Best RB

[Evil47]

People say Bradley Stephens is the best but after watching La Joya's RB Juan Martinez 300 Yards 5 TD game against McBradley(Mcallen) Memorial I was about to say there is some competition.

[Hunting82]

James Henry from Clemens could challenge anybody

[GTown02]

Vondrell McGee from Longview or Dimitri Nance from Euless Trinity would get my votes....

[Favpack]

Vondrell McGee from Longview or Dimitri Nance from Euless Trinity would get my votes....

Ditto - I lean toward McGee because I've watched him. Nance is great I'm sure - but he's got the best line in Texas and McGee seems to be more of a gamebreaker. But, McGee benefits from the best fb in Texas - Chris Ivory.

[TrojanHorse03]

1a. Dimitri Nance
1b. Laderrick Handy

[dragonfly]

If the RB from Coppell had anything around him I don't think there would be a question that he was the best.

[TrojanHorse03]

Just because he had nearly 200 vs. slc means anything. Not only does he dance to much, he had troubling problem with fumbling the football. I think if hes leading the state in any category its that one.

[dragonfootballfan]

Just because he had nearly 200 vs. slc means anything. Not only does he dance to much, he had troubling problem with fumbling the football. I think if hes leading the state in any category its that one.
maybe its because he is playing 5A football and his lineman look like they average 200 pounds and there is no real passing threat on his team.

[SLCDad]

If the RB from Coppell had anything around him I don't think there would be a question that he was the best.Don't most of the prep player evaluation folks have him (Emmanuel Moody) rated as the #1 back in Texas?

[dragonfootballfan]

Don't most of the prep player evaluation folks have him (Emmanuel Moody) rated as the #1 back in Texas?
they have him as the number one prospect for college which is just slightly different than the best high school back.

[dragonfootballfan]

Really the best runningback in the state this year is in 4A. He is Sergio Kindle and plays both runningback and linebacker for Woodrow Wilson. I am not sure of his numbers but he truly is incredible

[BigArab]

Just because he had nearly 200 vs. slc means anything. Not only does he dance to much, he had troubling problem with fumbling the football. I think if hes leading the state in any category its that one.

I have to agree. I've seen a couple of videos and he dances way to much and has acute fumbleitis.

1A. Vondrell McGee
1B. Chris Ivory
2. Dmitri Nance

Ivory may end up being the most complete back. Kind of a Cadillac and Ronnie kind of thing. He's just as fast, he's bigger, and he's stronger. He definitely doesn't have the moves Vondrell does, but when you take on defenders like he does, you don't need a lot of moves.

[c-lisle]

I have to agree. I've seen a couple of videos and he dances way to much and has acute fumbleitis.

1A. Vondrell McGee
1B. Chris Ivory
2. Dmitri Nance

Ivory may end up being the most complete back. Kind of a Cadillac and Ronnie kind of thing. He's just as fast, he's bigger, and he's stronger. He definitely doesn't have the moves Vondrell does, but when you take on defenders like he does, you don't need a lot of moves.


LOL. Ivory kept running over the same DB form Rockwall last week. I felt sorry for the kid.

[dragonfly]

Just because he had nearly 200 vs. slc means anything. Not only does he dance to much, he had troubling problem with fumbling the football. I think if hes leading the state in any category its that one.

I said that because he is one of the top national recruits. Somebody must think he's pretty good for him to be a top recruit...don't you think? IMO, he has to dance to find holes because his offensive line can't open one.

[dragonfly]

Really the best runningback in the state this year is in 4A. He is Sergio Kindle and plays both runningback and linebacker for Woodrow Wilson. I am not sure of his numbers but he truly is incredible

Are their any highlights of Kindle on another website?

[TrojanHorse03]

Hey you forget Dave Campbell's also said Emmanuel Moody would the STATE'S OFFENSIVE MVP....LOL RIGHT DISTRICT, WRONG BACK!!!! :p :D !!!!

[Big_Maar]

:cool: Vondrell McGee from Longview

[rich_pack]

Sergio is probably the best all around runningback, but no one has mentioned the kid from Rowlett, his name is Andre Pierce, who allready has 1,537 yards and 17 td's. I saw him awhile back and this kid is good!!!

[TrojanHorse03]

Now you know who really is underappreciated its that Justin Jordan from Plano. He single handedly makes Plano a team not to be taken lightly.

[travisk44]

Vondrell McGee, no question in mind.

[garlandowl08]

No respect for Dante Sloan, eh? Given, he has been out for 4 weeks, he was a leading rusher in the state during the first 4 games of the season...watch out for this kid, he means business. He may not be the most finesse-filled back but there is no tackling this man without giving him a bear hug and praying that he falls over.

[Butch Fifield]

Now you know who really is underappreciated its that Justin Jordan from Plano.

unfortunately he won't put up numbers like some of these guys. his last game, he only had 2 carries for 28 yards because Plano pulled their starters in the 1st quarter. but his yards per carry is way up there.

[VB Pack Fan]

I would like to know how you determine who,s the best rb, wr, db,etc. Stats can be missleading, Teams run different formations, shcemes and so on. Some backs and wr have a better o-line than other teams which makes a difference, so how can you tell who,s who. If anyone can enlighten me on this info I would love to know. :confused:

[myround0]

I would have to go with Mcgee...Every team the Lobos face stacks eight in the box and this guy does his work inside of two quarters and he is done for the game...obviously the Rockwall game didn't go as scripted, but the guy averages over 10 yards a carry...and i totally argee Mcgee benefits from having Ivory and a small quick line...but when you play a team and they stack eight in the box, pin their ears back an go after one player the Lobos have to do a better job at getting others involved...but clearly Mcgee and his cast can boast him being the state's best running back...

[dragonfootballfan]

I would have to go with Mcgee...Every team the Lobos face stacks eight in the box and this guy does his work inside of two quarters and he is done for the game...obviously the Rockwall game didn't go as scripted, but the guy averages over 10 yards a carry...and i totally argee Mcgee benefits from having Ivory and a small quick line...but when you play a team and they stack eight in the box, pin their ears back an go after one player the Lobos have to do a better job at getting others involved...but clearly Mcgee and his cast can boast him being the state's best running back...
Mcgee has receivers and other players on offense. For Sergio Kindle it is him and only him on offense and defense and his team did not have a scare from a sub-500 team

[myround0]

Mcgee has receivers and other players on offense. For Sergio Kindle it is him and only him on offense and defense and his team did not have a scare from a sub-500 team


man we can't get past Rockwall...trust me they will be the division 1 rep from the 12-5A and I will be waiting until you guys play

[dragonfootballfan]

man we can't get past Rockwall...trust me they will be the division 1 rep from the 12-5A and I will be waiting until you guys play
so now according to you Rockwall is the second best team in the state behind Longview. I cannot believe you just said that

[BigArab]

so now according to you Rockwall is the second best team in the state behind Longview. I cannot believe you just said that

Oh hush... so I guess ONE GAME that we won is going to dictate the rest of our season, eh? Considering we dismantled better teams, can you guys give me the definition of aberration? Get over yourself SLC...who cares what you think of our team and a near loss. WHO CARES?? Last I checked, we were still 8-0 and I don't care if a win is by 2 points or 30. It is still a win. We are also still giving up less yards per game than you, including this latest win. And if you paid attention, you would've noticed that McGee still had a good game through that. 16 carries for 130 yards and 2 TDs.

Soooo...back to the current topic. The reason I say McGee is because no matter what team they play, he'll still do his damage with 10 to 15 carries. That video on Nance, however, is pretty sick. He has some nice moves and makes people miss without losing a step or stopping. That's my problem with Moody...he stops when he dances and at the next level, he's going to get PLOWED by some 6'5" 290 defensive tackle. They don't really play those dancin games at the next level.

