View Full Version : Contender or Pretender.. Rich. Berkner
BHS0005
10-21-2005, 05:59 PM
what do yall think? Will Berkner make any noise in the playoffs?
GarlandOwl06
10-21-2005, 06:01 PM
They might make it to the third round because that side of the bracket is so weak but I don't think theyll get much farther than than.
svrangerfan
10-21-2005, 06:46 PM
The noise will be comparable to a cat getting run over by a steamroller. That is one weak district they are in.
goscots
10-21-2005, 07:46 PM
Their QB, while pretty annoying, is quite the athlete. He could carry them past a game or two.
I think his name is Justin Johnson.
GoOwls
10-22-2005, 05:18 AM
Like was stated above, plays in a weak sister district and will be exposed by week 3 of the playoffs because they have a very favorable draw the first two rounds. Until they beat somebody, they are just another Skyline to me. Not trying to be mean, just saying it like it is.
BHS0005
10-22-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm not tryin to be mean, but i don't think Garland will make it past week 2. So if Berkner gets to week 3, thats pretty good. They would be the top 4 teams in division 1. Anyways, Berkner won last night 28-0 to RL Turner. Berkner didn't have two runningbacks ( suspended) and their starting left guard. They played the worse game of the year yet still won big time.
relraiderfan
10-22-2005, 11:23 PM
The noise will be comparable to a cat getting run over by a steamroller. That is one weak district they are in.
Nice post. That definatly made me laugh. They would probably have to play Rockwall or a Garland school in the 2nd round, so they will probably go out then.
lonny23
10-23-2005, 05:59 AM
They might benefit from playing weak teams, but can't run with the big boys.
GoOwls
10-24-2005, 02:13 AM
I'm not tryin to be mean, but i don't think Garland will make it past week 2. So if Berkner gets to week 3, thats pretty good. They would be the top 4 teams in division 1. Anyways, Berkner won last night 28-0 to RL Turner. Berkner didn't have two runningbacks ( suspended) and their starting left guard. They played the worse game of the year yet still won big time.
If you had to play John Tyler and Carter in the first two rounds, you wouldn't either, which is my point, you don't have to play strong teams the first two rounds and though you might make it farther in the bracket, it will be less impressive because of the strength of your schedule.
Texas Tech looked great till they played Texas, which is my point about your team.
BHS0005
10-24-2005, 06:51 PM
To be honest, Lake Highlands is better than Garland. Come talk to me when Garland plays a team like Ducanville ( berkner won 34-16)
GarlandOwl06
10-24-2005, 07:03 PM
To be honest, Lake Highlands is better than Garland. Come talk to me when Garland plays a team like Ducanville ( berkner won 34-16)
WHATTTTTTT??????? ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS? LAKE HIGHLANDS BETTER THAN GARLAND!??!?!? And we actually played Carter, DeSoto, PESH, and one of the 4a best Ennis. All 4 are probably better than Duncanville. The Berkner district is horrible and by the way, how many passing yards do yall have?? Youre 1-dimensional!!!
Not to say that Lake Highalnds doesnt have a decent teeam, but to say they are better than Garland is just not true seeing as garland is number 8 in the dfw
BHS0005
10-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Who has the most rushing yards in 5a? Berkner... Our offense is unstoppable and will continue that throughout the playoffs bc no other team runs the offense we run, which is crucial since the defense has never seen the kind of offense we run. Lake Highlands is a good team. Our district sucks, but oh well, we blow out everyone in the district. Ducanville is better than DeSoto, Ennis, and PESH lol. Berkner is better than Garland and any other Garland team out there. We dominated Garland Lakeview 21-3 at their stadium.We are #5 in the area. Yall thought Carters offense was good... catch paint with Berkner
Who has the most rushing yards in 5a? Berkner... Our offense is unstoppable and will continue that throughout the playoffs bc no other team runs the offense we run, which is crucial since the defense has never seen the kind of offense we run. Lake Highlands is a good team. Our district sucks, but oh well, we blow out everyone in the district. Ducanville is better than DeSoto, Ennis, and PESH lol. Berkner is better than Garland and any other Garland team out there. We dominated Garland Lakeview 21-3 at their stadium.We are #5 in the area. Yall thought Carters offense was good... catch paint with Berkner
Did you not start a thread yesterday called "What is the hardest district in 5a?" and then proceeded to say in your post, quote, "has to be 10-5a"????
