UIL Re-alignment Insight

[Drake]

Anyone know when the UIL formulates its re-alignment and at what time of the year they release it?

[BHS03]

It should be sometime in February, I think.

[bubbacoach]

Usually the 1st of Febuary by 9 a.m. on their sight.

[panther96]

I heard they are trying to put Lufkin in the district with Baytown and PA Memorial. That will suck cause it is 3 hours to all away games. We already travel to Houston which is in most cases 2 hours.

[KT2000]

Don't let the 2-5A fans see you talking like that. Amarillo to San Angelo and back...

[natlib]

I heard that. San Angelo Central would love to be realligned and avoid those 5-6 hour bus rides.

[Drake]

The Beaumont/Port Arthur teams cause everyone problems. Of course, its not their fault, but with only three 5A teams in the golden triangle, someone, usually the Baytown schools (that should be in with Laporte and Deer Park) get hosed. Right now the Spring teams have to make that trip and vise-versa.

[cougardude]

Don't let the 2-5A fans see you talking like that. Amarillo to San Angelo and back...

Yah, and how stupid was that move. They said they put SAC in the Panhandle district because they didn't want any districts with less than five schools. And three years ago the East Texas district with the Tyler and Longview schools only had FOUR!! :rolleyes:

[KT2000]

I'm glad it's not my job to align this state that's for sure.

[dragonfootballfan]

I heard that. San Angelo Central would love to be realligned and avoid those 5-6 hour bus rides.
that is really bad for football, but all of those games happen on friday night. I would hate to see what happens to the kids that take a 5-6 hour bus ride home from a basketball game during the week.

[bubbacoach]

I'm glad it's not my job to align this state that's for sure.
i will take on that task for UIl, and I promise to make everyone happy!LOL

[Favpack]

San Angelo and Lufkin are the UIL whipping boys. Remember when the Rockwall (or was it DeSoto?) AD cried alligator tears to the UIL - and they changed their minds. What an absolute joke. I honestly think the UIL fuels Lufkin's motor - we don't care who we dominate down here as long as they don't ship us over to Louisiana.

On the school enrollment -- I think the official enrollment tally day happened last Thursday?

[StormingCowboy]

San Angelo and Lufkin are the UIL whipping boys. Remember when the Rockwall (or was it DeSoto?) AD cried alligator tears to the UIL - and they changed their minds. What an absolute joke. I honestly think the UIL fuels Lufkin's motor - we don't care who we dominate down here as long as they don't ship us over to Louisiana.

On the school enrollment -- I think the official enrollment tally day happened last Thursday?

The first time I remember it was Rockwall and Desoto, but both schools got out of it.

The next time the Garland, refused to let them be the only non-GISD school.

[RedRage00]

CC Miller and CC Moody are rumored to be heading to 4A...and coach campbell says this could shift Victoria Memorial to Region III.

RR

[natlib]

that is really bad for football, but all of those games happen on friday night. I would hate to see what happens to the kids that take a 5-6 hour bus ride home from a basketball game during the week.

Unfortunately, it does happen already when the Central JV and Sophmore teams go to Lubbock or Amarillo on Thursday night games. The kids miss most of the school day on Thursday because of travel and then don't get back until around 3 am. Its ridiculous.

[sltnusmc]

that is really bad for football, but all of those games happen on friday night. I would hate to see what happens to the kids that take a 5-6 hour bus ride home from a basketball game during the week.
San Angelo was moved to Dist. 2-5A for football only.

[ktCarl]

I heard they are trying to put Lufkin in the district with Baytown and PA Memorial. That will suck cause it is 3 hours to all away games. We already travel to Houston which is in most cases 2 hours.

That's crazy! Lufkin should stay somewhere in East Texas and not have to wander further than Waco. Not that we don't want you down here in Houston but it's just not fair for the kids to have to make those long bus rides.

[sendero]

CC Miller and CC Moody are rumored to be heading to 4A...and coach campbell says this could shift Victoria Memorial to Region III.

RR


That will make it even harder for them to make the playoffs in both football and baseball

[LoneRocket]

I think the key for region IV is where they are going to place the Austin Schools.

[c-lisle]

Anyone know the possible scenarios for 12-5a? I guess they could put LP back with Lview and Tyler schools and move Marshall back up, but who would be the other schools? I don't guess that scenario is likely though. More likely they leave us like we are.

[Haysrebels#1]

i heard that hays would be dropped to 4-A because of less students,any one have insights on that

[clemensbuff]

i will take on that task for UIl, and I promise to make everyone happy!LOL

For some reason Bubbacoach I really think that you're the right man for the job! Why don't you send in your application tomorrow! sometimes I think that the people who are doing this job came straight from LaLa Land!

[clemensbuff]

i heard that hays would be dropped to 4-A because of less students,any one have insights on that

That would make for some good games again with SC. I hope that it happens!

[Haysrebels#1]

wait a minute is SC going to 4-A,by SC do you mean clemens

[sendero]

i heard that hays would be dropped to 4-A because of less students,any one have insights on that


I believe they have a second high school opening next year as well. I think they will be like Clemens with two 4A schools. Most likely move in with Burnet, Dripping Springs, & Lake Travis?

[clemensbuff]

wait a minute is SC going to 4-A,by SC do you mean clemens

That would be correct!

