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FootballJunkie

10-27-2005, 11:18 PM

I just love those computers don't you?

The whys of Texas are upon me.

Why has the BCS formula suddenly decided Texas is slightly better than USC? The Trojans, who wield the most difficult to defend offense in NCAA history, would beat Texas by two touchdowns on a neutral field. Maybe three.

Once again, the BCS is no smarter than a Baloney and Cheese Sandwich.

Why have 10 voters of allegedly sound mind and body convinced themselves to cast their first-place votes in the Associated Press media poll for Texas? Is this the Bevo Channeling Society? Only the Longhorns' mascot -- a steer -- could have a brain small enough to deduce that Texas has proven to be superior to USC.

Thank goodness the Trojans received 55 other first-place votes this week, ensuring life as we know it will continue until the next poll.

But why in the name of "2001's" HAL did five of the six computer rankings that make up one-third of the BCS not have USC No. 1? The Trojans were second on two runaway computers, fourth on another and fifth on another.

Perhaps those who run the computers should plead the fifth or have another fifth. Yes, the Longhorns' first-place margin is only .0007 (what Timothy Dalton should have called himself when he turned James Bond into Hamlet).

But why do we keep hearing that Texas' schedule has been so much tougher than USC's? It is only in the eyes of Texas.

Yes, Ohio State in its Horseshoe was extremely tough. Yet Ohio State coach Jim Tressel blew that game more than Texas won it. Tressel appeared to be channeling Bevo by starting and finishing with quarterback Justin Zwick, even though Troy Smith led the Buckeyes on five scoring drives and built a 22-16 lead through three quarters. Zwick's late fumble clinched a 25-22 Texas win.

Ohio State couldn't recover from that loss in time to survive the dam -- or damn! -- that burst on the Buckeyes when they visited reborn Penn State. Yet Ohio State would give USC a better neutral-field test than Texas, because Ohio State has a better defense and better overall team speed than Texas.

So Texas blew away Oklahoma? Oklahoma without Adrian Peterson isn't much better than Oklahoma State.

So Texas knocked the heck out of Tech? Texas Tech just might have been the most overrated late-October top 10 team in NCAA history.

OK, mauling Colorado 42-17 in Austin was pretty impressive. So was Texas 51, Missouri 20 in Columbia. But let's remember that Big 12 fodder helped create an Oklahoma that was so overhyped that Vegas odds-makers made it a slight favorite over USC in last season's national title game.

A source close to USC coaches says they believed they "could have scored a 100" if they had wanted. They settled for 55-19.

So why haven't this year's Trojans received more poll credit for taking Oregon's best shot at Oregon, and Arizona State's best shot at Arizona State, and Notre Dame's best magic-green-jersey shot at Notre Dame, and throwing devastating counter punches?

All USC has done is lead the nation in points (49) and yards (581) a game, while producing three Heisman candidates. For two games, quarterback Matt Leinart and scatback Reggie Bush took backseats to power back Lendale White, who looks much faster than he did last season.

Come on, cut these kids a little slack. They're attempting to pull off something that hasn't been done in college football's "poll" era -- win three straight national championships. They're every opponent's bowl game, while all that really matters to the Trojans is playing in the bowl game -- January's national title game.

So they tend to pace themselves, to turn it off, then turn it way on. They know they need to save some rocket fuel for games against Washington State (which has scored 41 and 38 in its last two), at Cal (which is averaging 37.8 a game), Fresno State (43.8) and UCLA (44.4).

USC's schedule remains testy, while Texas' only potential trap remains at rival A&M's sound asylum. So obviously, if USC wins out, its strength of schedule will prevail over Texas'.

Won't it? With the Bowl Computer Saps, you never know.

Clearly, if Virginia Tech wins out, it should vault over Texas into the title game, right? At home, the Hokies have Boston College (tonight on ESPN), Miami and North Carolina, and Virginia away. They could play Florida State in the ACC title game, while Texas would be stuck with a Missouri or Colorado rematch in the Big 12 title game.

As Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer said: "If you get through all those and the computer doesn't go ring-a-ding-ding ... "

What are the odds the Hokies go 12-0? Not as long as you might think. This is an extremely well-coached team with a tough, fast, deep defense and dynamite special teams. But like Texas, Virginia Tech's offense goes as its high-risk, high-reward quarterback goes.

