Greg McElroy

[southlake thug]

McElroy is putting up very good numbers so far this season, and has led the Dragons to an 8-0 start so far this year. Has he lived up to all the hype so far this season? I personally think that he has exceeded all expectations and proved a good majority of the board members here wrong. He recieved alot of criticism before the year, and has faught threw the advirsity of it all. What do you guys think about his performance so far?


PASSING Yds: 2154 Comp: 140 Att: 212 Comp.: 66% Ints: 4 TDs: 34

RUSHING Yds: 408 Att:90 TDs: 7

[dragons08]

hes definatly done a great job of leading the dragons this year, great job greg!

[BigArab]

*cough* system *cough*

[dragons08]

*cough* system *cough*
hmm chase daniel, hows he doing in college? oh yea he lead mizzou to a come from behind victory last week..cool thing was coach dodge and family as well as daniel and family were there as well

[DragonFan]

There have been more players scoring points this year than any other year the Dragons have been in 5A. That is due to the system but in large part to Greg McElroy. I believe he sees more of the field and can get the ball to the right person. Greg is having another SLC quarterback type of year. Since becoming 5A the QB's have been Case Wassen (most yards by a qb in the state of texas), Case Daniel (2 time PoY), and now Greg McElroy. It is no wonder that SLC and Todd Dodge is called Quarterback U!

[dragonfootballfan]

*cough* system *cough*
you say that but if I were to say that Vondrell McGee were a system runningback you and all of your longview brethren would be jumping all over me. McElroy is doing great

[BigArab]

hmm chase daniel, hows he doing in college? oh yea he lead mizzou to a come from behind victory last week..cool thing was coach dodge and family as well as daniel and family were there as well

Against Iowa State....

And the comment about Vondrell....I wouldn't jump on you. Mainly because it's not true. While we do produce good runningbacks, only one other person in the schools history had a season comparable to Vondrell's (Fred Talley).

1000 yard rushers since 1990:

Chris Butcher (barely over 1000, moved to FS at UT.)
Fred Talley
Willie Andrews (barely over 1000...moved to SS at Baylor)
Jerrel Williams (barely over 1000...went on to have a crappy second season)
Vondrell McGee

This is just a special year. It is possible for this school to have the first ever 1000 yard rushing tandem in school history as well as having the only RB to post back to back 2000 yard seasons.

We'll just say Vondrell is special, and leave it at that.

[drgnbkr]

Arab..why don't you get on the phone & have your coach put in the "system"? Then your team might be as good as Carroll..but I doubt it... :eek:

[BigArab]

Arab..why don't you get on the phone & have your coach put in the "system"? Then your team might be as good as Carroll..but I doubt it... :eek:

Last I checked, not only have we not faced each other, but we haven't faced a mutual opponent yet this year. Kind of hard to base "who's better" on assumptions such as yours. Also, I'm pretty sure we're still 8-0.

Have a nice day!! :D

[drgnbkr]

Your the one saying its just the "cough" system..no? Anybody could do it if they'd just put in the "cough" system..right? Maybe you'd get past Lufkin if you'd just put in the "cough" system... :D

[dragonfootballfan]

Last I checked, not only have we not faced each other, but we haven't faced a mutual opponent yet this year. Kind of hard to base "who's better" on assumptions such as yours. Also, I'm pretty sure we're still 8-0.

Have a nice day!! :D
maybe if you put in the system you can beat lufkin like Carroll has 2 times in the past three years

[BigArab]

maybe if you put in the system you can beat lufkin like Carroll has 2 times in the past three years

OH I didn't realize we were talking about past teams. From what I gather, this thread is about Greg McElroy, the current QB for the SLC Dragons.

Besides, I'd rather die than see my alma mater run that mickey mouse offense.

[dragonfootballfan]

Your the one saying its just the "cough" system..no? Anybody could do it if they'd just put in the "cough" system..right? Maybe you'd get past Lufkin if you'd just put in the "cough" system... :D
lol I posted after you, but did not see your post. we said the same thing, but posted at the same time

[dragonfootballfan]

OH I didn't realize we were talking about past teams. From what I gather, this thread is about Greg McElroy, the current QB for the SLC Dragons.

