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Trinity Alum
01-02-2008, 02:43 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3177593

Firebird
01-02-2008, 02:45 PM
Questionable decision, if you ask me. I think that the Longhorns should be much improved next year, especially on the O-line. Charles could have drastically improved his stock had he stayed another year. He would have been a legit Heisman candidate.

I don't think he'll be an every-down back in the NFL, but he's got speed to spare and should do pretty well in the right scheme.

orangeblood
01-02-2008, 02:55 PM
:eek:

wow

Not sure why he is doing this. I agree with Firebird. I think his stock would've been much higher after next season.

Mad Hatter
01-02-2008, 02:56 PM
Danmit to hell that just ruined my day

LPack007
01-02-2008, 02:58 PM
Questionable decision, if you ask me. I think that the Longhorns should be much improved next year, especially on the O-line. Charles could have drastically improved his stock had he stayed another year. He would have been a legit Heisman candidate.

I don't think he'll be an every-down back in the NFL, but he's got speed to spare and should do pretty well in the right scheme.

Yep I agree, but I thought he should of stayed to get a little stronger and like you said improve his stock with that O-line if they stayed healthy a full year.

Empire strikes back
01-02-2008, 03:01 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek: Wow!, what a suprise. I'm going to miss him.

t-long20
01-02-2008, 03:07 PM
There were more pros than cons if he decided to stay. He could've been a heisman candidate,could've gotten stronger,could've improved his stock drastically,et. etc. Unfortunately theres no way hes an every down back atleast right now imo.

Trinity Alum
01-02-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm really surprised he's leaving.

Firebird
01-02-2008, 03:09 PM
Danmit to hell that just ruined my day

I have to say, I don't think it should. UT has a stable of talented backs, with Vondrell McGee looking really special. I honestly think that Charles loses more than Texas does in this deal. Your line will be improved and I think it's almost plug and play with RB's at this point. As long as he hangs onto the ball, the next UT RB should do very, very well.

mtbray
01-02-2008, 03:11 PM
This can only help in getting Darrell Scott. If we get that bad man then Jamaal Charles will be ancient history.

KT2000
01-02-2008, 03:14 PM
I have to say, I don't think it should. UT has a stable of talented backs, with Vondrell McGee looking really special. I honestly think that Charles loses more than Texas does in this deal. Your line will be improved and I think it's almost plug and play with RB's at this point. As long as he hangs onto the ball, the next UT RB should do very, very well.

The problem for Texas (aside from losing a talented player of course) is bridging the experience gap. Charles could have helped Texas do that with another year, and continue to bring the other backs up to speed.

I'm a Vondrell McGee fan, and really like what he brings to the table. Texas also has DeSean Hales and James Kirkendoll in the mix for next year. Both are versatile talents who can add the extra dimension to the Longhorn offense if they are used and used creatively.

Pearland Longhorn
01-02-2008, 03:17 PM
Let the Fozzy era begin.

dada
01-02-2008, 03:20 PM
Let the Fozzy era begin.

WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Firebird
01-02-2008, 03:21 PM
The problem for Texas (aside from losing a talented player of course) is bridging the experience gap. Charles could have helped Texas do that with another year, and continue to bring the other backs up to speed.

I'm a Vondrell McGee fan, and really like what he brings to the table. Texas also has DeSean Hales and James Kirkendoll in the mix for next year. Both are versatile talents who can add the extra dimension to the Longhorn offense if they are used and used creatively.

I can see that, but I really think they'll be OK. Colt will be heading into his 3rd season as a starter and should be able to get the others to rally around him. I think that the UT staff does well at coaching fundamentals and should get the backs ready to play. Call me crazy, but Charles has never really just wowed me like he has some. He's done well, don't get me wrong, but I don't think he was ever gonna be a linchpin for the Horns.

I have real doubts Charles will go 1st round. Of RBs that are probable for the draft, I would take D-Mac, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones, and Steve Slaton ahead of him, maybe the kid from Illinois as well. I think that had he stayed and put together a really good season behind an experienced line, he could have become 1st round material. The allure of $$$ NOW is strong thoug.

