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fitz400
02-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Who do we see standing out above the rest?

stinger
02-11-2008, 07:28 AM
One "man"...Tre Robinson of Trinity. Size, speed, skills, hands,,,everything.

powerofthehaka
02-11-2008, 07:30 AM
One "man"...Tre Robinson of Trinity. Size, speed, skills, hands,,,everything.

http://www.trojansportsvideo.com/Players.html

Fleeman93
02-11-2008, 08:47 AM
http://www.trojansportsvideo.com/Players.html


I didn't see the speed in the video I watched. Any other videos besides the ones linked to his profile?

badger95
02-11-2008, 09:45 AM
Westlake's Ryan Swope :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=68991&sport=1

CSA
02-11-2008, 09:49 AM
I think the Kid from Naaman Forest is going to be one of the best in the DFW area. Jonathan Miller:)

Trinity Alum
02-11-2008, 11:26 AM
I didn't see the speed in the video I watched. Any other videos besides the ones linked to his profile?

He's not a burner. It will be interesting to see how he reacts once he gets back into a "game" due to his injured leg.

chhspantherfan
02-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Go to this list and see 8 Texans on the first page.


http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=4&pid=11&yr=2009

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 11:55 AM
I could skip around blind folded and average 5 a carry behind that Trinity line. There's not a run on that video where he has to make a defender miss before he's already 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

drgnbkr
02-11-2008, 12:43 PM
I could skip around blind folded and average 5 a carry behind that Trinity line. There's not a run on that video where he has to make a defender miss before he's already 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Wow...:eek: You need to take football 101 and get back to us when you pass...:D It would appear that you are skipping around blindfolded while posting.

Plano West Wolf
02-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Plano's Rex Burkhead? I am surprised that he has not been mentioned yet.

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 12:53 PM
Wow...:eek: You need to take football 101 and get back to us when you pass...:D It would appear that you are skipping around blindfolded while posting.

I went ahead and watched his videos again. Still not impressed. Lacks speed and isn't outstanding in any one area. He's not a top 5 running back in the state. His numbers will be padded by the best offensive line in the state.

plano8in08
02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
REXREXREXREXREXREX!!! :notworthy

number one.

stinger
02-11-2008, 01:26 PM
I went ahead and watched his videos again. Still not impressed. Lacks speed and isn't outstanding in any one area. He's not a top 5 running back in the state. His numbers will be padded by the best offensive line in the state.

You do need football 101. Maybe you aren't used to seeing that quality to recognize what it looks like. Is that what you mean by " blindfolded"? Wait and see, Robinson will get at least 1500 yeards next year; and the great thing is his hands, sor his receiving will be among the best with the regular receivers. There are at least 5 plays in the videos that he is carrying players.

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 02:46 PM
You do need football 101. Maybe you aren't used to seeing that quality to recognize what it looks like. Is that what you mean by " blindfolded"? Wait and see, Robinson will get at least 1500 yeards next year; and the great thing is his hands, sor his receiving will be among the best with the regular receivers. There are at least 5 plays in the videos that he is carrying players.

Well if you consider 1,500 yards quality then I think I've seen plenty of it. Pearland has had a back with at least 1,500 yards every year since 1998. With 3 backs in the top 10 all time in yardage for 5A.

I'm not saying this guy isn't a solid running back. He's just not top 5, not at all.

trojanbacker
02-11-2008, 02:48 PM
I like Tre and think he'll have a solid year next year if he can stay healthy. Plus, he's a good receiver out of the backfield and a good blocker. But, top 5 in the state? Not so sure I'll go that far.

Trinity Alum
02-11-2008, 02:49 PM
I like Tre and think he'll have a solid year next year if he can stay healthy. Plus, he's a good receiver out of the backfield and a good blocker. But, top 5 in the state? Not so sure I'll go that far.

I agree, he's good, but not top 5 good.

Eagle81
02-11-2008, 03:27 PM
Plano's Rex Burkhead? I am surprised that he has not been mentioned yet.

Did they redshirt that kid or something. LOL! It seems like he's been playing for them forever.

Plano West Wolf
02-11-2008, 03:33 PM
Did they redshirt that kid or something. LOL! It seems like he's been playing for them forever.

lmfao, no they didn't. I think he's been playing on varsity since he was a freshman. :D I'm not sure, though, you'd might want to get reassurance from a Plano fan about that.

trojanbacker
02-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Rex would get my vote for top 5. He's got it all.

KT2000
02-11-2008, 03:42 PM
Lache Seastrunk of Temple will be one of the top juniors this fall. He averaged over 10 yards per carry as a sophomore.

Christian Michael of Beaumont West Brook is one of the top returning backs in Region 3 along with Kasey Carrier at Pearland and Bo Snelson at Pasadena Memorial. DeAundre Jones and Tracy Woods return for North Shore.

Hasan Lipscomb of Cy Ridge is another top back returning in the Houston area. Lipscomb gets overshadowed by Shepard, but he is also a D1 prospect.

stinger
02-11-2008, 03:48 PM
Well if you consider 1,500 yards quality then I think I've seen plenty of it. Pearland has had a back with at least 1,500 yards every year since 1998. With 3 backs in the top 10 all time in yardage for 5A.

I'm not saying this guy isn't a solid running back. He's just not top 5, not at all.

How many of your backups got 1500 yards, especially with a one back set? He also broke his leg last year. He was used as a receiver lots, which took away from his carries. As for your "every year since 1998" try 3,000 yards. Who are those 3 backs?

KT2000
02-11-2008, 03:53 PM
It will be fun/scary to see what Robinson does as the depth chart #1. He split carries with outstanding backs as a sophomore and junior. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes over 2,000 as a senior.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-11-2008, 04:06 PM
Going by who I've seen on film or in person, these will be my..

