25 5a vs. 26 5a Playoff Pedictions

[Hunting82]

If the playoffs started today the matchups would be:

Clemens vs. Churchill

Smithson Valley vs. San Marcos

Madison vs. Seguin

Thoughts?

[lonny23]

If the playoffs started today the matchups would be:

Clemens vs. Churchill

Smithson Valley vs. San Marcos

Madison vs. Seguin

Thoughts?
Clemens
Smithson Valley
Madison

[Hunting82]

I think San Marcos beats SV especially if they take an early lead

[RedRage00]

San Marcos could beat SV...SV is overrated. They have not impressed me at all this season. 265 was not that strong this season.

SV fans know they aren't as great as last season or they would be on here talking all the smack like they were last season LOL :D

RR

[bubbacoach]

You guys are basing these predictions on Clemens going Div. 2. The numbers that they are putting out right now will effect the reditricting, but I am pretty sure they will not effect the playoffs this year. If Clemens goes D1 they will then face Madison. The other two matchups would also change with San Marcos facing Churchill and Seguin facing Smithson Valley. The UIL, as far as I know has never done a recount for the playoffs in mid season. I have been in the playoffs 9 times in the 10 years I have been coaching and I am pretty sure it does not happen.

[Hunting82]

Clemens is going division 2, seguin will go division 1

[SeguinMatadors]

You guys are basing these predictions on Clemens going Div. 2. The numbers that they are putting out right now will effect the reditricting, but I am pretty sure they will not effect the playoffs this year. If Clemens goes D1 they will then face Madison. The other two matchups would also change with San Marcos facing Churchill and Seguin facing Smithson Valley. The UIL, as far as I know has never done a recount for the playoffs in mid season. I have been in the playoffs 9 times in the 10 years I have been coaching and I am pretty sure it does not happen.

It seems unlikely to me too. I mean, even though their attendence dropped I am sure all of the varsity caliber football players stayed at Clemens so that they could play; therefore they really don't lose anything by the drop in attendence. Idk how it is going to work out but I sure like the way things look if we go D1.

[Bucky]

I think San Marcos beats SV especially if they take an early lead

I think SM beats SV especially if they score more points. :cool:

[Bucky]

I think San Marcos beats SV especially if they take an early lead

I think SM beats SV especially if they score more points. :cool: Just messing with you. I dont think SM can beat SV.reguardless of who scores first!!

But I've been wrong before.

[buffbacker]

You guys are basing these predictions on Clemens going Div. 2. The numbers that they are putting out right now will effect the reditricting, but I am pretty sure they will not effect the playoffs this year. If Clemens goes D1 they will then face Madison. The other two matchups would also change with San Marcos facing Churchill and Seguin facing Smithson Valley. The UIL, as far as I know has never done a recount for the playoffs in mid season. I have been in the playoffs 9 times in the 10 years I have been coaching and I am pretty sure it does not happen.


Clemens coaches say they are going D2. If anyone knows for sure it is the coaches.

[rattlerbacker]

Clemens will be going Div. 2. I thought that all got settled in the threads about it a couple of weeks ago. If there's still any doubt in your mind, go check the "revised" 5A enrollment figures at the UIL website. Its a done deal that Clemens is going Div. 2 and Seguin is going Div. 1. Check with any of the coaching staffs involved and they'll confirm it.

UIL revised 5A enrollment figures (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/5A_EnrollmentData.pdf)

[SeguinMatadors]

Clemens will be going Div. 2. I thought that all got settled in the threads about it a couple of weeks ago. If there's still any doubt in your mind, go check the "revised" 5A enrollment figures at the UIL website. Its a done deal that Clemens is going Div. 2 and Seguin is going Div. 1. Check with any of the coaching staffs involved and they'll confirm it.

UIL revised 5A enrollment figures (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/5A_EnrollmentData.pdf)

Thanks. I guess it is a done deal then.

[Pantherfan12]

Clemens will be going Div. 2. I thought that all got settled in the threads about it a couple of weeks ago. If there's still any doubt in your mind, go check the "revised" 5A enrollment figures at the UIL website. Its a done deal that Clemens is going Div. 2 and Seguin is going Div. 1. Check with any of the coaching staffs involved and they'll confirm it.

UIL revised 5A enrollment figures (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/5A_EnrollmentData.pdf)

And in the 2nd Round of Div 1 it would be O'Connor vs the 25/26 Div 1 winner, not Jay...Jay would flow to Div 2 as O'Connors enrollment is listed at 3166....