Tech's Marcus Vick is the more dangerous breakaway runner. He isn't quite brother Michael, but he's close. But the Longhorns' Vince Young is a little better passer than Marcus (or Michael) -- and Young is the more dynamic leader.

The other day in Austin, Texas coach Mack Brown surprised me during a brief chat by summing up his team this way: "We are Vince."

If Young plays well, the Longhorns win. If he doesn't ...

Brown and his staff have done a phenomenal job of transforming Young from a sidearm slinger into an astonishingly accurate passer. He still has a funky flip of a delivery, but at 6-foot-5, he can see the field far better than Marcus (or Michael), and most of Young's passes this season have been spirals that found their mark.

Sometimes it's almost as though Young wills the ball to his receivers. This kid could wind up being the greatest competitor -- and winner -- this school has ever had. And when you're following in the orange footprints of Bobby Layne and James Street, that's saying something.

Yet Young still occasionally reverts to the Vince the Wince of the past two seasons. He got away with two interceptions at Ohio State. A seismic first-half interception against Oklahoma was canceled by a phantom off-the-ball pass interference penalty. Young threw two first-half interceptions and missed several open receivers against Texas Tech -- yet the Red Raiders were so overmatched it didn't matter.

And some draft experts project Young as a top-five pick if he leaves after this, his junior year? If I were running an NFL team, I wouldn't bet my salary cap on Young's long-term pocket passing. A quarterback's legs can take a pro team only so far.

Yes, Young's offensive line is a herd of Bevos -- but it isn't better than USC's. Young's freshman back, Jamaal Charles, is going to be a star -- but he's no Reggie Bush. Who is? Young has a nice stable of receivers -- but no 6-5 deep threat like USC's Dwayne Jarrett.

New Texas defensive coordinator Gene Chizik, who did an underpublicized job at Auburn last season, has brought savvy and attack-mode toughness to a Longhorns defense that too often has gone soft during Brown's tenure.

But is Chizik a better defensive game-planner than USC's coach Pete Carroll? No. When the Trojans have needed to bring the pass-rushing heat this season, they can bring it the way no team can. That pass rush can camouflage an ordinary secondary when it counts.

And that's why a USC-Texas title game would look something like when Michael Vick and Virginia Tech played Florida State for the 2000 championship. Vick made some holy-cow plays early -- as would Young. But Florida State slowly asserted its superiority and won, 46-29.

That's about what would happen to Texas against USC.

This year's Virginia Tech could keep it a little closer. Ohio State could keep it a lot closer.

Instead, enjoy this week's Baloney and Cheese Sandwich.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/051027 (http://)

wide-e-wide

10-27-2005, 11:23 PM

Who wrote that?....your little brother?

FootballJunkie

10-27-2005, 11:25 PM

Who wrote that?....your little brother?

From ESPN my friend. Gotta love those people don't ya! :D

Primetime536

10-27-2005, 11:31 PM

From ESPN my friend. Gotta love those people don't ya! :D
Ha, espn, we are talking to the one and only wide-e-wide the mans a sports almanac he knows 10 times more than espn :cool:

rattlerbacker

10-27-2005, 11:32 PM

wide-e-wide

10-27-2005, 11:35 PM

Ha, espn, we are talking to the one and only wide-e-wide the mans a sports almanac he knows 10 times more than espn :cool:

You tried to make a joke...but
Considering ESPN is the same network that employs the genius that is Kirk Herbstreit...that brainiac Joe Theismann...previously Trev Alberts...and who could forget the all-knowing Lee Corso who picked Indiana to beat Ohio St. last week...

You might not be far off with your little quip.

FootballJunkie

10-27-2005, 11:36 PM

Skip "Brainless" Bayless, who has hated everything in and about the state of Texas since he got fired from every newspaper he ever wrote for here and got run out of the state.

Funny how the Master Coaches Survey has Texas #1 as well.

Master Coaches Survey (http://www.mcspoll.com/poll.htm)

AND the Master Coaches Poll counts for what exactly??? Just let the computer keep beeping and come the end of the season we shall see!!!

rattlerbacker

10-27-2005, 11:38 PM

Man you just keep ignoring evidence don't you? You got your shorts pulled down on the other thread and want to act like nothing happened, LOL. :D

FootballJunkie

10-27-2005, 11:49 PM

Man you just keep ignoring evidence don't you? You got your shorts pulled down on the other thread and want to act like nothing happened, LOL. :D

No I really didn't. Mack Brown did that and he can't take it back. since I am biased toward the east coast might as well really show it and speak the truth while I'm at it. As for the rest I will let those computers keep ringing. LOL

Smile when they move you up...Keep smiling when they move you down!! :D

mtbray

10-28-2005, 04:56 AM

Skip "Brainless" Bayless, who has hated everything in and about the state of Texas since he got fired from every newspaper he ever wrote for here and got run out of the state.