Pre-Season Top-5 going into 2008:
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Chris Whaley (6-3 220) - Madisonville
3) Jonathan Miller (6-1 190) - Naaman Forest
4) Rex Burkhead (5-10 190) - Plano
5) Ryan Swope (6-0 190) - Austin Westlake

Houston Area: Top 10
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Dominic Wilkins (5-11 185) - Klein Forest
3) Hasan Lipscomb (5-10 200) - Cypress Ridge
4) Curtis McGregor (5-10 190) - Eisenhower
5) Deaundre Jones (5-8 165) - North Shore
6) Bo Snelson (5-8 180) - Pasadena Memorial
7) Kasey Carrier (5-9 170) - Pearland
8) Ossam Cook (5-8 180) - Klein Oak
9) Knile Davis (6-0 205) - FB Marshall
10) Michael Webber (5-8 185) - Katy

A few others :
Ben Malena (Cedar Hill) (5-10 185)
Dontrayveous Robinson (Euless Trinity) (6-1 200)
Demario Broadnax (5-9 190) (Naaman Forest)
Justin Branch (4A-Texas City) (5-10 200)
AJ Dugat (4A-Dayton) (6-1 200)
Dexter Pratt (3A-Navasota) (6-1 215)

stinger
02-11-2008, 04:15 PM
It will be fun/scary to see what Robinson does as the depth chart #1. He split carries with outstanding backs as a sophomore and junior. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes over 2,000 as a senior.

Barring any injuries...he will easily pass the 2,000 mark.

HUM398
02-11-2008, 04:15 PM
Going by who I've seen on film or in person, these will be my..

Pre-Season Top-5 going into 2008:
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Chris Whaley (6-3 220) - Madisonville
3) Jonathan Miller (6-1 190) - Naaman Forest
4) Rex Burkhead (5-10 190) - Plano
5) Ryan Swope (6-0 190) - Austin Westlake

Houston Area: Top 10
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Dominic Wilkins (5-9 185) - Klein Forest
3) Hasan Lipscomb (5-10 200) - Cypress Ridge
4) Curtis McGregor (5-10 190) - Eisenhower
5) Deaundre Jones (5-8 165) - North Shore
6) Bo Snelson (5-8 180) - Pasadena Memorial
7) Kasey Carrier (5-9 170) - Pearland
8) Ossam Cook (5-8 180) - Klein Oak
9) Knile Davis (6-0 205) - FB Marshall
10) Michael Webber (5-8 185) - Katy

A few others :
Ben Malena (Cedar Hill) (5-10 185)
Dontrayveous Robinson (Euless Trinity) (6-1 200)
Demario Broadnax (5-9 190) (Naaman Forest)
Justin Branch (4A-Texas City) (5-10 200)
AJ Dugat (4A-Dayton) (6-1 200)
Dexter Pratt (3A-Navasota) (6-1 215)



I think Christine Michael is a beast among men. He is perhaps the best overall RB i have seen come out of Region 3 since Jamal Charles....

TrojanHorse03
02-11-2008, 04:27 PM
One "man"...Tre Robinson of Trinity. Size, speed, skills, hands,,,everything.

I agree with you he's top 5 in my book, but everyone's entitled to their opinion. However, in my opinion such threads are about a few months early but they're always fun to revisit.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-11-2008, 04:42 PM
I think Christine Michael is a beast among men. He is perhaps the best overall RB i have seen come out of Region 3 since Jamal Charles....

I agree... he's unreal!
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CHRISTIANMICHAEL6_4200.JPG
I just see him as the best packaged RB, in 2009. Unfortunately, I think cajun61 should be high on the kid.. it appears he's got a thing for LSU! :rolleyes: :p

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 05:19 PM
I agree... he's unreal!
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CHRISTIANMICHAEL6_4200.JPG
I just see him as the best packaged RB, in 2009. Unfortunately, I think cajun61 should be high on the kid.. it appears he's got a thing for LSU! :rolleyes: :p



He looks pretty jacked. I wonder what he'll do against Da Sho?

jakerz
02-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Lache Seastrunk of Temple will be one of the top juniors this fall. He averaged over 10 yards per carry as a sophomore.

Christian Michael of Beaumont West Brook is one of the top returning backs in Region 3 along with Kasey Carrier at Pearland and Bo Snelson at Pasadena Memorial. DeAundre Jones and Tracy Woods return for North Shore.

Hasan Lipscomb of Cy Ridge is another top back returning in the Houston area. Lipscomb gets overshadowed by Shepard, but he is also a D1 prospect.

I saw Lipscomb play 2 times last year. He's good and certainly a D1 talent but not Top 5 material though. You never know though what his skills truly are because defenses spy on Shep so much through out the game.

Next year I'll go see a Temple game and see what that kid is like. I've been hearing some unreal things about how physical he is + his benches and squats. I'll see for myself though :)

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 06:19 PM
After further review of video tape I have concluded that Chris Whaley is the best back in our state...

ThEgReAtOnE
02-11-2008, 06:22 PM
He looks pretty jacked. I wonder what he'll do against Da Sho?

That will be a game to see! I'll be in attendance!

PlanoFootball
02-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Rex's work ethic far exceeds his talents on the field, and that says a LOT about him. :notworthy Not only one of the most athletic players I have ever seen, but one of the hardest workers and best attitudes.

Boss Hawgette
02-11-2008, 06:46 PM
I went ahead and watched his videos again. Still not impressed. Lacks speed and isn't outstanding in any one area. He's not a top 5 running back in the state. His numbers will be padded by the best offensive line in the state.

