View Full Version : WHY is "Strake Jesuit 23 Katy Taylor 20 CLOSED?
Drake
10-23-2005, 07:51 PM
There was heated debate in the thread, but it very civil and mature. WHY did the administrator, KT2000, close the thread. While I know from reading his post he detests Strake Jesuit, he should realize that as high school football fans, we like to discuss our team and its season just as much as the powerhouse schools in the state like to talk about their's. There were hundreds of reads on the thread and three pages of replies. WHY in the world would KT2000 close the thread? Perhaps he didn't like the way the debate was going?
This is a pretty cool site, and its nice to have a place to go and tout players and teams and discuss issues. It's a shame if civil discourse is censored or deleted just because he doesn't agree with the content.
TigerV1
10-23-2005, 08:02 PM
There was heated debate in the thread, but it very civil and mature. WHY did the administrator, KT2000, close the thread. While I know from reading his post he detests Strake Jesuit, he should realize that as high school football fans, we like to discuss our team and its season just as much as the powerhouse schools in the state like to talk about there's. There were hundreds of reads on the thread and three pages of replies. WHY in the world would KT2000 close the thread?
Because like he said, it had degenerated into a mess of a thread just as every Strake thread seems to do. I think we need to agree to disagree and move on. If Strake is "the real deal" then the playoffs should be a walk in the park for them. God willing Katy and Strake will meet in the Region 3 championship game and we will be able to put this debate to bed.
Drake
10-23-2005, 08:09 PM
Well, thats kind of my point. The way this board is setup, there is a title for each thread and no one has to get involved, respond or even bother reading ANY thread on here. If a few of us want to discuss the why's an what for's of the animosity thats developed between Katy and Strake, so what? Like I said, there were hundreds of views and 3 pages of responses, so someone was interested in the discussion. Of course, it was stopped immediately by KT2000, who is a diehard Katy fanatic, very anti-Strake, and administrator of this board. Its his board, but it just seems a little chicken if you know what I mean.
Red Raiders
10-23-2005, 08:10 PM
Maybe KT2000 wanted Katy to be in Division 1 after Strake beating Katy Taylor. I encourage Katy to be in Division 1.
TigerV1
10-23-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, thats kind of my point. The way this board is setup, there is a title for each thread and no one has to get involved, respond or even bother reading ANY thread on here. If a few of us want to discuss the why's an what for's of the animosity thats developed between Katy and Strake, so what? Like I said, there were hundreds of views and 3 pages of responses, so someone was interested in the discussion. Of course, it was stopped immediately by KT2000, who is a diehard Katy fanatic, very anti-Strake, and administrator of this board. Its his board, but it just seems a little chicken if you know what I mean.
Dude, no need to call him names. The reason he does what he does is because he is experienced in running these huge message boards. He's seen where these things can go if the discussion gets out of hand.
Also, he may be a Katy fan, but if there is anyone on here who is fair and balanced its him. It appears that you are just really intent on making people mad.
Red Raiders
10-23-2005, 08:17 PM
Dude, no need to call him names. The reason he does what he does is because he is experienced in running these huge message boards. He's seen where these things can go if the discussion gets out of hand.
Also, he may be a Katy fan, but if there is anyone on here who is fair and balanced its him. It appears that you are just really intent on making people mad.
I agree with you, Nobody should call KT names because he did all of this for all of us. No one should blame him!!!
KT2000
10-23-2005, 09:04 PM
Maybe KT wants to keep this board clean. KT closed the thread because the debate is more than old on both sides. I can talk about myself in the third person too, lol.
I let it go three pages before locking. That seems pretty fair to me.
htownfootball
10-23-2005, 09:38 PM
ya its all good its not a big deal. just post stuff with back up info and you wont have anything to worry about.