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

The Beaumont/Port Arthur teams cause everyone problems. Of course, its not their fault, but with only three 5A teams in the golden triangle, someone, usually the Baytown schools (that should be in with Laporte and Deer Park) get hosed. Right now the Spring teams have to make that trip and vise-versa.
If Nederland and PN-G quit "fixing" their numbers Lufkin wont have to make that trip to P.A. or BMT.

[lonny23]

I think the key for region IV is where they are going to place the Austin Schools.
They have no choice but to keep them out of Region 4.

[lonny23]

CC Miller and CC Moody are rumored to be heading to 4A...and coach campbell says this could shift Victoria Memorial to Region III.

RR
I'll believe those guys are in 4A when I see it. The 4A teams are better! :D

[lonny23]

I'm glad it's not my job to align this state that's for sure.
I'd like to do it. I'm already used to the Monday Morning Quarterbacking I'd get from you guys, I mean my friends! ;)

[lonny23]

i heard that hays would be dropped to 4-A because of less students,any one have insights on that
They sure might drop.

[RedRage00]

I'll believe those guys are in 4A when I see it. The 4A teams are better! :D


Lonny,

Quit being such a hater! Victoria could beat Judson right now LOL :D ;)

[RedRage00]

That will make it even harder for them to make the playoffs in both football and baseball

Victoria does pretty well in everything but football. I think they will be able to hold their own in Region III.

RR

[Oiler1]

Victoria does pretty well in everything but football. I think they will be able to hold their own in Region III.

RR

There is only one district that doesn't have 8 teams in it already in Region 3 and thats 24. Since Victoria's been making that trip for pre-season to Pearland, I wonder if thats where they will put them? B'wood already drives a ways but not nearly as far as Victoria. This may be short term because CCISD is currently building a 4th high school and will be adding that to the district in 2 years. Of course G'ball has been dropping in enrollment every year (could drop to 4A with Lamarque's district) and Alvin ISD is adding a second high school in Pearland city limits to cover 288 and Shadow Creek Ranch which would add another school in a few years.

[RATTLERS316]

i heard that hays would be dropped to 4-A because of less students,any one have insights on that
there is also talk that there is a small possibility that san marcos will drop back down to 4A depending on the cutoff...keep hearing rumors that the cutoff will be at near or at 2000 students...we only have 1975.5 students...would love to put Hays back on the schedule again and renew a great rivalry :)

[TexasRed6x]

It will be interesting to see what they do with Judson and Wagner next year. If I were a betting man I would say the put both of them with Seguin, EC, SV, SM, Southwest. I hope not but I do not feel that the district will just add Wagner.

[Haysrebels#1]

there is also talk that there is a small possibility that san marcos will drop back down to 4A depending on the cutoff...keep hearing rumors that the cutoff will be at near or at 2000 students...we only have 1975.5 students...would love to put Hays back on the schedule again and renew a great rivalry :)
Yeah we have i believe 1850 students.and i would love to renew taht rivalry,i have been folowing reble football 3 years and only time i saw hays play SM we lost 20-3

[Haysrebels#1]

i think it would be fun to re-align the districts i think i could take on the challenge if someone could give me all the info on the schools.# of students,location,Recent records.if someone could e-mail me that info at minicupnick19@yahoo.com i would be happy

[myround0]

Well, we all know Denton Ryan is going back to 4A, so Southlake might move into the12-5A. The new bracket, Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Euless Trinity, Southlake Carroll, and Rockwall. Welcome to the 666-5A

[Redneckn]

Well, we all know Denton Ryan is going back to 4A, so Southlake might move into the12-5A. The new bracket, Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Euless Trinity, Southlake Carroll, and Rockwall. Welcome to the 666-5A


That would be interesting.. How on earth would you pick a game to go see during district if you didnt have a dog (kid) in the hunt (game)?

[dragonfootballfan]

Well, we all know Denton Ryan is going back to 4A, so Southlake might move into the12-5A. The new bracket, Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Euless Trinity, Southlake Carroll, and Rockwall. Welcome to the 666-5A
I doubt that Carroll and Trinity would move into that district. They are west of Dallas, so another Dallas school would be a much better choice.

[myround0]

Southlake, Euless trinity are all on the 114...it would not be as big of a problem as you might want to make it...the only thing is the best games would be during the dirstinct and once the two remaining teams locked up in Division 2, the playoffs would be all but over, while the lucky school that went to division 1 would really have a cake walk...it would be a loaded division and make for a boring playoffs...although Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, and John Tyler will be back in the same district I predict they will play ball with the Plano teams, or we will Lose Rockwall and gain Lufkin along with the Mesquite teams...

[c-lisle]

Southlake, Euless trinity are all on the 114...it would not be as big of a problem as you might want to make it...the only thing is the best games would be during the dirstinct and once the two remaining teams locked up in Division 2, the playoffs would be all but over, while the lucky school that went to division 1 would really have a cake walk...it would be a loaded division and make for a boring playoffs...although Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, and John Tyler will be back in the same district I predict they will play ball with the Plano teams, or we will Lose Rockwall and gain Lufkin along with the Mesquite teams...

I haven't heard any talk of LP coming back to our district. I hear people saying the will stay in with houston. I would like to see LP come back. Add back LP and throw in the plano teams...that would be a awesome district. Maybe the toughest in the state. The mesquite schools would make it good too they have just been down for a few years.

