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Favpack
05-20-2008, 09:33 AM
Ok - it's been 20 years since Boston was competitive - and I'm finally beginning to remember why I hated them so much.

Arrogance and living in the past.

Celtic fan acts like yesterday was 1984 and last week was 1969. Celtic fan can't acknowledge another team is good. RIP Red, but did he ever acknowledge Magic was any good?

This morning on ESPN, Tom Heinsohn actually said this. He said Boston was better than Detroit because Rajon Rondo is better than Chauncy Billups, and that Rondo will give Detroit fits?

Helloooo - is Tommy mistaking Rondo for Tiny Archibald? Yeah, I think so. Rondo wanted nothing to do with Game 7 against Cleveland - horrendous effort. And, Heinsohn acts like its no big deal Boston can't beat Atlanta or Cleveland on the road.

My feel good story for KG, Pierce and Allen is done - I hope the better team - Detroit - proves it emphatically.

stevefoxsc
05-20-2008, 12:45 PM
its really the city in general Boston is just full of arrogant *** holes who think they really are better than everyone i say thank the ny for leveling them. you never hear from Boston fans when they're not winning.

farmerfan
05-20-2008, 01:08 PM
its really the city in general Boston is just full of arrogant *** holes who think they really are better than everyone i say thank the ny for leveling them. you never hear from Boston fans when they're not winning.

Gee and the people from Texas don't think they're better than every other state and aren't full of arrogant people either.
No, couldn't be.
Especially fans of UT and sports and the way they talk down to other teams.

Wait, just about any fanbase is not heard from much when they are not winning.

Get a grip karate chopping steve
and remind me of the last time NY leveled Boston?
If it is due to titles then I guess OU levels Texas in football too don't they :eek:

CyFallsMom
05-20-2008, 01:43 PM
I have two words that make the very thought of the Celtics fry my brain - Danny Ainge. He's right up there with Lenny Dykstra, all of the Utah Jazz and a few others in my book. Eckstein is another one with that same smarmy attitude. Maybe he's gotten better since he left the Cards - haven't seen him much lately to judge.

Favpack
05-20-2008, 03:06 PM
Actually for me it's just the Celts. I can't stand the Pats, but it's a different issue. I'm a supporter of Red Sox nation, though not to the extent that I care that much.

The Celtics is something different. They just think they've won every other year for 30 years. I remember when the Lakers ran Boston out of the building in 6 games in '85? The year Magic hit the baby hook in the lane. Auerbach said something like "well, if Magic weren't shooting well, it'd be a different story". Too funny. I don't ever remember him saying - "we won because Bird shot so well.".

okt0ber
05-20-2008, 03:19 PM
Gee and the people from Texas don't think they're better than every other state and aren't full of arrogant people either.
No, couldn't be.
Especially fans of UT and sports and the way they talk down to other teams.

Wait, just about any fanbase is not heard from much when they are not winning.

Get a grip karate chopping steve
and remind me of the last time NY leveled Boston?
If it is due to titles then I guess OU levels Texas in football too don't they :eek:

Difference is, we back it up with stats and figures. And, it's true...

BDB
05-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Difference is, we back it up with stats and figures. And, it's true...

:notworthy

farmerfan
05-20-2008, 05:33 PM
Difference is, we back it up with stats and figures. And, it's true...

Funniest thing ever.
What stats and figures would those be?
Obesity?
Crime and murder?

Please do inform me.

okt0ber
05-20-2008, 05:39 PM
Funniest thing ever.
What stats and figures would those be?
Obesity?
Crime and murder?

Please do inform me.

How about all of Texas' largest cities are being flocked to by new previously out of state residents? How about San Antonio being named number two on the best places to live in the US from www.relocateamerica.com? No MA Cities were on there..... How about having one of the lowest tax or cost of living burdens in the entire country? How about no Kennedys live here?

You see, you Dallas people think that Dallas is reflective of what Texas is, which that couldn't be further from the truth. Dallas is unique from the rest of Texas, in that it's more like a cities outside of Texas. So, if you don't like Texas, blame it on Dallas. Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are true Texas.

hunterbunter
05-20-2008, 05:48 PM
How about all of Texas' largest cities are being flocked to by new previously out of state residents? How about San Antonio being named number two on the best places to live in the US from www.relocateamerica.com? No MA Cities were on there..... How about having one of the lowest tax or cost of living burdens in the entire country? How about no Kennedys live here?

