Toughest Overall 2008 Schedule????

[alleneagle4]

Allen's:

0: Longview
1: Monterrey Tech (Prepa Tec), Mexico
2: Rockwall
3: Euless Trinity
4: Plano West
5: Bye
6: McKinney Boyd
7: Plano
8: Dallas Jesuit
9: Plano East
10: Wylie

lets summarize......

-longview! they're almost always great
-monterrey tech!!! which is the SLC of Mexico, number one team in Mexico (don't underestimate them)
-Rockwall, who is very underrated and good every year
-ET!!! (enough said),
-Plano West is gonna be good
-McKinney Boyd......one of the best in 4A last year!
-Plano....enough said


so if you honestly think your team has a tougher schedule.....please tell
:cool:

[Dynastybegan86]

Katy Tigers

GP Northshore Top 3
The Woodlands Top 10
Lewisville Marcus(Flower Mound) #15
Beaumont Westbrook #25
Cypress Bay, Florida (trumps any team from Mexico) Top 10, in Florida.
Morton Ranch
Seven Lakes
James Taylor
Mayde Creek
Cinco Ranch


I think it will be one of the toughest, similar to yours.

[dada]

I would say North Shore and Katy has two of the toughest schedules in the state.

[dada]

Allen's:

0: Longview
1: Monterrey Tech (Prepa Tec), Mexico
2: Rockwall
3: Euless Trinity
4: Plano West
5: Bye
6: McKinney Boyd
7: Plano
8: Dallas Jesuit
9: Plano East
10: Wylie

lets summarize......

-longview! they're almost always great
-monterrey tech!!! which is the SLC of Mexico, number one team in Mexico (don't underestimate them)
-Rockwall, who is very underrated and good every year
-ET!!! (enough said),
-Plano West is gonna be good
-McKinney Boyd......one of the best in 4A last year!
-Plano....enough said


so if you honestly think your team has a tougher schedule.....please tell
:cool:

SLC of Mexico???? MEXICO??????? Mexico!....we talking about MEXICO? Not New Mexico, but Mexico?.....you have to watch those football powers in Mexico.

[Magellan]

Katy, Carroll, and North Shore are my top-3 schedules. NS and Katy may have easier district slates than AHS, but they're going through an utter grinder of a non-district calendar.

[Favpack]

The Woodz historically has the toughest. I like tough schedules, but no the toughest. Season is too long to kill yourself the first month.

[dada]

Katy, Carroll, and North Shore are my top-3 schedules. NS and Katy may have easier district slates than AHS, but they're going through an utter grinder of a non-district calendar.

Katy and North Shore's non district schedule could be tougher than their playoff runs.

[Magellan]

SLC of Mexico???? MEXICO??????? Mexico!....we talking about MEXICO? Not New Mexico, but Mexico?.....you have to watch those football powers in Mexico.

Mexico? Mexico? We're talkin' 'bout Mexico?

[dada]

Mexico? Mexico? We're talkin' 'bout Mexico?

Mexico????

[RedRage00]

LMAO! Yall are special...Mexico has what? 2 teams LOL

And we are not talking futbol either.

[Eagle81]

1: Monterrey Tech (Prepa Tec), Mexico-monterrey tech!!! which is the SLC of Mexico, number one team in Mexico (don't underestimate them)

Kinda like the #1 team in Canada that played Berkner a few years back. Berkner's only win of the season and was like 55-7 blowout. Sidenote:
I believe the boys in Canada have been playing football a little longer than the boys in Mexico.

Allen may consider suiting up the sophomore team for this one.

[dragonpants]

Katy, Carroll, and North Shore are my top-3 schedules. NS and Katy may have easier district slates than AHS, but they're going through an utter grinder of a non-district calendar.

Allens it pretty rough even with the Mexico game. I applaud them for their non district schedule of Longview and Trinity. Katy's is tough also but Marcus is highly overrated and I think Katy will blow them out. They have a good coaching staff but it is going to take longer than two seasons to move them into the same class as Katy.

[TrojanHorse03]

IMO Trinity definitely has one of the toughest schedules which include national power and 22 time state champion John Curtis, @ Cedar Hill, @ Allen, Colleyville Heritage, @ Grapevine and no true home games till the start of district play.

