Texas is well represented in the MaxPreps National Preseason Poll

[ProPho]

Congrats to Euless Trinity, Plano and SLC.

http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/Content/Article.mxp/ArticleID-9f3ef170-4601-46fa-ae01-9d1464450358

[SLC93]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.

[TrojanHorse03]

Hopefully we can do better with a high ranking and a national spotlight than we did last year vs. Permian. IMO teams shouldn't be ranked until after they've played a few games, let this year's team bust a grape before they bring out the anointing oil. Just my opinion.

[Fleeman93]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.


I agree SLC has no business being on that list!


:D

[maxtor]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.

I would tend to agree but then again the other top 100 teams in the country lost 1/2 of their team also and have some questions as to how they are going to respond. The Dragons have been in this spot several times during their recent run.
That top 25 will have teams dropping like flies once the season starts and they show that some were mediocre teams to begin with that additionally lost a ton to graduation.
Most of the FINAL top 25 arent even on the radar yet. You have to put top name teams on the preseason list because SOMEBODY has to be on there.:)

[dada]

These polls are becoming jokes. Basicly this is a "Teams we heard of" poll. Most of these teams have or are about to participate in a high profile out of state match up.:rolleyes:

[cajun]

Trinity #1...

Looks like John Curtis gonna be "Rocky" in this match up going up against Apollo Creed...John Curtis still pretty young-word is they will be starting a 10th grader at QB...

Bastrop, La #7.... Bastrop will be pretty good once again-they got some monsters over there....I believe though West Monroe this year has more talent...They will be in the poll before it's over with...

Nice to see De La Salle at #2....They could return 3 cheerleaders and make the preseason top 5....Same with St. Xavier (Ohio)....:mad:

[GBMonster76]

Like I was saying in my other posts about Pahokee and Madison County...

Pahokee has about 600 kids in their high school, and Madison County has about 800 kids in their high school, and they're both ranked in the MaxPreps preseason poll.

Polls being good or bad, that is staggering.

[SLC93]

I agree SLC has no business being on that list!


:D

Shouldn't you be arguing the merits of 07 Katy vs 07 Trinity?:eek::D

[SLC93]

These polls are becoming jokes. Basicly this is a "Teams we heard of" poll. Most of these teams have or are about to participate in a high profile out of state match up.:rolleyes:

Truth

[cajun]

Like I was saying in my other posts about Pahokee...

They have 600 kids in their high school, and they are ranked #4 in the preseason MaxPreps poll.

Polls being good or bad, that is staggering.

Pahokee got NO business at #4...Bastrop or West Monroe crush em...I'm sure Pahokee got alot of quality skill players as normal, but they would get dominated on the LOS...

[SLC93]

Trinity #1...

Looks like John Curtis gonna be "Rocky" in this match up going up against Apollo Creed...John Curtis still pretty young-word is they will be starting a 10th grader at QB...

Bastrop, La #7.... Bastrop will be pretty good once again-they got some monsters over there....I believe though West Monroe this year has more talent...They will be in the poll before it's over with...

Nice to see De La Salle at #2....They could return 3 cheerleaders and make the preseason top 5....Same with St. Xavier (Ohio)....:mad:

You just capture that fact and framed it like no one else has. Perfection!:D

[GBMonster76]

I agree SLC has no business being on that list!


:D


Why do you think SLC shouldn't be on the list? I would think that with all SLC has done recently, that they should be on the list for respect alone. I understand that this year might be a 3 to 4 loss year, but next year is national championship talk time again....is this true?

www.americanfootballmonthly.com

[DrEdward]

I agree SLC has no business being on that list!


:D

I think most of us agree that Carroll has a great deal to prove this year that they are deserving of any ranking in the state or the national polls. But it is nice to be recognized for past success, which is fundamentally what this poll is about.

[da wiz]

Hopefully we can do better with a high ranking and a national spotlight than we did last year vs. Permian. IMO teams shouldn't be ranked until after they played a few games, let this year's team bust a grape before they bring out the anointing oil. Just my opinion.
i agree with your points.........
but its exciteing to think about the potential of this year's team.......
and to be considered #1 in any poll, is a great compliment..

