Arkansas Mom expecting 19th child

[Favpack]

A hearty congrats to this Arkansas family who is developing their own little city. 24 years of blissful marriage has brought 18 kids and one in the oven.

Jim Bob needs surgery if you get my drift.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24537885&GT1=43001

[Favpack]

My apologies - 17 kids - with 18th on the way. I got ahead of myself.

[J-Rock Mom]

I heard this this morning. I think they are getting carried away. The poor older children don't have a life all they do is take care of the little ones all the time.

[GoOwls]

I heard this this morning. I think they are getting carried away. The poor older children don't have a life all they do is take care of the little ones all the time.

True...I hear you....but remember, before early part of the 20th century, most families were that way......it was the rural way of life.

What we now-a-days call "having a life" was unheard of a relatively short time ago.

Just a century ago, having 10 kids or more was a way of life.....a necessary way of life.

Just putting things in perspective

[EagleDude73]

I heard this this morning. I think they are getting carried away. The poor older children don't have a life all they do is take care of the little ones all the time.

What's wrong with these kids learnin' response -err-bility at a young age? The rest of the world needs to get with their program.

[slorch]

having that many kids is not that big of a deal. We just don't understand how you could have all of them at your own house.

signed,
Shawn Kemp
Ricky Williams
Travis Henry

[BandidoNB]

woah.. loose like a goose

[KT2000]

Nice strategy by the mom and dad. They've got some yardworkers and dishwashers lined up for eternity.

I only hope all the kids are either academic geniuses and/or business prodigies. 18 college educations + 18 diaper cycles...18 terrible twos...18 teenage cycles.

OK, the strategy is losing luster.

[AE 8008]

woah.. loose like a goose

like throwin a hot dog down a hallway

[GoOwls]

like throwin a hot dog down a hallway

That's tacky.....everyone knows a qualified obstetrician can put a hellacious "daddy stitch" on after the birth.....as good or better than before.....;)

[Favpack]

[/B]

True...I hear you....but remember, before early part of the 20th century, most families were that way......it was the rural way of life.

What we now-a-days call "having a life" was unheard of a relatively short time ago.

Just a century ago, having 10 kids or more was a way of life.....a necessary way of life.

Just putting things in perspective

Ok, you're really dating yourself now. :D

[CoveMom]

Ya'll know my "people" are from Arkansas, right? RURAL Arkansas to be exact. ;)

[Favpack]

Ya'll know my "people" are from Arkansas, right? RURAL Arkansas to be exact. ;)

Not much to do there, huh?

[slorch]

rural arkansas is redundant, don't you think?

[Favpack]

rural arkansas is redundant, don't you think?

That's funny....Do you count people inside a Wal-Mart at the time of Census?

[slorch]

That's funny....Do you count people inside a Wal-Mart at the time of Census?

depends on whether you're Democrat or not...:D

[CoveMom]

depends on whether you're Democrat or not...:D

no, no, no. that's the cemetary precinct. ya'll don't know nuttin' 'bout nuttin'

[CoveMom]

Not much to do there, huh?

apparently these two found a pastime. :eek:

wonder if she has any teeth left?*



(*old wives tale: you lose one tooth per child born)

[slorch]

apparently these two found a pastime. :eek:

wonder if she has any teeth left?*



(*old wives tale: you lose one tooth per child born)

I don't think she has time to get up and brush her teeth...:rolleyes:

[okt0ber]

[/b]

True...I hear you....but remember, before early part of the 20th century, most families were that way......it was the rural way of life.

What we now-a-days call "having a life" was unheard of a relatively short time ago.

Just a century ago, having 10 kids or more was a way of life.....a necessary way of life.

Just putting things in perspective

uhh riiight... which is why we've advanced since then, because people didn't like that level of quality of life..

[mad_fan]

apparently these two found a pastime. :eek:

wonder if she has any teeth left?*



(*old wives tale: you lose one tooth per child born)


* Glad you explained that...I was thinking Odontophobia...:eek:

[GoOwls]

uhh riiight... which is why we've advanced since then, because people didn't like that level of quality of life..