KT2000
10-23-2005, 09:54 PM
Quite frankly, I don't need to back myself up. If it's locked, there's a good reason.
rwilleby
10-23-2005, 09:58 PM
One things for sure, Katy and Strake are the only two schools in 19 5A that show up on here, as far as I can tell... So there's one thing we both have in common, we both support our teams... Can't be anything wrong with that...
I'm sorry the other schools aren't more involved with their teams... It's sad to see empty stands for kids playing so hard to win... Just my opinion...
ktCarl
10-23-2005, 10:11 PM
Yep, I was very suprised at Strake's small fan base. The Strake kids are undefeated and hardly anyone showed up to cheer for them. Maybe they save it all for home games. Taylor had a good sized crowd.
rwilleby
10-23-2005, 10:17 PM
Well they're not alone in that deal and I didn't mean Strake specifically... My point is that we seem to be the only schools in 19 5A on this board and I find it interesting that no one else wants to talk about their school...
Astro's just tied 6-6...
ThEgReAtOnE
10-23-2005, 10:21 PM
One things for sure, Katy and Strake are the only two schools in 19 5A that show up on here, as far as I can tell... So there's one thing we both have in common, we both support our teams... Can't be anything wrong with that...
I'm sorry the other schools aren't more involved with their teams... It's sad to see empty stands for kids playing so hard to win... Just my opinion...
I second that!!
ktCarl
10-23-2005, 10:37 PM
Well they're not alone in that deal and I didn't mean Strake specifically... My point is that we seem to be the only schools in 19 5A on this board and I find it interesting that no one else wants to talk about their school...
Astro's just tied 6-6...
Right....You would think Cinco Ranch and Katy Taylor fans would be posting here. There's one guy who is an Elsik Ram fan that occasionally posts here and on the Katy site. No other Alief posters to be found.
Drake
10-23-2005, 11:10 PM
Maybe KT wants to keep this board clean. KT closed the thread because the debate is more than old on both sides. I can talk about myself in the third person too, lol.
I let it go three pages before locking. That seems pretty fair to me.
Hmmm... Well, there's a debate going on in the "school prayer" thread thats thousands of years old and 8 pages long on your board. Getting pretty nasty too. You didn't seem to find any problem or cause on that thread to shut it down.
No, I think the problem here is that you're not used to anyone standing up to you and you don't know how to handle it, especially when words getting out about how "over-the-top Friday Night Lights" Katy fans really are.
Did you know I read a post on your Katy board tonight that asked everyone to forgive a DB for getting burned last night "because he never let us down before". LOL, let WHO down? Is THAT the kind of pressure you're putting on those high school kids?
OfficerCartman
10-23-2005, 11:25 PM
Dude you're crazy. You think no one has ever disagreed with Katy fans? You think Katy has never lost? This thread is headed quickly towards being locked too.
Cowards.
KT2000
10-23-2005, 11:27 PM
I've been doing this a long time. You and the other Strake fans who've called me out have given me a good laugh if anything. I hate to rain on the parade by revealing you're not the first, or the last for that matter.
As far as the comments you saw, I wouldn't read into it too much. Poor word choice happens. No, we don't duct tape the players when they fumble either. The huge majority of the people who support Katy (in my experience) are grateful for all of the success and don't take it for granted.
htownfootball
10-24-2005, 12:33 AM
i meant back up to the strake guy kt2000 chill out
katy versus strake jesuit
and im wondering what did the strake guys put on the message board that had them banned?
htownfootball
10-24-2005, 05:00 AM
looks like strake might have their hands full come first round with the new week 9 d2 predictions in the playoffs with 7-0 FB Marshall who have defeated rival and perenial football power houst hightower HS. strake had clements for the weeks before this and that was a game that could have been a whole lot easier for the crusaders.
my prediction:
strake goes 9-0 in the regular season (who wouldve thought even if there was a game vs katy would anyone have prediction jesuit going 9-1 into the playoffs? nooo haha.) and plays FB Marshall in the 1st round of the playoffs.
rwilleby
10-24-2005, 05:31 AM
Oh man, this is like an accident on the freeway... You know you don't want to look, but you still drive by slower than normal... :)
KT2000: You locked the thread before I could say you were probably right to lock it if we didn't act nice... I was just goofing around with the Strake guys... It seems really easy to do and I just can't help myself...