lotta credibility you got goin there bud. I know you love your team and all, and you think it's a given that they'll win the State Championship, but why don't you wait a few weeks into November before you start saying Berkner will be unstoppable in the playoffs, ESPECIALLY when they're going to be in Division I. We don't want you to go suddenly "missing", like so many other overzealous younguns, the day after your team actually plays somebody in the playoffs. :)
GoOwls
10-24-2005, 10:12 PM
Who has the most rushing yards in 5a? Berkner... Our offense is unstoppable and will continue that throughout the playoffs bc no other team runs the offense we run, which is crucial since the defense has never seen the kind of offense we run. Lake Highlands is a good team. Our district sucks, but oh well, we blow out everyone in the district. Ducanville is better than DeSoto, Ennis, and PESH lol. Berkner is better than Garland and any other Garland team out there. We dominated Garland Lakeview 21-3 at their stadium.We are #5 in the area. Yall thought Carters offense was good... catch paint with Berkner
Make sure you don't suddenly just not be able to be found after you actually play somebody, because I want you to admit you have the biggest rose colored glasses in the state when you get your whipping.
Texas Tech was killing everybody on offense, then Texas came along and gave them a whipping, because they PLAYED SOMEBODY. Using your math of a 21-3 victory over lowly Lakeview, North Garland beat them something like 42-7, or worse, and Garland beat North 24-6.
Don't you go anywhere after you get whipped, I want you to be a man after you take your whipping, just like you are being a big man now and throwing that homer stuff out.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-24-2005, 10:15 PM
The noise will be comparable to a cat getting run over by a steamroller. That is one weak district they are in.
That's one of the more funnier lines I've read on this site! LOL!!!!!!!!
I agree...Berkner is kidding themselves....and within 2 rounds of the playoffs, they'll be bi***-slapped with a does of reality!
CCBoy
10-25-2005, 07:08 AM
Who has the most rushing yards in 5a? Berkner... Our offense is unstoppable and will continue that throughout the playoffs bc no other team runs the offense we run, which is crucial since the defense has never seen the kind of offense we run. Lake Highlands is a good team. Our district sucks, but oh well, we blow out everyone in the district. Ducanville is better than DeSoto, Ennis, and PESH lol. Berkner is better than Garland and any other Garland team out there. We dominated Garland Lakeview 21-3 at their stadium.We are #5 in the area. Yall thought Carters offense was good... catch paint with Berkner
Most rushing yards in 5A means nothing. Stay humble and excited at the same time. Wait to knock everybody else after it's all said and done, because those may be the same guys who you face when it counts. Good luck and don't look past the first round yet.
CCBoy
10-25-2005, 08:29 AM
To be honest, Lake Highlands is better than Garland. Come talk to me when Garland plays a team like Ducanville ( berkner won 34-16)
Do you realize that Duncanville lost to Arlington Martin, which is the bottom of the barrell in 7-5A?
Carter Cowboy
10-25-2005, 09:19 AM
Forget the cat and the steam roller comment..this whole thread is pure comedy...especially the replies. I have nothing negative to say about anyone's program, but rather a word of advice for the berkner fan.......DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH!!!
Eagle81
10-25-2005, 10:05 AM
Forget the cat and the steam roller comment..this whole thread is pure comedy...especially the replies. I have nothing negative to say about anyone's program, but rather a word of advice for the berkner fan.......DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH!!!
Don't think the players and coaches are. But it sure looks like there may be a few teams that are looking past the Rams. I'm telling you that's a mistake. Everyone knows the Rams are a running team. They face eight and nine in the box every week. Hell I've seen the safety 8 yards from the line of scrimmage but Berkner still puts up 300 yards rushing a game. I think it will take a lot better defense than Rockwall or Garland to stop them. The question is can Berkner stop the other offenses. They have been somewhat inconsistant on defense. I still say Berkner goes at least 3 rounds deep.
BHS0005
10-25-2005, 04:20 PM
Thanks eagle81.... Yall don't know what yall are talkin bout. Yall havent seen Berkner play this year. I want yall to watch some of the games on Comcast. The defense is actually pretty good at times.... shut out RL Turner, Pearce only had 1 offensive TD against 1st team defense, Lakeview had 3 pts, Mesquite horn and Ducanville had 2 touchdowns each. We have the second best weakside DE in the country in Ugo Chinasa. Our D-Line is big, having 3 guys 6'5 or taller. The linebackers are really good, one of them running a 4.3. And when is the last time you saw a 6'3 cornerback? All I'm saying is that yall are up for a surprise, underating Berkner. Before yall know it, we will be respected for once.
dragonsdaddy
10-25-2005, 04:30 PM
rberk may in fact be all you say, but you have to get some better comparisons than what you did to one of the worst teams in one of the weakest districts in the metromess. rlt is not a team that puts any fear at all into any team they play. get some stronger opponents to brag about whipping, or keep it on the sly.