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 03:29 PM
This can only help in getting Darrell Scott. If we get that bad man then Jamaal Charles will be ancient history.

If Scott committs (I hope he does), then Tre Newton should withdraw his committ and pledge to UNT. (It'll be a better system for him!) Then you have Jeremy Hills, Darrell Scott, Desean Hales, Vondrell McGee and Fozzy Whitaker to lead UT in the backfield.

If Scott goes to Colorado, I'd be interesting to see if Newton stays and/or if Jermie Calhoun re-thinks his committ to OU.. maybe to jump on the Texas train.

Pearland Longhorn
01-02-2008, 03:32 PM
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KT2000
01-02-2008, 03:34 PM
Firebird, agreed on the crappy timing. This RB class is absolutely loaded with real quality. I'm a big Jonathan Stewart fan as well. He and McFadden will be the talk of the combine if they work out.

Pearland Longhorn
01-02-2008, 03:36 PM
Firebird, agreed on the crappy timing. This RB class is absolutely loaded with real quality. I'm a big Jonathan Stewart fan as well. He and McFadden will be the talk of the combine if they work out.

Yeah, Jonathan Stewart looks like a lock to tear up the NFL...

jrock210
01-02-2008, 04:00 PM
He should have waited another season. I see him 2nd round and if he stays hew would probably go early in the 1st

pied
01-02-2008, 04:01 PM
Hate to see him go, and I do think he would be served well to improve his stick by showing he can consistently hold onto the ball, but oh well.

Good Luck!

KLH75287
01-02-2008, 04:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3177593

Bad move if you ask me, and nobody has:D

I understand exploring the potential draft position and the like, but you have to think that it would greatly improve with another year of growth, exposure, and experience.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Mack Brown should be getting a hold of Darrell Scott right now and telling him he has a chance to play right away.

I don't blame Jamaal for going to the NFL. It's not my place to tell a kid when or where to go after his dream, but why can't these guys just keep their mouths shut leading up to their decision. There have been countless articles quoting Jamaal as saying he was coming back. He told Mack he was coming back. Texas will move on and deal with the loss, but if you know there is a chance you are going to leave, don't tell everybody that you're staying.

BAMF cowboy
01-02-2008, 04:05 PM
Future Dallas Cowboy anyone?

Barber / Charles would be an excellent Power / Speed 1-2 punch.

KLH75287
01-02-2008, 04:10 PM
He should have waited another season. I see him 2nd round and if he stays hew would probably go early in the 1st

If that. NFL scouts are looking for more than speed in an early rd. back. He needs more play time to develop his skills, and could easily be a 1st or 2nd rd. pick next year.

jrock210
01-02-2008, 04:13 PM
If that. NFL scouts are looking for more than speed in an early rd. back. He needs more play time to develop his skills, and could easily be a 1st or 2nd rd. pick next year.

I agree. Not a great yr for RBs and QBs

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Future Dallas Cowboy anyone?

Barber / Charles would be an excellent Power / Speed 1-2 punch.

I think Charles is going to to have an out of this world Combine and (combined with his late season performances) will force some teams into considering him for a Mid-1st Round Draft Pick. If Dallas has a chance (and can't get McFadden), I can see them going with Charles. Charles has bulked up to 205 lbs, roughly at 6'1ish. He If he can add 5 or 10 lbs (gaining power in his upper body), while keeping 95% of his speed, he can be a difference maker. The site of seeing him get to the perimeter and leave guys "walking", while exploding into a distant Universe, is still fresh to my memory.

His fumble-prone and semi-softness amy still be an issue, though.

t-long20
01-02-2008, 04:18 PM
Mack Brown should be getting a hold of Darrell Scott right now and telling him he has a chance to play right away.

