Realilgnment 5A Cutoff

[LOBO222]

ok, for everyone that is looking forward to the realignment in february, what do you expect the 5A cutoff enrollment number to be. i am under the impression that there can be no more than 245 5A schools, so i think that the cutoff will be around 2050. i hate this though, cause it leaves my school, longview, out of 5A. but what do yall think

[jtk1519]

2040-2050 is the predicted range. Highland Park turned in 2025 so I think the cutoff will be 2026.

[Rapture]

ok, for everyone that is looking forward to the realignment in february, what do you expect the 5A cutoff enrollment number to be. i am under the impression that there can be no more than 245 5A schools, so i think that the cutoff will be around 2050. i hate this though, cause it leaves my school, longview, out of 5A. but what do yall think
maybe around 2025 or 2020

[LoneRocket]

ok, for everyone that is looking forward to the realignment in february, what do you expect the 5A cutoff enrollment number to be. i am under the impression that there can be no more than 245 5A schools, so i think that the cutoff will be around 2050. i hate this though, cause it leaves my school, longview, out of 5A. but what do yall think

I think some people are going to start yelling if schools with enrollments in the 2000 range that are 4A.

[Rapture]

I think some people are going to start yelling if schools with enrollments in the 2000 range that are 4A.
no highland park is a lil above 2000 so you know they are not gonna go 5a. so that means it will be enough to keep them 4a.;)

[LoneRocket]

no highland park is a lil above 2000 so you know they are not gonna go 5a. so that means it will be enough to keep them 4a.;)

Yeah 2000 student body vs. a 970 student body. Special needs kids either count as .5 or 0.

[eingedikid]

Yeah 2000 student body vs. a 970 student body. Special needs kids either count as .5 or 0.In so many ways 4A is fast becoming the place to be. I didn't know about how they count special needs kids. Isn't that kind of like the way they used to calculate population in slave states where a slave was counted as 3/5 or something like that?

[t-long20]

In so many ways 4A is fast becoming the place to be. I didn't know about how they count special needs kids. Isn't that kind of like the way they used to calculate population in slave states where a slave was counted as 3/5 or something like that?

Wow i didnt know slavery had something to do with enrollment numbers

[LoneRocket]

Wow i didnt know slavery had something to do with enrollment numbers

He means that a special needs student is not counted as 1.0 but .5 or 0 when it comes to UIL counts.

[Mav_Man]

2040-2050 is the predicted range. Highland Park turned in 2025 so I think the cutoff will be 2026.


I agree! H-P recently turned in 2025, so a 2026 5A cut-off will not surprise me either.

[dragonsdaddy]

I agree! H-P recently turned in 2025, so a 2026 5A cut-off will not surprise me either.

the only real surprise would be a cut-off of 2024.

[Mav_Man]

the only real surprise would be a cut-off of 2024.



LOL!!! Yep!

[picperp]

ok, for everyone that is looking forward to the realignment in february, what do you expect the 5A cutoff enrollment number to be. i am under the impression that there can be no more than 245 5A schools, so i think that the cutoff will be around 2050. i hate this though, cause it leaves my school, longview, out of 5A. but what do yall think

I don't think 245 is necessarily a magic number for the UIL, considering the growing number of high schools.

[Alurista]

Conference and District Assignment Policies and Procedures
For 2008-09 and 2009-10 Realignment


4. Conference AAAAA should consist of a minimum of 220 schools and a maximum of 245 schools participating in football (depending on how many new schools there are the next alignment period)......yada yada

Sure, the UIL makes the weirdest decisions every realignment, but the 245 number seems "set in stone".

[DrEdward]

Wow i didnt know slavery had something to do with enrollment numbers

Modern day slavery in the United States has more to do with the status of graduate students. :rolleyes: But the constitutional parallel to UIL enrollment figures is interesting.

[LoboFan07]

2040-2050 is the predicted range. Highland Park turned in 2025 so I think the cutoff will be 2026.