[SanAngeloBobcat]

[QUOTE=myround0]Southlake, Euless trinity are all on the 114...QUOTE]

Actually, Trinity is on 183, not 114. Also, Trinity is in the same school district as L.D. Bell (HEB school district) so both schools have to be realigned as a package deal.

There are several schools on either the northeast, southeast, or south of Dallas that would be better prospects to join an East Texas district

[blue58]

Next year trinity will end up with teams like a combination of today's 6-5a and 5-5a.

I see this:
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
Hurst Bell
Grapevine
Colleyville Heritage
Haltom maybe?
Fossil Ridge
or maybe the irving schools instead of the last two.

Every year bell seems to pair up with the same people.
We switch from the SGP IRVING district to the GRAPEVINE COLLEYVILLE district.

[panthermaniac]

If we are going to be moved, I would rather drive to Mesquite than Port Arthur. About the same distance and we could be with our old East Texas buddies.

[c-lisle]

Southlake, Euless trinity are all on the 114...it would not be as big of a problem as you might want to make it...the only thing is the best games would be during the dirstinct and once the two remaining teams locked up in Division 2, the playoffs would be all but over, while the lucky school that went to division 1 would really have a cake walk...it would be a loaded division and make for a boring playoffs...although Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, and John Tyler will be back in the same district I predict they will play ball with the Plano teams, or we will Lose Rockwall and gain Lufkin along with the Mesquite teams...

there are to many teams south of SLC and ET for UIL to bypass in order to put them in our district. It would be nice though.

[BigFoot]

Next year trinity will end up with teams like a combination of today's 6-5a and 5-5a.

I see this:
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
Hurst Bell
Grapevine
Colleyville Heritage
Haltom maybe?
Fossil Ridge
or maybe the irving schools instead of the last two.

Every year bell seems to pair up with the same people.
We switch from the SGP IRVING district to the GRAPEVINE COLLEYVILLE district.

Once again this will not happen because Keller has 2 schools (Keller/Fossil Ridge) in 5A also and Haltom/Richland are a package Grapevine/Colleyville Trinity/Bell

[Sloth]

Once again this will not happen because Keller has 2 schools (Keller/Fossil Ridge) in 5A also and Haltom/Richland are a package Grapevine/Colleyville Trinity/Bell
Actually Keller will have 3 schools in 5a with Keller Central going 5a.

[dragonfootballfan]

Actually Keller will have 3 schools in 5a with Keller Central going 5a.
They will possibly take the place of Denton Ryan in the current district.

[lonny23]

YEA I HAVE HEARD THAT TWO OF THE cc SCHOOL WILL BE MOVING DOWN TO 4A. iF THE ENLARGED DISTRICT THING IS TRUE DEL RIO MAY STILL BE IN NORTHSIDE.
The Corpus schools are small enough to move down, but 9 and 10 team districts mean you'll have from 288 to 320 schools, which is up from 244. That will probably make the enrollment numbers drop.

District 1
EP Andress
Del Valle
Franklin
Coronado
Hanks
Montwood
Americas
Bel Air
Eastwood
Socorro