[cajun]

You just capture that fact and framed it like no one else has. Perfection!:D

Probably being alittle hard on De La Salle, but truth is they don't miss many polls...:D

[SLC93]

Probably being alittle hard on De La Salle, but truth is they don't miss many polls...:D

Had to pounce on it, though. Too well said. I'm a huge fan of the DLS program and all coach Lad has accomplished.

[trojanbacker]

Yet another example of why pre-season polls are pointless other than fodder for discussion boards.

[TrojanHorse03]

Trinity #1...

Looks like John Curtis gonna be "Rocky" in this match up going up against Apollo Creed...

John Curtis may be the underdog in this matchup but they can't be Rocky. Rocky is the patron saint of Trinity Trojan Football :cool: , thank you very much. Besides a certain 22-time state champion program would be a better fit for the role of Apollo Creed.

[SMC020]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!

[dragonpants]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.

I agree, we will be better than people think and I think Plano and #10 nationally is too high.

[DrEdward]

Yet another example of why pre-season polls are pointless other than fodder for discussion boards.

But at least that gives them a purpose and something for us to talk about other than oil, obama and the latest religion variant. Polls of the preseason variant are good, but meaningless.

[SLC93]

John Curtis may be the underdog in this matchup but they can't be Rocky. Rocky is the patron saint of Trinity Trojan Football :cool: , thank you very much. Besides a certain 22-time state champion program would be a better fit for the role of Apollo Creed.

Something about a nail & hitting it on the head............:D

[TrojanHorse03]

Polls of the preseason variant are good, but meaningless.

From the Trinity perspective they're just meaningless. Always have and always will. All we care about is being ranked higher on the scoreboard so to speak.

[chhspantherfan]

But at least that gives them a purpose and something for us to talk about. Oil, obama and the latest religion variant are good, but meaningless.

FIFY:D

[Fleeman93]

Shouldn't you be arguing the merits of 07 Katy vs 07 Trinity?:eek::D


No one can make an argument for Trinity so they gave up trying.

[The Great Evaluator]

It's more about what the teams have this year rather than last. Besides, Trinity has 3 very tough Non-District opponents and has never finished a season undefeated.

[Fleeman93]

Why do you think SLC shouldn't be on the list? I would think that with all SLC has done recently, that they should be on the list for respect alone. I understand that this year might be a 3 to 4 loss year, but next year is national championship talk time again....is this true?

www.americanfootballmonthly.com


No reason to put the 08 SLC team on the list simply based on the past merits of previous teams.

[TrojanHorse03]

Besides, Trinity has 3 very tough Non-District opponents and has never finished a season undefeated.

Agreed.

[Fleeman93]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!


Maybe Trinity returns more from a better team?

[chhspantherfan]

No reason to put the 08 SLC team on the list simply based on the past merits of previous teams.

There is good reason to rank them based on the program.

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/thsf/e/eulesstrinity.gif

(you might have to click on the text to expand it.)

this is from WOS -- 100 youngest 5A schools thread.

Incredible success breeds high expectation.

[TrojanHorse03]

No one can make an argument for Trinity so they gave up trying.

LOL Fleeman. For all the talk dedicated to 2007 Katy vs. 2007 Trinity I don't think one person changed their opinion since December one way or the other. The closest thing to that is you did seem to gain the support of drunk Farmer, so congratulations on that :notworthy. More importantly the Trinity side realized that nothing said has changed the fact that Katy has NEVER beaten Trinity and is 1-3 vs. the Metroplex in such state title matchups, facts that can't be argued :D.

[cajun]

John Curtis may be the underdog in this matchup but they can't be Rocky. Rocky is the patron saint of Trinity Trojan Football :cool: , thank you very much. Besides a certain 22-time state champion program would be a better fit for the role of Apollo Creed.

Those 22 state titles don't mean too much in this match up...Trinity in a different class...

Take it from a Rummel Boy...;)

Curtis will make you all play 4 quaters though...

[Fleeman93]

LOL Fleeman. For all the talk dedicated to 2007 Katy vs. 2007 Trinity I don't think one person changed their opinion since December one way or the other. The closest thing to that is you did seem to gain the support of drunk Farmer, so congratulations on that :notworthy. More importantly the Trinity side realized that nothing said has changed the fact that Katy has NEVER beaten Trinity and is 1-3 vs. the Metroplex in such state title mactups, facts that can't be argued :D.


OK.