Strake Posters: No reason to jump on the ADMIN for locking the thread... I admit I was a little surprised that it was locked before the tone could change, but now I see that the tone would have probably been the same...
ktCarl
10-24-2005, 06:25 AM
looks like strake might have their hands full come first round with the new week 9 d2 predictions in the playoffs with 7-0 FB Marshall who have defeated rival and perenial football power houst hightower HS. strake had clements for the weeks before this and that was a game that could have been a whole lot easier for the crusaders.
my prediction:
strake goes 9-0 in the regular season (who wouldve thought even if there was a game vs katy would anyone have prediction jesuit going 9-1 into the playoffs? nooo haha.) and plays FB Marshall in the 1st round of the playoffs.
Thanks for sticking to football HTOWN. This thread and previous ones like it are fruitless.
FB Marshall coaches were sitting on Taylor's side scouting the game so they apparently are confident they meet with you in 1st round.
t00 playa
10-24-2005, 07:51 AM
looks like strake might have their hands full come first round with the new week 9 d2 predictions in the playoffs with 7-0 FB Marshall who have defeated rival and perenial football power houst hightower HS. strake had clements for the weeks before this and that was a game that could have been a whole lot easier for the crusaders.
my prediction:
strake goes 9-0 in the regular season (who wouldve thought even if there was a game vs katy would anyone have prediction jesuit going 9-1 into the playoffs? nooo haha.) and plays FB Marshall in the 1st round of the playoffs.
hightower? a perennial football power? :eek:
LakePride06
10-24-2005, 08:53 AM
wow Strake fans sound worse than lake fans, I mean seriously until you beat the katy-juggernaut... then you no talkie.
I can put it in perspective too. Lake is TERRIBLE this year, udderly terrible. We lost to Katy Taylor 21-14, and the game was wayyy closer than that. You beat Katy Taylor by a field goal. I would buy you balloons and streamers, but the katy team you beat isn't the one that wins your district every year. From one school who's had a good streak to another, wait until you win a few in the playoffs to go post-crazy.
but congrats on being undefeated
Drake
10-24-2005, 09:32 AM
Lake,
I don't get what seems to be the prevailing attitude here. I don't understand why we have to be an SLC, Katy, or Euless Trinity to crow about our team? No one is saying we're better than those teams and I haven't seen any pro-Strake posts that have trumpeted unreasonable expectations. If you can point to ONE post that touts Strake Jesuit as a state juggernaut or even better than Katy, I'd like to see it.
However, our kids started the year picked no better than 4th in their district, had probably the smallest roster in the district, were decimated by injuries the first game, and lost their head coach for several games to a heart attack. To date they are 7-0 and personally I am proud of them and believe all should admire them for making the playoffs regardless of who they have or haven't played or how the rest of their season unfolds. At this point, I find it almost unAmerican to slight their team or its' accomplishments in any way. I mean, you did pull for Rocky in all those movies, didn't you?
I will admit that I have probably been over-the-top myself in taking exception with some of the Katy fans, especially the ones that show up at our games to root against us. But given the circumstances mentioned above, perhaps you can understand why I so adamently stand up for everyone involved in the Strake Jesuit program.