I don't blame Jamaal for going to the NFL. It's not my place to tell a kid when or where to go after his dream, but why can't these guys just keep their mouths shut leading up to their decision. There have been countless articles quoting Jamaal as saying he was coming back. He told Mack he was coming back. Texas will move on and deal with the loss, but if you know there is a chance you are going to leave, don't tell everybody that you're staying.

I dont think telling Darrell Scott he has a "chance" is good enough. I think he has to gurantee some playing time something another D1 college will probably try

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 04:27 PM
I agree. Not a great yr for RBs and QBs

Don't know about that. This is the main group of QB's and RB's that I see entering the NFL Draft, either as a Jr or Sr.

QB
Matt Ryan (Solid 1st Rnd)
Brian Brohm (Solid 1st Rnd)
Andre Woodson (1st Rnd Potential)
Chad Henne
Erik Ainge
John David Booty
Colt Brennan
Matt Flynn
Sam Keller

RB
Darren McFadden (Solid 1st Rnd)
Jamaal Charles (1st Rnd Potential)
Felix Jones (1st Rnd Potential)
Steve Slaton (1st Rnd Potential)
Jonathan Stewart (1st Rnd Potential)
Chris Johnson
Tashard Choice
Yvenson Bernard
Anthony Alridge
Justin Forsett
Mike Hart
Jacob Hester
Rafael Little
Allen Patrick
Dantrell Savage
Matt Forte
Chauncey Washington
Thomas Brown
Albert Young

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 04:29 PM
I dont think telling Darrell Scott he has a "chance" is good enough. I think he has to gurantee some playing time something another D1 college will probably try

There wouldn't be any discussion. I would tell Scott he's my #1 ace... then have a distant "assistant" call Todd Dodge and have him increase some pressure on Tre Newton, in order to get Newton out of the way. Opens up room to get another LB, DT or DE. Truth is.. I'm not that impressed with Newton.

KLH75287
01-02-2008, 04:36 PM
I think Charles is going to to have an out of this world Combine and (combined with his late season performances) will force some teams into considering him for a Mid-1st Round Draft Pick. If Dallas has a chance (and can't get McFadden), I can see them going with Charles. Charles has bulked up to 205 lbs, roughly at 6'1ish. He If he can add 5 or 10 lbs (gaining power in his upper body), while keeping 95% of his speed, he can be a difference maker. The site of seeing him get to the perimeter and leave guys "walking", while exploding into a distant Universe, is still fresh to my memory.

His fumble-prone and semi-softness amy still be an issue, though.

New England will take McFadden with their number 2 overall pick (from San Francisco). Dallas will not see him on the board by the time they use the pick they gained in the trade from Cleveland in last year's draft. Who could have guessed that Cleveland would have done so well this year? Darn the luck. Now the best team in the NFL (Undefeated, and only tested 3 times) will most likely gets the best game breaker available in the 2008 draft.

Those are HUGE issues, and could be erased by another year of great performances and experience. I would be shocked if he goes in the 2nd rd, unless he has an All-World combine, which will be tough with so many teams looking at other more "seasoned" performers.

IMO

t-long20
01-02-2008, 04:41 PM
There wouldn't be any discussion. I would tell Scott he's my #1 ace... then have a distant "assistant" call Todd Dodge and have him increase some pressure on Tre Newton, in order to get Newton out of the way. Opens up room to get another LB, DT or DE. Truth is.. I'm not that impressed with Newton.

Me neither. Especially with all the other talent at the RB spot that Texas will have

jakerz
01-02-2008, 04:51 PM
New England will take McFadden with their number 2 overall pick (from San Francisco). Dallas will not see him on the board by the time they use the pick they gained in the trade from Cleveland in last year's draft. Who could have guessed that Cleveland would have done so well this year? Darn the luck. Now the best team in the NFL (Undefeated, and only tested 3 times) will most likely gets the best game breaker available in the 2008 draft.

Those are HUGE issues, and could be erased by another year of great performances and experience. I would be shocked if he goes in the 2nd rd, unless he has an All-World combine, which will be tough with so many teams looking at other more "seasoned" performers.

