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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:51 AM
I tried to make sure the scale was present in each image (bottom left corner).
I also tried to make the color-coding of the districts in the same order as the colors of the visible spectrum so it would be easier to tell which district was which. The same colors repeat in each region:

Districts 1, 9, 17, 25 - RED
Districts 2, 10, 18, 26 - ORANGE
Districts 3, 11, 19, 27 - YELLOW
Districts 4, 12, 20, 28 - GREEN
Districts 5, 13, 21, 29 - SKY BLUE
Districts 6, 14, 22, 30 - ROYAL BLUE
Districts 7, 15, 23, 31 - MIDNIGHT BLUE
Districts 8, 16, 24, 32 - MAGENTA

Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex (9 Districts - 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11)

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Greater Houston Area (11 Districts - 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 & 24)

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Greater San Antonio (4 Districts - 26, 27, 28 & 29)

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:52 AM
REGION I

District 1-5A

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District 2-5A

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District 3-5A

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District 4-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:52 AM
District 5-5A

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District 6-5A

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District 7-5A

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District 8-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:53 AM
REGION II

District 9-5A

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District 10-5A

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District 11-5A

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District 12-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:54 AM
District 13-5A

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District 14-5A

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District 15-5A

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District 16-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:56 AM
REGION III

District 17-5A

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District 18-5A

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District 19-5A

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District 20-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:57 AM
District 21-5A

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District 22-5A

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District 23-5A

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District 24-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 04:59 AM
REGION IV

District 25-5A

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District 26-5A

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District 27-5A

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District 28-5A

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WOS87
02-03-2008, 05:00 AM
District 29-5A

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District 30-5A

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District 31-5A

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District 32-5A

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shooter
02-03-2008, 08:32 AM
WOW!

Post of the century Award for that one. That is awesome and must have taken you hours to do. Now can you do 2A for me?

KatyTigerDad0407
02-03-2008, 09:42 AM
SA SW must be a single HS district. Man that is big time travel.

CoveMom
02-03-2008, 09:51 AM
Now look at 29-5A. Why, on God's green earth, did the UIL take ONE school from San Antonio and put it in a district with 7 other schools all along the Rio Grande Valley? Why? Especially a school in an area that is economically disadvantaged unless things have changed drastically in the last 15 years. Sorry, that one escapes me....

CoveMom
02-03-2008, 09:51 AM
SA SW must be a single HS district. Man that is big time travel.

You saw that too? Wasn't there ANY other district that could have taken this school in the SA metro area?????

ruffshod
02-03-2008, 10:43 AM
Okay, WOS87, you're starting to embarass us now.:o:o

Coug78
02-03-2008, 11:58 AM
For District 2 you pretty much have to zoom out as to see the earth's blue glow around it. :D

AE 8008
02-03-2008, 12:49 PM
i just wet myself

The Lone Ranger
02-03-2008, 01:46 PM
WOW!:notworthy

You do almost every team's game-by game history and then the entire geography of 5A. Somebody paid attention in Social Studies...


The only error I saw is that Earl Warren is missing from the big SA map. But they're in the NISD map so it's covered.

And I hope to high heaven that Southwest appeals that placement. While their burgeoning FB program will in all likelihood completely tear up this district (as well as into the area round), the travel will kill their budget. It's like Del Rio in the past...but opposite. The only exception is that Del Rio has no neighbors in 5A whereas South San can't be any more than 5 miles from Southwest.

Southwest should join the Corpus/Judson/rest of SA district and make it a 9 team district. It won't kill the Corpus schools to make 1 more trip to SA--at least not as badly as it will kill Southwest to travel to Laredo and Del Rio.

Hopefully United ISD's appeal for LBJ is successful and they move Soutwest out of that district.

At the very least Southwest should try to get out for everything but football as the Tuesday night travel is going to be killer.

bowiedawgs01
02-03-2008, 04:46 PM
1 mistake in 25-5A

Akins is not in the correct spot. They are actually slightly south of Bowie. Bowie is right on Slaughter Lane, and Akins is south of Slaughter Lane on South First.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/lzppjb/AkinsBowie.jpg

Tigerjag
02-03-2008, 04:58 PM
Awesome job! I think this needs to be on the website here, or on TexasBob.com. Or maybe the UIL!

lonny23
02-03-2008, 05:44 PM
I could give a rip about SA Southwest. What makes them any more special than Del Rio for the last few years? You metro people need to stop whining. They have to travel and need to suck it up.

