Operation Chaos officially comes to a close

[shslb15]

Sadly, Hillary is close to calling it quits. She did a great job in essentially destroying the democratic race by just sticking in the race and letting republicans vote for her in the primaries. Obama has lost a lot of democratic votes to the just alittle more right than he is Mccain and thats all because they support Clinton more than Obama and won't vote for Obama. Mccain is a Liberal anyways so they won't lose entirely

[Favpack]

Oops - we posted at the same time - lol.

[CyFallsMom]

According to CNN - she isn't done yet and she "absolutely" isn't conceding. Sounds like Obama's camp jumped the gun a bit. In the end, she is done anyway but she's going down fighting I guess.

[Favpack]

According to CNN - she isn't done yet and she "absolutely" isn't conceding. Sounds like Obama's camp jumped the gun a bit. In the end, she is done anyway but she's going down fighting I guess.

As I noted in my double thread - I think she's pushing for VP - as she should be. If Obama can drop his ego a bit and team up with her - McCain could be in big trouble. We'll see.

[katyfan52]

Sadly, Hillary is close to calling it quits. She did a great job in essentially destroying the democratic race by just sticking in the race and letting republicans vote for her in the primaries. Obama has lost a lot of democratic votes to the just alittle more right than he is Mccain and thats all because they support Clinton more than Obama and won't vote for Obama. Mccain is a Liberal anyways so they won't lose entirely

Yeh. Anti choice and pro war and pro Bush tax cuts are the penultimate definition of a liberal. :rolleyes: Take a close look. This may be one of the few times you see me engage in sarcasm. :laugh

[okt0ber]

Yeh. Anti choice and pro war and pro Bush tax cuts are the penultimate definition of a liberal. :rolleyes: Take a close look. This may be one of the few times you see me engage in sarcasm. :laugh

I don't fully believe McCain fully supports the Bush tax cuts because he talks a lot about only spending what we take in. And, I'm also not so sure he's going to cut spending, which means if he wants to only spend what he takes in, he's going to have to take in more. I think he's interested in lowering corporate income tax and, in some fashion, changing the Bush tax cuts.


Anyhow, I'm listening to Rush right now and he believes that Clinton is going to win South Dakota and stay in the race.....

[CyFallsMom]

As I noted in my double thread - I think she's pushing for VP - as she should be. If Obama can drop his ego a bit and team up with her - McCain could be in big trouble. We'll see.

I agree -this team would give McCain a very difficult time but that ego is so ginormous, I think we would hear it drop here in Texas. That is a very big obstacle for him....his ego that is.

[HUM398]

As I noted in my double thread - I think she's pushing for VP - as she should be. If Obama can drop his ego a bit and team up with her - McCain could be in big trouble. We'll see.

Obama isn't going to pick Hilary Clinton as a VP, he wants to live through his Term.

[CyFallsMom]

Obama isn't going to pick Hilary Clinton as a VP, he wants to live through his Term.

I've heard many people (mostly on talking head radio shows) say they feel he will not live through it either way. There are a lot of crazies out there as we all know. I don't care who the person is, I don't like hearing that kind of stuff....joking or not. I remember when JFK was killed, it was horrible and I remember it because it was so traumatic for all the adults around me.

I am not joking either when I say that I still think the mafia had something to do with that.

[pied]

I've heard many people (mostly on talking head radio shows) say they feel he will not live through it either way. There are a lot of crazies out there as we all know. I don't care who the person is, I don't like hearing that kind of stuff....joking or not. I remember when JFK was killed, it was horrible and I remember it because it was so traumatic for all the adults around me.

I am not joking either when I say that I still think the mafia had something to do with that.

There is a thread on this board with several members discussing him being the anti-christ and I am serious.

[KT2000]

I think it is more of a 2012 set-up than anything. Because she's stuck with the race, she'll be able to play the "I told you so" card and have the Democrats who switched allegiances groveling at her feet if McCain wins.

She will be able to play the same card if Obama wins and then fails as president, and then we'll be blessed with more stories of how she dodged Serbian sniper fire as First Lady.

Hillary is one power hungry vieja, and that is what scares me the most about her. She's displayed every reason she'd fail miserably as president in her campaign. I think she lost the democratic nomination after South Carolina and the Billary controversy. She's been on a "save face" mission ever since, and partially succeeded thanks to some small morale boosting wins and Jeremiah Wright.

[pied]

Originally Posted by CyFallsMom

I've heard many people (mostly on talking head radio shows) say they feel he will not live through it either way. There are a lot of crazies out there as we all know. I don't care who the person is, I don't like hearing that kind of stuff....joking or not. I remember when JFK was killed, it was horrible and I remember it because it was so traumatic for all the adults around me.

I am not joking either when I say that I still think the mafia had something to do with that.

There is a thread on this board with several members discussing him being the anti-christ and I am serious.


Oops, didn't realize you were one of the posters.

[HUM398]

There is a thread on this board with several members discussing him being the anti-christ and I am serious.

who?

[Pearland 06]

I don't fully believe McCain fully supports the Bush tax cuts because he talks a lot about only spending what we take in. And, I'm also not so sure he's going to cut spending, which means if he wants to only spend what he takes in, he's going to have to take in more. I think he's interested in lowering corporate income tax and, in some fashion, changing the Bush tax cuts.


Anyhow, I'm listening to Rush right now and he believes that Clinton is going to win South Dakota and stay in the race.....

Why?

[HUM398]

Why?

Why not?

[CyFallsMom]

Oops, didn't realize you were one of the posters.

LOL - yes, I mentioned that others (including my daughter and her friends) think he might be just going by what that entails - I do not believe that sort of jibberish but I do believe he is an egotist of great measure and a closet racist.

As for the Anti-Christ stuff - sorry, I don't believe in that stuff...but when you read about it, it can make you wonder at times. For kids or teens to believe in that - well, what else is new.

[CyFallsMom]

There is a thread on this board with several members discussing him being the anti-christ and I am serious.

and if you are making fun of the mafia comment? Just look who JFK was fraternizing with....Giancanna immediately comes to mind. He also messed around with Sam's girl so you really have to wonder. It's not a conspiracy theory, I just know how the mafia works. We had some at our wedding reception in NY;). Actually, I shouldn't put the winky smiley - we really did - and hauled away over $10k from about 75 people in 1984 dollars.

[pied]

and if you are making fun of the mafia comment? Just look who JFK was fraternizing with....Giancanna immediately comes to mind. He also messed around with Sam's girl so you really have to wonder. It's not a conspiracy theory, I just know how the mafia works. We had some at our wedding reception;).

Man I could watch JFK stuff for hours and think 100 different things.

The main thing holding me back from making the decision it was a cover up is the amount of people that had to have been involved and the fact that none of them have come forward almost 50 years later.

In any case back to Obama.

[CyFallsMom]

and some even say LBJ was responsible. It's true there are MANY many theories...mine is just what I said.

Do we HAVE to go back to Obama??:p

[t-long20]

Obama has lost a lot of democratic votes to the just alittle more right than he is Mccain and thats all because they support Clinton more than Obama and won't vote for Obama.

Thank you captain obvious. Im sure Obama will get over his "lost votes" and look foward to securing the nomination. If he did happen to lose votes it damn sure wasn't because of Hillary.

[t-long20]

Yeh. Anti choice and pro war and pro Bush tax cuts are the penultimate definition of a liberal. :rolleyes: Take a close look. This may be one of the few times you see me engage in sarcasm. :laugh

:notworthy:notworthy

[t-long20]

According to CNN - she isn't done yet

She still has a great shot to win the nomination.

[t-long20]

There is a thread on this board with several members discussing him being the anti-christ and I am serious.

First hes Obamessiah and now hes the anti-christ. Please make up your mind

[pied]

First hes Obamessiah and now hes the anti-christ. Please make up your mind

My mind?

Again, do you read things before you post?

[The King]

I think it is more of a 2012 set-up than anything. Because she's stuck with the race, she'll be able to play the "I told you so" card and have the Democrats who switched allegiances groveling at her feet if McCain wins.

She will be able to play the same card if Obama wins and then fails as president, and then we'll be blessed with more stories of how she dodged Serbian sniper fire as First Lady.

Hillary is one power hungry vieja, and that is what scares me the most about her. She's displayed every reason she'd fail miserably as president in her campaign. I think she lost the democratic nomination after South Carolina and the Billary controversy. She's been on a "save face" mission ever since, and partially succeeded thanks to some small morale boosting wins and Jeremiah Wright.

Agreed.

[The King]

Actually if she had thrown in this morning like the news said I would have been suprised, I would expect her to wait till at least tonight or tomoorw as far as she has gone.

[chhspantherfan]

First hes Obamessiah and now hes the anti-christ. Please make up your mind

t, he is referring to this thread
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=28875

[t-long20]

My mind?

Again, do you read things before you post?

Your not the only one but the "obama-haters" really need to make up their mind

[t-long20]

t, he is referring to this thread
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=28875

I know. Im speaking more in general than to a specific person. I shouldn't have quoted him.

[chhspantherfan]

"Hilliary isn't dropping out. She is waiting on the Michelle's other shoe to drop. Details coming soon." ----rumor making the rounds in Chaos camps

[RedRage00]

The average American voter is dumb. I was chatting with someone the other night and he said he was voting for "MacCain" :eek: I'm like, if you're going to support someone at least know how to spell their name. :rolleyes:

[ktCarl]

The average American voter is dumb. I was chatting with someone the other night and he said he was voting for "MacCain" :eek: I'm like, if you're going to support someone at least know how to spell their name. :rolleyes:

Mc is a contraction of Mac. :D

What is Operation Chaos? Is this a primer for the new Get Smart movie? For those too young to remember in Get Smart, Maxwell Smart fought against the evil organization called 'CHAOS'.

[RedRage00]

Mc is a contraction of Mac. :D

What is Operation Chaos? Is this a primer for the new Get Smart movie? For those too young to remember in Get Smart, Maxwell Smart fought against the evil organization called 'CHAOS'.

He doesn't spell is name "MacCain" though lol

[JMSFan]

My mind?

Again, do you read things before you post?

No he doesnt.

[t-long20]

No he doesnt.

You figured me out! Don't tell anyone!:eek:

[RedRage00]

Mc is a contraction of Mac. :D

What is Operation Chaos? Is this a primer for the new Get Smart movie? For those too young to remember in Get Smart, Maxwell Smart fought against the evil organization called 'CHAOS'.

Yeah, you're old.

:eek:

[okt0ber]

Why?

I listen to him almost daily. Glenn Beck, Rush, Hannity. Glenn Beck is the one that makes more sense.

[CyFallsMom]

I know. Im speaking more in general than to a specific person. I shouldn't have quoted him.

Probably speaking to me - but, then, I never would go so far as to call him Obamamessiah - because he isn't even close. So, as others have said, read what someone has said before you post (IF you are talking about me in this particular post)....if you aren't, then carry on - Your posts are fun:p

Your not the only one but the "obama-haters" really need to make up their mind

Just because your lord and master thinks he can tell everyone what to think doesn't mean any of us can tell others what to think. And I'll call him whatever I want and I do not need to make up my mind on what I will call him thank you very much!:)....and I promise not to say anything about your grammar in this one:)

[t-long20]

Just because your lord and master thinks he can tell everyone what to think doesn't mean any of us can tell others what to think.

My Lord doesn't tell anyone what to think.

[JMSFan]

You figured me out! Don't tell anyone!:eek:

Figured you out a long time ago. Not that its a great accomplishment, you're pretty transparent.

[t-long20]

Figured you out a long time ago. Not that its a great accomplishment, you're pretty transparent.

Your pretty clueless.

[ktCarl]

He doesn't spell is name "MacCain" though lol

Paul MacCartney
MacDonald's

It's all the same to me.

[JMSFan]

Your pretty clueless.

Dont take it too personal. Your tooth and nail defense of the OhBama is pretty pathetic, and it just illuminates your sole reason for voting for him in November. JMHO

Unless you are willing to explain what all the " Hope, Changey, Changey, Hope" is all about.

[Dawg Fan]

The average American voter is dumb. I was chatting with someone the other night and he said he was voting for "MacCain" :eek: I'm like, if you're going to support someone at least know how to spell their name. :rolleyes:

hey there is an idea, everyone that can't spell the candidate's name they want to vote for should be disqualified:rolleyes: That ought to kill the democrats

You really do think too highly of yourself making judgments about others. You sure get bent when others make judgments of you.

[RedRage00]

Paul MacCartney
MacDonald's

It's all the same to me.

I guess we can start calling Katy "Katie" then right? :cool:

[RedRage00]

hey there is an idea, everyone that can't spell the candidate's name they want to vote for should be disqualified:rolleyes: That ought to kill the democrats

You really do think too highly of yourself making judgments about others. You sure get bent when others make judgments of you.

Umm, ok

And I really don't care what people think of me...really ;)

Judgments about others? Yeah, you NEVER do that...LMFAO

[ktCarl]

I guess we can start calling Katy "Katie" then right? :cool:

KT to you!!! :D

[t-long20]

Dont take it too personal. Your tooth and nail defense of the OhBama is pretty pathetic, and it just illuminates your sole reason for voting for him in November. JMHO

Defense? Obama doesn't need my defense. But ofourse that kind of response is expected coming from your bigoted views. You continue to show your inept regarding anything remotely political that has been brought up in these threads.

