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dada
02-07-2008, 07:40 AM
What do you guys think so far? Eventually I will break down all the teams in the area when I get some free time, but as of now, I think the top 3 teams will be:

1.Cy-Ridge: Finished 11-2 and returns probably the most dangerous threat in the area Russel Sheppard(794 yards passing, 1525 rushing) and tailback Hasan Lipscomb(1625 yards rushing).


2.Esienhower: Finished 8-4 returns gunslinger Kenneth Guiton(2500 yards passing) and a Stoud defense.


3. North Shore: finished 14-1 and returns several key players on BOTH sides of the ball.

Who else in the Houston area will make noise?

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 08:18 AM
In no particular order...

Lamar
Klein Oak
Cy-Ridge
Cinco Ranch
North Shore
FB Hightower
Eisenhower
Katy
Pasadena Memorial
The Woodlands

Those are just a few that come to mind that could possibly make the top 10. There are probably a few others.

I think Cinco has a really good chance of coming on strong this year, and Cy-Ridge is definately going to be a terror.

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 08:22 AM
Does Humble have anyone coming back?

What about Conroe?

dada
02-07-2008, 08:23 AM
Not sure...but I was looking at Bmt. Westbrook also....they have some high profile guys returning as well.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-07-2008, 08:49 AM
Houston Area in 2008:

1) Cy Ridge
2) North Shore
3) "Ike" Eisenhower
4) Beaumont West Brook
5) Katy
6) Pearland
7) Klein Oak
8) FB Hightower
9) Cy Falls
10) Spring Westfield

Outside looking in: Pasadena Memorial, Deer Park, Klein HS, Clear Lake


That's how it looks so far. I'll take a look at some scrimmages and practices and perhaps swap some teams around.

Dynastybegan86
02-07-2008, 08:52 AM
Isn't Katy playing 3 out the 4 from your top 4, with Katy being 5? Hmm, guess we will finally get to actually prove something on the field. Can't wait. The season is shaping up, when do we start again:cry

t00 playa
02-07-2008, 08:55 AM
North Shore is too high on those lists... they have plenty coming back but we dont even know who thier QB will be... probably tillman.... who has very very little varsity game experience.... i dont think i have ever even seen him throw the ball or run..... hes just handed off in garbage time...how the QB performs will dictate this season and thats a big question mark.....:eek:

twcpfan1
02-07-2008, 08:57 AM
In no particular order...

Lamar
Klein Oak
Cy-Ridge
Cinco Ranch
North Shore
FB Hightower
Eisenhower
Katy
Pasadena Memorial
The Woodlands

Those are just a few that come to mind that could possibly make the top 10. There are probably a few others.

I think Cinco has a really good chance of coming on strong this year, and Cy-Ridge is definately going to be a terror.

Hope you're right about Cinco. Because it would be a good yardstick for our young team when we play them in Wk 3.

dada
02-07-2008, 09:02 AM
North Shore is too high on those lists... they have plenty coming back but we dont even know who thier QB will be... probably tillman.... who has very very little varsity game experience.... i dont think i have ever even seen him throw the ball or run..... hes just handed off in garbage time...how the QB performs will dictate this season and thats a big question mark.....:eek:

With all that talent NS has coming back, you can plug ME at QB and the team will be great. From the outside looking in, that team is STACKED.

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 09:11 AM
Houston Area in 2008:

1) Cy Ridge
2) North Shore
3) "Ike" Eisenhower
4) Beaumont Westbrook
5) Katy
6) Pearland
7) Klein Oak
8) FB Hightower
9) Cy Falls
10) Spring Westfield

Outside looking in: Pasadena Memorial, Deer Park, Klein HS, Clear Lake


That's how it looks so far. I'll take a look at some scrimmages and practices and perhaps swap some teams around.

Clear Lake is going to have a pretty good defense this year. Their D-Line is looking excellent.

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 09:25 AM
Hope you're right about Cinco. Because it would be a good yardstick for our young team when we play them in Wk 3.

We shall see. Their offense may surprise some people. They have a tough RB coming back, and a QB that should be pretty good as well.

I'm not sure about the D though.

eagle fan
02-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Klein Oak at #7, how can that be? They lose both DeSean and T-Rob. Those are tough to replace. Any insight? I like the falls pick. Go Eagles!!

North Shore Mustang
02-07-2008, 10:28 AM
North Shore is too high on those lists... they have plenty coming back but we dont even know who thier QB will be... probably tillman.... who has very very little varsity game experience.... i dont think i have ever even seen him throw the ball or run..... hes just handed off in garbage time...how the QB performs will dictate this season and thats a big question mark.....:eek:

What else you got on Tillman?
We're gonna have a pretty good team, but you're right...we'll see how the QB works out.

CyFallsMom
02-07-2008, 10:29 AM
Klein Oak at #7, how can that be? They lose both DeSean and T-Rob. Those are tough to replace. Any insight? I like the falls pick. Go Eagles!!

I wasn't going to be a homer because Fleeman or Dynasty will tell me I'm not sharing the love but since I'm not alone now - GO EAGLES!!!

dada
02-07-2008, 10:30 AM
I wasn't going to be a homer because Fleeman or Dynasty will tell me I'm not sharing the love but since I'm not alone now - GO EAGLES!!!

Kolby will be one of the best QB's in the state.....

ThEgReAtOnE
02-07-2008, 10:39 AM
Klein Oak at #7, how can that be? They lose both DeSean and T-Rob. Those are tough to replace. Any insight? I like the falls pick. Go Eagles!!

For Klein Oak, I believe most of their line-up will look like this, in 2008:

Offense looks like this:

QB-Wilson (6'1 205) (Look for Wilson to be a possible D1 QB in 2010!)
WR/TE-Navjar (6-6 230)
RB-Cook Brothers/plus Williams (all are 5-9/5-10 185-190)
OT-Weaver (6-4 350)
OT-Naron (6-5 280)
OG-Forsch (6'4 280)
OG-Benditz (6'1 260)/OG-Koch (6'2 250)
C-Coleman (6-5 240)

Defense looks like this:

DT-Taylor (6-1 310)
DT-Husdain (6-1 260)
DE-Davis (6'3 245)
DE-Cooke (6'2 215)
LB-Bell (6-0 190)
LB-Corcoran (6-0 210)
LB-Gilliam (5-10 205)
CB-Mayweather (5-9 175)
CB-Palmer (5-9 170)
S-Muncie (6-2 190)
S-Williams (5-11 185)

BOLD indicates who should be D1 prospect, in 2008.

Believe it or not, but I believe Oak will have just as salty of a bunch, in 2008, as they did in 2007. ALL of the players, listed, got playing time in 2007, and most had significant roles.

dada
02-07-2008, 10:42 AM
For Klein Oak, I believe most of their line-up will look like this, in 2008:

Offense looks like this:

QB-Wilson (6'1 205) (Look for Wilson to be a possible D1 QB in 2010!)
WR/TE-Navjar (6-6 230)
RB-Cook Brothers/plus Williams (all are 5-9/5-10 185-190)
OT-Weaver (6-4 350)
OT-Naron (6-5 280)
OG-Forsch (6'4 280)
OG-Benditz (6'1 260)/OG-Koch (6'2 250)
C-Coleman (6-5 240)

Defense looks like this:

DT-Taylor (6-1 310)
DT-Husdain (6-1 260)
DE-Davis (6'3 245)
DE-Cooke (6'2 215)
LB-Bell (6-0 190)
LB-Corcoran (6-0 210)
LB-Gilliam (5-10 205)
CB-Mayweather (5-9 175)
CB-Palmer (5-9 170)
S-Muncie (6-2 190)
S-Williams (5-11 185)

BOLD indicates who should be D1 prospect, in 2008.

Believe it or not, but I believe Oak will have just as salty of a bunch, in 2008, as they did in 2007. ALL of the players, listed, got playing time in 2007, and most had significant roles.

how many Husdains are there? I could have sworn I saw two sign LOI's yesterday.

CyFallsMom
02-07-2008, 11:23 AM
Kolby will be one of the best QB's in the state.....

God willing and he stays injury free - he will definitely be one of the best out there for next season. He is so good already and he was still growing last I saw - he's starting to hit Andrew Luck size!! Shepard at Ridge will be one to watch too - he's scary good;).

We lost some amazing receivers and Shane Turner but we have at least one good WR returning in Zachary Gilmore who had quite a few touches last season. Not sure about Eric Williams - he started off with a bang last year at tight end (or possibly WR - he didn't play too many games) I believe and then was gone for the rest of the season so if he's returning - that adds some speed to the line up too. Also, Christian Norris at RB was starting to heat up a bit at year end so he should be pretty productive as well. Many of the Jr's from last season and some Sophs got quite a lot of playing time too so that helps out. Add in any talented move-in's or underclassmen and it's shaping up quite nicely. On defense I want to add Soph Anthony Brown - he played A LOT and had some good tackles but, more than that (and he doesn't even know this) I've known him since he was a little boy but we had all lost touch over the years - didn't realize until I was talking with his mom that he was on the team!! So, I wish him all the best next season too!

ThEgReAtOnE
02-07-2008, 12:06 PM
how many Husdains are there? I could have sworn I saw two sign LOI's yesterday.

LOL.. I have no idea!

GOBIGIKE#1
02-07-2008, 12:26 PM
My Early 2008 Houston Area Top 10 are as follows:


North Shore
Katy
Cy Ridge
Aldine Eisenhower
Beaumont West Brook
Pearland
Klein Oak
Cy Falls
Woodlands
Spring Westfield

If you include Lufkin with the Houston Area, I would have to place them somewhere near the top. Other teams certainly able to break into the Top 10 would be Humble, Klein Forest, Strake Jesuit, Deer Park, and Fort Bend Hightower. 2008 is going to be an interesting season in Texas 5A high school football.

GOBIGIKE#1THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!

dada
02-07-2008, 12:28 PM
My Early 2008 Houston Area Top 10 are as follows:


North Shore
Katy
Cy Ridge
Aldine Eisenhower
Beaumont West Brook
Pearland
Klein Oak
Cy Falls
Woodlands
Spring Westfield

If you include Lufkin with the Houston Area, I would have to place them somewhere near the top. Other teams certainly able to break into the Top 10 would be Humble, Klein Forest, Strake Jesuit, Deer Park, and Fort Bend Hightower. 2008 is going to be an interesting season in Texas 5A high school football.

GOBIGIKE#1THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!

What makes Katy #2....Just curious

HUM398
02-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Does Humble have anyone coming back?

What about Conroe?

Humble Returns:
Starters on Offense:
QB/FS- Keith Baker 5'11 180lbs
FB- Craig Morris 5'10 200lbs
OL-Ronnie Hodges
OL-Cesar Murillo 6'2 250
OL-Blaine Winfield 6'3 260
OL/DE- Shannon Nettles
OL-Rudy Vargas
WR- Darius Tubbs 6'4 180
WR- Maurice Horton 6'2 180 (injured for most the season)
KR/PR-Allen Augustine 5'8 160

Top New Comers moved up for playoffs:
RB- Donavon Young 5'11 195 (Projected Starter, Future Soph.)
WR-Dominique Washington 6'3 175lbs
WR- Xavior Tunson 6'2 180lbs
WR/KR- Talton Raven 5'11 175
OL- Chris Martinez 6'3 280



Starters on Defense:
Lamarc Strahan 6-4 290lbs (Second team all-district, OU looking heavily at him)
CB- Todd Lyons 6'1 190
CB-Brian Womack 5'11 175 (Started 3 games, 4 picks on the year..injured Broker Finger)
Non-Starter
LB- John Walker 6'2 200 (Rotated with LB core, and played tons. played about 2 quarters a game)

Top New Comers Expected to start:
FS/CB- Devante Davis 5'11 175
LB/CB-Laquintis Dowell 5'11 190
DT- Kenneth Brown 6'0 260lbs (Future Soph.)
DT/OL- Thomas Mosley 5'11 260lbs
CB-Timmy Stringfellow 5'11 180
CB-Dre Evins 5'10 180

Humble is rumored to be switching to the power I. The offense should be very explosive, and look something like the late 90's...