2
Lubbock
Coronado
Monterey
Amarillo
Tascosa
Palo Duro

3
Odessa
Permian
Midland
Lee
Abilene
Cooper
SA Central

4
Mansfield
Summit
North Crowley
Burleson
Granbury
Weatherford
FW Boswell
FW Paschal
FW Arlington Heights

5
Carroll
Ryan
Heritage
Richland
Haltom
Keller
Fossil Ridge
Grapevine
Birdville
Denton

6
Trinity
Irving
MacArthur
Nimitz
Coppell
Grand Prairie
SGP
Bell

7
Duncanville
DeSoto
Lamar
Martin
Arlington
Sam Houston
Bowie
Cedar Hill

8
Allen
Plano
East
West
Flower Mound
Marcus
Lewisville
The Colony
Hebron
McKinney

9
Carter
Skyline
White
Adams
Sunset
Samuell
Molina

10
Richardson
Lake Highlands
Berkner
Jesuit
Pearce
Turner
Newman Smith
Creekview

11
Garland
S Garland
N Garland
Rowlett
Naaman Forest
Lakeview Centennial
Sachse
Highland Park

12
John Tyler
Lee
Longview
Rockwall
Mesquite
Horn
N Mesquite
Denison

13
Cove
Waco
A&M
Bryan
Belton
Temple
Harker Heights
Shoemaker
Hewitt Midway

14
Lufkin
Nacogdoches
Klein
Forest
Collins
Oak
Huntsville
Oak Ridge
Conroe
The Woodlands

15
Leander
Pflugerville
Connally
Round Rock
Westwood
Cedar Park
Del Valle
McNeil
Stony Point
Georgetown

16
Westlake
Akins
Austin
Bowie
Hays
Bastrop
Crockett
Anderson
San Marcos

17
Cy Ridge
Cy Creek
Cy Falls
Langham Creek
Magnolia
Cy Springs
Tomball
Cy Fair
Jersey Village

18
Memorial
Nimitz
Eisenhower
Aldine
MacArthur
Stratford
Spring Woods
Northbrook

19
Katy
Cinco Ranch
K Taylor
A Taylor
Elsik
Hastings
Strake Jesuit
Mayde Creek

20
Hightower
Kempner
Marshall
Bush
Austin
Clements
Elkins
Dulles

21
Lamar
Westside
Bellaire
Madison
Chavez
Milby
Westbury
Austin
Sam Houston

22
Westfield
Lee
West Brook
Memorial
Sterling
Kingwood
Humble
Spring
New Caney

23
North Shore
LaPorte
Dobie
Deer Park
Memorial
Rayburn
South Houston
Pasadena
Channelview

24
Pearland
Clear Brook
Clear Creek
Clear Lake
Brazoswood
Alvin
Ball
Angleton

25
Seguin
New Braunfels
Southwest
Jefferson
Highlands
East Central
Brackenridge
Harlandale

26
Judson
Wagner
SV
Churchill
Madison
Reagan
Roosevelt
Lee
MacArthur

27
Clark
O'Connor
Holmes
Stevens
Jay
Taft
Marshall
Warren
Del Rio
Boerne

28
Memorial
Carroll
King
Moody
Miller
Ray

29
Eagle Pass
United
United South
Johnson
Cigarroa
Nixon
Martin
Alexander

30
LaJoya
McAllen
Memorial
Rowe
Rio Grande City
Mission
Sharyland

31
PSJA
PSJA North
PSJA Memorial
Edinburg
North
Weslaco
Economedes
Donna

32
Los Fresnos
Harlingen
San Benito
Rivera
Pace
Porter
Hanna
H South
Lopez

This is a sample of what I see for 5A next year. I'm sure new schools are splitting that I don't know about.

[Oiler1]

The Corpus schools are small enough to move down, but 9 and 10 team districts mean you'll have from 288 to 320 schools, which is up from 244. That will probably make the enrollment numbers drop.

24
Pearland
Clear Brook
Clear Creek
Clear Lake
Brazoswood
Alvin
Ball
Angleton

This is a sample of what I see for 5A next year. I'm sure new schools are splitting that I don't know about.

Wow...so by your estimation they must be moving the cutoff on students for 5A down or do you have new data on Angleton? This would be the second time they have moved into 24-5A. Interesting job of alignment speculation there Lonny, makes for some fun anticipation.

[lonny23]

Wow...so by your estimation they must be moving the cutoff on students for 5A down or do you have new data on Angleton? This would be the second time they have moved into 24-5A. Interesting job of alignment speculation there Lonny, makes for some fun anticipation.
No, I think they move 4A back into the 1800's. I took the teams that had like 1820+ 2 years ago. There's a chance that 2 Laredo and 2 Corpus schools drop and they put those 2 towns together. That eliminates one district somewhere and breaks up a lot of the 9 and 10 team districts I made. I really don't think Laredo and Corpus will let schools drop and have to travel more.

[myround0]

Lonny,

Take Denison out and add Lufkin to the 12-5A

[lonny23]

Lonny,

Take Denison out and add Lufkin to the 12-5A
I wanted to put Denison in with Plano, but those guys already had 10 teams. I put them in 12 to give you guys 8 teams. Lufkin goes where Nacogdoches goes.

[lonny23]

Lonny,

Take Denison out and add Lufkin to the 12-5A
The WF teams will have to find some new district opponents since they'll potentially lose Denton and Denison.

[TheOnceandFutureKnight]

I always have ought the UIL's coup de grace was not only having Bryan and A&M Consol in different districts, but also in different regions, despite being 5 miles apart some years ago.

I believe the emergence of Katy Morton Ranch will knock Strake out of 19-5A, happily clearing up a lot of problems on this board along the way.

[BigFoot]

Actually Keller will have 3 schools in 5a with Keller Central going 5a.

I didnt know they were going to be moving up....that was a fast track to 5A.
Thanks

[Drake]

I believe the emergence of Katy Morton Ranch will knock Strake out of 19-5A, happily clearing up a lot of problems on this board along the way.


What problems Knight? Seriously, what's been a problem on these boards? I realize there is a strong contingency from Katy here, and moving from 19-5A might ease some of those minds, but that means Strake goes somewhere else IN TEXAS. This is a Texas board, right? Of course, if we get moved to 4A the problem might be solved for this board.

[raidercheerdad]

Well, we all know Denton Ryan is going back to 4A, so Southlake might move into the12-5A. The new bracket, Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Euless Trinity, Southlake Carroll, and Rockwall. Welcome to the 666-5A

That may be the funniest thing I've ever heard, round! 666-5A! The funnier thing is how some people thought you were serious! Great Post.

[CCHS77]

I didnt know they were going to be moving up....that was a fast track to 5A.
Thanks


They opened (day one) with big 4A numbers. Given the area and growth, no surprise that they (pending new cutoff numbers) would move up.

[Hoser1234]

I really believe the only one who has say in this is Rhonda Farney. She is the girls basketball coach in Georgetown and the wife of the Head man at UIL Bill Farney. She tells him who she wants in her district and region. These are facts. She did it to Westlake in the mid nineties and to Copper Cove in the late 1990's. She not only had them in different districts, but had them in different Regions !!!! Everything is based off of girls basketball. IMAO....

[travisk44]

11
Garland
S Garland
N Garland
Rowlett
Naaman Forest
Lakeview Centennial
Sachse
Highland Park

12This is a sample of what I see for 5A next year. I'm sure new schools are splitting that I don't know about.

I'd love have HP in our districit! It'd make everything more interesting!

[gritty52]

Heard this rumor today let me know if any of you folks have heard it? 5 or 6 5A District for next year.

