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GRP05
10-25-2005, 04:35 PM
So far, Berkner's looking pretty good- not much of a passing game, but great rushing. I know they haven't faced any truly great teams yet, but how do you guys think they'll match up late in the playoffs (3rd rnd.)?
BHS0005
10-25-2005, 04:44 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
GTown02
10-25-2005, 04:49 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
But your defense can lose those same games... scoring is easy, stopping the other team can be a challenge.
Redneckn
10-25-2005, 05:54 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
Will win games until you get up against a team that passes like crazy and has a half way presentable defense. Then, you're gonna be screwed. A good pass team will not let you control the clock by running. Once they make you punt a few times, it's over.
travisk44
10-25-2005, 06:01 PM
I think they'll lose in the 2nd round to the Rowlett-Rockwall/Longview winner.
GarlandOwl06
10-25-2005, 07:15 PM
Berkener better be praying to God Mesquite Horn doesn't make the playoffs which is the most likely thing to happen right now according to 12-5a fans on here
AllenEagle06
10-25-2005, 07:48 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
For years? You obviously weren't around in the 2002/2003 8-5A district when Berkner was with Allen and Plano East. I think they barely slipped into the playoffs in 2003.
GoOwls
10-25-2005, 07:54 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
I wasn't aware that you guys had won state championships....ever. Obviously somebody stopped you, the first time you played a top-to-bottom talented team, as it will be this year.
It's easy flipping pancakes.....try flipping an 800 lb. gorilla. :D
BHS0005
10-25-2005, 09:44 PM
Yeah, in 2003 Berkner made the 3rd playoff spot. That was the year the program turned around. Richardson is home of 4 schools in the area.... Berkner, Richardson, Pearce, Lake Highlands... imagine us all combine... just like how Allen and SLC is. It's not honestly fair when you have one city (Allen) with only one school to go to.
BHS0005
10-25-2005, 09:49 PM
GarlandOwl06
Berkener better be praying to God Mesquite Horn doesn't make the playoffs which is the most likely thing to happen right now according to 12-5a fans on here
We beat Mesquite Horn already, what are you talking about. We shut down their runningback. And we shut down Pearce's who ran for 357 yards the game before. Don't underestimate us.. we are a cinderall team ;)
GoOwls
10-25-2005, 10:16 PM
Yeah, in 2003 Berkner made the 3rd playoff spot. That was the year the program turned around. Richardson is home of 4 schools in the area.... Berkner, Richardson, Pearce, Lake Highlands... imagine us all combine... just like how Allen and SLC is. It's not honestly fair when you have one city (Allen) with only one school to go to.
Lake Highlands has won state with all those teams in place. Garland won in '99 with 6 schools in the district. Mesquite won with 4 schools in the district. Allen has never won state.
What's you guys excuse? LAME!!!
GoOwls
10-25-2005, 10:21 PM
GarlandOwl06
Berkener better be praying to God Mesquite Horn doesn't make the playoffs which is the most likely thing to happen right now according to 12-5a fans on here
We beat Mesquite Horn already, what are you talking about. We shut down their runningback. And we shut down Pearce's who ran for 357 yards the game before. Don't underestimate us.. we are a cinderall team ;)
I think he means that if Horn makes the playoffs, you guys will have to play Longview in the first round, and woe be unto you guys as the butt whipping will commence, and it won't be you guys giving it either, you'll be on the receiving end.
Go Horn!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
DragonFan
10-25-2005, 10:31 PM
Yeah, in 2003 Berkner made the 3rd playoff spot. That was the year the program turned around. Richardson is home of 4 schools in the area.... Berkner, Richardson, Pearce, Lake Highlands... imagine us all combine... just like how Allen and SLC is. It's not honestly fair when you have one city (Allen) with only one school to go to.
SLC is one of the smallest 5A schools. In our district we are the 5th largest school. The only way SLC goes Div 1 is if the other 2 smaller schools make the playoffs. (what does that say for the large population schools?) Just because you are the largest population school does not mean that you will win.
