Who will go deeper in the playoffs?????

[LP_4_LIFE]

lufkinorlongview

[Redneckn]

Lufkin.

[toonman]

I guess that is what the inevitable Longview vs Lufkin match up will tell us. I think history will continue to repeat itself and Lufkin goes deeper in the playoffs.

[GTown02]

Longview!

[VB Pack Fan]

While I,m a true panther fan, I have some issues with the offense. We are inconsisant at times .Penalties, fumbles and the like. This offense is very young and I don,t think they have gel like I would have them.The play calling leaves me asking why at times. If we go deep, the defense will carry us there.2005 this offense should be problems for whomever we play.

[Red Raiders]

I am serious people... I have to study alot more with the rosters for Lufkin vs Longview. Def. either one of them will go all the way to State if Southlake Carroll not in that Division. I encourage Southlake Carroll to be in Division 1 with Euless Trinity because everyone ARGUES who has the best offense.

[CoveFan05]

Whoever wins the round of 16 game

[TrojanHorse03]

Lufkin

[Big_Maar]

LUFKIN WINS!!!!!!!!!

[Ladypack34]

Hopefully Lufkin....but hey who knows...Longview is a respectable team...and we dont need to under-rate them...

[Xfballphenome05]

i think longview would win that macthup...Better offense and a defense that is respectable

[Primetime536]

longview, Lufkin goes down 1st round to THE HEIGHTS KNIGHTS

[c-lisle]

While I,m a true panther fan, I have some issues with the offense. We are inconsisant at times .Penalties, fumbles and the like. This offense is very young and I don,t think they have gel like I would have them.The play calling leaves me asking why at times. If we go deep, the defense will carry us there.2005 this offense should be problems for whomever we play.


It will be a great game but I agree with you the young offense of LP will be their demise. Longview will be up so big for this one and alot of the great players from last year's heartbreaker will be back. If SLC goes D1 I think the finalist from our side of the bracket will come from this game.

[pack0808]

I was worried about Lufkin's offense in this game if it happened but then Rockwall scored 30 plus on them and it made me feel a LOT better. This horrible Lufkin offense is only averaging 38 points a game. ;) Yeah they are inconsistent but they have the talent to get the job done. The wr's are some of the best in the state the qb is very good at times and will only get better and the o-line is just starting to come together. The running game has a lot of potential with Turner, Claybon, Kibble, and mixing it up with Shankle!!

It would be a great game if it happened but that is a long way off.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Lufkin. I wouldn't be surprised if CUJO goes farther than Longview.

[c-lisle]

[QUOTE=pack0808]Rockwall scored 30 plus on them and it made me feel a LOT better. QUOTE]

I think we will all see that this game was an abberation. Longview's D has held teams that are as good and even better than Rockwall to minimal yards. I wouldn't make a general statement like that based on the results of one game. You might want to consider that excluding Rockwall teams were averaging 139 yds/game offense against us.

[c-lisle]

Lufkin. I wouldn't be surprised if CUJO goes farther than Longview.

Me neither....but I doubt that happens.

[bubbacoach]

I think whoever wins the most playoff games will go the farthest in the playoffs. And I will bet anyone on this site that I am right.

[JoeC]

You've got to admit that when LP was in our old E-Texas district they had more formidable foes on a consistent weekly basis. When I saw them blowing out opponents I must admit I was a bit worried until they scored 27 against Nacogdoches and comparatively, Kilgore scores 35 on Nacogdoches. Then to bring further clarification, Marshall holds Kilgore to 3 points. To say the least - you must be willing to admit that LP's offense really does look suspect. We all know that you're only as strong as your competition. My concern is that playing against such lack luster competition it will eventually water down LP's prowess. Before that happens, I would hope by some miracle of fate that the old district would be brought back together. Obviously, LP has a great defense, but objectively speaking, you must admit that the offense is not comparable to last year's team - possibly giving Longview's offense more opportunities. Throw in Longview's experience and strength at skill positions and Lufkin will be hard pressed to repeat last year's feat. First things first, we must first get to the big dance and there are other formidable foes not so enthusiastic on bringing this so-called dream match up to fruition. But if it did happen, I guess I'd have to go with Longview ending the streak 31-21 . . . . oh the irony, wasn't that last year's score.