Euless Trinity
SLC
L D BELL
KELLER
KELLER FO
GRAPEVINE
CHHS :D

[caesarscott]

Del Valle is a better fit for the Austin schools than in 15-5A with the North Austin 'burbs. also, i dont think connally is ready to move up. maybe they are, but i doubt it. Word is 4A Hendrickson is closer to making the move than the Coogs

[The Lone Ranger]

I'd love have HP in our districit! It'd make everything more interesting!

Homer will fight that with everything he has...as will Rockwall.

I think that HP would be more likely to be added to 10-5A...it works better geographically.

And Denton High won't be in 5A...Guyer has affected both schools enrollments, not just Ryan.

[TheOnceandFutureKnight]

What problems Knight? Seriously, what's been a problem on these boards? I realize there is a strong contingency from Katy here, and moving from 19-5A might ease some of those minds, but that means Strake goes somewhere else IN TEXAS. This is a Texas board, right? Of course, if we get moved to 4A the problem might be solved for this board.

I was referring to all the bad blood the people of 19-5A seem to have for Strake Jesuit. No other district in Houston seems to give a rat's *** about representing on this board.

By the way, I can't believe you replied to a post about Strake without mentioning that Ron Counter had a heart attack and that Strake Jesuit took in 65 billion refugees from Hurricane Katrina. I'm shocked.

[The Lone Ranger]

I was referring to all the bad blood the people of 19-5A seem to have for Strake Jesuit. No other district in Houston seems to give a rat's *** about representing on this board.

By the way, I can't believe you replied to a post about Strake without mentioning that Ron Counter had a heart attack and that Strake Jesuit took in 65 billion refugees from Hurricane Katrina. I'm shocked.
Wow...I didn't know that the world has 65 billion people.

You took in 400 refugees (I'm from Dallas Jesuit, and we heard all about it). That should HELP you win, not be put in the BAD things.

But the heart attack to Coach Counter will affect SJ quite a bit.

[SLC13]

Heard this rumor today let me know if any of you folks have heard it? 5 or 6 5A District for next year.

Euless Trinity
SLC
L D BELL
KELLER
KELLER FO
GRAPEVINE
CHHS :D
Two reasons this grouping is unlikely. With 4 teams qualifying for the playoffs next year, the UIL will setup most 5A districts to have at least 8 teams. Keller Central will be joining 5A in this next realignment, and would not be placed in a different district than the other Keller ISD schools. The simplest & most logical setup would be to move KC into the slot vacated by Denton Ryan and keep the rest of 5-5A the same. I would think 6-5A would stay the same as well, since I don't think there are any schools moving up or down in those areas.

However, this is the UIL that we're talking about, so you never know. :D

[PackAttack2005]

Lonny, you may be a little off on your 14-5A predicted lineup.

First, Huntsville will return to 4A and if Nacogdoches were to move to 5A, the UIL would try to put the East Texas district back together, but they will stay 4A.

You also forgot about College Park at The Woodlands, they will step into varsity football next season.

As you know the UIL is unpredictable but I do think the UIL will try to keep Lufkin in Region 2 and they should.

Here is what I think will happen:

2006 14-5A (new district)

Lufkin
The Woodlands
College Park
Conroe
Conroe Oak Ridge
Humble
Humble Kingwood
New Caney

I think the 4 Klein ISD schools will be merged back with the Spring ISD school district in Region 3.

Lufkin could still go to the Port Arthur area, that is a possibility, except that it is a long drive down there, especially to the Baytown Lee area and it is in Region 3. I would rather go to 12-5A or just about anywhere than to go down into the Golden Trangle to play 2 years or more.

I just don't see Lufkin going to 12-5A, not because of football travel, but because of the long mid-week travel the sub-varsity kids would have to make to the Mesquite area.

There are lots of different district combinations that could develope, but I think the one I have suggested has some possibilities to happen.

We will find out in February.

[blue58]

So basically, bell and trinity were moved two years ago to make way for dryan and southlake?

I'd like to see the 5-5a we played in as a sophmore reunite...It was a little bit more fair for bell. give us some time to rebuild.

[BandidoNB]

Lonny had a nice analysis, but I would take Boerne out of 27-5A and put them in 25-5A. Why have a 10 team district and an 8 team district when you can have just two 9 team districts? Plus it would balance the power a little bit more.

[twhfan#1]

Lonny, you may be a little off on your 14-5A predicted lineup.

First, Huntsville will return to 4A and if Nacogdoches were to move to 5A, the UIL would try to put the East Texas district back together, but they will stay 4A.

You also forgot about College Park at The Woodlands, they will step into varsity football next season.

As you know the UIL is unpredictable but I do think the UIL will try to keep Lufkin in Region 2 and they should.

Here is what I think will happen:

2006 14-5A (new district)

Lufkin
The Woodlands
College Park
Conroe
Conroe Oak Ridge
Humble
Humble Kingwood
New Caney

I think the 4 Klein ISD schools will be merged back with the Spring ISD school district in Region 3.

Lufkin could still go to the Port Arthur area, that is a possibility, except that it is a long drive down there, especially to the Baytown Lee area and it is in Region 3. I would rather go to 12-5A or just about anywhere than to go down into the Golden Trangle to play 2 years or more.

I just don't see Lufkin going to 12-5A not perticularly because of football travel, but the long mid-week travel the sub-varsity kids would have to make to the Mesquite area.