Besides, I'd rather die than see my alma mater run that mickey mouse offense.
you were the one that brought up the system, which has been in effect the past 4 years. we were discussing the system not the present quarterback

[BigArab]

True, but I'm basing my opinions on the current Quarterback on stats from previous years.

I can bet you we'll see the same thing next year.

QB Riley Dodge

3500+ yards passing
1200+ yards rushing

60 total TDs.

That is my prediction.

[drgnbkr]

True, but I'm basing my opinions on the current Quarterback on stats from previous years.

I can bet you we'll see the same thing next year.

QB Riley Dodge

3500+ yards passing
1200+ yards rushing

60 total TDs.

That is my prediction.

How bout those Dragons! They just keep rollin!.... Even the arab is a believer...:D

[VB Pack Fan]

It the o line that makes the difference. No qb can be effective without a good line.

[southlake thug]

Well all of you guys can see McElroy, Benoist, Agnew, and Coach Dodge on "High School Sports Special" tonight on ABC. They will be guests on the show tonight

[dragons08]

Well all of you guys can see McElroy, Benoist, Agnew, and Coach Dodge on "High School Sports Special" tonight on ABC. They will be guests on the show tonight
its on at 10:45 correct?

[southlake thug]

Yeah I think so

[dragons08]

Yeah I think so
yea i just checked directtv.com and yeah, im surprised that show is like ANTI-Carroll

[southlake thug]

Hah yeah I know. We are lucky if they show any highlights.

[dragons08]

Hah yeah I know. We are lucky if they show any highlights.
oh i know, they'll show all of 5-5a, except the game we play in, the time i heard them speak of dragons, was when they were talking about good qbs, they said "Greg Mcelroy from Southlake Carroll" and that was that, oh also after the DR game, that was a given though

[rich_pack]

I agree, before the seaon started people were not sure what to expect of him, but he has some evry good recievers and a good arm as well. Better yet for the Dragons, I really think Dodge will be even better next season.

[Sakatha]

OH I didn't realize we were talking about past teams. From what I gather, this thread is about Greg McElroy, the current QB for the SLC Dragons.

Besides, I'd rather die than see my alma mater run that mickey mouse offense.

Really... So if it's about the system, then obviously the system works. How many in a row now? 2 out of the last 3 state titles + 1 MNC.

Sounds to me like you'd rather die than finish 1st.

~DnM

[DragonFan]

A system is only as good as the players are, and the players will only be good if they have a complete buy in to how the system works. A lot of times you have to start growing the kids into the system before it starts to click. Coach Dodge has worked with the current kids for 4 years and the benifits are really showing. You have to have the right personel to impliment a system in order for it to be succsseful. At this point in time SLC has the coaching, kids, and support to make the "system" the most prolific and successfull in the State.

[Blitzkreig]

McElroy is putting up very good numbers so far this season, and has led the Dragons to an 8-0 start so far this year. Has he lived up to all the hype so far this season? I personally think that he has exceeded all expectations and proved a good majority of the board members here wrong. He recieved alot of criticism before the year, and has faught threw the advirsity of it all. What do you guys think about his performance so far?


PASSING Yds: 2154 Comp: 140 Att: 212 Comp.: 66% Ints: 4 TDs: 34

RUSHING Yds: 408 Att:90 TDs: 7

As a relatively new and rabid Dragon fan I find interesting to note: According to stat sheets McElroy has stood on sidelines almost 8 quarters this season. That continues to beg questions. Attended a couple of relatively large postgame functions attended by boosters, alums, parents, and between snickers was informed that there are apparently new rules at CHS this year. ’04 QB played almost every minute of every game. For what reason? Stats? Additionally, “QB Carsosel”, fully recognized as an obvious attempt to showcase Jr., appeared to be a standing joke. But what’s the rest of the equation? The “he was not played because of lopsided score“ and dopey “to give him an opportunity to study the defense” bits don’t wash. What does wash is that McElroy’s and his team's tempo continue to be disrupted. Regardless, apparently taking all in stride, McElroy continues to far exceed expections of those who haven’t a clue regarding the talent of this professionally coached (according to Rivals) pro-style QB. He is a rariety at the HS level. System product? Don’t believe so. “System” does however give him an opportunity to display his rare talent. Regarding the tired SLC “SYSTEM” comments, perhaps everyone should adopt the SLC offense if their players are smart and talented enough to operate it.