Highland Park turned in 2009 according to TPX

[78 Spartan]

I'd like to see a 16 district, 128 team Class 6A that would probably start at around 2,300 or 2,400 students. It's time.

[DrEdward]

I'd like to see a 16 district, 128 team Class 6A that would probably start at around 2,300 or 2,400 students. It's time.

Okay, let's say that was the case. Does that mean that you would have a 5A that would stretch all the way from approximately 2,050 to 2,400? And then 6A above that? I fail to see what that really accomplishes. One would then also have to address all the other classifications when it comes to their ranges. The range for the 5A would be way too small and all we would have managed to do is decrease the range of the largest classification from its current range of about 3,800 students to 3,400 students. Not much of an improvement, in my opinion. That's not necessarily a voice against a new classification, but until something addresses the handful of truly huge high schools, the gap in enrollment in the the largest category is simply going to be very, very large. That's one reason I suggested somewhere that Allen and the Plano schools need to be broken up into separate districts, with no more than two of them in the same distrct each.

[78 Spartan]

Okay, let's say that was the case. Does that mean that you would have a 5A that would stretch all the way from approximately 2,050 to 2,400? And then 6A above that? I fail to see what that really accomplishes. One would then also have to address all the other classifications when it comes to their ranges. The range for the 5A would be way too small and all we would have managed to do is decrease the range of the largest classification from its current range of about 3,800 students to 3,400 students. Not much of an improvement, in my opinion. That's not necessarily a voice against a new classification, but until something addresses the handful of truly huge high schools, the gap in enrollment in the the largest category is simply going to be very, very large. That's one reason I suggested somewhere that Allen and the Plano schools need to be broken up into separate districts, with no more than two of them in the same distrct each.


Nope. If I were King of the World, I'd have a 6A with about 120 schools in it, then the next 240 would be 5A. If you lopped the top off of the current 5A to create a 6A, then the new 5A would be basically the bottom of the current 5A plus the top end of the current 4A. This change would cascade down the classifications.

In my world (and these numbers are just guesses), the schools above 2,400 or so would be 6A and then 5A would probably range from about 1,600 to 2,400 with a mean of 2,000.

You seem to think that the problem is the mega-schools like Allen and Plano, but I think schools with 2,500 to 3,000 are capable of competing with them, as evidenced in the playoffs this year.

Spreading out the mega-schools so they aren't competing with each other isn't the answer. That only ensures that you'll have a single dominant school most of the time in each district. I say put the giants in there together, give them the biggest cut of the FSN/UIL television money and let them start traveling more broadly across the state. They would be the glamor boys but 5A would be plenty big and diverse with urban, suburban and rural schools represented.

Finally, I'd jigger the calculation to account for the transient factor. Just because you have, say, 2,400 kids in the school, that doesn't mean you should have to compete at the 6A level. Imagine a school with the following demographics:

Freshmen: 900, of which only 25% are likely to be there for four years.
Sophomores: 600
Juniors: 500
Seniors: 400, only half of which have been at the school for four years.

You can't build a football program without continuity of the players. Schools with high student turnover would get to factor that in and compete down.

[toonman]

2040-2050 is the predicted range. Highland Park turned in 2025 so I think the cutoff will be 2026.

Correct!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

the only real surprise would be a cut-off of 2024.

The Scots would sh:Censor:t down both legs if that happened.

[Trinity Alum]

The Scots would sh:Censor:t down both legs if that happened.

Yep!

[Drgnlady]

I don't think 245 is necessarily a magic number for the UIL, considering the growing number of high schools.

UIL realignment rules state that 5A shall consist of a minimum of 220 and a maximum of 245 schools. It's on their website.

[DrEdward]

UIL realignment rules state that 5A shall consist of a minimum of 220 and a maximum of 245 schools. It's on their website.

Of course, the UIL could choose to revise that policy guideline. I don't think they will at this point, but it is certainly possible.

[TrinityTrojan80]

My guess is the cutoff will be 2096.