You see, you Dallas people think that Dallas is reflective of what Texas is, which that couldn't be further from the truth. Dallas is unique from the rest of Texas, in that it's more like a cities outside of Texas. So, if you don't like Texas, blame it on Dallas. Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are true Texas.

wow...just wow

Matthew 2000 Eagle
05-20-2008, 05:50 PM
This morning on ESPN, Tom Heinsohn actually said this. He said Boston was better than Detroit because Rajon Rondo is better than Chauncy Billups,

And Tom Heinsohn needs his a$$ whooped for even letting that thought cross his mind. Chauncy is a matchup problem for Rondo, and alot of other folks in the league. With all due respect to Rondo, he is nowhere near Chauncy's level. Chauncy's game is like Jessica Biel or London "Deelishiz" Charles in a g-string; OFF DA CHAIN!

slorch
05-20-2008, 05:51 PM
In 8th grade, I can remember during athletics in late May when offseason was over, we got to go to the library and watch the 85 series between the celtics and the Lakers. All of the black kids seemed to like the lakers, and most of the white kids rooted for the celtics.

I hated both teams, I liked the Sixers and Dr J...;):D

But that was some awesome basketball in those wars on the parquet in the Garden and the Hollywood hoopla of Showtime in the Forum! i cannot imagine them having the playoffs on during the daytime like they did back then. Our kids might actually get to see some games!:rolleyes:

twcpfan1
05-20-2008, 05:57 PM
How about all of Texas' largest cities are being flocked to by new previously out of state residents? How about San Antonio being named number two on the best places to live in the US from www.relocateamerica.com? No MA Cities were on there..... How about having one of the lowest tax or cost of living burdens in the entire country? How about no Kennedys live here?

You see, you Dallas people think that Dallas is reflective of what Texas is, which that couldn't be further from the truth. Dallas is unique from the rest of Texas, in that it's more like a cities outside of Texas. So, if you don't like Texas, blame it on Dallas. Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are true Texas.

Texas is perfect if you have school aged children. Providing you earn enough to be able to live and have them go to schools in desirable addresses. Great HS and College sports. There is no place better.

But for singles, kidless couples and empty nesters? The whole state pretty much sucks. Unless you want to keep obsessing about HS Sports long after your kids have graduated. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's a great inexpensive form of entertainment. But for others, the restaurants aren't great. The downtown areas are for the most part dead and decaying except for small isolated pockets which they've targeted for development. (Austin is probably the exception to some extent, but no way it can be considered world class like other international cities). I think part of the problem is they want to keep people living in the burbs so they would have to commute in with their gas guzzling SUV's. Same thought process why mass transit is virtually nonexistent.

Personally, I'm in the perfect place for our family's situation at this time, with a kid at College Park and a kid at BCS (90 minutes by car frm The Woodz) . Would not even dream of living anywhere else. But after my youngest graduates, this place would be totally dead for me. Of course, it needs to be factored in that we have no extended family that live in this state.

cougmantx
05-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Texas is perfect if you have school aged children. Providing you earn enough to be able to live and have them go to schools in desirable addresses. Great HS and College sports. There is no place better.

But for singles, kidless couples and empty nesters? The whole state pretty much sucks. Unless you want to keep obsessing about HS Sports long after your kids have graduated. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's a great inexpensive form of entertainment. But for others, the restaurants aren't great. The downtown areas are for the most part dead and decaying except for small isolated pockets which they've targeted for development. (Austin is probably the exception to some extent, but no way it can be considered world class like other international cities). I think part of the problem is they want to keep people living in the burbs so they would have to commute in with their gas guzzling SUV's. Same thought process why mass transit is virtually nonexistent.

Personally, I'm in the perfect place for our family's situation at this time, with a kid at College Park and a kid at BCS (90 minutes by car frm The Woodz) . Would not even dream of living anywhere else. But after my youngest graduates, this place would be totally dead for me. Of course, it needs to be factored in that we have no extended family that live in this state.

As a native Texan that lived, went to school and worked in Boston, I have to agree with some of this. I think the resturants are getting much better here but the lack of public transportation shows a lack of vision on the part of Texans. There is nothing like being able to get on a light rail, subway or train and travel where ever you want. My wife and I will sometimes stay at the Magnolia in downtown Houston, ride the light rail to the museum district, hit a ballgame or other events and it's so nice to leave the car parked and walk or use the public transportation. Houston should wake up and start putting the light rail to the suburbs before it's to late and gas is $10.00 a gallon.

Think how nice it would be to get on a light rail in Sugarland, Katy, Woodlands or Conroe and ride it downtown for a game, hospital, school or night on the town with out having to fight the traffice of the major highways. We used to go to the symphony until it just got to be to much trouble to get there.

cougmantx
05-20-2008, 06:38 PM
Texas is perfect if you have school aged children. Providing you earn enough to be able to live and have them go to schools in desirable addresses. Great HS and College sports. There is no place better.