GoOwls
10-25-2005, 08:22 PM
Thanks eagle81.... Yall don't know what yall are talkin bout. Yall havent seen Berkner play this year. I want yall to watch some of the games on Comcast. The defense is actually pretty good at times.... shut out RL Turner, Pearce only had 1 offensive TD against 1st team defense, Lakeview had 3 pts, Mesquite horn and Ducanville had 2 touchdowns each. We have the second best weakside DE in the country in Ugo Chinasa. Our D-Line is big, having 3 guys 6'5 or taller. The linebackers are really good, one of them running a 4.3. And when is the last time you saw a 6'3 cornerback? All I'm saying is that yall are up for a surprise, underating Berkner. Before yall know it, we will be respected for once.
Like I said, don't be a big missing mystery after you get your whipping. Come back on here and take it like a man, you sure are dishing it out like one. Heck, let's just stop the whole season now and give you guys the championship trophy since you have deemed them "unbeatable". Gosh I wish you had to play somebody before week 3 of the playoffs so this whole business could be settled and over.
BHS0005
10-25-2005, 09:39 PM
you are pretty sarcastice there buddy. Grow up, there's nothing wrong with a little pride for your team.
Jtate862003
10-25-2005, 10:20 PM
I knwo lee is nothing this year...but i do remember a berkner fan running his mouth last year then they hit lee a "QUalitY" opponent and got badly beaten..........I predict the same this year....and 1 DE does not make the team and i hope you got a passing game bc if you run all the time all you have to do is stack the box......SO hey berkner fan after yall get beat come back here and whine and ill serve you some cheese with it
GoOwls
10-25-2005, 10:32 PM
you are pretty sarcastice there buddy. Grow up, there's nothing wrong with a little pride for your team.
Pride is one thing. Being unrealistic is another.
I have pride in my Owls, but I'm realistic. If they don't play a better brand of ball than they have this year, it's round 2 at best.
All I have to know is your schedule and that you run really good, but don't have a passing game, and I can assure you Garland would beat you by 20 or more. To beat us you spread us with the deep pass and the inside and outside run. If you don't spread us, effectively, you lose. Our two losses came to teams that spread us, Carter, a really good team ranked in the top 10 in the state, by a TD, and DeSoto in 5 OT's, we had 7 turnovers and that QB got canned after that game.
Be prideful of your team, it's your right, but don't look dumb by throwing homerisms that just aren't true, and soon you will know it, first hand.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-25-2005, 10:38 PM
Please,
Berkner has never been a contender never been close to sniffing a championship in Football. They play in a very weak district. Only reason you guys have done well is a little better talent and no Plano schools that pounded on Berkner for the last 25 years in District.
Enjoy the season. You might even get a playoff win or two. However, it can't erase 30 years of a losing tradition by winning 8 games in a row in one.
BHS03
10-26-2005, 12:10 AM
You never know.. all good streaks begin with a single win. This thread is as pointless as all the 'TEXAS IS #1!' threads. We'll find out soon enough how long this ride will last.
PurpleNation
10-26-2005, 01:21 AM
Did I miss something did he say 10-5A is the Toughest District in the State. LOL I will not begin to even correct that one. Berk no dout has improved but reality will set in come playoff time and they will be another 10-0 erased with no quality wins.
CCBoy
10-26-2005, 06:49 AM
You know how can get respect? By not dogging everyone else's program....Always stay modest even through your wins....Discuss strengths and weaknesses of other teams as well as your team. It is hard trying to explain yourself after you lose and you talked cash crap about everybody else and nothing but perfection about Berkner. You can still have pride in your team and do all that. You'll probably have more fans for Berkner if it wasn't for certain posters that support your school. Again, good luck!
Eagle81
10-26-2005, 10:14 AM
Plano schools that pounded on Berkner for the last 25 years in District.
Enjoy the season. You might even get a playoff win or two. However, it can't erase 30 years of a losing tradition by winning 8 games in a row in one.
The last year Berkner was in that district they made the playoffs and finished off Plano's 0-10 record. And if they were in that district this year would very probably finish second to Plano. You wanna talk weak district, outside of Plano, there's nobody in that district that puts the fear of the lord in ya.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-26-2005, 11:09 PM
The last year Berkner was in that district they made the playoffs and finished off Plano's 0-10 record. And if they were in that district this year would very probably finish second to Plano. You wanna talk weak district, outside of Plano, there's nobody in that district that puts the fear of the lord in ya.
You made my point. Plano beat Berkner 29 out of 31 years. Your right Berkner made the playoffs that year but had to beat an 0-9 Plano in the last game of the year. With all that riding on it they only beat Plano barely in OT and only because Plano missed their extra point which would of put them up 1 with under 10 seconds to go n the game.