I could ask you why your voting for McCain and what his political stances are but I already know the obvious answer to that one. I wouldn't want you to waste your precious time using google yet again to look up: "McCains political positions".

[RedRage00]

KT to you!!! :D

I guess that'll pass. :cool:

Can you tell your bro #1dawgfan to get his panties out of a knot lol...he obviously doesn't have his sarcasm hat on. lol

He must have failed spelling in elementary school. ;)

[CyFallsMom]

Paul MacCartney
MacDonald's

It's all the same to me.

Now don't bring my boyfriend (don't I WISH) into this mess;). Sir Paul should not be compared to McCain OR McDonalds!! And he better NOT be compared to Obama - there is no comparison...Sir Paul wins in every category every time kids.

But then I'm very biased when it comes to the Fab Four.

[JMSFan]

Defense? Obama doesn't need my defense. But ofourse that kind of response is expected coming from your bigoted views. You continue to show your inept regarding anything remotely political that has been brought up in these threads.

I could ask you why your voting for McCain and what his political stances are but I already know the obvious answer to that one. I wouldn't want you to waste your precious time using google yet again to look up: "McCains political positions".

PLEASE tell me why you are going to vote for Obama. Explain the "Hope, Changey, Changey, Hope " platform that he is running on.
Give me 3 reasons based on his political leanings and your reasons that you stand on the same side of those issues. Are those the reasons you will vote for him, or what?

[ktCarl]

I guess that'll pass. :cool:

Can you tell your bro #1dawgfan to get his panties out of a knot lol...he obviously doesn't have his sarcasm hat on. lol

He must have failed spelling in elementary school. ;)

I don't know him well enough to chastise him but I can call you gay!! :eek:

[CyFallsMom]

My Lord doesn't tell anyone what to think.

Notice I didn't capitalize "lord" because your Lord is probably the same as mine - I was referring to your other one.

[t-long20]

Unless you are willing to explain what all the " Hope, Changey, Changey, Hope" is all about.

Just as I expected. Your too much of an idiot to comprehend what the whole change campaign is all about.

Republicans and Obama-haters alike always want me to break down the whole "change" and "hope" campaign as if their some kind of baby that needs to be spoon fed and diapers changed.

What? You want me to hold your hand when you go potty too?

[RedRage00]

I don't know him well enough to chastise him but I can call you gay!! :eek:

lol :eek:

[t-long20]

Notice I didn't capitalize "lord" because your Lord is probably the same as mine - I was referring to your other one.

My other one? Who might that be? I have one Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Are you suggesting I have a false god that I put above the Almighty?

[JMSFan]

Just as I expected. Your too much of an idiot to comprehend what the whole change campaign is all about.

Republicans and Obama-haters alike always want me to break down the whole "change" and "hope" campaign as if their some kind of baby that needs to be spoon fed and diapers changed.

What? You want me to hold your hand when you go potty too?

EXACTLY my point. You dont know anything about him. You are a supporter of his, gonna go waste your vote at the polls, and are not even informed enough about him or national politics.
So please explain the Hope Change campaign so that maybe I can understand.

[pied]

Your not the only one but the "obama-haters" really need to make up their mind

Obama hater, me? Very incorrect.

You are concluding because I thought the DNC made a mistake by not avoiding an issue in FL/MI that I don't like Obama? I supported that opinion by usuing quotes John Edwards' supporters made over a year ago, well before the primaries happened.

You read what you wnat to read no matter what is typed. Not only is your mind made up, but it is made up as to what others think as well.

[t-long20]

PLEASE tell me why you are going to vote for Obama. Explain the "Hope, Changey, Changey, Hope " platform that he is running on.
Give me 3 reasons based on his political leanings and your reasons that you stand on the same side of those issues. Are those the reasons you will vote for him, or what?

PLEASE tell me why you are going to vote for McCain. Explain to me why he won't be Bush's third term. Give me three reasons based on his political background and experience on why you think he is best qualified to be commander in chief.

PLEASE tell me his stances regarding the economy and how he intends to get it back on its feet. Foreign Policy? Healthcare? funding billions for the war? Are those the reasons your voting for him?

I remember asking this same question to you a while ago and you have avoided it ever since. Its ironic how jmsfan can't answer the same question he tries to dish out.

[RedRage00]

EXACTLY my point. You dont know anything about him. You are a supporter of his, gonna go waste your vote at the polls, and are not even informed enough about him or national politics.
So please explain the Hope Change campaign so that maybe I can understand.

Why should he waste his time answering you? Do you really think its going to change your opinion on Obama?

I have yet to see anyone give their reasons for McCain....I think even GoOwls started a thread and very little people contributed to it.

[CyFallsMom]

Are you suggesting I have a false god that I put above the Almighty?

If you say so - isn't that what Obama is to so many people? Seems to be...the cult members of Obamaland seem to think he's perfect in every way - I only know of one being that falls into that category of perfect. None of these candidates are anything special if you ask me. Not even McCain. But I will vote for him because he isn't SO far to the left that he's falling over into the Pacific Ocean and he is our best chance out of a sickly lot at protecting our borders. The war will go on - yes, even if your friend there is elected. The President doesn't have that kind of power that he can just stop a war in its tracks. If he goes over to make nice with the terrorists, it will be us who pays the price in the end. Also, remember one very important thing when talking about our economy - it's a democratic Congress.

side note: "You are" is "you're" in contraction form. Sorry - that's been bugging the heck out of me.

[t-long20]

Obama hater, me? Very incorrect.

You are concluding because I thought the DNC made a mistake by not avoiding an issue in FL/MI that I don't like Obama? I supported that opinion by usuing quotes John Edwards' supporters made over a year ago, well before the primaries happened.

You read what you wnat to read no matter what is typed. Not only is your mind made up, but it is made up as to what others think as well.

I must've mistaken you for the other Obama-haters on here. Like I stated on another post I shouldn't have quoted you with my initial response.

[t-long20]

If you say so - isn't that what Obama is to so many people?.

Thank you for grouping me with those other people. Nice stereotype you got going there.

[mojotrain]

Just as I expected. Your too much of an idiot to comprehend what the whole change campaign is all about.

Republicans and Obama-haters alike always want me to break down the whole "change" and "hope" campaign as if their some kind of baby that needs to be spoon fed and diapers changed.

What? You want me to hold your hand when you go potty too?


No one should ask you for his complete platform. I don't care to swamp you so I won't ask for a list. so just name one thing that he intends to change. We can debate one issue at a time.

[t-long20]

EXACTLY my point. You dont know anything about him. You are a supporter of his, gonna go waste your vote at the polls, and are not even informed enough about him or national politics.
So please explain the Hope Change campaign so that maybe I can understand.

Everybody please notice how jmsfan has failed to answer any of my questions. Thank you for proving my point.

BTW. If you want me to explain 'change' and 'hope' for the 1,000 time just ask slorch.

[t-long20]

Why should he waste his time answering you? Do you really think its going to change your opinion on Obama?

I have yet to see anyone give their reasons for McCain....I think even GoOwls started a thread and very little people contributed to it.

:notworthy:notworthy Exactly. They alwys want me to answer their questions for the 100th time yet they can't seem to answer mine.


Oh the irony!

[JMSFan]

Everybody please notice how jmsfan has failed to answer any of my questions. Thank you for proving my point.

BTW. If you want me to explain 'change' and 'hope' for the 1,000 time just ask slorch.

Uh..... I asked you those questions first, sorry you got confused. I only asked you for 3 things to explain about hope,change.

[CyFallsMom]

Thank you for grouping me with those other people. Nice stereotype you got going there.

Only going by what I read here since I don't know you personally nor you me. I don't care for any of them but I vote because it's my right just as it's yours. I don't consider your vote for Obama a waste either - it's your right and your choice. That's what is so great about being an American and living in this great country.

But, you won't see me defend McCain as much as some do Obama - he has issues too - they just don't seem as large as Obama's (my opinion).

The stereotype comes from the Obama people not being able to A) explain why they will vote for him other than either to be hip and cool or he is all about "CHANGE" and/or B) fighting with everyone who whispers something untoward about their idol. In some strange way, I understand that last part. I am the same way about my idols but the two remaining members, Ringo and Paul, aren't running for the office of President of the greatest country on this planet.

[JMSFan]

No one should ask you for his complete platform. I don't care to swamp you so I won't ask for a list. so just name one thing that he intends to change. We can debate one issue at a time.

I only asked for 3 reasons. Didnt seem like too much to ask of the Obama fan club president.

[mojotrain]

Why should he waste his time answering you? Do you really think its going to change your opinion on Obama?

I have yet to see anyone give their reasons for McCain....I think even GoOwls started a thread and very little people contributed to it.

Here is one RR. McCain will continue to keep the Muslims who have intent to kill Most Americans off our front steps. Your guy will pull up Americas dress.

[pied]

I must've mistaken you for the other Obama-haters on here. Like I stated on another post I shouldn't have quoted you with my initial response.


What I think is that you are so quick to defend your point, you ignore others' and assume what you think they are saying. Perhaps they agree with you.

For now I am torn. Like most if I lined up issues that are important to me and what the various candidates stand for, I would vote for like 48% for one and 52% of the other. It doesn't work like that so I am stuck.

To be honest I don't think much of what the POTUS will do in four years is that impactful on the daily lives of us, me in particular. By the time the House and Senate get through taking their cut and pork what gets to me is a pittance.

I think much of what a President can offer is a direction and guidance. I will get grilled for this, but I think Obama might be great in that regard. One of the things I like about McCain is that he is not just a Republican but willing to buck the party. Obama sounds the same way.

The problem, I understand(I have not done all my research yet) is that both these guys vote the party line almost exclusively, yipee....

[RedRage00]

Here is one RR. McCain will continue to keep the Muslims who have intent to kill Most Americans off our front steps. Your guy will pull up Americas dress.

So now you know who I'm voting for? I've never told anyone who I'm voting for. lol Find the post where I said who I'm voting for.

I defend T-long and Obama most of the time because yall bring up stupid reasons to not like Obama...like his middle name and such. No matter who I'm voting for those are stupid tactics.

FAIL! Try again.

[RedRage00]

Oh, and you can quote me too and then pretend you don't know how to edit. :rolleyes:

[JMSFan]

So now you know who I'm voting for? I've never told anyone who I'm voting for. lol Find the post where I said who I'm voting for.

I defend T-long and Obama most of the time because yall bring up stupid reasons to not like Obama...like his middle name and such. No matter who I'm voting for those are stupid tactics.

FAIL! Try again.

I have said before why I dont like Obama, and it has nothing to do with his miidle name and such. Or his skin color.

[shslb15]

PLEASE tell me why you are going to vote for McCain. Explain to me why he won't be Bush's third term. Give me three reasons based on his political background and experience on why you think he is best qualified to be commander in chief.

PLEASE tell me his stances regarding the economy and how he intends to get it back on its feet. Foreign Policy? Healthcare? funding billions for the war? Are those the reasons your voting for him?

I remember asking this same question to you a while ago and you have avoided it ever since. Its ironic how jmsfan can't answer the same question he tries to dish out.

Well we are still waiting to hear your explanation to why you are voting for Obama. How about why I am NOT voting for Obama and sadly am forced into voting for McCain:

1. Listen to anything that Obama says, really anything. He goes on and on about all this stuff he is going to do, BUT THEN ASK YOURSELF.. WITH WHAT MONEY!?!? How is he going to get all of this money? Oh I know, BY TAXING THE :Censor: OUT OF ALL OF US, wait my mistake by only taxing those who have the money to be taxed. Before Reagan became president there was a 70% tax on the upper tax bracket. Thus if you work hard and become successful than you only get to keep 30% of your income.

2. I really don't want to get into it because I could be talking for a long time but I think McCain might be alittle better about not further crippling our economy by way of the biggest scam of all time but if Obama were president the bills to "Curb" the non existent Global Warming wouldn't be vetoed. I don't want to get into this any more but if you disagree with me about global warming then I advise you to either read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming by Christopher C Horner. Or look at the studies of John Coleman who is best known as the scientist who founded the Weather Channel and also who has recently filed a law suit against Al Gore among other scientist as the only way for them to come in and debate. Alittle suspicious for Al Gore and friends to completely avoid a debate with QUALIFIED SCIENTISTS.

3. Great foreign policy. Talk and make agreements with Iran while the IRANIAN PRESIDENT IS SAYING THAT ISREAL SHOULD BE WHIPED OFF THE MAP. Now that is some great foreign policy. The war is the war. Obama is saying that he will continue the war for almost half of his time as president.

4. I swear if I hear anything more about Universal Healthcare I may explode. I don't know if you realize how discusting that is. The idea that your tax dollars here that you work for here in Texas is being spent for someone elses knee surgery in OHIO!?!?! That is a false ideal. It doesn't work. If you want that then move to Cuba or Canada. Go watch another Michael Moore film.