[dragonfootballfan]

Oh hush... so I guess ONE GAME that we won is going to dictate the rest of our season, eh? Considering we dismantled better teams, can you guys give me the definition of aberration? Get over yourself SLC...who cares what you think of our team and a near loss. WHO CARES?? Last I checked, we were still 8-0 and I don't care if a win is by 2 points or 30. It is still a win. We are also still giving up less yards per game than you, including this latest win. And if you paid attention, you would've noticed that McGee still had a good game through that. 16 carries for 130 yards and 2 TDs.

Soooo...back to the current topic. The reason I say McGee is because no matter what team they play, he'll still do his damage with 10 to 15 carries. That video on Nance, however, is pretty sick. He has some nice moves and makes people miss without losing a step or stopping. That's my problem with Moody...he stops when he dances and at the next level, he's going to get PLOWED by some 6'5" 290 defensive tackle. They don't really play those dancin games at the next level.
he is the one that brought up the fact that Rockwall was the second best team, not me. McGee is very good and so is Moody. Both are not as good as Sergio Kindle though

[TrojanHorse03]

Yeah...And Dimitri Nance is better than all of them! :D

[myround0]

he is the one that brought up the fact that Rockwall was the second best team, not me. McGee is very good and so is Moody. Both are not as good as Sergio Kindle though

I said you would see Rockwall in division 1, i never said they were the second best team in the state after they spank you, you will be the one saying that...i never called them number 2 state-wide...as for Kindle...it wil be beneath anyone from Dallas to show some love from anyone outside of the metroplex...who cares about kindle, if he were that good he would be the most talked about back going to the Texas Longhorn, but he is not and MCgee is...so again i say Vondrell MCgee is the state's best back...I am sure kindle is all everything for his team, just like Earl Campbell was for the John Tyler Lions years ago...but Kindle will not ever have to worry about carrying the rock next season

[VB Pack Fan]

So no one can tell me the process of how you determine the best of the best.I guess it just as I rated the best back last year, it the one that you like or the one that,s on your favorite team with the good stats, oh by the way last year it was "Lane" :eek:

[TWHS72]

Every one doesnt know who the #1 back is b/c he is from LA and his name is Ryan Montague and he plays for The Woodlands

[TheProphet]

Really the best runningback in the state this year is in 4A. He is Sergio Kindle and plays both runningback and linebacker for Woodrow Wilson. I am not sure of his numbers but he truly is incredible

i knew i liked people from southlake...SK is far and away the best high school football player in the state of texas, both at RB and LB. As a matter of fact, he will take Aaron Harris's spot at middle linebacker next year after he leaves, you remember the last true freshman LB to play at Texas? Derrick Johnson

[pack0808]

Every one doesnt know who the #1 back is b/c he is from LA and his name is Ryan Montague and he plays for The Woodlands


Right?? LOL I cannot wait until he comes to Abe you have no idea?? Guy is going to be in for a rude *** awakening. Funny that The Woodlands has to count on a freak transfer to consider themselves decent on offense. Embarrassing. Outlaw would never let that happen!!

[gritty52]

I'm biased about this and should be. Folks Dimitri Nance is the real deal!!!!!! 150 tonight in the first half giving him close to 1600 for the year and 26 td's. He has not played into the 4th quarter I think but once this year. LSU was at Irving tonight looking at him and Evans. :D

[TIGER]

McAllen Texas 2007 RB Bradley Stephens 10-14-05 game results



Bradley Stephens Game 1 Stats in 37 / 17 win
Rushing 266 YDS / 25 Carries / 3 TDS


Bradley Stephens game 2 stats in 53 / 35 Loss
Rushing 25 / 167 Yds - 2 TDs
Receiving 4 / 101 Yds - 1 TD
1 KOR / 93 Yds - 1 TD

Bradley Stephens game 3 stats in 57 / 27 Win
7 Carries / 230 Yds (32 yds per carry)
5 Touchdowns
**Note: Only played 1.5 quarters.

Bradley Stephens game 4 stats in 34 / 23 Win
Rushing 346 yds / 26 carries- 3 TDS
1 70 yd TD Punt Return called back

Bradley Stephens game 5 stats in 35 / 14 Win
Stephens 200+ yds at the half.
Game 19 carries for 262 yds 3 TDs
4 receptions for 30+ yds 1 TD
1 40 yd TD called back
**Pulled out of the game at the 6 minute mark of the 3rd Qtr.


Bradley Stephens game 6 stats in 48 / 27 loss
Rushing 229 yds / 26 carries 4 TD's


Bradley Stephens game 7 stats in 33 / 17 Win
Rushing 311yds / 27 carries 5 TD's


Bradley Stephens Season Stats 6.5 games
1811 yds / 155 carries 11.68 YPC Average
28 TDs
150 + Yds Receiving

I think this says it all!

[BigArab]

McAllen Texas 2007 RB Bradley Stephens 10-14-05 game results



Bradley Stephens Game 1 Stats in 37 / 17 win
Rushing 266 YDS / 25 Carries / 3 TDS


Bradley Stephens game 2 stats in 53 / 35 Loss
Rushing 25 / 167 Yds - 2 TDs
Receiving 4 / 101 Yds - 1 TD
1 KOR / 93 Yds - 1 TD

Bradley Stephens game 3 stats in 57 / 27 Win
7 Carries / 230 Yds (32 yds per carry)
5 Touchdowns
**Note: Only played 1.5 quarters.

Bradley Stephens game 4 stats in 34 / 23 Win
Rushing 346 yds / 26 carries- 3 TDS
1 70 yd TD Punt Return called back

Bradley Stephens game 5 stats in 35 / 14 Win
Stephens 200+ yds at the half.
Game 19 carries for 262 yds 3 TDs
4 receptions for 30+ yds 1 TD
1 40 yd TD called back
**Pulled out of the game at the 6 minute mark of the 3rd Qtr.


Bradley Stephens game 6 stats in 48 / 27 loss
Rushing 229 yds / 26 carries 4 TD's


Bradley Stephens game 7 stats in 33 / 17 Win
Rushing 311yds / 27 carries 5 TD's


Bradley Stephens Season Stats 6.5 games
1811 yds / 155 carries 11.68 YPC Average
28 TDs
150 + Yds Receiving

I think this says it all!

Against who, though? Laredo teams?

[Gooseisland10]

Trojans, you really do not know what you are talking about. There is a reason why Moody is the best in the state-- size, strength, speed, and footwork. What Moody does is amazing seeing that he is the only Coppell threat on offense. If you look at Nance you have to first see his offensive line. When Nance gets the ball he doesn't have to worry about defensive lineman he has to worry about the occasional lineback and a defensive back... give me a break. Moody is the best.

[TrojanHorse03]

Goosieland...strength, speed, footwork where have those been this yr. I feel like I got ripped off watching Moody. Top back in the nation my ***. Laderrick Handy and Dimitri Nance strength, speed, and footwork sound more appropriate.

[Gooseisland10]

Look at Moody's line then look at Nances and that other no namer and then please talk. No wants to hear like all these coments about how the running backs from your school are the best when there is a reason they aren't being recruited like they are the best. Nance is good don't get me wrong but part of that is his offensive line which is a big reason of why he gets his yards. And you ask as to where his speed, strength and footwork are? Again I say watch his highlight films then repost.

[TrojanHorse03]

Yeah... :confused: check out Nance's their better, sorry...don't know what to tell you.

[TrojanHorse03]

I hope you haven't busted a blood vessel or are out of breath or anything I guess....

[KLH75287]

How does ET continually have huge Samoan kids on their line. No knock on Nance, but his line is "All World". If McGee had that line, it wouldn't be fair. Of course, that could be said for several other backs as well.

GO PACK IN '05

[Evil47]

Bradley plays against Rio Grande Valley teams and La Joya was one of the teams that only allowed 200 yards rushing but Juan Martinez got 319 Yards 5 TD's for La Joya so it looks like there is some competition.