That's what everybody said about Dimitri Nance; 3k yards and 40 TD's.

Boss Hawgette
02-11-2008, 06:47 PM
I could skip around blind folded and average 5 a carry behind that Trinity line. There's not a run on that video where he has to make a defender miss before he's already 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

I would seriously pay money to see that!

Boss Hawgette
02-11-2008, 06:49 PM
I like Tre and think he'll have a solid year next year if he can stay healthy. Plus, he's a good receiver out of the backfield and a good blocker. But, top 5 in the state? Not so sure I'll go that far.

I'm not sure we knew how good Nance was after his junior year, but he sure turned out to be special...I have a "gut feeling" that TRAY will be like that.

Boss Hawgette
02-11-2008, 06:51 PM
I agree... he's unreal!
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CHRISTIANMICHAEL6_4200.JPG
I just see him as the best packaged RB, in 2009. Unfortunately, I think cajun61 should be high on the kid.. it appears he's got a thing for LSU! :rolleyes: :p



Jimminy Christmas...he works out some doesn't he? :D

215A-Brook
02-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Christian has looked like that since 7th grade he has been a beast since birth...he should get the ball most of the time next year alot because of Albert Williams leaving...should be alot of fun to watch especially with all the ???? we have on our OL

College Interests
Texas
LSU

Boss Hawgette
02-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Rex's work ethic far exceeds his talents on the field, and that says a LOT about him. :notworthy Not only one of the most athletic players I have ever seen, but one of the hardest workers and best attitudes.

Rex was AMAZING to watch in person...hopefully a Plano game will be on a different night than a Trinity game so I can focus on him a little more.

What kind of attention is he getting from colleges?

Pearland 06
02-11-2008, 07:15 PM
After further review of video tape I have concluded that Chris Whaley is the best back in our state...

Now that wouldn't be because he just committed to UT would it?
:rolleyes:;)

SLC fan
02-11-2008, 07:24 PM
Going by who I've seen on film or in person, these will be my..

Pre-Season Top-5 going into 2008:
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Chris Whaley (6-3 220) - Madisonville
3) Jonathan Miller (6-1 190) - Naaman Forest
4) Rex Burkhead (5-10 190) - Plano
5) Ryan Swope (6-0 190) - Austin Westlake

Houston Area: Top 10
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Dominic Wilkins (5-9 185) - Klein Forest
3) Hasan Lipscomb (5-10 200) - Cypress Ridge
4) Curtis McGregor (5-10 190) - Eisenhower
5) Deaundre Jones (5-8 165) - North Shore
6) Bo Snelson (5-8 180) - Pasadena Memorial
7) Kasey Carrier (5-9 170) - Pearland
8) Ossam Cook (5-8 180) - Klein Oak
9) Knile Davis (6-0 205) - FB Marshall
10) Michael Webber (5-8 185) - Katy

A few others :
Ben Malena (Cedar Hill) (5-10 185)
Dontrayveous Robinson (Euless Trinity) (6-1 200)
Demario Broadnax (5-9 190) (Naaman Forest)
Justin Branch (4A-Texas City) (5-10 200)
AJ Dugat (4A-Dayton) (6-1 200)
Dexter Pratt (3A-Navasota) (6-1 215)



I'd like to hear your thoughts on Wilkins and Cook. I know that Cook was overshadowed by Hales and Robinson. Might he explode onto the scene this fall?

82 5A State Champs
02-11-2008, 07:36 PM
Christian has looked like that since 7th grade he has been a beast since birth...he should get the ball most of the time next year alot because of Albert Williams leaving...should be alot of fun to watch especially with all the ???? we have on our OL

College Interests
Texas
LSU
Christine Michael will definitely be one of the premier backs in the state next year. He has already accumulated over 2700 yards over the past two seasons, and that's with sharing the backfield with another back. He will not be the only RB in the backfield, as Jordan Garrett and Ryan Grant will both be there to complement #33. Yes the NS game should be a game for the ages, as long as everyone is healthy. As far as our OL is concerned, we should be OK. It's our inexperience in the defensive secondary that worries me the most. But it should be fun to watch #33 in his senior year!:D

Rapture
02-11-2008, 07:44 PM
dont forget about DA DA brown of tyler lee. anybody that has seen this kid play knows that he can easly be the the top back in the country come his senior year in fall of 09'. he great speed and vision and can cut like nothin ever seen before.:eek::notworthy DA DA in 09 baby!!!! yall will see a monster in 08 also.

LP-79
02-11-2008, 07:55 PM
The only problem I have with Da Da is it isd hard to run with no blocking. Wait and see how the offensive line gels before giving him props.

Pearland Longhorn
02-11-2008, 08:00 PM
Now that wouldn't be because he just committed to UT would it?
:rolleyes:;)

Nah, It's just hard to not be impressed when you see a 6'3 220lb body running like a deer. He's got everything you would want in a back.

Rapture
02-11-2008, 08:03 PM
The only problem I have with Da Da is it isd hard to run with no blocking. Wait and see how the offensive line gels before giving him props.
agreed!! thats the biggest question for them this yr.

HUM398
02-11-2008, 08:05 PM
I agree... he's unreal!
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CHRISTIANMICHAEL6_4200.JPG
I just see him as the best packaged RB, in 2009. Unfortunately, I think cajun61 should be high on the kid.. it appears he's got a thing for LSU! :rolleyes: :p





I think he is pretty much an LSU lock given that he is about as close to Baton Rouge as he is Austin(actually Closer to Baton Rouge)...Geography and history says LSU for the Golden Triangle Prospect.

fitz400
02-11-2008, 08:18 PM
Going by who I've seen on film or in person, these will be my..