Fleeman93
10-24-2005, 09:51 AM
Strake,
Not that it makes one bit of difference, but I will explain why I go to jesuit games and cheer for the other team (have done it twice - MC and K Taylor). For whatever reason your administration chose not to play a game that they knew for a 100% fact that they would lose. By doing that there is a chance that the jesuits could share something with Katy that the jesuits do not deserve (see 19-5A District Title). For the reason listed above I will support any team that can put the jesuits in their rightful place (second place in district at best). Is it unsportsman like? In the jesuit's eyes I would guess yes, but to me as a Katy fan, the jesuits choosing to not play Katy was the only unsportsman like issue. The jesuits do not deserve a share of the district title and we all know that. Before the schools voted to not make up the games a point should have been made that any tie between teams (district title or playoffs) that did not make up their games would result in a loss for the teams that chose not to make up the games.
Drake
10-24-2005, 10:07 AM
For whatever reason your administration chose not to play a game that they knew for a 100% fact that they would lose. By doing that there is a chance that the jesuits could share something with Katy that the jesuits do not deserve (see 19-5A District Title).
I completely understand your feelings and even understand where your animosity comes from. I'll make just two quick points and perhaps you can understand my feelings too.
First, regardless of whether you have justification for wearing your Katy RED and cheering against our boys at our games or not, SURELY you can understand WHY it would upset me and some other Strake fans when you do it?
Second, our team was decimated by injuries, had its head coach in the hospital, and, as you say, had 0% chance to win. WHY in the world do you expect Jesuit officials to do anything other than what's best for THEIR team? 4 teams voted not to make up missed games, I'm sure each had their own reasons and I'm certain each were looking out for their own interests. What is unreasonable about that?
By the way, aren't these boards great? Everyone can share there thoughts, their side when there is a dispute, and point our wonderful performances when they would otherwise go unnoticed. Freedom of thoughts and ideas without censorship... the American way.
Fleeman93
10-24-2005, 10:28 AM
I completely understand your feelings and even understand where your animosity comes from. I'll make just two quick points and perhaps you can understand my feelings too.
First, regardless of whether you have justification for wearing your Katy RED and cheering against our boys at our games or not, SURELY you can understand WHY it would upset me and some other Strake fans when you do it? Not that wearing RED to a football game needs justification, but if you ask any of the fans from the top programs in the state what color shirt they were to other teams games then they will say their color. Katy fans have a lot of pride and have no problems or worries about showing it.
Second, our team was decimated by injuries, had its head coach in the hospital, and, as you say, had 0% chance to win. WHY in the world do you expect Jesuit officials to do anything other than what's best for THEIR team? 4 teams voted not to make up missed games, I'm sure each had their own reasons and I'm certain each were looking out for their own interests. What is unreasonable about that? All teams have to overcome some sort of adversities over the course of the year. I am very sorry for your injuries and your coach. I agree 100% about what the jesuit administration did as far as the Katy game went, but I am guessing that they will have no problem hanging that district title flag that they don't deserve. I am the one that started the whole jesuit coward thing and I stand by it 100%. Regardless of the reasons, the jesuits chose not to play a game that they knew they couldn't win.
By the way, aren't these boards great? Everyone can share there thoughts, their side when there is a dispute, and point our wonderful performances when they would otherwise go unnoticed. Freedom of thoughts and ideas without censorship... the American way. These boards are great.
By the way, congrats to the jesuits on beating K Taylor. I had no doubt in my mind that Taylor would win that game. Guess that just shows how average Taylor is this year.
chap fan
10-24-2005, 10:30 AM
Hey folks, I'm not from Houston, and I don't have a dog in this fight. But let me try to lend some outside perspective on this.
There are still a lot of hard feelings among many public school people about admitting parochial schools to the UIL. I don't count myself as one of those, but everyone has to be aware of that. We don't have any parochial school members here in the Austin area, and it's really not an issue here. Second, I read about the vote by the Strake/Katy district not to make up the games lost to Rita and the political coup of the Alief schools and Strake ganging up on Katy. Was it "right"? It's certainly not a way to win friends and influence people.
Now Strake has to deal with some very disgruntled Katy fans. While I can't imagine going out of my way to go to another school's game to root against them, it's obviously going on.