Humble Defense will be young, but Humble has always had one of the better defenses in the Houston area... This team is more talented Top to bottom then last years...

They are a top 10 in my opinion, but will find out what they are really made of against Cy-Ridge

HUM398
02-07-2008, 12:48 PM
1.NS
2.Cy-Ridge
3.IKE
4.Katy
5.Westbrook
6.Westfield
7.Pearland
8.Klein Oak
9.Cy-falls
10.Humble


Thats mine.

TXFOOSBALL
02-07-2008, 12:51 PM
For Klein Oak, I believe most of their line-up will look like this, in 2008:

Offense looks like this:

QB-Wilson (6'1 205) (Look for Wilson to be a possible D1 QB in 2010!)
WR/TE-Navjar (6-6 230)
RB-Cook Brothers/plus Williams (all are 5-9/5-10 185-190)
OT-Weaver (6-4 350)
OT-Naron (6-5 280)
OG-Forsch (6'4 280)
OG-Benditz (6'1 260)/OG-Koch (6'2 250)
C-Coleman (6-5 240)

Defense looks like this:

DT-Taylor (6-1 310)
DT-Husdain (6-1 260)
DE-Davis (6'3 245)
DE-Cooke (6'2 215)
LB-Bell (6-0 190)
LB-Corcoran (6-0 210)
LB-Gilliam (5-10 205)
CB-Mayweather (5-9 175)
CB-Palmer (5-9 170)
S-Muncie (6-2 190)
S-Williams (5-11 185)

BOLD indicates who should be D1 prospect, in 2008.

Believe it or not, but I believe Oak will have just as salty of a bunch, in 2008, as they did in 2007. ALL of the players, listed, got playing time in 2007, and most had significant roles.

WWE superstar Umaga's (Eddie Fatu) son plays DL. He will be a sophmore and probably be on varsity next year.

GOBIGIKE#1
02-07-2008, 01:10 PM
What makes Katy #2....Just curious

I believe Katy has had an absolutely outstanding football program over the last ten years including the athletes, coaches, and entire community. I know they lost a lot of talent from last years team. But I have seen them recover quickly before and keep on contending for state championships. Lose a head coach? Plug in another. Lose some great players? Plug some more in. For the last 10 years, Katy has been the most consistent at the top in the Houston area. Behind them it has been North Shore. At this early stage, with the little information I do have about all the local teams, I just can't place Katy anywhere but near the top.

GOBIGIKE#1THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!

dada
02-07-2008, 01:26 PM
I believe Katy has had an absolutely outstanding football program over the last ten years including the athletes, coaches, and entire community. I know they lost a lot of talent from last years team. But I have seen them recover quickly before and keep on contending for state championships. Lose a head coach? Plug in another. Lose some great players? Plug some more in. For the last 10 years, Katy has been the most consistent at the top in the Houston area. Behind them it has been North Shore. At this early stage, with the little information I do have about all the local teams, I just can't place Katy anywhere but near the top.

GOBIGIKE#1THE SWOOP IS DEFINITELY BACK!

Good Answer....I can live with that. I guess Katy has earned the benefit of the doubt. A year after making the finals, Graduation hit Cy-Falls hard and they werent ranked as high, some got upset, but the reasoning was "Lack of Experience"....the same thing with Judson. Katy loses a:
2,500 yard passer
a 2,500 yard rusher
2 600 yard recivers
Houston area defensive player of the year
and 1000 Sr's yet most still pick them as one of the top teams in the state.
Shows you the respect Katy's program has.

Pearland Longhorn
02-07-2008, 01:38 PM
I trust that TGO knows more than most about each team this early on.

I see a lot of 06 Pearland in next years Cy-Ridge squad.

NS is the team to beat. They won't need to pass the ball to beat any area team until they get to the region championship.

Pasadena Memorial loses a bunch. Deer Park is the team people should be talking about as a sleeper from that district.

Clear Lake has good defensive talent coming back and is putting their starting tail back from last year at QB to run the wishbone. The story with them is always turnovers though. If they play disciplined they can win 24-5.

Does Dickinson return much TGO? If they do I can see them making an impact their first year in 5A.

Pearland returns all the weapons on offense. We lose our 3 best defensive players but still have a lot of veterans that have contributed for the past 2 seasons. We'll win district.

TXFOOSBALL
02-07-2008, 02:46 PM
I trust that TGO knows more than most about each team this early on.
I see a lot of 06 Pearland in next years Cy-Ridge squad.

NS is the team to beat. They won't need to pass the ball to beat any area team until they get to the region championship.

Pasadena Memorial loses a bunch. Deer Park is the team people should be talking about as a sleeper from that district.

Clear Lake has good defensive talent coming back and is putting their starting tail back from last year at QB to run the wishbone. The story with them is always turnovers though. If they play disciplined they can win 24-5.

Does Dickinson return much TGO? If they do I can see them making an impact their first year in 5A.

Pearland returns all the weapons on offense. We lose our 3 best defensive players but still have a lot of veterans that have contributed for the past 2 seasons. We'll win district.

Speaking of....How in the hell do you know so much about every single team TGO??? It blows my mind. I know you attend a lot of games but you could prolly rattle off the starting rosters for every team in houston. You dont learn that by just attending games.:confused:

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 02:55 PM
Humble Returns:
Starters on Offense:
QB/FS- Keith Baker 5'11 180lbs
FB- Craig Morris 5'10 200lbs
OL-Ronnie Hodges
OL-Cesar Murillo 6'2 250
OL-Blaine Winfield 6'3 260
OL/DE- Shannon Nettles
OL-Rudy Vargas
WR- Darius Tubbs 6'4 180
WR- Maurice Horton 6'2 180 (injured for most the season)
KR/PR-Allen Augustine 5'8 160

Top New Comers moved up for playoffs:
RB- Donavon Young 5'11 195 (Projected Starter, Future Soph.)
WR-Dominique Washington 6'3 175lbs
WR- Xavior Tunson 6'2 180lbs
WR/KR- Talton Raven 5'11 175
OL- Chris Martinez 6'3 280



Starters on Defense:
Lamarc Strahan 6-4 290lbs (Second team all-district, OU looking heavily at him)
CB- Todd Lyons 6'1 190
CB-Brian Womack 5'11 175 (Started 3 games, 4 picks on the year..injured Broker Finger)
Non-Starter
LB- John Walker 6'2 200 (Rotated with LB core, and played tons. played about 2 quarters a game)

Top New Comers Expected to start:
FS/CB- Devante Davis 5'11 175
LB/CB-Laquintis Dowell 5'11 190
DT- Kenneth Brown 6'0 260lbs (Future Soph.)
DT/OL- Thomas Mosley 5'11 260lbs
CB-Timmy Stringfellow 5'11 180
CB-Dre Evins 5'10 180

Humble is rumored to be switching to the power I. The offense should be very explosive, and look something like the late 90's...

Humble Defense will be young, but Humble has always had one of the better defenses in the Houston area... This team is more talented Top to bottom then last years...

They are a top 10 in my opinion, but will find out what they are really made of against Cy-Ridge

:eek::eek:
Lordy,..Humble is stacked!

When do they play Cy-Ridge?

By the way,..Good move on the Power I Switch. That's a good offense imo.

HUM398
02-07-2008, 05:22 PM
:eek::eek:
Lordy,..Humble is stacked!

When do they play Cy-Ridge?

By the way,..Good move on the Power I Switch. That's a good offense imo.

Week 0 probably Aug 29th...I think at Berry.

They finally have a back with the Physical abilities to run the Humble style of the power I. Also we feature some size at WR that we haven't had in along while...

cmore
02-07-2008, 05:40 PM
Clear Lake is going to have a pretty good defense this year. Their D-Line is looking excellent.



What the heck happened over at Lake? They go to the the semi finals in "04" and haven't made the playoffs since then. It's got to be pretty depressing not to make the post season when four teams can go. (Lake and Ball have hit rock bottom).

clearlakefan07
02-07-2008, 06:32 PM
What the heck happened over at Lake? They go to the the semi finals in "04" and haven't made the playoffs since then. It's got to be pretty depressing not to make the post season when four teams can go. (Lake and Ball have hit rock bottom).

Lake has had the talent to beat teams out of district 24-5a....they've lost quite a few of there top coaches since 04' that have gone to other teams in the district and the district is starting to figure out ways to stop the offense Lake runs...outside district I dont think Lake has lost to any teams nondistrict wise since 03' when they lost to Baytown Lee and North Shore and Smithson Valley in semi's 04' season...I'm pretty sure those are the only 2 teams to beat them in nondistrict play...correct me if I'm wrong?

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 08:15 PM
Lake has had the talent to beat teams out of district 24-5a....they've lost quite a few of there top coaches since 04' that have gone to other teams in the district and the district is starting to figure out ways to stop the offense Lake runs...outside district I dont think Lake has lost to any teams nondistrict wise since 03' when they lost to Baytown Lee and North Shore and Smithson Valley in semi's 04' season...I'm pretty sure those are the only 2 teams to beat them in nondistrict play...correct me if I'm wrong?


Is CL content with running the bone? Despite it being a little on the ancient side, it seemed to work pretty well against Pearland last year. How long has CL been running it?

ThEgReAtOnE
02-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Speaking of....How in the hell do you know so much about every single team TGO??? It blows my mind. I know you attend a lot of games but you could prolly rattle off the starting rosters for every team in houston. You dont learn that by just attending games.:confused:

Attend games, talk to HC's, study game programs (tons of them) and get information from any other source possible.. sometimes including the players.

katfighter
02-07-2008, 09:33 PM
Klein Oak at #7, how can that be? They lose both DeSean and T-Rob. Those are tough to replace. Any insight? I like the falls pick. Go Eagles!!

I was wondering that too. The incoming senior and juniors were not that great in freshman ball. Pretty sure Forest and Collins thumped them and the Klein crew. Unless they have some more move ins.

rodjohns
02-07-2008, 09:37 PM
In no particular order...

Lamar
Klein Oak
Cy-Ridge
Cinco Ranch
North Shore
FB Hightower
Eisenhower
Katy
Pasadena Memorial
The Woodlands

Those are just a few that come to mind that could possibly make the top 10. There are probably a few others.

I think Cinco has a really good chance of coming on strong this year, and Cy-Ridge is definately going to be a terror.

The good ol' days at Klein Oak are behind them. I love those guys but it will not be the same kind of team with Hales at UT and TRob at Michigan.

rodjohns
02-07-2008, 09:45 PM
For Klein Oak, I believe most of their line-up will look like this, in 2008:

Offense looks like this:

QB-Wilson (6'1 205) (Look for Wilson to be a possible D1 QB in 2010!)
WR/TE-Navjar (6-6 230)
RB-Cook Brothers/plus Williams (all are 5-9/5-10 185-190)
OT-Weaver (6-4 350)
OT-Naron (6-5 280)
OG-Forsch (6'4 280)
OG-Benditz (6'1 260)/OG-Koch (6'2 250)
C-Coleman (6-5 240)

Defense looks like this:

DT-Taylor (6-1 310)
DT-Husdain (6-1 260)
DE-Davis (6'3 245)
DE-Cooke (6'2 215)
LB-Bell (6-0 190)
LB-Corcoran (6-0 210)
LB-Gilliam (5-10 205)
CB-Mayweather (5-9 175)
CB-Palmer (5-9 170)
S-Muncie (6-2 190)
S-Williams (5-11 185)

BOLD indicates who should be D1 prospect, in 2008.

Believe it or not, but I believe Oak will have just as salty of a bunch, in 2008, as they did in 2007. ALL of the players, listed, got playing time in 2007, and most had significant roles.

Muncie is a Sophmore and he had trouble with the better teams. So to say he is a 2008 D1 prospect may be a stretch. Gilliam is a Sophmore and so is Williams. All these guys got spanked by the Klein Sophs. Oak will be lucky to go .500 in this very tough District.

