Houston Area realignments. - Time for somebody else to be odd ones out.

[twcpfan1]

I think it's time for Spring, Klein and Woodlands schools to rejoin the rest of Houston. Somebody else can be the rejects. :D

Katy and Cypress schools to Region 4?

Post your thoughts on realignment in the Houston area. What changes would you make? Who do you think will be the new District mates? Where will Lufkin end up? etc.

[shooter]

Too many Valley 5A schools for Katy to come over here. UIL always looks to Austin to fill any holes in our area. Nice try but Katy is yours

[twcpfan1]

Too many Valley 5A schools for Katy to come over here. UIL always looks to Austin to fill any holes in our area. Nice try but Katy is yours


Actually they're not. We're in Region 2 with the other stepchildren :D

[shooter]

Actually they're not. We're in Region 2 with the other stepchildren :D

Sorry you did not make yourself clear on where you were located. Katy stays in 3

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I see the 4 Spring Branch schools joining the Alief Schools

KISD will have 6 5as next year so the Jesuits may rejoin 185a.

FBISD? who the heck knows! not all have 5a #s but they elect to play up. 9 total next year. May split this district in half and add Rosenburg Terry and possibly the Jesuits in here also.

175a? again who knows, but I don't see the Jesuits playing in their district.

Just my thoughts, but it is fun talking about.

[EagleDude73]

Actually they're not. We're in Region 2 with the other stepchildren :D

As long as I can remember the Klein schools have always been R2. At one time the Cy-Fair schools were in the same district and Spring schools have been shifted in and out. We always hit the Bryan - CS in R1,Austin in R2, then to East Texas and Dallas. I will be extremely surprised if the UIL ever consolidates the Houston area. I liked the NS-TWHS all H-Town area SC a few years back. Longview is going 4A and I hear Lufkin and Tyler Lee will be the only 5A's in East Texas.

[shooter]

I see the 4 Spring Branch schools joining the Alief Schools

KISD will have 6 5as next year so the Jesuits may rejoin 185a.

FBISD? who the heck knows! not all have 5a #s but they elect to play up. 9 total next year. May split this district in half and add Rosenburg Terry and possibly the Jesuits in here also.

175a? again who knows, but I don't see the Jesuits playing in their district.

Just my thoughts, but it is fun talking about.


you should ship the Jusuits over her to the 265 they would never make the playoffs again and pay to get back into Region III

[EagleDude73]

you should ship the Jusuits over her to the 265 they would never make the playoffs again and pay to get back into Region III

I was thinking since Katy goes to SA every weekend, they would be a good candidate for the 265.

[shooter]

I was thinking since Katy goes to SA every weekend, they would be a good candidate for the 265.

We would love to have them, nothing like making the toughest district even tougher

[Fleeman93]

you should ship the Jusuits over her to the 265 they would never make the playoffs again and pay to get back into Region III


Not sure if you saw the jesuits play this year but I would bet that they would have made the playoffs in 265 this year. Crazy thing is that they probably would have knocked Judson out of the 4th spot. Go figure.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Not sure if you saw the jesuits play this year but I would bet that they would have made the playoffs in 265 this year. Crazy thing is that they probably would have knocked Judson out of the 4th spot. Go figure.Drake will use this post as his signature. It's the nicest thing you've said about the Jesuits in years:D

[Fleeman93]

Drake will use this post as his signature. It's the nicest thing you've said about the Jesuits in years:D


I don't like the fact that the jesuits are in 5A but the truth is the truth.

[shooter]

Not sure if you saw the jesuits play this year but I would bet that they would have made the playoffs in 265 this year. Crazy thing is that they probably would have knocked Judson out of the 4th spot. Go figure.

they probably would have swept the 265 and walked away with the Region IV title in both divisions as well...

Go figure

[shooter]

I don't like the fact that the jesuits are in 5A but the truth is the truth.

it's better than them being in 3A where they could real make some noise. keep them where they have a hard time competing as they are beating the crap out of everyone in the recruiting area.