[dragonfootballfan]

Goosieland...strength, speed, footwork where have those been this yr. I feel like I got ripped off watching Moody. Top back in the nation my ***. Laderrick Handy and Dimitri Nance strength, speed, and footwork sound more appropriate.
actually Sergio Kindle is the highest rated player in Texas and would be the top rated running back if he was not being recruited at linebacker. He is currently the number 4 player in the country but may be able to make a push up to number one if he continues what he is doing. The kid is just incredible and you can see some of his highlights here after the video is played you can look under "meet Sergio Kindle"

Sergio Kindle Highlight (http://www.insidehighschoolfootball.com/)

[The Great Evaluator]

Dragon Football Fan is right, after seeing Kindle's highlights there is no question he could be as good as Adrian Peterson if he stuck to playing on the offensive side of the ball. He is a man amongst boys!

[ilovefootball]

Michael Goodson is the best RB in Texas. Rivals has him rated number 2. He received offers from USC, Notre Dame, and everyone in between. He is not putting up the numbers this years because he has no talent around him, but he is clearly the best RB

[BigArab]

Dragon Football Fan is right, after seeing Kindle's highlights there is no question he could be as good as Adrian Peterson if he stuck to playing on the offensive side of the ball. He is a man amongst boys!

Put him behind center for the Longhorns...he probably throws better than VY.

As far as Moody goes, I have to agree. That footwork is gonna get his butt broken. Unless you're Barry Sanders, if you try to put those silly dance moves on some linebacker who is not only 4 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than you, but he also runs just as fast, you're in trouble. If he's at UT and he goes up against someone like Justin "The Freak" Warren, he's going to find himself on a stretcher. Sorry...just my opinion. He needs to learn how to use that footwork to keep moving and not get tackled. Sure, he has no line, but come on...he's practicing to lose his knees.

[Butch Fifield]

How does ET continually have huge Samoan kids on their line.

they are Tongans. Euless has one of the biggest Tongan communities outside of Tonga.

Euless is right next to DFW airport. I was told that it started with some Tongans getting jobs with American Airlines. Then, they would fly their families over since they got cheap airfare. Eventually, they had a pretty big community of Tongans..

[Big_Maar]

I know Jamal Charles got a few 400 yard games last year...... I was wondering if anybody has done it this year. :confused:

[Evil47]

Bradley is the top RB in the nation in the class of 2007 and 6 overall.

[KC Tiger06]

Michael Goodson is the best RB in Texas. Rivals has him rated number 2. He received offers from USC, Notre Dame, and everyone in between. He is not putting up the numbers this years because he has no talent around him, but he is clearly the best RB

This is very true. Not to mention the fact he has played well on all aspects of the game be it Offense, Special Teams, and Defense. And like you said too bad they have a thin team to chose from and not the greatest coach. Hopefully the Tigers will pull off a win tonight agianst Klein.

[Gooseisland10]

Put him behind center for the Longhorns...he probably throws better than VY.

As far as Moody goes, I have to agree. That footwork is gonna get his butt broken. Unless you're Barry Sanders, if you try to put those silly dance moves on some linebacker who is not only 4 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than you, but he also runs just as fast, you're in trouble. If he's at UT and he goes up against someone like Justin "The Freak" Warren, he's going to find himself on a stretcher. Sorry...just my opinion. He needs to learn how to use that footwork to keep moving and not get tackled. Sure, he has no line, but come on...he's practicing to lose his knees.
The reason he has to dance he because he has NO BLOCKING. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. And if any of you decide to eventually watch his highlight films you will see that it isn't just footwork he is also running over linebackers and beating people with his speed.

[BigArab]

The reason he has to dance he because he has NO BLOCKING. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. And if any of you decide to eventually watch his highlight films you will see that it isn't just footwork he is also running over linebackers and beating people with his speed.

Like I said, if that's the case, he is getting plenty of practice to get his butt broken.

[stinger]

You are right GOOSEISLAND,, look at Trinity films...see what Nance does AFTER he gets by the line. See how many tackles he breaks, see how many backs he jukes, sidesteps, and outruns. SEE NANCE RUN>>>>RUN RUN RUN> After you get by the line it is different. How is he getting over 10 yards per rush? The line isn't ten yards deep. BUT, you will see linemen, like number 79, ten or more yards downfield still blocking. That can make a difference. He has many many pancake blocks to his credit downfield. ,

[Gooseisland10]

No but beating a DB is different then beating a defensive end or tackle making it easier to get 10 yards a carry.

[myround0]

Against who, though? Laredo teams?


you caught that to Arab...i like how he post his averages and never post the teams this kid played against...i will say they are impressive, but against who third graders...you have to tell the whole story not just the bits that support your claim...

[TIGER]

Hey! I don't think that this kid has to prove anything to anybody. His performance on the field says it all. He has a very weak offensive line and he gets his stats against 9 & even 10 men fronts. Teams spend weeks trying to develop a defensive plan to stop him. He even gets his yards when his team looses and clearly does not have control of the line of scrimmage. Sporting News rated him as the number 1 RB in the nation for 2007. I believe that he has quite a few scholarship offers already. Just deal with the facts and quit trying to always find reasons for doubt. Look at his video and read the stories written about him. This guy is definitely one of the nations best.

http://imageevent.com/mcallentxrb

[TrojanHorse03]

I've already had an opportunity to see Stephens. And he is a talented kid despite his competion and hes gotten better with each year. But like others on this board I do not consider him the best running back right now

[Evil47]

RGV Area isnt the worst the in US....we have alot of NFL Players that came from the Rio Grande Valley and still have more going. We may not have the best of the best but we are very competitive. Robert Salinas only 6 feet 205 pounds and yet he still got a couple sacks in the Texas All Star game at San Antonio. Jamaar Taylor, Ervin Taylor, Detmer Brothers, Rolando Cantu, Robert Garza and many others are in the NFL right now that came from our area. You guys got to quit having your noses in the air and see us as High School teams also. Not to mention Mcallen Memorial is prolly the worst team in its District but with Bradley they average atleast 30 points a game. The South also won the all star game also.

[rowlettoline64]

Sergio is probably the best all around runningback, but no one has mentioned the kid from Rowlett, his name is Andre Pierce, who allready has 1,537 yards and 17 td's. I saw him awhile back and this kid is good!!!

Amen brotha! He's very underrated, even though you wouldn't think he would be considering he's the #1 rusher in DFW..

[BigArab]

In case there is still some doubt.

www.peteysurber.com/VondrellMcGee.wmv

[GTown02]

I havent seen Pierce from Rowlett yet, but I have seen Vondrell McGee; and that kid is amazing... one of the best running backs I have ever seen...

[panther96]

Jared Norton from Cedar Hill is a QB, but plays RB and WR. He had 250 two weeks ago and had a 86 yarder last week. He is very explosive and versitale.

[BigFoot]

You are right GOOSEISLAND,, look at Trinity films...see what Nance does AFTER he gets by the line. See how many tackles he breaks, see how many backs he jukes, sidesteps, and outruns. SEE NANCE RUN>>>>RUN RUN RUN> After you get by the line it is different. How is he getting over 10 yards per rush? The line isn't ten yards deep. BUT, you will see linemen, like number 79, ten or more yards downfield still blocking. That can make a difference. He has many many pancake blocks to his credit downfield. ,
The question in my mind is how many yards could Nance get if he ever played a full game? Against Irving and Evans, he never took the field from the :24 seconds till halftime mark and neither did any first team player on offense or defense. Our second and third team players completed the game and Evans scored one touchdown on our second defense. We never threw a pass and never scored either. But 50-14 (50 before halftime time was the Nance and Handy show) All of it is definitely not the line...sure it is good but they are both smooth.

[TrojanHorse03]

While I'm at it and anyone who's watched Trinity can attest Laderrick Handy could start for 98% of the schools in the state, period!

[Gooseisland10]

Maybe only Grand Prarie in his district... there is a start.

[TrojanHorse03]

Yep, Grand Prarie, MacArthur, SGP, Coppell...

[dragonfootballfan]

Yep, Grand Prarie, MacArthur, SGP, Coppell...
there is no way that he starts for Coppell.

[TrojanHorse03]

LOL, o really.