And a quick question for you Oak faithful...12 D-1 prospects on this team??? C'mon lets quit hittin that bong up there in the woods..

rodjohns
02-07-2008, 09:51 PM
WWE superstar Umaga's (Eddie Fatu) son plays DL. He will be a sophmore and probably be on varsity next year.

Did he play on the JV Squad last fall?

TXFOOSBALL
02-07-2008, 10:10 PM
Did he play on the JV Squad last fall?

No, I dont think freshmen are able to play on JV but he was one of the 3 or so FR. moved up to varsity for the playoffs. He wont be an impact player next year but he is def a kid to look out for.

Dynastybegan86
02-07-2008, 10:24 PM
Attend games, talk to HC's, study game programs (tons of them) and get information from any other source possible.. sometimes including the players.

I was gonna say that you must have a library of programs. I think the best way is to attend games. That helps a ton. I attended more NON-Katy games last year than I usually do. I wanted to see what the region was gonna throw at us. Now I'll be able to see 2 regions with the Cy's in R2.

Bobcat81
02-07-2008, 10:27 PM
Week 0 probably Aug 29th...I think at Berry.

They finally have a back with the Physical abilities to run the Humble style of the power I. Also we feature some size at WR that we haven't had in along while...

I'd like to see this matchup.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Muncie is a Sophmore and he had trouble with the better teams. So to say he is a 2008 D1 prospect may be a stretch. Gilliam is a Sophmore and so is Williams. All these guys got spanked by the Klein Sophs. Oak will be lucky to go .500 in this very tough District.

And a quick question for you Oak faithful...12 D-1 prospects on this team??? C'mon lets quit hittin that bong up there in the woods..

At Safety, Muncie (who will be a Junior in 2008) is probably closer to 6-3 and will be 200 lbs next year. He has excellent speed and should have recruiters drooling for the next 2 seasons. I never said he was a 2008 prospect... only the players in BOLD should get college looks next year. RB-Williams averaged over 7 yds per carry, as a sophmore and Gilliam saw significant playing time when Mirenda was banged up. He's a very aggressive player!

And it's not impossible to see a team have 12 D1 prospects. Out of the players listed, I can see Oak having 6 to 8 D1 signees in 2008, if not more.

82 5A State Champs
02-07-2008, 10:53 PM
Not sure...but I was looking at Bmt. Westbrook also....they have some high profile guys returning as well.

Yes, we do in fact have alot of our key position players returning on offense as well as defense. I think eight starters on offense and five starters on defense will return. Here is a list of players to watch this coming season:

Christian Louis QB 6' 175#'s 2031 passing yds, 383 rush, 61.65%
Christian Michael RB 5'11" 180 2700-plus yards in two seasons
Jordan Garrett RB/WR/DB 6'1" 190
Taylor Reed LB/WR 6' 160
Chris Penson WR 5'8" 150
Nick Andrepoint OL 6'3" 275
Roland Bordelon DL 6'4" 225
MIchael Broussard OL 6'1" 260
Chris Durgin OL 6'2" 250
Ryan Grant WR/DB 6'1" 165
Malcolm Williams LB 6'3" 195
Adorian Underwood LB 5'10" 205

West Brook, last year, totaled 4566 yards of offense (2344 rushing, 2222 passing), and most of that offensive unit from a 10-2 team will be returning. I expect for the "red headed stepchild" from Beaumont to make some noise and make some of the "experts" take notice. We wont go undefeated, but we will win some BIG ballgames.:D BTW, just so ya'll know, West Brook is spelled as two words.

Dynastybegan86
02-07-2008, 11:19 PM
DB '86's Top 10
1. Northshore
2. IKE
3. Klein Oak
4. CyRidge
5. BMT Westbrook
6. The Woodlands
7. CyFalls
8. FB Hightower
9. Spring Westfield
10. Katy

PCW Cats
02-08-2008, 04:44 AM
If Cy-Woods can make the transition from Thursday football to Friday football then they will be in the top 10. They will play A&M Cons. and Klein Oak in non-district so the answers will come quick.

CyFallsMom
02-08-2008, 07:27 AM
Woods may well be in that mix before the season ends. With them being newcomers though, probably not to begin with. I think they will be able to make that transition pretty well.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-08-2008, 07:48 AM
Yes, we do in fact have alot of our key position players returning on offense as well as defense. I think eight starters on offense and five starters on defense will return. Here is a list of players to watch this coming season:

Christian Louis QB 6' 175#'s 2031 passing yds, 383 rush, 61.65%
Christian Michael RB 5'11" 180 2700-plus yards in two seasons
Jordan Garrett RB/WR/DB 6'1" 190
Taylor Reed LB/WR 6' 160
Chris Penson WR 5'8" 150
Nick Andrepoint OL 6'3" 275
Roland Bordelon DL 6'4" 225
MIchael Broussard OL 6'1" 260
Chris Durgin OL 6'2" 250
Ryan Grant WR/DB 6'1" 165
Malcolm Williams LB 6'3" 195
Adorian Underwood LB 5'10" 205

West Brook, last year, totaled 4566 yards of offense (2344 rushing, 2222 passing), and most of that offensive unit from a 10-2 team will be returning. I expect for the "red headed stepchild" from Beaumont to make some noise and make some of the "experts" take notice. We wont go undefeated, but we will win some BIG ballgames.:D BTW, just so ya'll know, West Brook is spelled as two words.

I'd like to see the BWB O-line look like this:

OT-Nick Andrepoint 6-3 275 (Bulk up to 285)
OT-Cedric Franklin 6-3 290 (Bulk up to 305)
OG-Michael Broussard 6-1 260 (Bulk up to 270)
OG-Markel McCartney 6-1 260 (Bulk up to 270)
C-Chris Durgin 6-2 250 (Bulk up to 265)

And hope each of them gain an inch or two, over the next 6 months... they could, possibly, look like this..

OT-Nick Andrepoint 6-4 285
OT-Cedric Franklin 6-4 305
OG-MIchael Broussard 6-2 270
OG-Markel McCartney 6-2 270
C-Chris Durgin 6-3 265

Even if they don't grow an inch or gain my desired mass, if they each focus on their explosion, power and technique they could be a really good bunch next year. I look forward to seeing this BWB offense, next year.

Fleeman93
02-08-2008, 09:18 AM
Woods may well be in that mix before the season ends. With them being newcomers though, probably not to begin with. I think they will be able to make that transition pretty well.


Do you think Falls will have a chance against Woods?

CyFallsMom
02-08-2008, 09:24 AM
Of course I do - that's a silly question. While I think that Woods will have a very good season and more than likely make the playoffs, I think both Falls and Ridge will win the matchup against them. Woods has had a very successful JV team for two years now and have played some 3a and 4a teams and won as well. They already have a very good following of fans over there too...they could rival a lot of old schools in that area. They have had the opportunity to be coached by varsity coaches that entire time too so they will do well this season. I just think the frontrunners are Falls and Ridge (with their experience at the 5a level and in many crucial game situations) at this point but we know how that changes in the blink of an eye in 17-5a - UH I MEAN 15-5a (man do I have to get used to THAT).

bulldog
02-08-2008, 09:27 AM
Lake has had the talent to beat teams out of district 24-5a....they've lost quite a few of there top coaches since 04' that have gone to other teams in the district and the district is starting to figure out ways to stop the offense Lake runs...outside district I dont think Lake has lost to any teams nondistrict wise since 03' when they lost to Baytown Lee and North Shore and Smithson Valley in semi's 04' season...I'm pretty sure those are the only 2 teams to beat them in nondistrict play...correct me if I'm wrong?

Lake lost to LaPorte and katy Taylor in 05, the year after the semi-final run. There is not much stability in the coaching staff. CCISD does not support football and probably never will. it is hard to sustain success without support from the top.

Semi-final Coaches
Adduddel-HC-still there
Lanier-OC- Head coach at Brook
Lane-DC-DC at Creek
Broussard-OL-OC at Brook
Glazener- RB-still there, now WR
Jaso- WR- Head Baseball Coach, does not do football
Boone-OL- at Deer Park
Satcher- DL- DC at Lake
Burnett- LB- still there
Sanders- DB- still there

Fleeman93
02-08-2008, 09:29 AM
Does this look about right?


Houston Cyp Ridge

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Houston Cyp. Falls

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Houston Cyp. Creek
Houston Cyp. Fair
Houston Cyp. Springs
Houston Cyp. Woods
Houston Jersey Village
Houston Langham Crk


Who from the bottom group will battle for the final two spots and who will have no chance?

CyFallsMom
02-08-2008, 09:46 AM
This is just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt. Jersey Village is always in the mix somewhere so I never count them out. Woods should be at 3rd or 4th but Cy Fair may have something to say about that. Cy Creek, I believe, has a few coming back so they might battle it out too. Now, that being said, you know how our district is and anybody can beat anybody at any time...like when we beat Fair and then lost to JV a couple of weeks later...who knew:rolleyes:. I still think going in the top two are Falls and Ridge but there usually isn't a huge gap in between the top 4 teams.

MY list goes like this (I would put the Eagles at the top but I am looking at this objectively - I just think Ridge is going to be very tough this year but we should be right behind)

Ridge
Falls
Woods
Fair
JV
Creek
LC
Springs

rodjohns
02-08-2008, 01:14 PM
At Safety, Muncie (who will be a Junior in 2008) is probably closer to 6-3 and will be 200 lbs next year. He has excellent speed and should have recruiters drooling for the next 2 seasons. I never said he was a 2008 prospect... only the players in BOLD should get college looks next year. RB-Williams averaged over 7 yds per carry, as a sophmore and Gilliam saw significant playing time when Mirenda was banged up. He's a very aggressive player!

And it's not impossible to see a team have 12 D1 prospects. Out of the players listed, I can see Oak having 6 to 8 D1 signees in 2008, if not more.

Actualy you bolded Muncie...So you know a little about Oak. Tell me your thoughts on Klein.

Katy Band 2010
02-08-2008, 01:37 PM
DB '86's Top 10
1. Northshore
2. IKE
3. Klein Oak
4. CyRidge
5. BMT Westbrook
6. The Woodlands
7. CyFalls
8. FB Hightower
9. Spring Westfield
10. Katy

No offence but why would Katy be # 10?
Katy is year in and out a much better team than #10

Fleeman93
02-08-2008, 01:41 PM
No offence but why would Katy be # 10?
Katy is year in and out a much better team than #10


In my opinion "Katy is better year in and year out" is not a good argument as to why they should be ranked better than #10. Katy will be better than #10 because they will be that good due to talent and great coaching.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-08-2008, 02:23 PM
Actualy you bolded Muncie...So you know a little about Oak. Tell me your thoughts on Klein.

Actually, Muncie will be getting college looks, next year.. as well as the year after that. But you're right, I only know a little about Oak. Honestly, I didn't follow them that much, last year. Too busy trying to catch a ton of other 4A and 5A teams, in the Houston area.

My thoughts on Klein is.. not gonna be a good year. They have to rebuild in so many places and their best returning players are LB-Stockinger, S-Boss and OL-Wynzell. Who's playing QB?? All of their QB's graduated, and lets face it Adams wasn't much of a QB. In other words, anyone with a hearbeat will probably be a step up. What about RB?? Their top 2 or 3 RB's are gone. They lose 45-50 Seniors.. which is mind boggling. I think they only return about 12-14 players from a roster of about 60-65. (Don't ask me how that happens.) And, offensively, it's not like they scored a ton of pts. I think they scored, about, 24 pts or more, 4 or 5 times. I didn't follow their JV team

Potential impact players for 2008, IMO:

OL-Wynzell Lee (6-0 260)
OL-Melvin Jones (6-1 280)
DT-Tyler Branch (6-0 290)
DT-Alex Ebers (6-1 280)
DE-Brandon Laubach (6-5 220)
LB-Kevin Kisseberth (6-1 210)
LB-Chris Stockinger
S/WR-Tyler Boss (6-2 185)
CB-Xavier Boyd (5-10 160)
DB-Stefon Onwuneme (6-0 185)

backthepack
02-08-2008, 02:58 PM
Lufkin?

rodjohns
02-08-2008, 03:03 PM
Actually, Muncie will be getting college looks, next year.. as well as the year after that. But you're right, I only know a little about Oak. Honestly, I didn't follow them that much, last year. Too busy trying to catch a ton of other 4A and 5A teams, in the Houston area.