Just because you live in a heavily populated area does NOT mean you're entitled to NOT traveling. This whining makes me want to puke.

shooter
02-03-2008, 06:04 PM
I could give a rip about SA Southwest. What makes them any more special than Del Rio for the last few years? You metro people need to stop whining. They have to travel and need to suck it up.

Just because you live in a heavily populated area does NOT mean you're entitled to NOT traveling. This whining makes me want to puke.

Lonny that argument holds no water hear, what choice does Del Rio have? What they want the UIL to open up some 5A schools around them? They have to travel; they know they are going to have to travel. It's part of living out there in Del-Rio. No one wakes up on Feb 1st in Del Rio and says “Crap did you see we are going to have to travel for two years!” They know it’s coming because there are no other 5A schools around them. SW has a bunch of 5A schools all around it. Hell South San is basicly in their backyard. Jay is close enough you could spit on it from the top of SW High if the wind is blowing out of the Southwest.

I understand the UIL situation here, sure they could have put SW in with Judson and Corpus and South San. But when you look at it they needed one more high school when several of the Leredo schools did not make the cut. They made it where 27-5A is an 8 teamer and 29-5A is a 8-teamer, pull SW out and you have a 7 and an 8 With 4 teams making the playoffs the UIL wants bigger districts, look they have two 10-teamers now it obvious they want big districts not small. The only time you see 6 or 7 teamers are in situations where there just are not enough schools in the area.

I think the argument Sw will make is every away game in all sports will be 130+ miles when South San's Stadium is a 5 min drive.

WOS87
02-03-2008, 07:34 PM
WOW!:notworthy

The only error I saw is that Earl Warren is missing from the big SA map. But they're in the NISD map so it's covered.

Sorry about that... it should be there now

The Lone Ranger
02-03-2008, 07:35 PM
The UIL did not mandate 10 team districts. They have several 6 team districts, and had a 5 team district for every sport but football last alignment.

One ten team district is because there was no other possibility other than also sending San Angelo out of the Little SWC (or Little Big 12 as I like to think of the new 2-5A). They could have sent them to the Fort Hood area, but instead kept the 10 team district.

The second is because FBISD is being ******** in keeping 2 schools 600 students below the cutoff up in 5A to avoid a little travel. Marshall and Willowridge wouldn't have to go past Bay City in 4A, but instead they keep tiny little schools up in 5A to keep the district together and thus making it gigantic. They need to redraw the boundaries a little so that Marshall and Willowridge are both 5A numbers or else let them drop to compete. I know that Marshall has had a good program but still a 570 student gap between them and the 5A cutoff is riddiculous.

And it makes sense to have smaller districts to avoid crazy travel. 4 out of 7 isn't terrible, plus both of the other SA districts have 9 teams. They should have put Southwest with the other SA schools and CC schools. Instead of 3-4 trips per year in football and 7 trips in other sports, they'd have 1-2 trips in football and 3 in other sports.

The LISD and UISD should have opted all of their schools up if they wanted a district to themselves. Besides Cigarroa all of them are very close to the cutoff. The Eagle Pass and Laredo schools should have talked to one another instead of just guessing that everyone was going to have sense...there should be a 6 team Laredo/EP in 4A and 3 Laredo schools plus Del Rio spread out in 5A.

WOS87
02-03-2008, 07:35 PM
1 mistake in 25-5A

Akins is not in the correct spot. They are actually slightly south of Bowie. Bowie is right on Slaughter Lane, and Akins is south of Slaughter Lane on South First.

And sorry about that one as well... I believe I have it in the right spot now.

OWLS1965
02-03-2008, 09:47 PM
I could give a rip about SA Southwest. What makes them any more special than Del Rio for the last few years? You metro people need to stop whining. They have to travel and need to suck it up.

Just because you live in a heavily populated area does NOT mean you're entitled to NOT traveling. This whining makes me want to puke.

THAT is one of the "Most Awesome and Helpful Texas HS Football" things I have ever seen!!!! THANKS!!!!

KatyTigerDad0407
02-04-2008, 12:16 AM
SA SW can get out and change districts. If they can get their new district to agree to let them out and find a new district to agree to let them in. It is a done deal.