5. HE IS A SOCIALIST!!!!!!! Isn't this supposed to be a capitalist country. Well not at all anymore. Which is really sickening. More and more taxes and restrictions will be placed on businesses to level out the playing field for everyone. Why not let businesses be free to produce. Reagan did that in the 80's and the US had some of the most productive and profitable days ever. Why can't we go back to that.

6. Just to say again QUIT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY!!! (It is inexcussable that the Republicans continue to shell out money like crazy but the Democrats are just as bad) The Republicans have been out Democrating the Democrats but still saying that, Obama is still worse.

7. You want to know what McCain has done, what his track record has been. He has voted for many liberal bills and that is inexcussable but the fact you havn't really heard much from him in congress is a good thing. You don't hear him campaigning for some thing worthless like CHEATING IN BASEBALL. What I ask you is what has Obama done in his time as a senator? Really do you know? What has he voted for, what has he voted against? Thats whats important.


I can probably get about 20 more points but I'll stop here. The problem is you really don't know. You sit there and pose the perfect LIBERAL arguement that all liberals use. You all sit there not knowing what you are talking about and just throw out threats and insults. Really let me hear your take on his policies. I choose to vote for McCain not because I agree with what he is pushing but because I COMPLETELY disagree with everything that Obama has said. The Republican party still has some tiny aspects of its old conservative self but I'll take the Liberal McCain over the Socialist Radical Obama.

[okt0ber]

Everybody please notice how jmsfan has failed to answer any of my questions. Thank you for proving my point.

BTW. If you want me to explain 'change' and 'hope' for the 1,000 time just ask slorch.

Like you ever answer any questions. You read someone's post and then reply with something totally off the wall that makes little sense most of the time.

[okt0ber]

Well we are still waiting to hear your explanation to why you are voting for Obama. How about why I am NOT voting for Obama and sadly am forced into voting for McCain:

1. Listen to anything that Obama says, really anything. He goes on and on about all this stuff he is going to do, BUT THEN ASK YOURSELF.. WITH WHAT MONEY!?!? How is he going to get all of this money? Oh I know, BY TAXING THE :Censor: OUT OF ALL OF US, wait my mistake by only taxing those who have the money to be taxed. Before Reagan became president there was a 70% tax on the upper tax bracket. Thus if you work hard and become successful than you only get to keep 30% of your income.

2. I really don't want to get into it because I could be talking for a long time but I think McCain might be alittle better about not further crippling our economy by way of the biggest scam of all time but if Obama were president the bills to "Curb" the non existent Global Warming wouldn't be vetoed. I don't want to get into this any more but if you disagree with me about global warming then I advise you to either read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming by Christopher C Horner. Or look at the studies of John Coleman who is best known as the scientist who founded the Weather Channel and also who has recently filed a law suit against Al Gore among other scientist as the only way for them to come in and debate. Alittle suspicious for Al Gore and friends to completely avoid a debate with QUALIFIED SCIENTISTS.

3. Great foreign policy. Talk and make agreements with Iran while the IRANIAN PRESIDENT IS SAYING THAT ISREAL SHOULD BE WHIPED OFF THE MAP. Now that is some great foreign policy. The war is the war. Obama is saying that he will continue the war for almost half of his time as president.

4. I swear if I hear anything more about Universal Healthcare I may explode. I don't know if you realize how discusting that is. The idea that your tax dollars here that you work for here in Texas is being spent for someone elses knee surgery in OHIO!?!?! That is a false ideal. It doesn't work. If you want that then move to Cuba or Canada. Go watch another Michael Moore film.

5. HE IS A SOCIALIST!!!!!!! Isn't this supposed to be a capitalist country. Well not at all anymore. Which is really sickening. More and more taxes and restrictions will be placed on businesses to level out the playing field for everyone. Why not let businesses be free to produce. Reagan did that in the 80's and the US say some of the most productive and profitable days ever. Why can't we go back to that.

6. Just to say again QUIT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY!!! (It is inexcussable that the Republican continue to shell out money like crazy but the Democrats are just as bad) The Republicans have been out Democrating the Democrats but still saying that, Obama is still worse.

7. You want to know what McCain has done, what his track record has been. He has voted for many liberal bills and that is inexcussable but the fact you havn't really heard much from him in congress is a good thing. You don't hear him campaigning for some thing worthless like CHEATING IN BASEBALL. What I ask you is what has Obama done in his time as a senator? Really do you know? What has he voted for, what has he voted against? Thats whats important.


I can probably get about 20 more points but I'll stop here. The problem is you really don't know. You sit there and pose the perfect LIBERAL arguement that all liberals use. You all sit there not knowing what you are talking about and just throw out threats and insults. Really let me hear your take on his policies. I choose to vote for McCain not because I agree with what he is pushing but because I COMPLETELY disagree with everything that Obama has said. The Republican party still has some tiny aspects of its old conservative self but I'll take the Liberal McCain over the Socialist Radical Obama.

I'm only addressing number two... McCain isn't going to veto those bills at all what so ever. In fact, this Cap and Trade bill currently in the senate was written by John McCain and Joseph Lieberman! So, if you're worried about that stuff, we're screwed any way you look at it.

[shslb15]

I'm only addressing number two... McCain isn't going to veto those bills at all what so ever. In fact, this Cap and Trade bill currently in the senate was written by John McCain and Joseph Lieberman! So, if you're worried about that stuff, we're screwed any way you look at it.

I said he was a liberal from the start. I was just hoping some of that Republican influence would rub off... maybe a little... but I doubt it.

[CyFallsMom]

Well we are still waiting to hear your explanation to why you are voting for Obama. How about why I am NOT voting for Obama and sadly am forced into voting for McCain:

1. Listen to anything that Obama says, really anything. He goes on and on about all this stuff he is going to do, BUT THEN ASK YOURSELF.. WITH WHAT MONEY!?!? How is he going to get all of this money? Oh I know, BY TAXING THE OUT OF ALL OF US, wait my mistake by only taxing those who have the money to be taxed. Before Reagan became president there was a 70% tax on the upper tax bracket. Thus if you work hard and become successful than you only get to keep 30% of your income.

2. I really don't want to get into it because I could be talking for a long time but I think McCain might be alittle better about not further crippling our economy by way of the biggest scam of all time but if Obama were president the bills to "Curb" the non existent Global Warming wouldn't be vetoed. I don't want to get into this any more but if you disagree with me about global warming then I advise you to either read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming by Christopher C Horner. Or look at the studies of John Coleman who is best known as the scientist who founded the Weather Channel and also who has recently filed a law suit against Al Gore among other scientist as the only way for them to come in and debate. Alittle suspicious for Al Gore and friends to completely avoid a debate with QUALIFIED SCIENTISTS.

3. Great foreign policy. Talk and make agreements with Iran while the IRANIAN PRESIDENT IS SAYING THAT ISREAL SHOULD BE WHIPED OFF THE MAP. Now that is some great foreign policy. The war is the war. Obama is saying that he will continue the war for almost half of his time as president.

4. I swear if I hear anything more about Universal Healthcare I may explode. I don't know if you realize how discusting that is. The idea that your tax dollars here that you work for here in Texas is being spent for someone elses knee surgery in OHIO!?!?! That is a false ideal. It doesn't work. If you want that then move to Cuba or Canada. Go watch another Michael Moore film.

5. HE IS A SOCIALIST!!!!!!! Isn't this supposed to be a capitalist country. Well not at all anymore. Which is really sickening. More and more taxes and restrictions will be placed on businesses to level out the playing field for everyone. Why not let businesses be free to produce. Reagan did that in the 80's and the US say some of the most productive and profitable days ever. Why can't we go back to that.

6. Just to say again QUIT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY!!! (It is inexcussable that the Republican continue to shell out money like crazy but the Democrats are just as bad) The Republicans have been out Democrating the Democrats but still saying that, Obama is still worse.

7. You want to know what McCain has done, what his track record has been. He has voted for many liberal bills and that is inexcussable but the fact you havn't really heard much from him in congress is a good thing. You don't hear him campaigning for some thing worthless like CHEATING IN BASEBALL. What I ask you is what has Obama done in his time as a senator? Really do you know? What has he voted for, what has he voted against? Thats whats important.


I can probably get about 20 more points but I'll stop here. The problem is you really don't know. You sit there and pose the perfect LIBERAL arguement that all liberals use. You all sit there not knowing what you are talking about and just throw out threats and insults. Really let me hear your take on his policies. I choose to vote for McCain not because I agree with what he is pushing but because I COMPLETELY disagree with everything that Obama has said. The Republican party still has some tiny aspects of its old conservative self but I'll take the Liberal McCain over the Socialist Radical Obama.

My gosh you are my HERO!!! I was just getting ready to put some points and you took the words right out of my mouth. And the Socialistic piece is the biggest piece for me. Then the opening our borders up for the world to enter is a close second. I am so with you on his "speeches" where he promises the world but these brainwashed followers don't realize that NONE of these politicians can give us the world. He is no better, in my opinion, than a cult leader who tells people just what they want to hear and then goes in for the kill. These people are usually down and out and think that he will show them the gold paved road to Oz. None of these candidates will do that but I don't hear McCain professing that he will. McCain is not Bush as so many Obamalamadingdongs keep saying. He is much further center in his thinking but he does know that he isn't going to change the country overnight as Obama seems to think. Anyway, thanks for putting that out there so I could stop my list...you covered my thoughts completely.

[RedRage00]

My gosh you are my HERO!!! I was just getting ready to put some points and you took the words right out of my mouth. And the Socialistic piece is the biggest piece for me. Then the opening our borders up for the world to enter is a close second. I am so with you on his "speeches" where he promises the world but these brainwashed followers don't realize that NONE of these politicians can give us the world. He is no better, in my opinion, than a cult leader who tells people just what they want to hear and then goes in for the kill. These people are usually down and out and think that he will show them the gold paved road to Oz. None of these candidates will do that but I don't hear McCain professing that he will. McCain is not Bush as so many Obamalamadingdongs keep saying. He is much further center in his thinking but he does know that he isn't going to change the country overnight as Obama seems to think. Anyway, thanks for putting that out there so I could stop my list...you covered my thoughts completely.

Why do you cut off the PERSON who you are quoting....that is bugging me...almost like YOUR instead of YOU'RE that bugs you about t-long.

Ok, thats off my chest lol

RR

[shslb15]

My gosh you are my HERO!!! I was just getting ready to put some points and you took the words right out of my mouth. And the Socialistic piece is the biggest piece for me. Then the opening our borders up for the world to enter is a close second. I am so with you on his "speeches" where he promises the world but these brainwashed followers don't realize that NONE of these politicians can give us the world. He is no better, in my opinion, than a cult leader who tells people just what they want to hear and then goes in for the kill. These people are usually down and out and think that he will show them the gold paved road to Oz. None of these candidates will do that but I don't hear McCain professing that he will. McCain is not Bush as so many Obamalamadingdongs keep saying. He is much further center in his thinking but he does know that he isn't going to change the country overnight as Obama seems to think. Anyway, thanks for putting that out there so I could stop my list...you covered my thoughts completely.

The rest of what you have said is so true. He is essentially a cult leader. And I didn't really take into acount the free boarders. I am still up for building the gigantic wall.

My idea of Obama in the White House is something straight out of Atlas Shrugged..... Who is John Galt?

[WestPlano006]

I've heard many people (mostly on talking head radio shows) say they feel he will not live through it either way. There are a lot of crazies out there as we all know. I don't care who the person is, I don't like hearing that kind of stuff....joking or not. I remember when JFK was killed, it was horrible and I remember it because it was so traumatic for all the adults around me.

I am not joking either when I say that I still think the mafia had something to do with that.

Kennedy was another Obama type candidate. He didn't do anything, he just gave fabricated speeches and made people like his charisma, thats it.

[t-long20]

Yes. Everyone please continue to dogpile my quotes and pat eachother on the back with your moral victories.

No wonder some prefer not to enter politcal threads at all. Don't know why I even bothered.

Please excuse me if I prefer not to reply to each and every single rant. It'll just lead to more locked threads and a division between this football family we like to call 5atexasfootball.com

http://www.shaggybevo.com/forums/images/smiles/popcorn.gif

[WestPlano006]

Yes. Everyone please continue to dogpile my quotes and pat eachother on the back with your moral victories.

No wonder some prefer not to enter politcal threads at all. Don't know why I even bothered.

Please excuse me if I prefer not to reply to each and every single rant. It'll just lead to more locked threads and a division between this football family we like to call 5atexasfootball.com

http://www.shaggybevo.com/forums/images/smiles/popcorn.gif

Don't you just feel so special now?

[CyFallsMom]

Why do you cut off the PERSON who you are quoting....that is bugging me...almost like YOUR instead of YOU'RE that bugs you about t-long.

Ok, thats off my chest lol

RR

That isn't a grammar problem though is it? I have never pulled the name off but if it makes you a happy camper I will:). Again, I never have done that and I'm not alone. On second thought, I'll keep doing that and T-Long can keep using bad grammar. Why do you need to keep track to begin with - just read the threads.