But for singles, kidless couples and empty nesters? The whole state pretty much sucks. Unless you want to keep obsessing about HS Sports long after your kids have graduated. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's a great inexpensive form of entertainment. But for others, the restaurants aren't great. The downtown areas are for the most part dead and decaying except for small isolated pockets which they've targeted for development. (Austin is probably the exception to some extent, but no way it can be considered world class like other international cities). I think part of the problem is they want to keep people living in the burbs so they would have to commute in with their gas guzzling SUV's. Same thought process why mass transit is virtually nonexistent.

Personally, I'm in the perfect place for our family's situation at this time, with a kid at College Park and a kid at BCS (90 minutes by car frm The Woodz) . Would not even dream of living anywhere else. But after my youngest graduates, this place would be totally dead for me. Of course, it needs to be factored in that we have no extended family that live in this state.

As a native Texan that lived, went to school and worked in Boston, I have to agree with some of this. I think the resturants are getting much better here but the lack of public transportation shows a lack of vision on the part of Texans. There is nothing like being able to get on a light rail, subway or train and travel where ever you want. My wife and I will sometimes stay at the Magnolia in downtown Houston, ride the light rail to the museum district, hit a ballgame or other events and it's so nice to leave the car parked and walk or use the public transportation. Houston should wake up and start putting the light rail to the suburbs before it's to late and gas is $10.00 a gallon.

Think how nice it would be to get on a light rail in Sugarland, Katy, Woodlands or Conroe and ride it downtown for a game, hospital, school or night on the town with out having to fight the traffic on the major highways. We used to go to the symphony until it just got to be to much trouble to get there.

slorch
05-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Texas is perfect if you have school aged children. Providing you earn enough to be able to live and have them go to schools in desirable addresses. Great HS and College sports. There is no place better.

But for singles, kidless couples and empty nesters? The whole state pretty much sucks. Unless you want to keep obsessing about HS Sports long after your kids have graduated. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's a great inexpensive form of entertainment. But for others, the restaurants aren't great. The downtown areas are for the most part dead and decaying except for small isolated pockets which they've targeted for development. (Austin is probably the exception to some extent, but no way it can be considered world class like other international cities). I think part of the problem is they want to keep people living in the burbs so they would have to commute in with their gas guzzling SUV's. Same thought process why mass transit is virtually nonexistent.

Personally, I'm in the perfect place for our family's situation at this time, with a kid at College Park and a kid at BCS (90 minutes by car frm The Woodz) . Would not even dream of living anywhere else. But after my youngest graduates, this place would be totally dead for me. Of course, it needs to be factored in that we have no extended family that live in this state.


depends on what one considers world class, as well as what one wants to retire to. Personally, I'd take a place up by Marble Falls or Salado over a so-called "international" city any day. I need a bunch of so-called "enlightened" folks( in Massachussetts) that are *****ing about how bad the USA is anyway, about as badly as I need more taxes to pay for their "free" programs.

We love raising our family in Texas. We can't wait to be just a couple again, in the great state of Texas. Those other places are fine to visit. I want to hang my hat where folks are polite and have a similar outlook on life. I still want to fish and hunt and be able to go to great sporting events too. Texas provides all of that.

stevefoxsc
05-20-2008, 07:11 PM
Gee and the people from Texas don't think they're better than every other state and aren't full of arrogant people either.
No, couldn't be.
Especially fans of UT and sports and the way they talk down to other teams.

Wait, just about any fanbase is not heard from much when they are not winning.

Get a grip karate chopping steve
and remind me of the last time NY leveled Boston?
If it is due to titles then I guess OU levels Texas in football too don't they :eek:

the following post was to disrespectful so i changed it.

slorch
05-20-2008, 07:29 PM
Stevefox, change your post, bro.

you know why...:cool:

farmerfan
05-20-2008, 07:50 PM
How about all of Texas' largest cities are being flocked to by new previously out of state residents? How about San Antonio being named number two on the best places to live in the US from www.relocateamerica.com? No MA Cities were on there..... How about having one of the lowest tax or cost of living burdens in the entire country? How about no Kennedys live here?

You see, you Dallas people think that Dallas is reflective of what Texas is, which that couldn't be further from the truth. Dallas is unique from the rest of Texas, in that it's more like a cities outside of Texas. So, if you don't like Texas, blame it on Dallas. Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are true Texas.