I encourage all sides to this to settle their differences on the field and try to set an example of good sportsmanship off the field for the kids. Life often deals us raw deals we can't change, and it is more important to teach our children how to responsibly and honorably deal with those situations than it is to retaliate against those who wronged us. Often victory on the athletic field in a fair contest is more satisfying than clandestine dirty deeds or public tongue lashings.
So, I don't see a problem with expressing frustration on these message boards, but I'd have to draw the line at the deliberately attending games to root against the schools I'm mad at.
I know neither side asked for that opinion, but I encourage you not to forget about the example you are setting for the kids in working through this.
Fleeman93
10-24-2005, 10:42 AM
I understand 100% what you are saying Chap, but most people outside of Katy probably wouldn't understand. No one in Katy made the choice for hurricane Rita to hit. No one in Katy made the choice for the jesuits and the Alief schools to vote to not make up the missed games. Fans from one program support other teams all the time. I bet to this point in the season I am averaging about 3 games a week and of course only one of the games is a Katy game. Am I wrong for going to another team's game and cheering for them? I don't expect anyone to feel the way I do about the matter, but unless you are a fan then your probably just can't.
Drake
10-24-2005, 10:49 AM
Fleeman,
If being co-district champs is a major bone of contention then all I can offer is what my mom used to tell me, "don't borrow trouble, it hasn't happened yet."
While its a given that Katy will finish the regular season undefeated, its far from a certainty for Strake.
But if Strake is lucky or good enough to finish the regular season undefeated and are awarded co-champions, I don't see in any way how that would tarnish Katy's district championship season and I see no reason Strake's should be belittled.
After all, we're talking about HS kids here. I don't want Katy players thinking a 9-0 co-champion is less an accomplishment than 10-0 Champion, just like I don't think Strake kids should have to hear the "yeah, buts..."
Like I said, both teams are having great years. Katy could win it all. Lets not take anything away from either team by making either team's kids think that by not playing that one game their accomplishments are not as admired or appreciated.
TigerV1
10-24-2005, 10:54 AM
Fleeman,
If being co-district champs is a major bone of contention then all I can offer is what my mom used to tell me, "don't borrow trouble, it hasn't happened yet."
While its a given that Katy will finish the regular season undefeated, its far from a certainty for Strake.
But if Strake is lucky or good enough to finish the regular season undefeated and are awarded co-champions, I don't see in any way how that would tarnish Katy's district championship season and I see no reason Strake's should be belittled.
After all, we're talking about HS kids here. I don't want Katy players thinking a 9-0 co-champion is less an accomplishment than 10-0 Champion, just like I don't think Strake kids should have to hear the "yeah, buts..."
Like I said, both teams are having great years. Katy could win it all. Lets not take anything away from either team by making either team's kids think that by not playing that one game their accomplishments are not as appreciated.
yeah, but.... ;)
TheOnceandFutureKnight
10-24-2005, 11:43 AM
WHY in the world do you expect Jesuit officials to do anything other than what's best for THEIR team?
Because leaders of young men are supposed to lead by example and do what's right and what's moral, not what's best for a football team. Even more a slap in the face when it's done by the leader of a religious school that states on its own web site:
"Since our founding by Fr. Michael Kennelly, S.J. in 1960, Strake Jesuit has been educating boys from the Houston area to become Men for Others."
and
"Our mission is focused on graduating young men who, through our rigorous training, reflect our ideals of being intellectually competent, open to growth, religious, loving, and <b> committed to doing justice." </b>
I sure hope whoever cast the vote for strake in the 19-5a DEC took off his WWJD bracelet first.
Fleeman93
10-24-2005, 12:02 PM
Fleeman,
If being co-district champs is a major bone of contention then all I can offer is what my mom used to tell me, "don't borrow trouble, it hasn't happened yet." I don't know what "trouble" you speak of, but your Mom was not a Katy Tiger fan.