[pied]

Yes. Everyone please continue to dogpile my quotes and pat eachother on the back with your moral victories.

No wonder some prefer not to enter politcal threads at all. Don't know why I even bothered.

Please excuse me if I prefer not to reply to each and every single rant. It'll just lead to more locked threads and a division between this football family we like to call 5atexasfootball.com

http://www.shaggybevo.com/forums/images/smiles/popcorn.gif

How about just sticking to the ones you read?

[CyFallsMom]

Kennedy was another Obama type candidate. He didn't do anything, he just gave fabricated speeches and made people like his charisma, thats it.

He was similar and he was Catholic which at the time was unheard of but my parents liked him so it was upsetting to them. If Obama were made President and he were assassinated - that would upset me as well. Just because I don't like the guy doesn't mean I wish bad things to happen to him. That's just not what I'm about.

[t-long20]

Well we are still waiting to hear your explanation to why you are voting for Obama.

Me against the whole board? No thanks. I don't have the time nor energy to reply to everyone who is responding to my posts. Ofcourse yall took the bait as usual.

Its funny how you have to change the question to fit your needs and you weren't even the person who the question was aimed at. Nice try.

[WestPlano006]

Here are my reasons for liking McCain. In fact, I only need one.

Obama - Socialist
McCain - Not a socialist

There are plenty of reasons out there to call Obama a socialist so I won't be arguing my claim. Given time, we will living like Russia did during the Cold War! Everyone gets paid the same no matter how they perform, because we want to reward those who slack off! Bring on the change!

[t-long20]

Don't you just feel so special now?
That isn't a grammar problem though is it? I have never pulled the name off but if it makes you a happy camper I will:). Again, I never have done that and I'm not alone. On second thought, I'll keep doing that and T-Long can keep using bad grammar.
How about just sticking to the ones you read?

Look at everyone showing their uterus and giving me all the attention. Thanks for taking the bait. I feel so loved.

[JMSFan]

Me against the whole board? No thanks. I don't have the time nor energy to reply to everyone who is responding to my posts. Ofcourse yall took the bait as usual.

Its funny how you have to change the question to fit your needs and you weren't even the person who the question was aimed at. Nice try.

Why do you feel you would be against the whole board? I asked you to explain, and so have others, just wanting an intelligent reply from you.
Please dont answer with another question.

[RedRage00]

That isn't a grammar problem though is it? I have never pulled the name off but if it makes you a happy camper I will:). Again, I never have done that and I'm not alone. On second thought, I'll keep doing that and T-Long can keep using bad grammar. Why do you need to keep track to begin with - just read the threads.

It's not a grammar problem but people would really like to know who you are quoting without going back to look for it. I read the threads but when you have 10 different people posting at the same time...why do you waste time deleting the name of the person you are quoting...nevermind lol

[WestPlano006]

Me against the whole board? No thanks. I don't have the time nor energy to reply to everyone who is responding to my posts. Ofcourse yall took the bait as usual.

Its funny how you have to change the question to fit your needs and you weren't even the person who the question was aimed at. Nice try.

Yes you do, practically every other post on here is from you.

[WestPlano006]

Why do you feel you would be against the whole board? I asked you to explain, and so have others, just wanting an intelligent reply from you.
Please dont answer with another question.

You see, they always will. It's what liberals have done forever and will continue to do. Don't waste your time guys, we will just have another 10 pages of bulls**t to read through with no substance.

[WestPlano006]

Look at everyone showing their uterus and giving me all the attention. Thanks for taking the bait. I feel so loved.

HAHA, how pathetic is this. You have to come on a message board and stir things up just to get any attention? Isn't that how most liberals now days get their attention anyway, their careers are going down the tube and they get people to notice them by making outrageous comments and creating problems? Just ask Alec Balwin and Susan Sarandon.

[rwilleby]

I guess we can start calling Katy "Katie" then right? :cool:

As long as you start it with "The Texas 5A State Champion" we don't care how you spell it! :)

[CyFallsMom]

It's not a grammar problem but people would really like to know who you are quoting without going back to look for it. I read the threads but when you have 10 different people posting at the same time...why do you waste time deleting the name of the person you are quoting...nevermind lol

Okay, is that better? My thing is - I've never done that before - I just cut and paste. This is easier anyway:rolleyes:

[rwilleby]

So, operation Chaos did just what it was supposed to do.. Muddy up the water at the Dem's camp and get them fighting within their ranks... Did Rush actually say it was over and time to move on to phase II?

On the race, as in Presidential, I don't get the Obama frenzy, understand the Hillary hating and would rather have another choice than McCain...

If you want to be truthful about it... Obama is getting the nomination because he is black... Hillary is not because she is corrupt... and McCain has because the Dem's ganged up in the early primaries and picked our candidate for us...

In a respectful way, before this thread gets locked, where am I wrong...

[CyFallsMom]

Look at everyone showing their uterus and giving me all the attention. Thanks for taking the bait. I feel so loved.

Okay, that's it - out of the sandbox!!

[RedRage00]

Okay, is that better? My thing is - I've never done that before - I just cut and paste. This is easier anyway:rolleyes:

Of course it's easier than cut and paste LOL...why were you doing it the old school way?

I still *heart* you even though I thought you were the dude in the avatar :eek:;)

[JMSFan]

So, operation Chaos did just what it was supposed to do.. Muddy up the water at the Dem's camp and get them fighting within their ranks... Did Rush actually say it was over and time to move on to phase II?

On the race, as in Presidential, I don't get the Obama frenzy, understand the Hillary hating and would rather have another choice than McCain...

If you want to be truthful about it... Obama is getting the nomination because he is black... Hillary is not be cause she is corrupt... and McCain has because the Dem's ganged up in the early primaries and picked our candidate for us...

In a respectful way, before this thread gets locked, where am I wrong...

Wow!...... just ...... Wow!

[CyFallsMom]

Of course it's easier than cut and paste LOL...why were you doing it the old school way?

I still *heart* you even though I thought you were the dude in the avatar :eek:;)

yeah, about that last part.....:D;)

[RedRage00]

Wow!...... just ...... Wow!

Good wow or bad wow? :D

[shslb15]

To respond to someone earlier I said that Operation Chaos was coming to a close because Hillary was supposedly bowing out but now after getting home from work I've now seen that those are false rumors so hopefully she takes this to the convention and it just turns out amazing :D....

[RedRage00]

To respond to someone earlier I said that Operation Chaos was coming to a close because Hillary was supposedly bowing out but now after getting home from work I've now seen that those are false rumors so hopefully she takes this to the convention and it just turns out amazing :D....

MSN is reporting otherwise.

[CyFallsMom]

To respond to someone earlier I said that Operation Chaos was coming to a close because Hillary was supposedly bowing out but now after getting home from work I've now seen that those are false rumors so hopefully she takes this to the convention and it just turns out amazing :D....

I think I might even venture to watch it then if that happens:). I just hope there is a lot of noise out of the MI and FL delegates who were left out. If they had done it right and it counted, Hillary would be ahead at this point. Again, not that I like her either but she is second best (or worst as it were) of three evils.

[CyFallsMom]

MSN is reporting otherwise.

actually CNN is reporting similar. Guess she wants to be VP - which would be terrible for Repubs because I think they could take it then. I just don't think Obama will go for that...two HUGE egos to fill such a small city.

[shslb15]

actually CNN is reporting similar. Guess she wants to be VP - which would be terrible for Repubs because I think they could take it then. I just don't think Obama will go for that...two HUGE egos to fill such a small city.

Obama will definitely not go for that... I almost see it in her best intrest (which I really don't care much about) to back out and after either one of these presidents fails miserable sit back in the "I told you so" standpoint and go for it in 2012. She won't be able to be Pres. after being VP to Obama in 2012.

[WestPlano006]

Obama will definitely not go for that... I almost see it in her best intrest (which I really don't care much about) to back out and after either one of these presidents fails miserable sit back in the "I told you so" standpoint and go for it in 2012. She won't be able to be Pres. after being VP to Obama in 2012.

Nobody will want to vote for the VP of one of the worst presidential terms in history.

[CyFallsMom]

Obama will definitely not go for that... I almost see it in her best intrest (which I really don't care much about) to back out and after either one of these presidents fails miserable sit back in the "I told you so" standpoint and go for it in 2012. She won't be able to be Pres. after being VP to Obama in 2012.


that would be the smart thing to do and I still think she is the most intelligent of the three whether we want to admit it or not. There is no way, if he gets in, that she would have any credibility remaining after he loses all of his (and that's a short road of credibility for him) within the first few months. By then, it will be too late and we will all be forced to go to the nearest government health center to see a doctor.

[CKE]

Everybody please notice how jmsfan has failed to answer any of my questions. Thank you for proving my point.

BTW. If you want me to explain 'change' and 'hope' for the 1,000 time just ask slorch.

You have not said a damn thing either t-long why don't you stop being a tity baby grow up be a man and take the initiative.I do notice how he has not said anything but you are no better and you do not have everyone in your corner after just because you try to call someone out

[Dawg Fan]

Umm, ok

And I really don't care what people think of me...really ;)

Judgments about others? Yeah, you NEVER do that...LMFAO

I guess you are the only one allowed to use sarcasm:rolleyes:

You are judgmental but think its ok because you can claim sarcasm. It goes both ways

[JMSFan]

Good wow or bad wow? :D

A speechless Wow! :D

[CKE]

So now you know who I'm voting for? I've never told anyone who I'm voting for. lol Find the post where I said who I'm voting for.

I defend T-long and Obama most of the time because yall bring up stupid reasons to not like Obama...like his middle name and such. No matter who I'm voting for those are stupid tactics.

FAIL! Try again.

Here is one RR. McCain will continue to keep the Muslims who have intent to kill Most Americans off our front steps. Your guy will pull up Americas dress.

I think thats a pretty damn good reason right there RR

[RedRage00]

I guess you are the only one allowed to use sarcasm:rolleyes:

You are judgmental but think its ok because you can claim sarcasm. It goes both ways

Was I judging anyone on this board with my original post? No, it was someone I was talking with outside this board so get slow your roll son.

[RedRage00]

I think thats a pretty damn good reason right there RR

One of the first answers given for either side. All anyone ever does on here is go back and forth back and forth and either side never gives a reason why they like their candidate. I've personally never said who I'm voting for on this board. Thats for me to know and Mojotrain to just assume he knows ;)

[Dawg Fan]

Was I judging anyone on this board with my original post? No, it was someone I was talking with outside this board so get slow your roll son.

doesn't make any difference who it is, you have no high ground here

[RedRage00]

doesn't make any difference who it is, you have no high ground here

You don't either. ;)

[Dawg Fan]

You don't either. ;)

never said I did;)

[rwilleby]

A speechless Wow! :D

I'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking... I don't really care for any of them...

Obama is a very good speaker and presents himself well, but the only thing he's accomplished is beating Hillary into the ground... Hillary must have a little bulldog in her because that woman just will not quit. She refuses to be denied but I'm afraid that time has come... and McCain, well I just don't trust him as a conservative...

[Dawg Fan]

You don't either. ;)

Who died and made you God?

caught it before you edited it ...is that your snappy comeback?


weak

[CKE]

Yes. Everyone please continue to dogpile my quotes and pat eachother on the back with your moral victories.

No wonder some prefer not to enter politcal threads at all. Don't know why I even bothered.

Please excuse me if I prefer not to reply to each and every single rant. It'll just lead to more locked threads and a division between this football family we like to call 5atexasfootball.com

http://www.shaggybevo.com/forums/images/smiles/popcorn.gif
That was your response...you get what you want.An explination to why someone is voting for McCain and you reply by bailing out of the conversation:rolleyes:

[CyFallsMom]

I'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking... I don't really care for any of them...

Obama is a very good speaker and presents himself well, but the only thing he's accomplished is beating Hillary into the ground... Hillary must have a little bulldog in her because that woman just will not quit. She refuses to be denied but I'm afraid that time has come... and McCain, well I just don't trust him as a conservative...

But he's all we've got and he's still not as far left as Obama.

[chhspantherfan]

nm

[RedRage00]

caught it before you edited it ...is that your snappy comeback?


weak


Nah, I just didn't wanna start any more drama.

[RedRage00]

But he's all we've got and he's still not as far left as Obama.

Face it, conservatives aren't as conservative as they used to be.

[CyFallsMom]

MY GOSH I WISH IT WERE ZERO WEEK!!!

I've figured it out - we are all just bored to tears and with our immense knowledge base and super human intelligence as a group - what else is there to do but argue politics????

I'll bet if I started a contentious thread about some team doing steroids or some coach getting caught with the head cheerleader under the bleachers - THAT would drag us away from this thread wouldn't it:D:rolleyes:;)

Sorry, I just wanted to try my best to inject a little humor here - this thread is causing so many of us to have hard feelings and, at the end of the day, aren't we all here because of a common thread - the Cy Falls Golden Eagles (LOL!!).

Okay, I'm done:o

[chhspantherfan]

MY GOSH I WISH IT WERE ZERO WEEK!!!

