San Antonio Top Ten 10-24-05

[bubbacoach]

Here we go again
1. Clemens-Sits all alone on top of 25-5A. Secured district championship by beating San Marcos this past weekend. Proved they were more than a one man team, when they lost Henry. Should be able to keep rolling in the regular season. Will find out the affects of Henry's loss in the play-offs.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits in second in 26-5A. Will play for possible district title this weekend, when they square off with Madison. Should be a great contrast in style in this game.
3. Madison- Sits atop 26-5A. Will face their toughest competition to date this weekend against SV. Will more than likely decide district champion. As long as, Green, Guy, and Caflisch are healthy they can score at anytime from anywhere.
4. San Marcos-Sits in second in 25-5A. Coming off a hard fought loss to Clemens this past weekend, the Rattlers drop one spot. Rattlers should win their last two game before heading to the play-offs. Should be able to go deep in playoffs, if they can get past round one.
5. O'Connor-Sits all alone on top 27-5A. Still has a tough test coming up against Jay, but should be alright. Disciplined football, good coaching, and alot of heart keep the Panthers rolling.
6. Clark-Sits in second place in 27-5A. Has the easiest schedule remaining of the big three. Should finish district with one loss. Might have trouble in the playoffs, because of lack of size.
7. Jay- Still playing stout defense. Will be tested in the weeks to come when they square off against a very good O'Connor team. Could finish as high as first in the district or as low as third. This district is all but decided, just need to figure out in what order.
8. Churchill- Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Reagan this weekend possibly to decide the third place spot. Whoever wins this game will be the frontrunner. Should Reagan win, Churchill will then have three losses. If Reagan losses in week 10, they would also have three losses and the head to head with Churchill. To many scenarios. Churchill wins and they are in.
9. Reagan-Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Churchill for the third place spot. Reagan must win to still have a chance. Reagan having the best season in their history could take a big step towards their first playoff appearance with a win against Churchill.
10. Seguin- Will get third place in the weakest district around. Only three teams will finish with a winning record in this district. Clemens and San Marcos are definelty the cream of the crop, but Seguin will be the sacrificial victim to 26-5A in round one.

Game of the Week : Madison vs Smithson Valley. (Reagan vs. Churchill, this is for their season)

Once again, this is just for fun, do not get your tighty whities in a bunch. If you don't agree with it let me know. If you do, you sure are smart. Have fun with them. :eek: :D :)

[clemensbuff]

Here we go again
1. Clemens-Sits all alone on top of 25-5A. Secured district championship by beating San Marcos this past weekend. Proved they were more than a one man team, when they lost Henry. Should be able to keep rolling in the regular season. Will find out the affects of Henry's loss in the play-offs.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits in second in 26-5A. Will play for possible district title this weekend, when they square off with Madison. Should be a great contrast in style in this game.
3. Madison- Sits atop 26-5A. Will face their toughest competition to date this weekend against SV. Will more than likely decide district champion. As long as, Green, Guy, and Caflisch are healthy they can score at anytime from anywhere.
4. San Marcos-Sits in second in 25-5A. Coming off a hard fought loss to Clemens this past weekend, the Rattlers drop one spot. Rattlers should win their last two game before heading to the play-offs. Should be able to go deep in playoffs, if they can get past round one.
5. O'Connor-Sits all alone on top 27-5A. Still has a tough test coming up against Jay, but should be alright. Disciplined football, good coaching, and alot of heart keep the Panthers rolling.
6. Clark-Sits in second place in 27-5A. Has the easiest schedule remaining of the big three. Should finish district with one loss. Might have trouble in the playoffs, because of lack of size.
7. Jay- Still playing stout defense. Will be tested in the weeks to come when they square off against a very good O'Connor team. Could finish as high as first in the district or as low as third. This district is all but decided, just need to figure out in what order.
8. Churchill- Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Reagan this weekend possibly to decide the third place spot. Whoever wins this game will be the frontrunner. Should Reagan win, Churchill will then have three losses. If Reagan losses in week 10, they would also have three losses and the head to head with Churchill. To many scenarios. Churchill wins and they are in.
9. Reagan-Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Churchill for the third place spot. Reagan must win to still have a chance. Reagan having the best season in their history could take a big step towards their first playoff appearance with a win against Churchill.
10. Seguin- Will get third place in the weakest district around. Only three teams will finish with a winning record in this district. Clemens and San Marcos are definelty the cream of the crop, but Seguin will be the sacrificial victim to 26-5A in round one.

Once again, this is just for fun, do not get your tighty whities in a bunch. If you don't agree with it let me know. If you do, you sure are smart. Have fun with them. :eek: :D :)

Wow, why in the hell doesn't the Express News hire you? I would say that you are right on time with 1 thru 10 and your breakdown of each.

If Madison can beat SV this week, 1st round will be a war between SC & SV, and SM & Madison! Those two games could be best games of the entire playoffs!!! If it does fall like this, they better not schedule both games at the same time because I do not want to miss one play of either game!

[Reaganrattler07]

Wow, why in the hell doesn't the Express News hire you? I would say that you are right on time with 1 thru 10 and your breakdown of each.

If Madison can beat SV this week, 1st round will be a war between SC & SV, and SM & Madison! Those two games could be best games of the entire playoffs!!! If it does fall like this, they better not schedule both games at the same time because I do not want to miss one play of either game!

I agree....or maybe he could go to KSAT 12 and teach Greg Simmons football and how to rank people.....he puts people like South San, Lanier, Fox Tech and Sam Houston above the likes of Judson, Churchill, Reagan, Mac, and other teams.