While its a given that Katy will finish the regular season undefeated, its far from a certainty for Strake. It is not a given that Katy will finish the regular season undefeated. We still have two games to play that are on the schedule. Yes, Strake going undefeated is certainly uncertain.
But if Strake is lucky or good enough to finish the regular season undefeated and are awarded co-champions, I don't see in any way how that would tarnish Katy's district championship season and I see no reason Strake's should be belittled. In my opinion it would tarnish Katy's district title because they would be sharing with a team that did not earn it. For the jesuits to be able to claim a district title is a joke to me.
After all, we're talking about HS kids here. I don't want Katy players thinking a 9-0 co-champion is less an accomplishment than 10-0 Champion, just like I don't think Strake kids should have to hear the "yeah, buts..." Yes and no. There will always be "yeah buts" when a team chooses not to play a game with a team then share a title with them.
Like I said, both teams are having great years. Katy could win it all. Lets not take anything away from either team by making either team's kids think that by not playing that one game their accomplishments are not as admired or appreciated. You make a very good point here. If by chance the jesuits do go undefeated and claim a district title then one can easily say they did not accomplish that therefor it shouldn't be admired or appreciated.
Just my two cents.
t00 playa
10-24-2005, 12:07 PM
Fleeman,
If being co-district champs is a major bone of contention then all I can offer is what my mom used to tell me, "don't borrow trouble, it hasn't happened yet."
While its a given that Katy will finish the regular season undefeated, its far from a certainty for Strake.
But if Strake is lucky or good enough to finish the regular season undefeated and are awarded co-champions, I don't see in any way how that would tarnish Katy's district championship season and I see no reason Strake's should be belittled.
After all, we're talking about HS kids here. I don't want Katy players thinking a 9-0 co-champion is less an accomplishment than 10-0 Champion, just like I don't think Strake kids should have to hear the "yeah, buts..."
Like I said, both teams are having great years. Katy could win it all. Lets not take anything away from either team by making either team's kids think that by not playing that one game their accomplishments are not as admired or appreciated.
maybe because they avoided the best team in thier district? a "win" off the field doesnt garner much merit.. therefore i think thats where the beef is..but anyway.... the kids play who is on thier schedule.... i guess thats all you can do....
ktCarl
10-24-2005, 12:18 PM
I went to Taylor/Strake to root for Taylor and to see a good matchup. I also went to Northshore/Elsik to see what NS had this year. I go to other games because I CAN and find high school football very entertaining. I would have made the Lufkin/Klein game but it was moved to a Wed. nite. Can't do those mid-week games. I also try to make playoff games that don't involve Katy. So, if I want to go to a game to root against Strake, I will. Don't let that get under your skin.
htownfootball
10-24-2005, 01:15 PM
what do yall think are the chances for strake in their game vs FB Marshall?
Drake
10-24-2005, 01:18 PM
htown, someone posed the question 'is Strake in the playoffs for sure?" in another thread. Are they? I didn't know.
htownfootball
10-24-2005, 01:24 PM
ya they are
are you a student or an alum or what
Drake
10-24-2005, 01:38 PM
student or alum? I WISH! I'm in that category in between... I'm a PPT (parent paying tuition)
TIGER07
10-24-2005, 05:45 PM
student or alum? I WISH! I'm in that category in between... I'm a PPT (parent paying tuition)
As a parent you should be ashamed of yourself for making the comments that you have about KT2000. If the title of a thread isn't Katy/Strake, please leave us out of it, trust me it is best for all. The game did not happen and is not going to. Time to move on.
ktCarl
10-24-2005, 05:51 PM
what do yall think are the chances for strake in their game vs FB Marshall?
Haven't got a clue about FB Marshall. No one from Ft. Bend posts here. They are 7-0 and were scouting the Taylor/Strake game.