[TrojanHorse03]

Shoot, Lord Moody himself had trouble keeping his job this year.

[dragonfootballfan]

Shoot, Lord Moody himself had trouble keeping his job this year.
that had nothing to do with his on the field performance. Moody is the best back in that district and Jamaal Evans is the second best. It is not his fault his offensive line is the size of most teams receivers

[TrojanHorse03]

Well that's certainly your opinion Dragonfan. Here's a tip enjoy both of those overrated chumps while you still can, cuz after Nov. 4 their seasons r over.

[TrojanHorse03]

....but then again Lord Moody did have almost 200 yds vs. that mighty dragon defense, o wait.... :rolleyes:

[dragonfootballfan]

Well that's certainly ur opininon Dragonfan. Here's a tip enjoy both of those overated chumps while you still can, cuz after Nov. 4 their seasons r over.
This was not the best teams with good runningbacks thread. This is the best runningbacks thread. Team performance does not matter when discussing someone's individual performance, especially in high school.

[dragonfootballfan]

....but then again Lord Moody did have almost 200 yds vs. that mighty dragon defense, o wait.... :rolleyes:
that has nothing to do with it. Moody is the second best back in the metroplex. When I saw him, not only did he run well but he blocked well, and covered the dragon receivers well at cornerback. It has nothing to do with him running wild all over the dragon defense.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Saw North Shore this past Friday...I like this Junior RB! The kids got good vision....if he continues to build on speed and power, he'll be an elite back!

[TrojanHorse03]

Well then lets go to the individual performances then, shall we....

Emmanuel Moody:

137 carries for 885 yds, 12 rushing TDs, 6.5 ypc
4 catches 49 yds 1 TD. TD per 11 touches.

Jamaal Evans:
195 carries for 1347 yds, 9 rushing TDs, 6.9 ypc.
0 catches, TD per 21 touches.

Laderrick Handy:
58 carries for 672 yds, 12 rushing TDs, 11.5 ypc.
5 catches 183 yds 5 TDs. TD per 3.7 touches!!!!!

Dimitri Nance:
130 carries for 1579 yds, 24 rushing TDs, 12 ypc.
11 catches for 190 yds 1 TD. TD per 6 touches.

Laderrick killz Moody in every category except total rushing yds, yet hes only behind by 213 yds despite 79 less carries :eek: . In the words of the Big Tuna, "You are what you are."

[Haysrebels#1]

Amadeus wauters of hays consolidated (formerly of S.A Madison) has rushed for 900 yards this season averaging 8.3 yards per carry,here are how many TD's he scored per game
1.6
2.0
3.3
4.0
5.3
6.3
7.4
8.4
total:23. and in game 2 he was injured.and he has led hays to an 8-0 season and scored the TD against bastrop to send it to overtime.he may not be known to much of the state but wait till the playoffs. Pflugerville,Lufkin,Longview,Dallas Carter,Abeline,and schertz clemens will have to deal with him

[dragonfootballfan]

Well then lets go to the individual performances then, shall we....

Emmanuel Moody:

137 carries for 885 yds, 12 rushing TDs, 6.5 ypc
4 catches 49 yds 1 TD. TD per 11 touches.

Jamaal Evans:
195 carries for 1347 yds, 9 rushing TDs, 6.9 ypc.
0 catches, TD per 21 touches.

Laderrick Handy:
58 carries for 672 yds, 12 rushing TDs, 11.5 ypc.
5 catches 183 yds 5 TDs. TD per 3.7 touches!!!!!

Dimitri Nance:
130 carries for 1579 yds, 24 rushing TDs, 12 ypc.
11 catches for 190 yds 1 TD. TD per 6 touches.

Laderrick killz Moody in every category except total rushing yds, yet hes only behind by 213 yds despite 79 less carries :eek: . In the words of the Big Tuna, "You are what you are."
He is a product of his big line. If Moody were running behind that line and in that system he would have more yards too. The stats do not tell the full story. Moody is the only weapon in his offense and everybody knows it. For Trinity you have Nance and Handy and that awesome line. Trinity's left side of the line probably weighs as much as Coppell's entire line. Those stats are great, but he is not getting hit five yards in the backfield on every carry like Moody is.

[Gooseisland10]

TrojanHorse watch Moody's highlight film please then repost.

[dragonfootballfan]

TrojanHorse watch Moody's highlight film please then repost.
it won't matter. You cannot change a homer.

[TrojanHorse03]

Actually seeing as Coach Lineweaver actually is the running backs coach, and Moody has a propensity for fumbles and dancing way too much as opposed to hitting the hole and getting what yards he can, he probably would be in Coaches doghouse more than the endzone, trust me on that one. But if its any counsulation even behind Dimitri and Laderrick, he could still have the second half too himself :D

[TrojanHorse03]

yeah, yeah, yeah Goosieland I saw the Carroll game. But could you tell me something did he even play vs. Trinity, just wondering....

[dragonfootballfan]

Actually seeing as Coach Lineweaver actually is the running backs coach, and Moody has a propensity for fumbles and dancing way too much as opposed to hitting the hole and getting what yards he can, he probably would be in Coaches doghouse more than the endzone, trust me on that one. But if its any counsulation even behind Dimitri and Laderrick, he could still have the second half too himself :D
Handy would not start for most teams in your district. He would not start in Irving, Coppell, or Nimitz. Nance would not start for Irving or Coppell and probably would not start Nimitz.

Moody would not dance so much if there weren't people in the holes that he was supposed to hit.

[BigFoot]

Handy would not start for most teams in your district. He would not start in Irving, Coppell, or Nimitz. Nance would not start for Irving or Coppell and probably would not start Nimitz.

Moody would not dance so much if there weren't people in the holes that he was supposed to hit.


This is an amazing post...I am so happy he wouldn't start for these teams because we beat all of them with Nance. AND he didn't even have to play more than 2 quarters in any of them.

[TrojanHorse03]

Why the disagreement, huh. Jamaal, and the other guys r more than welcome to play in the second half of the rest of our games. Shoot, its not like the got anything better to do.

[TrojanHorse03]

Yeah these guys have probably never even seen a Trinity game and realize the full package they both bring to the table, it just so happens that we have the best line in the state to go with the state's best backfield. I mean running the football behind a good offensive line is nothing new for Trinity, but having not 1 but 2 backs of this caliber honestly is.

[dragonfootballfan]

Yeah these guys have probably never even seen a Trinity game and realize the full package they both bring to the table, it just so happens that we have the best line in the state to go with the state's best backfield. I mean running the football behind a good offensive line is nothing new for Trinity, but having not 1 but 2 backs of this caliber honestly is.
You will honestly tell me that you would rather have either one of your runningbacks instead of Sergio Kindle. That is just ludicrous. I can see that there is an argument over Moody, but you cannot argue with Kindle. He is far and a way not only the best runningback and best linebacker, but also the best player in Texas this year.

[BigFoot]

You will honestly tell me that you would rather have either one of your runningbacks instead of Sergio Kindle. That is just ludicrous. I can see that there is an argument over Moody, but you cannot argue with Kindle. He is far and a way not only the best runningback and best linebacker, but also the best player in Texas this year.
Excuse me I read this again never saw Kindle mentioned. I commented only on the teams you mentioned...Irving, Coppell and Nimitz all of which we beaten handily. AND we held Moody to 48 yards. I don't know what our first team held Evans to in the first half because the second half was all 2nd, 3rd team defense.

[TrojanHorse03]

C now thats a more reasonable argument. If I most say this is a very good year for running backs but then again thats every yr. in texas. My beef simply came from the fact that if I said Dimitri or Laderrick as opposed to Vondrell, Moody, or Evans it had to be homecooking. As for ur question on my team much like the University of Texas Sergio's time would be focused on being the next Derrick Johnson.

[TrojanHorse03]

Yeah Jamaal was pretty corralled too and his line is significantly bigger than Moody's. Not to mention he had Tennell to distract some defenders for the 1st half, but shutdown none the less vs. the first and surprsing the second team. He didnt score to late in the 4th quarter.