IMO

I think scouts look at combine stats no matter if theres 50 million other super star players. They want to find a gem - no matter what it takes.

If Jamaal doesn't have an impressive combine, there is no way he is taken in the 1st round. And, even if he does have a great combine that would barely move him into first round position.

In all reality, I think Jamaal new that McGee was a star waiting to happen and Jamaal would probably have lesser numbers next year. His pass catching ability hasn't been tested yet and his inconsistency is a problem in my opinion.

ttrojan85
01-02-2008, 04:52 PM
hes a good back but not ready for the NFL game right now he should definatly wait another year but thats probalbly a really hard thing to do when millions of dollars are calling your name.

t-long20
01-02-2008, 04:58 PM
hes a good back but not ready for the NFL game right now he should definatly wait another year but thats probalbly a really hard thing to do when millions of dollars are calling your name.

But none of those "millions of dollars" will be guranteed money if he is chosen in the second round

SLC93
01-02-2008, 05:02 PM
New England will take McFadden with their number 2 overall pick (from San Francisco). Dallas will not see him on the board by the time they use the pick they gained in the trade from Cleveland in last year's draft. Who could have guessed that Cleveland would have done so well this year? Darn the luck. Now the best team in the NFL (Undefeated, and only tested 3 times) will most likely gets the best game breaker available in the 2008 draft.

Those are HUGE issues, and could be erased by another year of great performances and experience. I would be shocked if he goes in the 2nd rd, unless he has an All-World combine, which will be tough with so many teams looking at other more "seasoned" performers.

IMO

Don't want to get too off topic here but that pick NE has is the seventh overall, far too low for McFadden. It's no better than 50/50 the Pats even make that selection. Top 10 picks and the salaries that go along with them are not part of the NE philosophy. They'll deal and acquire more picks to keep the flexibility they have most every draft. It's one of the things that keeps that organization in good shape, consistently.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Texas doesn't have to dump Newton to make way for Scott and I don't want them too. Scott has been a part of the picture for many months now.

I think Jamaal picked a terrible time to come out. He is going to have to have a once in a decade combine to really improve his stock. If all the juniors we expect to come out do, these are the RBs likely to be drafted ahead of Jamaal...

McFadden
Felix Jones
Jonathan Stewart
Mike Hart
Tashard Choice
Allen Patrick
and maybe Chris Johnson

Jamaal pick an absolutely horrible year to go pro. He's Jerious Norwood part II and I will be shocked if Jamaal is a first round pick.

BDB
01-02-2008, 05:07 PM
But none of those "millions of dollars" will be guranteed money if he is chosen in the second round

if he's a bust, or (god forbid) has a bad injury, that money will either go to an agent trying to make deals of a doctor trying to heal him. IMO

SLC93
01-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Truth is.. I'm not that impressed with Newton.

Truth is most folks aren't impressed with Tre until the game is over a he's rushed for a buck fifty, scored a few times and kept the extra blitzer from ever sniffing the quarterback. Newton is not on par with Scott, physically. I wouldn't argue that. What I do encourage folks to do is go back to the film and really watch the kid operate. Texas is getting a kid that is 100% system ready. He's run the most precise, spread option offense in the nation for years now and is an accomplished receiver and blocker. His speed is deceptive because he's a strider, think of Dickerson or VY for that matter. You never realize how fast they're moving because of the stride. He's been the most underappreciated, star rb in recent memory. Rb may not even be where he ultimately lands for the Longhorns but he won't decommit. Tre's long term plan involve a degree in International Business Law. He's there for the free education as much as the football.

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 05:17 PM
Texas doesn't have to dump Newton to make way for Scott and I don't want them too. Scott has been a part of the picture for many months now.

I think Jamaal picked a terrible time to come out. He is going to have to have a once in a decade combine to really improve his stock. If all the juniors we expect to come out do, these are the RBs likely to be drafted ahead of Jamaal...