Pre-Season Top-5 going into 2008:
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Chris Whaley (6-3 220) - Madisonville
3) Jonathan Miller (6-1 190) - Naaman Forest
4) Rex Burkhead (5-10 190) - Plano
5) Ryan Swope (6-0 190) - Austin Westlake

Houston Area: Top 10
1) Christian Michael (6-0 200) - Beaumont West Brook
2) Dominic Wilkins (5-9 185) - Klein Forest
3) Hasan Lipscomb (5-10 200) - Cypress Ridge
4) Curtis McGregor (5-10 190) - Eisenhower
5) Deaundre Jones (5-8 165) - North Shore
6) Bo Snelson (5-8 180) - Pasadena Memorial
7) Kasey Carrier (5-9 170) - Pearland
8) Ossam Cook (5-8 180) - Klein Oak
9) Knile Davis (6-0 205) - FB Marshall
10) Michael Webber (5-8 185) - Katy

A few others :
Ben Malena (Cedar Hill) (5-10 185)
Dontrayveous Robinson (Euless Trinity) (6-1 200)
Demario Broadnax (5-9 190) (Naaman Forest)
Justin Branch (4A-Texas City) (5-10 200)
AJ Dugat (4A-Dayton) (6-1 200)
Dexter Pratt (3A-Navasota) (6-1 215)




so i witnessed both Deaundre Jones and kacey carrier a few times this year and they are the same size, same speed and both number 5 but kacey is a better back because of his power and finess

LP-79
02-11-2008, 09:12 PM
Rapture any truth to rumor I heard that Da Da brown is thinking of moving to Chapel Hill? After the problems he had with Coach Owens last year I was just wondering.

Rapture
02-11-2008, 09:47 PM
Rapture any truth to rumor I heard that Da Da brown is thinking of moving to Chapel Hill? After the problems he had with Coach Owens last year I was just wondering.
what problems ? i never heard of any. i dont think he is going any where. i would have heard something by now.

PlanoFootball
02-11-2008, 11:34 PM
Rex was AMAZING to watch in person...hopefully a Plano game will be on a different night than a Trinity game so I can focus on him a little more.

What kind of attention is he getting from colleges?

Well it is very known that it has been hard for athletes to get recruited out of Plano Senior for the past years (won't say the reason). But he is getting tons of attention now.

From what I know he has offers from Cal, Texas Tech, North Texas. There are a ton more that he has been offered from I think, I just don't know of them all. He was invited to the Texas junior day, and he might have been offered by them (?) not quite sure. All the big schools are starting to look at him.

LP-79
02-11-2008, 11:58 PM
what problems / i never headr of any. i dont think he is going any where. i would have heard something by now.

I just heard a rumor. Knew you were closer to situation than me. Only problem I heard about was disipline issues. But you know how stuff gets blown out of poportion in Tyler.

Rapture
02-12-2008, 12:04 AM
I just heard a rumor. Knew you were closer to situation than me. Only problem I heard about was disipline issues. But you know how stuff gets blown out of poportion in Tyler.
awh no!!!! you are talking about jazsman mitchell. he got in trouble with owens last year. he is the one that ran the 4.2 as a freshman. he is still there but, was kicked off the football team. i heard he was suppose to come back. no he and DA DA are two different people. Da Da has proven to be lee's superstar now. it was thought to be jazsman but he like you said had disapline problems. i hear he is stil at lee and is going to run track this year again. i hope he comes back to football. he would make a good return man for us and help with the running game. you had me scared there for a minute when you said da da . ha ha !!

LP-79
02-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Ok my bad then. Da da is so good I hoped he was not leaving. I want LP to face the best in East Texas Classic!

AlwaysEAST
02-12-2008, 06:05 AM
Well it is very known that it has been hard for athletes to get recruited out of Plano Senior for the past years (won't say the reason). But he is getting tons of attention now.

From what I know he has offers from Cal, Texas Tech, North Texas. There are a ton more that he has been offered from I think, I just don't know of them all. He was invited to the Texas junior day, and he might have been offered by them (?) not quite sure. All the big schools are starting to look at him.

Rivals shows that he is holding offers from .Minnesota and Tulsa as well.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-12-2008, 07:23 AM
I'd like to hear your thoughts on Wilkins and Cook. I know that Cook was overshadowed by Hales and Robinson. Might he explode onto the scene this fall?

Wilkins is a beast, unrecognized. Explosive and shifty! By the end of 2008 people will know who he is! Cook averages about 8 yds per carry, over his 98 touches. Yes, he was over shadowed but he's a name people should get to know, quickly. I can see Wilkins as a T-2-T RB at the D1 level, he should bulk up to about 190-195, before he graduates and can add another 10-15 lbs as a Fr. I can see him (Wilkins) topping off at 6-0 205-210. I think Cook is in the mold of a Desean Jackson or Fozzy Whitaker. He'll be a great special teams (KR/PR) or slot WR asset, but not a T-2-T back. (Put him in space or on the perimeter and he'll destroy you!) I just don't see him having the frame to add a needed 25-30 lbs, being at 5-8 175-180, right now. But he will be a RB to watch, in the Houston area, in 2008.

KT2000
02-12-2008, 07:31 AM
TGO, I'd put Kasey Carrier and DeAundre Jones right next to one another. They are the same type of back after seeing them play against each other last year. I think they could trade uniforms, and none of us would know the difference.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-12-2008, 07:55 AM
TGO, I'd put Kasey Carrier and DeAundre Jones right next to one another. They are the same type of back after seeing them play against each other last year. I think they could trade uniforms, and none of us would know the difference.