[Tantal]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!BEcause Trinity's bringing back half the starters from a State Title team. No disrespect to Judson though. I never count Judson out until somebody actually beats them in the playoffs.

[dada]

LOL Fleeman. For all the talk dedicated to 2007 Katy vs. 2007 Trinity I don't think one person changed their opinion since December one way or the other. The closest thing to that is you did seem to gain the support of drunk Farmer, so congratulations on that :notworthy. More importantly the Trinity side realized that nothing said has changed the fact that Katy has NEVER beaten Trinity and is 1-3 vs. the Metroplex in such state title macthups, facts that can't be argued :D.

:confused: have they every PLAYED Trinity? And Trinity has never played a team from the Houston area, so the more this argument goes on...the more irrelevant it is.

[SLC93]

Maybe Trinity returns more from a better team?

Flee? Is that you?

[DragonFan0316]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.

Agree. We will have to earn every yard.

[stinger]

No one can make an argument for Trinity so they gave up trying.

OOps! That made me pass gas PFFFT! AHHH:D:D:eek:

[DragonFan0316]

Those 22 state titles don't mean too much in this match up...Trinity in a different class...

Take it from a Rummel Boy...;)

Curtis will make you all play 4 quaters though...

Cajun is right. Trinity will beat a team so physically, their ancesters will feel it.:notworthy

[Fleeman93]

Flee? Is that you?

Yes, practical and reasonable Flee.

[ftballin11]

Why do you think SLC shouldn't be on the list? I would think that with all SLC has done recently, that they should be on the list for respect alone. I understand that this year might be a 3 to 4 loss year, but next year is national championship talk time again....is this true?

www.americanfootballmonthly.com


Well coach Dodge is gone. That is the question mark. Some people believe it was no fluke that SLC was not up to their same standards Because of the coaching change. So Wasson has to prove he can get the job done to silence the doubters. When Coaches are more important to programs like SLC Katy and Trinity. That is why those three are successful every year regardless of talent. That is what is great about Texas football. If you give the kind of talent to a team like Katy SLC or Trinity that MNW had last year. They would be monsters.

[ftballin11]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!

Of course, they have to make it , who do they play to get there. The only other decent team in San antonio is SV.

[drgnbkr]

No reason to put the 08 SLC team on the list simply based on the past merits of previous teams.

Past performance has been continued by quality Carroll football, for at least 20 years....It may come to a screeching halt for Carroll this year, and Katy may drop football altogether...but I doubt it...it's a freaking poll flee! C'mon!

[Fleeman93]

Past performance has been continued by quality Carroll football, for at least 20 years....It may come to a screeching halt for Carroll this year, and Katy may drop football altogether...but I doubt it...it's a freaking poll flee! C'mon!


Look, some people here were questioning if SLC would make the top 10 in Texas so how do you jump from that to the top 25 in the country. It is a bit of a stretch for me. Besides I think the KT's know a little more about how to rank teams than this national poll writer does and the KT's have two other teams in front of SLC on the state level. Who knows, maybe Carroll is a top 25 national team but I just don't see it.

[drgnbkr]

Look, some people here were questioning if SLC would make the top 10 in Texas so how do you jump from that to the top 25 in the country. It is a bit of a stretch for me. Besides I think the KT's know a little more about how to rank teams than this national poll writer does and the KT's have two other teams in front of SLC on the state level. Who knows, maybe Carroll is a top 25 national team but I just don't see it.

It is just for discussion...It's a poll, has no bearing on actual games, but if you don't think the run that Carroll has been on influences state and national polls, your nuts! When you win like Carroll has, people notice, it's that simple. When they quit winning at such an astronomical rate, you will have a point.

[Fleeman93]

It is just for discussion...It's a poll, has no bearing on actual games, but if you don't think the run that Carroll has been on influences state and national polls, your nuts! When you win like Carroll has, people notice, it's that simple. When they quit winning at such an astronomical rate, you will have a point.


All national polls are crap. Those people don't know their *** from hole in the ground.

[ftballin11]

It is just for discussion...It's a poll, has no bearing on actual games, but if you don't think the run that Carroll has been on influences state and national polls, your nuts! When you win like Carroll has, people notice, it's that simple. When they quit winning at such an astronomical rate, you will have a point.