McFadden
Felix Jones
Jonathan Stewart
Mike Hart
Tashard Choice
Allen Patrick
and maybe Chris Johnson

Jamaal pick an absolutely horrible year to go pro. He's Jerious Norwood part II and I will be shocked if Jamaal is a first round pick.

I just haven't been that impressed with Newton. Might just be me. Why not use the "paper work" on another position, if you are the Longhorns?? What are the other needs??

I think too many scouts put too much into Draft times and workouts. I do like all of the RB's you listed. If they go before Charles, so be it. Scott coming to Texas, in place of Charles leaving, would be incredible for Texas.

Your right... Mack should be camping in the front yard of Scott's house! ;)

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Truth is most folks aren't impressed with Tre until the game is over a he's rushed for a buck fifty, scored a few times and kept the extra blitzer from ever sniffing the quarterback. Newton is not on par with Scott, physically. I wouldn't argue that. What I do encourage folks to do is go back to the film and really watch the kid operate. Texas is getting a kid that is 100% system ready. He's run the most precise, spread option offense in the nation for years now and is an accomplished receiver and blocker. His speed is deceptive because he's a strider, think of Dickerson or VY for that matter. You never realize how fast they're moving because of the stride. He's been the most underappreciated, star rb in recent memory. Rb may not even be where he ultimately lands for the Longhorns but he won't decommit. Tre's long term plan involve a degree in International Business Law. He's there for the free education as much as the football.

Hey, you may be right. If so, I will gladly eat my crow. I like to see Texas do well. I hope the best for Newton. Let me add, I have only seen him a few times on tv and once in person... and that was against MNW.

SLC93
01-02-2008, 05:23 PM
You can't argue that Charles would more than likely go higher next spring. Barring injury, he very well may be a top ten talent. Considering this was the 1st season he trained and focused to be a football player only, one could only imagine where he'd be after another offseason of work. Still the fact remains that he'll be an early round selection this spring. There are no guarantess in life for any of us but especially a running back. He can go now, train hard and turn some heads at the combine. He'll be fine. The best situation for him would be to land somewhere that embraces the two back system. That would allow for the necessary time to really get his body ready for the NFL. Can't fault the kid and Texas will be just fine.

KT2000
01-02-2008, 05:36 PM
I read a statement from Charles released by UT, and it appears his NFL grade convinced him it was time. Apparently, the players throw their names into a hat and get a pro evaluation.

They must have told him he projected as one of the top 3-5 backs then because I don't see why he'd leave otherwise.

I think Charles could be a very effective tandem back in a Fred Taylor/Maurice Jones-Drew type running game.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 05:49 PM
I just haven't been that impressed with Newton. Might just be me. Why not use the "paper work" on another position, if you are the Longhorns?? What are the other needs??

I think too many scouts put too much into Draft times and workouts. I do like all of the RB's you listed. If they go before Charles, so be it. Scott coming to Texas, in place of Charles leaving, would be incredible for Texas.

Your right... Mack should be camping in the front yard of Scott's house! ;)

I like Tre a lot. In fact, he's one of my favorite recruits in this class. I like him for his potential and ability, but I like the fact that he has spent his entire high school career running from the shotgun... much like Texas does. That has proven to be a tough transition for some RBs and the fact that Tre has been running from the gun behind a zone-blocking scheme leads me to believe that he will have a comfortable transition to the college level. He's going to have to bulk up because right now he has Jamaal's frame with Ricky Williams' running style and that could get him killed at the college level. I expect Tre to put on 20 pounds or so and become a good power back.

ThEgReAtOnE
01-02-2008, 06:02 PM
I like Tre a lot. In fact, he's one of my favorite recruits in this class. I like him for his potential and ability, but I like the fact that he has spent his entire high school career running from the shotgun... much like Texas does. That has proven to be a tough transition for some RBs and the fact that Tre has been running from the gun behind a zone-blocking scheme leads me to believe that he will have a comfortable transition to the college level. He's going to have to bulk up because right now he has Jamaal's frame with Ricky Williams' running style and that could get him killed at the college level. I expect Tre to put on 20 pounds or so and become a good power back.