Can't wait....and I feel real bad that Judson is not there....Sorry Lonny..

GO PANTHERS>>>

[GoRangers]

I think San Marcos beats SV especially if they take an early lead

Homework: Go find the last time SM beat SV.

[TexasRed6x]

It will be a clean sweep for 26-5a. By the time playoffs start Churchill might be playing as good of football as Madison and SV. Do not count out Churchill they did beat both Sv and Judson this year. The loss of Henry will hurt Clemens chances, even though they won big last week.

[Rerun]

It will be a clean sweep for 26-5a. By the time playoffs start Churchill might be playing as good of football as Madison and SV. Do not count out Churchill they did beat both Sv and Judson this year. The loss of Henry will hurt Clemens chances, even though they won big last week.

Clemens aint losin anytime soon unless their entire defense gets injured.

Their Defense is their bread and butter. Robinson will step up and fill some of what Henry left and their passing game will open up more. Reechard Reeves is a very solid playmaker - running, passing- he does it all.

Clemens will continue to roll I think.

They have everything to lose yet nothing to lose now that Henry is out and people are calling their season over because of it.

Heart of a champion.

East Central first, then Seguin, then whoever comes out of 26-5A. That is how the Buffs will take it.

Clemens is deep and has a T-E-A-M.

[TexasRed6x]

Clemens aint losin anytime soon unless their entire defense gets injured.

Their Defense is their bread and butter. Robinson will step up and fill some of what Henry left and their passing game will open up more. Reechard Reeves is a very solid playmaker - running, passing- he does it all.

Clemens will continue to roll I think.

They have everything to lose yet nothing to lose now that Henry is out and people are calling their season over because of it.

Heart of a champion.

East Central first, then Seguin, then whoever comes out of 26-5A. That is how the Buffs will take it.

Clemens is deep and has a T-E-A-M.

Don't get me wrong here I don't dislike Clemens, I just don't think they have played anyone maybe with the exception of SM, which is only one team. At this time I do not know what divison Clemens is going in, but if you want to win a state title them best hope div 2. IF you do go Div then forget about it, all the stud teams are winding up Div 1 and Clemens is no stud compared to them. (Westfield, Katy, SLC, ET, NS)

[zippy]

Dude, I did not think SV would even make the playoffs last year, and neither did anyone else. And for your information, which other district in this fine state is better than 265? NONE. Aside from Judson, it is tougher than it was last year by far. All the teams except 1 is playing very good football this year.

San Marcos could beat SV...SV is overrated. They have not impressed me at all this season. 265 was not that strong this season.

SV fans know they aren't as great as last season or they would be on here talking all the smack like they were last season LOL :D

RR

[Haysrebels#1]

i storngly believe clemens will make it to the finals because of the way they have manhandled so many good teams,i think seguin will be decidinig what they can do

[Rerun]

Clemens is D2. This is fact.

[sendero]

And in the 2nd Round of Div 1 it would be O'Connor vs the 25/26 Div 1 winner, not Jay...Jay would flow to Div 2 as O'Connors enrollment is listed at 3166....

Can't wait....and I feel real bad that Judson is not there....Sorry Lonny..

GO PANTHERS>>>


Man where have all you 27-5A guys been all year? :)

[clemensbuff]

It will be a clean sweep for 26-5a. By the time playoffs start Churchill might be playing as good of football as Madison and SV. Do not count out Churchill they did beat both Sv and Judson this year. The loss of Henry will hurt Clemens chances, even though they won big last week.

I think you are sadly mistaken on the sweep by 26-5a this year! If you are basing your opinion on the sweep last year and you haven't watched any of these teams play, then I can see why you would post this opinion. Come out and watch Clemens play Seguin next week or catch a SM game and you might change your opinion!

I saw the Churchill / Judson game and can tell you that Clemens would man-handle the Rockets and also beat Churchill who already beat SV. I am not a dreamer and think that because team A beats B and A beat C etc, that is a bunch of hogwash! I'm basing my opinion from watching Churchill play and by what they can do. Don't get me wrong, Churchill could beat Clemens if we played a bad game and they played a good game, but on an average night we would beat them by 14!