I watched both RB's pretty good, I saw Kasey get tackled a little bit easier than Jones, which may be how Jones got hurt at seasons end. I'd almost put Snelson, Jones and Carrier in the same boat. That's why they rank in that order. Should've just tied them off.

KT2000
02-12-2008, 08:23 AM
I watched both RB's pretty good, I saw Kasey get tackled a little bit easier than Jones, which may be how Jones got hurt at seasons end. I'd almost put Snelson, Jones and Carrier in the same boat. That's why they rank in that order. Should've just tied them off.

Pasadena Memorial runs a creative system for Snelson. They don't allow you to key on him because they put him in so many different spots alignment wise, and shift him around after that. I was very impressed with their team last year. Despite a smaller roster, they were in outstanding physical shape and that took me by surprise. Extremely well-conditioned group. It'll be interesting to see who Snelson's running mates will be this year since Adamek and Tovar graduate.

hunterbunter
02-12-2008, 10:51 AM
does anybody know what "schools of ineterest" mean? is that the schools that are interested in the athlete, or the schools the athlete is interested in attending?

chap fan
02-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Well, most of these nominations seem to mirror the UT junior days invite list. Whaley is a bit bigger and a little slower than Swope from Westlake, who will visit there this weekend. Burkhead is also on the invitation list, but physically--he's just slower than the other two and smaller. Whaley is I think a 4.45, Swope is a 4.32, and Burkhead is a 4.61. He's an inch shorter but six pounds heavier than Swope, and both are shorter than the 6'3" Whaley, who weighs 218. I guess I'm beginning to understand why recruiting is such a guessing game.

You can't judge these players solely on their physical dimensions or speed, because you can have the perfect numbers and still not produce, or yards gained, which is probably also related to the quality of offensive line and blockers each player has. I know they go through all kinds of exercises at the select summer camps and events like the UT junior days to prove their mettle. I guess we'll just have to see. But in the 40 yard dash--look for Swope to win!

AlwaysEAST
02-12-2008, 03:53 PM
Well, most of these nominations seem to mirror the UT junior days invite list. Whaley is a bit bigger and a little slower than Swope from Westlake, who will visit there this weekend. Burkhead is also on the invitation list, but physically--he's just slower than the other two and smaller. Whaley is I think a 4.45, Swope is a 4.32, and Burkhead is a 4.61. He's an inch shorter but six pounds heavier than Swope, and both are shorter than the 6'3" Whaley, who weighs 218. I guess I'm beginning to understand why recruiting is such a guessing game.

You can't judge these players solely on their physical dimensions or speed, because you can have the perfect numbers and still not produce, or yards gained, which is probably also related to the quality of offensive line and blockers each player has. I know they go through all kinds of exercises at the select summer camps and events like the UT junior days to prove their mettle. I guess we'll just have to see. But in the 40 yard dash--look for Swope to win!

Another wasted read February 2007 numbers guy. Where did you get your info? Rivals? I did not find those Swope numbers you put out there

chap fan
02-12-2008, 04:13 PM
scout.com. Rivals listed a slightly slower time at a select camp this summer-4.41. I don't know where scout.com got their info from.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Well, most of these nominations seem to mirror the UT junior days invite list. Whaley is a bit bigger and a little slower than Swope from Westlake, who will visit there this weekend. Burkhead is also on the invitation list, but physically--he's just slower than the other two and smaller. Whaley is I think a 4.45, Swope is a 4.32, and Burkhead is a 4.61. He's an inch shorter but six pounds heavier than Swope, and both are shorter than the 6'3" Whaley, who weighs 218. I guess I'm beginning to understand why recruiting is such a guessing game.

You can't judge these players solely on their physical dimensions or speed, because you can have the perfect numbers and still not produce, or yards gained, which is probably also related to the quality of offensive line and blockers each player has. I know they go through all kinds of exercises at the select summer camps and events like the UT junior days to prove their mettle. I guess we'll just have to see. But in the 40 yard dash--look for Swope to win!

I'd bet my life on this... Swope is not a 4.3 kid, Whaley isn't a 4.4 kid and Rex is faster than Whaley. If I had to guess, from what I've read and seen on film... Swope is a 4.45, Whaley is a 4.55 and Rex is a 4.53.

This a clip from a DMN article about Rex...


Burkhead's Fortress of Solitude is his bedroom, which is covered walls and ceiling with pictures of sports stars.

His favorite athlete is former NFL running back Barry Sanders, who also wore No. 20.

He also has a couple of paper mache creations from an art class he took last year. One is a bust of Saints running back Reggie Bush. The other is an action pose of Dash one of the superheroes from the animated film The Incredibles.

Speaking of superheroes: Superman isn't his favorite.

"I'm actually more of a Batman fan," Burkhead said. "I like how he seems like he's the ultimate tough guy."

Hanging over his doorway is a list of workout goals. He said he changes them each summer. This year's goals were to bench press 300 pounds (he's up to 315), run the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds (he's at 4.53) and do a 37-inch vertical jump (he's reached 36).

After years of training (+ running track), the ultimate workout warrior, Adrian Peterson, ran a 4.38 in the NFL combine. I don't think any of these young men can touch his speed, right now. So... forget 4.32.

jakerz
02-12-2008, 04:53 PM
I'd bet my life on this... Swope is not a 4.3 kid, Whaley isn't a 4.4 kid and Rex is faster than Whaley. If I had to guess, from what I've read and seen on film... Swope is a 4.45, Whaley is a 4.55 and Rex is a 4.53.

This a clip from a DMN article about Rex...