[dada]

Allens it pretty rough even with the Mexico game. I applaud them for their non district schedule of Longview Trinity. Katy's is tough also but Marcus is highly overrated and I think Katy will blow them out. They have a good coaching staff but it is going to take longer than two seasons to move them into the same class as Katy.

I hope you're right about Marcus.....atleast Katy has a week to recover after North Shore and the Woodlands.

[Dynastybegan86]

Katy and North Shore's non district schedule could be tougher than their playoff runs.

:eek::eek: but true!

[scottie2]

Allen's:



0: Longview
1: Monterrey Tech (Prepa Tec), Mexico
2: Rockwall
3: Euless Trinity
4: Plano West
5: Bye
6: McKinney Boyd
7: Plano
8: Dallas Jesuit
9: Plano East
10: Wylie

lets summarize......

-longview! they're almost always great
-monterrey tech!!! which is the SLC of Mexico, number one team in Mexico (don't underestimate them)
-Rockwall, who is very underrated and good every year
-ET!!! (enough said),
-Plano West is gonna be good
-McKinney Boyd......one of the best in 4A last year!
-Plano....enough said


so if you honestly think your team has a tougher schedule.....please tell
:cool:

I think Jesuit played Monerrey Tech a couple of years ago before they sued their way into the UIL . If Jesuit beat them handily you should not have any problem with them. They are very weak

[trojanbacker]

Altlhough I think Trinity's non-district is pretty salty (John Curtis, Allen, Cedar Hill), I wouldn't include their overall schedule among the toughest. No disrespect to Colleyville, Grapevine or the Keller schools.....oh, and Bell, but there are several other schools out there with tougher overall schedules, IMO.

[TrojanHorse03]

Altlhough I think Trinity's non-district is pretty salty (John Curtis, Allen, Cedar Hill), I wouldn't include their overall schedule among the toughest. No disrespect to Colleyville, Grapevine or the Keller schools.....oh, and Bell, but there are several other schools out there with tougher overall schedules, IMO.

Yeah North Shore and Katy but after that? Just me personally I'd put Trinity's schedule next. We took this district pretty lightly last time we were in it(2002-2003) and they played us well some times (despite them not taking any games from us), and have only gotten better since then.

[alleneagle4]

.....okay, okay for all I know, mexico may not be as big of a deal as what ive been hearing from teams and coaches that have played them but....

I have NOT seen any game footage of them yet, but supposedly they're really big, really fast, and know how to play football better than you would think

guess we'll just have to wait and see, but either way, its gonna be a fun game:D

[tjw]

Only thing I saw is they beat the best Oklahoma had last year and have over 96,000 (yes that is 96,000) students to choose from. Guess we see what this Mexico team is all about.

[alleneagle4]

Only thing I saw is they beat the best Oklahoma had last year and have over 96,000 (yes that is 96,000) students to choose from. Guess we see what this Mexico team is all about.

wow! i didnt hear they beat the best oklah had.... but theyve also beaten tons of texas teams down in the valley


heres a great article about them:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/why-we-compete/2007/10/community.html

theyve never played a team nearly as good or school as big as allen.....just imagine how freaked out our band is gonna make em!

[dada]

Only thing I saw is they beat the best Oklahoma had last year and have over 96,000 (yes that is 96,000) students to choose from. Guess we see what this Mexico team is all about.

Ranging from the age of 17 to 25.:D

[RangerFan]

Jesuit, with a 4A enrollment, has a very challenging schedule:

Bishop Lynch TAPPS playoff team in 2007
Coppell
Hebron 5A playoff team
South Garland 5A playoff team
Plano 5A playoff team
Allen 5A playoff team
Plano West 5A playoff team
Wylie 5A playoff team
Plano East
McKinney Boyd 4A playoff team

All but two of the schools made the playoffs. Four of the largest schools in the state are on the schedule. Every team in the district except Plano East made the playoffs in 2007. This is by far Jesuit's toughest schedule, with Plano, Allen, Hebron, Plano West, and Wylie probably the toughest opponents. Even the Jesuit-Lynch game, which will be played at SMU, will be an exciting rivalry game. Jesuit has dominated lately, but Lynch hates Jesuit and always gives the Rangers their best effort.

[LPack007]

Ranging from the age of 17 to 25.:D

Lmaoooo!!