I'm a speed guy, I guess. Tre doesn't have the speed or agility of a Scott, but he has the big body and system-experience. Each to his own.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm a speed guy, I guess. Tre doesn't have the speed or agility of a Scott, but he has the big body and system-experience. Each to his own.

I would rather have a guy that breaks tackles. Once they get in the open field, not a whole lot separates most RBs IMO. Where a RB is good or not is breaking tackles and getting into the open field. Jamaal struggled with that most of his college career. I like the idea of a RB least likely to struggle with that.

HUM398
01-02-2008, 06:26 PM
I like Hales and Scott as a 1-2 punch.

Scott is a fast back and powerful back. and Hales is the Elusive speed type back. Plus you can line him up just about anywhere on the field and hill catch the ball and take it to the house.

On a side note, i hope Dan Buckner plays next year. He is the real deal.

slorch
01-02-2008, 06:28 PM
I could tell in the interviews that he's had 'nuff of this studying stuff...:rolleyes::D

SLC93
01-02-2008, 06:46 PM
I like Tre a lot. In fact, he's one of my favorite recruits in this class. I like him for his potential and ability, but I like the fact that he has spent his entire high school career running from the shotgun... much like Texas does. That has proven to be a tough transition for some RBs and the fact that Tre has been running from the gun behind a zone-blocking scheme leads me to believe that he will have a comfortable transition to the college level. He's going to have to bulk up because right now he has Jamaal's frame with Ricky Williams' running style and that could get him killed at the college level. I expect Tre to put on 20 pounds or so and become a good power back.

He's only been running this offense since he was in elementary school. Besides his under valued ability, his experience in system is his most overlooked asset. Couldn't agree with you more. The 20 lbs will come and, yes, they are needed.

SLC93
01-02-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm a speed guy, I guess. Tre doesn't have the speed or agility of a Scott, but he has the big body and system-experience. Each to his own.

That's the great part about running backs. There's a different flavor for everyone and most of them work. Think of all the outstanding backs through the years. All were unique in most every way. Speed will kill you. Power can get it done. Some runners have footwork. Some of them just feel the game better than everyone else. There's really no wrong combination because so many different ones have worked. Scott is a stud, that's no lie. Newton is gonna be one of those guys you forget about, until he splashes onto the scene. He'll be a pleasant suprise, imo.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 06:52 PM
At the very worse, I could see Newton used a lot like Obi-Won... 3rd down back who catches a lot of passes and takes some runs on occasion.

lonny23
01-02-2008, 08:15 PM
I could tell in the interviews that he's had 'nuff of this studying stuff...:rolleyes::D
You talking about the high school all-star game?

I guess "The University Of The State Of Texas" just isn't what it used to be!:p

Ace79603
01-02-2008, 09:03 PM
I think if any team wants him it would have to be the browns. with an older Lewis they need some back up there

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 09:08 PM
I would actually like to see Jamaal in Tennessee. He would be a nice compliment to LandWhale and could probably be picked up in the 2nd or 3rd round. The only concern I have is Jamaal's propensity for fumbling combined with LandWhale's propensity for fumbling. I would also like to see Tennessee pick up a good receiving back and Jamaal is not that.

Firebird
01-02-2008, 09:12 PM
A lot of teams besides the Browns would like to have Charles. Anytime you have a 1,600 yard rusher with truly elite speed (something J Charles has in spades), its a good thing.

The question is, how many teams want him more than they do the other excellent RBs in this class.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Jamaal has played just one truly good half of football in 3 years. That is why I really question his decision.

KLH75287
01-02-2008, 11:20 PM
Jamaal has played just one truly good half of football in 3 years. That is why I really question his decision.

I'm guessing that some NFL agent has convinced him that turning in a true 4.3 in shorts at the combine will cause pro scouts to over look a lot of question marks regarding his ability to enter the league and make an impact.