GarlandOwl06
10-25-2005, 10:35 PM
I think he means that if Horn makes the playoffs, you guys will have to play Longview in the first round, and woe be unto you guys as the butt whipping will commence, and it won't be you guys giving it either, you'll be on the receiving end.
Go Horn!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
LOLOL thank you for clearing that up GoOwls, hilarious post. And yes, woe be upon unto you if you go on a collision course with Longview 2nd round. :eek:
GTown02
10-26-2005, 01:15 AM
LOLOL thank you for clearing that up GoOwls, hilarious post. And yes, woe be upon unto you if you go on a collision course with Longview 2nd round. :eek:
Hopefully we dont have to meet them in the first round! :D
GoOwls
10-26-2005, 01:17 AM
Amen, brother!!! :D
CCBoy
10-26-2005, 07:03 AM
Yeah, in 2003 Berkner made the 3rd playoff spot. That was the year the program turned around. Richardson is home of 4 schools in the area.... Berkner, Richardson, Pearce, Lake Highlands... imagine us all combine... just like how Allen and SLC is. It's not honestly fair when you have one city (Allen) with only one school to go to.
In Oakcliff, we have Carter, Kimball, SOC,and the suburban schools like Duncanville, Desoto, Lancaster, all six schools in about a five mile radius of each other. It is no excuse. Everywhere you go population is bringing in more schools. I would love to see those teams combine, but it won't happen. Play the the game with the cards that were dealt.
Carter Cowboy
10-26-2005, 09:05 AM
Don't underestimate us.. we are a cinderall team ;)[/QUOTE]
what's a cinderall team??? :D
just poking at ya.....good to have that school spirit! just don't get cocky. :cool:
Eagle81
10-26-2005, 10:23 AM
For years? You obviously weren't around in the 2002/2003 8-5A district when Berkner was with Allen and Plano East. I think they barely slipped into the playoffs in 2003.
And they haven't missed the playoffs since. Fact of the matter is, everyone knows what they are. They run the ball and play decent defense. I agree when they run into a really good team (i.e. Tylere Lee last year) they will more than likely lose. But I don't see that happening until at least the 3rd round when (based on projections) would more than likely be A&M Consolidated, The Woodlands, or Austin Westlake. My personal opinion is, that they will beat Rowlett or Rockwall. Maybe not, but in my opinion they will.
dragonfootballfan
10-26-2005, 10:57 AM
Yeah, in 2003 Berkner made the 3rd playoff spot. That was the year the program turned around. Richardson is home of 4 schools in the area.... Berkner, Richardson, Pearce, Lake Highlands... imagine us all combine... just like how Allen and SLC is. It's not honestly fair when you have one city (Allen) with only one school to go to.
SLC has one of the smallest schools 5A schools in the area. Their is no advantage that carroll has by having one school in the town. Carroll is at a disadvantage to most of the 5A schools in the state by having a lot less students
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 06:09 PM
well SLC junior highs go to one high school and run the same playbooks. For Berkner, we had 3 junior highs, Apollo, Liberty, and Richardson. Many of our students even went to Magnet schools around us such as West. When high school came, most of apollo and liberty went to berkner, while the richardson jr high students could decide if they wanted to go to richardson or berkner. We had a hard time getting ALL the talent there was around our area until Ledford came as our coach. The athletes we have are as good as any other school, especially considering what we have available for them. I use to like Garland, but now since I met you guys I want yall to lose in the first round. And i hope you feel the same way. If only yall were in division 1, we could maybe play yall lol and show yall what we are about. But thats not goin to happen.
GarlandOwl06
10-26-2005, 06:15 PM
Yup instead you get to play longview in the second round...... thats soo much better ;)
The only reason people are coming at you, and it aint just Garland fans, is because you have been talking like Berkner is on just another level of football as everyone else...... instead of just looking at both sides your just sounding like the biggest homer
LoboFan07
10-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Berkner is a good football team....for 10-5A.
I wouldn't mind playing Berkner in the 2nd round..except for the fact I don't want to go Division 1. I rather go Division 2 and get a shot at revenge againist South Garland for 2003.