[BigArab]

As a relatively new and rabid Dragon fan I find interesting to note: According to stat sheets McElroy has stood on sidelines almost 8 quarters this season. That continues to beg questions. Attended a couple of relatively large postgame functions attended by boosters, alums, parents, and between snickers was informed that there are apparently new rules at CHS this year. ’04 QB played almost every minute of every game. For what reason? Stats? Additionally, “QB Carsosel”, fully recognized as an obvious attempt to showcase Jr., appeared to be a standing joke. But what’s the rest of the equation? The “he was not played because of lopsided score“ and dopey “to give him an opportunity to study the defense” bits don’t wash. What does wash is that McElroy’s and his team's tempo continue to be disrupted. Regardless, apparently taking all in stride, McElroy continues to far exceed expections of those who haven’t a clue regarding the talent of this professionally coached (according to Rivals) pro-style QB. He is a rariety at the HS level. System product? Don’t believe so. “System” does however give him an opportunity to display his rare talent. Regarding the tired SLC “SYSTEM” comments, perhaps everyone should adopt the SLC offense if their players are smart and talented enough to operate it.

No, I honestly think a system shortchanges a player. What have these pure pocket passers from Tech done? Nothing...all of them are third stringers for their respective NFL teams and probably won't touch the field. The SYSTEM makes them look good, not the other way around.

[stinger]

Southlake Thug....how much money does it take to get that spot on high school sports? Did you get a receipt? Trinity talks from the field, not from a stool in front of a camera hollering MAKEUP!!!!!

[DragonFan]

If I was a superstisus person, I would worry about SLC's next game. SGP was on last week and then lost to IMac!

[dragonfly]

Last I checked, not only have we not faced each other, but we haven't faced a mutual opponent yet this year. Kind of hard to base "who's better" on assumptions such as yours. Also, I'm pretty sure we're still 8-0.

Have a nice day!! :D

I guess we haven't played each other because you guys can't seem to make it far enough in the playoffs.....oooopppss!

[southlake thug]

Southlake Thug....how much money does it take to get that spot on high school sports? Did you get a receipt? Trinity talks from the field, not from a stool in front of a camera hollering MAKEUP!!!!!


Was this supposed to be a joke? If not, then you are by far the most ignorant person ever. I bet if Trinity was actually invited onto the show, like SLC, they would accept the invitation. Why wouldn't a high school sports show showcase the #1 team in the state. Your just pissed, wait until the playoffs to starting to trash

[drgnbkr]

No, I honestly think a system shortchanges a player. What have these pure pocket passers from Tech done? Nothing...all of them are third stringers for their respective NFL teams and probably won't touch the field. The SYSTEM makes them look good, not the other way around.

I guess if the system makes the Dragons 55-1, we'll keep it! Don't tell anybody, it seems to be working....What else you got?

[Fleeman93]

ESPN has McElroy at #64 and Katy's Andy Dalton at #65. Crazy! Just crazy!

[BAMF cowboy]

Southlake Thug....how much money does it take to get that spot on high school sports? Did you get a receipt? Trinity talks from the field, not from a stool in front of a camera hollering MAKEUP!!!!!

You must have an interesting definition of talking trash...

[ktCarl]

But, shouldn't a QB of a passing offense have big passing numbers?
I saw enough of the spread with Warren Moon and the Oilers in the late 80's early 90's. He always had huge passing stats. The big thing about McElroy to me is that he is a winner and was intellegent enough to pick up Dodge's system quickly. No mattah the stats.