[clemensbuff]

Don't get me wrong here I don't dislike Clemens, I just don't think they have played anyone maybe with the exception of SM, which is only one team. At this time I do not know what divison Clemens is going in, but if you want to win a state title them best hope div 2. IF you do go Div then forget about it, all the stud teams are winding up Div 1 and Clemens is no stud compared to them. (Westfield, Katy, SLC, ET, NS)

Roosevelt wasn't missing 6 starters when we played them and we dominated them the entire game! Also, Waco didn't quite look like the horrible record they have last week when the took Copperas Cove to triple OT and the last time I looked CC was ranked above Clemens in the polls!!!

[HOOKEM]

Clemens aint losin anytime soon unless their entire defense gets injured.

Their Defense is their bread and butter. Robinson will step up and fill some of what Henry left and their passing game will open up more. Reechard Reeves is a very solid playmaker - running, passing- he does it all.

Clemens will continue to roll I think.

They have everything to lose yet nothing to lose now that Henry is out and people are calling their season over because of it.

Heart of a champion.

East Central first, then Seguin, then whoever comes out of 26-5A. That is how the Buffs will take it.

Clemens is deep and has a T-E-A-M.

I to think 265a in a sweep. you have to score to win. Not sure clemens can without henry

[Rerun]

I to think 265a in a sweep. you have to score to win. Not sure clemens can without henry


they just did. 34 on Friday vs. San Marcos all without Henry.

[Rerun]

Yea, they beat San Marcos. The same team that beat Madison, this year's 26-5A king. Using simple logic, you can do the math.

[mad_fan]

Yea, they beat San Marcos. The same team that beat Madison, this year's 26-5A king. Using simple logic, you can do the math.

That's the way it always works?...Churchill beat SV, Madison beat Churchill, therefore....I'll sleep better tonight. :)

[clemensbuff]

I to think 265a in a sweep. you have to score to win. Not sure clemens can without henry

We scored 4 TDs last week without him!

[clemensbuff]

That's the way it always works?...Churchill beat SV, Madison beat Churchill, therefore....I'll sleep better tonight. :)

Maybe that just means that we have two teams in 25-5a this year better than all the teams in 26-5a! Did you think of that? LOL

[mad_fan]

Maybe that just means that we have two teams in 25-5a this year better than all the teams in 26-5a! Did you think of that? LOL


Unlike Clemens, I'm not thinking about the state champion game yet. Just district! :p

[clemensbuff]

Unlike Clemens, I'm not thinking about the state champion game yet. Just district! :p

I didn't say anything about a state championship game. I'm just stating a possible fact.

I beleive that for any team to win region 4 this year they will have to play really, really good each week in the playoffs, and have a few lucky breaks go their way. And as I have stated about 400 times here, if you can get out of 26-5a, you have a damn good team and could make a heck of a run. Good luck to the three teams fighting it out for the third spot.

[mad_fan]

Okay, but I didnt type anything to inspire this response...

Maybe that just means that we have two teams in 25-5a this year better than all the teams in 26-5a! Did you think of that? LOL


I never said these werent the two best teams. I just dont know who the two best are yet. I made an observation about MADISON beating SV based on the same silly idea as another poster. It is getting to the point around some here, that you cant even say nice thing about your own team.

[bullrock]

This could be the year of the "Valley". They could come here and rain on all of your parades. From what I've observed this year, all of San Antonio is down. Judson has been the benchmark for so many years and SV has come alive in recent years. Clemens is playing good ball but the jury is still out on them because of their competition. If everyone is basing their seasons on who beat Judson by how many points then all of you will be watching La Joya or Rio Grande City or whoever comes from down there this year. They have been real quiet and I wouldn't be surprised if they catch San Antonio sleeping this year. Get mad if you want, but remember where you heard it. :o

[Pantherfan12]

Man where have all you 27-5A guys been all year? :)
Quietly watching 26-5A beat the snot out of each other. 27-5 has come down to the O'Connor and Jay show for the top two spots. OC will head to Div 1 and Jay to Div 2. Jay is quick...picked up a couple of great kids from LA. OC is really young....several Sophs and Jrs starting on both sides of the ball. Key All-District Seniors help as well. Watch the last game of District with OC and Jay....Won't change who goes where in the playoffs....but OC's undefeated District Crown will be on the line...Will be interesting to see who they match up with come playoffs....

GO PANTHERS

[clemensbuff]

Quietly watching 26-5A beat the snot out of each other. 27-5 has come down to the O'Connor and Jay show for the top two spots. OC will head to Div 1 and Jay to Div 2. Jay is quick...picked up a couple of great kids from LA. OC is really young....several Sophs and Jrs starting on both sides of the ball. Key All-District Seniors help as well. Watch the last game of District with OC and Jay....Won't change who goes where in the playoffs....but OC's undefeated District Crown will be on the line...Will be interesting to see who they match up with come playoffs....

