Boise St came to Athens a couple years ago and you all smacked them 48-13...Boise never been in that environment before....

AHSeagles
06-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Call me a homer, but as far as a large crowd that's always loud, A&M is one of the tougher places to play IMO. I know we haven't had the best success recently but if you've ever been to an Aggie football game then you know what I'm talking about. No one sits down the entire game, there's constant yelling and chants going on, and there's nothing like 85,000 people all yelling, "Beat the hell outa tu!"

cajun
06-19-2008, 12:45 PM
Call me a homer, but as far as a large crowd that's always loud, A&M is one of the tougher places to play IMO. I know we haven't had the best success recently but if you've ever been to an Aggie football game then you know what I'm talking about. No one sits down the entire game, there's constant yelling and chants going on, and there's nothing like 85,000 people all yelling, "Beat the hell outa tu!"

In just about every "tough place to play" article/poll I've seen through the years A&M ranked very high...So, you are not a homer..I've never been to an A&M game though....

farmerfan
06-19-2008, 12:53 PM
I've been to Ole Miss a time or two and the pissers get loud also for a stadium that size...

I think the SEC is pretty much past the noise/loud thing when they travel...Most all have huge stadiums-still tough...

You take VT coming to Baton Rouge last year...No disrespect to VT, but they weren't ready for that kind of crowd/environment at night and it showed...

Same when Boise St came to Athens a couple years ago and you all smacked them 48-13...Boise never been in that environment before....

I was there for that Boise game. 5 interceptions in the first half, DJ Schockley making his starting debut, all in all a great afternoon between the Hedges.

AHSeagles
06-19-2008, 01:03 PM
In just about every "tough place to play" article/poll I've seen through the years A&M ranked very high...So, you are not a homer..I've never been to an A&M game though....

You should make your way to College Station some time. Its quite an experience.

WestPlano006
06-19-2008, 03:04 PM
In just about every "tough place to play" article/poll I've seen through the years A&M ranked very high...So, you are not a homer..I've never been to an A&M game though....

I was there for the OU game in 2006, it was the loudest I've ever heard a stadium on our 4th and short at the end of the game. It got pretty quiet when we made it, though. :D

DrEdward
06-19-2008, 03:50 PM
I've been to Ole Miss a time or two and the pissers get loud also for a stadium that size...

I think the SEC is pretty much past the noise/loud thing when they travel...Most all have huge stadiums-still tough...

You take VT coming to Baton Rouge last year...No disrespect to VT, but they weren't ready for that kind of crowd/environment at night and it showed...

Same when Boise St came to Athens a couple years ago and you all smacked them 48-13...Boise never been in that environment before....


VT never showed up at LSU last year. It was a myth; never happened. It was all mass hypnosis. :rolleyes: Actually, I am not sure it was the crowd effect so much as simply the offensive line was really bad at that point of the season for my Hokies, missing two or three starters with others having to change positions to fill in the gaps and LSU took full advantage of that. Not trying to minimize the effect of the crowd noise at Tiger Stadium at all, but VT also plays in a loud environment and it is not a new experience to them. So while the noise was a factor, I do not think it was the dominating factor. In any event, that game never took place. :o

cajun
06-19-2008, 04:10 PM
USC Loss(Stanford) is announced at LSU vs Florida...Even the band got into it...:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4OpVFtoqRA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1iUV-yIIY&feature=related

cajun
06-19-2008, 04:13 PM
VT never showed up at LSU last year. It was a myth; never happened. It was all mass hypnosis. :rolleyes: Actually, I am not sure it was the crowd effect so much as simply the offensive line was really bad at that point of the season for my Hokies, missing two or three starters with others having to change positions to fill in the gaps and LSU took full advantage of that. Not trying to minimize the effect of the crowd noise at Tiger Stadium at all, but VT also plays in a loud environment and it is not a new experience to them. So while the noise was a factor, I do not think it was the dominating factor. In any event, that game never took place. :o

I dunno...:)

You are probably right though...

jtk1519
06-19-2008, 04:56 PM
Not since the Randy Moss days.