[pack0808]

You've got to admit that when LP was in our old E-Texas district they had more formidable foes on a consistent weekly basis. When I saw them blowing out opponents I must admit I was a bit worried until they scored 27 against Nacogdoches and comparatively, Kilgore scores 35 on Nacogdoches. Then to bring further clarification, Marshall holds Kilgore to 3 points. To say the least - you must be willing to admit that LP's offense really does look suspect. We all know that you're only as strong as your competition. My concern is that playing against such lack luster competition it will eventually water down LP's prowess. Before that happens, I would hope by some miracle of fate that the old district would be brought back together. Obviously, LP has a great defense, but objectively speaking, you must admit that the offense is not comparable to last year's team - possibly giving Longview's offense more opportunities. Throw in Longview's experience and strength at skill positions and Lufkin will be hard pressed to repeat last year's feat. First things first, we must first get to the big dance and there are other formidable foes not so enthusiastic on bringing this so-called dream match up to fruition. But if it did happen, I guess I'd have to go with Longview ending the streak 31-21 . . . . oh the irony, wasn't that last year's score.


Yeah that easy schedule really hurt Lufkin in the playoffs last year!! ;) The Nac game was by far the worst game the offense had played all year. It was early and they are getting better with each game like i predicted they would.

[SFAlobo]

So since LP got that exception for a "sub par" game....why cant Longview?

[Favpack]

You've got to admit that when LP was in our old E-Texas district they had more formidable foes on a consistent weekly basis. When I saw them blowing out opponents I must admit I was a bit worried until they scored 27 against Nacogdoches and comparatively, Kilgore scores 35 on Nacogdoches. Then to bring further clarification, Marshall holds Kilgore to 3 points. To say the least - you must be willing to admit that LP's offense really does look suspect. We all know that you're only as strong as your competition. My concern is that playing against such lack luster competition it will eventually water down LP's prowess. Before that happens, I would hope by some miracle of fate that the old district would be brought back together. Obviously, LP has a great defense, but objectively speaking, you must admit that the offense is not comparable to last year's team - possibly giving Longview's offense more opportunities. Throw in Longview's experience and strength at skill positions and Lufkin will be hard pressed to repeat last year's feat. First things first, we must first get to the big dance and there are other formidable foes not so enthusiastic on bringing this so-called dream match up to fruition. But if it did happen, I guess I'd have to go with Longview ending the streak 31-21 . . . . oh the irony, wasn't that last year's score.

You absolutely kill me JoeC. Now go and build a rational explanation through Longview's last second, last gasp victory over Rockwall why Longview is a second tier team and will probably be exposed as a fraud any second now. Run along and build that case Joe --- I'll wait patiently.......

Gimmee a break -- we've debated these issues to death. Notice to forum - you cannot build a case based on one game/one week/one team -- three cheers to all who comprehend that and have moved on to more productive things in life.

I'd rather discuss the top songs of all time than dwell on these inane, random comparisons that cement your team's legendary status and suggest everyone else is "suspect" or "watered down", etc.

The ball is oblong for a reason - so it can bounce funny.

[SFAlobo]

[QUOTE=Favpack]You absolutely kill me JoeC. Now go and build a rational explanation through Longview's last second, last gasp victory over Rockwall why Longview is a second tier team and will probably be exposed as a fraud any second now. Run along and build that case Joe --- I'll wait patiently.......

Gimmee a break -- we've debated these issues to death. Notice to forum - you cannot build a case based on one game/one week/one team -- three cheers to all who comprehend that and have moved on to more productive things in life.

QUOTE]

It seems you have completely contridicted yourself with those two statements!!! In the same post no less. In your excitement, did you forget what you typed?... :confused:

[dragonfly]

I think Lufkin will be able to contain the running game of Longview and there's no way that Longview will be able to pass against them. I expect that Lufkin will be able to play man in the secondary and load up on the run. Now Longview should be able to play the run well too, but they do not have Lufkin's secondary which will be their demise. I think Lufkin will be able to throw on them and will win the game by 2 touchdowns.