Katy has been the most dominent team for the last 10 year and has shown no sign of slowing down why arent they in there strictly on reputation.

The most important part to there run was Dodge. If he was there id have no prob. But when you lose a great coach its hard to maintain that status. As when Trinity loses Lineweaver they will fall a little and Same thing with katy and Joseph.

Wasson might be great, but he hasnt proved it yet.

[SMC020]

BEcause Trinity's bringing back half the starters from a State Title team. No disrespect to Judson though. I never count Judson out until somebody actually beats them in the playoffs.

Judson is also bringing back half the starters.

[Tantal]

Judson is also bringing back half the starters.If that's the case, see you in January:D

[drgnbkr]

All national polls are crap. Those people don't know their *** from hole in the ground.

100% agree...just don't be offended when they know about Carroll's record...

[Fleeman93]

Judson is also bringing back half the starters.


So how was Judson so bad during the season and so good in the playoffs?

[twcpfan1]

wtf is college park? :D

we have the same record as all the teams that made it:

0-0

[CKE]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!

Because Judson is a team that will lose some regular season games. Any team that losses to a 2nd year Varsity team like Wagner should not be in a national spotlight. Trinity has a very good chance at going undefeted.Sv could have cried like you about not being number 2 in the nation losing by 3 points in the last 6 seconds but we decided to respond with a little more class than that. ;)

[DrEdward]

FIFY:D

Nice spin and editing work.:D

[SMC020]

Of course, they have to make it , who do they play to get there. The only other decent team in San antonio is SV.

I'm talking about getting to State not out of SA. Unless you think the likes of teams like Northshore are not worth mentioning.

[SMC020]

So how was Judson so bad during the season and so good in the playoffs?

We knocked them upside their heads and made them act right :D Actually the game with Wagner we had a couple key players out and the Wagner coaches took advantage of this............very smart coaches :)

[SMC020]

Because Judson is a team that will lose some regular season games. Any team that losses to a 2nd year Varsity team like Wagner should not be in a national spotlight. Trinity has a very good chance at going undefeted.Sv could have cried like you about not being number 2 in the nation losing by 3 points in the last 6 seconds but we decided to respond with a little more class than that. ;)

Whatever CKE :notworthy

[mojotrain]

I don't see how you could fit 8 teams in between ET and Plano.

[mojotrain]

But at least that gives them a purpose and something for us to talk about other than oil, obama and the latest religion variant. Polls of the preseason variant are good, but meaningless.

That is worth something.

[chhspantherfan]

I hope that is worth something, or I will have to change

FIFY:D

[The Great Evaluator]

Judson is also bringing back half the starters.
That's the point, Trinity's starters are much more talented. 4 D-1 scholarships and counting:notworthy

Not taking anything away from Judson but Trinity's just more talented.

[Fleeman93]

We knocked them upside their heads and made them act right :D Actually the game with Wagner we had a couple key players out and the Wagner coaches took advantage of this............very smart coaches :)


Tivy? SV? Reagan?

[toonman]

I believe we have no business being included in a preseason, national rankings list. This year's squad will be one that will work it's way to that sort of recognition. The talent is there but too many questions have to be answered, too many pieces have to gel. Trinity & Plano are deserving of their status going into the season. We'll have to earn it, in my opinion.

I agree SLC should not be on this list. But I guess it is compiled by sports writers, who probably know a whole lot more than I do.

One point however, is that this season will show if SLC does have 'pipeline' of players who are ready to step up into the 'big-time'. We are led to believe that there is one system throughout all grades in the Carroll ISD; so this season, more than any other without any returning skill players, will prove if SLC is worthy of always being included in the rankings or whether we have just witnessed a unique piece of 5A history, over the last 5 years which is unlikely to be repeated.

[trojanbacker]

I don't think "returning half the starters" is much of a claim; it's the quality of the starters that you return. Are they a bunch of spares that are returning or were they significant contributors, that's the real issue. Trinity is blessed this year with quality returning starters plus a bunch of kids who were "alternate starters" and rotated in and out on both sides of the ball. Of course, that's no guarantee of future success. I think one of the key challenges for Trinity this year will be to see how they handle the pressure of high expectations. They're not used to being in this bright of a spotlight. We'll see in ten weeks or so.

[jbusch]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!