Berkners best ever team to that point in 35 years can barely beat Plano's worst team ever. :confused:
GarlandOwl06
10-26-2005, 11:28 PM
Berkners best ever team to that point in 35 years can barely beat Plano's worst team ever. :confused:
LOL Great point.
BHS03
10-27-2005, 02:14 AM
I'm curious how much things will shakeup after realignment this winter. I'm not sure what the odds are of this district occuring but it's geographically logical.. the 4 RISD schools and the 3 PISD schools and Wylie, who should move up to 5A from what I've heard. We, as fans, would have a heck of a regular season to enjoy.
If that doesnt happen, I'd love for Berkner to at least schedule a non-league game against a Plano school, for old times' sake. The weakness of 10-5A is definitely limiting Berkner's potential. It's hard to improve without solid competition.
Eagle81
10-27-2005, 10:04 AM
Berkners best ever team to that point in 35 years can barely beat Plano's worst team ever. :confused:
Who stayed home and continued to play? You can't win a state championship if your watching the playoffs.
Plano Wildcat Fan
10-27-2005, 10:39 AM
Who stayed home and continued to play? You can't win a state championship if your watching the playoffs.
Your absolutely right. Plano has 7 state championships and 41 playoff appearances. How many does Allen have? That would be 0 State Championships! :cool:
BHS0005
10-27-2005, 02:47 PM
This is the first year Plano has done anything since Plano was split into three schools.. Plano, Plano East, Plano West.
Eagle81
10-27-2005, 03:19 PM
Your absolutely right. Plano has 7 state championships and 41 playoff appearances. How many does Allen have? That would be 0 State Championships! :cool:
Let me think???? Oh, I know how about zero. Here's something for ya. I could care less how many championships Allen has. Actually the Eagle in my screen name is for the Abilene Eagles. My kids go to Berkner which is why I'm posting on this thread. As the thread reads "Contender or Pretender", I don't think the Rams are pretenders. By the same token, I don't think there's a state championship waiting for them this year. But I do think it's kind of ridiculous to just discount them (especially if you haven't seen them play). This is the best team in Berkner's history without a doubt and I think they can advance at least to the third round. I'm not claiming that they are a level above anyone. As the Plano faithful will admit, once the playoffs start anything can happen. I certainly mean no disrespect to Plano's program at all. I think its really cool the kind of season you guys are having and I wish them the best of luck in the playoffs.
BHS0005
10-29-2005, 04:34 PM
Can't wait until the playoffs. Berkner has allowed only 2 offensive touchdowns in 3 games. Pretty impressive.
GarlandOwl06
10-30-2005, 12:01 AM
Can't wait until the playoffs. Berkner has allowed only 2 offensive touchdowns in 3 games. Pretty impressive.
Yea ok against who...
BHS0005
11-05-2005, 03:54 PM
excuse me.. 3 offensive touchdowns in 4 games....... :)
The Lone Ranger
11-05-2005, 03:59 PM
In Berkner's last 7 games, they have beaten Jesuit, Lake Highlands, Pearce, Richardson, Creekview, Newman Smith, and Turner (not sure of the order). They beat Creekview last night to win the 10-5A championship (is that Berkner's first ever football district championship?). In non-district, they beat Mesquite Horn (who barely missed the playoffs), Lakeview Centennial, and Duncanville (arguably the best non-playoff team in the state).
Their schedule hasn't been too hard, but it wasn't a cakewalk either.
I say they're for real-- I predict they lose to Trinity in the state semifinal.
Gridiron Guru
11-05-2005, 04:19 PM
Berkner is really good! Are they Lufkin, SLC??? No, but who is. As for them playing in a weak district...yes they do, but the overrated product of a weak district award goes to Carter playing in that crap the DISD calls football. When was the last time they sniffed past the third round of the playoffs? As for the Plano fan fixated on his team. Put Berkner and Lake Highlands together and what do you get...a school that still has 1,000 kids less than Plano with a hell of a lot better football team.
Kingwolf
11-05-2005, 04:31 PM
Berkner is really good! Are they Lufkin, SLC??? No, but who is. As for them playing in a weak district...yes they do, but the overrated product of a weak district award goes to Carter playing in that crap the DISD calls football. When was the last time they sniffed past the third round of the playoffs? As for the Plano fan fixated on his team. Put Berkner and Lake Highlands together and what do you get...a school that still has 1,000 kids less than Plano with a hell of a lot better football team.
I think they will be ok until they play TWS and then it will end.........look at Jesuit last year.....they got clobbered by LV.......
not convinced yet, play someone and we will see...........
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