After years of training (+ running track), the ultimate workout warrior, Adrian Peterson, ran a 4.38 in the NFL combine. I don't think any of these young men can touch his speed, right now. So... forget 4.32.

Amen. No way in hell Swope (or any other non-freak-of-nature) in highschool will run a 4.32. Maybe some future pro tracksters, but not any football players.

PlanoFootball
02-12-2008, 06:37 PM
Rex ran a 4.53 at an underclassmen running back camp last year. I guarantee he is faster then that now, and A LOT fast than a 4.61. I bet he is around 4.50 or maybe even 4.49.

And just to say, you can say Rex is "smaller," but if smaller you mean shorter, I will give you that. Besides being shorter, that kid is rock solid with muscle and is anything from small. Being 5 10 and around 200, thats not bad. Compaired to his height, he is very big. Also I look for him to be around 210 by next year.

chap fan
02-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Well, again I have no way of knowing where scout.com got their info from, but rivals.com cites the select camp where Ryan was timed at 4.41. I've watched him play varsity for two year, and he's a fast one! And Chad Schroeder (who went to A & M) and Staton Jobe (now playing WR for Virginia) were also very speedy, but Ryan would be an excellent back for any college team. I hope he gets an offer from Texas, but they have such few scholarships to give out, I'm concerned. And, fyi, Burkhead is being recruited by UT as an athlete--not a RB, according to Orangebloods.com

Plano Wildcat Fan
02-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Well, most of these nominations seem to mirror the UT junior days invite list. Whaley is a bit bigger and a little slower than Swope from Westlake, who will visit there this weekend. Burkhead is also on the invitation list, but physically--he's just slower than the other two and smaller. Whaley is I think a 4.45, Swope is a 4.32, and Burkhead is a 4.61. He's an inch shorter but six pounds heavier than Swope, and both are shorter than the 6'3" Whaley, who weighs 218. I guess I'm beginning to understand why recruiting is such a guessing game.

You can't judge these players solely on their physical dimensions or speed, because you can have the perfect numbers and still not produce, or yards gained, which is probably also related to the quality of offensive line and blockers each player has. I know they go through all kinds of exercises at the select summer camps and events like the UT junior days to prove their mettle. I guess we'll just have to see. But in the 40 yard dash--look for Swope to win!

Whaley might run a 4.5, Swope does not have deon sanders college speed at 4.3. that is BS. I believe times taken by the colleges not the high school wind aided slow stop watch at 39 1/2 yard distance.

KT1ss24
02-13-2008, 01:57 PM
I could believe Swope running a 4.3 evry now and then. In all reality though just because some one can run a good forty time doesn't translate to the field and every one knows that. Even if Burkhead could only muster a 4.61 forty I have never seen him get caught from behind. Some people have forty speed, some people have field speed, and the lucky ones have great forty speed that shows on the field.

SLC fan
02-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Anyone know Kalvin Guyton from Houston Lamar? He was at the U.S. All-American combine. He averaged nearly 12 ypc as a junior and is supposedly close to receiving an offer from Texas A&M. Houston has already offered.

EastSIDE
02-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Whaley might run a 4.5, Swope does not have deon sanders college speed at 4.3. that is BS. I believe times taken by the colleges not the high school wind aided slow stop watch at 39 1/2 yard distance.

I just saw this on Rivals about Burkhead. According to Rivals, Burkhead has early offers from Texas Tech, Minnesota, Tulsa, North Texas, Cal, Kansas and LSU. I doubt these schools would offer this early if they did not feel the guy wasn't the real deal.

Texas athlete pulls LSU offer

by Brian Stumpf of StudentSportsFootball.com
Not that he didn't have a nice offer list before, but 5-11, 196 pound athlete Rex Burkhead out of Plano (Texas) is now officially blowing up after picking up two offers from 2007 BCS bowl teams on Tuesday, LSU and Kansas. Read more now.

215A-Brook
02-13-2008, 06:25 PM
does anybody know what "schools of ineterest" mean? is that the schools that are interested in the athlete, or the schools the athlete is interested in attending?

both...heard that he had been contacted by both last year

82 5A State Champs
02-13-2008, 06:40 PM
both...heard that he had been contacted by both last year

UT would be fortunate to get Michael, as they are in desperate need of RB's and QB's.

chap fan
02-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Whaley might run a 4.5, Swope does not have deon sanders college speed at 4.3. that is BS. I believe times taken by the colleges not the high school wind aided slow stop watch at 39 1/2 yard distance.

And you can judge this from the online clips? How many times have you seen him play? I haven't seen Burkhead, but then I'm not judging him either. Simply pointing out the available information on him. You're happy to call the scout.com information a fabrication without any evidence other than your inherent belief that you couldn't be wrong and no high school player could be that fast. You might also note that 2008 recruit Sam McGuffie is listed at 4.32 in the 40 on rivals.com

our local radio station posted an orangebloods.com article about Ryan that describes his offer as coming from Mack Brown personally. Not any guarantee he'll get an offer, but it's a nice piece.



1/10/2008
Local back headed to Texas in February
One of the qualities in a running back that the Texas Longhorns have historically coveted in the Mack Brown era is versatility. The ability to catch the football, block and play special teams can sometimes be the deciding factors for the staff when choosing which players at the position to recruit.

For Austin (Texas) Westlake running back Ryan Swope, the key to his game is his versatility and as he prepares to jump knee-deep into college football recruiting, hes hopeful that the Longhorn coaching staff is paying close attention.

The 6-0, 187-pound Swope led the Chaparrals rushed for 1,311 yards and 14 touchdowns, while also leading the team with 23 receptions for 521 yards and seven touchdowns.