Remember #1 - Last year was a rebuilding year for ET, they weren't that good. :D

Remember # 2 - When ET beat cj in 2005 by 14 points cj cried like jr high girls that ET was a bully and running up the score, when ET won by 3 in 2007 cj in is court wanting visitation rights for the trophy.

Geez make up your minds:p Let ET know what score they can beat you by that won't send you off of the deep end. ET aims to please

[farmerfan]

I agree, we will be better than people think and I think Plano and #10 nationally is too high.

Good god you think everybody is ranked too high dont you?
FM Marcus severly overrated.
Plano ranked too high nationally

Still waiting on how Marcus is Overrated and add to it, why is Plano ranked to high?

[farmerfan]

LOL Fleeman. For all the talk dedicated to 2007 Katy vs. 2007 Trinity I don't think one person changed their opinion since December one way or the other. The closest thing to that is you did seem to gain the support of drunk Farmer, so congratulations on that :notworthy. More importantly the Trinity side realized that nothing said has changed the fact that Katy has NEVER beaten Trinity and is 1-3 vs. the Metroplex in such state title matchups, facts that can't be argued :D.

You didn't catch the sarcasm in there?
It was my new drunk way of avoding conflicts and overusage of naughty words to save myself from a banning.
Please tell me you didn't take it serious?

[farmerfan]

No one can make an argument for Trinity so they gave up trying.

What's the argument for Katy again that says they were clearly the better team?
I'm afraid I and the rest of the state missed that one.

[farmerfan]

Past performance has been continued by quality Carroll football, for at least 20 years....It may come to a screeching halt for Carroll this year, and Katy may drop football altogether...but I doubt it...it's a freaking poll flee! C'mon!

Unless said poll has Allen ranked higher right? ;)
The pomp and circumstance of polls. Gotta love em :D

[farmerfan]

All national polls are crap. Those people don't know their *** from hole in the ground.

Surely you don't mean that now?
Polls are the be all end all when debating between two subjects that have no history to fall back on to which was or is better.

[Fleeman93]

Surely you don't mean that now?
Polls are the be all end all when debating between two subjects that have no history to fall back on to which was or is better.


Downplay it however you want but the national poll was just one of 8. As a matter of fact let's just toss it out and go with the other 7 polls.

[TrojanHorse03]

You didn't catch the sarcasm in there?
It was my new drunk way of avoding conflicts and overusage of naughty words to save myself from a banning.
Please tell me you didn't take it serious?

LOL I was being in sarcastic with the drunk farmer comment.

[TrojanHorse03]

All national polls are crap. Those people don't know their *** from hole in the ground.

No that doesn't sound like Flee, can't be Flee.

Who cares about rankings? Since we have a playoff here in Texas, rankings really don't mean much other than to the fans and media.

[Fleeman93]

No that doesn't sound like Flee, can't be Flee.


Yes, national polls are garbage and I mean ZERO!

[Dynastybegan86]

What's the argument for Katy again that says they were clearly the better team?
I'm afraid I and the rest of the state missed that one.

Hey FF,

Shut the HELL up!

Signed,
Keith Obermann:D

No need going down that road again, it's just a big cul-d-sac!

[farmerfan]

Hey FF,

Shut the HELL up!

Signed,
Keith Obermann:D

No need going down that road again, it's just a big cul-d-sac!

:Censor: You

Signed
Yours truly

:D

Also agree, no need to go down the road again. However, some seem to never be able to let it go.

Here's a hint for ya too.
Not a Trinity fan or myself that brough it up.

[Dynastybegan86]

:Censor: You

Signed
Yours truly

:D

Also agree, no need to go down the road again. However, some seem to never be able to let it go.

Here's a hint for ya too.
Not a Trinity fan or myself that brough it up. What! Really? ;)

I know, hard for me as well but it is time! See red^

[Fleeman93]

:Censor: You

Signed
Yours truly

:D

Also agree, no need to go down the road again. However, some seem to never be able to let it go.

Here's a hint for ya too.
Not a Trinity fan or myself that brough it up.

Pretty funny that it was an SLC fan that rehashed it although they had no dog in the fight, but you can sure bet that if they did have a dog in the fight a fight it would be.

[farmerfan]

Pretty funny that it was an SLC fan that rehashed it although they had no dog in the fight, but you can sure bet that if they did have a dog in the fight a fight it would be.