My thoughts on Klein is.. not gonna be a good year. They have to rebuild in so many places and their best returning players are LB-Stockinger, S-Boss and OL-Wynzell. Who's playing QB?? All of their QB's graduated, and lets face it Adams wasn't much of a QB. In other words, anyone with a hearbeat will probably be a step up. What about RB?? Their top 2 or 3 RB's are gone. They lose 45-50 Seniors.. which is mind boggling. I think they only return about 12-14 players from a roster of about 60-65. (Don't ask me how that happens.) And, offensively, it's not like they scored a ton of pts. I think they scored, about, 24 pts or more, 4 or 5 times. I didn't follow their JV team

Potential impact players for 2008, IMO:

OL-Wynzell Lee (6-0 260)
OL-Melvin Jones (6-1 280)
DT-Tyler Branch (6-0 290)
DT-Alex Ebers (6-1 280)
DE-Brandon Laubach (6-5 220)
LB-Kevin Kisseberth (6-1 210)
LB-Chris Stockinger
S/WR-Tyler Boss (6-2 185)
CB-Xavier Boyd (5-10 160)
DB-Stefon Onwuneme (6-0 185)

That is a fair assesment. Not following our JV team you could not have seen all the talent we have lined up for this fall. By the way Stockinger is a soph and only played a handful of Varsity games. Our class of 2009 is very thin. The class of 2010 is stacked. only lost one game in 2 years (Katy 10-7).

Our JV QB Clayton Crum most likely will get the start he is 6' and very athletic.

RB's will most likely be soph's Dakota Barnes and Patrick Johnson. Dakota played the last few games of the season on Varsity and made a big impact when he got the ball. Dakota ran track on the Varsity as a freshmen.

I am not going to say much and show our hand...but you will see

Katy Band 2010
02-08-2008, 03:30 PM
In my opinion "Katy is better year in and year out" is not a good argument as to why they should be ranked better than #10. Katy will be better than #10 because they will be that good due to talent and great coaching.

Well i just had no idea where he was comming from about it?

Oak_Dad_2004
02-08-2008, 04:17 PM
For Klein Oak, I believe most of their line-up will look like this, in 2008:

Offense looks like this:

QB-Wilson (6'1 205) (Look for Wilson to be a possible D1 QB in 2010!)
WR/TE-Navjar (6-6 230)
RB-Cook Brothers/plus Williams (all are 5-9/5-10 185-190)
OT-Weaver (6-4 350)
OT-Naron (6-5 280)
OG-Forsch (6'4 280)
OG-Benditz (6'1 260)/OG-Koch (6'2 250)
C-Coleman (6-5 240)

Defense looks like this:

DT-Taylor (6-1 310)
DT-Husdain (6-1 260)
DE-Davis (6'3 245)
DE-Cooke (6'2 215)
LB-Bell (6-0 190)
LB-Corcoran (6-0 210)
LB-Gilliam (5-10 205)
CB-Mayweather (5-9 175)
CB-Palmer (5-9 170)
S-Muncie (6-2 190)
S-Williams (5-11 185)

BOLD indicates who should be D1 prospect, in 2008.

Believe it or not, but I believe Oak will have just as salty of a bunch, in 2008, as they did in 2007. ALL of the players, listed, got playing time in 2007, and most had significant roles.

As a long time Klein Oak fan, this kind of love is great although probably a little optimistic.

Wilson isn't anywhere near 6'1 even in his mom's high heels, so the QB slot is going to be a big question in 2008. Of the names bolded, I bet Weaver doesn't see the field, and I think Taylor didn't finish the year last year even on JV.

My predictions for D1 signings next year are as follows: Naron and Forsch as no doubters. Najvar if only for his size is probably a lock. Ossam Cook is the real deal and with T-Rob and DeSean gone onto greener pastures, Ossam should really shine. And I predict either Palmer or Mayweather at corner will be the 5th signee. Palmer can really play. Zach Coleman could be a sleeper if he can put some more weight on his 6'5" frame.

Muncie is the real deal and will have double digit offers before the start of his senior season (2009).

I hope they end up 3rd in the area, but it will be a real feat replacing all of the guys they lost, not just DeSean and T-Rob.

82 5A State Champs
02-08-2008, 06:46 PM
I'd like to see the BWB O-line look like this:

OT-Nick Andrepoint 6-3 275 (Bulk up to 285)
OT-Cedric Franklin 6-3 290 (Bulk up to 305)
OG-Michael Broussard 6-1 260 (Bulk up to 270)
OG-Markel McCartney 6-1 260 (Bulk up to 270)
C-Chris Durgin 6-2 250 (Bulk up to 265)

And hope each of them gain an inch or two, over the next 6 months... they could, possibly, look like this..

OT-Nick Andrepoint 6-4 285
OT-Cedric Franklin 6-4 305
OG-MIchael Broussard 6-2 270
OG-Markel McCartney 6-2 270
C-Chris Durgin 6-3 265

Even if they don't grow an inch or gain my desired mass, if they each focus on their explosion, power and technique they could be a really good bunch next year. I look forward to seeing this BWB offense, next year.
You never know. We'll see what happens during spring ball and over the summer. Either way, I think we'll be OK!;)

eagleswoop#1
02-10-2008, 01:09 PM
Well i just had no idea where he was comming from about it?

Is it true that Katy plays Ike next season?

KT2000
02-10-2008, 01:15 PM
Is it true that Katy plays Ike next season?

It was rumored, but not confirmed by either side yet.

katfighter
02-10-2008, 03:10 PM
As a long time Klein Oak fan, this kind of love is great although probably a little optimistic.

Wilson isn't anywhere near 6'1 even in his mom's high heels, so the QB slot is going to be a big question in 2008. Of the names bolded, I bet Weaver doesn't see the field, and I think Taylor didn't finish the year last year even on JV.

My predictions for D1 signings next year are as follows: Naron and Forsch as no doubters. Najvar if only for his size is probably a lock. Ossam Cook is the real deal and with T-Rob and DeSean gone onto greener pastures, Ossam should really shine. And I predict either Palmer or Mayweather at corner will be the 5th signee. Palmer can really play. Zach Coleman could be a sleeper if he can put some more weight on his 6'5" frame.

Muncie is the real deal and will have double digit offers before the start of his senior season (2009).

I hope they end up 3rd in the area, but it will be a real feat replacing all of the guys they lost, not just DeSean and T-Rob.

I agree with everything here. This senior group was blown out as freshman by the other Klein schools and really were only good on JV because T-Rob ruled ineligible his junior year. The OL's are just big so will get recruited. Navjar was suppose to be the QB coming out as a freshman. He has nice hands but is not a WR ( too slow) or TE (Not tough enough) for college.

katfighter
02-10-2008, 03:14 PM
That is a fair assesment. Not following our JV team you could not have seen all the talent we have lined up for this fall. By the way Stockinger is a soph and only played a handful of Varsity games. Our class of 2009 is very thin. The class of 2010 is stacked. only lost one game in 2 years (Katy 10-7).

Our JV QB Clayton Crum most likely will get the start he is 6' and very athletic.

RB's will most likely be soph's Dakota Barnes and Patrick Johnson. Dakota played the last few games of the season on Varsity and made a big impact when he got the ball. Dakota ran track on the Varsity as a freshmen.

I am not going to say much and show our hand...but you will see

I would want to play Klein in the first half, not the last half. The juniors are very talented in all positions except QB.

What does Forest have? Chad hasn't grown since 10th grade but is nice RB. I think the QB is slick s well.

Football4life
02-10-2008, 03:16 PM
I dont think Klein Oak is gonna be as good as you guys are thinking next year. Lets put it this way with out T-Rob and Hales the teams nothing, there Defense was below average last year, and there offense was a 2 man game. Without Hales and Robinson I dont see oak winning very many games next year.

rodjohns
02-10-2008, 07:07 PM
I dont think Klein Oak is gonna be as good as you guys are thinking next year. Lets put it this way with out T-Rob and Hales the teams nothing, there Defense was below average last year, and there offense was a 2 man game. Without Hales and Robinson I dont see oak winning very many games next year.

I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

rodjohns
02-10-2008, 07:09 PM
I would want to play Klein in the first half, not the last half. The juniors are very talented in all positions except QB.

What does Forest have? Chad hasn't grown since 10th grade but is nice RB. I think the QB is slick s well.

Klein Forest has one thing going for it, a huge front 4 on Defense. I did not see anything that would lead me to believe that they have the skill positions to keep up in the new 13-5A.

t00 playa
02-10-2008, 09:01 PM
I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

i dont think its either of the two.......North Shore schedule looks just about set..... and Galena park has huffman and magnolia i believe ..and they are in an 8 team district so not them either....

but what do i know? things change....nobodys schedule is official yet...:eek:

HUM398
02-10-2008, 10:01 PM
I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

Klein will play Humble in Week 3.

Other then that, im not sure...But thats been Confirmed on the Humble side...we already have our Non-District set.

katfighter
02-10-2008, 10:32 PM
I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

KC has the whole defense except the MLB and 1-2 in secondary coming back plus 2 real good OL and the QB who set a school single game rushing record last year. (Yes, more than Goodson, Yancy, or Luke ever had) but your juniors are good. I expect Shaw/Centamore and Rossier all to play somewhere. They need some recievers. They should compete better this year for a playoff spot.

ktCarl
02-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Is it true that Katy plays Ike next season?

This is Katy's 2008 schedule per e-mail typed by Coach Joseph. I presume teams can change schedules over the next few of months.

North Shore ( T)

Woodlands (Sept 5) T

Open

Lewisville Marcus ( Waco) Sat 20th

Beaumont Westbrook

Cy Bay Florida(H) <Yes, there are Cy schools in Florida too :eek:>

Morton Ranch

Seven Lakes

Taylor

Mayde Creek

Cinco Ranch

ktCarl
02-11-2008, 07:39 PM
:eek::eek:
Lordy,..Humble is stacked!

When do they play Cy-Ridge?

By the way,..Good move on the Power I Switch. That's a good offense imo.

What about your Bobcats? How do you think they will shape up this season?

NSMustangProud
02-11-2008, 10:18 PM
I trust that TGO knows more than most about each team this early on.

I see a lot of 06 Pearland in next years Cy-Ridge squad.

NS is the team to beat. They won't need to pass the ball to beat any area team until they get to the region championship.

Pasadena Memorial loses a bunch. Deer Park is the team people should be talking about as a sleeper from that district.

Clear Lake has good defensive talent coming back and is putting their starting tail back from last year at QB to run the wishbone. The story with them is always turnovers though. If they play disciplined they can win 24-5.

Does Dickinson return much TGO? If they do I can see them making an impact their first year in 5A.

Pearland returns all the weapons on offense. We lose our 3 best defensive players but still have a lot of veterans that have contributed for the past 2 seasons. We'll win district.

You will definitely win the district!

fitz400
02-11-2008, 10:24 PM
You will definitely win the district!

nothing is "definate" in football
for example:

SLC making the title game in 07?
Michigan beating App state?
Patriots winning it all??
Undefeated team winning the Natl Championship in the NCAA?

none of those things which were predicted happened

Bobcat81
02-12-2008, 12:49 AM
What about your Bobcats? How do you think they will shape up this season?

Hard to say at this point. The offensive backfield looks good..(Jr.) Tailback, (Sr.) Fullback-(Lane-220+ lbs) with good speed & a lot of power. Problem is he's fumble prone. 3rd year returning TE (Colby Goodwin-outstanding!), Returning Center, and a new QB up from JV last year. Not sure about him, but he seems to be a bit like Cory Chance of the 2006 squad..just a bit on the slim side. No experience at WR for us this year. A few other returning lettermen on the O, but none that were starters.