[drgnbkr]

But, shouldn't a QB of a passing offense have big passing numbers?
I saw enough of the spread with Warren Moon and the Oilers in the late 80's early 90's. He always had huge passing stats. The big thing about McElroy to me is that he is a winner and was intellegent enough to pick up Dodge's system quickly. No mattah the stats.

I don't understand your question..Mc is the leading passer in the state I believe, or close to it.

[dragonfootballfan]

I don't understand your question..Mc is the leading passer in the state I believe, or close to it.
no he is saying that an average quarterback could put up big numbers on this team. He is not impressed by numbers, but his leadership ability and winning attitude.

[AG8411]

there are apparently some new leaders in the clubhouse.
link is listed below the current state stats.

Individual Passing
RK Player, School, Class Att Comp Yards Pct INT TD
1 Ross Jenkins, Houston Langham Creek HS, Senior 247 172 2216 69.6 9 19
2 Frank Vera, Laredo JW Nixon High School, Senior 304 176 2211 57.9 12 22
3 Greg McElroy, Southlake Carroll HS, Senior 217 143 2161 65.9 5 33
4 Chase Rich, Austin Westwood High School, Junior 286 161 1925 56.3 13 11
5 Christain Sterling, Sugar Land Elkins HS, Senior 215 130 1860 60.5 7 12
6 Cal Farley, Keller Keller High School, Junior 236 137 1853 58.1 9 12
7 David Garza, Laredo United HS, Senior 163 102 1836 62.6 6 19
8 Josh Phillips, Garland Sachse HS, Senior 239 133 1824 55.6 4 16
9 Peter De La Garza, Harlingen Harlingen High School South, Senior 157 93 1793 59.2 7 15
10 Drew Dunn, Leander Leander High School, Senior 187 121 1780 64.7 6 20
11 Roy Garcia, Corpus Christi W. B. Ray High School, Senior 223 125 1712 56.1 8 13
12 Zak Takacs, Houston Cypress Ridge HS, Senior 231 121 1708 52.4 8 11
13 Adrian Linwood, Garland North Garland HS, Junior 184 86 1657 46.7 8 15
14 Nick Stephens, Flower Mound Flower Mound High School, Senior 223 120 1649 53.8 10 18
15 AUSTIN KNIGHT, Denton Ryan HS, Senior 219 126 1622 57.5 6 8
16 David Castillo, Corpus Christi Foy H. Moody High School, Junior 218 111 1511 50.9 17 11
17 Logan Morris, Corpus Christi Mary Carroll High School, Senior 166 97 1509 58.4 1 21
18 Jeremy Claybon, Lufkin Lufkin HS, Junior 141 81 1500 57.4 6 17
19 Taylor Potts, Abilene Abilene High School, Senior 177 121 1500 68.4 5 10
20 ZACK ESKRIDGE, Rockwall Rockwall High School, Senior 176 105 1488 59.7 4 10
21 kyle mc donald, Haltom City Haltom High School, Junior 225 138 1481 61.3 11 7
22 Martini Castaneda, San Antonio Taft High School, Senior 178 102 1371 57.3 3 13
23 Chris Anagnostou, La Porte La Porte High School, Junior 136 83 1346 61.0 6 17
24 Joe Kemp, North Richland Hills Richland High School, Junior 219 104 1339 47.5 12 10
25 Matt Percle, Irving MacArthur High School, Senior 188 92 1296 48.9 10 10




http://coach.thsca.com/StandingsStats.asp?nav=Pressbox&menu=03&category=stats&type=off

[dragons08]

If I was a superstisus person, I would worry about SLC's next game. SGP was on last week and then lost to IMac!
that was interesting, coach dodge kept looking off it seemed, as if he didnt want to be there, just MO, was this thing previously taped or not?

[southlake thug]

Yes, It was taped Sunday afternoon.

[dragons08]

Yes, It was taped Sunday afternoon.
thats what i thought, because everyweek they have the same background and everything to, so i figured it be taped, and they drove out to x place or whatever, whatd mcelroy say about it, he like it?