You obviously slept through the Byron Leftwich days when Marshall was as good as Boise State is now. During the 8 seasons from '91-'99, Marshall won at least 10 games every year. From '91-'02 (12 seasons), Marshall went 138-29. Marshall's inclusion on this list should come as no surprise.

farmerfan
06-19-2008, 05:10 PM
I was there for the OU game in 2006, it was the loudest I've ever heard a stadium on our 4th and short at the end of the game. It got pretty quiet when we made it, though. :D

Three of the loudest places I've ever been in involved A&M/OU games.
The loudest of those game in 2000 when the Ags almost upset number 1 ranked OU. The place went nuts after Toombs amazing TD run. It quieted real quick after Torrance Marshall intercepted a Mark Ferris pass and returned it for what became the game winning TD

I was also there for the game in 2002, I turned 21 that day, my best friend went to A&M for both undergrad and post-grad so I went to quite few games with him. It was an awesome environment, when Reggie hit Greg Porter on that long TD just before halftime, once again the place went crazy.

I was also there in 2006 for the OU game. Another incredible game and great environment.

The loudest I have ever heard a stadium though came last year when my buddy who went to Auburn and I drove to Baton Rouge for the Auburn game.
When LSU scored with 1 second left to win, I have never in my life been in a place that was so loud. It was an awesome game and a great environement both before, during and after the game.

Thats one thing about Sanford Stadium I dont like, it doesnt get too loud or the actual game experience is nothing to special, there are limited number of seats for the students and too many pompous clowns driving in from Buckhead in their BMW's take away what could be an incredible environment.

rancher52
06-19-2008, 06:03 PM
Three of the loudest places I've ever been in involved A&M/OU games.
The loudest of those game in 2000 when the Ags almost upset number 1 ranked OU. The place went nuts after Toombs amazing TD run. It quieted real quick after Torrance Marshall intercepted a Mark Ferris pass and returned it for what became the game winning TD

I was also there for the game in 2002, I turned 21 that day, my best friend went to A&M for both undergrad and post-grad so I went to quite few games with him. It was an awesome environment, when Reggie hit Greg Porter on that long TD just before halftime, once again the place went crazy.

I was also there in 2006 for the OU game. Another incredible game and great environment.

The loudest I have ever heard a stadium though came last year when my buddy who went to Auburn and I drove to Baton Rouge for the Auburn game.
When LSU scored with 1 second left to win, I have never in my life been in a place that was so loud. It was an awesome game and a great environement both before, during and after the game.

Thats one thing about Sanford Stadium I dont like, it doesnt get too loud or the actual game experience is nothing to special, there are limited number of seats for the students and too many pompous clowns driving in from Buckhead in their BMW's take away what could be an incredible environment.

Wasn't the 2002 game where they attempted to break the noise record (held at Old Mile High at time)? I don't think they broke the record, as I recall -- maybe because the weather was cloudy and humid which possibly muffled some of the sound. I was there too and it was the loudest game I ever attended (that includes games I attended at Florida - before all of the expansion, Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee to mention a few).

ESPN Game Day was there

farmerfan
06-19-2008, 06:07 PM
Wasn't the 2002 game where they attempted to break the noise record (held at Old Mile High at time)? I don't think they broke the record, as I recall -- maybe because the weather was cloudy and humid which possibly muffled some of the sound. I was there too and it was the loudest game I ever attended (that includes games I attended at Florida - before all of the expansion, Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee to mention a few).

ESPN Game Day was there

It was actually the 2000 game. We were in the third deck since my buddy was a fish at the time. He was able to get me a sports pass and guest sticker on a student ticket. I feel so lucky to this day still, it was on the weekend of my 20th birthday. We got there early for gameday and they were talking about going for the guinesis book of world record that day.
There were moments where the 02 game got louder than the 2000 game. Both experiences were incredible.
Sadly enough, out of the SEC stadiums I have been to, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, Columbia, Auburn, LSU and Arkansas. Sanford might be the quiestest of those. South Carolina was loud for the first quarter of the UF game but Mr Teebow quieted them down real quick. I would love to be in Athens for the Tennessee or Alabama game this year to see what its like for thsoe two teams coming to town.