Defense should be good again. Two returning starters in the secondary (Jr. & Sr.) both of whom are good hitters & cover well. Two good linebackers that lettered last year, one being (DeRanch-returning starter) who will probably be the Captain. They need insurance on this kid alone-He's a real hitter. Two Defensive Ends return-one started last year. Three Defensive Tackles that lettered with a good amount of playing time.

No returning K/P

We're in fairly good shape to contend for the top (4) but how big a splash they'll make, we'll just have to wait and see.

Looks as though everyone will be chasing Cy-Ridge with all their speedsters.

HoustonBoy
02-21-2008, 07:47 PM
I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

Of course with the lose of T-rob and Desean, oak won't be as good as a team as it was last year. But there is some talent that didn't get a chance to play last year. KO's gameplan has changed from running 90% of the time to about 50/50, they plan to spread the ball around mainly through passing, it'll be their first time doing it in years.

mcmullen82
02-21-2008, 09:58 PM
Does Stratford stand a chance now that we're back in 5A?

Dynastybegan86
02-21-2008, 10:02 PM
Does Stratford stand a chance now that we're back in 5A?

UH! NO!:rolleyes:

clearlakefan07
02-21-2008, 10:19 PM
Houston Area in 2008:

1) Cy Ridge
2) North Shore
3) "Ike" Eisenhower
4) Beaumont West Brook
5) Katy
6) Pearland
7) Klein Oak
8) FB Hightower
9) Cy Falls
10) Spring Westfield

Outside looking in: Pasadena Memorial, Deer Park, Klein HS, Clear Lake


That's how it looks so far. I'll take a look at some scrimmages and practices and perhaps swap some teams around.

Clear Lake should be better on defense then they have the last couple years, but there losing some key offensive players...I heard there moving Canas to QB and he's quick with some good moves so that should help out with the offense. Clear Lake is playing a lot tougher non-district schedule then they have lately. I wouldn't mention Clear Lake in the top 10 category...but if they go 3-0 nondistrict then you can mention them in top 10 category...just my opinion.

Week 0- Aldine-away
Week 1- Strake Jesuit-home
Week 2- The Woodlands-home
Week 3- bye
Week 4- Galveston Ball-home
Week 5- Clear Springs-away
Week 6- Alvin-home
Week 7- Clear Brook-away
Week 8- Dickinson-home
Week 9- Brazoswood-away
Week 10- Clear Creek-home

Anybody have any idea what kind of offense Clear Springs will be running...?

New Guy in Town
02-22-2008, 10:51 PM
That is a fair assesment. Not following our JV team you could not have seen all the talent we have lined up for this fall. By the way Stockinger is a soph and only played a handful of Varsity games. Our class of 2009 is very thin. The class of 2010 is stacked. only lost one game in 2 years (Katy 10-7).

Our JV QB Clayton Crum most likely will get the start he is 6' and very athletic.

RB's will most likely be soph's Dakota Barnes and Patrick Johnson. Dakota played the last few games of the season on Varsity and made a big impact when he got the ball. Dakota ran track on the Varsity as a freshmen.

I am not going to say much and show our hand...but you will see

I am interested to hear how everyone feels about Klein team, because my office mate, whose son was a senior this past year, thinks they will be down next year. I went to a number of their games last year because having middle school aged girls, you have to pick some one to root for!
He does think second half of year will be better than the first as young kids get playing time. Barnes will get alot of carries, but he is slender and fast, and may not hold up to 20 carries a game. He does not think that Johnson will play much as he is very short and his speed has not kept up compared to sub varsity competition. He does not know who will be QB, so any team like that is a question mark. Sounds like the JV kid got hurt last year and missed most of season. They had a kid from Baseball team fill in and he actually played better than the first kid. His opinion is that the Defense should be ok with strength at LB. It will be tough to replace some of that defense from last year. You don't often get kids like Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty in same year.
I am already looking forward to next year.

Katyexrb29
02-23-2008, 04:32 AM
Katy always finds a way.:notworthy

State Quarter-Finalists
1959, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
Regional Semi-Finalists
1992, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
Area Finalists
1959, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007

ftballin11
02-23-2008, 05:08 PM
Katy always finds a way.:notworthy

State Quarter-Finalists
1959, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
Regional Semi-Finalists
1992, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
Area Finalists
1959, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007

Let them think what they want.I guess history hasnt taught them anything. It's nice to be the underdog. We know whats going to happen.

nsmustang
02-26-2008, 08:03 AM
North Shore is too high on those lists... they have plenty coming back but we dont even know who thier QB will be... probably tillman.... who has very very little varsity game experience.... i dont think i have ever even seen him throw the ball or run..... hes just handed off in garbage time...how the QB performs will dictate this season and thats a big question mark.....:eek:

That's my exact thoughts. I don't like NS being ranked high with the question mark at QB. Yes, there is a ton of returning talent and they should do ok but
I get a little nervous with the high expectations and the unknown factor. I would add that another surprise season at QB would take them deep again.
They have have also put it on the line this year with their schedule. We shall see.

rodjohns
02-26-2008, 12:15 PM
I am interested to hear how everyone feels about Klein team, because my office mate, whose son was a senior this past year, thinks they will be down next year. I went to a number of their games last year because having middle school aged girls, you have to pick some one to root for!
He does think second half of year will be better than the first as young kids get playing time. Barnes will get alot of carries, but he is slender and fast, and may not hold up to 20 carries a game. He does not think that Johnson will play much as he is very short and his speed has not kept up compared to sub varsity competition. He does not know who will be QB, so any team like that is a question mark. Sounds like the JV kid got hurt last year and missed most of season. They had a kid from Baseball team fill in and he actually played better than the first kid. His opinion is that the Defense should be ok with strength at LB. It will be tough to replace some of that defense from last year. You don't often get kids like Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty in same year.
I am already looking forward to next year.

I am glad to see you are so enthusiastic about our prospects for this fall. Are you sure you are not an Oak fan?

rodjohns
02-26-2008, 12:43 PM
I am interested to hear how everyone feels about Klein team, because my office mate, whose son was a senior this past year, thinks they will be down next year. I went to a number of their games last year because having middle school aged girls, you have to pick some one to root for!
He does think second half of year will be better than the first as young kids get playing time. Barnes will get alot of carries, but he is slender and fast, and may not hold up to 20 carries a game. He does not think that Johnson will play much as he is very short and his speed has not kept up compared to sub varsity competition. He does not know who will be QB, so any team like that is a question mark. Sounds like the JV kid got hurt last year and missed most of season. They had a kid from Baseball team fill in and he actually played better than the first kid. His opinion is that the Defense should be ok with strength at LB. It will be tough to replace some of that defense from last year. You don't often get kids like Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty in same year.
I am already looking forward to next year.

I attended every JV game and watched both QB's. The Baseball kid is a good talent no doubt but the first team QB that got hurt has only lost one game as a starter in 4 years. 10-7 to Katy. He ran a td from 45 yards out agianst Katy in the last minute of play that was called back.

Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty were all Deffensive standouts at Klein. The JV team that will replace them are as talented as those four when they were Sophs. So let these guys play as Junior starters on Varsity and then make the prediction. I think you are a little premature in your assesment.

As far as Barnes being slender and fast that is true. He is the same height and weight as T Rob at Oak. He is a tough runner and is only getting better in the off season. He is wicked fast and his quickness ranks very high against all competition.

As far as the Johnson kid being way too short and his speed not keeping up with Sub Varsity competition, you have to look at 2 things. First and foremost a running back at the 5A level does not have to be tall, in fact tall running backs are rare because of their lack of cutting ability. When you talk of speed their are 2 measures, open field speed and quickness. There are not many people who would argue that Johnson is a medium to fast runner in the open field. However his quickness is why he has been the starter for the past 8 years of his football career. He has also put on 20+ pounds of muscle in the last year. So his 40 times and his 100 times are the same as a year ago but he is carrying alot more weight. He is working out with former 13 year veteran NE Patriot on open field speed in the off season. He loves to be told he is too short!!!

Go Bearkats!!!

Football4life
02-26-2008, 06:41 PM
I attended every JV game and watched both QB's. The Baseball kid is a good talent no doubt but the first team QB that got hurt has only lost one game as a starter in 4 years. 10-7 to Katy. He ran a td from 45 yards out agianst Katy in the last minute of play that was called back.

Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty were all Deffensive standouts at Klein. The JV team that will replace them are as talented as those four when they were Sophs. So let these guys play as Junior starters on Varsity and then make the prediction. I think you are a little premature in your assesment.

As far as Barnes being slender and fast that is true. He is the same height and weight as T Rob at Oak. He is a tough runner and is only getting better in the off season. He is wicked fast and his quickness ranks very high against all competition.

As far as the Johnson kid being way too short and his speed not keeping up with Sub Varsity competition, you have to look at 2 things. First and foremost a running back at the 5A level does not have to be tall, in fact tall running backs are rare because of their lack of cutting ability. When you talk of speed their are 2 measures, open field speed and quickness. There are not many people who would argue that Johnson is a medium to fast runner in the open field. However his quickness is why he has been the starter for the past 8 years of his football career. He has also put on 20+ pounds of muscle in the last year. So his 40 times and his 100 times are the same as a year ago but he is carrying alot more weight. He is working out with former 13 year veteran NE Patriot on open field speed in the off season. He loves to be told he is too short!!!

Go Bearkats!!!

Ya who is this Johnson kid anyways :D

rodjohns
02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Ya who is this Johnson kid anyways :D

Just some kid that loves a challenge. He has 10 players and parents behind him every year saying he won't be the starter because he is too short, too slow, too light, too this or too that....go figure. Every year he proves them wrong and this year will be no exception. ;)

GO BEARKATS!!!

RedRage00
02-27-2008, 03:56 PM
Why is Katy so low in a lot of polls? Just curious...I dont know what they lose or really know much about houston area.

RR

ThEgReAtOnE
02-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Why is Katy so low in a lot of polls? Just curious...I dont know what they lose or really know much about houston area.

RR

They lose, I think (?), about 15 starters, including team leaders RB-Dean, DB/RB-Hunter, QB-Mitchell, OL-Ball, OL-Bryan, LB-Adkins, DB's Henry and Frederick.. and WR's Fuda, Rowe, Avie and TE-Stayton . They lose most of Secondary and most on O-line. In leaders, they basically return OL-Poteet, RB-Webber and DE-M. Marks. Webber and Marks are likely to be D1 signees in 2009. Teams like Cy Ridge, Ike and North Shore return a ton on their teams. Those teams were pretty good, in 2007.

That said, Katy will reload. They have good size and speed coming up from Fr and JV squads, plus they're a great program. Had that been a school like Clear Lake or Pasadena Memorial they wouldn't be given as much respect Top 10) due to lack of program lineage/dominance.

katfighter
02-27-2008, 05:25 PM
Klein Forest has one thing going for it, a huge front 4 on Defense. I did not see anything that would lead me to believe that they have the skill positions to keep up in the new 13-5A.

Wilkens and Chad are both coming back I think. That is skill.

katfighter
02-27-2008, 05:30 PM
I am glad you said that so I did not have to. I've got too many friends at Oak to be saying that kinda stuff but it is true, way too much hype for an average team at best.

Now my bud's over at Klein Collins think they have something with Rozzier and Shaw in their backfield but I can't tell you how much the Klein guys want to keep spanking em like they did on Freshmen and JV teams. Should be a good match up in the next two years.

Anybody seen the schedule for Klein yet? I heard we start with NorthShore but I heard tonight it will be Galena Park. Anybody?