[ktCarl]

no he is saying that an average quarterback could put up big numbers on this team. He is not impressed by numbers, but his leadership ability and winning attitude.

EXACTLY!!

Mac has stuff better than stats, apparently.

[dragons08]

EXACTLY!!

Mac has stuff better than stats, apparently.
his numbers are huge, we all know that, but his leadership, is amazing, probally more than we will ever know due to the fact were not on the team or anything, im sure southlake thug can get us some "dirt" on how good of a leader he is

[ThEgReAtOnE]

his numbers are huge, we all know that, but his leadership, is amazing, probally more than we will ever know due to the fact were not on the team or anything, im sure southlake thug can get us some "dirt" on how good of a leader he is

This Gregg kid is exceptional! Can't wait to see him slinging the gun at TTech!

[southlake thug]

He is a good kid. I'll let his actions speak for themselves this year, and hopefully the rest of his "career". It should be interesting to see him and Potts together if everything works out. Tech is deffinetly set at QB for a while.

[Lamont Cranston]

Have noted on various scouting reports on scholar/athlete McElroy specific comments regarding “Character”, “solid grounding“, and “quality family“. Contact with other SLC athletes, folks from community, and DFW area/national QB’s indicates, without exception, nothing but highest regard for him. Unusual in such a competitive environment. Speaks well of all concerned. Regarding his stats: Official stats have him passing 140/205/2185yds/33TDs….completion rate of 68%. He also is credited for an additional 450yds on run; 7yds/carry…which factors in a number of sacks, majority of which occurred in his first game. Not too shabby for a “system player”;) According to coaching staff MAC now holds both single game pass completion and passing TD's/game record for SLC. Like Blitz would like to see him turned loose at least once this season. BTW SLC has a fan in Hong Kong….he passes his best wishes and (phonetic) “Loung Yen”…. i.e., “ This is the Year of The Dragon“. Go Dragons!

[SLCDad]

Have noted on various scouting reports on scholar/athlete McElroy specific comments regarding “Character”, “solid grounding“, and “quality family“. Contact with other SLC athletes, folks from community, and DFW area/national QB’s indicates, without exception, nothing but highest regard for him. Unusual in such a competitive environment. Speaks well of all concerned. Regarding his stats: Official stats have him passing 140/205/2185yds/33TDs….completion rate of 68%. He also is credited for an additional 450yds on run; 7yds/carry…which factors in a number of sacks, majority of which occurred in his first game. Not too shabby for a “system player”;) According to coaching staff MAC now holds both single game pass completion and passing TD's/game record for SLC. Like Blitz would like to see him turned loose at least once this season. BTW SLC has a fan in Hong Kong….he passes his best wishes and (phonetic) “Loung Yen”…. i.e., “ This is the Year of The Dragon“. Go Dragons!Not bad for a QB that sits on the bench every 3rd series. His 33 TDs with only 5 INTs isn't to shabby either.

[BigArab]

Have noted on various scouting reports on scholar/athlete McElroy specific comments regarding “Character”, “solid grounding“, and “quality family“. Contact with other SLC athletes, folks from community, and DFW area/national QB’s indicates, without exception, nothing but highest regard for him. Unusual in such a competitive environment. Speaks well of all concerned. Regarding his stats: Official stats have him passing 140/205/2185yds/33TDs….completion rate of 68%. He also is credited for an additional 450yds on run; 7yds/carry…which factors in a number of sacks, majority of which occurred in his first game. Not too shabby for a “system player”;) According to coaching staff MAC now holds both single game pass completion and passing TD's/game record for SLC. Like Blitz would like to see him turned loose at least once this season. BTW SLC has a fan in Hong Kong….he passes his best wishes and (phonetic) “Loung Yen”…. i.e., “ This is the Year of The Dragon“. Go Dragons!

Doesn't it always seem to be the year of the Dragon?