[Reaganrattler07]

Here we go again
1. Clemens-Sits all alone on top of 25-5A. Secured district championship by beating San Marcos this past weekend. Proved they were more than a one man team, when they lost Henry. Should be able to keep rolling in the regular season. Will find out the affects of Henry's loss in the play-offs.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits in second in 26-5A. Will play for possible district title this weekend, when they square off with Madison. Should be a great contrast in style in this game.
3. Madison- Sits atop 26-5A. Will face their toughest competition to date this weekend against SV. Will more than likely decide district champion. As long as, Green, Guy, and Caflisch are healthy they can score at anytime from anywhere.
4. San Marcos-Sits in second in 25-5A. Coming off a hard fought loss to Clemens this past weekend, the Rattlers drop one spot. Rattlers should win their last two game before heading to the play-offs. Should be able to go deep in playoffs, if they can get past round one.
5. O'Connor-Sits all alone on top 27-5A. Still has a tough test coming up against Jay, but should be alright. Disciplined football, good coaching, and alot of heart keep the Panthers rolling.
6. Clark-Sits in second place in 27-5A. Has the easiest schedule remaining of the big three. Should finish district with one loss. Might have trouble in the playoffs, because of lack of size.
7. Jay- Still playing stout defense. Will be tested in the weeks to come when they square off against a very good O'Connor team. Could finish as high as first in the district or as low as third. This district is all but decided, just need to figure out in what order.
8. Churchill- Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Reagan this weekend possibly to decide the third place spot. Whoever wins this game will be the frontrunner. Should Reagan win, Churchill will then have three losses. If Reagan losses in week 10, they would also have three losses and the head to head with Churchill. To many scenarios. Churchill wins and they are in.
9. Reagan-Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Churchill for the third place spot. Reagan must win to still have a chance. Reagan having the best season in their history could take a big step towards their first playoff appearance with a win against Churchill.
10. Seguin- Will get third place in the weakest district around. Only three teams will finish with a winning record in this district. Clemens and San Marcos are definelty the cream of the crop, but Seguin will be the sacrificial victim to 26-5A in round one.

Game of the Week : Madison vs Smithson Valley. (Reagan vs. Churchill, this is for their season)

Once again, this is just for fun, do not get your tighty whities in a bunch. If you don't agree with it let me know. If you do, you sure are smart. Have fun with them. :eek: :D :)

My tighy whities are in a lil bunch :p JUST KIDDING

Very good top ten...they're actually coherent this week!

[bubbacoach]

My tighy whities are in a lil bunch :p JUST KIDDING

Very good top ten...they're actually coherent this week!
What wasn't coherent last weeK? What is it going to take for Reagan to beat Churchill this week?

[bubbacoach]

After I have thought about it, the only way Churchill get's in is with a win over Reagan this week. If Churchill loses they will have 3 losses, Reagan 2. Churchill would then beat Lee in the last week leaving them 3 losses. I fReagan loses to Judson they would also, have three loses, but would have the head to head with Churchill. Bu then it could be possible for Judson to only have three losses if they win out. Then you would have Judson with a win over Reagan and a loss to Churchill, Churchill with a win over Judson and a loss to Reagan, and Reagan with a loss to Judson and a win over Churchill. Then you would come down to positive points. Churchill has 14 positive points with their win over Judson. Judson has no positive points and Reagan has no positive points, so it would depend on the score differential in the Churchill/Reagan game and the Reagan/Judson game. So do the Rocket's still have a chance if Reagan beats Churchill by a low margin and Judson blows out Reagan? Wouldn't that be great. That a way, Judson would not be tested until the Quarterfinals against 27-5A. Because before that all they would have is Seguin and the valley. Judson going to the quarterfinals!!

[RedRage00]

That is a great Top 10!

[SeguinMatadors]

10. Seguin- Will get third place in the weakest district around. Only three teams will finish with a winning record in this district. Clemens and San Marcos are definelty the cream of the crop, but Seguin will be the sacrificial victim to 26-5A in round one.


LOL. I wouldn't be so sure about Seguin getting 3rd anymore. On the last game of the season the Mats face a Buffalo team that doesn't have James Henry. I wouldn't count em' out at all. Good chance there is a 3way tie for first place in 25. Also, its a joke that you think Seguin will get rollin' over in round 1.

[Hunting82]

I was at the SC vs. SM game and let me tell ya clemens did not struggle on offense whatsoever.....when Clemens plays seguin, seguin will get more than they can handle......clemens wins by three or more TD'S

[SeguinMatadors]

I was at the SC vs. SM game and let me tell ya clemens did not struggle on offense whatsoever.....when Clemens plays seguin, seguin will get more than they can handle......clemens wins by three or more TD'S

I doubt that. Seguins D is good. James Henry is one thing Jamal Robertson is another. Also, if Jamal Robetson moves from corner to RB full time it helps Seguins passing game as he is their top corner.

[Hunting82]

First of all its jamal robinson.....and trust me he is a bad motha....you will remember his name after he runs up and down the field on your matadors

[SeguinMatadors]

First of all its jamal robinson.....and trust me he is a bad motha....you will remember his name after he runs up and down the field on your matadors

Lmao. Okay?

[Hunting82]

If you've forgotten Clemens Defense is better and seguins offense is.....how should I put this........BAD I hope seguin goes into the Clemens game thinking that henry is out we will beat these guys because if seguin thinks that they will lose by 40

[SeguinMatadors]

If you've forgotten Clemens Defense is better and seguins offense is.....how should I put this........BAD I hope seguin goes into the Clemens game thinking that henry is out we will beat these guys because if seguin thinks that they will lose by 40

Seguins O is not BAD. SM made it look bad by keeping it off the field. I am not saying Seguin is a favorite by any means because they aren't. Seguin would not be foolish enough to think they are a favorites either. I think Seguins D will hold Clemens O in check and will be in the game down the wire just like last year.

[Hunting82]

Haven't you heard Clemens won the district championship Friday night and they did it without Region 4's best player James Henry........I mean honestly what have they put in the water in seguin to make ya'll think you stand a chance against clemens they just beat san marcos without their best player and if my memory serves me correctly that same san marcos team beat your matadors 21-0.....heres to a first round exit for your matadors!!!!

P.S. don't drink the water anymore

[SeguinMatadors]

Haven't you heard Clemens won the district championship Friday night and they did it without Region 4's best player James Henry........I mean honestly what have they put in the water in seguin to make ya'll think you stand a chance against clemens they just beat san marcos without their best player and if my memory serves me correctly that same san marcos team beat your matadors 21-0.....heres to a first round exit for your matadors!!!!

P.S. don't drink the water anymore

I hope Clemens goes into their game against Seguin with that same attitude.

You guys jumped out on SM as I thought you would. When SM gets in a hole they are in trouble. Like I said, SM got the lead on us and it is almost impossible to beat SM when they grab a lead on you because they will eat damn near all the time up. If we would have scored first on SM I believe the game would have been a diff. story.

Seguin is not the same team as SM. We are a passing team and I would say our D is better than SM. Have you guys even played a passing team this year? If your argument is: Team A beats team B, Team C beats team A, and you automatically concede that team C will team B then you are football moron. Football is not so black and white.