[NBC_43]

Whew! Allen's got it rough!
I still think Euless Trinity can go 10-0 though

[CyFallsMom]

I have to agree with Katy and North Shore - their preseason schedule anyway. Those schedules are intimidating:eek:. AND they have each other on their schedule!

[WOS87]

wow! i didnt hear they beat the best oklah had.... but theyve also beaten tons of texas teams down in the valley

theyve never played a team nearly as good or school as big as allen.....just imagine how freaked out our band is gonna make em!

Is this the same team that got demolished by a South Texas 2A team Cotulla last season 33-12??

Click here--->Cotulla 33, Monterrey 12 (Box Score) (http://www.sagametime.com/web/district.html?site=default&tpl=dashboard_web&Sport=1&tpl=Boxscore&ID=982)

[dada]

Is this the same team that got demolished by a South Texas 2A team Cotulla last season 33-12??

Click here--->Cotulla 33, Monterrey 12 (Box Score) (http://www.sagametime.com/web/district.html?site=default&tpl=dashboard_web&Sport=1&tpl=Boxscore&ID=982)

You mean...they couldnt find someone to kick an extra point?????? WTF???:D I guess the "grap a kid from soccer" rule only works in America.

[jbusch]

Jesuit, with a 4A enrollment, has a very challenging schedule:

Bishop Lynch TAPPS playoff team in 2007
Coppell
Hebron 5A playoff team
South Garland 5A playoff team
Plano 5A playoff team
Allen 5A playoff team
Plano West 5A playoff team
Wylie 5A playoff team
Plano East
McKinney Boyd 4A playoff team

All but two of the schools made the playoffs. Four of the largest schools in the state are on the schedule. Every team in the district except Plano East made the playoffs in 2007. This is by far Jesuit's toughest schedule, with Plano, Allen, Hebron, Plano West, and Wylie probably the toughest opponents. Even the Jesuit-Lynch game, which will be played at SMU, will be an exciting rivalry game. Jesuit has dominated lately, but Lynch hates Jesuit and always gives the Rangers their best effort. Class 5A Team, Class 4A Enrollment, Class 3A Stadium, Class 10A Whiners,

PS. I used to like you guys - but familiararity (sp?) breeds contempt

[shslb15]

Preseason Katy has a pretty brutal schedule with north shore and while it isn't miami northwestern or neese its still a top team from florida.. after that though. They play Cinco in district but other than that all of the other games are pretty easy. Allen, ARE YOU KIDDING!?!?! :eek: THE SLC OF MEXICO... I'd be willing to match a 6 man team from texas against a full team from Mexico and I'd bet the 6 man team would still win. The rest of the schedule is pretty rough... but MEXICO! you make me laugh... mexico haha...

[Plano West Wolf]

In non-district, Plano West plays SLC (always elite), Flower Mound Marcus (I think they're a bit overrated, but they're still good), Naaman Forest (have the best RB in DFW) and North Crowley (the only guaranteed win of our non-district game, but even then, it IS possible to lose to anyone). Plus we play in the district with Plano and Allen. Pretty tough schedule, but I'm fairly confident with how things will work out. :D

[alleneagle4]

i'm gonna laugh when all of ya'll see how huge and fast they are, just cause they're from mexico doesn't mean they suck....... they play football down there just like we do in america

now, whether or not they're any good at playing it......thats a different story

[Dynastybegan86]

i'm gonna laugh when all of ya'll see how huge and fast they are, just cause they're from mexico doesn't mean they suck....... they play football down there just like we do in america

now, whether or not they're any good at playing it......thats a different story

I do believe you are talking out of both sides of your ... mouth.

[dada]

i'm gonna laugh when all of ya'll see how huge and fast they are, just cause they're from mexico doesn't mean they suck....... they play football down there just like we do in america

now, whether or not they're any good at playing it......thats a different story

Not as hard as we're gonna laugh if you guys lose to them:D

[maxtor]

i'm gonna laugh when all of ya'll see how huge and fast they are, just cause they're from mexico doesn't mean they suck....... they play football down there just like we do in america

now, whether or not they're any good at playing it......thats a different story

If Prepa Tec only beat McAllen 19-0 then Allen should win I would think.