Just heard that KC will have a new head Coach next year. God bless Coach K. He resigned due to health reasons. 3rd coach in 4 year for class of 2009.

bvalentine
02-28-2008, 06:11 AM
Nsmustang,there you guys go again. It's nothing wrong with being mentioned with the best in the area as well as the state. You guys said the same thing last year and what happened, 14-1 that's what. NS has the talent to repeat or surpass last years accomplishments. I told people on this board as well as co-workers we're fine 10-0 nothing less than semifinals! QB will be new but he's a senior,the kid got playing time last year and did fine . For one, he is fasters than J.M. and throws the ball well, people will be surprise with the results. The staters may play a little longer but haters (co-workers) will still be leaving the games early. All district games decided by 14 points or more,all of them! Lamarque-Not even close. NS 35-14! Cyfalls-Good game. NS 31-21. IKE-The swoop is back. NS 28-17. Katy-This game is played to early and katy is real young, later in the season who knows. NS 45-21 (NorthShore has waited for this one a long time). THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll -we will be out coached and get caugth up in the moment under the big texas lights Carroll wins-30-14.

t00 playa
02-28-2008, 07:27 AM
Nsmustang,there you guys go again. It's nothing wrong with being mentioned with the best in the area as well as the state. You guys said the same thing last year and what happened, 14-1 that's what. NS has the talent to repeat or surpass last years accomplishments. I told people on this board as well as co-workers we're fine 10-0 nothing less than semifinals! QB will be new but he's a senior,the kid got playing time last year and did fine . For one, he is fasters than J.M. and throws the ball well, people will be surprise with the results. The staters may play a little longer but haters (co-workers) will still be leaving the games early. All district games decided by 14 points or more,all of them! Lamarque-Not even close. NS 35-14! Cyfalls-Good game. NS 31-21. IKE-The swoop is back. NS 28-17. Katy-This game is played to early and katy is real young, later in the season who knows. NS 45-21 (NorthShore has waited for this one a long time). THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll -we will be out coached and get caugth up in the moment under the big texas lights Carroll wins-30-14.

who is "you guys"?:eek:

ThEgReAtOnE
02-28-2008, 07:39 AM
Nsmustang,there you guys go again. It's nothing wrong with being mentioned with the best in the area as well as the state. You guys said the same thing last year and what happened, 14-1 that's what. NS has the talent to repeat or surpass last years accomplishments. I told people on this board as well as co-workers we're fine 10-0 nothing less than semifinals! QB will be new but he's a senior,the kid got playing time last year and did fine . For one, he is fasters than J.M. and throws the ball well, people will be surprise with the results. The staters may play a little longer but haters (co-workers) will still be leaving the games early. All district games decided by 14 points or more,all of them! Lamarque-Not even close. NS 35-14! Cyfalls-Good game. NS 31-21. IKE-The swoop is back. NS 28-17. Katy-This game is played to early and katy is real young, later in the season who knows. NS 45-21 (NorthShore has waited for this one a long time). THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll -we will be out coached and get caugth up in the moment under the big texas lights Carroll wins-30-14.

La Marque will be young w/ a new HC. I can see them losing.

Cy Falls loses Turner, but they return one of the best Dual-Threat QB's in the Nation (Gray). It will be a TOUGH game for NS!

IKE will be loaded w/ D1 prospects like S-Logston, QB-Guiton, RB-McGregor, WR-Timmons and WR-Reynolds. I see this game coming down to a last possession.

Katy is young, but RB-Webber is tough and will go D1, as well as DE-Micah Marks. Katy has some serious size coming on the o-line and plenty of speed moving up. This game will be closer than 45-21, IMO. But NS should win!

SLC returns about 20. Though undersized, RB-Avers is no slouch and QB-Padron has some good size and a solid arm. SLC will be solid on the defense, returning excellent performers DE-Burnett, DB-Jameson, LB-Osborne, DE-Richards, DB-Thompson and DB-Townsend. That said, SLC wont be as good as they were, overall, last year. JMO! I don't really see how NS loses to SLC, at this point. NS wont be caught up in the moment, they've played in plenty big games.

bvalentine
02-28-2008, 09:28 AM
Some of the NS fans(you guys) that won't say they're teams is one of the best in the state because they play in a week district or lose in the playoffs early almost every year. It seems like fans don't talk because they don't want to be harrased when we lose. I,m a NS fan and no matter what I say on this board it's not going to stop people from talking win or loss. Hey man, we will be good this year and that's a fact it's not bragging it's the truth. When the season starts there will be no one in Houston better if your looking at last year and what we have coming back. I guess if we beat Katy we can be the 6 or 7 best team in Houston right behind Humble or no maybe, lets see Pearland.

t00 playa
02-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Some of the NS fans(you guys) that won't say they're teams is one of the best in the state because they play in a week district or lose in the playoffs early almost every year. It seems like fans don't talk because they don't want to be harrased when we lose. I,m a NS fan and no matter what I say on this board it's not going to stop people from talking win or loss. Hey man, we will be good this year and that's a fact it's not bragging it's the truth. When the season starts there will be no one in Houston better if your looking at last year and what we have coming back. I guess if we beat Katy we can be the 6 or 7 best team in Houston right behind Humble or no maybe, lets see Pearland.


i have been a NS fan since early 90's..... i remember the days when Rick finister was quarterbacking the mustang squad under coach gravitt..... that was ages ago...... so ive seen plenty of mustangs games...and seen plenty of teams and players throughout the 18 or so years i have been following them.......just speaking for myself...i call it how i see it.....im not worried about stepping on any toes or hurting anyones feelings.....but if i have questions.... then ill say that i have questions.... if not... then i wont.... but like i have said.... NS has a lot of talent returning this year.... and plenty to fill any graduation holes left from last year.... defense should be extremely good...however... until i see the new QB under center leading his team as the main guy...and seeing how well we leads the mustangs.. ill have questions....but im sure they will be answered pretty quick in the first game against katy.....do i think NS should be mentioned among the top teams in the state..... yes of course.... do i think they are top 3 ? they can be....but much depends on the QB position in my opinion....if we can put up points next year like we did this year... i think we will be just fine...and headed for another shot at the state title...... im not a coach on the mustangs staff...... so i dont get to see what they see everyday.... but ill continue to call it like i see it..im not gonna be just a cheerleader...but even if i was....with NS winning the majority of thier games every year...even a cheerleader would have pretty good odds...on a mustang win.....:eek:

nsmustang
02-28-2008, 10:58 AM
Nsmustang,there you guys go again. It's nothing wrong with being mentioned with the best in the area as well as the state. You guys said the same thing last year and what happened, 14-1 that's what. NS has the talent to repeat or surpass last years accomplishments. I told people on this board as well as co-workers we're fine 10-0 nothing less than semifinals! QB will be new but he's a senior,the kid got playing time last year and did fine . For one, he is fasters than J.M. and throws the ball well, people will be surprise with the results. The staters may play a little longer but haters (co-workers) will still be leaving the games early. All district games decided by 14 points or more,all of them! Lamarque-Not even close. NS 35-14! Cyfalls-Good game. NS 31-21. IKE-The swoop is back. NS 28-17. Katy-This game is played to early and katy is real young, later in the season who knows. NS 45-21 (NorthShore has waited for this one a long time). THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll -we will be out coached and get caugth up in the moment under the big texas lights Carroll wins-30-14.

I know Shore is a top program in the state. I just like them under the radar (my personal preference) and I like for them to do all the talking on the field like last year. Will they be a good team this year? Absolutely, but can the new QB take that returning team deep in the playoffs or win the title?
I have not seen enough of any one taking snaps to tell me the unknowns. The '04 and '05 teams being a good example. I just can't get on this board and say I think they will destroy everyone in their path. I would love to, but reality tells me different until I see them. If what you say about Tillman (?)
is true I will be very happy, especially if he is faster than Big Mac and has an accurate arm. Give us more insight, it's sounding good so far.

rodjohns
02-28-2008, 02:50 PM
Just heard that KC will have a new head Coach next year. God bless Coach K. He resigned due to health reasons. 3rd coach in 4 year for class of 2009.

Best of luck to Coach K. and best of luck to the new Head Coach.

New Guy in Town
02-28-2008, 05:46 PM
I attended every JV game and watched both QB's. The Baseball kid is a good talent no doubt but the first team QB that got hurt has only lost one game as a starter in 4 years. 10-7 to Katy. He ran a td from 45 yards out agianst Katy in the last minute of play that was called back.

Moore, West, Kaetzer and Youboty were all Deffensive standouts at Klein. The JV team that will replace them are as talented as those four when they were Sophs. So let these guys play as Junior starters on Varsity and then make the prediction. I think you are a little premature in your assesment.

As far as Barnes being slender and fast that is true. He is the same height and weight as T Rob at Oak. He is a tough runner and is only getting better in the off season. He is wicked fast and his quickness ranks very high against all competition.

As far as the Johnson kid being way too short and his speed not keeping up with Sub Varsity competition, you have to look at 2 things. First and foremost a running back at the 5A level does not have to be tall, in fact tall running backs are rare because of their lack of cutting ability. When you talk of speed their are 2 measures, open field speed and quickness. There are not many people who would argue that Johnson is a medium to fast runner in the open field. However his quickness is why he has been the starter for the past 8 years of his football career. He has also put on 20+ pounds of muscle in the last year. So his 40 times and his 100 times are the same as a year ago but he is carrying alot more weight. He is working out with former 13 year veteran NE Patriot on open field speed in the off season. He loves to be told he is too short!!!

Go Bearkats!!!
Rodjohns...

I am not a Oak fan, or necessarily a diehard for any team. I moved into the area about 18 months ago, and having all girls at home, I get to watch other peoples sons play football. I don't really have any dog in the hunt. I followed Klein because one of my work mates has a son who was a senior this past season. You seem very defensive about Johnson, and now looking at your sign in I think I can figure out why. I was impressed with the senior boys I mentioned in the earlier e-mail, and have not seen any JV games. After reading your note, I asked my buddy and he said that the "other QB from the baseball team" is actually West's younger brother. I hope that Johnson can do the work to be a contributor over the next couple of years, as the overall Klein experience seems to be a positive one with the whole community behind them. I may become more of a Bearkat fan, as my kids would end up at the new Spring Dekaney High School in a few years, and I am considering moving to Champion Forest area to give them a better experience. It is tough not having games to go to each week. How many weeks until the Spring scrimmage?

Dynastybegan86
02-28-2008, 10:52 PM
Nsmustang,there you guys go again. It's nothing wrong with being mentioned with the best in the area as well as the state. You guys said the same thing last year and what happened, 14-1 that's what. NS has the talent to repeat or surpass last years accomplishments. I told people on this board as well as co-workers we're fine 10-0 nothing less than semifinals! QB will be new but he's a senior,the kid got playing time last year and did fine . For one, he is fasters than J.M. and throws the ball well, people will be surprise with the results. The staters may play a little longer but haters (co-workers) will still be leaving the games early. All district games decided by 14 points or more,all of them! Lamarque-Not even close. NS 35-14! Cyfalls-Good game. NS 31-21. IKE-The swoop is back. NS 28-17. Katy-This game is played to early and katy is real young, later in the season who knows. NS 45-21 (NorthShore has waited for this one a long time). THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll -we will be out coached and get caugth up in the moment under the big texas lights Carroll wins-30-14.

Actually, Katy vs GPN is THE BIG ONE!! Katy will win because you are looking ahead to the SC game. Of course that's a good thing for y'all. Why? Well it will help you refocus for SC and it will give SC a false since of superiority. You'll win 30-14!! How you like them apples?:cool:

ruffshod
02-28-2008, 11:25 PM
Some of the NS fans(you guys) that won't say they're teams is one of the best in the state because they play in a week district or lose in the playoffs early almost every year. It seems like fans don't talk because they don't want to be harrased when we lose. I,m a NS fan and no matter what I say on this board it's not going to stop people from talking win or loss. Hey man, we will be good this year and that's a fact it's not bragging it's the truth. When the season starts there will be no one in Houston better if your looking at last year and what we have coming back. I guess if we beat Katy we can be the 6 or 7 best team in Houston right behind Humble or no maybe, lets see Pearland.

QB is the most important position in football. There is a question mark at the position for now, so WE don't know, for now. What we do know, is that, the machine keeps rolling. I, for one, am not bothered by a schedule either way. You play the game that's in front of you. There's always a chance that we could lose a game, but we also always have the potential to win it all. So, with that said, time will tell. I've been a big Mustang supporter for 30+ yrs. and noy about to stop now. But, there are a few questions that will be answered.