GO PANTHERS
I'll take OC by 14 over JJ! OC has steadily improved every week in my opinion and will continue to do so! I said it about six weeks back that OC could be very good by the end of the season. But I also said that they will not be top dog in R4 this year and I'll stand by that for now. Good luck to the Panthers.

[lonny23]

i storngly believe clemens will make it to the finals because of the way they have manhandled so many good teams,i think seguin will be decidinig what they can do
Clemens played 1 decent team and beat them by 10 points. Hey, Clemens beat Roosevelt about like Judson and the Rockets are probably sitting at home in Week 11.

[Hunting82]

Clemens beat a full roosevelt team judson beat a team without 6 starters

[Hunting82]

I dont know why your trying to hate on clemens you know that if clemens and judson met clemens would wipe the floor with them

[mad_fan]

I dont know why your trying to hate on clemens you know that if clemens and judson met clemens would wipe the floor with them

That's lovin' and respect...I recognize it...I get it here all the time. :D

[Hunting82]

oh.....I apologize......thanks for clearing that up mad fan

[lonny23]

This could be the year of the "Valley". They could come here and rain on all of your parades. From what I've observed this year, all of San Antonio is down. Judson has been the benchmark for so many years and SV has come alive in recent years. Clemens is playing good ball but the jury is still out on them because of their competition. If everyone is basing their seasons on who beat Judson by how many points then all of you will be watching La Joya or Rio Grande City or whoever comes from down there this year. They have been real quiet and I wouldn't be surprised if they catch San Antonio sleeping this year. Get mad if you want, but remember where you heard it. :o
You know who it might be this year.

LAREDO NIXON! Those boys got better since Judson pounded them. 2 more names for a possible upset are CC Carroll and Victoria Memorial. Carroll has been good all year and the Vipers took off a few weeks ago.

[TexasRed6x]

I think you are sadly mistaken on the sweep by 26-5a this year! If you are basing your opinion on the sweep last year and you haven't watched any of these teams play, then I can see why you would post this opinion. Come out and watch Clemens play Seguin next week or catch a SM game and you might change your opinion!

I saw the Churchill / Judson game and can tell you that Clemens would man-handle the Rockets and also beat Churchill who already beat SV. I am not a dreamer and think that because team A beats B and A beat C etc, that is a bunch of hogwash! I'm basing my opinion from watching Churchill play and by what they can do. Don't get me wrong, Churchill could beat Clemens if we played a bad game and they played a good game, but on an average night we would beat them by 14!

I would agree, but Churchill is getting better and better each week. I would not put to much stock in the Judson game, Judson would of had a big problem beating EC then and even now. Churchill will not be a push over and you can count on that.

[clemensbuff]

Clemens played 1 decent team and beat them by 10 points. Hey, Clemens beat Roosevelt about like Judson and the Rockets are probably sitting at home in Week 11.

Ya Lonny, and you predicted that Judson would beat them by 30, didn't you? And of course when we played them they were not minus 6 starters that were booted off the team! LOL

Just another pot shot you slid in there on Clemens!

I can't figure you out for the life of me, one minute your ragging on us and the next you are saying that we have a really good team! Which one is it?

[clemensbuff]

You know who it might be this year.

LAREDO NIXON! Those boys got better since Judson pounded them. 2 more names for a possible upset are CC Carroll and Victoria Memorial. Carroll has been good all year and the Vipers took off a few weeks ago.

You better lay off whatever you are smoking over there Lonny and keep your head clear so you can keep a watch out for those pig terrorists that are still out there! Out of these three, only Victoria could beat any of the top 5 teams from SA this year and I don't think that will happen. Everybody keeps saying that the 26 is down this year, why is that? Maybe it has just become more equal between the teams and Clemens and SM are much better than last year!!!

[clemensbuff]

I would agree, but Churchill is getting better and better each week. I would not put to much stock in the Judson game, Judson would of had a big problem beating EC then and even now. Churchill will not be a push over and you can count on that.

I'll agree with you totally on the fact that Churchill is getting better. But, if Judson would have had a big problem beating EC, then that really does not make Churchill look real good only beating Judson by 14! I do beleive that the Chargers have a good defense, but I don't think their offense is that good!