McAllen?:rolleyes:

[HebronHawk]

Hebron's Schedule

Wylie
Mesquite
Plano #2
Dallas Jesuit
Abilene Cooper
Flower Mound
Coppell
Lewisville
SLC #5
FM Marcus #15

[Dynastybegan86]

Only thing I saw is they beat the best Oklahoma had last year and have over 96,000 (yes that is 96,000) students to choose from. Guess we see what this Mexico team is all about.

Which Mobilhoma school are you considering "the best they have to offer"?

Midwest City
Tulsa Union
Jenks
Weatherford
Clinton
Tuttle
Just naming a few???

[BandidoNB]

Monterrey Tech has a high school (Prepa Tec) and the university. So its a common misconception that there will be 20-25 year olds out on the field for the Borregos when a Texas team plays Monterrey Tech. But your only playing the high school.

[alleneagle4]

well obviously

and thats why its so big because its got the university too

but either way, we're gonna own

[Squirrel88]

I have to agree with Katy and North Shore - their preseason schedule anyway. Those schedules are intimidating:eek:. AND they have each other on their schedule!

I cannot wait to see Katy and NS scrap it out! :eek:

[GOBIGIKE#1]

I cannot wait to see Katy and NS scrap it out! :eek:

The North Shore versus Aldine Eisenhower game won't be too shabby either! #8 vs. #13, what a match up!

GOBIGIKE#1
THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!
WE ARE BIG IKE!

[tjw]

Which Mobilhoma school are you considering "the best they have to offer"?

Midwest City
Tulsa Union
Jenks
Weatherford
Clinton
Tuttle
Just naming a few???

Was just going by an article I read in the Star newspapers...not sure who they were talking about???:)

[GOBIGIKE#1]

Both Katy and North Shore have awesome schedules! They will have some great matchups. However, I think IKE has some opponents that would rank us close to one of the more difficult schedules. The IKE Eagles will be going up against the following top Texas high school football teams along with their 5A Texas Football's pre-season state rankings:

North Shore #8
Fort Bend Hightower #12
Humble #21 (District Opponent)
Beaumont West Brook #25

GOBIGIKE#1
THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!
WE ARE BIG IKE!

[Squirrel88]

The North Shore versus Aldine Eisenhower game won't be too shabby either! #8 vs. #13, what a match up!

GOBIGIKE#1
THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!
WE ARE BIG IKE!

The only thing wrong with IKE, in the past, has been the coaching. They have had some great athelates going through there. That and if you can get IKE down and on the ropes, they just kind of give up. I wish IKE well this year... all expecpt the NS game!

[tjw]

Looking at the schedules and using the guide here it looks like this to me for toughest schedule:
Trinity - 4 key games
Plano - 7 key games (3 not even ranked?)
Judson - 6 key games (4 not ranked?)
Allen - 6 key games (added Plano West since listed for Plano?)
SLC - 4 key games (1 not ranked?)
Spring Westfield - 5 key games (most not ranked?)
Skyline - 3 key games (2 not ranked?)
North Shore - 5 key games (2 not ranked?)
Abilene - 3 key games (none ranked?)
Bowie - 4 key games (none ranked?)
Lufkin - 5 key games (none ranked?)
FB Hightower - 3 key games (2 not ranked?)
Ald. Eisenhower - 4 key games (2 not ranked?)
Katy - 4 key games (2 not ranked?)
FM Marcus - 6 key games (3 not ranked?)

All said and done you may be correct.

[GOBIGIKE#1]

The only thing wrong with IKE, in the past, has been the coaching. They have had some great athelates going through there. That and if you can get IKE down and on the ropes, they just kind of give up. I wish IKE well this year... all expecpt the NS game!

Although your point might be valid for the last 3 to 4 years, Coach Richard Carson, now at Woodlands College Park, had a very good coaching staff in the 90's and early 2000's. BIG IKE certainly did not give up when they beat North Shore 18-3 in 1997, a year when the Mustangs had some great athletes themselves. Nor did IKE give up in 2002 when they played and beat North Shore by a score of 38 to 37 (with Bobby Reid at QB) in the Astrodome, the year before North Shore won state. NS had some pretty good athletes that year too. Except the one championship, I really don't think North Shore has been any more successful than IKE over the last 15 years.

Both programs have had excellent athletes, been very successful, and I believe are very respectful of one another. I truly believe BIG IKE is back this year and will give everyone of their opponents a run for their money. This years game over at our place between your North Shore Mustangs and Aldine Eisenhower Eagles should be a real "slobber knocker". We will see you there! and, I don't think you will see these Eagles giving up.