[Hunting82]

Clemens has an excellent pass defense and if seguin wants to pass the ball let them....jamal robinson and jared reynolds will have a field day.....clemens plays east central this friday and they pass the ball a lot so if you follow that game you'll get a little taste of what will happen to seguin

Samuel Clemens Buffaloes 2005 District 25-5A Champs

[Hunting82]

Is this Seguinmatadors character crazy or am I the one who has gone off the deep end? Can seguin beat Clemens? I'm so confused

[buffbacker]

I hope Clemens goes into their game against Seguin with that same attitude.

You guys jumped out on SM as I thought you would. When SM gets in a hole they are in trouble. Like I said, SM got the lead on us and it is almost impossible to beat SM when they grab a lead on you because they will eat damn near all the time up. If we would have scored first on SM I believe the game would have been a diff. story.

Seguin is not the same team as SM. We are a passing team and I would say our D is better than SM. Have you guys even played a passing team this year? If your argument is: Team A beats team B, Team C beats team A, and you automatically concede that team C will team B then you are football moron. Football is not so black and white.


If your defense is better than San Marcos, how is it that they scored 21 points points on your defense and you scored 0 on their defense?

[rattlerbacker]

There must be something in the water over there. San Marcos is averaging giving up over 30 yards less per game than Seguin and thats after playing Clemens. Seguin won't move the ball at all on the Clemens D either. Their QB will be in for a longggg night. I'm thinking 45-7 and that may be generous.

[bubbacoach]

Is this Seguinmatadors character crazy or am I the one who has gone off the deep end? Can seguin beat Clemens? I'm so confused
Seguinmatadors is crazy, No they cannot beat Clemens. Don't be confused.

[Hunting82]

Thanks for clarifying that....I was about to admit myself into a crazy house

[clemensbuff]

I agree....or maybe he could go to KSAT 12 and teach Greg Simmons football and how to rank people.....he puts people like South San, Lanier, Fox Tech and Sam Houston above the likes of Judson, Churchill, Reagan, Mac, and other teams.

You aint kiddin', what a Joke!

[SeguinMatadors]

So what happens if I am right and Seguin does win? Do I go from crazy to becoming some kind of football genius? Or even if it is close as you guys are acting as Seguin has no chance and will get blown out.

[Go Buffs]

So what happens if I am right and Seguin does win? Do I go from crazy to becoming some kind of football genius? Or even if it is close as you guys are acting as Seguin has no chance and will get blown out.
I like your spirit SegMat! And yes, you're going to have major bragging rights on this board if the Mats win.

BTW, if Seguin gave up 21 points to San Marcos and Clemens gave up 24, doesn't that mean Seguin's defense is better? ;)

BTW part II, SegMat, don't misunderstand me because you can't lose a player like Henry and not be worse off. But if there's one position on the Buffs that's deep with GOOD talent this year, it just so happens to be at RB. So much so that a supposedly prime soph RB was left on JV to get reps this season. Word is the they're giving serious thought to bringing him up to split time with Robinson.

[Reaganrattler07]

Does every San Antonio related thread have to go straight to 25-5A?

But I think Judson has a slim chance to go to the playoffs, I think it's either Reagan or Churchill. Churchill having the advantage of having the "lesser schedule" Cause they have Reagan (it will be a tough game) and then Lee...whereas Judson has Mac and Reagan. As much as I joke with Mac, they aren't pushovers, and neither is Reagan. Definately if Reagan is fighting for something historical. And Mac can still spoil some seasons...

[Reaganrattler07]

You aint kiddin', what a Joke!

I can't believe i actually stay up and watch that garbage he calls "12's top 12"...because of that I woke up at 7:30! And didn't get much sleep....

[clemensbuff]

[QUOTE=Redskins88]Does every San Antonio related thread have to go straight to 25-5A?

What's wrong with that? LOL Maybe it's because SC and SM are excited about the teams they have this year!

[Reaganrattler07]

[QUOTE=Redskins88]Does every San Antonio related thread have to go straight to 25-5A?

What's wrong with that? LOL Maybe it's because SC and SM are excited about the teams they have this year!

Clemens always has a good team....San Marcos...I gotta cheer our brethren on (Rattlers). But in 25-5A, my team is Clemens. Fans have shown a lot of class.

[clemensbuff]

[QUOTE=clemensbuff]

Clemens always has a good team....San Marcos...I gotta cheer our brethren on (Rattlers). But in 25-5A, my team is Clemens. Fans have shown a lot of class.

Most of the time the fans show a lot of class. There are always one or two in every bunch that can be pretty much a royal pain in the A$$! SM is a good team. You would be hard pressed to find a better offense than they have!

[Reaganrattler07]

[QUOTE=Redskins88]

Most of the time the fans show a lot of class. There are always one or two in every bunch that can be pretty much a royal pain in the A$$! SM is a good team. You would be hard pressed to find a better offense than they have!

Well, I saw some fans at the Classic a while back - very classy. And the ones on here are pretty good. And then Texas Headliner is good as well.

[SeguinMatadors]

I like your spirit SegMat! And yes, you're going to have major bragging rights on this board if the Mats win.

BTW, if Seguin gave up 21 points to San Marcos and Clemens gave up 24, doesn't that mean Seguin's defense is better? ;)

BTW part II, SegMat, don't misunderstand me because you can't lose a player like Henry and not be worse off. But if there's one position on the Buffs that's deep with GOOD talent this year, it just so happens to be at RB. So much so that a supposedly prime soph RB was left on JV to get reps this season. Word is the they're giving serious thought to bringing him up to split time with Robinson.
Thank you and I guess Seguin does have the better D according to a lot of these guys thinking.

I have also heard of that running back on JV. I am sure they will move him up if he is good as advertised. I was never saying Seguin was the favorite; just that, with the loss of Henry, the likelihood of Seguin beating the Buffs on the last game of the season for a 3-way tie in the district drastically increases.

It hurts the Buffs secondary as Robinson now has to become more of an offensive player and gets fewer snaps on D. It also hurts the secondary because, if I remember correctly, James Henry was playing a lot of safety last year in the game against Seguin. Not to mention that James Henry was an All-American running back, I am sure the other guys are good but there will be at least somewhat of a drop off at the position. Like I said, I never called Seguin favorite, just that the scenario becomes a lot more likely.

[clemensbuff]

Thank you and I guess Seguin does have the better D according to a lot of these guys thinking.

I have also heard of that running back on JV. I am sure they will move him up if he is good as advertised. I was never saying Seguin was the favorite; just that, with the loss of Henry, the likelihood of Seguin beating the Buffs on the last game of the season for a 3-way tie in the district drastically increases.