HUM398
02-28-2008, 11:49 PM
Actually, Katy vs GPN is THE BIG ONE!! Katy will win because you are looking ahead to the SC game. Of course that's a good thing for y'all. Why? Well it will help you refocus for SC and it will give SC a false since of superiority. You'll win 30-14!! How you like them apples?:cool:

Who would be stupid enough to look past Katy to another opponent?

Good programs worry about the game at hand, not the game next week.

bvalentine
02-29-2008, 02:12 AM
Dynastybegan86 if Katy wins it won't be because of me, I'm just a fan. Anyone would be nuts to overlook Katy, I just gave my opinion. With their youth, loss of players and the game being played in week zero I feel confident with what we have coming back. I can't speak for the coach or players, but believe me someone somewhere felt confident enough to schedule those games. As far as the QB goes, I've been watching NS for about 16 years now and I can't remember the last time a QB total ruined the season or for that a game. Some fans may count 2006 season though and the Pearland game.

t00 playa
02-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Dynastybegan86 if Katy wins it won't be because of me, I'm just a fan. Anyone would be nuts to overlook Katy, I just gave my opinion. With their youth, loss of players and the game being played in week zero I feel confident with what we have coming back. I can't speak for the coach or players, but believe me someone somewhere felt confident enough to schedule those games. As far as the QB goes, I've been watching NS for about 16 years now and I can't remember the last time a QB total ruined the season or for that a game. Some fans may count 2006 season though and the Pearland game.

QBs dont necessarily ruin seasons or games..... but they do determine if the offense/team will be average, good, or great..... can a team with an average offense and QB be mentioned in the top 5 in the state? probably not.... in 06 we had a super defense...but an anemic offense ... which is why we were bounced early in the playoffs... when i say i have questions... i have questions on whether tillman or whomever the qb is ...will produce like mcginty....or produce like fizer..... and that makes a big difference..... i think the katy game will be closer than what you predicted...unless i hear and see good things coming from the new QB .:eek:

fitz400
02-29-2008, 11:21 AM
what is everyones take on pearlands upcoming schedule?

Scrimmage: Hightower at home
week 1: Madison (away)
week 2: Kempnar (home)
week 3: Spring Branch Memorial (away)
week 4: Bye
week 5: Pasadena (home/homecoming)
week 6: Sam Rayburn (away)
week 7: LaPorte (home)
week 8: Pasadena Memorial (home)
week 9: South Houston (away)
week 10: Deer Park (Home)
week 11: Dobie (away)

Magellan
02-29-2008, 12:03 PM
what is everyones take on pearlands upcoming schedule?

Scrimmage: Hightower at home
week 1: Madison (away)
week 2: Kempnar (home)
week 3: Spring Branch Memorial (away)
week 4: Bye
week 5: Pasadena (home/homecoming)
week 6: Sam Rayburn (away)
week 7: LaPorte (home)
week 8: Pasadena Memorial (home)
week 9: South Houston (away)
week 10: Deer Park (Home)
week 11: Dobie (away)

Dude, wrong thread. You might want to put that on the schedules thread instead.

ThEgReAtOnE
02-29-2008, 12:15 PM
Dude, wrong thread. You might want to put that on the schedules thread instead.

It seems he could post it on both threads, considering both are about upcoming HS football seasons. And.. this is a thread about the ranking of Houston's Top 10 in 2008. One way to argue a future ranking is to give a view at a teams' upcoming schedule to see what the SOS is.

t00 playa
02-29-2008, 12:40 PM
what is everyones take on pearlands upcoming schedule?

Scrimmage: Hightower at home
week 1: Madison (away)
week 2: Kempnar (home)
week 3: Spring Branch Memorial (away)
week 4: Bye
week 5: Pasadena (home/homecoming)
week 6: Sam Rayburn (away)
week 7: LaPorte (home)
week 8: Pasadena Memorial (home)
week 9: South Houston (away)
week 10: Deer Park (Home)
week 11: Dobie (away)

i think deer park and memorial will be your toughest games... and you have them both at home.... very favorable schedule....:eek:

HUM398
02-29-2008, 01:20 PM
its a snoozer of a schedule.

Where are the houston top 20 teams? State top 10 team?... Not one, except in the Scrimmage...

ThEgReAtOnE
02-29-2008, 02:08 PM
what is everyones take on pearlands upcoming schedule?

Scrimmage: Hightower at home
week 1: Madison (away)
week 2: Kempnar (home)
week 3: Spring Branch Memorial (away)
week 4: Bye
week 5: Pasadena (home/homecoming)
week 6: Sam Rayburn (away)
week 7: LaPorte (home)
week 8: Pasadena Memorial (home)
week 9: South Houston (away)
week 10: Deer Park (Home)
week 11: Dobie (away)

Scrimmage: Hightower (Should be interesting!)
Week 1: Madison - Doesn't return much, but a decent RB. P'land should WIN.

Week 2: Kempner - Returns a non-starter in Sophmore, RB-Bell (6-1 190) w/ 4 on the O-line who will average 6-2 250. Defensively, the FB area always produces solid defenses. That said, P'land should WIN.

Week 3: Spring Branch Memorial - They return their top QB, 2 RB's, 2 WR's and about 5 250-270 lb D/O-linemen who were above average to solid. They return some solid players from a defense that didn't allow Pearland (21), Westfield (9), IKE (21) or Stratford (7) more than 26 pts. Might be a bit bumpy, but you should still WIN.

Week 4: Bye - might be tough, but you should win. :D

Week 5: Pasadena - Decent RB-Torres and LB-Reyes returns. That's it, from what I hear/saw. No brainer, P'land should WIN.

Week 6: Sam Rayburn - Returns about 30 SO and Fr... inclduing their #1 QB (offensive threat) Cat Cantu and RB-Ham w/ a few decent size athletes. Their defense was horrible. If they get that even slightly corrected they might give P'land a few tiny fits (doubt it though), but P'land should WIN.

Week 7: LaPorte - They got a RB that will be a Jr, next year, dude is 6-3 200 lbs (Perkins).. not bad at carrying the rock, if you know what I mean! He might play a little QB, too. They got a 6-4 190 lb WR that has excellent hands and YAC (18). They've got some beef on the O-line, averaging about 250-260. That said.. their defense wont be much.. P'land should WIN.

Week 8: Pasadena Memorial - BO returns w/ a sporadic offense capable of scoring on any team. They lose Dylan, but his brother Chase might take over at QB, if Damon doesn't produce in the Spring. They return 3 250+ pounders on the O-line. OT-Socie, at 6-5 280, is a D1 prospect and their #1 WR-Imhoff (6-3 200) is too. On defense, Memorial has a few D1 prospects led by LB-Taylor Hart (6-1 210). I'm looking forward to this game. I don't know who I think would win, as of today. Undecided.

Week 9: South Houston - Lost QB-Howell! That's ball game, folks! If Pearland doesn't WIN they should discontinue the football program. (No offense to SH!)

Week 10: Deer Park - We already know Deer Park will be pretty tough, led by QB-Cook, RB-Carter, WR-Moose, DT-Victor, DT-Dixon, DB-The Fetgater bro's, WR/KR-Gonzales, C-Burden, TE-Brown, OT-Enriquez and DE/LB-Garmon. I'll probably be at this game, as well as the Memorial/Deer Park game. Undecided.

Week 11: Dobie - They lost their 2 best threats at QB... both of whom who had a 38&#37; completion pct. They shouldn't be a threat for P'land. You should definitely WIN!

With the offensive players P'land has coming back.. their offense should average 30-35 pts (at least) per game.

Pearland Longhorn
02-29-2008, 10:07 PM
I'm still not big on Pasadena Memorial. They had no depth last year and that won't change this year. I forget the exact score but they lost by about 3 possessions to NS at home. We lose by 4 points to NS on a neutral field in a game with questionable calls that could have swayed the outcome. Yet the majority of people here still seem to think PM was better than us? I think you have to be really selective in your argument when comparing those two teams for PM to appear better. We had a lot more going for us.

They're an above average team but I don't think we have much to worry about. We always do well against teams that rely on one back to put all their points on the board.

Deer Park should be solid. The game should decide the district champ and with it being on Halloween the atmosphere should be pretty intense.

Deer Park will beat P. Memorial.

TGO, what do you think about Shawn Onyechi? Better than his brother? Does he think he can run over 250lb D-lineman every play like his brother thought?

ThEgReAtOnE
03-01-2008, 08:09 AM
I'm still not big on Pasadena Memorial. They had no depth last year and that won't change this year. I forget the exact score but they lost by about 3 possessions to NS at home. We lose by 4 points to NS on a neutral field in a game with questionable calls that could have swayed the outcome. Yet the majority of people here still seem to think PM was better than us? I think you have to be really selective in your argument when comparing those two teams for PM to appear better. We had a lot more going for us.

They're an above average team but I don't think we have much to worry about. We always do well against teams that rely on one back to put all their points on the board.

Deer Park should be solid. The game should decide the district champ and with it being on Halloween the atmosphere should be pretty intense.

Deer Park will beat P. Memorial.

TGO, what do you think about Shawn Onyechi? Better than his brother? Does he think he can run over 250lb D-lineman every play like his brother thought?

Above average?? Outside of Pflugerville, Pasadena Memorial was Katy's toughest challenge, all year. KT2000 will tell you that. The PM/NS score was 21-17 going into halftime, and PM put up a total of 400 yds of offense on NS. Snelson had 206 yds and 3 tds w/ 6.5 yds per carry. Pearland put up 230 yds of offense. Now, the score was 52-31 vs PM... but 10 of those pts came with 2 minutes left to play.. on a FG and INT returned for td. And, I presonally witnessed the DE for PM give up 2 Zone Read Keepers to the NS QB. He went with the RB every time, didn't contain, and NS scored. Had the game been played again, at the end of the year, I think it would've been much closer. You can say you held NS to less yds (350) than PM, but PM can say they put up 400 yds and 31 pts on NS.

This year, PM loses Dylan at QB but his brother may come from WR to replace him if this Damon kid doesn't step up. Also, Snelson returns, as does a 6-4 245 lb DE (Martinez), 6-3 200 lb WR (Imhoff), 6-5 280 lb OT (Socie), 6-1 210 lb LB (Hart) and other players (O-line/DB's) who were instrumental, last year.

As far as Onyechi. I don't think he'll be faster than his brother. I think Shawn is a 4.5/4.6 kid and his bro was a legit 4.3/4.4. However, Shawn is a beast (even at his size) in the weight room. I think he benches 325-330 lbs at like 175-180 lbs. Anyhow, YEP.. he'll run over everything in sight... or at least think he can! :D

KT2000
03-01-2008, 10:13 AM
For not having much depth, Pasadena Memorial was one of the best conditioned teams I saw all year long. They were in great shape physically, and played both North Shore and Katy toe to toe.

I'm very impressed with their program based on what they showed on the field. They went all out for the full four quarters, and appeared to do it with class as well. I have a lot of respect for that program.

Dynastybegan86
03-02-2008, 10:57 PM
Who would be stupid enough to look past Katy to another opponent? Anyone with a game against SC the next week maybe? I was just giving the opposite look of his post. Plus, NS coaching has come into question as of late, and as the poster said...THE BIG ONE! Southlake Carroll. They are already looking to SC, so I guess the answer to your question is...Northshore.

Good programs worry about the game at hand, not the game next week. I agree 100%

See RED

Dynastybegan86
03-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Actually, Katy vs GPN is THE BIG ONE!! Katy will win because you are looking ahead to the SC game. Of course that's a good thing for y'all. Why? Well it will help you refocus for SC and it will give SC a false since of superiority. You'll win 30-14!! How you like them apples?:cool:

Maybe I should've used this :D

Dynastybegan86
03-02-2008, 11:06 PM
Dynastybegan86 if Katy wins it won't be because of me, I'm just a fan.:rolleyes:

Anyone would be nuts to overlook Katy I agree 100%
, I just gave my opinion. All I gave was a different opinion :cool:

With their youth, loss of players and the game being played in week zero I feel confident with what we have coming back. Do you realize that our 2nds and 3rds got lots of playing time last year, and with what we have coming back, I feel confident as well. Honestly, the only returners that need to come back for Katy to continue to be successful is the coaching staff. :notworthy

I can't speak for the coach or players, but believe me someone somewhere felt confident enough to schedule those games. That goes both ways doesn't it???