GOBIGIKE#1
THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!
WE ARE BIG IKE!

[scottie2]

Jesuit, with a 4A enrollment, has a very challenging schedule:

Bishop Lynch TAPPS playoff team in 2007
Coppell
Hebron 5A playoff team
South Garland 5A playoff team
Plano 5A playoff team
Allen 5A playoff team
Plano West 5A playoff team
Wylie 5A playoff team
Plano East
McKinney Boyd 4A playoff team

All but two of the schools made the playoffs. Four of the largest schools in the state are on the schedule. Every team in the district except Plano East made the playoffs in 2007. This is by far Jesuit's toughest schedule, with Plano, Allen, Hebron, Plano West, and Wylie probably the toughest opponents. Even the Jesuit-Lynch game, which will be played at SMU, will be an exciting rivalry game. Jesuit has dominated lately, but Lynch hates Jesuit and always gives the Rangers their best effort.

If you think thay are whining now wait until next year when they don't play all the Irving and Grand Prairie schools.They beat up on Bishop Lynch that has all of 385 boys. Its about time for them to tell us about all of their tremendous student athletes again. By the way someone told me their Alumni are all mad at each other and they have two Alumni Associations both out raising money for athletics .

[RangerFan]

Someone once told me everybody in HP was a rich, racist, snob. I chose not to believe them since I have friends who live in HP. Now, they are rich, but I don't think it is fair to call them all racist and snobby. My guess is you dislike Jesuit. I think you have made that very clear. I am a fan of both schools, but I don't think either one is perfect.

Jesuit plays Lynch because it is the one rivalry game for the Jesuit student-athletes. Since most come from the same area parochial schools, they actually know some of their opponents, which is rarely the case when jesuit plays UIL teams.

Hp played Lynch because Lynch agreed to always play at HP. Hp beat up on them and had an extra home game each season.

[nsmustang]

Although your point might be valid for the last 3 to 4 years, Coach Richard Carson, now at Woodlands College Park, had a very good coaching staff in the 90's and early 2000's. BIG IKE certainly did not give up when they beat North Shore 18-3 in 1997, a year when the Mustangs had some great athletes themselves. Nor did IKE give up in 2002 when they played and beat North Shore by a score of 38 to 37 (with Bobby Reid at QB) in the Astrodome, the year before North Shore won state. NS had some pretty good athletes that year too. Except the one championship, I really don't think North Shore has been any more successful than IKE over the last 15 years.

Both programs have had excellent athletes, been very successful, and I believe are very respectful of one another. I truly believe BIG IKE is back this year and will give everyone of their opponents a run for their money. This years game over at our place between your North Shore Mustangs and Aldine Eisenhower Eagles should be a real "slobber knocker". We will see you there! and, I don't think you will see these Eagles giving up.

GOBIGIKE#1
THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!
WE ARE BIG IKE!

Ike is always a hard nosed game for NS no matter the year. Fumble on the 2 yard line with 30 seconds to go sealed the win for Ike. I'll never forget that one. I've said all along Ike may be the toughest game they have this year as far as head knocking.

[dragonsdaddy]

.....okay, okay for all I know, mexico may not be as big of a deal as what ive been hearing from teams and coaches that have played them but....

I have NOT seen any game footage of them yet, but supposedly they're really big, really fast, and know how to play football better than you would think

guess we'll just have to wait and see, but either way, its gonna be a fun game:D

monty tech is tired of having their winning streaks broken by those powerhouse laredo and rgv teams, so they are going to test the eagles del norte.

[bigdaddydog]

monty tech is tired of having their winning streaks broken by those powerhouse laredo and rgv teams, so they are going to test the eagles del norte.

Let's hope the pollo con arroz is not on the menu. Being a Thursday game it is planned to be televised. I am just not sure if it is FSN or what? If someone was smart they would promote the crap out of this thing and sign a contract with Univision to broadcast it. But then again it's not true "Futbol" so it may not have much draw from that audience.

At least we need some local folks to come and support the BorreGos. There should be at least 250 aluminium bench seats available with a short walk to the baño. :D


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[bigdaddydog]

Is this the same team that got demolished by a South Texas 2A team Cotulla last season 33-12??