Here is the UIL rule with a cut off date for this option:


February 1-14, 2008 Schools wishing to change districts may do so by contacting the district to which they have been assigned and the district to which they wish to change to ask for a vote. If a unanimous vote is achieved from both districts, have both district chairs call the UIL office by phone and follow with fax notification. The school appealing should fill out the Appeal Form.

The Lone Ranger
02-04-2008, 11:49 PM
There is no way that the CC schools and Vic Memorial agree to add another SA school to their already massive travel budgets.

SW would have to win an appeal to return to San Antonio. But again, they may not even try because this district is a blessing to them in getting a free ride through district, whereas they might even miss out on the playoffs in the Judson district.

JagDad07
02-05-2008, 07:24 AM
I think Southwest ought ot just ride it out and take their championship.

The Lone Ranger
02-05-2008, 11:04 AM
I think that the bigger problem is going to be outside of football. How good are Southwest's other programs?

And the travel is going to be killer in Tuesday/Friday sports--basically once a week they will have a 4+ hour round trip, whereas in 28-5A it would be less than once every two weeks.

Maxthedog
02-05-2008, 11:06 AM
Thanks WOS!!!
I stand in the shadow of your greatness!

LaredoHSFBFan
02-05-2008, 01:33 PM
One of the reasons why Laredo split was that two competing school districts (and of coarse the rapid growth of the state) prematurely forced the LISD schools into 4A status. That being said, single high school districts are almost like single high school towns. The argument that Del Rio has no choice but to travel, well, I guess the same applies to SA SW. They are the odd man out. All the NEISD schools are in 26-5A, the NSISD are in 28-5A and if I'm not mistaken the both Converse schools were kept together in 27-5A. I just think they were unfortunetly the swing school for UIL realignment purposes. I sure hope they stay in 29-5A to see them play at least twice in Laredo the next two years.

Green Dragon
02-05-2008, 03:17 PM
I have to agree that this is one of the best documentary efforts to the state of Texas 5A football references I have seen. Great work!!!!! I really enjoyed looking over the districts and observing the justice or insanity just dealt by the realignment. Please save this for future reference in a sticky oh Forum Masters...

mad_fan
02-05-2008, 04:28 PM
SA SW must be a single HS district. Man that is big time travel.

Do you walk everywhere???
Or do you own a car...:p
That's little time travel...
And...it gives SW a chance at a district title...:)

purple_thunder
02-05-2008, 06:11 PM
SA SW can get out and change districts. If they can get their new district to agree to let them out and find a new district to agree to let them in. It is a done deal.

Here is the UIL rule with a cut off date for this option:


February 1-14, 2008 Schools wishing to change districts may do so by contacting the district to which they have been assigned and the district to which they wish to change to ask for a vote. If a unanimous vote is achieved from both districts, have both district chairs call the UIL office by phone and follow with fax notification. The school appealing should fill out the Appeal Form.Yeah San Marcos is going to appeal heres the link


http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/sports/local_story_033184650.html

The Lone Ranger
02-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Schools don't seem to realize that these appeals are to deal with districts within a classification, not to change a classification.

The time to do that was in October when you could opt up. The LISD and UISD ADs failed to check their schools' paperwork before it was sent in, and the principals obviously weren't on the same page. That's why you have 3 UISD schools in 5A and 1 in 4A and 1 LISD school in 5A and 2 in 4A. The districts should have talked to each other and established that they were going to play everybody up, or else talked to Eagle Pass about forming a 4A district with the 3 LISD schools, LBJ, EP, and EP Winn.

I think that the UIL might bump LB Johnson up and shift Southwest over to the Judson/Corpus district, but that's still not very likely. I'd LOVE to see them trade LBJ out of Martin, but that would never happen.

The only complaint is if you think the number is wrong. One example was SA Lee last year, who got in a whole heap of trouble with some parents when they cut around 400 magnet school kids out of their enrollment so they could play 4A ball. The parents flipped, and the school asked the UIL to reclassify them using the new number, which they did.

San Marcos has a semi-legit complaint, but then the UIL is just going to talk about their travel is easy compared to the West TX schools. I don't agree with this line of thinking--if there is a school convenient to your location, you should be with them, but I highly doubt SM's appeal will be granted.