See RED

Katyexrb29
03-03-2008, 12:48 AM
A lot of people already have Katy pegged with a lose to Northshore due to there slow starts. Question, does Katy still start slow with Joseph at the helm?

Pearland Longhorn
03-03-2008, 02:53 AM
It's not that people are just pegging it as a loss. No one is that brain dead. Most people are just assuming NS should be the favorite. With the experience and talent NS is returning on key positions you have to like their chances.

Redhoss
03-03-2008, 07:51 AM
A lot of people already have Katy pegged with a lose to Northshore due to there slow starts. Question, does Katy still start slow with Joseph at the helm?

We didn't start as slow this past year but we had lots of experience on the squad. I think we still start slow.

Redhoss
03-03-2008, 07:52 AM
It's not that people are just pegging it as a loss. No one is that brain dead. Most people are just assuming NS should be the favorite. With the experience and talent NS is returning on key positions you have to like their chances.

I think that's an accurate assessment.

Pearland Longhorn
03-03-2008, 11:49 AM
We didn't start as slow this past year but we had lots of experience on the squad. I think we still start slow.

Neither team will be playing at their full capabilities. I think North Shores defense will show up though. With playmakers like Jones, Woods, and Mathews on offense NS should be able to put up a few TD's. Like Too Playa has talked about though, the new QB will have to do more than just not screw up for NS to win another ring.

KT2000
03-03-2008, 12:17 PM
North Shore and Katy have the same main ? this off-season as far as the QB position is concerned. I think both have a chance to be very good if a QB emerges.

I'll keep an eye on Hightower next year. They've got AJ Highsmith back, and he's got a few of his top skill guys returning as well.

giantsfaninkaty
03-03-2008, 11:29 PM
In no particular order...

Lamar
Klein Oak
Cy-Ridge
Cinco Ranch
North Shore
FB Hightower
Eisenhower
Katy
Pasadena Memorial
The Woodlands

Those are just a few that come to mind that could possibly make the top 10. There are probably a few others.

I think Cinco has a really good chance of coming on strong this year, and Cy-Ridge is definately going to be a terror.

I'm glad to see the love for cinco ranch. I have high hopes for the cougars this coming fall. they have a solid core of offence returnings with leaders in the backfield, line and recieveing and are returning a letterman in each position on defense, they look to be very competitive in the new 17-5a and may even give katy a battle for district

nsmustang
03-04-2008, 07:57 AM
We didn't start as slow this past year but we had lots of experience on the squad. I think we still start slow.

NS doesn't always come out of the chute fast either. Last year they were hanging by a thread in the season opener against Aldine and were down by 17points. You can't let a team like Katy get that far ahead. There won't be a miraculous come back. I believe Katy fans are like NS fans. We are used to seeing our team win and can get a bit nervous with an opening game of this caliber. It'll be a great game no matter who wins and I believe each side has the utmost respect for the other. Also, about looking to SLC, I think NS does not play them until several games down the line. Aymond keeps them one week at a time.

Redhoss
03-04-2008, 11:44 AM
NS doesn't always come out of the chute fast either. Last year they were hanging by a thread in the season opener against Aldine and were down by 17points. You can't let a team like Katy get that far ahead. There won't be a miraculous come back. I believe Katy fans are like NS fans. We are used to seeing our team win and can get a bit nervous with an opening game of this caliber. It'll be a great game no matter who wins and I believe each side has the utmost respect for the other. Also, about looking to SLC, I think NS does not play them until several games down the line. Aymond keeps them one week at a time.

I've been wanting to play teams in the area that we don't normally see because of the stupid divisions. :)
Hopefully we'll be playing on an annual basis. I'd like to include Pearland and a few other teams in the mix as well.

nsmustang
03-04-2008, 12:50 PM
I've been wanting to play teams in the area that we don't normally see because of the stupid divisions. :)
Hopefully we'll be playing on an annual basis. I'd like to include Pearland and a few other teams in the mix as well.

I think most of us feel the same way. Sometimes it's the only way to get good quality games scheduled. Pearland would be a good game for Katy also, and, despite some of the rhetoric on this board, Pland will field a very competitive team. I thought last year they were the toughest team NS played.

Dynastybegan86
03-05-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm glad to see the love for cinco ranch. I have high hopes for the cougars this coming fall. they have a solid core of offence returnings with leaders in the backfield, line and recieveing and are returning a letterman in each position on defense, they look to be very competitive in the new 17-5a and may even give katy a battle for district

I wish somebody would, Cinco is as good as any. Unlikely that they will win, but might be like the 06 game.

fballmaniac
03-10-2008, 09:41 AM
My Top Ten in Houston for 2008:

1. CyRidge - Very Talented. Loaded with skilled players.
2. Eisenhower - Probably more D1 talent than any other school in Houston
3. Northshore - Replacing The Woodlands with hardest schedule in state
4. The Woodlands - Returning 17 starters and 6 all district players, weaker schedule
5. Katy - May lose two games in non-district before starting very weak district schedule
6. Westfield - Never under estimate their talent
7. Lufkin - Clearly a rebuilding year, regardless what anyone says.
8. CyFalls - Could be the sleeper in Houston.
9. Klein Oak - While they lost talent, they return talent.
10. tie: Pearland or FB Hightower - Toss up.

WestlandTiger'95
03-11-2008, 02:02 PM
I dont think that the fact that Katy is playing a hard predistrict schedule should be a factor in them being so low on so many lists. To me, anything outside of top 3 is too low....i may be wrong come October, but katy has proven without a doubt that they reload EVERY year and are the top houston area program year in and year out. Its hard for me to put somebody above Katy that has not proven themselves. I know that 08 is a totally new year...blah blah blah, but Katy more than anybody can rely on history to argue what is to come. I just like that ole "#1 till somebody knocks you off", esp with established programs and not a " flash in the pan" D1 all star team.

but Im a homer....with good cause:D

My top would be

Katy (would you really be surprised if they go 5-0 out the gate?)
Northshore
Cy ridge
The woodlands
Westfield
Ike
Pas memorial
Falls
Klein oak
pearland

if katy going 5-0 wouldnt surprise you, than they have to be the top team.
Northshore could go 5-0, but it would be a surprise to me. That may be a wierd way to rank a team but for a preseason poll i think the "surprise" factor has to be there.

Fleeman93
03-11-2008, 03:10 PM
I dont think that the fact that Katy is playing a hard predistrict schedule should be a factor in them being so low on so many lists. To me, anything outside of top 3 is too low....i may be wrong come October, but katy has proven without a doubt that they reload EVERY year and are the top houston area program year in and year out. Its hard for me to put somebody above Katy that has not proven themselves. I know that 08 is a totally new year...blah blah blah, but Katy more than anybody can rely on history to argue what is to come. I just like that ole "#1 till somebody knocks you off", esp with established programs and not a " flash in the pan" D1 all star team.

but Im a homer....with good cause:D

My top would be

Katy (would you really be surprised if they go 5-0 out the gate?)
Northshore
Cy ridge
The woodlands
Westfield
Ike
Pas memorial
Falls
Klein oak
pearland

if katy going 5-0 wouldnt surprise you, than they have to be the top team.
Northshore could go 5-0, but it would be a surprise to me. That may be a wierd way to rank a team but for a preseason poll i think the "surprise" factor has to be there.

Would you be surprised if Katy went 0-5 or 1-4 and then went on to play in the state game?

Redhoss
03-12-2008, 03:25 PM
Would you be surprised if Katy went 0-5 or 1-4 and then went on to play in the state game?

I would be shocked. :eek:

I wouldn't be surprised at any given year to be 3-2 or 2-3 and win State but Katy isn't going to lose 4 or 5 pre-season games. We start slow but not that slow. :D

dada
03-12-2008, 03:39 PM
I would be shocked. :eek:

I wouldn't be surprised at any given year to be 3-2 or 2-3 and win State but Katy isn't going to lose 4 or 5 pre-season games. We start slow but not that slow. :D

North Shore
@The Woodlands
@ FM Marcus(Waco)
@ West Brook
Cypress Bay, Florida

I would be happy being 3-2 going into district play.....if they come out of that 5-0.....look out.

Fleeman93
03-12-2008, 04:15 PM
I would be shocked. :eek:

I wouldn't be surprised at any given year to be 3-2 or 2-3 and win State but Katy isn't going to lose 4 or 5 pre-season games. We start slow but not that slow. :D

I'm just saying that Katy could very well go to state this year with the possibility of losing 3, 4 or even 5 games to start the season. Katy will learn everything they need to fix in pre district and fix it in district. This will be an old school fun Katy season.

Dynastybegan86
03-12-2008, 10:36 PM
I'm just saying that Katy could very well go to state this year with the possibility of losing 3, 4 or even 5 games to start the season. Katy will learn everything they need to fix in pre district and fix it in district. This will be an old school fun Katy season.

I don't know if my fingernails can handle it:o

Snotbubbles and firstdowns....ok let's play some smashmouth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebuxyxptAo

rodjohns
03-13-2008, 09:38 AM
I dont think that the fact that Katy is playing a hard predistrict schedule should be a factor in them being so low on so many lists. To me, anything outside of top 3 is too low....i may be wrong come October, but katy has proven without a doubt that they reload EVERY year and are the top houston area program year in and year out. Its hard for me to put somebody above Katy that has not proven themselves. I know that 08 is a totally new year...blah blah blah, but Katy more than anybody can rely on history to argue what is to come. I just like that ole "#1 till somebody knocks you off", esp with established programs and not a " flash in the pan" D1 all star team.

but Im a homer....with good cause:D

My top would be

Katy (would you really be surprised if they go 5-0 out the gate?)
Northshore
Cy ridge
The woodlands
Westfield
Ike
Pas memorial
Falls
Klein oak
pearland

if katy going 5-0 wouldnt surprise you, than they have to be the top team.
Northshore could go 5-0, but it would be a surprise to me. That may be a wierd way to rank a team but for a preseason poll i think the "surprise" factor has to be there.

Why do you guys keep putting Klein Oak in the top 10? They may only go .500 in their district. Do you know something we don't know? I do however appreciate that 2 13-5A teams are in your top 10....

ftballin11
03-13-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm just saying that Katy could very well go to state this year with the possibility of losing 3, 4 or even 5 games to start the season. Katy will learn everything they need to fix in pre district and fix it in district. This will be an old school fun Katy season.

Yea atleast these games will be exciting, this past year was great and all but the games were kinda boring.

ktchamp97
03-13-2008, 03:25 PM
Here's 8 that I like a lot...at this very early point anyway.

1. North Shore
2. Cy Ridge
3. Eisenhower

Katy
Pearland
Hightower
Westfield
West Brook

Other potential contenders, in no order...
Humble
Dickinson
Klein Oak
Klein Forest
The Woodlands
Spring
Cy Falls
Cy Woods
Cinco Ranch
Houston Lamar

shady08
03-13-2008, 03:35 PM
i agree with you

Redhoss
03-13-2008, 11:22 PM
I'm just saying that Katy could very well go to state this year with the possibility of losing 3, 4 or even 5 games to start the season. Katy will learn everything they need to fix in pre district and fix it in district. This will be an old school fun Katy season.

Since you put that way, I agree. :D

nsmustang
03-17-2008, 04:56 PM
I'm just saying that Katy could very well go to state this year with the possibility of losing 3, 4 or even 5 games to start the season. Katy will learn everything they need to fix in pre district and fix it in district. This will be an old school fun Katy season.

That is exactly right. I only say this because it's district play that counts.
Katy won't lose that many games in non district. They are too good. You guys have the same fear as NS fans with a tough non- district schedule. Come playoffs they will be right in the thick of it.