[JackHandey_98]

Since everyone is bringing up common opponents.... Didnt Madison only give up 17 pts to San Marcos? Clemens has the ,so-called, best defense in the state and gave up 24 to the same team. Does that mean Madisons D is better than Clemens? :D

[JackHandey_98]

I know the response....but everyone keeps talking common opponents.

[clemensbuff]

Since everyone is bringing up common opponents.... Didnt Madison only give up 17 pts to San Marcos? Clemens has the ,so-called, best defense in the state and gave up 24 to the same team. Does that mean Madisons D is better than Clemens? :D

No, I beleive it was 31-28 SM or there abouts! And I don't beleive that anyone is claiming we have the best defense in the state. But we do have one of the best, if not the best in R4.

[clemensbuff]

I know the response....but everyone keeps talking common opponents.

Oh, and by the way, we beat SM without an all-american running back for 3 1/2 quarters of the game! LOL

[Rerun]

Talk is cheap. Remember that.

My suggestion is to leave the talking to all the washed up, has beens like myself and you go take this time you would spend online and go watch film or lift weights or run thru your neighborhood.

You fellas go out there and just win one game at a time as you all have been and leave the online bragging- you know- the meaningless stuff, to people like me.

Clemens - class of 2003

[JackHandey_98]

BuffPride06
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Re: who has the best defense in texas?

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Clemens Buffaloes, the stats say it all

[mad_fan]

No, I beleive it was 31-28 SM or there abouts! And I don't beleive that anyone is claiming we have the best defense in the state. But we do have one of the best, if not the best in R4.

Well you would guess WRONG...17-14 SM.

[mad_fan]

Oh, and by the way, we beat SM without an all-american running back for 3 1/2 quarters of the game! LOL

Sometimes others rise to the occasion, look at Churchill's 3rd and 4th QBs.

[clemensbuff]

Sometimes others rise to the occasion, look at Churchill's 3rd and 4th QBs.

That is probably the thing that really sticks out for Churchill this year along with their defense. That has been simply amazing that those kids have stepped up and taken care of business!

[clemensbuff]

Well you would guess WRONG...17-14 SM.

Man, I must have not gotten enough sleep the previous night! Blame it on the Atros! LOL Actually I haven't done a bit of laughing since the series started, more like screaming and crying! LOL

[clemensbuff]

Well you would guess WRONG...17-14 SM.

Madison's D did do a good job then! Well, I can tell you this much, if Madison meets SM again and the Rattlers play as hard as they did against Clemens last Friday, they will not hold them to 14 points. I'd bet the house on that!

[mad_fan]

Madison's D did do a good job then! Well, I can tell you this much, if Madison meets SM again and the Rattlers play as hard as they did against Clemens last Friday, they will not hold them to 14 points. I'd bet the house on that!

I'd hate to see you move out of Schertz...don't bet the house. :D

[clemensbuff]

I'd hate to see you move out of Schertz...don't bet the house. :D

I'll only leave Schertz when we buy our place out in the country! And even then, my two kids will remain in the school district because my wife will retire from teaching at SCUCISD! LOL

But, I'm telling you that SM's offense played one heck of a game against us and they can flat out control the clock and move the ball. I'll guarantee you they are a much better football team than early in the year, especially if they continue to play like they played us Friday!

[clemensbuff]

BuffPride06
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Re: who has the best defense in texas?

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Clemens Buffaloes, the stats say it all

Well JackHandey, if SV takes care of business tomorrow night at home against the Mavericks, we'll get a chance to see just how good the Rangers defense is in a couple of weeks when they meet up with SM in round 1! SV might win, might not, but I'll promise you this, they will have their hands completey full in that game! If SM gets as fired up as they were for us, and play as good as they did against us, I beleive that they will beat SV!

[JackHandey_98]

Well JackHandey, if SV takes care of business tomorrow night at home against the Mavericks, we'll get a chance to see just how good the Rangers defense is in a couple of weeks when they meet up with SM in round 1! SV might win, might not, but I'll promise you this, they will have their hands completey full in that game! If SM gets as fired up as they were for us, and play as good as they did against us, I beleive that they will beat SV!


I never brought up SV, but since we are now on the subject, SM is usually fired up when they play SV. So fired up they average two or three unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and an ejection. Im not exagerating Ive been to every SV vs. SM game and i believe a SM player has gotten ejected in at least 2 of those games. Considering theyve never beat SV i dont see how this year is as different than any other.....theyre running the same offense and SV has the same D. The Mavs should be a tougher match up for SV than SM, but I think theyll steal a close one.