At Cold Pizza last week we all constantly shouted **** at him and made him hate his life while he was here. It was glorious. Woody on the other hand is quite a man. He even wears tennis shoes with his suit....god he's fratty.

rattlerbacker

10-28-2005, 06:43 AM

Favpack

10-28-2005, 08:18 AM

Virginia Tech thumping Boston College (No. 13) last night 30-10 should tighten up the top 3 spots even more.

KT2000

10-28-2005, 08:23 AM

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 08:38 AM

Junkie, the Master Coaches Survey is on ESPN Classic every Wednesday night. YOu might want to check it out, it means a whole lot more than Skippy Bayless's opinion. Ivan Maisel (you know, from ESPN.com) wrote a nice column about it a week ago or so. Maybe you can find that, too. If you have trouble just let me know and I'll give you the link.

BTW, you do realize that you just continuing to say something is true doesn't make it so, don't you? What happened to all those "links" that were going to "prove" your point? You got called out and couldn't back up your junk. Your credibility is shot. Anyone else would realize that already but you are so eaten up with hate/jealousy/envy that I doubt you ever will. Keep on making up those facts, I love reading fairy tales, LOL.

Wow...I said I had links. I posted 2 of them and both said the same thing. I say again Mack Brown did that so get over it!! I did read the article on the Coaches Survey and again I say what does it mean??? Nothing.

I say the BigXII is down THIS year!!...that IS true.
I say the BigXII has the second worst SOS of all the BCS conferences this year besides the Big East!!...It IS true.
I say that the one good team UT has played "Ohio State" they struggled!!...It IS true.
I say that since SOS is part of the BCS and looking at the stretch run with UT playing not one ranked team and Vtech playing 4 if they win out the computers will go ring-a-ding-ding!!!...It IS true.

So...although I state facts that most of the people up here don't want to hear or refuse to believe,I forgive you it is a Texas site, does not make me wrong.

So my credibility survives because I posted the article's (plural) showing what Mack Brown did and also because although thinking VA Tech is better than UT is MY OPINION. Everything I have said about the BIGXII is a FACT and I provide the proof. You my friend only try to deny my FACTS with random opinions.

If you were not a complete "Homer", you would know that outside of this great state of Texas their are people who believe the way I do. You should try and get around some. Will help you become more well rounded in your thinking!!

Smile when the computers move you up....continue to smile when they move you down. :D

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 09:06 AM

Bayless is from Oklahoma. Enough said on that. He's doing everything in his power to become the sports media "shock jock", but it aint working.

If Texas had beaten BC 30-10, people would be talking about how overrated the Longhorns are. I don't know when a 30-10 game becomes dominant. If VT was the team everyone claims they are, they would have beaten that BC team by 50. They were horrible in my opinion.

KT you are a hard man. I mean 500 yards of offense limit the #13 team to 27 yards rushing and the defense is plus 7. Miss 2 field goals and fumble in the endzone limiting the score and still it is 30-10 and you say horrible. I know you love UT but get real. I guess you forgot that 2002 OHIO STATE championship team dude. I don't remember a lot of 50 point games none actually, but I do remember an Undefeated season 14-0 and beating MIAMI for a title. What UT MIGHT have done is OPINION. What VTech DID do is a fact. That is dominate the #13 team on PRIME TIME ESPN for all the voters to see. :D

Smile when the computers move you up...continue to smile when they move you down. :D

KT2000

10-28-2005, 09:06 AM

Nothing like some good 'ol factual evidence. Here you go...

The fact is Texas beat a top five team on the road against arguably the toughest home field advantage in the country.

The fact is Texas went on the road and destroyed a Mizzou team led by one of the most dynamic talents in college football.

The fact is Texas dominated a hot Colorado team many thought they'd struggle with.

The fact is Texas once again dismantled a Tech team who entered the contest averaging over 40 points per game in addition to having the #1 total offense, and they left Austin with a 52-17 loss.

The fact is Texas has the 4th best scoring offense in the country (46.6 per game), 11th ranked total offense, 5th best rushing offense, 6th ranked total defense and 7th ranked rush defense.