Dallas is a lot to blame and I for one agree with you on that, Dallas sucks. But the sad thing is, when you ask outsiders about their perception of Texas. Dallas for some reason is associated as the most popular place and most recognizable of the big cities in this state.
The same with no Kennedys living in Texas could be precieved as well no Bush's live in MA.
As far as cities go and cost of living, sure Boston and New England in general is expensive, but there is so much lacking in the Texas cities that are becoming as huge burden of cost, mainly transportation.
Up there, trains and mass transit can get you anywhere you want to go.
I still find the irony in anybody from Texas calling somebody an arrogant *** hilarious.
Outside of this state, people preceive Texans the exact same way. I've been to enough places as I am sure a lot of you all have to get a lot of crap from people because of bad experiences and overall arrogance they have recieved from Texans.

farmerfan
05-20-2008, 07:51 PM
lol down syndrome got the best of him

smoking too much of the reefer down in asstin again?

WestPlano006
05-20-2008, 08:29 PM
How about all of Texas' largest cities are being flocked to by new previously out of state residents? How about San Antonio being named number two on the best places to live in the US from www.relocateamerica.com? No MA Cities were on there..... How about having one of the lowest tax or cost of living burdens in the entire country? How about no Kennedys live here?
You see, you Dallas people think that Dallas is reflective of what Texas is, which that couldn't be further from the truth. Dallas is unique from the rest of Texas, in that it's more like a cities outside of Texas. So, if you don't like Texas, blame it on Dallas. Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are true Texas.

LOL

:notworthy:notworthy

You best comment yet!

okt0ber
05-20-2008, 08:33 PM
LOL

:notworthy:notworthy

You best comment yet!

Hell... one of them was shot here, even!

You see. I can play both sides of the political fence ;)

BoomerSooner
05-20-2008, 08:44 PM
Hell... one of them was shot here, even!

You see. I can play both sides of the political fence ;)

Making light of an assassination because of your feelings about Boston is not something I'd expect of you.

In general I like the Celtics, mostly because of Garnett. The team/city I can't stand is LA. They are a worse and more arrogant version of Boston. Boston might talk a lot when it's up, and shut up when it's down, but LA runs its mouth constantly. I've never seen a fanbase so removed from reality.

okt0ber
05-20-2008, 08:57 PM
Making light of an assassination because of your feelings about Boston is not something I'd expect of you.

In general I like the Celtics, mostly because of Garnett. The team/city I can't stand is LA. They are a worse and more arrogant version of Boston. Boston might talk a lot when it's up, and shut up when it's down, but LA runs its mouth constantly. I've never seen a fanbase so removed from reality.


well I edited that into it, actually. Maybe I shouldn't have? Well I'll just say I don't condone it.

WestPlano006
05-20-2008, 09:00 PM
Without Garnett the Celtics don't have this "magical" season. I don't know why he is getting criticism about not having a breakout game when he leads the team in point and rebounds in the playoffs. Ray Allen is pathetic this year in the playoffs.

RedRage00
05-20-2008, 09:18 PM
Texas is perfect if you have school aged children. Providing you earn enough to be able to live and have them go to schools in desirable addresses. Great HS and College sports. There is no place better.

But for singles, kidless couples and empty nesters? The whole state pretty much sucks. Unless you want to keep obsessing about HS Sports long after your kids have graduated. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's a great inexpensive form of entertainment. But for others, the restaurants aren't great. The downtown areas are for the most part dead and decaying except for small isolated pockets which they've targeted for development. (Austin is probably the exception to some extent, but no way it can be considered world class like other international cities). I think part of the problem is they want to keep people living in the burbs so they would have to commute in with their gas guzzling SUV's. Same thought process why mass transit is virtually nonexistent.

Personally, I'm in the perfect place for our family's situation at this time, with a kid at College Park and a kid at BCS (90 minutes by car frm The Woodz) . Would not even dream of living anywhere else. But after my youngest graduates, this place would be totally dead for me. Of course, it needs to be factored in that we have no extended family that live in this state.

I have to agree with this. I'm glad to have been raised in TX but as a single guy it really sucks! There is nothing that attractive for a single guy with no children. I'm going to try and leave in 2yrs or so. I'm just going to stay in Dallas until I can get my CPA. After that, the world is mine! Nothing is holding me back right now. Some of the cities that I would relocate to are San Francisco, Boston, or New York City. I just want to get my CPA so I can afford to live in those places! :D

lonny23
05-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Heinsohn is a Celtic homer. He's always pro-green. That was a drawback of having him on the CBS games in the 80's.