There are lots of different district combinations that could develope, but I think the one I have suggested has some possibilities to happen.

We will find out in February.

good analysis --- but where does that leave Beaumont & Port Arthur if you take out Humble & Kigwood ???

My guess ( and I do mean guess because it means nothing until UIL decides --lol )

The 4 Conroe Schools & the 4 Klein schools ( Klein Oak moving back to % A --theu have over 2000 students now )

TWH
College Park
Oak Ridge
Conroe
Klein
Klein Forest
Klein Oak
Klein Collins

Fly in the ointment : Tomball & Magnolia --they are now in 17 5 A with the 7 Cy-Fair schools --the 8th Cy-Fair school starts varsity in 06 --so they will have a district to themselves --what happens to Tomball & Mag ??? both borders with Conroe ISD & Klein ISD ---- I think these 2 schools will decide the whole make-up of Houston 5 A re-alignment --they could go to Spring & Westfield -- but that upsets 22- 5A-- or they could go to Bryan , College Park --but that means long trips to Georgetown , etc ---who knows --maybe 1 to CY-Fair for 9 team district & 1 to Conroe / Klein for another 9 team district ----who knows ????



I look for Lufkin & Huntsville ( or New Caney ) to join 22-5 A with Beaumont , PA , Baytown Lee & Sterling , Humble & Kigwood - to make 8 team district

[lonny23]

I like all the analysis I'm seeing. I'm not aware of all the schools opening up and I see a lot of validity in what you write. I just think Boerne goes in with the richer schools of Northside in lieu of the poorer mix-match of 25-5A.

[RidgePride]

Next year trinity will end up with teams like a combination of today's 6-5a and 5-5a.

I see this:
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
Hurst Bell
Grapevine
Colleyville Heritage
Haltom maybe?
Fossil Ridge
or maybe the irving schools instead of the last two.

Every year bell seems to pair up with the same people.
We switch from the SGP IRVING district to the GRAPEVINE COLLEYVILLE district.

that is ridiculous

The Irving schools would not be with SLC and Keller schools

I can see

Trinity
Bell
Keller
Ridge
Keller Central (new 5a school)
Grapevine
Heritage
SLC

[BigFoot]

Heard this rumor today let me know if any of you folks have heard it? 5 or 6 5A District for next year.

Euless Trinity
SLC
L D BELL
KELLER
KELLER FO
GRAPEVINE
CHHS :D

I understand Keller will have 3 schools next year.

[dragonfootballfan]

that is ridiculous

The Irving schools would not be with SLC and Keller schools

I can see

Trinity
Bell
Keller
Ridge
Keller Central (new 5a school)
Grapevine
Heritage
SLC
This is possible, but I think that Coppell would be left out somewhere as would the Irving schools. Would they join there own districts and maybe combine with the Lewisville Schools? It still would not make much sense geographically. Then again, when has the UIL done a lot of things that make a lot of sense?

[chap fan]

On one of these forums, someone quoted the UIL as saying they wanted to limit 5A to 245 teams. If that were applied to the figures turned in in August, it looks like two districts would probably need to be cut from Region II and Region IV. Now, this gets into the travel and hardship business, but once UIL announces the districts, there won't be any new ones created or old ones abolished, only a team or two switched here or there.

Based on that, the areas currently showing the most schools on the lower end of the numbers are Corpus, Laredo and Austin-San Antonio. If UIL is serious about staying anywhere near that number with 8-man districts, I think they'd have to pull some San Antonio area teams into both areas and pull down down the southern most teams from the Austin area. And I think they'd have to split up the AISD district (not that Austin would want that, but the only 5A size schools they'd have left under this scenario would be Akins, Austin, and Bowie, and you can't justify your own district for only three teams (Anderson and Crockett would drop down to 4A). Hays is expected to drop down to 4A because of their new high school, which would leave Westlake, Bastrop, and probably two of the AISD teams to drop down to a Central Texas district with Sequin and some of the others that stay 5A. And UIL will have to decide between the arbitrary limit and letting Laredo and Corpus keep insular districts. They can't have it both ways.

Naturally, this is an Austin centered view--but I do believe that looking at 2005 numbers, the reduction in 5A teams will have to come from Central and South Texas.

[dragonsfan]

Keller Fossil Ridge may drop to 4A according to a story this week in the local Keller paper (not the F. W. Startlegram). Apparently their numbers have dropped drastically since the last UIL head count. Pretty amazing, if true, since they went Division I this year.

[PawPower]

Southlake, Euless trinity are all on the 114...it would not be as big of a problem as you might want to make it...the only thing is the best games would be during the dirstinct and once the two remaining teams locked up in Division 2, the playoffs would be all but over, while the lucky school that went to division 1 would really have a cake walk...it would be a loaded division and make for a boring playoffs...although Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, and John Tyler will be back in the same district I predict they will play ball with the Plano teams, or we will Lose Rockwall and gain Lufkin along with the Mesquite teams...

Should be interesting realignment. 8 5A contains the Lewisville ISD schools. I have heard that Hebron may move up to 5A. That means to keep Lewisville schools together, one team would need to leave 8 5A (Allen?) or the district is totally re-made. I have also heard that Wylie is sure to move up to 5A. One of their fans told me that they feel almost certain they will be aligned with Rockwall and the East Texas schools. I thought it would make more sense to align them with the Garland ISD schools. Anyone have any ideas?