[clemensbuff]

I never brought up SV, but since we are now on the subject, SM is usually fired up when they play SV. So fired up they average two or three unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and an ejection. Im not exagerating Ive been to every SV vs. SM game and i believe a SM player has gotten ejected in at least 2 of those games. Considering theyve never beat SV i dont see how this year is as different than any other.....theyre running the same offense and SV has the same D. The Mavs should be a tougher match up for SV than SM, but I think theyll steal a close one.

The reason I say they can beat SV this year is because this is possibly the best team they have ever fielded and I don't think SV is nearly as potent as last year right now! Of course with SV that could change quickly if they start to gel. Our team is vastly improved over last years team and SM gave us a heck of a game!

The same offense and the same defense has nothing to do with it. What has something to do with it is the quality of players on each and how they play!

[JackHandey_98]

The reason I say they can beat SV this year is because this is possibly the best team they have ever fielded and I don't think SV is nearly as potent as last year right now! Of course with SV that could change quickly if they start to gel. Our team is vastly improved over last years team and SM gave us a heck of a game!

The same offense and the same defense has nothing to do with it. What has something to do with it is the quality of players on each and how they play!

SM running the same offense means SV can stack the line of scrimmage and play the run. SV main problems on D this year has been the more balanced team that has the ability to throw. If its SMs same offense they dont throw more than 3 or 4 times a game and SV has been able to deal with it for the past 4 or 5 times theve played. Like others have said...Put San Marcos in a hole and they wont be able to crawl out and thats what SV has been able to do each game against them.......and I dont think the next time will be any different.

[svstate05]

i storngly believe clemens will make it to the finals because of the way they have manhandled so many good teams,i think seguin will be decidinig what they can do


name a good team other then SM that they have played.

[clemensbuff]

name a good team other then SM that they have played.

Waco took CC to triple OT just two weeks ago and Roosevelt wasn't missing 6 starters when we played them! If Roosy hadn't lost those six they would be fighting for a playoff spot right now in the 26 and we shut them down!!!

Just take care of business tonight and you'll get to prove your point in two weeks!

[lonny23]

Waco took CC to triple OT just two weeks ago and Roosevelt wasn't missing 6 starters when we played them! If Roosy hadn't lost those six they would be fighting for a playoff spot right now in the 26 and we shut them down!!!

Just take care of business tonight and you'll get to prove your point in two weeks!
Roosevelt wasn't going to be fighting for a spot even if they had those 6 guys. Waco played 1 good game. Don't make it look like they're that good.

[Hunting82]

Lonny, I dont know why you have to dog on Clemens, you should be dogging on your judson rockets for taking the year off......they suck

[lonny23]

Lonny, I dont know why you have to dog on Clemens, you should be dogging on your judson rockets for taking the year off......they suck
I dog Judson. I fired them, not Clemens. I just have to be fair and come against the false love for Clemens' schedule. San Marcos is a good team and you finally got to see that Clemens isn't head and shoulders above everybody else. It's not dogging and me being a fair correspondent. I'll praise Clemens when they play good and I praise teams with tough schedules.

[clemensbuff]

I dog Judson. I fired them, not Clemens. I just have to be fair and come against the false love for Clemens' schedule. San Marcos is a good team and you finally got to see that Clemens isn't head and shoulders above everybody else. It's not dogging and me being a fair correspondent. I'll praise Clemens when they play good and I praise teams with tough schedules.

I don't think anyone with any brains whatsoever thought that we would dominate SM like we have everyone else! The fact remains that we lost an all-american player in the first quarter and the rest of the team did not miss a beat! That in itself says what kind of team we have this year!

Exactly what do you want us to do about our schedule Lonny? We cant do a damn thing about the six district games we play and when we scheduled the four non-district games Waco, Roosevelt, and Taylor were good teams, not to mention Austin was on their way up! You keep talking about schedules and I say so what. You play your schedule and you take care of business! We will see who is correct in two weeks.

[bubbacoach]

Hey Buff I heard at the AD meeting the other day when Judson's AD asked if anybody wanted to play Judson are Wagner. Lenhoff jumped up and said, we don't want to play Judson, but we will play Wagner. What is up with that? Scared of big brother next year and want to fight little brother.

[clemensbuff]

Roosevelt wasn't going to be fighting for a spot even if they had those 6 guys. Waco played 1 good game. Don't make it look like they're that good.