[dragonfootballfan]

Excuse me I read this again never saw Kindle mentioned. I commented only on the teams you mentioned...Irving, Coppell and Nimitz all of which we beaten handily. AND we held Moody to 48 yards. I don't know what our first team held Evans to in the first half because the second half was all 2nd, 3rd team defense.
I mentioned Kindle earlier in the thread. I realized that there was no way for me to convince you and your trojan friends that moody was better than your two backs and I hope that you realize that you are not going to change my mind with moody.

[TrojanHorse03]

thats completely fair Moody certainly has plenty of potential to be the stud colleges believe he can be on the next level.

[dragonfootballfan]

thats completely fair Moody certainly has plenty of potential to be the stud colleges believe he can be on the next level.
yes and Nance and Handy are not too shabby either. This year though I think that Kindle has to be the no-brainer choice.

[Gooseisland10]

You basically just proved my arguement that Moody A) doesn't have a line and B) is the only offensive threat for Coppell. There is a reason Moody is ranked higher then Nance because PROFFESIONAL SCOUTS, that get payed, watch them play and then rank.

[TrojanHorse03]

Actually I didn't. Let's simply put it like this its your opininon as well as the opininon of many that Moody and Kindle are the state's best backs. I as well as others simply just don't share that opininon and we can leave it at that.

[BigArab]

Yeah these guys have probably never even seen a Trinity game and realize the full package they both bring to the table, it just so happens that we have the best line in the state to go with the state's best backfield. I mean running the football behind a good offensive line is nothing new for Trinity, but having not 1 but 2 backs of this caliber honestly is.

Once again...fan-proclaimed best backfield. Go read any publication and you'll find out quick which school they believe has the best tandem.

There is a reason Nance and Handy aren't getting heavily recruited...I'm wondering what it is....

[BigArab]

and once again...if there is still doubt

www.peteysurber.com/VondrellMcGee.wmv

[dragonfootballfan]

and once again...if there is still doubt

www.peteysurber.com/VondrellMcGee.wmv
Arab, I would like to ask you the same question that I asked them. Would you rather have Sergio Kindle on your team or Vondrell Mcgee?

[TrojanHorse03]

Big Arab how about u do me a favor and name me those publications as well as quote then for me, besides the Longview Journal of course. You dont have to look further than this site than to find praise for Dimitri Nance, Laderrick Handy, and Trevor Vittatoe as the state's #1 backfield.

[JoeC]

Arab, I would like to ask you the same question that I asked them. Would you rather have Sergio Kindle on your team or Vondrell Mcgee?

Man, I have got to see this Sergio Kindle, he must be really, really, really good. . . Seriously, I have never seen this young man (Kindle); on the other hand, I have seen Vondrell McGee and what he can do. If Sergio Kindle is better, "whew" . . . . .

[dragonfootballfan]

Man, I have got to see this Sergio Kindle, he must be really, really, really good. . . Seriously, I have never seen this young man (Kindle); on the other hand, I have seen Vondrell McGee and what he can do. If Sergio Kindle is better, "whew" . . . . .
he is really good. I posted a highlight clip in one of my earlier posts in this thread. I have seen Vondrell McGee's highlights and he is incredible as well. Sergio just looks like a man amongst boys on a team where he is the only option they have.

[SLCDad]

Why aren't any of the Trinity backs considered top college prospects?

Rivals gives Nance 2 stars (out of five) and none of the other guys even even make any list. Moody, McGee, Evans, Shankle, Goodson, Kindle, etc. all rank near the top nationally and many other Texas backs rank above Nance.

I know the argument could me made that Trinity's backfield is great at the high school level but are not great for the college game. However, I think the OL is probably the key factor here. The backs are good by themselves, but behind the Trinity OL the running game is great.

[bugw09]

First and foremost I would like to say that of the running backs being mentioned I have seen Jamaal Evans, Emmanuel Moody and Dimitri Nance play.

For any of you to say that Dimitri Nance should not be considered one of the, if not the best RB merely because he is not rated high by rivals or whatever other recruiting site is ludicrous. Think about how many running backs there are in the state, their rankings are never going to be even close to accurate.

Maybe why he isn't rated high is because last year he was the second option for Trinity and really was about half as good as he is this year. Also, most recruiters know any RB prospect from Trinity is usually over-hyped because of their consistently good OL. That being said, this is Trinity's worst OL in the last 5 years, clearly not the best in the state, maybe the biggest but not the best.

95% of the people in this thread are homers. None of you have actually seen Dimitri. I have seen Jamaal, Dimitri and Emmanuel and Dimitri is the best RB. He is not the fastest, Emmanuel is faster, and he is not the biggest (Jamaal can run over just about anybody) but when it comes to the more important intangibles like vision, quickness, agility and heart, Dimitri is in the favor.

And I hate to tell you fellow Trinity mate but Laderrick is good but would not start at Coppell because Emmanuel's uncle would throw a fit. He wouldn't start at Irving because everyone wants to see Jamaal break Tyson Thompson's record. But he would start at every other school in the district and most other districts including Nimitz, David Watkins is good but not that good.

Dimitri's stats are unreal. Not that stats mean anything, haha. But just take a look at the stats for the guys that were mentioned.

Andre Pierce, Rowlett 205 carries 1666 yards 20 TD's 8.1 yards a carry

Dimitri Nance, Euless Trinity 130 carries 1579 yards 24 TD's 12.2 yards a carry those are his stats while only playin in one 4th quarter and two 3rd quarters, amazing

Jamaal Evans, Irving 195 carries 1347 yards 9 TD’s 6.9 yards a carry

Emmanuel Moody, Coppell 137 carries 885 yards 12 TD’s 6.5 yards a carry

LaDerrick Handy, Euless Trinity 58 carries 672 yards 12 TD’s 11.6 yards a carry

I guarantee you Dimitri would average more than 6.5 yards a carry at Coppell. Emmanuel may be a better College back but that’s not the topic, its high school.

Oh and I'm excited to watch to see these other two guys Sergio and Vondrell because I trust that they are good. I had never heard of Vondrell but I've been hearing little bits and pieces about the greatness that is Sergio, anyone have a link for his video?

[gritty52]

Bug excellent piece on Nance. I've followed Trinity football since I moved here in 89. These kids that I knew as snotty nosed kids are now excellent athletes. One of the major reasons they are not being recruited heavily is they only attended 1 of the camps or combines and most of these other kids went to many. Don't know why!!!! LSU scouts along with Tulane and UTEP have been to several of our home games. I saw them because they sit in the booth right behind my season seats. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but Moody didn't show me much the last two 2 years, and we put the stop on Evans. :D

[YuccaRoot]

A&M Consolidated's Junior RB, Daniel Palmer, is among the elite.

[SLCDad]

. . . . One of the major reasons they are not being recruited heavily is they only attended 1 of the camps or combines and most of these other kids went to many. Don't know why!!!! LSU scouts along with Tulane and UTEP have been to several of our home games. I saw them because they sit in the booth right behind my season seats. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but Moody didn't show me much the last two 2 years, and we put the stop on Evans. :DAnother point of view is that the college scouts know exactly what they are doing. Trinity's backs are good, but not great. The OL would be the biggest factor in Trinity's rushing success and stats. You trash Moody yet he is arguably the #1 back in Texas according to the scouts (who are the professionals in evaluating talent).

Just wondering which opinion to believe?

[Gooseisland10]

Whoever said Nance was the seconed option last year, who was the first? Not Etaki or whatever his name was. He was the main point of the offense last and is this year. And you think he hasn't got any attention? Getting to the semis in the playoffs gives you A LOT of attention! I believe Moody has only attended one camp this summer. Again for the 100th time I mention Trinty's OL... will someone please, with a straight face, tell me the OL has nothing to do with Nances yards. Yes, Nance is a good back, but not a great one like Sir Moody IV. And who was ever talking about his Uncle earlier I have personally never seen him at a practice and I doubt Coach Fuller would let any parent/uncle persuade him who is going to start, he has benched Moody once this season. Also, I have seen all backs in 6-5a play mulitiple times and I would think Nance would probably be the 4th best back in the district behind Moody, Evans, and Watkins.