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 09:24 PM
go to www.berknerfootball.com
then go to football highlights and check out the games.
dragonsdaddy
10-26-2005, 09:38 PM
your coach has definitely done a great job in a traditionally dormant program. i suspect others have noticed and will offer him a job he can't refuse real soon.
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 10:01 PM
Doubt it considering he's the athletic director of Berkner, his wife is a counselor at Berkner, and his kids are growing up at schools that will go to berkner.
dragons08
10-26-2005, 10:04 PM
berkner..their band director gave us a one at UIL the othernight, he must be a pretty cool guy! :D
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 10:04 PM
Doubt it considering he's the athletic director of Berkner, his wife is a counselor at Berkner, and his kids are growing up at schools that will go to berkner. He wouldnt want to go to SLC anyways ;)
dragons08
10-26-2005, 10:06 PM
woah, double post but not
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 11:13 PM
maybe bc your band isnt good??? idk.. also Berkner is one of the best bands in texas
GarlandOwl06
10-26-2005, 11:15 PM
maybe bc your band isnt good??? idk.. also Berkner is one of the best bands in texas
What in the world are you talking about?? And who brought up the Berkner band? Is there anything in the state that Berkner isnt the best at?
BHS0005
10-26-2005, 11:19 PM
they're good at football and basketball. What does Garland do in basketball?? nothin at all... you talk to much crap man.
GarlandOwl06
10-26-2005, 11:23 PM
they're good at football and basketball. What does Garland do in basketball?? nothin at all... you talk to much crap man.
Lol you can ask anyone on this board who the biggest homer is and they will all laugh and say you. You dont need to be telling anyone they talk too much crap until you take back the comment about BERKNER being one of the best (if not the best) team in Texas!!!! Yes, you actually said that. That is rediculous. You also had the guts to say you have one of the greatest districts in the state when litterally there are NO good teams. Actually, 10-5a may be one of the worst in the state...ask anyone who knows...and stop being such a homer.
GarlandOwl06
10-26-2005, 11:24 PM
they're good at football and basketball. What does Garland do in basketball?? nothin at all... you talk to much crap man.
Oh and by the way Ike Diagou was just drafted 8th overall in the NBA draft. Who does Berkner have in the pros right now? Good point though...
GoOwls
10-27-2005, 12:06 AM
Oh and by the way Ike Diagou was just drafted 8th overall in the NBA draft. Who does Berkner have in the pros right now? Good point though...
Yep, Ike Diogu was drafted 8th overall and is a monster. Was a great basketball player at GARLAND HIGH, as were the very talented NBA guard, Mookie Blaylock, and the twice elected NBA 6th Man of the Year and 3 time NBA All-Star, Ricky Pierce.
Yep, Garland sucks at basketball too. :D
Kids from other schools, who know nothing, should Google before they open their mouths. :D
Let's hear that storied list of Berkner players in the NBA? The silence is deafening.
BHS0005
10-27-2005, 03:05 PM
I'm not talking about last 35 years. I'm talking about the last 2 years. Don't get mad because Berkner is doing better than Garland in football and basketball. Berkner went couple rounds deep in basketball and went 2 rounds deep last year in football. And Garland?? it sucks man. We beat skyline in both the football and basketball playoffs ( CJ Miles included). Good for Ike Diogu, i like the guy. I like Garland, i jus dont like yall. I think it's funny how you come to a Berkner thread and then talk trash. And i was only kidding about 10-5a being a good district. Other than Berkner, Lake Highlands, and maybe Pearce, the district is horrible. Good luck in the playoffs. And hopefully we don't get Longview in the second round bcuz i dont want an early exit.
GTown02
10-27-2005, 03:13 PM
I'm not talking about last 35 years. I'm talking about the last 2 years. Don't get mad because Berkner is doing better than Garland in football and basketball. Berkner went couple rounds deep in basketball and went 2 rounds deep last year in football. And Garland?? it sucks man. We beat skyline in both the football and basketball playoffs ( CJ Miles included). Good for Ike Diogu, i like the guy. I like Garland, i jus dont like yall. I think it's funny how you come to a Berkner thread and then talk trash. And i was only kidding about 10-5a being a good district. Other than Berkner, Lake Highlands, and maybe Pearce, the district is horrible. Good luck in the playoffs. And hopefully we don't get Longview in the second round bcuz i dont want an early exit.