Click here--->Cotulla 33, Monterrey 12 (Box Score) (http://www.sagametime.com/web/district.html?site=default&tpl=dashboard_web&Sport=1&tpl=Boxscore&ID=982)

Nope that had to have been a different team. I did not see any matches from the Roster.

Here is an interesting web site for the BorreGos sponsored by the company that donates their uniforms. There is a well done 10 minute video from their 2007 4th consecutive Mexican title season.

Anyone that thinks this team would be a pushover is nuts.

Monterrey Prepa Tech BorreGos (http://www.borregossalvajes.com/inicio/)


~

[farmerfan]

Allens it pretty rough even with the Mexico game. I applaud them for their non district schedule of Longview and Trinity. Katy's is tough also but Marcus is highly overrated and I think Katy will blow them out. They have a good coaching staff but it is going to take longer than two seasons to move them into the same class as Katy.

You base that on what? Theyu have more starters coming back than any other team in the new district, they return the nucleus from the best defense in the entire district a year ago and what will be the best defense in the district this year, they have a very good offensive line and a RB who is not only a hoss but a year older and will get his yards against anybody to go along with very good receivers. Marcus may not beat Katy but they will not get blown out by them either.

[Dynastybegan86]

Was just going by an article I read in the Star newspapers...not sure who they were talking about???:)

Well next time pay closer attention!:D

[Dynastybegan86]

You base that on what? They have more starters coming back than any other team in the new district, they return the nucleus from the best defense in the entire district a year ago and what will be the best defense in the district this year, they have a very good offensive line and a RB who is not only a hoss but a year older and will get his yards against anybody to go along with very good receivers. Marcus may not beat Katy but they will not get blown out by them either.

First, Katy is not in their district, so I am not sure why you bring that up. Second, Katy's Dline will be very hard to run against with the talent returning in these positions.
Third, and I can't believe I am saying this, I agree with you ff:eek: I believe it will be a 10-14 point game, either way!

[farmerfan]

First, Katy is not in their district, so I am not sure why you bring that up. Second, Katy's Dline will be very hard to run against with the talent returning in these positions.
Third, and I can't believe I am saying this, I agree with you ff:eek: I believe it will be a 10-14 point game, either way!

The district comment was meant for Marcus and in regards to the Carroll fan that posted what he did. It wasnt mean to play a relevance into the Katy/Marcus discussion it was more meant to show him that Marcus returns a wealth of talent and will be player sooner than he thinks. Marcus will have the best defense in their district this year and show to those who think they are highly overrated that they are not.
As far as agreeing with me, you will realize when you dont have so much emotion behind a certain team in an argument I'm involved in, that I actually do view things quite objectively :D;)

[Dynastybegan86]

The district comment was meant for Marcus and in regards to the Carroll fan that posted what he did. It wasnt mean to play a relevance into the Katy/Marcus discussion it was more meant to show him that Marcus returns a wealth of talent and will be player sooner than he thinks. Marcus will have the best defense in their district this year and show to those who think they are highly overrated that they are not.
As far as agreeing with me, you will realize when you dont have so much emotion behind a certain team in an argument I'm involved in, that I actually do view things quite objectively :D;)

So you are finally agreeing that Katy would have beaten ET in the mythical 2007 super championship game!!!!:notworthy

I knew you would come around when you started being objective!;):D

[drgnbkr]

You base that on what? Theyu have more starters coming back than any other team in the new district, they return the nucleus from the best defense in the entire district a year ago and what will be the best defense in the district this year, they have a very good offensive line and a RB who is not only a hoss but a year older and will get his yards against anybody to go along with very good receivers. Marcus may not beat Katy but they will not get blown out by them either.

Let's get another one going here FF...I think Carroll will be the best defense in 6-5A. Is that pompous?

[farmerfan]

Let's get another one going here FF...I think Carroll will be the best defense in 6-5A. Is that pompous?

No
Just pure homerism.
Marcus returns more starters from a better defense a year ago, a better secondary, better LB's corp and a defensive line that may not have hte star status of Burnett and Richards but will be very good.
They had better stats against better offenses than what Carroll played a year ago. They return more starters from that defense and are better in the secondary than Carroll is.
Of course I would be interested in what you are basing your homer assumption on. I mean nobody has ever been better than Carroll in anything have they?