[dragonfootballfan]

Another point of view is that the college scouts know exactly what they are doing. Trinity's backs are good, but not great. The OL would be the biggest factor in Trinity's rushing success and stats. You trash Moody yet he is arguably the #1 back in Texas according to the scouts (who are the professionals in evaluating talent).

Just wondering which opinion to believe?
Kindle is better than all of them. If I had to rate the metroplex backs this is the order that I would use.

1. Sergio Kindle
2. Emmanuel Moody
3. Vondrell McGee ( I know that he is east texas, but he is in a DFW district)
4. Derke Robinson
5. Jamaal Evans
6. Mon Williams
7. Dimitri Nance

[gritty52]

Goose ! What freaking turnip green truck have you fallen off!!!!! I believe you are trying to say this junk to get folks going. I believe there's a couple of others on here that think you are the "most not knowing anything about football @#$%^* on this thread". My Lord ! Moody,Watkins, Evans can't carry Nance's jock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We'll see in the end! If you don't like Trinity and as I can tell most of you don't do us A FAVOR and keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.

[dragonfootballfan]

do us A FAVOR and keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
why don't you do the same. Nance is far from the best back in the state and the area

[gritty52]

SLC DAD AND DRAGON WHOEVER if things workout you will get a chance to see Nance. Also I work in Southlake and with a couple of players moms and I know and hear what happens with the lizards!!!!!!! Also if these scouts are professional who said they were one of you mightier than thou Southlake folks???????????

[dragonfootballfan]

SLC DAD AND DRAGON WHOEVER if things workout you will get a chance to see Nance. Also I work in Southlake and with a couple of players moms and I know and hear what happens with the lizards!!!!!!! Also if these scouts are professional who said they were one of you mightier than thou Southlake folks???????????
I do not understand this post. We will be able to see Nance and you will be able to see another first round exit

[gritty52]

Must of hit a nerve there dragonfan. You folks are living history!!! I wasn't talking to you but if you feel this way you are one of him. Have you seen Nance play??

[dragonfootballfan]

Must of hit a nerve there dragonfan. You folks are living history!!! I wasn't talking to you but if you feel this way you are one of him. Have you seen Nance play??
I am going to quote you

SLC DAD AND DRAGON WHOEVER if things workout you will get a chance to see Nance. Also I work in Southlake and with a couple of players moms and I know and hear what happens with the lizards!!!!!!! Also if these scouts are professional who said they were one of you mightier than thou Southlake folks???????????

This was in response to one of my posts. I assumed that DRAGON WHOEVER was me. I think anyone else would feel the same way as well.

I have not seen Nance play, but I have seen his highlight footage as well as all of the other backs that I listed.

[Gooseisland10]

This post is about best RB not best team. Please go back to Useless and bow down to the great Dimitri "two star" Nance. I love you -Gooseisland.

[TexasHSfootball KIng]

Vondell Mcgee..hands down

[JoeC]

95% of the people in this thread are homers. None of you have actually seen Dimitri. I have seen Jamaal, Dimitri and Emmanuel and Dimitri is the best RB. He is not the fastest, Emmanuel is faster, and he is not the biggest (Jamaal can run over just about anybody) but when it comes to the more important intangibles like vision, quickness, agility and heart, Dimitri is in the favor.

Oh and I'm excited to watch to see these other two guys Sergio and Vondrell because I trust that they are good. I had never heard of Vondrell but I've been hearing little bits and pieces about the greatness that is Sergio, anyone have a link for his video?

Yeah, I guess you're right, I'm a homer . . . So you've never heard of Vondrell McGee, hum . . . Well speaking as a homer, "this young man is as good as they come; maybe not the best, but very good indeed." But don't take my word for it . . . I tell you what, how about this as the litmus test - Vondrell has already verbally committed to the Texas Longhorns and is heavily recruited by many others. Last I heard they (TL) were ranked Number 1 in the nation (BCS). I can only guess that they know a little something about talent recognition. How does the others measure up to this litmus test? Can someone tell me by whom has these other backs been recruited? And hear me clearly on this one - "this is not a stab at Nance, I have never seen the young man perform - but without a doubt, if Vondrell ran behind a 350 pound line, I can promise you he'd average about 25 to 30 yards per carry if they (O-Line) were any good at all."

[Evil47]

Still got my money on Juan Martinez......this dude got speed and alot of power :cool:

[TIGER]

2007 RB Bradley Stephens I believe is leading the State 5A in rushing with 1800+ yds / 155 carries and 27 TDs. This was all done within 6.5 games and he is averaging 11.6 yds per carry. He has a small offensive line and every game he is going up against 9 man fronts with a dedicated spy rover. He may be playing in South Texas but this kid is being recruited across the nation with several Big 12 offers already issued before his season even began.

[bugw09]

I guess many of you saw my long post and decided to read hardly any of it and just see that I mentioned Nance is one of the best. If you had read it, you would know that all of you overrate Trinity's OL.

I also said that just because RIVALS says something doesn't mean it's true.There site is so flawed and yet people still shell over their money to receive their flawed statistics.

David Watkins, Emmanuel Moody, and Jamaal Evans are good running backs but you can't say they are better based on a 'but if' factor. "but if they had trinity's line they'd all rush for 400 yards a game" NO! The fact is if anyone of those RB's were at Trinity you would call them a scrub because they played behind Trinity's OL. His good, but not great, OL merely helps him, they are just big people, u wonder why none of the OL go anywhere to play in college(minus Ofa Mohetau)?

If Nance is able to keep his grades up I guarantee you he goes to a big DI school. LSU, UT, UTEP, and MIZZOU are all after him. Wow, all those schools after a 2 star, they must be ********!

And yes Dimitri was the second option last year behind Akuila Eteaki for 90% of the games, you can't say he wasn't when you saw one or two games at Texas Stadium,crap filter.

Vondrell and Sergio very well could be light years ahead of Dimitri because I haven't seen them play so don't try to argue with me. All I am saying is that Dimitri is atleast the best back in his district.

OH and SOUTHLAKE PEOPLE! You never answered my question. Can you be a fan of Southlake or even drive through without the cool sticker that puts you amongst the 'ELITE'?

[dragonfootballfan]

I guess many of you saw my long post and decided to read hardly any of it and just see that I mentioned Nance is one of the best. If you had read it, you would know that all of you overrate Trinity's OL.

I also said that just because RIVALS says something doesn't mean it's true.There site is so flawed and yet people still shell over their money to receive their flawed statistics.

David Watkins, Emmanuel Moody, and Jamaal Evans are good running backs but you can't say they are better based on a 'but if' factor. "but if they had trinity's line they'd all rush for 400 yards a game" NO! The fact is if anyone of those RB's were at Trinity you would call them a scrub because they played behind Trinity's OL. His good, but not great, OL merely helps him, they are just big people, u wonder why none of the OL go anywhere to play in college(minus Ofa Mohetau)?

If Nance is able to keep his grades up I guarantee you he goes to a big DI school. LSU, UT, UTEP, and MIZZOU are all after him. Wow, all those schools after a 2 star, they must be ********!

And yes Dimitri was the second option last year behind Akuila Eteaki for 90% of the games, you can't say he wasn't when you saw one or two games at Texas Stadium,crap filter.

Vondrell and Sergio very well could be light years ahead of Dimitri because I haven't seen them play so don't try to argue with me. All I am saying is that Dimitri is atleast the best back in his district.

OH and SOUTHLAKE PEOPLE! You never answered my question. Can you be a fan of Southlake or even drive through without the cool sticker that puts you amongst the 'ELITE'?
I answered your question, maybe you need to actually read my posts. If any of those runningbacks played behind Trinity's OL I would still rate them higher than Nance. Dimitri will not go to UT unless that is Tennessee. Texas already has three runningback commits that are better than him.