LPMOM
02-07-2008, 03:57 PM
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
awsome post! THANK YOU very much!!!

WOS87
02-07-2008, 10:27 PM
WOW!

Post of the century Award for that one. That is awesome and must have taken you hours to do. Now can you do 2A for me?

It's already done....

Class 2A Realignment Maps (http://texashsfootball.com/board/thsfpedia/index.php/2008_Realignment:_Class_2A)

WestPlano006
02-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Looks like Abilene will be racking up travel miles.... holy :Censor:

The Lone Ranger
02-13-2008, 11:52 PM
It's actually no worse than had they been in the old 3-5A. Abilene is roughly halfway between the Midland-Odessa area and western Fort Worth (if I'm not mistaken Weatherford is actually closer than Odessa). The travel is the same, except that they don't have Cooper around. They now have 6 away teams instead of 4, but then for many years they had to travel to Big Spring and San Angelo as well.

Abilene really doesn't change. San Angelo Central also doesn't change at all, except they add 4 away teams to their district. However, those 4 are closer than their "district" games of the past ten years, so they won't complain. The only alternative would be to break their tradition and compete in Bell County, something I think they'd rather not do.

Southwest, however, is travelling 3 hours for games when they could be travelling 5 minutes to South San.

Del Rio is just in the middle of nowhere with nowhere to go. I think they should look in to splitting into 2 4A schools and forming a district with Eagle Pass, Uvalde, and Medina Valley. However, their historical problems with the San Felipe/Del Rio divide could prevent that from happening.

There is always a minute chance that Del Rio could even end up with Midland, so they should consider themselves fortunate that their longest trip is 3 hours instead of 5-6.

DRAGON PRIDE
02-19-2008, 03:53 PM
As A parent of a Volleyball player at SW, it is extremely hard for both parents and players on weekday games that are 150 miles away.295a presents a host of problems for both involved. 275a is a little less troublesome. As far as football goes it doesnt matter. The kids want another shot at judson. They don't feel judson beat them. They beat themselves. Either way it goes SW is not the scrub football program it used to be and will be very competitive in any district.

jrp83
03-18-2008, 11:47 PM
One of the reasons why Laredo split was that two competing school districts (and of coarse the rapid growth of the state) prematurely forced the LISD schools into 4A status. That being said, single high school districts are almost like single high school towns. The argument that Del Rio has no choice but to travel, well, I guess the same applies to SA SW. They are the odd man out. All the NEISD schools are in 26-5A, the NSISD are in 28-5A and if I'm not mistaken the both Converse schools were kept together in 27-5A. I just think they were unfortunetly the swing school for UIL realignment purposes. I sure hope they stay in 29-5A to see them play at least twice in Laredo the next two years.

There is only 1 high school in Converse, TX. That would be Judson High School. Wagner HS, which is part of the Judson ISD, is in San Antonio.

Go Rockets!!

Magellan
05-30-2008, 08:00 AM
As A parent of a Volleyball player at SW, it is extremely hard for both parents and players on weekday games that are 150 miles away.295a presents a host of problems for both involved. 275a is a little less troublesome. As far as football goes it doesnt matter. The kids want another shot at judson. They don't feel judson beat them. They beat themselves. Either way it goes SW is not the scrub football program it used to be and will be very competitive in any district.

Regarding football- if you want Judson, win a couple of games and you'll have your shot.
Regarding the travel down to the Valley - did SW ever appeal their placement? We understand that parents can't just take off to go to every game their kid plays in (especially if the kid is a cross-trainer) when the travel requires leaving the area code, but someone always seems to get messed over when it comes to realignment. And of course playoff games will be the worst- as you can't plan months in advance for a playoff game... you have a week for football and 2 days for everything else. :-/

Slotback
06-18-2008, 10:32 PM
WOS87, this is impressive.

DragonFan0316
06-27-2008, 04:22 PM
WOS87 - You are the MAN!! Thank You.:):notworthy:)

Memorial76
07-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Amazing! This should be kept as one of the links on the front page!

zach0321
07-08-2008, 10:23 AM
I could give a rip about SA Southwest. What makes them any more special than Del Rio for the last few years? You metro people need to stop whining. They have to travel and need to suck it up.

Just because you live in a heavily populated area does NOT mean you're entitled to NOT traveling. This whining makes me want to puke.

Amen to that!! I totaly agree!