[farmerfan]

So you are finally agreeing that Katy would have beaten ET in the mythical 2007 super championship game!!!!:notworthy

I knew you would come around when you started being objective!;):D

Ha.
No I am not.
Nice try though.

[drgnbkr]

No
Just pure homerism.
Marcus returns more starters from a better defense a year ago, a better secondary, better LB's corp and a defensive line that may not have hte star status of Burnett and Richards but will be very good.
They had better stats against better offenses than what Carroll played a year ago. They return more starters from that defense and are better in the secondary than Carroll is.
Of course I would be interested in what you are basing your homer assumption on. I mean nobody has ever been better than Carroll in anything have they?


Dang, now that you mention it....:D You get to have an opinion, the games will bear out what I've said.....

[farmerfan]

Dang, now that you mention it....:D You get to have an opinion, the games will bear out what I've said.....

Lets hear how then.
Tell me how and why Carroll will have the best defense in the district.
Let me know what they have coming back and up that will surpass Marcus. I know about the fine Defensive End and tackle play, but what else is there to the improved unit the Dragons will be fielding this year?

[Fleeman93]

Dang, now that you mention it....:D You get to have an opinion, the games will bear out what I've said.....


Farmer makes a good argument about the defenses. I keep hearing why Carroll's will be good, but why will Carroll's be the best in the district?

[HebronHawk]

Let's get another one going here FF...I think Carroll will be the best defense in 6-5A. Is that pompous?

I think Hebron will have the best defense in 6-5A.

[slcdragonfan]

I don't care WHO has the best defense by stats as long as we have it by wins.:)

[farmerfan]

I don't care WHO has the best defense by stats as long as we have it by wins.:)

Wins are the most important and I think Marcus will surprise those who feel they are overrated and just about everybody with how good their defense is going to be along with having many wins to be proud of.

[farmerfan]

I think Hebron will have the best defense in 6-5A.

Very well could, last year was somewhat of a turnaround for Hebron, doing it with offense more than defense, but anytime Coach Brazil is around you know the defense has that chance to be special.
I do think Hebron will have the best offense in the district. Lots of big play capabilities at the skill position and outstanding line play. I hope you guys have that QB position figured for Plano.

[78 Spartan]

Getting back to toughest schedules:

did anyone mention Beaumont West Brook? They play Westfield, Ike, Katy and North Shore. Yikes.

[SkeetSkeeter]

Getting back to Montorrey Tech:

I played them a couple of years ago as a sophomore at Rockport-Fulton... They are by far the biggest, fastest, dertiest team I've ever played... And I played Plano, PESH, Dallas Carter, North this year.

It wouldn't have been as bad of a beating besides the fact that they brought a bus load of their college players (ages 20-21)

We knew it would happen and called UIL about it, so they had an official check the numbers and names before the game and tell which players could and couldn't play. However, they just changed their numbers on gameday and kicked our aces.

[yeswecanyeswewill]

I dont think anyone has brought up FM Marcus yet

1) Grapevine (Marcus won in comeback thriller one year back)
2) Plano West (very tough opponent, matchup of two top D-Lineman in class of 2010 with Jackson Jeffcoat, who was number one ranked by lone star's top 50 and Daniel Noble who was number 16 in the top 50)
3) Keller Fossil Ridge (noted as a darkhorse team in region 1 with number one ranked receiving core in texas)
4) Katy (defending state champions...nuf said)
5) Tyler Lee (matchup with two of the all-state junior team running backs with Stephen Hopkins, a back thats strong as an ox with great intangibles, and Dada Brown)
6) Lewisville(noted as a darkhorse in region 1 and Battle of the Axe rivalry game played at Texas Stadium)
7) Southlake Carroll (number 5 preseason rank)
8) Coppell (Marcus lost to them in upset, losing the rights as district champs)
9) Flower Mound (rivalry game played at Texas Stadium, Marcus will be looking for first victory in 6 years)
10) Hebron (preseason ranked number 24 with 5th ranked receiving core and lost in fourth round of playoffs to abilene a year ago)

:notworthy

[TheBigPeach]

SLC of Mexico???? MEXICO??????? Mexico!....we talking about MEXICO? Not New Mexico, but Mexico?.....you have to watch those football powers in Mexico.

I bet they have a good kicker and punter.