It hurts the Buffs secondary as Robinson now has to become more of an offensive player and gets fewer snaps on D. It also hurts the secondary because, if I remember correctly, James Henry was playing a lot of safety last year in the game against Seguin. Not to mention that James Henry was an All-American running back, I am sure the other guys are good but there will be at least somewhat of a drop off at the position. Like I said, I never called Seguin favorite, just that the scenario becomes a lot more likely.

I think you are correct on everything except Jamal Robinson. If there is an athlete in the state who can go both ways and not suffer a drop off throughout the game, it is him. He is one hell of an athlete!

I'll say this, with James not in there it sure does not help. Any team loosing a player like him will have a drop off for sure, but if any team in the area this year can endure it, it's Clemens. They are deep with talent and these kids are a true team. I beleive that they will continue to come together as a team and get even stronger. These kids are on a mission to prove something this year. Don't get me wrong, it will certainly be a tougher road without James there to lead the offense.

Even without James, SC will be a heavy favorite against the Mats, but it is not impossible for the Mats to win. After all, they do have a good defense as evidenced by them holding SM to less points than SC did. For the Mats to win this game at Clemens, they will have to play the perfect game and probably get a little help from the Buffaloes!

I'll say this for you SeguinMatadors, you are a true fan who supports his team and is always looking at the positive side. Good luck to the Mats, SM, and our Buffaloes in the playoffs. Let's give 26-5a all they can handle!

[bubbacoach]

I put Seguin in the top ten and Matador finds something new to whine about.

[bubbacoach]

Where are the San Antonio football fans at?

[lonny23]

My tighy whities are in a lil bunch :p JUST KIDDING

Very good top ten...they're actually coherent this week!
I thought they were Superman underoos! :p

[lonny23]

After I have thought about it, the only way Churchill get's in is with a win over Reagan this week. If Churchill loses they will have 3 losses, Reagan 2. Churchill would then beat Lee in the last week leaving them 3 losses. I fReagan loses to Judson they would also, have three loses, but would have the head to head with Churchill. Bu then it could be possible for Judson to only have three losses if they win out. Then you would have Judson with a win over Reagan and a loss to Churchill, Churchill with a win over Judson and a loss to Reagan, and Reagan with a loss to Judson and a win over Churchill. Then you would come down to positive points. Churchill has 14 positive points with their win over Judson. Judson has no positive points and Reagan has no positive points, so it would depend on the score differential in the Churchill/Reagan game and the Reagan/Judson game. So do the Rocket's still have a chance if Reagan beats Churchill by a low margin and Judson blows out Reagan? Wouldn't that be great. That a way, Judson would not be tested until the Quarterfinals against 27-5A. Because before that all they would have is Seguin and the valley. Judson going to the quarterfinals!!

Now, you're copying me a little. I had to say that since you said I copied your thread! ;)

Churchill is +14 and Judson is -14. Any way you look at it, Judson has to win by more than 2 TD's over Reagan and have the Rattlers beat the Chargers. Judson probably has to win by 3 TD's or more. Now, if Lee could also somehow beat Churchill, the Rockets would get in the playoffs just by beating Reagan. Judson plays 27-5A in Round 2 with a cakewalk quarterfinal matchup. The hard part would be the semifinals.

[SeguinMatadors]

Now, you're copying me a little. I had to say that since you said I copied your thread! ;)

Churchill is +14 and Judson is -14. Any way you look at it, Judson has to win by more than 2 TD's over Reagan and have the Rattlers beat the Chargers. Judson probably has to win by 3 TD's or more. Now, if Lee could also somehow beat Churchill, the Rockets would get in the playoffs just by beating Reagan. Judson plays 27-5A in Round 2 with a cakewalk quarterfinal matchup. The hard part would be the semifinals.

LOL, man I hope Judson gets in.

[lonny23]

LOL, man I hope Judson gets in.
Yeah and I want them to play your boys! Judson is down, but that doesn't mean you guys can start beating them. You barely beat East Central and you're talking about beating 26-5A. :confused: Judson is not as good this year, but they're losing to teams that are better than Seguin. The Matadors are 2nd division material in 26-5A and I like the guys. I used to joke about them, but was happy they got off the scneid last year.

[bubbacoach]

Let the man live in his own simple world and when they get run out of the playoffs again in the first round, maybe he will realize that they are not real good, there district is just that bad. (minus Clemens and San Marcos)

[SeguinMatadors]

Let the man live in his own simple world and when they get run out of the playoffs again in the first round, maybe he will realize that they are not real good, there district is just that bad. (minus Clemens and San Marcos)

Bubba, have you honestly seen Seguin play this year? I am jw because you seem to know so much about them. If not, please do come to the Seguin-Clemens game on the last game of the year, because I doubt you will be able to make it out to Seguins first round playoff match up seeing as how there will be much better matchups in the D-2 brackett. Anyways, if you decied to go, let me know so I can tell you some things to look out for on Seguins side of the ball.

[bubbacoach]

Yes I have been to Seguin games. Yes, I used to coach in Seguin. Yes, I know some of thier coaches. Yes, I have talked to some of their coaches. Yes, I know what the coaches say. Yes, I know more about the Seguin cheerleaders, oops I mean football team than you do. Yes I will be back after round one telling you better luck next year. What am I supposed to look out for on the sideline? Coaches getting flustered, because you cannot get anything going offensively or defensively? Coach Mize putting ice on the kids trying to get out of the game so they don't get hit again? What exactly am I supposed to look for? By the way is your good QB healthy again, I have not seen you play since he got hurt. You have no chance with the other one.

[SeguinMatadors]

Yes I have been to Seguin games. Yes, I used to coach in Seguin. Yes, I know some of thier coaches. Yes, I have talked to some of their coaches. Yes, I know what the coaches say. Yes, I know more about the Seguin cheerleaders, oops I mean football team than you do. Yes I will be back after round one telling you better luck next year. What am I supposed to look out for on the sideline? Coaches getting flustered, because you cannot get anything going offensively or defensively? Coach Mize putting ice on the kids trying to get out of the game so they don't get hit again? What exactly am I supposed to look for? By the way is your good QB healthy again, I have not seen you play since he got hurt. You have no chance with the other one.

Wait, so used to coach at Seguin? No wonder you dislike Seguin, you were one of the terrible coaches that kept the program in the gutter for so long. Whos coaching staff were you on Kucherak's, Ortiz's, or before that? If I were you, I wouldn't admit to that.