I'd say you are full of it! Madison is going to the playoffs and struggled badly to win against the Riders without those 6! I haven't seen anybody blow Roosevelt out in 26-5a yet even though they kicked off 1/3 of their starters!!!!

And on Waco, take a look at their schedule and who they have lost to and also by the scores. They also are trying to get a new offense going like someone else here in the Converse area! They are full to the hilt with good athletes and could beat just about anyone on a given night if they play!

[clemensbuff]

Hey Buff I heard at the AD meeting the other day when Judson's AD asked if anybody wanted to play Judson are Wagner. Lenhoff jumped up and said, we don't want to play Judson, but we will play Wagner. What is up with that? Scared of big brother next year and want to fight little brother.

No, he wants better competition and knows that Wagner is going to be better than CJ very shortly, just like anyone else with a brain knows! LOL

[bubbacoach]

No, he wants better competition and knows that Wagner is going to be better than CJ very shortly, just like anyone else with a brain knows! LOL
Like I said before, Head west young man.

[Hunting82]

I seriously doubt lenhoff said that.....whats your source.......why would he care if clemens plays judson next year clemens will be 4a and a judson game obviously wouldnt affect the outcome in a 4a district..........I SAY PLAY THEM!!!

[bubbacoach]

I seriously doubt lenhoff said that.....whats your source.......why would he care if clemens plays judson next year clemens will be 4a and a judson game obviously wouldnt affect the outcome in a 4a district..........I SAY PLAY THEM!!!
Why must you enter me and Clemenbuffs conversation. You are young and know little. My source's are strong, as I have said before I am a coach in SA and know alot of people.

[clemensbuff]

I seriously doubt lenhoff said that.....whats your source.......why would he care if clemens plays judson next year clemens will be 4a and a judson game obviously wouldnt affect the outcome in a 4a district..........I SAY PLAY THEM!!!

I agree, because if Clemens gets blown by CJ, it's no big deal, 5a whips 4a, so what. But, if Clemens beats CJ, wow, that would look bad!! LOL

[JC73]

Why must you enter me and Clemenbuffs conversation. You are young and know little. My source's are strong, as I have said before I am a coach in SA and know alot of people.

I not trying to be critical, but why is a coach on a message board? How do you have the time?

[bubbacoach]

I not trying to be critical, but why is a coach on a message board? How do you have the time?
Conference periods. And I know several coaches on this sight.

[Hunting82]

Hey Bubbacoach, I could care less if you coach in SA.....and yes I'm young but I do not know little......don't disrespect.....and I thought everything posted on this thread was fair game if you want to have a conversation with a specific person call them on the phone otherwise shut your mouth

[JC73]

Conference periods. And I know several coaches on this sight.

I see. I just thought this sight was mostly fans, I didn't think coaches would even bother to read stuff us fans are saying. I figured they had more important things to do like getting their teams better. It is good to see coaches points of veiw on things though.

[clemensbuff]

Hey Bubbacoach, I could care less if you coach in SA.....and yes I'm young but I do not know little......don't disrespect.....and I thought everything posted on this thread was fair game if you want to have a conversation with a specific person call them on the phone otherwise shut your mouth

Bubbacoach, I beleive you the dog that you just kicked bit you hard! LOL

You go Hunting82!

I really am glad that it's not me in a argument for a change, so keep it up Hunting82!

[clemensbuff]

I see. I just thought this sight was mostly fans, I didn't think coaches would even bother to read stuff us fans are saying. I figured they had more important things to do like getting their teams better. It is good to see coaches points of veiw on things though.

I totally agree that it is nice having some coaches here. Getting their points of view is a great thing. But, please don't let it sway anyones opinion on coaches they want the heads of though! LOL Everytime someone gets on a fire that stupid SOB, the coaches here respond and we get some good stuff on the board!

[bubbacoach]

Remember this it is always easy to be a coach in the stands or at home. It is much harder to call the play or defense befor ethe play is run or defended. It is easy after you see the outcome. It drives me crazy to go to a game for pleasure or to scout and sit by most fans. They scream and holler at their coach and really have no idea what they are talking about. I took my son to a game a couple of weeks ago and sat by one of these annoying "fans". And he would yell coach why don't you cover that guy or coach why are you running the same play over and over again. Well they were running trap, counter draw, zone, midline and power. Well as all good football guys know these plays will all hit inside, the man getting the ball and the blocking scheme is what makes these plays unique. They were at a speed disadvantage and really could not run outside because of a lack of speed. Then on defense they were running a cover two and the other team was running play action passes. This would freeze the linebackers long enough to let the tightend or someone else to settle in the linebackers zone, allowing the other team to complete passes in the soft spot. They were doing a good job rallying to the ball and limiting the YAC, but that was not good enough for this guy. So I would explain to my five year old, what was going on using technical terms, and he would say "then they wrestle them to the ground". I would then say you know as much about football as everyone around us. This would piss the guy off, but, What;s he gonna do?