KT2000
10-24-2005, 05:54 PM
Marshall would be a worthy opponent. They have one of the top total offenses in the Houston area. They run the spread and have a dual-threat QB. They have a lot of gifted athletes at that school. Not sure how big their roster is, but I don't think it's over 55.
ktCarl
10-24-2005, 06:17 PM
Who is who on the team? They are in our back yard and no one talks about them.
KT2000
10-24-2005, 06:36 PM
Disclaimer: Houston Chronicle numbers...
QB James Thomas (about 1400 yds passing, 630 rushing so far, 20 TDs total)
RB Jai Cavness (6 per carry)
RB Matthew Washington (7 per carry)
RB Moses Lafayette (8 per carry)
WR-RB Quentin Carlock (28.8 per carry, 28 catches for 630 yds)
WR AJ Ruffins (14 pc)
WR Cory Kimble (22 pc)
LB Royzell Smith (saw him man up on Martellus Bennett...6'7...at 7 on 7 last year...the only player there who could do it...he's tall)
DB Marcus Washington
Offense is very balanced run-pass wise. Defense gives up some yards, but offense has been good enough to outscore so far.
KTMOM91
10-25-2005, 09:39 PM
I think some of you are over-reacting just a little bit with regard to whose games people attend and who they cheer for.
I have gone to games of teams not in 19-5A and in 19-5A and cheered for whoever I wanted. That is my choice and a "freedom", as far as I am concerned. Katy may be my team of choice but I have cheered for teams in 17-5a, 20-5A, etc. I enjoy high school football. I have a friend whose son's played for Langham Creek(who were in our district at the time) and when they played against Katy and we sat on the one side of the field or the other together and cheered for both teams. No one in the stands thought anything of it. My question is - if you are so busy watching the people in the stands - why go to the game? When I go to a game, I'm there to watch the action on the field - NOT who's in the stands or who they are cheering for.
As some of you do not live in the Katy area, I will tell you the home side of Rhodes Stadium is always packed (SRO). It is to the point, that alot of people have to forget sitting on the home side and have to sit in the visitor's side. It is not by choice, but if you want to see the team play you have to do what you can. I must say that there has never been a problem with this practice where I have been concerned. Most fans of the visiting teams understand why we're there when they look across the field at the "sea of red". I want to thank those fans - they are there for the same reason as I am - they love their team and want to show their support.
That's what football is all about. Just my .02 worth.
ktCarl
10-26-2005, 07:10 AM
I think some of you are over-reacting just a little bit with regard to whose games people attend and who they cheer for.
I have gone to games of teams not in 19-5A and in 19-5A and cheered for whoever I wanted. That is my choice and a "freedom", as far as I am concerned. Katy may be my team of choice but I have cheered for teams in 17-5a, 20-5A, etc. I enjoy high school football. I have a friend whose son's played for Langham Creek(who were in our district at the time) and when they played against Katy and we sat on the one side of the field or the other together and cheered for both teams. No one in the stands thought anything of it. My question is - if you are so busy watching the people in the stands - why go to the game? When I go to a game, I'm there to watch the action on the field - NOT who's in the stands or who they are cheering for.
As some of you do not live in the Katy area, I will tell you the home side of Rhodes Stadium is always packed (SRO). It is to the point, that alot of people have to forget sitting on the home side and have to sit in the visitor's side. It is not by choice, but if you want to see the team play you have to do what you can. I must say that there has never been a problem with this practice where I have been concerned. Most fans of the visiting teams understand why we're there when they look across the field at the "sea of red". I want to thank those fans - they are there for the same reason as I am - they love their team and want to show their support.
That's what football is all about. Just my .02 worth.
WOW. Do I know you? There's a bunch of us Katy fans that go to see other teams play. We like high school football. I must admit that I cheer for opposing teams to beat Strake but....I also want Taylor, Cinco Ranch and any of our other 19-5A opponents to lose. I will not go to intimidate opposing team supporters. I draw the line there.