Yes, Caleb is healthy. He didn't play much last week and I doubt he will play much this week; They are going to play Hartwick this week to get him some game experience. Carson always does that when playing the Highlands and Jeffersons of the world.

What game did you see Seguin play?

[bubbacoach]

East Central and San Marcos. I was not there with either one of those guys. All I know is the terrible coaches that were there are all part of successful programs, Judson, Clemens, Kerrville, Jay, etc. So with all the success we are having now tells me it must not have been the coaching. When you have corners that run a 5.2 40, and running backs and recievers that run 4.9, you don't have much chance in 26-5A or the Austin district. We would try to tell our kids that we could win and they would go home and hear from there parents and friends that they suck and have no chance it is hard. I am happy to see the success that Seguin is having right now, but i am also realistic and do not believe they would have the same success in the Austin district or 26-5A. More success in Austin than 26-5A. Have you heard that UIL is talking about making all 5A districts 9 or 10 teams, because there will be four teams in the playoffs?

[SeguinMatadors]

East Central and San Marcos. I was not there with either one of those guys. All I know is the terrible coaches that were there are all part of successful programs, Judson, Clemens, Kerrville, Jay, etc. So with all the success we are having now tells me it must not have been the coaching. When you have corners that run a 5.2 40, and running backs and recievers that run 4.9, you don't have much chance in 26-5A or the Austin district. We would try to tell our kids that we could win and they would go home and hear from there parents and friends that they suck and have no chance it is hard. I am happy to see the success that Seguin is having right now, but i am also realistic and do not believe they would have the same success in the Austin district or 26-5A. More success in Austin than 26-5A. Have you heard that UIL is talking about making all 5A districts 9 or 10 teams, because there will be four teams in the playoffs?

I assume you were on Coach Smith' staff then, if you were here semi recent. You may be an old timer.

I do know what you mean though, in regard to the negative attitude in the past of some of the "Seguin faithful". I just want to know how the hell you had corners running 5.2s. LOL, that is funny. I think Seguin has a lot of good athletes; some fall into the wrong crowds and never reach their potential; some were put in horrible positions to succeed by past coaching staffs. I think that is the difference with Carson, he got some wins under his belt and showed that Seguin could win. Now the players have a diff. attitude and the athletes are staying on the field and out of trouble.

I know you aren't sold on Seguin; hell, I wouldn't be either if I watched the EC game. Say what you want about Seguins schedule and district but they are better than they used to be. Proof of that is the way they played Westlake in Carson’s first year, took a team to the fourth quarter that would regularly blow them out in the first half. More proof is the fact that beat SM last year, a team that would run us year after year. I think the biggest proof is the fact that Seguin seems to have New Braunfels number now, a team that had a winning streak going on against Seguin that must have went back to your days here.

As far as last year goes, Seguin would have made the playoffs in the Austin district but not 26.I personally think that they have the personal this year to beat the teams in 26 not named SV; I don't think any of the other teams are much better from the games I have seen.

I haven't heard about the districts going to 9 or 10 teams but I had heard about 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. I personally don't want it to go to 4 teams making the playoffs from each district but if they do they have to go to 9 or 10 teams per district; you can't have more than half the district making the playoffs, which would pretty much make the playoffs a non-achievement. What district do you think Seguin will wind up in next year? Whatever district it is better watch out because Seguins Sophomore and Junior classes are by far the best to come through in a long time.

[clemensbuff]

I assume you were on Coach Smith' staff then, if you were here semi recent. You may be an old timer.

I do know what you mean though, in regard to the negative attitude in the past of some of the "Seguin faithful". I just want to know how the hell you had corners running 5.2s. LOL, that is funny. I think Seguin has a lot of good athletes; some fall into the wrong crowds and never reach their potential; some were put in horrible positions to succeed by past coaching staffs. I think that is the difference with Carson, he got some wins under his belt and showed that Seguin could win. Now the players have a diff. attitude and the athletes are staying on the field and out of trouble.

I know you aren't sold on Seguin; hell, I wouldn't be either if I watched the EC game. Say what you want about Seguins schedule and district but they are better than they used to be. Proof of that is the way they played Westlake in Carson’s first year, took a team to the fourth quarter that would regularly blow them out in the first half. More proof is the fact that beat SM last year, a team that would run us year after year. I think the biggest proof is the fact that Seguin seems to have New Braunfels number now, a team that had a winning streak going on against Seguin that must have went back to your days here.

As far as last year goes, Seguin would have made the playoffs in the Austin district but not 26.I personally think that they have the personal this year to beat the teams in 26 not named SV; I don't think any of the other teams are much better from the games I have seen.

I haven't heard about the districts going to 9 or 10 teams but I had heard about 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. I personally don't want it to go to 4 teams making the playoffs from each district but if they do they have to go to 9 or 10 teams per district; you can't have more than half the district making the playoffs, which would pretty much make the playoffs a non-achievement. What district do you think Seguin will wind up in next year? Whatever district it is better watch out because Seguins Sophomore and Junior classes are by far the best to come through in a long time.

I would agree with bubbacoach that Seguin was facing a terrible moral problem for many, many years. Not necessarily the players, but the people in the town (SO CALLED FANS). One of my employees that played their in the late 90's told me that he and his buds would go into a place of business and the sorry SOBs working there would ask them "so who are ya'll going to lose to this Friday night"! I asked him if they removed any of their front teeth for saying stuff like that! These kids that stayed in the program deserved a hell of a lot more than that. I've been telling my guys from Seguin for several years that all Seguin needed was to win a few of the tight games that they had lost for so many years and get some real fan support and it could turn that program around back to where they were in the 70s! Well look what happened last year!!!! I beleive that Seguin has turned the corner in many ways. The kids that were part of Breez and the old Seagart Middle Schools that played and then quit in HS are not quitting anymore!

So, yes I agree with what Bubbacoach said about the attitudes of the players and fans before last year, but I totally agree with what you say about the new and improved attitude of the town and the team! Seguin is on the rise and as long as Carson stays there it will continue because he has the whole town behind him and the players respect him and his staff and will run through a concrete wall for him if he asks!

[gobuffs04]

Thank you and I guess Seguin does have the better D according to a lot of these guys thinking.

I have also heard of that running back on JV. I am sure they will move him up if he is good as advertised. I was never saying Seguin was the favorite; just that, with the loss of Henry, the likelihood of Seguin beating the Buffs on the last game of the season for a 3-way tie in the district drastically increases.