No joke. And you are right, my mistake. Should have said neither a Trinity or Katy fan brought it back up.
Trinity went through it with those fans back in 05 and it wasn't pretty as they basicly said the same thing you have said. No way no how Trinity could have stayed on the field or even come close to beating Southlake.

[Dynastybegan86]

No joke. And you are right, my mistake. Should have said neither a Trinity or Katy fan brought it back up.
Trinity went through it with those fans back in 05 and it wasn't pretty as they basicly said the same thing you have said. No way no how Trinity could have stayed on the field or even come close to beating Southlake or Katy.
Thanks FF, and it was 06 wasn't it? I am glad you are finally coming around.:)

[green day]

I'm going to revert to my " starter" days... a little boastful...I don't know how you can match future teams across state lines... but I can tell you the boys from Euless, as solid as they are, would find their hands full with this hungry Dragon bunch.

Nothing to lose, no more Dodges, we'd put 58K at TS and don't be surprised at the outcome!!!

Confidently,

GD

[farmerfan]

Thanks FF, and it was 06 wasn't it? I am glad you are finally coming around.:)

06 was the epic battle between Trinity and Carroll
05 was when Carroll and Trinity both won a state title.
Carroll finished undefeated at 16-0 and Trinity finished 14-1.
Trinity had to hear it all offseason whenever the mythical mathcup was brought up. It got pretty heated.:eek:;)

[TrojanHorse03]

I'm going to revert to my " starter" days... a little boastful...I don't know how you can match future teams across state lines... but I can tell you the boys from Euless, as solid as they are, would find their hands full with this hungry Dragon bunch.

Nothing to lose, no more Dodges, we'd put 58K at TS and don't be surprised at the outcome!!!

Confidently,

GD

If fate was only so kind as to provide us with an opportunity for vengeance :mad::mad::mad:....Ok, I'm calm now :D. Will have to save that errand for another day :D.

[farmerfan]

I'm going to revert to my " starter" days... a little boastful...I don't know how you can match future teams across state lines... but I can tell you the boys from Euless, as solid as they are, would find their hands full with this hungry Dragon bunch.

Nothing to lose, no more Dodges, we'd put 58K at TS and don't be surprised at the outcome!!!

Confidently,

GD

That's easy to say knowing that it is impossible for both teams to play each other.
Outcome would be differnt this time around though. Trinity too much, too strong as an all around football team than what Carroll has this year.

[SMC020]

That's the point, Trinity's starters are much more talented. 4 D-1 scholarships and counting:notworthy

Not taking anything away from Judson but Trinity's just more talented.

We now have 3 D-1 scholarships and counting :D

[SMC020]

Tivy? SV? Reagan?

It's all how you finish. None of these teams made it to state.

[wesaxman34]

I don't think "returning half the starters" is much of a claim; it's the quality of the starters that you return. Are they a bunch of spares that are returning or were they significant contributors, that's the real issue. Trinity is blessed this year with quality returning starters plus a bunch of kids who were "alternate starters" and rotated in and out on both sides of the ball. Of course, that's no guarantee of future success. I think one of the key challenges for Trinity this year will be to see how they handle the pressure of high expectations. They're not used to being in this bright of a spotlight. We'll see in ten weeks or so.


Well stated. I think the more talented team was our 05' team, and they were more or less considered the underdogs that year. We have had two years under the spotlight since that 05' championship, and the young 07' team collapsed on national TV against OP....the outcome of the game was good for us, because the rankings and expectations weren't a factor anymore...the only factor was to get back up and concentrate on winning every friday night.

BECAUSE this is a veteran team, I hope they can handle it, and I know Lineweaver will at least keep their eyes off the polls.

[The Great Evaluator]

We now have 3 D-1 scholarships and counting :D
Not to take away from Judson, they're good, Trinity's better. Who does Judson have that's verbally committed so far?

[TrojanHorse03]

Well stated. I think the more talented team was our 05' team, and they were more or less considered the underdogs that year. We have had two years under the spotlight since that 05' championship, and the young 07' team collapsed on national TV against OP....the outcome of the game was good for us, because the rankings and expectations weren't a factor anymore...the only factor was to get back up and concentrate on winning every friday night.

BECAUSE this is a veteran team, I hope they can handle it, and I know Lineweaver will at least keep their eyes off the polls.