Those are impressive numbers for sure and it would appear that the Longhorns taken notice because Swope has an invite to UTs Junior Day on February 23rd.

Ive talked with Coach Davis a few times and theyve got my tape, Swope said. He came out last spring and he watched me run the ball. Hopefully, I caught his eye doing that last spring. Ive been calling him and getting to know him and going to their games.

Swopes invitation to the Junior Day actually came from Texas head coach Mack Brown, who personally invited the Central Texas star. As you might expect the home-town college ranks very high on Swopes early list of schools. In fact, its safe to see that the Longhorns are a clear front-runner if they decide to offer a scholarship.

Ive been growing up in Austin ever since I was little and Ive always wanted to go (to Texas), Swope said. Its been my school that Ive grown up watching and it would be a dream come true to come play for the University of Texas.

In addition to hearing from the Longhorns, Swope has an early offer from Duke and hes receiving heavy mail from the likes of LSU, Oregon, Nebraska, Texas A&M and Texas Tech on a daily basis.

I want to go play somewhere where I can play, but I wouldnt mind redshirting my freshman year, Swope said. I want to go somewhere and play running back, but I want to help the team out in any way that I can.


Posted by Geoff Ketchum on 1/10/2008

And for what it's worth--while my primary allegiance is to UT, with a daughter graduating from LSU this year, I've also become a Tiger fan, so I hope these two (Swope and Burkhead) end up at either one!

chap fan
02-13-2008, 07:52 PM
I could believe Swope running a 4.3 evry now and then. In all reality though just because some one can run a good forty time doesn't translate to the field and every one knows that. Even if Burkhead could only muster a 4.61 forty I have never seen him get caught from behind. Some people have forty speed, some people have field speed, and the lucky ones have great forty speed that shows on the field.

I agree--but have you seen Swope play? Have you looked at his clips?

PlanoFootball
02-13-2008, 09:23 PM
And you can judge this from the online clips? How many times have you seen him play? I haven't seen Burkhead, but then I'm not judging him either. Simply pointing out the available information on him. You're happy to call the scout.com information a fabrication without any evidence other than your inherent belief that you couldn't be wrong and no high school player could be that fast. You might also note that 2008 recruit Sam McGuffie is listed at 4.32 in the 40 on rivals.com

our local radio station posted an orangebloods.com article about Ryan that describes his offer as coming from Mack Brown personally. Not any guarantee he'll get an offer, but it's a nice piece.



1/10/2008
Local back headed to Texas in February
One of the qualities in a running back that the Texas Longhorns have historically coveted in the Mack Brown era is versatility. The ability to catch the football, block and play special teams can sometimes be the deciding factors for the staff when choosing which players at the position to recruit.

For Austin (Texas) Westlake running back Ryan Swope, the key to his game is his versatility and as he prepares to jump knee-deep into college football recruiting, he’s hopeful that the Longhorn coaching staff is paying close attention.

The 6-0, 187-pound Swope led the Chaparrals rushed for 1,311 yards and 14 touchdowns, while also leading the team with 23 receptions for 521 yards and seven touchdowns.

Those are impressive numbers for sure and it would appear that the Longhorns taken notice because Swope has an invite to UT’s Junior Day on February 23rd.

“I’ve talked with Coach Davis a few times and they’ve got my tape,” Swope said. “He came out last spring and he watched me run the ball. Hopefully, I caught his eye doing that last spring. I’ve been calling him and getting to know him and going to their games.”

Swope’s invitation to the Junior Day actually came from Texas head coach Mack Brown, who personally invited the Central Texas star. As you might expect the home-town college ranks very high on Swope’s early list of schools. In fact, it’s safe to see that the Longhorns are a clear front-runner if they decide to offer a scholarship.

“I’ve been growing up in Austin ever since I was little and I’ve always wanted to go (to Texas),” Swope said. “It’s been my school that I’ve grown up watching and it would be a dream come true to come play for the University of Texas.”

In addition to hearing from the Longhorns, Swope has an early offer from Duke and he’s receiving heavy mail from the likes of LSU, Oregon, Nebraska, Texas A&M and Texas Tech on a daily basis.

“I want to go play somewhere where I can play, but I wouldn’t mind redshirting my freshman year,” Swope said. “I want to go somewhere and play running back, but I want to help the team out in any way that I can.”


Posted by Geoff Ketchum on 1/10/2008

And for what it's worth--while my primary allegiance is to UT, with a daughter graduating from LSU this year, I've also become a Tiger fan, so I hope these two (Swope and Burkhead) end up at either one!

I have seen Rex play many sports for a long long time, and I just got done watching Swopes videos (never seen him in person).

I also have never seen McGuffie play, but have seen a bunch of highlight videos on him and on TV. And after watching his video and Swopes, I can honestly say that McGuffie looks a lot faster on tape. Now don't get me wrong, I think Swope looks like a TREMENDOUS athlete and is a great running back, but on speed alone in MY opinion he doesn't look as fast as McGuffie. Probably stronger though.

I do believe that players can run sub 4.4's, but VERY VERY few players can, and that list I do believe includes Sam McGuffie. There are very few people that I have seen that have McGuffie's speed.

But I don't know why people are making such a big deal about 40's either. Its all about game speed, and a LOT has to do with lateral movement and quickness. Then, you have to be able to pack a punch :)

WestPlano006
02-13-2008, 10:08 PM
Rex played varsity as a freshman when I was a senior in the 2005 season (2006 graduating class).