It hurts the Buffs secondary as Robinson now has to become more of an offensive player and gets fewer snaps on D. It also hurts the secondary because, if I remember correctly, James Henry was playing a lot of safety last year in the game against Seguin. Not to mention that James Henry was an All-American running back, I am sure the other guys are good but there will be at least somewhat of a drop off at the position. Like I said, I never called Seguin favorite, just that the scenario becomes a lot more likely.

they're not playing robinson at rb...if they do it won't be very much...they'll keep him on D but i'll tell you this...the backup tb david rice is D1 talent he holds the school record in the 40 at like 4.2 or 4.3 not too sure but i know james was at 4.4...don't get me wrong he's no james henry, but with the all around good team the buffs have, having someone with his talent step up...i don't see the buffs losing any step :cool:

[mad_fan]

I would agree with bubbacoach that Seguin was facing a terrible moral problem for many, many years.

Gosh, I hope you mean MORALE not MORAL :(

[mad_fan]

Here we go again
1. Clemens-Sits all alone on top of 25-5A. Secured district championship by beating San Marcos this past weekend. Proved they were more than a one man team, when they lost Henry. Should be able to keep rolling in the regular season. Will find out the affects of Henry's loss in the play-offs.
2. Smithson Valley- Sits in second in 26-5A. Will play for possible district title this weekend, when they square off with Madison. Should be a great contrast in style in this game.
3. Madison- Sits atop 26-5A. Will face their toughest competition to date this weekend against SV. Will more than likely decide district champion. As long as, Green, Guy, and Caflisch are healthy they can score at anytime from anywhere.
4. San Marcos-Sits in second in 25-5A. Coming off a hard fought loss to Clemens this past weekend, the Rattlers drop one spot. Rattlers should win their last two game before heading to the play-offs. Should be able to go deep in playoffs, if they can get past round one.
5. O'Connor-Sits all alone on top 27-5A. Still has a tough test coming up against Jay, but should be alright. Disciplined football, good coaching, and alot of heart keep the Panthers rolling.
6. Clark-Sits in second place in 27-5A. Has the easiest schedule remaining of the big three. Should finish district with one loss. Might have trouble in the playoffs, because of lack of size.
7. Jay- Still playing stout defense. Will be tested in the weeks to come when they square off against a very good O'Connor team. Could finish as high as first in the district or as low as third. This district is all but decided, just need to figure out in what order.
8. Churchill- Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Reagan this weekend possibly to decide the third place spot. Whoever wins this game will be the frontrunner. Should Reagan win, Churchill will then have three losses. If Reagan losses in week 10, they would also have three losses and the head to head with Churchill. To many scenarios. Churchill wins and they are in.
9. Reagan-Tied for third in 26-5A. Will be playing Churchill for the third place spot. Reagan must win to still have a chance. Reagan having the best season in their history could take a big step towards their first playoff appearance with a win against Churchill.
10. Seguin- Will get third place in the weakest district around. Only three teams will finish with a winning record in this district. Clemens and San Marcos are definelty the cream of the crop, but Seguin will be the sacrificial victim to 26-5A in round one.

Game of the Week : Madison vs Smithson Valley. (Reagan vs. Churchill, this is for their season)

Once again, this is just for fun, do not get your tighty whities in a bunch. If you don't agree with it let me know. If you do, you sure are smart. Have fun with them. :eek: :D :)


OMG, Bubba...yours looks almost like the E-N! :)

[bubbacoach]

Mad Fan I don't know what the Express News top ten looks like, but maybe Dan McCarney has gotten on this site and seen what it should look like.

[bubbacoach]

I assume you were on Coach Smith' staff then, if you were here semi recent. You may be an old timer.

I do know what you mean though, in regard to the negative attitude in the past of some of the "Seguin faithful". I just want to know how the hell you had corners running 5.2s. LOL, that is funny. I think Seguin has a lot of good athletes; some fall into the wrong crowds and never reach their potential; some were put in horrible positions to succeed by past coaching staffs. I think that is the difference with Carson, he got some wins under his belt and showed that Seguin could win. Now the players have a diff. attitude and the athletes are staying on the field and out of trouble.

I know you aren't sold on Seguin; hell, I wouldn't be either if I watched the EC game. Say what you want about Seguins schedule and district but they are better than they used to be. Proof of that is the way they played Westlake in Carson’s first year, took a team to the fourth quarter that would regularly blow them out in the first half. More proof is the fact that beat SM last year, a team that would run us year after year. I think the biggest proof is the fact that Seguin seems to have New Braunfels number now, a team that had a winning streak going on against Seguin that must have went back to your days here.

As far as last year goes, Seguin would have made the playoffs in the Austin district but not 26.I personally think that they have the personal this year to beat the teams in 26 not named SV; I don't think any of the other teams are much better from the games I have seen.

I haven't heard about the districts going to 9 or 10 teams but I had heard about 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. I personally don't want it to go to 4 teams making the playoffs from each district but if they do they have to go to 9 or 10 teams per district; you can't have more than half the district making the playoffs, which would pretty much make the playoffs a non-achievement. What district do you think Seguin will wind up in next year? Whatever district it is better watch out because Seguins Sophomore and Junior classes are by far the best to come through in a long time.
I do not know where Seguin will end up. Probably back in Austin, but What I have heard from one of the AD's who got this suppposedly from UIL. is that 26-5A will add East Central and Wagner. Northside will add Southwest and Stevens. That would mean that ya'll will lose Clemens, Southwest, East Central, Jefferson I think that leaves ya'll with Seguin, San Marcos, and Highlands. Who knows where you would end up. I like my way of dividing up S.A. I did it on an earlier thread, I think I had two 8 team district and one 7 team district.
As for having corner's that ran a 5.2. Those were are best athletes.. There were a couple of good athletes in basketball, but they were truly nothing special. The kids that were probably were your best athletes were smoking pot and wandering the halls. Not the type of kids you would want to build your program around. Right now Seguin is having a good run of athletes, which is good, hopefully it last. Only time will tell and a big factor for them is where they are put by the UIL.

[bubbacoach]

In S.A. there are three 5A UIL Districts 25, 26, 27. They are made up of 23 teams. You add into the mix Wagner and Stevens (Steele will probably not be 5A) then you have 25 teams. You take away the teams that will probably go to 4A Clemens and Jefferson that leaves us with 23 teams.
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

27 5A
1. Marshall
2. O'Connor
3. Warren
4. Taft
5. Jay
6. Clark
7. Holmes
8. Stevens

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?