I've figured it out - we are all just bored to tears and with our immense knowledge base and super human intelligence as a group - what else is there to do but argue politics????

I'll bet if I started a contentious thread about some team doing steroids or some coach getting caught with the head cheerleader under the bleachers - THAT would drag us away from this thread wouldn't it:D:rolleyes:;)

Sorry, I just wanted to try my best to inject a little humor here - this thread is causing so many of us to have hard feelings and, at the end of the day, aren't we all here because of a common thread - the Cy Falls Golden Eagles (LOL!!).

Okay, I'm done:o



It is like a huge family with nothing to do.......except type:D

[RedRage00]

MY GOSH I WISH IT WERE ZERO WEEK!!!

I've figured it out - we are all just bored to tears and with our immense knowledge base and super human intelligence as a group - what else is there to do but argue politics????

I'll bet if I started a contentious thread about some team doing steroids or some coach getting caught with the head cheerleader under the bleachers - THAT would drag us away from this thread wouldn't it:D:rolleyes:;)

Sorry, I just wanted to try my best to inject a little humor here - this thread is causing so many of us to have hard feelings and, at the end of the day, aren't we all here because of a common thread - the Cy Falls Golden Eagles (LOL!!).

Okay, I'm done:o


who? :p

[CyFallsMom]

It is like a huge family with nothing to do.......except type:D

Oh - well in that case, it's a good thing we aren't the Hatfields or the McCoys - I would have been hit in the eye with a big plug of Red Man by now:p

[CyFallsMom]

who? :p

Brat!;)

[DragonWatcher]

I don't really think T-long is doing himself or Obama a favor by arguing the way he is so I'm gonna take a different approach in this and answer what some of you are clamoring for.

First I'm only arguing first why I support Obama as opposed to Clinton, it should be noted that I am a moderate democrat, I generally support liberal social policies but am for more conservative economic control, if there were a true libertarian candidate running that had a shot in hell I would probably vote for them, but that won't happen anytime soon.

One reason I am very very worried about Clinton is the rhetoric and method's she uses when in power, especially what happened in her husbands administration. Bill was did not try and worry about congressional support once he was in power, and democrats paid for that in 94 with Gingrich's Contract for America. He thought executive power was enough to enforce his issues, and didn't compromise as much as I would have liked him to. This is one reason why I think the healthcare reform under that administration failed. With Obama's massive fundraising machine, it will provide a significant boost down ticket to all democrats that are running. Once the names on that list are released to all democrats who are running, it will provide a significant boost to what has been in the past an area where republicans held a strong advantage.

I also have qualms with how the Clinton campaign has been managed. They have hemorrhaged money early one, expecting the race to be over by Feb 5. She ran as a washington monument, in a year where the general populace is about ready to tear washington down in frustration. Politics is not a field of absolute environments, it's an area of constantly changing status quos, if you can't adapt readily and successfully to a constantly changing environment its not a field for you.

Also as a personal not for my generation, why were flocking to Obama's message does have something to do with rhetoric. If you listen to Clinton talk, you'll hear her using the word "fight" almost constantly. It's about fighting the right wing, fighting for this, against that, a constant battle of whats blown up in rhetoric to almost biblical proportions. Obama on the other hand captured my vote when he gave his address to the 2004 Democratic National Convention

"It is that fundamental belief -- It is that fundamental belief: I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper that makes this country work. It’s what allows us to pursue our individual dreams and yet still come together as one American family.
Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us -- the spin masters, the negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of "anything goes." Well, I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America -- there is the United States of America. There is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America -- there’s the United States of America.

The pundits, the pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an "awesome God" in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.

In the end -- In the end -- In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or do we participate in a politics of hope?
I’m not talking about blind optimism here -- the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don’t think about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about something more substantial. It’s the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker’s son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too.

Hope -- Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!
I believe that we have a righteous wind at our backs and that as we stand on the crossroads of history, we can make the right choices, and meet the challenges that face us."

It's a very different style of politics. You might disagree with his politics, but he doesn't ignore conservatives or red republicans as a different group of people. That message, that style of politics is what I think both parties need in this country.


On why I support Obama over McCain. It's mostly based on the issues, I'm not going to pretend I don't have a liberal outlook on certain things. I think Obama is a better candidate to lead the country towards what I envision to be its future, a potential that inspires many younger voters like myself.

I considered voting for McCain over Clinton before he reversed many of his views during the primaries to try and swing himself to right? Is that what he truly believes? I don't know, but I see it as a Washington insiders method putting getting elected before that which he stands for.

Not all of us voting for Obama are blind or ignorant, I would imagine a great many like myself are very actively involved and would support his candidacy regardless of his age, and I look forward with great enthusiasm to casting my first presidential vote for him in the fall.

[CyFallsMom]

Well, at least you have a stand on the issue and I, for one, respect that

[pied]

It's a very different style of politics. You might disagree with his politics, but he doesn't ignore conservatives or red republicans as a different group of people. That message, that style of politics is what I think both parties need in this country.


On why I support Obama over McCain. It's mostly based on the issues, I'm not going to pretend I don't have a liberal outlook on certain things. I think Obama is a better candidate to lead the country towards what I envision to be its future, a potential that inspires many younger voters like myself.

I considered voting for McCain over Clinton before he reversed many of his views during the primaries to try and swing himself to right? Is that what he truly believes? I don't know, but I see it as a Washington insiders method putting getting elected before that which he stands for.

Not all of us voting for Obama are blind or ignorant, I would imagine a great many like myself are very actively involved and would support his candidacy regardless of his age, and I look forward with great enthusiasm to casting my first presidential vote for him in the fall.

DW-this is a very goo post. I agree withn much of it. I would probably reverse the bolded comment above for myself, but otherwise agree.

The paragraph I italicized I see the same in both candidates. I would like to see a politician gain power and vote their concious. At this point it does not appear, for all their talk that McCain or Obama have. They seem to vote party line.

Back to regularly scheduled programming

[Dawg Fan]

Nah, I just didn't wanna start any more drama.

your the drama queen:p BTW you should read my avatar sometime

[CKE]

http://www.bevosports.com/images/bevo-ou-sucks.jpg

[Dawg Fan]

http://www.bevosports.com/images/bevo-ou-sucks.jpg

and there my friends is the ying and the yang of the universe:notworthy

[rwilleby]

DragonWatcher, nice post... I was flipping through the channels one night and stumbled upon a Michelle Obama speech... It was earlier in the year... Man, that lady was smooth... Obama was cool under fire too... I can see why so many people are supportive of him in that regard...

On Hillary... Ron Brown, TravelGate, Bill, FBI Files, Foster... That river runs deep...

McCain, he's taking the flip-flop title away from John Kerry...

What's a voter to do... The lesser of two evils, again? I miss Ronald.

[WestPlano006]

http://www.bevosports.com/images/bevo-ou-sucks.jpg

How many Big 12 titles do you guys have?

The same as A&M? LOL

(That's 1 for those who don't know)

[Dawg Fan]

How many Big 12 titles do you guys have?

The same as A&M? LOL

(That's 1 for those who don't know)

doesn't change the facts:p

[WestPlano006]

doesn't change the facts:p

OU is #1 in the Big 12, Texas is #2. If you want to argue that good luck.

[pied]

How many Big 12 titles do you guys have?

The same as A&M? LOL

(That's 1 for those who don't know)

Ummm two

1996
2005

1 + 1 = 2 Math is difficult for some I know...

[CKE]

doesn't change the facts:p

You beat me to it

[CKE]

Ummm two

1996
2005

1 + 1 = 2 Math is difficult for some I know...
Beat me to that as well. Man im slow today

[WestPlano006]

Ummm two

1996
2005

1 + 1 = 2 Math is difficult for some I know...

Ah yes, forgot about 96.

Regardless, OU > TX in the Big 12.

Nothing can deny it right now, not even making me look dumb.

[CKE]

Ah yes, forgot about 96.

Regardless, OU > TX in the Big 12.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/2051526068_643f7a8f9a_o.jpg

[pied]

Ah yes, forgot about 96.

Regardless, OU > TX in the Big 12.

Nothing can deny it right now, not even making me look dumb.

You don't need me to make you look dumb apparently, you are doing a good enough job by yourself.

[WestPlano006]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/2051526068_643f7a8f9a_o.jpg

One picture of a stupid kid is the best you guys can come up with? Too bad you guys can't issue absolute beatdowns like these:

2000: OU 63 - TX 14
2003: OU 65 - TX 13

The funny thing is, Texas was actually a top 5 team.

[WestPlano006]

You don't need me to make you look dumb apparently, you are doing a good enough job by yourself.

Yeah, I'm dumb for claiming OU has more Big 12 titles than Texas. :rolleyes:

How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

[pied]

One picture of a stupid kid is the best you guys can come up with? Too bad you guys can't issue absolute beatdowns like these:

2000: OU 63 - TX 14
2003: OU 65 - TX 13

The funny thing is, Texas was actually a top 5 team.

I have a good one for you!

Originally Posted by WestPlano006

How many Big 12 titles do you guys have?

The same as A&M? LOL

(That's 1 for those who don't know)

Good stuff

[pied]

Yeah, I'm dumb for claiming OU has more Big 12 titles than Texas. :rolleyes:

How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

Official NCAA stats wrong or did you forget? Which is it?



Ah yes, forgot about 96.

[CKE]

Yeah, I'm dumb for claiming OU has more Big 12 titles than Texas. :rolleyes:

How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

No you "look" dumb for saying Texas only has 1.No one even argued that Texas has more so you look pretty dumb for making a non relative post as well

[CKE]

By the way I enjoy discussing the Suckage that is OU way more than politics. Just throwing that out there

[WestPlano006]

You guys are pathetic, the only thing you got on me is forgetting to credit Texas with 2 Big 12 titles and a picture of some stupid little kid crying. This is hilarious.

1996 Texas 6-2
1997 Nebraska 8-0
1998 Texas A&M 7-1
1999 Nebraska 7-1
2000 Oklahoma 8-0
2001 Colorado 7-1
2002 Oklahoma 6-2
2003 Kansas St. 6-2
2004 Oklahoma 8-0
2005 Texas 8-0
2006 Oklahoma 7-1
2007 Oklahoma 6-2

End of story. Maybe you'll continue the trend and win one by 2015?

[pied]

You guys are pathetic, the only thing you got on me is forgetting to credit Texas with 2 Big 12 titles and a picture of some stupid little kid crying.This is hilarious.

End of story.

OK, so now we're back to forgetting? You're done blaming the NCAA?


How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

[CKE]

You guys are pathetic, the only thing you got on me is forgetting to credit Texas with 2 Big 12 titles and a picture of some stupid little kid crying. This is hilarious.

1996 Texas 6-2
1997 Nebraska 8-0
1998 Texas A&M 7-1
1999 Nebraska 7-1
2000 Oklahoma 8-0
2001 Colorado 7-1
2002 Oklahoma 6-2
2003 Kansas St. 6-2
2004 Oklahoma 8-0
2005 Texas 8-0
2006 Oklahoma 7-1
2007 Oklahoma 6-2

End of story. Maybe you'll continue the trend and win one by 2015?

Hey we are not the ones making all the mistakes you are making yourself look ridiculous

[CKE]

OK, so now we're back to forgetting? You're done blaming the NCAA?


How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

I bet he blames the NCAA next :eek:

[WestPlano006]

OK, so now we're back to forgetting? You're done blaming the NCAA?


How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

I wasn't blaming the NCAA for my lack of knowledge....

The quote about the NCAA was in reference to us having more conference titles than Texas, which obviously we do. Pay attention more. Doesn't matter if you had 4, we still have more.

Yeah, I'm dumb for claiming OU has more Big 12 titles than Texas. :rolleyes:

How dare I believe those NCAA official stats.

[Dawg Fan]

I wasn't blaming the NCAA for my lack of knowledge....

The quote about the NCAA was in reference to us having more conference titles than Texas, which obviously we do. Pay attention more. Doesn't matter if you had 4, we still have more.


dude, get the hook out;) the more you fight the more everyone loves it

it was just thrown in there to lighten up another thread doomed to be locked

[mojotrain]

So now you know who I'm voting for? I've never told anyone who I'm voting for. lol Find the post where I said who I'm voting for.

I defend T-long and Obama most of the time because yall bring up stupid reasons to not like Obama...like his middle name and such. No matter who I'm voting for those are stupid tactics.

FAIL! Try again.

Well if you don't support Obama then just pass this message along to your friends. I'm not the "yall" you refer too. I gave a difference between Obama and McCain. Support your friend by telling us one thing that Obama is going to change.

[katyfan52]

My gosh you are my HERO!!! I was just getting ready to put some points and you took the words right out of my mouth. And the Socialistic piece is the biggest piece for me. Then the opening our borders up for the world to enter is a close second. I am so with you on his "speeches" where he promises the world but these brainwashed followers don't realize that NONE of these politicians can give us the world. He is no better, in my opinion, than a cult leader who tells people just what they want to hear and then goes in for the kill. These people are usually down and out and think that he will show them the gold paved road to Oz. None of these candidates will do that but I don't hear McCain professing that he will. McCain is not Bush as so many Obamalamadingdongs keep saying. He is much further center in his thinking but he does know that he isn't going to change the country overnight as Obama seems to think. Anyway, thanks for putting that out there so I could stop my list...you covered my thoughts completely.