EastSIDE
02-14-2008, 10:49 AM
Well, again I have no way of knowing where scout.com got their info from, but rivals.com cites the select camp where Ryan was timed at 4.41. I've watched him play varsity for two year, and he's a fast one! And Chad Schroeder (who went to A & M) and Staton Jobe (now playing WR for Virginia) were also very speedy, but Ryan would be an excellent back for any college team. I hope he gets an offer from Texas, but they have such few scholarships to give out, I'm concerned. And, fyi, Burkhead is being recruited by UT as an athlete--not a RB, according to Orangebloods.com

Thanks for the insight Mr. Swope.

trojanbacker
02-14-2008, 01:29 PM
According to the Dallas Morning News: "Plano running back Rex Burkhead....picked up scholarship offers from LSU and Kansas. He also has offers from California, Minnesota, Texas Tech and North Texas. He is scheduled to attend Texas Junior Day on Feb. 23."

chap fan
02-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the insight Mr. Swope.

Ahmmm--I don't even know him or any of his family, although as a parent in this community I do know some of the other players and their families. My children are in their mid-twenties now, and in case you missed it--I'm a female.

Raiders09
02-28-2008, 08:47 AM
Northbrook Running Back Derrick Rainey he has speed great vision and can catch the ball

SPTigerfan
02-28-2008, 10:20 AM
Who do we see standing out above the rest?

I would have to get a shout out for Stony Points RYAN NUNN! He was an absolute BEAST this season!

DRAGON PRIDE
02-28-2008, 10:44 AM
San Antnio SW Stephan Salinashad 36 td last season

trojanbacker
02-28-2008, 01:15 PM
Burkhead looked plenty big last year when I saw him. Some players just play bigger than what they're listed at. Trinity's starting rb was 5' 7"...maybe smaller. Yet, he rushed for 2,200.

stinger
02-28-2008, 01:19 PM
Burkhead looked plenty big last year when I saw him. Some players just play bigger than what they're listed at. Trinity's starting rb was 5' 7"...maybe smaller. Yet, he rushed for 2,200.

All you ex-running backs should like this.....size ain't everything;:);)

Planofan2007
02-28-2008, 01:49 PM
Burkhead looked plenty big last year when I saw him. Some players just play bigger than what they're listed at. Trinity's starting rb was 5' 7"...maybe smaller. Yet, he rushed for 2,200.

That is b/c you couldn't see him in the back field, with that o-line that averaged what 6'5"???

Only kidding both of your RBs that played against us in the playoffs where very good and fast.

STB24
02-28-2008, 11:49 PM
Amen. No way in hell Swope (or any other non-freak-of-nature) in highschool will run a 4.32. Maybe some future pro tracksters, but not any football players.

hey its not impossible.. i ran a 4.31 twice as a sophmore (dead serious).. but it was hand timed so i dont count it :( lol

Mustangman21
02-29-2008, 12:33 AM
hey its not impossible.. i ran a 4.31 twice as a sophmore (dead serious).. but it was hand timed so i dont count it :( lol


High school 40 times are such a joke, i know you said it didnt count but still a coach telling you that you ran that fast is saying your as fast as DMC and reggie bush.

mojotrain
02-29-2008, 08:36 AM
I believe that Permian has the 11th and 12th best running backs in the state in Anthony McDowell and Sherard Ray. Both are a little slow and small but they work very hard. Their pecking order, statewide would, I'm sure, be higher if they were running behind a O line that was better than just 11th best in the state. I would post pictures of the both of them, for a shock and awe effect on you posters but the pictures I have of them they are both smiling and eating ice cream cones. That wouldn't scare anyone. Shucks!

Trojan4653
02-29-2008, 11:33 PM
Burkhead looked plenty big last year when I saw him. Some players just play bigger than what they're listed at. Trinity's starting rb was 5' 7"...maybe smaller. Yet, he rushed for 2,200.

He was 5'5":eek:

TrojanHorse03
02-29-2008, 11:52 PM
I believe that Permian has the 11th and 12th best running backs in the state in Anthony McDowell and Sherard Ray. Both are a little slow and small but they work very hard. Their pecking order, statewide would, I'm sure, be higher if they were running behind a O line that was better than just 11th best in the state. I would post pictures of the both of them, for a shock and awe effect on you posters but the pictures I have of them they are both smiling and eating ice cream cones. That wouldn't scare anyone. Shucks!

I think Sherard Ray should have a good year for Permian next year.

trojanbacker
03-01-2008, 12:12 PM
5'5"....but holy cow....that kid's strength and his mental prep were off the charts.

protect_this_house
03-01-2008, 08:26 PM
There might not be a faster player in the state with the ball in his hands than Dominic Wilkins of Klein Forest. NEVER been caught. NEVER. FB Hightower couldn't catch him & had a couple of opportunities to run him down, Lufkin couldn't catch him on a long run for a TD in the second half, and he looked back 3 times at DeSean Hales who couldn't catch him. None of the above mentioned are at a loss for speed on the football field.

Burst on to the scene last year. Should put himself in elite class as a senior. Lots of good ones out there. He may not be THE best, but he ain't too far down a VERY short list.

bryanvikings
03-01-2008, 08:32 PM
Lache Seastrunk of Temple will be one of the top juniors this fall. He averaged over 10 yards per carry as a sophomore.

Christian Michael of Beaumont West Brook is one of the top returning backs in Region 3 along with Kasey Carrier at Pearland and Bo Snelson at Pasadena Memorial. DeAundre Jones and Tracy Woods return for North Shore.

Hasan Lipscomb of Cy Ridge is another top back returning in the Houston area. Lipscomb gets overshadowed by Shepard, but he is also a D1 prospect.

ive seen seatrunk in action he`s the real deal

WestlakeTech
03-04-2008, 09:38 AM
Definately Swope. Yeah, he's got speed but in my opinion, it's his "yards after contact" that set him apart.