I've read on another thread that he is an outstanding student. If that is the case, you would hope that he has done his homework and is making the best decision for his future.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 11:25 PM
I'm guessing that some NFL agent has convinced him that turning in a true 4.3 in shorts at the combine will cause pro scouts to over look a lot of question marks regarding his ability to enter the league and make an impact.

I've read on another thread that he is an outstanding student. If that is the case, you would hope that he has done his homework and is making the best decision for his future.

He's a good student, but it's easy to be swayed by the money. I'm just looking at this year's RB class and next years and wondering what he's thinking. If it's really about the money, he would have been better off coming out next year.

KLH75287
01-02-2008, 11:31 PM
He's a good student, but it's easy to be swayed by the money. I'm just looking at this year's RB class and next years and wondering what he's thinking. If it's really about the money, he would have been better off coming out next year.

Agreed..... However, the risk of injury next year has to have played into that decision. Bird in hand type of situation. I just hope it works out for him, but really have my doubts.

jtk1519
01-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Agreed..... However, the risk of injury next year has to have played into that decision. Bird in hand type of situation. I just hope it works out for him, but really have my doubts.

That's the only thing I can think of, even though he went pretty much injury free this year and he carried the ball more than ever this year.

CLFalcon2006
01-03-2008, 12:41 AM
sweet mother of God, I had to deal with Fozzy for 3 damn years now i get to deal with him again. If this kid gets drafted by the Titans or something I'm going to friggin explode!

slorch
01-03-2008, 07:20 AM
Charles better learn not to fumble or how to tackle if he expects to play in the NFL.

Favpack
01-03-2008, 07:51 AM
I can't say this was a terrible decision for Jamaal - but I can't imagine him going in the first two rounds. IF he stayed healthy next year and duplicated this year - he's a Heisman finalist and could be the top rb taken. That is always a big if for rb's. But, a difference of about $12M - guaranteed.

unbiasedobserver
01-03-2008, 09:05 AM
I think Texas will be fine at the RB position. Charles on the other hand I am not so sure of. I would think in the first two rounds most teams are looking for every down backs. Charles is more of a change of pace back in the pros. His speed will get him drafted, but I just have a hard time envisioning him being the featured back.
Good luck to him. I always like to see the Texas (HS and college) do well.
Off subject slightly has anyone heard of Malcolm Kelly's intentions?

slorch
01-03-2008, 10:04 AM
Off subject slightly has anyone heard of Malcolm Kelly's intentions?

he told us since he won't be first team all Big XII next year, he's leaving.;)

signed,
Crab and Dez

slcdragonfan
01-03-2008, 10:19 AM
I can't say this was a terrible decision for Jamaal - but I can't imagine him going in the first two rounds. IF he stayed healthy next year and duplicated this year - he's a Heisman finalist and could be the top rb taken. That is always a big if for rb's. But, a difference of about $12M - guaranteed.

I agree. Exactly what I was thinking.

SLC93
01-03-2008, 11:02 AM
he told us since he won't be first team all Big XII next year, he's leaving.;)

signed,
Crab and Dez

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

jtk1519
01-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Jamaal potentially cost himself HUGE money. If he could have come back next year and played an entire year like he did the last half of this season, combined with a good combine, I don't think it is a stretch to say that Jamaal could have worked his way up high into the first round... maybe a top 10 pick. What kind of money difference is that? A lot...

As a top 10 pick, Adrian Peterson received a 5 year, $40.5 million contract w/ $17 million guaranteed

As the first RB taken in round 2, Kenny Irons received a 4 year, $5 million contract

As the first RB taken in round 3, Lorenzo Booker received a 4 year, $2.1 million contract

We're talking about a difference of more than $30 million... not to mention the all important guaranteed money. Even going in the middle of the first round, Jamaal could have possibly earned Marshawn Lynch money which was close to $20 million in 6 year deal with more than $10 million guaranteed.