Well it's good to know that all the Trinity fans have the right attitude, not worried about polls or ranking but just taking everything one game at a time. But I wouldn't worry about the team eating the poison cheese either http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/content/topstories/stories/122407dnspohswhitmire.2cf09d5.html . And as long as they don't, who knows....:confused: ;)

[TrojanHorse03]

And y'all know Coach Lineweaver does not dabble in the anointing oil business.

[RocketDad]

Because Judson is a team that will lose some regular season games. Any team that losses to a 2nd year Varsity team like Wagner should not be in a national spotlight. Trinity has a very good chance at going undefeted.Sv could have cried like you about not being number 2 in the nation losing by 3 points in the last 6 seconds but we decided to respond with a little more class than that. ;)

The day you show some class will be when you grow up. SV has a great program and you are the only one of their fans that show disrespect consistently. You really do them a dis-service with your posts. We only have to look at your profile picture to see your attitude. Your hate/jealousy with Judson keeps dragging me into replying. I am trying to ignore your posts but you keep dragging me in. Are you going to claim some teenager jacked your screen name again?

[rocketgrl94]

I guess the Judson Rockets are the scrubs again........that's OK because we will be at state AGAIN. How can Trinity be #1 and Judson not listed........remember 3 points!!

I dont get it either who cares they are all haters anyways;)

[SMC020]

Not to take away from Judson, they're good, Trinity's better. Who does Judson have that's verbally committed so far?

Trinity is real good...........but I have to speak up for my Rockets!! No one has verbally committed yet but three have D-1 offers!!

[The Great Evaluator]

I know Brown and McCallister must be 2 of them.

[TrojanHorse03]

Trinity is real good...........but I have to speak up for my Rockets!! No one has verbally committed yet but three have D-1 offers!!

And so are the Judson Rockets, I understand. As someone wisely put it, you don't count out Judson until they've been beat in the playoffs.

[CKE]

The day you show some class will be when you grow up. SV has a great program and you are the only one of their fans that show disrespect consistently. You really do them a dis-service with your posts. We only have to look at your profile picture to see your attitude. Your hate/jealousy with Judson keeps dragging me into replying. I am trying to ignore your posts but you keep dragging me in. Are you going to claim some teenager jacked your screen name again?

Does the Truth hurt you that much? Judson losses to a 4a team last year and then to a 2nd year varsity team and y'all claim you should be nationally ranked....I don't care if you like me or not im not here to make online friends.And it is just hilarious that you try and associate your dislike for one person telling you the tuth on a internet message board with a whole fan base.I'll do you a favor there is an ignore function on this message board take advantage of it if you really can't take criticism. I posted facts and the fatcs are a team that loses to a 4a team and and a 2nd year varisty team should not be in the national spotlight state finalist or not. Thats it and thats all

[stinger]

I dont get it either who cares they are all haters anyways;)

YAWN!!!!:eek:

[dragonsdaddy]

Look, some people here were questioning if SLC would make the top 10 in Texas so how do you jump from that to the top 25 in the country. It is a bit of a stretch for me. Besides I think the KT's know a little more about how to rank teams than this national poll writer does and the KT's have two other teams in front of SLC on the state level. Who knows, maybe Carroll is a top 25 national team but I just don't see it.the obvious answer has already been posted. these polls are stupid, made by know-nothings without the preparation usually put forth by even old dave. fishwrap is too good for them.

[Dynastybegan86]

06 was the epic battle between Trinity and Carroll
05 was when Carroll and Trinity both won a state title.
Carroll finished undefeated at 16-0 and Trinity finished 14-1.
Trinity had to hear it all offseason whenever the mythical mathcup was brought up. It got pretty heated.:eek:;)

I misread your post, I see what you mean...sounds familiar.

[ScottS]

Look, some people here were questioning if SLC would make the top 10 in Texas so how do you jump from that to the top 25 in the country. It is a bit of a stretch for me. Besides I think the KT's know a little more about how to rank teams than this national poll writer does and the KT's have two other teams in front of SLC on the state level. Who knows, maybe Carroll is a top 25 national team but I just don't see it.

Its summertime. Lets let September roll around and some games play out and then we can discuss all this. I want to wait until after SLC vs North Shore before I decide what SLC has for 2008.