Yes, I hated the black-white thing with the Celtics and Lakers in the 80's and still do. In my books, you are a piece of :Censor: for liking either team because of the color of the stars. I really hate 80's Lakers fans that became Bulls fans in the 90's and many were back on the Shaq-Kobe Lakers. It's called having no loyalty and looking for the easy road and being a frontrunner. Those are some of the same people that have kids go to the highest bidder and to colleges out of state.

stevefoxsc
05-20-2008, 10:49 PM
smoking too much of the reefer down in asstin again?

rofl how about you go drink and drive only do it blind folded with out a seat belt.

HebronHawk
05-21-2008, 06:43 AM
I have to agree with this. I'm glad to have been raised in TX but as a single guy it really sucks! There is nothing that attractive for a single guy with no children. I'm going to try and leave in 2yrs or so. I'm just going to stay in Dallas until I can get my CPA. After that, the world is mine! Nothing is holding me back right now. Some of the cities that I would relocate to are San Francisco, Boston, or New York City. I just want to get my CPA so I can afford to live in those places! :D

CPA's don't get paid that well!

RedRage00
05-21-2008, 09:57 AM
CPA's don't get paid that well!

Well, you must not know the ones I know

CKE
05-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Making light of an assassination because of your feelings about Boston is not something I'd expect of you.

In general I like the Celtics, mostly because of Garnett. The team/city I can't stand is LA. They are a worse and more arrogant version of Boston. Boston might talk a lot when it's up, and shut up when it's down, but LA runs its mouth constantly. I've never seen a fanbase so removed from reality.

ou sucks

K-Rock
05-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Making light of an assassination because of your feelings about Boston is not something I'd expect of you.

In general I like the Celtics, mostly because of Garnett. The team/city I can't stand is LA. They are a worse and more arrogant version of Boston. Boston might talk a lot when it's up, and shut up when it's down, but LA runs its mouth constantly. I've never seen a fanbase so removed from reality.

I think Cowboys' fans can give anyone a run for their money.

BDB
05-21-2008, 12:44 PM
ou sucks

water is wet

lonny23
05-21-2008, 03:09 PM
I think Cowboys' fans can give anyone a run for their money.
I hate Cowboys fans.

1. I hate the guys from out of state that should root for other teams. Okies, some of Lousyanna, possibly some Arkies, and maybe a little of New Mexico are about the extent of true out of staters who should be Cowboys fans. I'm not talking about Texans who have to work out of state.

2. I hate the in-state fans that root for non-Texas teams in other sports.

I know some of you cats are going to say none of this matters, but time has taught me that fans like I just described usually have character flaws in them that are even more undesirable than who they root for. The guy that is both a Yankees and Cowboys fan is the same guy that wouldn't have a problem lying to stay out of trouble or somebody you don't want in a foxhole with you when trouble comes. You want loyalty, not the guy who wants the easy road.

I'm blessed to be a Cowboys fan all these years, but I still would've been a Cowboys fan even if they'd played like the Saints. I started with the expansion Mavs in 1980, switched to the mostly unsucessful Minnesota North Stars when they announced their move (That came in the same year that my favorite team had lost in the Stanley Cup Finals), and neither the Rangers or Astros had ever been to the playoffs when I started watching them.

Favpack
05-21-2008, 03:23 PM
I've never been a Ted Kennedy fan - but he was just diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor - so, let's don't go there.

With game 1 behind us - looks like another 7 game series unless Detroit can win game 2 - which is doubtful.

The hilarious thing is - Boston will not win a road PO game this year - mark it down. Could they win it all - without taking a road game?

lonny23
05-21-2008, 03:31 PM
I've never been a Ted Kennedy fan - but he was just diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor - so, let's don't go there.

With game 1 behind us - looks like another 7 game series unless Detroit can win game 2 - which is doubtful.

The hilarious thing is - Boston will not win a road PO game this year - mark it down. Could they win it all - without taking a road game?It hasn't happened before, but it could. All the games will take a toll at some point and they'll lose a home game. They won't be the champs.

twcpfan1
05-21-2008, 04:39 PM
CPA's don't get paid that well!

If he gets a small apartment in Jersey somewhere, he can afford NYC. He would not even need a car or the gas to run it.

Property taxes and automobile costs just absolutely kill you in this state.

RedRage00
05-21-2008, 04:47 PM
If he gets a small apartment in Jersey somewhere, he can afford NYC. He would not even need a car or the gas to run it.

Property taxes and automobile costs just absolutely kill you in this state.

I was in NYC this past weekend and was talking to this lady. She was raised in NYC and she told me she has a place in Jersey for $250 a month. She said all her friends in NY laugh at her for living in Jersey until she tells them how much she pays. She only pays $80 a month for a metropass...there's her transportation LOL...instead of a car payment, insurance, gas, and maintenance.

I've always wanted to live in the big city. I'll make it there before I'm 30. :D