[dragons08]

Not bad for a QB that sits on the bench every 3rd series. His 33 TDs with only 5 INTs isn't to shabby either.
i thought it was 3rd series of game riley is in, not every 3rd, then they bring back riley usually in the 4th, thats how i thought it worked

[drgnbkr]

No, every 3rd series, Riley is the QB, unless someone rips his helmet off, then he skips a series... :eek:

[dragons08]

No, every 3rd series, Riley is the QB, unless someone rips his helmet off, then he skips a series... :eek:
oh, i guess i lose count sometimes, i dont really watch the 2nd quater, so i dont pay attention to well, (band getting ready and all that stuff) i watch hte plays but usually dont have to time to look at who's in at qb, wr, stuff like that, like i normally do

[ALLSTAR]

Against Iowa State...

hes a true freshman...

[dragonbuck]

No, every 3rd series, Riley is the QB, unless someone rips his helmet off, then he skips a series... :eek:

Don't know what games you are watching, but RD plays the 3rd series without fail, but not every 3rd series. He usually doesn't get a rep at QB in the 3nd qtr; however, he gets most in the 4th.

[dragons08]

Don't know what games you are watching, but RD plays the 3rd series without fail, but not every 3rd series. He usually doesn't get a rep at QB in the 3nd qtr; however, he gets most in the 4th.
oh what now, the band kid was right? and i made an excuse for being wrong to..

[SLCDad]

No, every 3rd series, Riley is the QB, unless someone rips his helmet off, then he skips a series... :eek:Actually, I think it's every 3rd series in each half and, of course, most of the 4th gtr.

[dragons08]

Actually, I think it's every 3rd series in each half and, of course, most of the 4th gtr.
i guess we'll find out friday

[Blitzkreig]

Official stats indicate young McElroy has a total of 4 interceptions/33 passing TD's/6 rushing TDs. Regarding constant loss of helmet. Perhaps if "Jr." is not properly inflating his helmet and fastening all of his helmet straps. Watching w/binocs appears he may be doing neither. See him with a strap hanging allot. Cool but not smart. Believe he has one of the best helmets available. Looks like a Shutte or Adams. Since he is the only player on sidelines with helmet off maybe it's uncomfortable. That could lead him to underinflate. Unfortunately, that's the price of protection. He can't afford another head injury....nor can any player.

[Eagle Hombre]

Found this article in the Abilene Reporter News -- Nice comparison for the two QBs going to TT. They'll make for a good show if SLC goes DII and both of the teams meet up for a rematch.

Attention: Frequent-flier miles might apply
By Danny Reagan / Online Editor
October 25, 2005


A mile of passes in a season. That's no doubt what a couple of hot-shot Class 5A quarterbacks will have by the end of the playoff run when their stats are added together.

Of course, I'm talking about Taylor Potts of Abilene High and Greg McElroy of Southlake Carroll.

For the season so far, McElroy has completed 140 of 212 passes for 2,154 yards and a 66% completion rate, while Potts is 138 of 205 for 67% and 1,784 yards.

The Dragons' aerial slayer also has 34 touchdown passes, while the Eagles' main man has 14.

This is the time of the year when college scouts make sure the stats reflect what they already know about top recruiting prospects.

The numbers for Potts and McElroy just confirm what most people have known for a couple of years - these guys are good!

And unless they get an offer they can't refuse in the meantime, chances are both of them won't be too far away as they head to college.

Texas Tech fans eagerly await National Signing Day in early February 2006, because chances are both will sign on the dotted line for the pass-happy Red Raiders.

How about two miles a season?

[Blitzkreig]

Looking forward to "MAC ATTACK" at the local "theater". However, understand some of the "big boys" that have been hanging around MAC since Spring may be tendering some offers that will be hard to resist. Barely 17, MAC is proving to be the real deal with future development/growth potential. Several of the "hype bulls" have been gored this season. Per scouting reports/analysts, at least three big name QB's in NTX have maxed out. TTech insiders report fine young man/athlete Potts waivering. Footsteps? On the positive side Potts has athleticism, size, but not necessarily speed, to be a great tight end if MAC hangs in. Best to both. Guns Up!