[mad_fan]

Mad Fan I don't know what the Express News top ten looks like, but maybe Dan McCarney has gotten on this site and seen what it should look like.

You're probably right...they came out with it a day later than in previous weeks. :D

[mad_fan]

I would actually hate to see Judson leave the 265...they make everybody better in the district.

[clemensbuff]

Gosh, I hope you mean MORALE not MORAL :(

Sorry, I absolutely hated English in school and my spelling show it! LOL But on the bright side I got straight A's in everything else!!!

[sendero]

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?


I don't think the UIL ever does something so a team will "have a chance". I like your line ups but I think Boerne will come into one of the districts? There is talk that Victoria may move to a Houston area district and two of the CC schools moving to 4A. Do you move East Central & Southwest into the CC District or maybe Highlands as well? There is even talk of 8-9 team districts with the new 4 playoff teams. I know the Rio Grande Valley is exploding as well so there are large districts there as well.

[bubbacoach]

I Have Heard That Uil Is Talking About Reducing The Number Of Districts And Increasing The Number Of Teams In Each District To Nine Or 10 Teams. This Will Be An Organizational Mess In Areas That Do Not Have 9 Or 10 Teams In The Same Classification In The Same Area. It Will Be Interesting To See What Uil Does.

[lonny23]

Yes I have been to Seguin games. Yes, I used to coach in Seguin. Yes, I know some of thier coaches. Yes, I have talked to some of their coaches. Yes, I know what the coaches say. Yes, I know more about the Seguin cheerleaders, oops I mean football team than you do. Yes I will be back after round one telling you better luck next year. What am I supposed to look out for on the sideline? Coaches getting flustered, because you cannot get anything going offensively or defensively? Coach Mize putting ice on the kids trying to get out of the game so they don't get hit again? What exactly am I supposed to look for? By the way is your good QB healthy again, I have not seen you play since he got hurt. You have no chance with the other one.
You are one cocky dude, but I like that. You know a lot and don't mind sharing what you know.

[bubbacoach]

Why Am I Cocky?

[lonny23]

I would actually hate to see Judson leave the 265...they make everybody better in the district.
Judson has like seniority and stuff. Move everybody else into another district.

[lonny23]

In S.A. there are three 5A UIL Districts 25, 26, 27. They are made up of 23 teams. You add into the mix Wagner and Stevens (Steele will probably not be 5A) then you have 25 teams. You take away the teams that will probably go to 4A Clemens and Jefferson that leaves us with 23 teams.
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

27 5A
1. Marshall
2. O'Connor
3. Warren
4. Taft
5. Jay
6. Clark
7. Holmes
8. Stevens

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?
Del Rio won't go into the Corpus district. I still say they go with San Angelo and Midland/Odessa. Either that or Del Rio goes to Laredo.

[bubbacoach]

Del Rio won't go into the Corpus district. I still say they go with San Angelo and Midland/Odessa. Either that or Del Rio goes to Laredo.
YEA I HAVE HEARD THAT TWO OF THE cc SCHOOL WILL BE MOVING DOWN TO 4A. iF THE ENLARGED DISTRICT THING IS TRUE DEL RIO MAY STILL BE IN NORTHSIDE.

[SeguinMatadors]

In S.A. there are three 5A UIL Districts 25, 26, 27. They are made up of 23 teams. You add into the mix Wagner and Stevens (Steele will probably not be 5A) then you have 25 teams. You take away the teams that will probably go to 4A Clemens and Jefferson that leaves us with 23 teams.
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

27 5A
1. Marshall
2. O'Connor
3. Warren
4. Taft
5. Jay
6. Clark
7. Holmes
8. Stevens

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?

I think that is a good job. 25 would still be a little weaker than 26 but it would be better.

I still maintain the fact that if four teams are going to make the playoffs from each district they need to go to 9 or 10 team districts; problem with that is you eliminate rivalry games like Seguin-New Braunfels; if it is a 9 team district you can still get two non district games and a 10 team district 1. I think I like a 9 team district with four teams getting in.

O’Conner still owns 27. In 26 it would still be a dogfight with the exception of Lee. In 25, unless Judson somehow becomes dominate again (which I don't see in the near future), I think Seguin, Wagner, Judson, and SM would all be battling for 3 playoff spots.

I really hope Seguin stays in San Antonio because the football atmosphere is just a lot better. Not to mention the San Antonio high school football coverage is light years ahead of Austin’s.

[bubbacoach]

Only Time Will Tell Where We Will All End Up. And Next Year It Will Be Four Playoff Teams. I Think They Ought To Go Back To The Old Days And Make It Just One. Let The Best Of The Best Decide It.

[sendero]

Only Time Will Tell Where We Will All End Up. And Next Year It Will Be Four Playoff Teams. I Think They Ought To Go Back To The Old Days And Make It Just One. Let The Best Of The Best Decide It.


The UIL doesn't want to lose that gate revenue. I know what you mean though there were a lot of 9-1 teams sitting at home some years. If memory serves Southlake even had problems trying to get out of district with Pilot Point in PP's heyday.

[Go Buffs]

(Steele will probably not be 5A)...
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

Pretty good list bubba, but I'd bet they would have Judson and Wagner in 26 and SV in 25, keeping the JISD/NEISD mix going and leaving both districts with even numbers.

Also, going only by the numbers that Steele opened with (930's), and not knowing the final numbers turned in during the October count, I wouldn't be surprised if Steele qualified as a 3A school in the new alignments. If so, they could dominate right off the bat, since they'd probably open next year with about 1300-1400 students. :eek:

[clemensbuff]

Pretty good list bubba, but I'd bet they would have Judson and Wagner in 26 and SV in 25, keeping the JISD/NEISD mix going and leaving both districts with even numbers.

Also, going only by the numbers that Steele opened with (930's), and not knowing the final numbers turned in during the October count, I wouldn't be surprised if Steele qualified as a 3A school in the new alignments. If so, they could dominate right off the bat, since they'd probably open next year with about 1300-1400 students. :eek:

My niece is a freshman this year and in athletics and my sister tells me that they were a 904! What is the cutoff for 3a anyway?

[Rerun]

they only got 9,10, and 11 graders there pal. add in another at least 300 for next year and you get 1200+

[clemensbuff]

they only got 9,10, and 11 graders there pal. add in another at least 300 for next year and you get 1200+

I understand that fully, but won't the UIL use this year's enrollment numbers or will they add 33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333% to allow for the added grade level next year?