Thanks. I am a Obama supporter. I am tired of the endless insults. Three reasons I would vote for Obama instead of McCain?? He disagreed with invading Iraq. So did I. He is pro choice, McCain is anti choice. He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation). There. Three reasons. Pretty simple and the first two are dealbreakers for me as far as who I will vote for. In 2000 I had more respect for McCain than I do now. The Bush campaign treated him like c**p. He subsequently sold out in order to ensure inheritance of Bush's campaign/fundraising machine IMHO, which is churning away for him. Methinks that his new support of the Bush tax cuts may be wrapped up in it somehow. We all vote for the candidate that we feel most represents our views. Period. End of story. Just because you disagree doesn't make the rest of us idiots. :ninja:

[mojotrain]

Was I judging anyone on this board with my original post? No, it was someone I was talking with outside this board so get slow your roll son.

Focus RR focus.

[mojotrain]

na:)

[mojotrain]

Face it, conservatives aren't as conservative as they used to be.

Yes they are!

[mojotrain]

That was your response...you get what you want.An explination to why someone is voting for McCain and you reply by bailing out of the conversation:rolleyes:

Truthfully, I hope we can still talk football.

[katyfan52]

Nobody will want to vote for the VP of one of the worst presidential terms in history.

Cheney isn't running, that's why we got McCain....:D

[katyfan52]

I don't really think T-long is doing himself or Obama a favor by arguing the way he is so I'm gonna take a different approach in this and answer what some of you are clamoring for.

First I'm only arguing first why I support Obama as opposed to Clinton, it should be noted that I am a moderate democrat, I generally support liberal social policies but am for more conservative economic control, if there were a true libertarian candidate running that had a shot in hell I would probably vote for them, but that won't happen anytime soon.

One reason I am very very worried about Clinton is the rhetoric and method's she uses when in power, especially what happened in her husbands administration. Bill was did not try and worry about congressional support once he was in power, and democrats paid for that in 94 with Gingrich's Contract for America. He thought executive power was enough to enforce his issues, and didn't compromise as much as I would have liked him to. This is one reason why I think the healthcare reform under that administration failed. With Obama's massive fundraising machine, it will provide a significant boost down ticket to all democrats that are running. Once the names on that list are released to all democrats who are running, it will provide a significant boost to what has been in the past an area where republicans held a strong advantage.

I also have qualms with how the Clinton campaign has been managed. They have hemorrhaged money early one, expecting the race to be over by Feb 5. She ran as a washington monument, in a year where the general populace is about ready to tear washington down in frustration. Politics is not a field of absolute environments, it's an area of constantly changing status quos, if you can't adapt readily and successfully to a constantly changing environment its not a field for you.

Also as a personal not for my generation, why were flocking to Obama's message does have something to do with rhetoric. If you listen to Clinton talk, you'll hear her using the word "fight" almost constantly. It's about fighting the right wing, fighting for this, against that, a constant battle of whats blown up in rhetoric to almost biblical proportions. Obama on the other hand captured my vote when he gave his address to the 2004 Democratic National Convention

"It is that fundamental belief -- It is that fundamental belief: I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper that makes this country work. It’s what allows us to pursue our individual dreams and yet still come together as one American family.
Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us -- the spin masters, the negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of "anything goes." Well, I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America -- there is the United States of America. There is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America -- there’s the United States of America.

The pundits, the pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an "awesome God" in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.

In the end -- In the end -- In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or do we participate in a politics of hope?
I’m not talking about blind optimism here -- the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don’t think about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about something more substantial. It’s the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker’s son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too.

Hope -- Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!
I believe that we have a righteous wind at our backs and that as we stand on the crossroads of history, we can make the right choices, and meet the challenges that face us."

It's a very different style of politics. You might disagree with his politics, but he doesn't ignore conservatives or red republicans as a different group of people. That message, that style of politics is what I think both parties need in this country.


On why I support Obama over McCain. It's mostly based on the issues, I'm not going to pretend I don't have a liberal outlook on certain things. I think Obama is a better candidate to lead the country towards what I envision to be its future, a potential that inspires many younger voters like myself.

I considered voting for McCain over Clinton before he reversed many of his views during the primaries to try and swing himself to right? Is that what he truly believes? I don't know, but I see it as a Washington insiders method putting getting elected before that which he stands for.

Not all of us voting for Obama are blind or ignorant, I would imagine a great many like myself are very actively involved and would support his candidacy regardless of his age, and I look forward with great enthusiasm to casting my first presidential vote for him in the fall.
Thanks. Pretty much what I would have written (except for the first vote part ;)) if I'd had more time and felt more eloquent. :notworthy

[CyFallsMom]

Thanks. I am a Obama supporter. I am tired of the endless insults. Three reasons I would vote for Obama instead of McCain?? He disagreed with invading Iraq. So did I. He is pro choice, McCain is anti choice. He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation). There. Three reasons. Pretty simple and the first two are dealbreakers for me as far as who I will vote for. In 2000 I had more respect for McCain than I do now. The Bush campaign treated him like c**p. He subsequently sold out in order to ensure inheritance of Bush's campaign/fundraising machine IMHO, which is churning away for him. Methinks that his new support of the Bush tax cuts may be wrapped up in it somehow. We all vote for the candidate that we feel most represents our views. Period. End of story. Just because you disagree doesn't make the rest of us idiots. :ninja:

Read the entire thread and NOT just what I write. WE are all entitled to our opinion and I appreciate your input but do not agree just as you do not. Most people I know who are voting for him are doing so because they despise Bush - wrong reason. They need to know that he is a Socialist in wolves clothing. I, frankly, am tired of supporting those who don't want to support themselves...sorry, I work all day and part of my pay already goes to them - that's enough.

I tend to say things that you don't like anyway but that's okay - to each his own. I'm not here to please anyone - just to have some fun and enjoy some good (and often times controversial) conversation

Here are my responses to your reasons:
He disagreed with invading Iraq. - I agree with the reason for the invasion 100% and I support the troops 100%
He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation): They have all tried that - not happening. Crooks are crooks no matter how you dress them up.
He is pro choice: That one I will agree with.

One final comment - if you find me so insulting, please block my name. Then you won't need to worry about when I talk about Oprah or Obama. Sorry, but this post sort of pissed me off too

[katyfan52]

Well if you don't support Obama then just pass this message along to your friends. I'm not the "yall" you refer too. I gave a difference between Obama and McCain. Support your friend by telling us one thing that Obama is going to change.
The party affiliation of the person in the Oval Office??? ;)

[mojotrain]

and about that Teddy Kennedy Endorsment. Might check with Mary Jo Kopechne's mom and dad.

[jtk1519]

ou sucks

[CyFallsMom]

ou sucks


Gosh I couldn't have said that better myself!! LOL

[CKE]

I wasn't blaming the NCAA for my lack of knowledge....

The quote about the NCAA was in reference to us having more conference titles than Texas, which obviously we do. Pay attention more. Doesn't matter if you had 4, we still have more.

Which once again no on argued.....man you just kept digging that hole

[katyfan52]

Read the entire thread and NOT just what I write. WE are all entitled to our opinion and I appreciate your input but do not agree just as you do not. Most people I know who are voting for him are doing so because they despise Bush - wrong reason. They need to know that he is a Socialist in wolves clothing. I, frankly, am tired of supporting those who don't want to support themselves...sorry, I work all day and part of my pay already goes to them - that's enough.

I tend to say things that you don't like anyway but that's okay - to each his own. I'm not here to please anyone - just to have some fun and enjoy some good (and often times controversial) conversation

Here are my responses to your reasons:
He disagreed with invading Iraq. - I agree with the reason for the invasion 100% and I support the troops 100%
He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation): They have all tried that - not happening. Crooks are crooks no matter how you dress them up.
He is pro choice: That one I will agree with.

One final comment - if you find me so insulting, please block my name. Then you won't need to worry about when I talk about Oprah or Obama. Sorry, but this post sort of pissed me off too

I did read the whole thread. Your post contained more insulting name calling than the rest. You called Obama's supporters "brainwashed followers" and "Obamalamadingdongs" and you're pissed off at me for saying I felt insulted?? I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, but object to the name calling. I don't know how Oprah got into it, and I don't feel any need to ignore your posts. Some of them I find quite entertaining. All I did was respond. I didn't call you names or impugn your intelligence. All I ask is the same in return.

[okt0ber]

One picture of a stupid kid is the best you guys can come up with? Too bad you guys can't issue absolute beatdowns like these:

2000: OU 63 - TX 14
2003: OU 65 - TX 13

The funny thing is, Texas was actually a top 5 team.

You're still a traitor for going north of the Red River. Of course, that seems to be what a lot of Dallas people do. Good thing the rest of Texas is true Texas and not DFW.

[okt0ber]

Another classy post!

And you spreading the class with a quote again. :cool:

[Dawg Fan]

Thanks. I am a Obama supporter. I am tired of the endless insults. Three reasons I would vote for Obama instead of McCain?? He disagreed with invading Iraq. So did I. He is pro choice, McCain is anti choice. He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation). There. Three reasons. Pretty simple and the first two are dealbreakers for me as far as who I will vote for. In 2000 I had more respect for McCain than I do now. The Bush campaign treated him like c**p. He subsequently sold out in order to ensure inheritance of Bush's campaign/fundraising machine IMHO, which is churning away for him. Methinks that his new support of the Bush tax cuts may be wrapped up in it somehow. We all vote for the candidate that we feel most represents our views. Period. End of story. Just because you disagree doesn't make the rest of us idiots. :ninja:



"Tired of the endless insults" ROTFLMAO!!!!!! if you can't handle the insults I recommend you visit some other touchy feeley forum or get thicker skin. Those so called insults are mild for this place. :rolleyes:

[RedRage00]

Another classy post!

You can stop stalking me already.

[RedRage00]

Well if you don't support Obama then just pass this message along to your friends. I'm not the "yall" you refer too. I gave a difference between Obama and McCain. Support your friend by telling us one thing that Obama is going to change.

Your Depends undergarment?

[slorch]

Thanks. I am a Obama supporter. I am tired of the endless insults. Three reasons I would vote for Obama instead of McCain?? He disagreed with invading Iraq. So did I. He is pro choice, McCain is anti choice. He wants to change how business is done in Washington (as represented by his ethics legislation). There. Three reasons. Pretty simple and the first two are dealbreakers for me as far as who I will vote for. In 2000 I had more respect for McCain than I do now. The Bush campaign treated him like c**p. He subsequently sold out in order to ensure inheritance of Bush's campaign/fundraising machine IMHO, which is churning away for him. Methinks that his new support of the Bush tax cuts may be wrapped up in it somehow. We all vote for the candidate that we feel most represents our views. Period. End of story. Just because you disagree doesn't make the rest of us idiots. :ninja:

McCain is not anti choice. He, like many of us, simply believes the choice was made prior to conception...

Now carry on...

[okt0ber]

Your Depends undergarment?

Alright, cool it.

[slorch]

"Tired of the endless insults" ROTFLMAO!!!!!! if you can't handle the insults I recommend you visit some other touchy feeley forum or get thicker skin. Those so called insults are mild for this place. :rolleyes:

just let someone talk about my alma mater...:mad::Censor:

[DragonWatcher]

Again I would like to see a response from mojotrain etc to my post. You can't complain for 7 pages then when someone actually calls you out pretend it doesn't exist.

[RedRage00]

McCain is not anti choice. He, like many of us, simply believes the choice was made prior to conception...

Now carry on...

I'm pro-choice. Now, that doesn't mean I'd want the person I got pregnant to have an abortion (just imagine and follow me lol...you know it wont happen lol)......but that doesn't mean I'm going to butt into my neighbors life. If my neighbor wants to do it then who am I to tell her how to live her life? That should be her choice, not anyone elses.

[okt0ber]

McCain is not anti choice. He, like many of us, simply believes the choice was made prior to conception...

Now carry on...

Oh no no, this isn't something I'm going to let go, because that hits close to home. My little sister was drugged and raped by 3 guys in one night, which resulted in pregnancy. DO NOT come on here and start preaching about it bring a choice prior to, because that is bullsh*t.

She kept it, btw, because my family has the means to support another life. But there is no reason to bring life into this country when that life can't be properly supported and under those circumstances.

And what about AIDS crack babies? AIDS babies? There are A LOT of MEDICAL and CIRCUMSTANTIAL reasons for having choice.

Oh, and btw, the police department botched the investigation and they got off with nothing.

[RedRage00]

Alright, cool it.

Thanks dad :cool:

[okt0ber]

Thanks dad :cool:

You know who's your daddy.:eek:

[RedRage00]

Yes they are!

Then why can't you find a better conservative than McCain?

[the_phoenix612]

I think it is more of a 2012 set-up than anything. Because she's stuck with the race, she'll be able to play the "I told you so" card and have the Democrats who switched allegiances groveling at her feet if McCain wins.