[82 5A State Champs]

Getting back to toughest schedules:

did anyone mention Beaumont West Brook? They play Westfield, Ike, Katy and North Shore. Yikes.
Nope, as usual......no one mentions WB or gives us much credit. I, however, think we are going to make some folks stand up and take notice next year. We have eight returning starters from an offense that averaged 38 PPG last year, and we've got a new DC in place that hopefully will make our defense that much better. We probably wont win all those BIG games, but I think we'll be able to hold our own.;) Thanks for taking notice, 78 Spartan!

[Magellan]

Nope, as usual......no one mentions WB or gives us much credit. I, however, think we are going to make some folks stand up and take notice next year. We have eight returning starters from an offense that averaged 38 PPG last year, and we've got a new DC in place that hopefully will make our defense that much better. We probably wont win all those BIG games, but I think we'll be able to hold our own.;) Thanks for taking notice, 78 Spartan!

Let's see... a top-25 team that is projected to go 6-4. That should at least put them on the first page of the "Toughest Schedule Open" leaderboard. It'd be nice if they could get that Katy game moved to Cardinal Stadium, because that game will be ROCKIN'- especially if they upset either Ike or Westfield. Katy fans love a road-trip and going to Beaumont is definitely preferable over that Friday night drive to Waco the week before.

[CenTex22]

Yes, but you forget Monterrey Tech can't beat the Valley schools they play half the time. Katy has the toughest non-district schedule in the state in my opinion. I give Southlake Carroll the nod for toughest schedule. Mainly, because their new district is probably the toughest in the state.

[82 5A State Champs]

Let's see... a top-25 team that is projected to go 6-4. That should at least put them on the first page of the "Toughest Schedule Open" leaderboard. It'd be nice if they could get that Katy game moved to Cardinal Stadium, because that game will be ROCKIN'- especially if they upset either Ike or Westfield. Katy fans love a road-trip and going to Beaumont is definitely preferable over that Friday night drive to Waco the week before.
Since Lamar is bringing back it's football program, Cardinal Stadium is being renovated and they no longer want HS games to be played there. I dont know why, because a HS game will surely draw more of a crowd than their Cardinal team would. However, I agree that there will be more room for fans at that stadium than at ours. BTW, who is projecting West Brook to finish 6-4, and why would beating Ike or Westfield be an upset? I certainly think that an 8-2 finish is not unrealistic. We are definitely playing some good teams, but we are certainly capable of winning some of those games. We had the Westfield game won last year, but some questionable calls by the officials at the end cost us the game, IMO. This year, that game will be played at our house.

[nevaplayedk9]

SLC of Mexico???? MEXICO??????? Mexico!....we talking about MEXICO? Not New Mexico, but Mexico?.....you have to watch those football powers in Mexico.

soccer?

[bigdaddydog]

soccer?

Soccer = Fútbol Football = American Football

This is the Top program in all of Mexico, They recruit, they provide scholarships, They have corporate sponsors, I am sure they work hard, and the last thing they want to do is lose to an american team when they come to America and play.

This is not playing for pride of school alone this is pride of country too. I guarantee that anyone that is playing them will not take them lightly. Unless they want to get beat.

This was interesting...

Mexican Haka: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WmNFSenpU0) Performed by the Monterrey Tech, BorreGos College team.

I'm no Haka expert, but this does not seem quite right.


~

[ftballin11]

Nope, as usual......no one mentions WB or gives us much credit. I, however, think we are going to make some folks stand up and take notice next year. We have eight returning starters from an offense that averaged 38 PPG last year, and we've got a new DC in place that hopefully will make our defense that much better. We probably wont win all those BIG games, but I think we'll be able to hold our own.;) Thanks for taking notice, 78 Spartan!


Westbrook has had some good seasons in the past but usualy get thumped in the playoffs. They win the games they are suppose to and lose the ones they are suppose to. They need to thump a team like katy this year or NS to get some respect.

[82 5A State Champs]

Westbrook has had some good seasons in the past but usualy get thumped in the playoffs. They win the games they are suppose to and lose the ones they are suppose to. They need to thump a team like katy this year or NS to get some respect.
You are correct, for the most part. And if it's ever going to happen, IMO, it will happen this year. I would love nothing more than to knock off a Katy or a North Shore, but it will be a tall mountain to climb. I have every bit of respect for those two teams, and rightly deserved. But our program is making great strides every year. We are on the way up!