DrEdward
06-19-2008, 10:54 PM
As long as we are sort of the SEC games angle, one of the noisiest experiinces was to be found in the Auburn-Alabama games when they played in Legion Field in Birmingham. The fans would all get to stomping their feet on that steel structure and you could feel the ground shake, as well as the rather impressive roar of the place to begin with.

farmerfan
06-20-2008, 12:13 AM
As long as we are sort of the SEC games angle, one of the noisiest experiinces was to be found in the Auburn-Alabama games when they played in Legion Field in Birmingham. The fans would all get to stomping their feet on that steel structure and you could feel the ground shake, as well as the rather impressive roar of the place to begin with.

College football just isnt right without the Iron Bowl being played at Legion Field. Of course with the success Awbarn has had in Tuscaloosa since the games have gone home and home, me thinks that Bama might actually consider moving the game back to birmingham.

jtk1519
06-20-2008, 01:48 AM
College football just isnt right without the Iron Bowl being played at Legion Field.

This.

slorch
06-20-2008, 09:09 AM
Call me a homer, but as far as a large crowd that's always loud, A&M is one of the tougher places to play IMO. I know we haven't had the best success recently but if you've ever been to an Aggie football game then you know what I'm talking about. No one sits down the entire game, there's constant yelling and chants going on, and there's nothing like 85,000 people all yelling, "Beat the hell outa tu!"

no matter who they're playing.

Kyle Field wasn't intimidating to me, in my first visit there, other than the fact that I couldn't stop laughing, to the point that my wife was worried that I was going to end up in a fight. i swear that's one of the strangest places I've ever been in, but not intimidating.

hand signals eliminate the noise, and from there it's just a matter of wanting to not be beaten by a bunch of freaks.

pied
06-20-2008, 09:19 AM
College football just isnt right without the Iron Bowl being played at Legion Field. Of course with the success Awbarn has had in Tuscaloosa since the games have gone home and home, me thinks that Bama might actually consider moving the game back to birmingham.

I agree, some things shouldn't change. Au/Al, Ga/Fl, TX/ou, adn Army/Navy should always be played at a neutral site.

Texas is not that intimidating, although I have seen Memorial rocking, probably the most at the Texa-Houston game in '90. There are some good Youtubes of that around and I'll see if I can dig some up.

The Texas-ou game is one of the most special games around. The way the game looks and the sound of the game with both fans on opposite sides of the 50 is unique and very cool. I can't recommend enough for college fans to go to a game before it is moved.

I have been to ou/a$m, and tOSU most notably. All were cool, but the more I think about it most college atmosphere's are pretty same whil being different. They all have stadium yells, "boomer! sooner!", "OH-IO", "We are-Penn State", a$m has a million of them. All have good songs that the crowd sings to, and many fans want to think they hold the market on them.

Most fans not familiar with what's being said or sung, ususally can't figure it out. All have their cool parts, the dotting of the i. the swaying back and forth, and the sooner schooner, the running of the Texas flag. I enjoy them all, but think most atmospheres are mor alike than most of us want to admit.

pied
06-20-2008, 09:24 AM
no matter who they're playing.

Kyle Field wasn't intimidating to me, in my first visit there, other than the fact that I couldn't stop laughing, to the point that my wife was worried that I was going to end up in a fight. i swear that's one of the strangest places I've ever been in, but not intimidating.

hand signals eliminate the noise, and from there it's just a matter of wanting to not be beaten by a bunch of freaks.


The first time I went to Kyle was for a yell practice against some Ulala I think. It seemed like a cool deal, but it dawned on me that it was like a party extension for most of the kids. The big deal seemd to be for the students to try and race across the field while the corps guys tried to track them down. The crowd loved it.

I went to the '93 game(Dallas played Miami the same day in the ice). It was cold and I expected to be blown away. The swaying was pretty cool, but a I was a little let down from my high expectations.

That being said, I would rate a baseball game at Olsen > than a football game at Kyle.

farmerfan
06-20-2008, 09:29 AM
I agree, some things shouldn't change. Au/Al, Ga/Fl, TX/ou, adn Army/Navy should always be played at a neutral site.