One mans advance is another mans degredation of society....;)

[slorch]

One mans advance is another mans degredation of society....;)

I agree. look at today's family structure, in general, in America. No, it isn't all bad, but there is plenty o' bad out there. The days of the nucular(sic) family all living in one house had many positive side effects, as opposed to some of the situations that persist today.

[Firebird]

A century ago there was about a 25% infant mortality rate. Many more died from childhood diseases. That's a main reason that people had so many kids. The other reason was that without things like tractors, families needed help around the farm or more hands at the factory. People didn't have huge families by choice, it was a necessity to scrape by. It wasn't all Laura Elizabeth and Nellie Olsen quarreling with each other in an idyllic setting. Laura Elizabeth probably had several dead siblings and would leave school as soon as she was more useful on the farm. In the cities, those big families didn't all gather round the table while Pa said grace and ate some of Ma's home cooking. Little fingers worked 12 hour days at the textile mills. You gotta get past the "Little House on the Prarie" ideal, GoOwls.

In the modern world, the places with the highest birthrates are also those with the most rampant poverty illiteracy. Seriously, take a look at the top ten. With education and progress, birthrates go down.

[GoOwls]

A century ago there was about a 25% infant mortality rate. Many more died from childhood diseases. That's a main reason that people had so many kids. The other reason was that without things like tractors, families needed help around the farm or more hands at the factory. People didn't have huge families by choice, it was a necessity to scrape by. It wasn't all Laura Elizabeth and Nellie Olsen quarreling with each other in an idyllic setting. Laura Elizabeth probably had several dead siblings and would leave school as soon as she was more useful on the farm. In the cities, those big families didn't all gather round the table while Pa said grace and ate some of Ma's home cooking. Little fingers worked 12 hour days at the textile mills. You gotta get past the "Little House on the Prarie" ideal, GoOwls.

In the modern world, the places with the highest birthrates are also those with the most rampant poverty illiteracy. Seriously, take a look at the top ten. With education and progress, birthrates go down.

True...I hear you....but remember, before early part of the 20th century, most families were that way......it was the rural way of life.

What we now-a-days call "having a life" was unheard of a relatively short time ago.

Just a century ago, having 10 kids or more was a way of life.....a necessary way of life.

Just putting things in perspective

Bird....please tell me where there is a "Little House on the Prairie" ideal here? I made some statements...FACTUAL statements....even said it was a necessary way of life, much like you did, but without all the pontifications.

I just stated it was different back then. I think it was a better time. Maybe you city folk see it different, but the stories related to me by grandparents, great-aunts and uncles, and many of aging people my family knew in the farmlands of the 60's, let me know that even though the time were indeed tough, they were better because the family was the centerpiece of the existance and they worked together....no one starved....no one wanted.....they made sure family took care of family.

If we had any semblance of that kind of family today, we wouldn't need the Social Security system in the way we need it today....it would be drastically reduced.

However, today, kids have too much to do....no time for the old ones....so they get everything in their name so the Govt. doesn't get it and ship mom or dad off to the old folks home to die.

From the 60's on back that didn't happen to people with family...they got took care of till they died.....it only happened to people who didn't have family....now days, family can't wait for the opportunity to get you out of your house so they can sell it and put you in the old folks home.....I see it happen to my customers all the time.....don't tell me the world hasn't changed for the worse...ethically.

[Firebird]

True...I hear you....but remember, before early part of the 20th century, most families were that way......it was the rural way of life.

What we now-a-days call "having a life" was unheard of a relatively short time ago.

Just a century ago, having 10 kids or more was a way of life.....a necessary way of life.

Just putting things in perspective

Bird....please tell me where there is a "Little House on the Prairie" ideal here? I made some statements...FACTUAL statements....even said it was a necessary way of life, much like you did, but without all the pontifications.

I just stated it was different back then. I think it was a better time. Maybe you city folk see it different, but the stories related to me by grandparents, great-aunts and uncles, and many of aging people my family knew in the farmlands of the 60's, let me know that even though the time were indeed tough, they were better because the family was the centerpiece of the existance and they worked together....no one starved....no one wanted.....they made sure family took care of family.

If we had any semblance of that kind of family today, we wouldn't need the Social Security system in the way we need it today....it would be drastically reduced.

However, today, kids have too much to do....no time for the old ones....so they get everything in their name so the Govt. doesn't get it and ship mom or dad off to the old folks home to die.