[TrojanHorse03]

Honestly I think the success that opposing offense such as Longview and Slc had against Lufkin in the postseason last yr is the exclusive reason why the Pack has switched to a much more aggressive scheme.

[stevefoxsc]

like ive said a dream match right here to me long view will hand it to lufkin

[c-lisle]

I think Lufkin will be able to contain the running game of Longview and there's no way that Longview will be able to pass against them. I expect that Lufkin will be able to play man in the secondary and load up on the run. Now Longview should be able to play the run well too, but they do not have Lufkin's secondary which will be their demise. I think Lufkin will be able to throw on them and will win the game by 2 touchdowns.


Our secondary can hold their own. They don't have to be great b/c Claybon will running for his life the whole game. LP's running game is suspect and we will be blitzing them like crazy. Just as long as we keep the big pass plays to a minimum Lview should win by two touchdowns.

LOL to LP containing Lview's run game. We will get all we want and then some running the ball. And what you don't know Dragonfly is that Lview has made great strides in the pass game.

[JoeC]

You absolutely kill me JoeC. Now go and build a rational explanation through Longview's last second, last gasp victory over Rockwall why Longview is a second tier team and will probably be exposed as a fraud any second now. Run along and build that case Joe --- I'll wait patiently.......

Gimmee a break -- we've debated these issues to death. Notice to forum - you cannot build a case based on one game/one week/one team -- three cheers to all who comprehend that and have moved on to more productive things in life.

I'd rather discuss the top songs of all time than dwell on these inane, random comparisons that cement your team's legendary status and suggest everyone else is "suspect" or "watered down", etc.

The ball is oblong for a reason - so it can bounce funny.

Come on now . . . are you still breathing - I was not attempting to commit homicide . . . I was just stating my opinion and just like everyone else including some of your own coharts are concerned. I am not looking for a debate; without a doubt, my opinion cannot be swayed as I hope yours can't. I simply stated my honest opinion - and you can by all means do the same. And contrary to what you think, my rationale was not based solely on one game - it was just a part of my rationale. Second, I considered our experience and strength at the skilled position - we basically have the same offensive weapons that we had last year except Malcolm Kelly and one O-Lineman and you didn't stop us last year . . . it was more like we had five turnovers and still only lost by ten. Truthfully, we may very well have five turnovers this year; but to me, it just doesn't seem rational to expect it. Being realistic, if Lufkin had as many returning offensive weapons as we do and we had barely escaped you guys the previous year, I would be filled with self doubt. Third, I pose the question, do you "honestly" believe that your offense and/or defense is as good as it was last year? You guys had a once in a life time weapon in Javorsky Lane - kinda like what John Tyler had in Earl Campbell and we had with Fred Talley. Speaking from Longview's perspective only, we feel that we have our best offensive machine since the 97 State Finalist team; but truthfully, only time will tell. . . Finally, I was not taking a stab at you guys, I fully respect LP (how can I not, you've earned it!!) . . . I was simply stating my position as I see it . . . I was not stating your position as you see it!! My opinion belongs to me. Now its your turn . . . you can sell yours - it's OK, and I promise - you will not kill me.

[PACK '97]

Respectful post JoeC....I just hope we will meet in the 3rd round again....I know that's month or so away, but cant wait to meet up again....never a dissapointing game....everyone brings their A-game.

[c-lisle]

Yeah that easy schedule really hurt Lufkin in the playoffs last year!! ;) The Nac game was by far the worst game the offense had played all year. It was early and they are getting better with each game like i predicted they would.


There is no doubt in my mind that both teams will bring their A game if we meet. This game will take on added significance if SLC and Katy go D1. It is likely that the D2 state champ will come from this game in that scenario. I personally want to play Katy if Lview were to advance so I want them to go D2. However I hope SLC goes D1 b/c I don't think Lview could beat them.