Is your husband a poster also?
Do you guys make our tailgate's?
Drake
10-26-2005, 08:02 AM
KTMOM,
I can certainly appreciate your love of the game. I attend games I'm interested in or are nearby for the sake of enjoyment too. I attended Katy-Woodlands and Baytown Lee-Spring Westfield just to see the teams.
I took exception in previous post to Katy fans (in red) at Strake games who were only there to cheer AGAINST Strake because of animosty towards Strake. If that wasn't your, or anyone else's motivation, then it wasn't directed at you. Even if i did take exception, I certainly never said they didn't have a RIGHT to be there, just that it seemed unsportsmanlike in my eyes. (hence the post on an "opinion" board)
I'm over it and I've noticed the tone on the message boards between Katy and Strake posters have mellowed quite a bit recently. I think that's good. I think it has mellowed because (1) Strake's supporters are just like most people, in awe of Katy's program and success and just looking to fit in because we need a place to compete, and (2) the Katy fans, by attending our games, have gained some admiration for the effort our under-manned team is putting forth while trying to compete. Again, just my opinion. :)
Katy and Strake both want the other to lose a game to have an outright championship. It's just like certain teams will be rooting against another to make the playoffs. It happens every year. Since it won't be decided on the field, we're stuck rooting against each other. (hopefully civily)
rwilleby
10-26-2005, 08:48 AM
I'm over it and I've noticed the tone on the message boards between Katy and Strake posters have mellowed quite a bit recently. I think that's good. I think it has mellowed because (1) Strake's supporters are just like most people, in awe of Katy's program and success and just looking to fit in because we need a place to compete, and (2) the Katy fans, by attending our games, have gained some admiration for the effort our under-manned team is putting forth while trying to compete. Again, just my opinion. :)
Works for me too... :)
lonny23
10-26-2005, 09:00 AM
Because like he said, it had degenerated into a mess of a thread just as every Strake thread seems to do. I think we need to agree to disagree and move on. If Strake is "the real deal" then the playoffs should be a walk in the park for them. God willing Katy and Strake will meet in the Region 3 championship game and we will be able to put this debate to bed.
Strake won't even get far enough to lose to Katy.
lonny23
10-26-2005, 09:02 AM
I agree with you, Nobody should call KT names because he did all of this for all of us. No one should blame him!!!
Nobody should call KT names because he's the one that bans us. ;)
lonny23
10-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Hmmm... Well, there's a debate going on in the "school prayer" thread thats thousands of years old and 8 pages long on your board. Getting pretty nasty too. You didn't seem to find any problem or cause on that thread to shut it down.
No, I think the problem here is that you're not used to anyone standing up to you and you don't know how to handle it, especially when words getting out about how "over-the-top Friday Night Lights" Katy fans really are.
Did you know I read a post on your Katy board tonight that asked everyone to forgive a DB for getting burned last night "because he never let us down before". LOL, let WHO down? Is THAT the kind of pressure you're putting on those high school kids?
That thread has been locked at least twice so far. It got locked almost immediately and reopened. It got locked again, but is doing better this time. We already have had a warning about keeping it clean.
Drake
10-26-2005, 09:34 AM
Lonny,
Can't you see I'm trying to move on and get along. Why are you muckraking? ;)
lonny23
10-26-2005, 09:39 AM
Lonny,
Can't you see I'm trying to move on and get along. Why are you muckraking? ;)
Hey, I was giving you my value meal of posts. I made a joke, gave my opinion, and tried to correct a statement that I thought was wrong. Those are normal reasons for me to post! As far as the the thread goes, it got a little nicer.
KatyTigerDad0407
10-26-2005, 10:38 AM
Are you tailgating at the Katy Cinco game this Friday? or at the Strake game? I want to go to both. They probably don't allow tail gating at Strake. I also want to go see K-Taylor play(all three games have big bearing on whether we go d1 or d2)
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