[bubbacoach]

Hey Bubbacoach, I could care less if you coach in SA.....and yes I'm young but I do not know little......don't disrespect.....and I thought everything posted on this thread was fair game if you want to have a conversation with a specific person call them on the phone otherwise shut your mouth
Don't jump on the porch unless you are ready to mess with the big dogs. This dog will bite. Show me alittle of your knowledge. Tell me what it means when a defense stems or tell me what the typical prevent defense truly is. How about you explain to me the new rules on cut blocking. Where is it legal and when is it not legal?

[JC73]

Don't jump on the porch unless you are ready to mess with the big dogs. This dog will bite. Show me alittle of your knowledge. Tell me what it means when a defense stems or tell me what the typical prevent defense truly is. How about you explain to me the new rules on cut blocking. Where is it legal and when is it not legal?

You are right to say that fans don't have the knowledge or are in the specific situations that coaches face when making pressured decisions. But there are some knowledgeable fans also. When someone tries to sound all "technical" it does not prove they are a great or even very knowledgeable coach.
I do know that when a defense "stems" it means they change their alignment directly prior the the snap of the ball to confuse the lineman's blocking scemes. A prevent defense is based on what base defense you run. Usually a linebacker is replaced by another defensive back, their alignmets are deepend, and they may play some type of man under with some type of zone shell over the top. You mentioned the midline in an earlier post. It is an inside play yes. The problem teams have with it is that if the playside outside linebacker scrapes to tight to dive back, he could get pinned and the QB will pull the ball (midline option) and hit the C gap and off to the races.
I'm not a coach or have ever coached, but I have picked up a few things. Not all fans are clueless. Lets not get caught up in who knows more, blah blah. One person's opinion is no better than anyone else's opinion on a message board.

[clemensbuff]

Don't jump on the porch unless you are ready to mess with the big dogs. This dog will bite. Show me alittle of your knowledge. Tell me what it means when a defense stems or tell me what the typical prevent defense truly is. How about you explain to me the new rules on cut blocking. Where is it legal and when is it not legal?

I know what the prevent defense is, it is the defense that prevents you from winning the game! LOL Just ask those West Texas kids that played CJ in the D1 final three years ago! LOL

[bubbacoach]

You are right to say that fans don't have the knowledge or are in the specific situations that coaches face when making pressured decisions. But there are some knowledgeable fans also. When someone tries to sound all "technical" it does not prove they are a great or even very knowledgeable coach.
I do know that when a defense "stems" it means they change their alignment directly prior the the snap of the ball to confuse the lineman's blocking scemes. A prevent defense is based on what base defense you run. Usually a linebacker is replaced by another defensive back, their alignmets are deepend, and they may play some type of man under with some type of zone shell over the top. You mentioned the midline in an earlier post. It is an inside play yes. The problem teams have with it is that if the playside outside linebacker scrapes to tight to dive back, he could get pinned and the QB will pull the ball (midline option) and hit the C gap and off to the races.
I'm not a coach or have ever coached, but I have picked up a few things. Not all fans are clueless. Lets not get caught up in who knows more, blah blah. One person's opinion is no better than anyone else's opinion on a message board.
You seem to have a little knowledge and I do know some fans have a little knowledge, but the one's who don't that talk like they do. The one's who have never played football, who only base the outcome of a play on how many yards it gets and do not know why it succeed, or does not succeed. These are the ones that get to me. And on your midline remark I assume you are talking about a 4-3 defense. The mike would have dive along with the tackle, They playside backer should be playing QB to pitch, with the end playing the QB, then you should have the playside Safety coming down to help on pitch with the backside backer and safety folding in to help if the dive breaks or the QB turns it up helping to limit the damage. But yes if the playside linebacker dives in on the pitch it does open it up for the QB to turn it up, and As I said then you have to rely on the two safeties and backside backer to come get him. This is the way I have typically seen it played out of a 4-3 alignment.