The fact is Texas has played the #1 ranked pass offense, #1 scoring offense, #2 total offense, #17 scoring offense, #9 rushing offense, #12 total offense, #3 total defense, #8 scoring defense and #19 scoring defense.

The fact is one of the only real numerical advantages VA Tech has over Texas is scoring defense and total defense (both are top 10 in each), but VA Tech's strongest offensive opponent (Boston College :eek: ) had the #32 ranked total offense/#49 ranked scoring offense in the country!

Any more facts, and you might as well call me Webster.

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 09:19 AM

Attempting to use schedule strength to back up your claim of VT being better than Texas completely eliminates the credibility of your "facts" in my opinion.

The fact isTexas beat a top five team on the road against one of the toughest home field advantages in the country.

The fact is Texas went on the road and destroyed a Mizzou team led by one of the most dynamic talents in college football.

The fact is Texas dominated a hot Colorado team many thought they'd struggle with.

The fact is Texas once again dismantled a Tech team who entered the contest averaging over 40 points per game in addition to having the #1 total offense, and they left Austin with a 52-17 loss.

The fact is Texas has the 4th best scoring offense in the country (46.6 per game), 11th ranked total offense, 5th best rushing offense, 6th ranked total defense and 7th ranked rush defense.

The fact is Texas has played the #1 ranked pass offense, #1 scoring offense, #2 total offense, #17 scoring offense, #9 rushing offense, #12 total offense, #3 total defense, #8 scoring defense, #19 scoring defense.

The fact is one of the only real numerical advantages VA Tech has over Texas is scoring defense and total defense (both are top 10 in each), but VA Tech's strongest offensive opponent (Boston College :eek: ) had the #32 ranked total offense/#49 ranked scoring offense in the country!

Any more facts, and you might as well call me Webster.

OK actually Vtech has the #2 defense in the country.

#1 scoring defense in the country.

Since you want to use opponents lets see. #15,#20,#13,#6, plus a top 10 team in the ACC championship.

Using the fact the BIGXII is down is what I should do since everyone is jumping on the fact UT is #1 in the BCS now lets see what happens at the end when all the equations are done. Lets see what the Human Voters do after a win over #6Miami late in the year as opposed to UT beating a now 2 loss OSU early. Lets see what the computer does when you type in all those ranked teams for VTech and UT does not play another one the rest of the year. Type in SOS as well. Ring-a-ding-ding baby!!!

Texas beating Vtech is YOUR opinion can't be Fact has not happened but VTECH did beat UT in 95 Sugar bowl remember that!! That is a FACT.

Bye the way I know you have heard it Offense wins games Defense wins championships dude.

KT2000

10-28-2005, 09:20 AM

Boston College is the strongest offensive team VA Tech has faced this year. That pretty much ends the discussion in my opinion.

As soon as the Hokies beat down someone who's familiar with terms such as the red zone, goalline or end zone...I'll give them props.

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 09:23 AM

Boston College is the strongest offensive team VA Tech has faced this year. That pretty much ends the discussion in my opinion.

AND Texas freaking Tech was the strongest offense UT has played and they gave up 468 yards. TEXAS TECH the Rodney Dangerfields of college football. :cool:

Give me a break!!

KT2000

10-28-2005, 09:28 AM

Texas Tech has the #1 total offense in the country. You're going nowhere fast on this partner.

When you throw the ball 60+ times a game, your bound rack up a few yards. Texas held Hodges over 100 yards below his average and over 30 points below the offense's point average.

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 09:38 AM

Texas Tech has the #1 total offense in the country. You going nowhere fast on this partner.

When you throw the ball 60+ times a game, your bound rack up a few yards. Texas held Hodges over 1000 yards below his average and over 30 points below the offense's point average.

Exactly my point if you throw 60+ time of course you will put up NUMBERS.

University of Houston did the same thing what did it get them. Big NUMBERS. They were still a joke just like Texas Tech. They led the same stat last year big deal!! I don't think UT held him to 1000 yard below his average either you might want to check that :rolleyes:

So your so-called #1 offense gets you no-where. Memphis has the #1 rushing offense and Navy is #2 what does it mean...NOTHING they still suck dude.

KT2000

10-28-2005, 09:48 AM

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 10:11 AM

Typo on the 1,000...should be 100.

You're spinning around on this. If numbers don't mean anything in Tech's offense then why did you try to use Tech's total yardage as a knock on the Texas defense? That's why I came back with the stats to discredit that and show that the Longhorns held them well below their season averages.