[bugw09]

I answered your question, maybe you need to actually read my posts. If any of those runningbacks played behind Trinity's OL I would still rate them higher than Nance. Dimitri will not go to UT unless that is Tennessee. Texas already has three runningback commits that are better than him.

But if you are a UT fan, you know that Mack Brown over recruits so that he can pick and choose when it comes down to it. He's the KING of the "sorry but we're gonna have de-offer". Also, I guess I can't really argue with a dumb opinion, I have given every statistic and form of reason for any normal person to believe that Dimitri is the best back in 6-5A. IF you are the best RB shouldn't you be able to make your team better, instead of them making you worse?

[dragonfootballfan]

But if you are a UT fan, you know that Mack Brown over recruits so that he can pick and choose when it comes down to it. He's the KING of the "sorry but we're gonna have de-offer". Also, I guess I can't really argue with a dumb opinion, I have given every statistic and form of reason for any normal person to believe that Dimitri is the best back in 6-5A. IF you are the best RB shouldn't you be able to make your team better, instead of them making you worse?
How are the runningbacks making their teams worse? When has Mack ever pulled someone's offer and especially to get a kid that is worse than three other backs that you have committed? From what I have heard, Nance probably would not qualify academically and may have to go the JUCO route, so why would Mack pull a scholarship for someone that will qualify for someone that may qualify? Statistics don't necessarily make one back better than another. Moody plays behind one of the smallest lines in all of 5A football. Nance plays behind one of the biggest lines in all of 5A football. Does someone have an advantage? Which line would you rather run behind? Which line would you rather have on your team? Which line would you allow you to perform up to your full potential?

[SLCDad]

Goose ! What freaking turnip green truck have you fallen off!!!!! I believe you are trying to say this junk to get folks going. I believe there's a couple of others on here that think you are the "most not knowing anything about football @#$%^* on this thread". My Lord ! Moody,Watkins, Evans can't carry Nance's jock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We'll see in the end! If you don't like Trinity and as I can tell most of you don't do us A FAVOR and keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.Calm down. No need to go crazy here.

No one disputes that Trinity's running game is arguably the best in Texas. The stats speak for themselves. The fact remains, Trinity's running backs are not the most highly recruited (far from it). Many Texas running backs are considered by almost everyone to be better (except for the Trojan homers).

This intends no disrespect to the Trinity football team. They are one of the best teams in Texas and in the USA. Truly an outstanding team. The combination of several good running backs and the incredible OL results in a superb running game.

I believe this is a fair and balanced view.

[gritty52]

Bug and Trojan horse excellent write ups about Nance. Let's just wait until we tangle with some of these folks in the playoffs. Looks like SLC will be first. Maybe they will be the first team this year Nance and Handy play 4 quarters against. Another question about some of these so called elite rb's going to Texas. That Charles kid down there will be the stud for at least 3 years if he don't do the NFL thing. Where are this kids going to play if they don't transfer? Kindle may play linebacker?? Mac Brown has them brainwashed for the time being, but they will transfer somewhere else. These proclaimed experts on this thread have it all figured out. Once again if you don't wear green or purple your a homer! :D :D Longview,SLC,or Lufkin!!

[bugw09]

In case there is still some doubt.

www.peteysurber.com/VondrellMcGee.wmv
he's good, really good, not saying he wouldn't do good but i'd like to see him against a good defense

[dragonfootballfan]

Bug and Trojan horse excellent write ups about Nance. Let's just wait until we tangle with some of these folks in the playoffs. Looks like SLC will be first. Maybe they will be the first team this year Nance and Handy play 4 quarters against. Another question about some of these so called elite rb's going to Texas. That Charles kid down there will be the stud for at least 3 years if he don't do the NFL thing. Where are this kids going to play if they don't transfer? Kindle may play linebacker?? Mac Brown has them brainwashed for the time being, but they will transfer somewhere else. These proclaimed experts on this thread have it all figured out. Once again if you don't wear green or purple your a homer! :D :D Longview,SLC,or Lufkin!!
there is nobody saying that Nance is the best runningback that is not a fan of Trinity. There are many people that wear all different colors that say that other runningbacks and runningbacks that are not on their team are the best. If the only people that say that Nance is the best are fans of his team and all the people saying someone else is better and they are not fans of their teams, then the only reasonable assumption is that the Nance backers are Homers.

[dragonfootballfan]

he's good, really good, not saying he wouldn't do good but i'd like to see him against a good defense
he has played so many better defenses than Nance. All of those highlights were his junior year and some of them came against the Division 1 champions, Tyler Lee, and state semifinalist Lufkin Panthers. If those teams don't have good defenses I don't know who does. What kind of quality defense has Nance run against

[gritty52]

Bug an Trojan horse Okie ST. and Mizzou will be looking this week at Nance. Got that from a pretty good source.Both have offered I heard. :D

[BigArab]

he's good, really good, not saying he wouldn't do good but i'd like to see him against a good defense

Those were against really hard teams. Some of his best games were against his hardest opponents. He's the type of back where if the game is on the line, feed him the ball and watch him do his thing.

[dragonfootballfan]

Those were against really hard teams. Some of his best games were against his hardest opponents. He's the type of back where if the game is on the line, feed him the ball and watch him do his thing.
BigArab, they think if he is not on Trinity then he hasn't played anyone worth anything. I don't think that he saw that those games came against some of the best defenses in the state last year. It just proves how uninformed he really is.

[BigArab]

BigArab, they think if he is not on Trinity then he hasn't played anyone worth anything. I don't think that he saw that those games came against some of the best defenses in the state last year. It just proves how uninformed he really is.

I think two of my favorites were in the Lee game with his 90 yard TD where he shed three tacklers at the line and then the one against Lufkin where he just took the pitch and burned everyone. Those were probably the two hardest defenses last year and he made them look like they were playing 1A ball.

[dragonfootballfan]

I think two of my favorites were in the Lee game with his 90 yard TD where he shed three tacklers at the line and then the one against Lufkin where he just took the pitch and burned everyone. Those were probably the two hardest defenses last year and he made them look like they were playing 1A ball.
the Lufkin one was amazing. They were one of the fastest defense of all time and still could not catch Vondrell. I want to see if they can contain him any better this year. Hopefully we will be able to see.

[BigArab]

the Lufkin one was amazing. They were one of the fastest defense of all time and still could not catch Vondrell. I want to see if they can contain him any better this year. Hopefully we will be able to see.

I wish he would consider somewhere else besides UT....maybe USC if they would offer. He's definitely a Reggie Bush type of back. Give him the ball in any way possible.

[dragonfootballfan]

I wish he would consider somewhere else besides UT....maybe USC if they would offer. He's definitely a Reggie Bush type of back. Give him the ball in any way possible.
I am sure that Texas will get him the ball. Remember when Selvin Young came in as a Freshman and was challenging Benson for playing time until Young's injury. I could see Texas doing this with McGee and Charles. I can also see McGee returning kicks. He will definitely get the ball at Texas. USC's depth chart at running back is incredible and he probably would not see the field until his redshirt Junior year

[RPM]

Bradley Stepehens..even though he playing south texas ball...put this kid behind an offense like Katys and he will produce..he has shown it since his freshmen year has had scouts on him since his freshmen year and has impressed at combines camps as well..

list of Schools showing intrest:

RECRUITING COLLEGES (ALPHABETICAL ORDER)
COLLEGES THAT HAVE EXTENDED OFFERS ARE HIGHLIGHTED:
UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA (CRIMSON TIDE)
UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS (RAZORBACKS)
ARBURN UNIVERSITY (TIGERS)
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA (WILDCATS)
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY (SUN DEVILS)
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY (BYU COUGARS)
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY (LIONS)
COLORADO UNIVERSITY (BUFFALOES)
DUKE UNIVERSITY (BLUE DEVILS-FOOTBALL & TRACK)
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA (GATORS)
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY (SEMINOLES)
GEORGIA TECH (YELLOW JACKETS)
UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON (COUGARS) (OFFER EXTENDED BY COACH ART BRILES)
IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY (CYCLONES) *(OFFER EXTENDED BY COACH DAN MCCARNEY & TONY ALFORD)
UNIVERSITY OF IOWA (HAWKEYES)
KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY (WILDCATS)
LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY LSU (TIGERS)
UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE (CARDINALS)
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI (CANES)
UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN (WOLVERINES)
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI (TIGERS)
UNITED STATES NAVAL ACADEMY (TRACK)
UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA *(HUSKERS)
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY (WILDCATS)
UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME (FIGHTING IRISH)
OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY *(BUCKEYES)
OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY *(COWBOYS)
UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA *(SOONERS)
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY (TIGERS)
PURDUE UNIVERSITY (BOILERMAKERS)
RICE UNIVERSITY (OWLS TRACK)
STANFORD UNIVERSITY (CARDINALS)
STEPHEN F. AUSTIN STATE (TRACK)
UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE (VOLUNTEERS)
TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY (AGGIES) (OFFERED EXTENDED BY COACH DENNIS FRANCHIONE & TOMMERDAHL)
TEXAS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY (TCU HORNED FROGS)
TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY (BOBCATS)
TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY (RED RAIDERS)
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS (UT LONGHORNS)
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS EL PASO (MINERS)
UNIVERSITY OF TULSA (GOLDEN HURRICANE)
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY (COMMODORES)
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA (CALVALIERS)
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (HUSKIES)
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN (BADGERS)

[JoeC]

Ok, I've seen the clips on Emmanuel Moody, Sergio Kindle and Dimitri Nance and I am very impressed with them all. And although I am no expert and worst of all, a homer, it is my opinion that each of these guys are several steps behind Vondrell McGee. Don't get me wrong, they are all very good athletes, but Vondrell is great at his position. Sergio is a very good running back but a great linebacker. As far as Sergio is concerned, he reminds me on the other Longview running back, Chris Ivory . . . Unfortunately I am going to have to agree with others concerning Moody, he does dance a little too much, but is still very good and should not be underestimated - on the other hand, Vondrell needs only one cut and he will leave you in another time zone. It is my opinion that he should change schools (UT) or he will be riding the bench. Nance has very good moves and cuts and is much better than I expected. Warning, if opponents do not respect this young man they will be in for a rude awakening - in my opinion, he is definitely one of the best. In the open field this kid has skills . . . I think the large O-line will lead many to underestimate him and ultimately, at their on demise. But as this homer would say, "Vondrell is not a good nor very good running back, he is a great running back" - - sorry, but this is my opinion.

[SLCDad]

Ok . . . . I am no expert and worst of all, a homer . . . On that point we can all agree. :)

[Gooseisland10]

Moody is already seriously considering going to USC and visited about a month ago and was shown around but a certain guy who couldn't hold Nance's jock named Reggie Bush. And no grades won't keep Nance from going to UT if they really wanted them look at Henry Melton who I doubt broke the 900s on the SAT. I will say this again Moody has to dance around D-Lineman and linebackers because you most likely can't run them over. Nance has to run over/dance around people in the secondary and the occasional llinebacker, there is a huge difference.

[gritty52]

Like the jock strap statement there gooooooosssiiee! That kid from Longview belongs in the SEC. Hate to see him waste his time in this TIRED BIG 12. They would make this exceptional kid better. Moody won't play with the whiny orange for a couple of years. I'm sick of all the people saying Nance isn't nothing without his line. Don't see anything on here about SLC and their QB (I give credit to the WR'S THEY ARE GOOD!!) that make :D him look all world. I'm a homer or gomer and at least I admit it.

[JoeC]

On that point we can all agree. :)

Man (whew), I don't know about you but I feel much better now . . . just knowing the fact that we could agree to agree is a major accomplishment within itself. By the way, what exactly did I say that got your panties in a wad? A couple weeks ago [following the DR game], I gave that QB and WR of yours the highest of praise [and deservedly so]. . . funny that didn't draw any sarcasm. I'm sorry, you must have missed that, or maybe not . . . Let the truth be known, pretty much all of us on this board lack expertise and virtually everyone has exemplified their homer traits (of course -except you) . . . GENERALLY SPEAKING, it hadn't stopped anyone from expressing their opinion. I can't help but think its because I gave praise to Nance; but clearly, that's only conjecture on my part . . . please clarify. What's funny, for some reason I thought we were getting along . . .

[bugw09]

Ok, I've seen the clips on Emmanuel Moody, Sergio Kindle and Dimitri Nance and I am very impressed with them all. And although I am no expert and worst of all, a homer, it is my opinion that each of these guys are several steps behind Vondrell McGee. Don't get me wrong, they are all very good athletes, but Vondrell is great at his position. Sergio is a very good running back but a great linebacker. As far as Sergio is concerned, he reminds me on the other Longview running back, Chris Ivory . . . Unfortunately I am going to have to agree with others concerning Moody, he does dance a little too much, but is still very good and should not be underestimated - on the other hand, Vondrell needs only one cut and he will leave you in another time zone. It is my opinion that he should change schools (UT) or he will be riding the bench. Nance has very good moves and cuts and is much better than I expected. Warning, if opponents do not respect this young man they will be in for a rude awakening - in my opinion, he is definitely one of the best. In the open field this kid has skills . . . I think the large O-line will lead many to underestimate him and ultimately, at their on demise. But as this homer would say, "Vondrell is not a good nor very good running back, he is a great running back" - - sorry, but this is my opinion.


Interesting. Some respect. BTW, Vondrell did look like the best of the three mentioned. This clip of Sergio wasn't very informing but it looked like he was an extreme athlete. Nance might be the worst of these three but like he said please underestimate him, it will be the end of you. MOODY IS OVER RATER CLAP CLAP CLAP, not to say he's not good but hes OVER RATED.

[TrojanHorse03]

I'm done with this thread except to tell Dragonfootballfan he has no business putting an incorrect rumor about Dimitri having to go JUCO on this honorable site. Now you all can proceed to continue flailing around in ignorance.

[BigArab]

Interesting. Some respect. BTW, Vondrell did look like the best of the three mentioned. This clip of Sergio wasn't very informing but it looked like he was an extreme athlete. Nance might be the worst of these three but like he said please underestimate him, it will be the end of you. MOODY IS OVER RATER CLAP CLAP CLAP, not to say he's not good but hes OVER RATED.

I'm sorry...I really agree. If he had played for a better team, the sky would've been the limit. However, his team situation has forced him to form habits that will be detrimental to his health and to his game. It'll take a couple of years in college to break those habits (if ever.)

Go ahead, crucify me.

[myround0]

I'm sorry...I really agree. If he had played for a better team, the sky would've been the limit. However, his team situation has forced him to form habits that will be detrimental to his health and to his game. It'll take a couple of years in college to break those habits (if ever.)

Go ahead, crucify me.

Vondrell can catch as well and how dangerous would he be if he played at Texas Tech...the kid has runs, but if you throw him the ball he can catch it as well, he caught one crucial pass against rockwall and he caught a pass on national T.V. against Tyler Lee...I would love to see Mcgee in a wide open offense, one that would dare defenses to gang up on the line to try to stop the run...It would be awesome...he would not only change the college game, he would change the pro game to a wide open spread offense...the guy is full speed ahead when he makes a cut, that is what separates him from the other guys...And if Texas tech can get a Quarterback who has speed and con run the ball...Tech would be the front runner for a title...

Barry sanders second coming

[dragonfootballfan]

I'm done with this thread except to tell Dragonfootballfan he has no business putting an incorrect rumor about Dimitri having to go JUCO on this honorable site. Now you all can proceed to continue flailing around in ignorance.
I just posted what I read on other sites. They said that he could be one of the best in the state and grades were one of the reasons that he was not getting as much attention as some of the other kids in the state