Texas is not that intimidating, although I have seen Memorial rocking, probably the most at the Texa-Houston game in '90. There are some good Youtubes of that around and I'll see if I can dig some up.

The Texas-ou game is one of the most special games around. The way the game looks and the sound of the game with both fans on opposite sides of the 50 is unique and very cool. I can't recommend enough for college fans to go to a game before it is moved.

I have been to ou/a$m, and tOSU most notably. All were cool, but the more I think about it most college atmosphere's are pretty same whil being different. They all have stadium yells, "boomer! sooner!", "OH-IO", "We are-Penn State", a$m has a million of them. All have good songs that the crowd sings to, and many fans want to think they hold the market on them.

Most fans not familiar with what's being said or sung, ususally can't figure it out. All have their cool parts, the dotting of the i. the swaying back and forth, and the sooner schooner, the running of the Texas flag. I enjoy them all, but think most atmospheres are mor alike than most of us want to admit.

While GA/FL is special in Jacksonville, I just dont think it has the same passion and tradition that Texas/OU does in Dallas. As you said, the fans being split at the 50 is pretty dang cool as is the distance from both schools to Dallas. Jacksonville is a heck of a lot closer to Gainesville,Fl than it is to Athens,Ga. Still pretty much half and half when you consider the crowd, I just dont think the overall games played have had as much meaning as the ones between Texas and OU. I'll let ya know this year how it is to go to the Cocktail party.
You are also right about most of the colleges being pretty cool with their sayings and songs. Awbarn and their rammer jammer yeller hammer, go to hell alabamer chant is pretty cool, as is the 1000000 times you hear Rocky Top at a Tennessee game.

farmerfan
06-20-2008, 09:31 AM
The first time I went to Kyle was for a yell practice against some Ulala I think. It seemed like a cool deal, but it dawned on me that it was like a party extension for most of the kids. The big deal seemd to be for the students to try and race across the field while the corps guys tried to track them down. The crowd loved it.

I went to the '93 game(Dallas played Miami the same day in the ice). It was cold and I expected to be blown away. The swaying was pretty cool, but a I was a little let down from my high expectations.

That being said, I would rate a baseball game at Olsen > than a football game at Kyle.

Games at Olsen are pretty cool as are games at the Disch. I remember going to a few Texas baseball games at the Disch back in the days of Brooks Keischnick (sp) and it was pretty dang fun. I was roughly 10 years old but I still remember it.
Foley Field in Athens, Ga while very nice was not that great of a baseball atmosphere in the games I went to last year. I've always wanted to attend a baseball game at Miss St. They pack them in and are very passioante about their baseball in Starkville.

pied
06-20-2008, 09:34 AM
Games at Olsen are pretty cool as are games at the Disch. I remember going to a few Texas baseball games at the Disch back in the days of Brooks Keischnick (sp) and it was pretty dang fun. I was roughly 10 years old but I still remember it.
Foley Field in Athens, Ga while very nice was not that great of a baseball atmosphere in the games I went to last year. I've always wanted to attend a baseball game at Miss St. They pack them in and are very passioante about their baseball in Starkville.

That was my time. Don't get me wrong, I love games at the Disch. Especially after getting to know a lot of the Wild Buch, but that's a different story(yes I drove the caddy), but Olsen is a cool experience, although very odd.

Different places have different things to offer. If you get wrapped up on "which one's the best" or "ours rules" you'll miss some pretty cool experiences in my opinion.

pied
06-20-2008, 10:59 AM
I agree, some things shouldn't change. Au/Al, Ga/Fl, TX/ou, adn Army/Navy should always be played at a neutral site.

Texas is not that intimidating, although I have seen Memorial rocking, probably the most at the Texas-Houston game in '90. There are some good Youtubes of that around and I'll see if I can dig some up.
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Here's one. You can here UH's air raid siren, one of our coaches Oscar Giles making some big hits, Butch Hadnot making some crazy runs, and people waving cotton.

The crowd noise was awesome that night.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lhZZX6eVTg&feature=related