BTW, the Texas DC Gene Chizik is the tactician who helped his Auburn unit (at the time) roll the Hokies in the Sugar Bowl last year. That doesn't guarantee anything as far as this year goes. Just another fun fact for the day.

Auburn did not roll anyone. Give us a break. But Michigan did put up like 500 yards on UT in the Rose Bowl :rolleyes: Numbers show that a weak TT team with a fraud offense can roll on UT just imagine if you play a real team. By the way Tech ran for 100 on UT I believe that is right at their season average!! This by the Rodney Dangerfields of NCAA. Against the Great UT.

Your argument is what??? UT will beat Vtech, that is YOUR opinion.
What quantifies that the win over 2 loss OSU or the win over the Rodney Dangerfields of the NCAA?? UT undefeated...VTech undefeated. BIG XII is weak ACC is not. We will see come December who is in and who is out!!

KT2000

10-28-2005, 10:34 AM

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 11:11 AM

If you bothered to actually read my post you'd see that I said my comment regarding Chizik meant nothing as far as this year goes, but just another fun FACT.

Also, you'd notice I said Chizik's unit (as in defense) rolled the Hokies.

It's pretty impressive you've managed to overlook most of the facts I've posted, but continue to try and spin some of them to back yourself up.

"That's what I like about you...your attention to detail."- Ace Ventura

Actually I have read all the post that you wrote and seen your facts. What is amazing is that you don't see anyone elses. I mean you say Vtech can't jump UT in the Human Polls. Why not?? That is exactly what UT did last year to get to the Rose Bowl. You say the BCS will not move UT out. Well if I remember Correctly it moved USC out 2 years ago and put OU in so why can't it do the same this year. I said the SOS of Vtech will be greater at the end of the year if they win out because of the ranked teams. You tell me it does not matter!! I mean I listen to you but you in turn don't listen to opposing views.

KT2000

10-28-2005, 11:17 AM

Look at the numbers in the human polls and then deliver me the scenario on how VT jumps Texas if they both win out. Human polls aren't as fickle as computers.

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 11:25 AM

Look at the numbers in the human polls and then deliver me the scenario on how VT jumps Texas if they both win out. Human polls aren't as fickle as computers.

Doesn't take both polls only one. UT is 65 points ahead of UT in one poll. VTECH has 3 First place votes. Vtech beats BC, MIAMI,UVA,FSU all in prime time. You tell me why places can not be reversed. Like I said Human polls change. UT jumped Cal last year. Coaches Vote Nebraska #1 in 97 after having them #2 all year come on humans can and have been fickled.

KT2000

10-28-2005, 11:34 AM

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 11:41 AM

You are overlooking the fact the BCS underwent a huge change this last off-season and the computers don't have near the overall influence they did. The human polls have 2/3 of the pull and aren't near as effected by the computers as they previously were.

UT trumped Cal mostly via the computers. However, Cal never had as much cushion last year as Texas/USC do this year. This is the most pronounced #1 and 2 I've seen from the BCS to date. I still think it's a crap system, but just saying I've never seen it this clearly defined.

Still early my friend. New BCS on monday then another after the MIAMI game. Lets see what the humans and computers come up with. Like I said this all becomes mute if someone loses but will be interesting. One human poll change plus the computers lets see what happens!! Computer rank right now 1.000 for UT, .940 for USC and .910 for VTech that will change!!

The BCS Avg has USC and UT tied at .976 and Vtech at .916 so not that much ground really needs to be made up. We shall see.

GTown02

10-28-2005, 12:16 PM

Doesn't take both polls only one. UT is 65 points ahead of UT in one poll. VTECH has 3 First place votes. Vtech beats BC, MIAMI,UVA,FSU all in prime time.
I guess VaTech has already beat all those teams right? VaTech's season ranking so far is hanging on beating #15 at the time Georgia Tech, and beating #13 Boston College which is a FACT....you cant talk about beating the teams left on your schedule until you actually have, so please stop mentioning them until the season is over...

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 12:31 PM

I guess VaTech has already beat all those teams right? VaTech's season ranking so far is hanging on beating #15 at the time Georgia Tech, and beating #13 Boston College which is a FACT....you cant talk about beating the teams left on your schedule until you actually have, so please stop mentioning them until the season is over...