[leanderdad]

Del Valle is a better fit for the Austin schools than in 15-5A with the North Austin 'burbs. also, i dont think connally is ready to move up. maybe they are, but i doubt it. Word is 4A Hendrickson is closer to making the move than the Coogs

Vista Ridge has its 1st year next year and will be in 15-5A(3rd school in Leander School District)

[sldragondad]

I hear Highland Park is going 5A!

[leanderdad]

Two reasons this grouping is unlikely. With 4 teams qualifying for the playoffs next year, the UIL will setup most 5A districts to have at least 8 teams. Keller Central will be joining 5A in this next realignment, and would not be placed in a different district than the other Keller ISD schools. The simplest & most logical setup would be to move KC into the slot vacated by Denton Ryan and keep the rest of 5-5A the same. I would think 6-5A would stay the same as well, since I don't think there are any schools moving up or down in those areas.

However, this is the UIL that we're talking about, so you never know. :D

only 3 teams next year, 4 teams in 2007 I believe

[RidgePride]

Heard this rumor today let me know if any of you folks have heard it? 5 or 6 5A District for next year.

Euless Trinity
SLC
L D BELL
KELLER
KELLER FO
GRAPEVINE
CHHS :D

This will not happen because Fossil Ridge will move down to 4A and Keller Central will go to 5A.

[nowsthetime]

Don't let the 2-5A fans see you talking like that. Amarillo to San Angelo and back...

Sounds like it's not only going to be San Angelo to Amarillo, but also Midland and Odessa to Amarillo as well. Ahhhh......nothing like traveling 4 hours one way to play a football game.

[RidgePride]

Keller Fossil Ridge may drop to 4A according to a story this week in the local Keller paper (not the F. W. Startlegram). Apparently their numbers have dropped drastically since the last UIL head count. Pretty amazing, if true, since they went Division I this year.
When they did the count for alignment several years ago, It was just before the New high school (Keller Central) was opened.

Half of the 9th grade group that would have went to Ridge went to Keller Central. Instead of a class of 600, Ridge received about 300 Freshman.

The next year, the same thing happened. So In the first year of the alignment, Ridge actually had about 2100 students.

This year Ridge only had around 1950 students.


Since the Alignment is done every two years, it still showed we had 2400 students. We were actually one of the smallest schools in the district but we had to play D1 in the playoffs.

If we go 4A, we will be a big 4A because the Numbers are about to go back up to 5A numbers. Look for Ridge to go deep in the playoffs if they go to 4A

[slorch]

The Corpus schools are small enough to move down, but 9 and 10 team districts mean you'll have from 288 to 320 schools, which is up from 244. That will probably make the enrollment numbers drop.

District 1
EP Andress
Del Valle
Franklin
Coronado
Hanks
Montwood
Americas
Bel Air
Eastwood
Socorro

