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TrojanHorse03
10-17-2005, 03:58 PM
As they say those who dont't learn from past mistakes are doomed to repeat them, hence Southlake fans point out with glee that every challenger has become victims in the same bad movie. Having had time to ponder the number 1 reason for Southlakes's current winning streak, its my believe that the biggest reason behind it is their ability to adjust to adversity on both sides of the ball but particularly on offense. They seem well aware of their opponent's intention's deny them one aspect of their game and commit to whats available. If a football game was viewed as 4 rounds in a match, nobody has one 3 rounds and certainly not 4 rounds except for one. 2003 Katy. I didn't get to watch the game in person or on tv. Other teams with equal or perhap more talent have been able to win 2 rounds with Southlake with varying success but ultimately a loss. So what is it that Katy did to win in such a low scoring game from start to finish?

BAMF cowboy
10-17-2005, 04:01 PM
1) ran the ball very consistently (gosh i wish i remember that guys name, but man he was quick) they ate up A LOT of the clock.
2) played very sound defense
3) the made the big plays when they needed to
4) Hartley missed FG to put SLC up by 9, and had a punt blocked!

Fleeman93
10-17-2005, 04:04 PM
Katy had the only game plan in place that can beat a team like SLC and they executed it fairly well. The two main things to beating SLC in my opinion is to control the clock and don't let them beat you deep. If you can do those two things then you have a chance. Also, forget about making a lot of mistakes because they don't make many. Would have, could have, should have, but Katy could have won that game by much more if they could have executed in the red zone (give credit to SLC's defense). The difference between this year's team and the last two years is that you don't have to plan hard for the QB to beat you with his legs which makes the task a little easier in my opinion.

dragonsdaddy
10-17-2005, 04:15 PM
unfotunately for c-heritage, they missed that pre-game meeting and gave up 178 to mcelroy. i don't think chase ever had as much. i agree he's not the athlete that chase was, but he can run and has when required.

the kt plan was very well executed, and could have developed into a 14 point win as easily as it could have been a 14 point loss. they used aston masterfully.

DragonFan
10-17-2005, 04:27 PM
Katy took advantage of mistakes on SLC's part. A punt was blocked because the kids took off down field and did not stay home to block. (credit worrying about a punt runback), a missed Field Goal by a kicker who had not missed one all year. An offense that kept the Dragons Offense off the field. A poor choice on Daniel part to throw to a covered reciever and getting an interception rather thans running when he had a big opening for him, Not covering the fastest kid from Katy on a long bomb. And the biggest reason was, believe it or not, Dodge was outcoached that day!

SLC has shown it can be beat, just not very often.

SmilinTiger
10-17-2005, 04:30 PM
1) ran the ball very consistently (gosh i wish i remember that guys name, but man he was quick) they ate up A LOT of the clock.
2) played very sound defense
3) the made the big plays when they needed to
4) Hartley missed FG to put SLC up by 9, and had a punt blocked!

All of that is true. But Katy was losing in the waning minutes of that game. What ultimately won the game was a coaching decision. The Katy coaches had noticed in watching films the week before that in certain situations the SLC secondary played up very close. In this case, Katy had a 2nd and 15 facing them and the SLC coaches were looking for the play action pass to a crossing tight end. This meant move the secondary up. In normal circumstances, that would have been the Katy play. But, this was not a normal circumstance and Katy gambled with the long post route figuring that if our fastest player could get a few steps on the SLC secondary before they realized what we were doing then we had a reasonable chance of pulling this off. As luck would have it, it worked and the rest is history. To be discussed again and again.

poppy
10-17-2005, 04:37 PM
katy is a lot better this year than the 2003 group...
if slc and katy meet again it will be very interesting..
katy has the big o/l again this year and a qb that
can actually trrow the ball with consistancy..
katy has 2 running backs 4/4 speed and about 6 wr's
that play..the ol is a veteran group with 4 of the 5 starters from last year.
the d line has all 4 starters from last year and the db's are a better overall group than the 2003 team..they also have a lot more overall team speed
than the 2003 group.
katy don't run the score up on teams. they have been up 45-0
twice at halftime and called off the dogs...
don't let the yards and points against katy fool you...
all but a few td's were scored against the 2nd and 3rd team...
i know slc is also a better overall team than the 2003 version...
if both teams make it that far it should be a great match up...
i promise it won't be 16-15....both teams will put the points up..
it could be one of those last man standing games...

dragonsdaddy
10-17-2005, 04:45 PM
All of that is true. But Katy was losing in the waning minutes of that game. What ultimately won the game was a coaching decision. The Katy coaches had noticed in watching films the week before that in certain situations the SLC secondary played up very close. In this case, Katy had a 2nd and 15 facing them and the SLC coaches were looking for the play action pass to a crossing tight end. This meant move the secondary up. In normal circumstances, that would have been the Katy play. But, this was not a normal circumstance and Katy gambled with the long post route figuring that if our fastest player could get a few steps on the SLC secondary before they realized what we were doing then we had a reasonable chance of pulling this off. As luck would have it, it worked and the rest is history. To be discussed again and again.
had the motion not been misplayed by the free safety, it might not have worked then either. the defense called was for the free safety to stay with mouton deep. didn't happen and everyone knows the rest of the story.

youwish22
10-17-2005, 04:57 PM
just to give a little more info. not by any means an excuse, trust me, a motion by the fulback was supposed to be taken by a linebacker, didn't happen, corner ended up leaving tightend to take fullback, leaving free safety to bump over on tight end, in retrospect, everyone knew what was coming and tight end should have been let go, but can't do anything about it now.

dragonsdaddy
10-17-2005, 05:09 PM
yeah, that's kinda what i meant. hope it hasn't gotten too cold up there in the mts yet.

drgnbkr
10-17-2005, 06:11 PM
Take away Carrols' offensive options, move the ball yourself & maintain possesion & score..then you have a chance...can anyone do it?....Thats why we have the playoffs

SmilinTiger
10-17-2005, 08:16 PM
had the motion not been misplayed by the free safety, it might not have worked then either. the defense called was for the free safety to stay with mouton deep. didn't happen and everyone knows the rest of the story.

to be discussed again and again.

When a team has lost only one game in 3 1/2 seasons, the question, HOW, will always come up.