Well I did say this will be the argument in December. I stated that when all is said and done then type it in the computers and see what happens. That would mean they did win. I also said the point is mute if they lose and would have been fun arguing about it. I also said that if VTech is hanging their hats on #15 at the time GTech and #13BC then UT is hanging there hat on a PRESEASON #4 and now 2 loss Ohio St. and an Overated Texas Tech team so what might your point be.

lonny23

10-28-2005, 12:55 PM

Who wrote that?....your little brother?
The biggest hater of Texas teams of all-time. The one, the only (thankfully!),

SKIP BAYLESS! :mad:

dada

10-28-2005, 01:17 PM

Well I did say this will be the argument in December. I stated that when all is said and done then type it in the computers and see what happens. That would mean they did win. I also said the point is mute if they lose and would have been fun arguing about it. I also said that if VTech is hanging their hats on #15 at the time GTech and #13BC then UT is hanging there hat on a PRESEASON #4 and now 2 loss Ohio St. and an Overated Texas Tech team so what might your point be.
This weeks "HATER OF THE WEEK" Award goes to...........................

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:25 PM

Well I did say this will be the argument in December. I stated that when all is said and done then type it in the computers and see what happens. That would mean they did win. I also said the point is mute if they lose and would have been fun arguing about it. I also said that if VTech is hanging their hats on #15 at the time GTech and #13BC then UT is hanging there hat on a PRESEASON #4 and now 2 loss Ohio St. and an Overated Texas Tech team so what might your point be.
If its going to be an argument in December... lets wait and see if it comes true... you guys should be talking about who you HAVE beat not who you MIGHT beat....

TheDuke

10-28-2005, 01:28 PM

I feel alot of love on this thread guys! :eek:

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:33 PM

I feel alot of love on this thread guys! :eek:
Have you read the "VT in another blowout" thread yet? There is some major love in that thread as well! ;)

TheDuke

10-28-2005, 01:39 PM

Have you read the "VT in another blowout" thread yet? There is some major love in that thread as well! ;)

Oh ya, these threads crack me up. All we need is ONE MORE BCS GAME:

#1 plays #4

Winner of the two plays here for the CHAMPIONSHIP

#2 plays #3

FootballJunkie

10-28-2005, 01:42 PM

If its going to be an argument in December... lets wait and see if it comes true... you guys should be talking about who you HAVE beat not who you MIGHT beat....

Lets see. If UT fans can pencil themselves into the Rose Bowl on October 28, 2005...Then why can't I talk about the possible end results of another teams season. I mean you guys have all but bought tickets so what is your point?? :rolleyes:

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:43 PM

Oh ya, these threads crack me up. All we need is ONE MORE BCS GAME:

#1 plays #4

Winner of the two plays here for the CHAMPIONSHIP

#2 plays #3
Isnt that the BCS + 1 scenario that some people are proposing? Have the same 4 BCS bowls, and the winners play each other? Keep playing until one team remains... sort of like a mini playoff system...

TheDuke

10-28-2005, 01:44 PM

yes, doesn't that seem fair? I mean that is the only way to have 1 champion!

dada

10-28-2005, 01:47 PM

Here are two FACTS:

USC AND TEXAS are #1 and #2 in the BCS.

The rest is coulda,woulda, shoulda. If a frog had wings he would'nt bump his A@@ every time he hopped.

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:51 PM

Lets see. If UT fans can pencil themselves into the Rose Bowl on October 28, 2005...Then why can't I talk about the possible end results of another teams season. I mean you guys have all but bought tickets so what is your point?? :rolleyes:
I havent bought tickets ;). How about this... lets just end the argument... lets just wait until Bowl Selection Sunday or whatever its called to start talking smack some more! These arguments will continue for the rest of the season, and mean absolutely nothing...

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:52 PM

yes, doesn't that seem fair? I mean that is the only way to have 1 champion!
But is that the BCS + 1 scenario that some people are talking about? Ive heard that phrase, but i've never seen an explaination for it... does anyone know what it actually means?

TheDuke

10-28-2005, 01:53 PM

GTown02

10-28-2005, 01:56 PM

I am all for Texas playing USC, however, I do think if VT wins out they should have shot at the title, thus: BCS PLAYOFF (if they win out)

What If:

#1 TEXAS
vs.
#4 GEORGIA

#2 USC
vs.
#3 V. TECH

WINNER OF THESE PLAYS EACH OTHER! THAT WOULD BE SICK!!
But there are 4 BCS bowls? What do you do with the other two games? Just have the top 8 teams have a mini playoff system with the 4 big bowls? I think that would be one of the best ways to get a true NC, besides having an actual playoff system.