She will be able to play the same card if Obama wins and then fails as president, and then we'll be blessed with more stories of how she dodged Serbian sniper fire as First Lady.

Hillary is one power hungry vieja, and that is what scares me the most about her. She's displayed every reason she'd fail miserably as president in her campaign. I think she lost the democratic nomination after South Carolina and the Billary controversy. She's been on a "save face" mission ever since, and partially succeeded thanks to some small morale boosting wins and Jeremiah Wright.

Hillary lost when she decided that she would have won by super tuesday and didnt set any organizations up in the later states.

[the_phoenix612]

I don't really think T-long is doing himself or Obama a favor by arguing the way he is so I'm gonna take a different approach in this and answer what some of you are clamoring for.

First I'm only arguing first why I support Obama as opposed to Clinton, it should be noted that I am a moderate democrat, I generally support liberal social policies but am for more conservative economic control, if there were a true libertarian candidate running that had a shot in hell I would probably vote for them, but that won't happen anytime soon.

One reason I am very very worried about Clinton is the rhetoric and method's she uses when in power, especially what happened in her husbands administration. Bill was did not try and worry about congressional support once he was in power, and democrats paid for that in 94 with Gingrich's Contract for America. He thought executive power was enough to enforce his issues, and didn't compromise as much as I would have liked him to. This is one reason why I think the healthcare reform under that administration failed. With Obama's massive fundraising machine, it will provide a significant boost down ticket to all democrats that are running. Once the names on that list are released to all democrats who are running, it will provide a significant boost to what has been in the past an area where republicans held a strong advantage.

I also have qualms with how the Clinton campaign has been managed. They have hemorrhaged money early one, expecting the race to be over by Feb 5. She ran as a washington monument, in a year where the general populace is about ready to tear washington down in frustration. Politics is not a field of absolute environments, it's an area of constantly changing status quos, if you can't adapt readily and successfully to a constantly changing environment its not a field for you.

Also as a personal not for my generation, why were flocking to Obama's message does have something to do with rhetoric. If you listen to Clinton talk, you'll hear her using the word "fight" almost constantly. It's about fighting the right wing, fighting for this, against that, a constant battle of whats blown up in rhetoric to almost biblical proportions. Obama on the other hand captured my vote when he gave his address to the 2004 Democratic National Convention

"It is that fundamental belief -- It is that fundamental belief: I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper that makes this country work. It’s what allows us to pursue our individual dreams and yet still come together as one American family.
Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us -- the spin masters, the negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of "anything goes." Well, I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America -- there is the United States of America. There is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America -- there’s the United States of America.

The pundits, the pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an "awesome God" in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.

In the end -- In the end -- In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or do we participate in a politics of hope?
I’m not talking about blind optimism here -- the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don’t think about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about something more substantial. It’s the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker’s son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too.

Hope -- Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!
I believe that we have a righteous wind at our backs and that as we stand on the crossroads of history, we can make the right choices, and meet the challenges that face us."

It's a very different style of politics. You might disagree with his politics, but he doesn't ignore conservatives or red republicans as a different group of people. That message, that style of politics is what I think both parties need in this country.


On why I support Obama over McCain. It's mostly based on the issues, I'm not going to pretend I don't have a liberal outlook on certain things. I think Obama is a better candidate to lead the country towards what I envision to be its future, a potential that inspires many younger voters like myself.

I considered voting for McCain over Clinton before he reversed many of his views during the primaries to try and swing himself to right? Is that what he truly believes? I don't know, but I see it as a Washington insiders method putting getting elected before that which he stands for.

Not all of us voting for Obama are blind or ignorant, I would imagine a great many like myself are very actively involved and would support his candidacy regardless of his age, and I look forward with great enthusiasm to casting my first presidential vote for him in the fall.

I agree with you on everything except McCain over Clinton.

A monkey would be better than McCain in office.
Plus, it would be cuter.

[LoneRocket]

Hillary lost when she decided that she would have won by super tuesday and didnt set any organizations up in the later states.

Some feel she lost when she had Terry McAuliffe running her campaign, he has never won anything and when he ran the Democratic Party they lost many elections in a big way and he only gave money to certain candidates. I still can not to this day understand why they chose him instead of Maynard Jackson as party leader he had a strong plan to rebuild the party. Howard Dean is using Maynard’s plan to a great degree of success.

[LoneRocket]

Then why can't you find a better conservative than McCain?

Bob Barr is running as a Libertarian.

[yankee]

I agree with you on everything except McCain over Clinton.

A monkey would be better than McCain in office.
Plus, it would be cuter.

perv.

[okt0ber]

Then why can't you find a better conservative than McCain?

I can! I can!!

Sarah Palin, R-Alaska (Governor)

[the_phoenix612]

perv.

do you deny the cute-ness of monkeys?

[okt0ber]

Come on, Who wouldn't vote for her??


http://www.gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_web.jpg

She's in the glasses. She's pretty, her daughters are, son is hot. Plus, she's friggin smart as hell. A true conservative from what I've seen of her...

[yankee]

do you deny the cute-ness of monkeys?

i don't look at them in a sexual manner like you do.

[okt0ber]

Hunters would vote for her, as well as pro-gun people...

http://gov.state.ak.us/images/SarahPalin_Council-Hunt_sm.jpg

[RedRage00]

Come on, Who wouldn't vote for her??


http://www.gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_web.jpg

She's in the glasses. She's pretty, her daughters are, son is hot. Plus, she's friggin smart as hell. A true conservative from what I've seen of her...

the son is gay...there goes her campaign :p

That family just looks like they are hiding some deep dark secrets lol

[LoneRocket]

I can! I can!!

Sarah Palin, R-Alaska (Governor)

It won't work because she will not let you drill for oil in her state.

[the_phoenix612]

i don't look at them in a sexual manner like you do.

If you're referring to humans, then yes.

why do you think im sexually attracted to monkeys????

cute in a non-sexual way......

creep

[okt0ber]

It won't work because she will not let you drill for oil in her state.

Are you kidding? You have to be joking, right????

She was on TV this week BEGGING the Feds to let her tap her reserves. BEGGING them to open up Anwar (sp?) to her....

See for yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jnbiHAMuY

[okt0ber]

Or how about this... This will win for sure..


http://magicstatistics.com/wp-content/pictures/other/McCAIN%2BPalin.jpg

[RedRage00]

Or how about this... This will win for sure..


http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php


I dont see anything.

[okt0ber]

I dont see anything.

Refresh, duh

[RedRage00]

Refresh, duh

It wasn't on there before. duh

[EagleDude73]

i don't look at them in a sexual manner like you do.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FgL2FhJczTE/RkaLCydY8NI/AAAAAAAAAGg/2A7-17z364E/s320/artiz_ayu_sexy1.jpg&imgrefurl

[LoneRocket]

Are you kidding? You have to be joking, right????

She was on TV this week BEGGING the Feds to let her tap her reserves. BEGGING them to open up Anwar (sp?) to her....

See for yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jnbiHAMuY

:D Yes I am, but it seems like she is saying she is suing the FEDS for what could happen see 5:21.

[slorch]

She was on TV this week BEGGING the Feds to tap her reserves.

oh really?:eek::D

[LoneRocket]

Are you kidding? You have to be joking, right????

She was on TV this week BEGGING the Feds to let her tap her reserves. BEGGING them to open up Anwar (sp?) to her....

See for yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jnbiHAMuY

Read your statement carefully.

[okt0ber]

oh really?:eek::D

I mean, "tapped" was a word she was very liberal with. And, she does have 5 kids..... :D

[okt0ber]

:D Yes I am, but it seems like she is saying she is suing the FEDS for what could happen see 5:21.

Well that's the lawsuit. But the point is, she's not an environmentalist.

[yankee]

If you're referring to humans, then yes.

why do you think im sexually attracted to monkeys????

cute in a non-sexual way......

creep

i could tell you inferred it.

[okt0ber]

the son is gay...there goes her campaign :p

That family just looks like they are hiding some deep dark secrets lol

Track Palin, the son, serves in the US Army, enlisted in 2007.

[RedRage00]

Track Palin, the son, serves in the US Army, enlisted in 2007.

ok

cool

[CyFallsMom]

I did read the whole thread. Your post contained more insulting name calling than the rest. You called Obama's supporters "brainwashed followers" and "Obamalamadingdongs" and you're pissed off at me for saying I felt insulted?? I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, but object to the name calling. I don't know how Oprah got into it, and I don't feel any need to ignore your posts. Some of them I find quite entertaining. All I did was respond. I didn't call you names or impugn your intelligence. All I ask is the same in return.

Here's how Oprah got into it. Last time I mentioned Oprah - you were mad and PM'd me because I mentioned she was the leader of the stay at homes. I told you that I do know many stay at homes who work very hard but she is still a huge influence on a lot of them.

Now let's talk about the name calling on the PM's you sent me. Mainly the one where you insulted me by calling me CyFallsDramaMom and said everyone at Katy called me that in the lines at the games. Then you told me to stop talking about the vacations I take because everyone was thinking I was showing off or something. I explained that my vacations were what I do...I don't buy big fancy anything - I go on trips. Because I consider so many people here my "friends" I explained that I share my experiences -if I can't share my trips, then I'm really not sharing at all. I can be insulted on PM's - that's okay.:confused: What you did was insult me directly - all I'm doing is giving my opinion on a generic group of people - not you directly.

I just don't want to feel like someone is looking over my shoulder on a message board. I have the right to my opinion too just as everyone else does and you have the right to disagree. I see Obama supporters a certain way - I won't change that stance. Others may see McCain supporters in a certain light too - but you see, I'm really not a supporter of McCain - I am just ANTI-Obama.

[CyFallsMom]

"Tired of the endless insults" ROTFLMAO!!!!!! if you can't handle the insults I recommend you visit some other touchy feeley forum or get thicker skin. Those so called insults are mild for this place. :rolleyes:

Must be the love fest he has going on:rolleyes:. This thread, especially, is only for the thick of skin!!

[okt0ber]

Here's how Oprah got into it. Last time I mentioned Oprah - you were mad and PM'd me because I mentioned she was the leader of the stay at homes. I told you that I do know many stay at homes who work very hard but she is still a huge influence on a lot of them.

Now let's talk about the name calling on the PM's you sent me. Mainly the one where you insulted me by calling me CyFallsDramaMom and said everyone at Katy called me that in the lines at the games. Then you told me to stop talking about the vacations I take because everyone was thinking I was showing off or something. I explained that my vacations were what I do...I don't buy big fancy anything - I go on trips. Because I consider so many people here my "friends" I explained that I share my experiences -if I can't share my trips, then I'm really not sharing at all. I can be insulted on PM's - that's okay.:confused: What you did was insult me directly - all I'm doing is giving my opinion on a generic group of people - not you directly.

I just don't want to feel like someone is looking over my shoulder on a message board. I have the right to my opinion too just as everyone else does and you have the right to disagree. I see Obama supporters a certain way - I won't change that stance. Others may see McCain supporters in a certain light too - but you see, I'm really not a supporter of McCain - I am just ANTI-Obama.

Now now ladies......:cool:

[the_phoenix612]

Here's how Oprah got into it. Last time I mentioned Oprah - you were mad and PM'd me because I mentioned she was the leader of the stay at homes. I told you that I do know many stay at homes who work very hard but she is still a huge influence on a lot of them.

Now let's talk about the name calling on the PM's you sent me. Mainly the one where you insulted me by calling me CyFallsDramaMom and said everyone at Katy called me that in the lines at the games. Then you told me to stop talking about the vacations I take because everyone was thinking I was showing off or something. I explained that my vacations were what I do...I don't buy big fancy anything - I go on trips. Because I consider so many people here my "friends" I explained that I share my experiences -if I can't share my trips, then I'm really not sharing at all. I can be insulted on PM's - that's okay.:confused: What you did was insult me directly - all I'm doing is giving my opinion on a generic group of people - not you directly.

I just don't want to feel like someone is looking over my shoulder on a message board. I have the right to my opinion too just as everyone else does and you have the right to disagree. I see Obama supporters a certain way - I won't change that stance. Others may see McCain supporters in a certain light too - but you see, I'm really not a supporter of McCain - I am just ANTI-Obama.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2001819576783355739_rs.jpg

:p:D

[CyFallsMom]

OMG - I know you meant that to be mean towards me and all but that is the CUTEST kitty cat!!:).

And I'm not the one crying - it takes a LOT more than a message board to make me cry. I have to at least see Lassie stuck in the Railroad trestle or something:)

[RedRage00]

Here's how Oprah got into it. Last time I mentioned Oprah - you were mad and PM'd me because I mentioned she was the leader of the stay at homes. I told you that I do know many stay at homes who work very hard but she is still a huge influence on a lot of them.