You think going two rounds is GOOD? We have to play one of the top districts in the first round, who do you guys play first round? Plano schools? I would love to see Berkner go against Lufkin, Longview, and Tyler Lee for the past 3 seasons and get ONE win.... it wouldnt happen and everyone here knows it...
The Lone Ranger
10-27-2005, 08:12 PM
well SLC junior highs go to one high school and run the same playbooks. For Berkner, we had 3 junior highs, Apollo, Liberty, and Richardson. Many of our students even went to Magnet schools around us such as West. When high school came, most of apollo and liberty went to berkner, while the richardson jr high students could decide if they wanted to go to richardson or berkner. We had a hard time getting ALL the talent there was around our area until Ledford came as our coach. The athletes we have are as good as any other school, especially considering what we have available for them. I use to like Garland, but now since I met you guys I want yall to lose in the first round. And i hope you feel the same way. If only yall were in division 1, we could maybe play yall lol and show yall what we are about. But thats not goin to happen.
Carroll will go DI, but Berkner won't play them because I doubt Berkner will win the region.
Berkner has an enrollment of 4000. Carroll has an enrollment of 2200. Berkner has TWO junior high schools (RJHS has closed). Carroll has one. But since Berkner is twice as big, that makes sense. And students couldn't choose their school at RJHS...their high school was based on the elementary school that they went to.
Berkner has more students. They should be better. But they aren't. There is no way you can claim to be as good as Carroll.
BHS0005
10-28-2005, 02:17 PM
First of all, I go to berkner so don't tell me how many students we have. We have 3000, and about 1000 of them are freshman. SO that leave's 2000 for soph, jr, and sr. And why are you even posting up anything. All i was doing is comparing how we get kids to our schools.
berkner will reck this year
The Lone Ranger
10-28-2005, 02:25 PM
You think going two rounds is GOOD? We have to play one of the top districts in the first round, who do you guys play first round? Plano schools? I would love to see Berkner go against Lufkin, Longview, and Tyler Lee for the past 3 seasons and get ONE win.... it wouldnt happen and everyone here knows it...
No, it's worse than Plano...they play DISD. As the only good FB program in 5A from DISD is the smallest in the district, Berkner shouldn't have any challenge from Skyline. However, the Rockwall/Rowlett winner could prove tricky.
BHS03
10-28-2005, 02:48 PM
BHS0005 whoever you are, for the sake of people like me please stop. It's idiots like you who make my alma mater look bad. I'm tired of seeing new threads with Berkner in the header, only to be disappointed with mindess drivel.
Just for the record:
- a rating of one is the highest rating possible in UIL competition. Good job to
the SLC band.
- Berkner's band does have a strong history of excellence, and is a state-finals regular. Not everything this guy says is through rose-colored glasses.
- Berkner is a very talented team stuck in a very weak district. Nothing more can be deduced from these facts alone. Paper is just that, paper. Thats why the games are played; on any given Friday.
- For everyone wasting their time jumping on BHS0005, stop it. Please. Go post something productive, I've been reading this forum long enough to know that you can.
REL-76
10-28-2005, 03:52 PM
Teams that played Berkner for years now haven't found out how to stop their offense, why do you think a team that has never seen the offensive style as ours can stop us? Berkner's offense will win us games.
For years? How about last year against Tyler Lee? Total Berkner Offense was 36 yards...the Berkner D was the only way they scored and that was a blocked punt with less than a min on the board...
BHS0005
10-29-2005, 04:31 PM
I'm talking about in the district. Anyways, BHS03, we don't need your opinion on here if you are only going to try to make other people seem less. It's people like you that ruin threads. Even though this may seem weird, I hope that mesquite horn will make the playoffs, making our second round matchup probably against Longview. I want a challenge this year.
GarlandOwl06
10-29-2005, 06:22 PM
A challenge that you wont be able to handle :D
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