From the 60's on back that didn't happen to people with family...they got took care of till they died.....it only happened to people who didn't have family....now days, family can't wait for the opportunity to get you out of your house so they can sell it and put you in the old folks home.....I see it happen to my customers all the time.....don't tell me the world hasn't changed for the worse...ethically.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Do you really think that poverty and hunger were less prevalent back in the old days? I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn? Of course, many of the folks that tell you stories never ventured into the parts of town (or the share-cropping fields) where hunger and want was prevalent.

What's changed for the worse, ethically? That black people are recognized as citizens? That we outlawed child labor? Outlawed the company store? Giving women the vote? Yeah, we're going backwards all right:rolleyes:

[CedarHillDad]

uhh riiight... which is why we've advanced since then, because people didn't like that level of quality of life..

coming from a large family, my maternal Grandmother had 17 kids(2 died in childbirth) 15 still living my paternal grandmother had 7 kids(5 still living). It was actually nice growing up family around all the time. My best friend is my cousin.

[GoOwls]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Do you really think that poverty and hunger were less prevalent back in the old days? I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn? Of course, many of the folks that tell you stories never ventured into the parts of town (or the share-cropping fields) where hunger and want was prevalent.

What's changed for the worse, ethically? That black people are recognized as citizens? That we outlawed child labor? Outlawed the company store? Giving women the vote? Yeah, we're going backwards all right:rolleyes:

What part of my post do you not understand?

I said those that had family took care of each other. They got hungry from time to time, but nobody got left behind...nobody starved...no old people got thrown in a home.

People who have family now are getting more detached from each other....in many cases, family is your worst enemy now because they destroy you from inside...right under your nose.

I'm not talkng about your broad political issues, I'm talking about pure human decency and how we treat our own family members.....those ethics.

Take off the wide angle lens and look where I'm talking.

Think extended family unit.....

[JMSFan]

coming from a large family, my maternal Grandmother had 17 kids(2 died in childbirth) 15 still living my paternal grandmother had 7 kids(5 still living). It was actually nice growing up family around all the time. My best friend is my cousin.

That is really similar to my family. My maternal grandparents had 7 children, and my paternal grandparents had 8. Between my aunts and uncles on both sides of my family, there are close to 75 first cousins, and throughout most of my childhood we were all a very close family.

[CedarHillDad]

What part of my post do you not understand?

I said those that had family took care of each other. They got hungry from time to time, but nobody got left behind...nobody starved...no old people got thrown in a home.

People who have family now are getting more detached from each other....in many cases, family is your worst enemy now because they destroy you from inside...right under your nose.
I'm not talkng about your broad political issues, I'm talking about pure human decency and how we treat our own family members.....those ethics.

Take off the wide angle lens and look where I'm talking.

Think extended family unit.....
I hear you on those points

[CedarHillDad]

That is really similar to my family. My maternal grandparents had 7 children, and my paternal grandparents had 8. Between my aunts and uncles on both sides of my family, there are close to 75 first cousins, and throughout most of my childhood we were all a very close family.

It's nice to be able to go to almost any state in the union and have family:D

Seriously though, I thought large families was the norm until I got older and realized all families were not like mine.

sidenote: my first wife's grandmother had 22 kids Mrs. Duggan(I think that is her name) has a few to go.

[dada]

coming from a large family, my maternal Grandmother had 17 kids(2 died in childbirth) 15 still living my paternal grandmother had 7 kids(5 still living). It was actually nice growing up family around all the time. My best friend is my cousin.

Same here, My grandmother had 10 girls and 3 boys......growing up, we really didnt need "Friends" because there were more than enough cousins going around. I also knew a lady that had 9 boys and 9 girls.....the difference now is some people my have 18 kids by 18 different women....back then, all kids were products of a MARRIED couple.

[RedRage00]

Same here, My grandmother had 10 girls and 3 boys......growing up, we really didnt need "Friends" because there were more than enough cousins going around. I also knew a lady that had 9 boys and 9 girls.....the difference now is some people my have 18 kids by 18 different women....back then, all kids were products of a MARRIED couple.

True dat. My mom is the oldest of 12....all from the same married couple.