Now let's talk about the name calling on the PM's you sent me. Mainly the one where you insulted me by calling me CyFallsDramaMom and said everyone at Katy called me that in the lines at the games. Then you told me to stop talking about the vacations I take because everyone was thinking I was showing off or something. I explained that my vacations were what I do...I don't buy big fancy anything - I go on trips. Because I consider so many people here my "friends" I explained that I share my experiences -if I can't share my trips, then I'm really not sharing at all. I can be insulted on PM's - that's okay.:confused: What you did was insult me directly - all I'm doing is giving my opinion on a generic group of people - not you directly.

I just don't want to feel like someone is looking over my shoulder on a message board. I have the right to my opinion too just as everyone else does and you have the right to disagree. I see Obama supporters a certain way - I won't change that stance. Others may see McCain supporters in a certain light too - but you see, I'm really not a supporter of McCain - I am just ANTI-Obama.


:laugh

[CyFallsMom]

Funny RR!!! It really did bother me at the time but the Katy folks were very nice after I apologized for being down on Katy last year - that's all ancient history though. But I don't think "every" one of them were calling me that;)

[mojotrain]

Again I would like to see a response from mojotrain etc to my post. You can't complain for 7 pages then when someone actually calls you out pretend it doesn't exist.

If you directed a post to me I missed it. What #was it. You know I usually respond.

[rwilleby]

Ha! That's the first I heard of it... I think I like it... CyFallsDramaMom... Kinda has a catch to it!

[CyFallsMom]

Ha! That's the first I heard of it... I think I like it... CyFallsDramaMom... Kinda has a catch to it!

You are bad!! If that's the case, I have to change it to CyFallsDramaMama - sounds better:rolleyes:. I knew it wasn't every one of y'all who said that but it still made me feel bad nonetheless. And if my posts were getting that much attention (which I'm pretty sure they weren't) then I need to go to Washington DC and cover the election for the New York Times or possibly the London Sun. That last one is my son's fave - on the second page, every day, they have a picture of a naked model...and the Brits are such prudes otherwise!! LOL

[DragonWatcher]

If you directed a post to me I missed it. What #was it. You know I usually respond.

Its page 7 like post 134 I think.

[mojotrain]

Then why can't you find a better conservative than McCain?

The conservatives (voters) are still just as conservative as always. Their last cantidate was Barry Goldwater. Everyone else shifted left left in the last eight years. The moderate(not conserative) republicans took the positions of the democrats of the fiftys and sixties and nominated McCain. The moderate democrats shifted more to socialism and nominated Hillery. Then of course those who at one time were considered just liberals to the ways of communism. Don't worry though the shifting I talked of is not a permanent thing.

[mojotrain]

Its page 7 like post 134 I think.

Ok I'll read it tonight and comment tommorrow. It's after one AM.

[mojotrain]

Its page 7 like post 134 I think.

I don't think I'll dicuss it point by point. I'll give you what I want from the goverment and you can deduct all points you might have from there.

I believe I should pay federal tax for the following.

For support of the biggest, meanest military in the world. Without it nothing else matters.

For the building of highways. For trade.

Thats it for federal tax. The tax system, by the way is wrong. You should pay a tax on goods purchased only. Excluding health care and food.

I think familys should take care of their own. When familys fail then churchs should take care of those who can't. If I'm to be my brothers keeper then I perfer it to be distrubeted through a church. The proverb that it takes a village to raise a child IMO is a bunch of junk. It dosen't! It takes a mom and dad.

Thats all, use it as you wish in reference to your post.

[katyfan52]

"Tired of the endless insults" ROTFLMAO!!!!!! if you can't handle the insults I recommend you visit some other touchy feeley forum or get thicker skin. Those so called insults are mild for this place. :rolleyes:
I can handle them just fine. I do it every day. I'm a Democrat living in a small town in Texas. You don't get to be as old as I am under those circumstances without ignoring a few insults. ;) Would it be better if I just returned them in kind??? Believe me there's plenty of fuel for that fire, :rolleyes: but I think I'll pass. History will take care of most of it anyway.

[katyfan52]

So, operation Chaos did just what it was supposed to do.. Muddy up the water at the Dem's camp and get them fighting within their ranks... Did Rush actually say it was over and time to move on to phase II?

On the race, as in Presidential, I don't get the Obama frenzy, understand the Hillary hating and would rather have another choice than McCain...

If you want to be truthful about it... Obama is getting the nomination because he is black... Hillary is not because she is corrupt... and McCain has because the Dem's ganged up in the early primaries and picked our candidate for us...

In a respectful way, before this thread gets locked, where am I wrong...
RW, how could anybody be anything but respectful to you. I don't know if I agree that Obama got it just because he is black. I don't think the demographics support that. A lot of whites supported him too. I do agree that Hillary didn't get it because she is corrupt, and if he picks her as a running mate, I will think less of him and his message. I didn't know the Dems crossed over to the Repub primaries, but I can honestly say I might not have been paying attention. I saw some of the reverse here in our own little town :eek: (that is said with the utmost love for those involved). I don't think the thread will get locked. I think everyone can play nice. ;)

[rwilleby]

RW, how could anybody be anything but respectful to you. I don't know if I agree that Obama got it just because he is black. I don't think the demographics support that. A lot of whites supported him too. I do agree that Hillary didn't get it because she is corrupt, and if he picks her as a running mate, I will think less of him and his message. I didn't know the Dems crossed over to the Repub primaries, but I can honestly say I might not have been paying attention. I saw some of the reverse here in our own little town :eek: (that is said with the utmost love for those involved). I don't think the thread will get locked. I think everyone can play nice. ;)

You're right about the Obama supporters, his support is mixed... And I didn't give him enough credit for the campaign he's had this far... But, race does play a factor in this election as evidence of the percentage of black voters who have moved over from the Clinton camp, lock step... It's all of the back-stories about Obama that bother me... Who is he, what does he stand for, who's the guy underneath the flash and show, just how far left to socialism will he take the country?

McCain, boy he's a tool...

I don't think we have a good choice...

[CyFallsMom]

Now let's talk about the name calling on the PM's you sent me. Mainly the one where you insulted me by calling me CyFallsDramaMom and said everyone at Katy called me that in the lines at the games. Then you told me to stop talking about the vacations I take because everyone was thinking I was showing off or something. I explained that my vacations were what I do...I don't buy big fancy anything - I go on trips. Because I consider so many people here my "friends" I explained that I share my experiences -if I can't share my trips, then I'm really not sharing at all. I can be insulted on PM's - that's okay.:confused: What you did was insult me directly - all I'm doing is giving my opinion on a generic group of people - not you directly.

Regarding this post that I made yesterday...if I could blame it on tequila or even crack cocaine I would but, since I do not partake in either, I will blame it on momentary idiocy or stupidity as well as not paying closer attention to my PM's.

Katyfan52 - I am SO sorry - it was not you who sent the Drama Mom PM at all and I apologize for being so nasty in that post. I was angry that I was being accused of insulting you personally and, in thinking back to that PM from earlier this year and then thinking it was you, I just took off with it. I confused you with another Katy fan and for that I am truly angry with myself. I wanted to make sure this apology was here and not on a PM because I feel that I embarrassed you in that post - even though it wasn't you at all. I am a bigger person than that and that is the reason I should step away from the keyboard when I'm angry and go drink a double cappuccino pronto:o.

No as for Obama, I still don't like him:cool:. I don't really like any of them - I wish we could start from scratch and go through a draft or something and get new players;)

[RedRage00]

Regarding this post that I made yesterday...if I could blame it on tequila or even crack cocaine I would but, since I do not partake in either, I will blame it on momentary idiocy or stupidity as well as not paying closer attention to my PM's.

Katyfan52 - I am SO sorry - it was not you who sent the Drama Mom PM at all and I apologize for being so nasty in that post. I was angry that I was being accused of insulting you personally and, in thinking back to that PM from earlier this year and then thinking it was you, I just took off with it. I confused you with another Katy fan and for that I am truly angry with myself. I wanted to make sure this apology was here and not on a PM because I feel that I embarrassed you in that post - even though it wasn't you at all. I am a bigger person than that and that is the reason I should step away from the keyboard when I'm angry and go drink a double cappuccino pronto:o.

No as for Obama, I still don't like him:cool:. I don't really like any of them - I wish we could start from scratch and go through a draft or something and get new players;)

DRAMA!!!! Now I see where you get your name ;) :D

[CyFallsMom]

DRAMA!!!! Now I see where you get your name ;) :D


The thing is, I really am not dramatic! I get easily pissed when defending those I love and care about or when defending my opinion and I sometimes get wound up about things. But drama queen I am not. Quite the opposite. I tend to laugh about most things and feel I have a very good sense of humor unless the above takes place. I would rather be in the wings watching the drama than be in it. But I have principles and opinions too just as others do and will defend them like a junk yard dog who hasn't eaten for 3 days;). That previous post of mine was just an error in judgement due to my lack of thorough research:)

[Dawg Fan]

The thing is, I really am not dramatic! I get easily pissed when defending those I love and care about or when defending my opinion and I sometimes get wound up about things. But drama queen I am not. Quite the opposite. I tend to laugh about most things and feel I have a very good sense of humor unless the above takes place. I would rather be in the wings watching the drama than be in it. But I have principles and opinions too just as others do and will defend them like a junk yard dog who hasn't eaten for 3 days;). That previous post of mine was just an error in judgement due to my lack of thorough research:)

Don't sweat it, most on here aren't mature enough to apologize when they are wrong;)

[CyFallsMom]

Don't sweat it, most on here aren't mature enough to apologize when they are wrong;)

I do when I know I'm wrong;)...and I'm so glad she brought that to my attention otherwise I never would have known that I had accused someone of something they didn't do. I have no problem with apologies but I have to mean them from the bottom of my heart or they are just meaningless.

[RedRage00]

Don't sweat it, most on here aren't mature enough to apologize when they are wrong;)

I've apologized in threads ;)

[RedRage00]

I do when I know I'm wrong;)...and I'm so glad she brought that to my attention otherwise I never would have known that I had accused someone of something they didn't do. I have no problem with apologies but I have to mean them from the bottom of my heart or they are just meaningless.

You have to be careful with Katy people because there are so many on here with similar names....lol

[CyFallsMom]

You have to be careful with Katy people because there are so many on here with similar names....lol

LOL - Normally I would think that too but these two names were as different as they could be...I just didn't take the time to separate them.

[rwilleby]

I've apologized for CyFallsMom too!

[shslb15]

Well that's the lawsuit. But the point is, she's not an environmentalist.

Good!

[CyFallsMom]

I've apologized for CyFallsMom too!

"for"?? Just wondering why you would apologize "for" me? I am just curious :confused:

[rwilleby]

Didn't you show up for a pre game meal and your van was painted in green and not red? That would be the time! :)

[shslb15]

I don't think I'll dicuss it point by point. I'll give you what I want from the goverment and you can deduct all points you might have from there.

I believe I should pay federal tax for the following.

For support of the biggest, meanest military in the world. Without it nothing else matters.

For the building of highways. For trade.

Thats it for federal tax. The tax system, by the way is wrong. You should pay a tax on goods purchased only. Excluding health care and food.

I think familys should take care of their own. When familys fail then churchs should take care of those who can't. If I'm to be my brothers keeper then I perfer it to be distrubeted through a church. The proverb that it takes a village to raise a child IMO is a bunch of junk. It dosen't! It takes a mom and dad.

Thats all, use it as you wish in reference to your post.

EXACTLY!! It all started coming to an end with the "Great Soceity". I take that back I truely believe that it started coming to an end with the Anti-trust laws but eh, now the new form of those laws are the environmental laws that are taxing and limiting our businesses. The environmental movement is much like a watermelon, A thin layer of green on the outside but REALLY RED on the inside.

[RedRage00]

Didn't you show up for a pre game meal and your van was painted in green and not red? That would be the time! :)

:notworthy

[katyfan52]

LOL - Normally I would think that too but these two names were as different as they could be...I just didn't take the time to separate them.

Thank you for the apology. I hope we can continue to get along. Katyfan52 does not = mean, even though we may disagree at times. :)

[CyFallsMom]

Didn't you show up for a pre game meal and your van was painted in green and not red? That would be the time!

Oh, okay, that would be THREE times you had to apologize then - Sylvia's when I was invited to partake in the pre-game meal with the Katy folks - and Kitty and Pup tried to change my car decorations to red;). Then the breakfasts at Snappy's (YUM) that you and KTFiend so nicely treated us to before the state semi-final and the state game on our way to San Antonio. At least one of those, my car wasn't decorated until after we ate:D. I also remember parking as far away from the red cars as possible so as not to cause you all to rip me a new one:p. Those apologies "for" me are okay because I was in attendance to begin with and those were fun times too!

[the_phoenix612]

OMG - I know you meant that to be mean towards me and all but that is the CUTEST kitty cat!!:).

And I'm not the one crying - it takes a LOT more than a message board to make me cry. I have to at least see Lassie stuck in the Railroad trestle or something:)

wasn't supposed to be mean....
just funny :)

[shslb15]

Can't we all just get along.... LEAVE CYFALLSMOM ALONE, LEAVE HER ALONE!!!! :D (hopefully someone has seen that youtube video)........... Then why is it attached to your rod motha licka... Ever drink baileys from a shoe, ever gone to a party where people wee on eachother?