2
Lubbock
Coronado
Monterey
Amarillo
Tascosa
Palo Duro

3
Odessa
Permian
Midland
Lee
Abilene
Cooper
SA Central

4
Mansfield
Summit
North Crowley
Burleson
Granbury
Weatherford
FW Boswell
FW Paschal
FW Arlington Heights

5
Carroll
Ryan
Heritage
Richland
Haltom
Keller
Fossil Ridge
Grapevine
Birdville
Denton

6
Trinity
Irving
MacArthur
Nimitz
Coppell
Grand Prairie
SGP
Bell

7
Duncanville
DeSoto
Lamar
Martin
Arlington
Sam Houston
Bowie
Cedar Hill

8
Allen
Plano
East
West
Flower Mound
Marcus
Lewisville
The Colony
Hebron
McKinney

9
Carter
Skyline
White
Adams
Sunset
Samuell
Molina

10
Richardson
Lake Highlands
Berkner
Jesuit
Pearce
Turner
Newman Smith
Creekview

11
Garland
S Garland
N Garland
Rowlett
Naaman Forest
Lakeview Centennial
Sachse
Highland Park

12
John Tyler
Lee
Longview
Rockwall
Mesquite
Horn
N Mesquite
Denison

13
Cove
Waco
A&M
Bryan
Belton
Temple
Harker Heights
Shoemaker
Hewitt Midway

14
Lufkin
Nacogdoches
Klein
Forest
Collins
Oak
Huntsville
Oak Ridge
Conroe
The Woodlands

15
Leander
Pflugerville
Connally
Round Rock
Westwood
Cedar Park
Del Valle
McNeil
Stony Point
Georgetown

16
Westlake
Akins
Austin
Bowie
Hays
Bastrop
Crockett
Anderson
San Marcos

17
Cy Ridge
Cy Creek
Cy Falls
Langham Creek
Magnolia
Cy Springs
Tomball
Cy Fair
Jersey Village

18
Memorial
Nimitz
Eisenhower
Aldine
MacArthur
Stratford
Spring Woods
Northbrook

19
Katy
Cinco Ranch
K Taylor
A Taylor
Elsik
Hastings
Strake Jesuit
Mayde Creek

20
Hightower
Kempner
Marshall
Bush
Austin
Clements
Elkins
Dulles

21
Lamar
Westside
Bellaire
Madison
Chavez
Milby
Westbury
Austin
Sam Houston

22
Westfield
Lee
West Brook
Memorial
Sterling
Kingwood
Humble
Spring
New Caney

23
North Shore
LaPorte
Dobie
Deer Park
Memorial
Rayburn
South Houston
Pasadena
Channelview

24
Pearland
Clear Brook
Clear Creek
Clear Lake
Brazoswood
Alvin
Ball
Angleton

25
Seguin
New Braunfels
Southwest
Jefferson
Highlands
East Central
Brackenridge
Harlandale

26
Judson
Wagner
SV
Churchill
Madison
Reagan
Roosevelt
Lee
MacArthur

27
Clark
O'Connor
Holmes
Stevens
Jay
Taft
Marshall
Warren
Del Rio
Boerne

28
Memorial
Carroll
King
Moody
Miller
Ray

29
Eagle Pass
United
United South
Johnson
Cigarroa
Nixon
Martin
Alexander

30
LaJoya
McAllen
Memorial
Rowe
Rio Grande City
Mission
Sharyland

31
PSJA
PSJA North
PSJA Memorial
Edinburg
North
Weslaco
Economedes
Donna

32
Los Fresnos
Harlingen
San Benito
Rivera
Pace
Porter
Hanna
H South
Lopez

This is a sample of what I see for 5A next year. I'm sure new schools are splitting that I don't know about.

The Woodlands College Park will be in the mix next year. I hope Lufkin goes back to their old district. It is a better fit for them, but I do enjoy hearing the Conroe and Klein schools bit@# about driving up there to get beat.

[svrangerfan]

I will be shocked if SV does not move down to 4a next year. Canyon Lake is opening and they may never be more than a 3a school but SV could be back in 5a in 4 years. Or sooner.

[rancher52]

Heard this rumor today let me know if any of you folks have heard it? 5 or 6 5A District for next year.

Euless Trinity
SLC
L D BELL
KELLER
KELLER FO
GRAPEVINE
CHHS :D
I know someone opined on Ridge, and it will depend on where UIL moves the cutoff if Ridge stays 5A. Other nearby 4A schools that are very close to being 5A are Birdville, Justin Northwest and Azle. Richland I think will join Denton Ryan moving to 4A. If you assume all those potential move - ups occur, you may end up with 5-5A and 6-5A being completely revamped. I could see potentially a district of
Keller
Keller Central
Ridge
Northwest
Birdville
Haltom
Azle

Granted, it would not put fear into the minds of other districts....

[LeanderLions3033]

15-5a could be mixed up a little bit. The teams that are staying for sure almost are
Leander
Cedar Park
Pflugerville
RR McNeil
RR Westwood
RR Stony Point

The last two spots is where the toss up is. If the UIL decides to keep Georgetown in 15-5a then they would be the 7th team. But rumor around here says that Georgetown may got to 13-5a with Copperas Cove, and waco etc. I don't know if it is for sure, but i think Round Rock High school will go down to 4a, and with no Round Rock and possibly no Georgetown that would leave three teams for 2 spots. Those three teams are
Pflugerville Connally
Pflugerville Hendrickson
and CP Vista Ridge
(not Del Valle, their just to far south in Austin)

Considering Vista Ridge is already bigger than Leander i think they are a lock to be in 15-5a so that last spot would be between Connally and Hendrickson. This is what i think our will look like either one or the other of these two.
Cedar Park
CP Vista Ridge
Leander
Pflugerville
Pflguerville Connally
RR Westwood
RR McNeil
RR Stony Point
or
Cedar Park
CP Vista Ridge
Leander
Pflugerville
Round Rock
RR Westwood
RR McNeil
RR Stony Point

I think Georgetown is gone to 13-5a and either Round Rock High will stay or Pflugerville Connally will take RR's place.

[badger95]

25 5A will be:

Westlake
Austin
Anderson
Bowie
Akins
Del Valle
Bastrop
San Marcos

Could be 16-5A, though I hope not.

[chap fan]

I see 16-5A as being reconfigured to add a district to another region. Anderson, Crockett, and San Marcos will probably drop down to 4A (if they shoot for the 245 number) and Hays also anticipates moving down to 4A. That's why I suspect they'll move the remaining 16-5A teams (Austin, Akins, Westlake, Bastrop) down to a San Antonio area district, and pull larger San Antonio area schools into the Corpus and Laredo districts. Several of the Corpus/Laredo schools are relatively very low in enrollment and probably should drop to 4A unless the UIL decides to make a larger 5A and let those communities keep their insular districts.

[Oldlynx]

only 3 teams next year, 4 teams in 2007 I believe

Nope - 4 teams in the playoffs starting next season.

[reed35]

i heard Wylie will be 5A next year. is this true?

[AllenEagle06]

i heard Wylie will be 5A next year. is this true?
That's what everyone's been saying but I haven't actually heard if it's absolutely true.

[grayowl60]

That's what everyone's been saying but I haven't actually heard if it's absolutely true.
According to thr Old Coach site, Wylie turned in 2200+. Thats 5A.

[reed35]

i heard they might come to 8-5A, Seems like they maybe better to go with Garland's district. Will be interesting to see.

[grayowl60]

I understand that uil wants 8 to 10 team districts (4 will go to the playoffs), the Garland isd district has 7, so Wylie would be logical, since it shares city limits with Sachse and Rowlett. I also notice that Waxahachi has numbers to move up, as does Mansfield Timberview. Its going to be interesting!

[gtownowlfootball06]

Put Wylie in 11-5a and put HP in 9-5a with the Dallas schools. HP would probably pay off the UIL before that happened though.