[Eagle Hombre]

lufkinorlongview

I think it'll be Longview winning Region 2 and meedting Abilene in the semi-finals -- East vs West - potential classic

[pack0808]

Come on now . . . are you still breathing - I was not attempting to commit homicide . . . I was just stating my opinion and just like everyone else including some of your own coharts are concerned. I am not looking for a debate; without a doubt, my opinion cannot be swayed as I hope yours can't. I simply stated my honest opinion - and you can by all means do the same. And contrary to what you think, my rationale was not based solely on one game - it was just a part of my rationale. Second, I considered our experience and strength at the skilled position - we basically have the same offensive weapons that we had last year except Malcolm Kelly and one O-Lineman and you didn't stop us last year . . . it was more like we had five turnovers and still only lost by ten. Truthfully, we may very well have five turnovers this year; but to me, it just doesn't seem rational to expect it. Being realistic, if Lufkin had as many returning offensive weapons as we do and we had barely escaped you guys the previous year, I would be filled with self doubt. Third, I pose the question, do you "honestly" believe that your offense and/or defense is as good as it was last year? You guys had a once in a life time weapon in Javorsky Lane - kinda like what John Tyler had in Earl Campbell and we had with Fred Talley. Speaking from Longview's perspective only, we feel that we have our best offensive machine since the 97 State Finalist team; but truthfully, only time will tell. . . Finally, I was not taking a stab at you guys, I fully respect LP (how can I not, you've earned it!!) . . . I was simply stating my position as I see it . . . I was not stating your position as you see it!! My opinion belongs to me. Now its your turn . . . you can sell yours - it's OK, and I promise - you will not kill me.


My honest opinion, Lufkin wins by at least 10 vs Longview in a great game!! 10 in a row by 10 points you heard it here first. ;) Our teams might not even meet this year so why bother with this stuff now?? LOL But one more thing, Hey Joe c Lufkin had a once a lifetime qb a few years back before Lane wuppee. Now they have a once and a lifetime wr and defense. ;) LOL

[JoeC]

There is no doubt in my mind that both teams will bring their A game if we meet. This game will take on added significance if SLC and Katy go D1. It is likely that the D2 state champ will come from this game in that scenario. I personally want to play Katy if Lview were to advance so I want them to go D2. However I hope SLC goes D1 b/c I don't think Lview could beat them.

There - there . . . you're much different than I am. I'm not looking to dodge any bullets . . . I say bring on the best!! If that's LP and/or SLC - then so be it. And I agree, we would have some difficulty with SLC's passing game; but in turn, I also believe they would have trouble with our running as well as passing game - "just my opinion." I also like the other match up mentioned - the east (Lufkin or Longview) against west (Abilene) scenario. It's kinda got a ring to it - doesn't it?

[travisk44]

Lufkin.....Longview will lose to South Garland in the 1st round :p :D just kidding but I still think it's Lufkin.

[garlandowl08]

This question is obsolete...it will be Lufkin vs. Longview in whatever round and Garland will beat either one one them! :D ...just kidding we have our plate full with JT and Carter...I would probably pick longview here from rankings only, as i have not seen either team play or know much about whats on the line besides going deeper in the playoffs (like rivalry type stuff revenge, trends, etc)

[c-lisle]

There - there . . . you're much different than I am. I'm not looking to dodge any bullets . . . I say bring on the best!! If that's LP and/or SLC - then so be it. And I agree, we would have some difficulty with SLC's passing game; but in turn, I also believe they would have trouble with our running as well as passing game - "just my opinion." I also like the other match up mentioned - the east (Lufkin or Longview) against west (Abilene) scenario. It's kinda got a ring to it - doesn't it?


I think we could beat SLC but we would have to have the perfect game plan and execute it almost perfectly. If we could control the clock like we did against WM we would win....but that would be difficult.

[bleedgreen]

Lufkin.....Longview will lose to South Garland in the 1st round :p :D just kidding but I still think it's Lufkin.
i could only wish that it will be SG---we definitely owe them a favor!!..2 years of frustration will be let out against SG..we won't take them too lightly again, i can assure you that.....................

[Favpack]

My point to JoeC simply was you can't say Lufkin is this or that because of the Nac game - which was like forever ago.

That's a method that simply doesn't hold water at this level - because Lufkin "only" beat Nac. then.....

My point was - build a similar case with Rockwall. Longview squeeked by them - so build a case that Longview just ain't that good. Here's news - Longview and Lufkin are good - if both keep playing well - they'll meet head on in a few weeks.