[Rerun]

I understand that fully, but won't the UIL use this year's enrollment numbers or will they add 33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333% to allow for the added grade level next year?

they will add it.

if they dont they are morons.

wanna hear some screwed up stuff tho. check the info on the comal isd web site that says the new high school there will have 7 and 8 graders for the first few years.

[clemensbuff]

they will add it.

if they dont they are morons.

wanna hear some screwed up stuff tho. check the info on the comal isd web site that says the new high school there will have 7 and 8 graders for the first few years.

Abosolutely nothing from the UIL could surpise me! I'm currently working on that project right now and have 25 of my men on it. It will not open next fall as was originally planned. 7th and 8th graders huh, where in the hell did that come from?

[Go Buffs]

My niece is a freshman this year and in athletics and my sister tells me that they were a 904! What is the cutoff for 3a anyway?
The 3A cutoff for the last realignment was right around 900, but that usually increases every time to accomodate the rise in the 4A to 5A cutoff. I wonder if Headliner is right that they take into account the extra class coming next year, or if that's something you have to appeal to them to do?

[clemensbuff]

The 3A cutoff for the last realignment was right around 900, but that usually increases every time to accomodate the rise in the 4A to 5A cutoff. I wonder if Headliner is right that they take into account the extra class coming next year, or if that's something you have to appeal to them to do?

I don't know, but Headliner is usually right on the $ with what he says! It would be nice to see them start as a 3a and build some confidence. But, from what I'm hearing, their JV and Freshman teams have faired pretty well this year and they are really excited about next. I think they will do OK and be very competitive in 4a out of the gate! Whether they can compete next year with the Canyons, AH, Tivy, and Boerne I really know, but I'd say they can put it on most of the 4a's around here!

[lonny23]

Ladies and gentlemen, your largest 3A schools have 899 students.

Take a bow Palestine and Wichita Falls Hirschi (Squirts!) :p

[bubbacoach]

When new schools open the Uil uses a project enrollment. They figure what they have with the freshmen, sophmore, and Junior now and project what they will have when the new freshmen class comes in. So if they are at 900 right now with the three classes, probably mostly sophmores and freshmen with a few juniors. There enrollment figures that they will turn in will be about 1250. That would put Steele solidly in 4A. :D

[clemensbuff]

When new schools open the Uil uses a project enrollment. They figure what they have with the freshmen, sophmore, and Junior now and project what they will have when the new freshmen class comes in. So if they are at 900 right now with the three classes, probably mostly sophmores and freshmen with a few juniors. There enrollment figures that they will turn in will be about 1250. That would put Steele solidly in 4A. :D

Why 1250 bubbacoach? My math I learned at Clemens says that 900 divided by 3 = 300. So wouldn't they add 300 to the 900 and make it an even 1200? LOL

Seriously, thanks for the input on this one bubbacoach. I was just hoping that we would start Steele at a 3a and let them smoke Marion for a couple of years! LOL

[bubbacoach]

Why 1250 bubbacoach? My math I learned at Clemens says that 900 divided by 3 = 300. So wouldn't they add 300 to the 900 and make it an even 1200? LOL

Seriously, thanks for the input on this one bubbacoach. I was just hoping that we would start Steele at a 3a and let them smoke Marion for a couple of years! LOL

Because your classed are not divided evenly. If you do some research the freshmen class is ussually the largest at any school. Especially a new school. There are very few Juniors because they are ussually given the option to stay at their old school.

[clemensbuff]

Because your classed are not divided evenly. If you do some research the freshmen class is ussually the largest at any school. Especially a new school. There are very few Juniors because they are ussually given the option to stay at their old school.

Like I've said before, I'll always seek your wisdom on matters like this. Thanks for the info.

I have one more question for you. What do you think about Ferrara and Hoffman at Clemens? If you do not want to post here please send private message.

[bubbacoach]

Like I've said before, I'll always seek your wisdom on matters like this. Thanks for the info.

I have one more question for you. What do you think about Ferrara and Hoffman at Clemens? If you do not want to post here please send private message.
I think they are both good coaches and Clemens has a bright future with them at the helm.

[Rerun]

I think they are both outstanding coaches that know whats going on.

I have played for Hoffman and he is very good at what he does. A great and an even better man. Same goes for Ferrera. I really enjoyed my years roaming the field house as a Buff.

[clemensbuff]

I think they are both outstanding coaches that know whats going on.

I have played for Hoffman and he is very good at what he does. A great and an even better man. Same goes for Ferrera. I really enjoyed my years roaming the field house as a Buff.

I do not really know Ferrara on a personal basis, but have spoken with him on occasion. He seems to me to be a real genuine person.

Steve Hoffman is as good as they come and has been a friend for over 20 years! He is one hell of a coach and even better person as you have stated. He practices what he preaches!!

[lonny23]

Why 1250 bubbacoach? My math I learned at Clemens says that 900 divided by 3 = 300. So wouldn't they add 300 to the 900 and make it an even 1200? LOL

Seriously, thanks for the input on this one bubbacoach. I was just hoping that we would start Steele at a 3a and let them smoke Marion for a couple of years! LOL
Here's Lonny's math. 900 kids in 9-11 does not equal 1200 in 9-12. 9 is always the biggest and 12 is the smallest. A new school will have less 11's than normal because of staying at the old school.

If we have 900 in 05-06, I'll say:
400 Freshmen
350 Sophomores
150 Juniors
0 Seniors

06-07 (1550):
500 Freshmen
450 Sophomores
400 Juniors
200 Seniors

07-08 (2060):
600 Freshmen
540 Sophomores
490 Juniors
430 Seniors

[clemensbuff]

Here's Lonny's math. 900 kids in 9-11 does not equal 1200 in 9-12. 9 is always the biggest and 12 is the smallest. A new school will have less 11's than normal because of staying at the old school.

If we have 900 in 05-06, I'll say:
400 Freshmen
350 Sophomores
150 Juniors
0 Seniors

06-07 (1550):
500 Freshmen
450 Sophomores
400 Juniors
200 Seniors

07-08 (2060):
600 Freshmen
540 Sophomores
490 Juniors
430 Seniors

Your math better be wrong because this school was not built for 2000 kids!

[Rerun]

if you think SCUCISD is going to slow down growing keep dreaming.

portables. they will be Steele very soon.