TheDuke

10-28-2005, 01:58 PM

You could do that also, have like a GREAT EIGHT Tourney! That would be cool, but it might make the season to long?

GTown02

10-28-2005, 02:01 PM

You could do that also, have like a GREAT EIGHT Tourney! That would be cool, but it might make the season to long?
Well instead of having that month to prepare for the bowl game, they could start a couple weeks earlier and play a team once a week just like regular season... But I would probably miss Bowl Week too much if they got rid of it! :(

rattlerbacker

10-28-2005, 02:57 PM

Junkie, you keep pumping out your imagination and your opinions, everyone knows you don't know a FACT. You haven't posted one yet, LOL. BTW, since you're so into ESPN guys' opinions, here's Craig James from his chat today:

Matt (McLean, VA): I'm a Hokie fan and I have trouble looking beyond the next game (and the game after that, etc.) Much of the media is assuming VT will win out, which leads me to believe that they haven't much knowledge about college football history. Any of the remaining teams can take out VT on any given Saturday if things go their way. So even though I agree that VT should earn a spot in the BCS championship game IF they win out, they haven't done so yet and have yet to go through Miami and possibly FSU, two seriously daunting tasks. Why does the media assume all three teams will win out? UT is the only one I'd put money on and that's because they're a great team in a seriously weak conference with a weak schedule remaining with only one quality win - Ohio State (sorry, but Texas Tech's wins over its non-conference opponents should not have factored into their #7 ranking...talk about a LAME schedule!)

Craig James: (3:03 PM ET ) Sounds to me like you're whinin' and lobbying for VT. Tech's good and might win out. I'll tell you this right now...Texas Tech would whip Boston College!!!

Ruvin, PA: In his article for page 2, your collegue Skip Bayless asserted that "Ohio State has a better defense and better overall team speed than Texas," and that "[Virginia] Tech's Marcus Vick is the more dangerous breakaway runner [than Vince Young]." Do you agree or disagree with these assessments, Craig, or is Skip displaying an anti-Texas bias that destroys his credibility?

Craig James: (3:06 PM ET ) Texas ran Skip's little a.. out of the state and he's crazy as he.. if he thinks the way you say. Showbiz must be getting to Skip.

The Link (http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=9662)

Just somethng for all you comical Va. Tech fans to think about !!!!!

HOOKEM

10-28-2005, 03:42 PM

OK actually Vtech has the #2 defense in the country.

#1 scoring defense in the country.

Since you want to use opponents lets see. #15,#20,#13,#6, plus a top 10 team in the ACC championship.

Using the fact the BIGXII is down is what I should do since everyone is jumping on the fact UT is #1 in the BCS now lets see what happens at the end when all the equations are done. Lets see what the Human Voters do after a win over #6Miami late in the year as opposed to UT beating a now 2 loss OSU early. Lets see what the computer does when you type in all those ranked teams for VTech and UT does not play another one the rest of the year. Type in SOS as well. Ring-a-ding-ding baby!!!

Texas beating Vtech is YOUR opinion can't be Fact has not happened but VTECH did beat UT in 95 Sugar bowl remember that!! That is a FACT.

Bye the way I know you have heard it Offense wins games Defense wins championships dude.

The fact is that if Texas does not lose it does not matter what Va tech does and it does not matter what all the Texas haters say on this board. Crow is best served up well aged around the beginning of december

Hdshrinker

10-28-2005, 03:58 PM

The fact is that if Texas does not lose it does not matter what Va tech does and it does not matter what all the Texas haters say on this board. Crow is best served up well aged around the beginning of december

I'm laughing like crazy right now...Roger Lodge on Jim Rome is burning just said that USC and VA would be in the final game because VA Tech is going to beat Miami, win the conference and Texas was going to lose the last game of the season against A&M.....What a riot that would be for all you aggy haters that bring every discussion to bare on A & M.

and the funniest thing? Even though I am not an Aggy fan? I'll be there watching that game. You guys almost persuadest me...... LOL

I wonder if Lodge is an ex aggy?

Rerun

10-28-2005, 04:04 PM

A&m Blows

Hdshrinker

10-28-2005, 04:19 PM

A&m Blows

Brilliant!

Rerun

10-28-2005, 04:21 PM

absolutely