[Fleeman93]

they probably would have swept the 265 and walked away with the Region IV title in both divisions as well...

Go figure



No, they weren't that good but they would have made the playoffs for sure.

[Fleeman93]

it's better than them being in 3A where they could real make some noise. keep them where they have a hard time competing as they are beating the crap out of everyone in the recruiting area.


Poor choice of words on my part. Should have said public school football and not just 5A.

[Redhoss]

Personally, I don't get having teams in the greater Houston area playing in other regions. :eek:

[LPack007]

As long as I can remember the Klein schools have always been R2. At one time the Cy-Fair schools were in the same district and Spring schools have been shifted in and out. We always hit the Bryan - CS in R1,Austin in R2, then to East Texas and Dallas. I will be extremely surprised if the UIL ever consolidates the Houston area. I liked the NS-TWHS all H-Town area SC a few years back. Longview is going 4A and I hear Lufkin and Tyler Lee will be the only 5A's in East Texas.

and what happen to John Tyler?.....

[twcpfan1]

Personally, I don't get having teams in the greater Houston area playing in other regions. :eek:


Not enough places in the region to fit us all in.

Plus it's The Woodlands and College Park's punishment for not wanting to be annexed. :D

You could also blame the Cypress people. All they ever do there is make babies. So they've overrun the Region with their population explosion. :D

[EagleDude73]

and what happen to John Tyler?.....

I hear from East Texas sources that they are going to 4A.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Not enough places in the region to fit us all in.

Plus it's The Woodlands and College Park's punishment for not wanting to be annexed. :D

You could also blame the Cypress people. All they ever do there is make babies. So they've overrun the Region with their population explosion. :D

We are planning our campaign for our own region. How would a 5 region playoff bracket look?

[HUM398]

The houston area is a mess...and to be completely honest, i have no idea who is going 5a and who is 4a... Without knowing for a fact what the cutoff is and who is opting to stay 5a, i can't get a clear picture... But here are some of my theories.

1. Humble ISD could move back to region 2 for the first time since the 80's.

2.New Caney and Caney Creek could possible go 5a and join 15-5a.

3. SBISD will join Aleif ISD, and Jesuit will join them to form a new 19-5a.

4. Aldine schools could move back to a district with Humble ISD, Channelview or NS.

after that im completely stumped.

[okt0ber]

We would love to have them, nothing like making the toughest district even tougher

that's a laugh.

[okt0ber]

The houston area is a mess...and to be completely honest, i have no idea who is going 5a and who is 4a... Without knowing for a fact what the cutoff is and who is opting to stay 5a, i can't get a clear picture... But here are some of my theories.

1. Humble ISD could move back to region 2 for the first time since the 80's.

2.New Caney and Caney Creek could possible go 5a and join 15-5a.

3. SBISD will join Aleif ISD, and Jesuit will join them to form a new 19-5a.

4. Aldine schools could move back to a district with Humble ISD, Channelview or NS.

after that im completely stumped.

no.

[slorch]

Personally, I don't get having teams in the greater Houston area playing in other regions. :eek:

same thing for the metroplex. Southlake and ET play in Region 1. Garland and DISD in region II.

It actually makes things very interesting for the Houston area because it creates the chance for a far north school( Spring, Klein, ect) to play a Houston area team in the State Final, such as katy or North Shore.

The dallas area teams could match up in the semifinals, but not the finals.

[LoneRocket]

I think it's time for Spring, Klein and Woodlands schools to rejoin the rest of Houston. Somebody else can be the rejects. :D

Katy and Cypress schools to Region 4?

Post your thoughts on realignment in the Houston area. What changes would you make? Who do you think will be the new District mates? Where will Lufkin end up? etc.

No we had been down that route with the Ft. Bend schools.

[Big Daddy Cool]

4. Aldine schools could move back to a district with Humble ISD, Channelview or NS.

Hell yeah put the old 215 back together again. Don't know if the UIL would do that though as that would be nine team district. With a nine team district that would mean you'd only have one or two non district games wouldn't it? But hey I have a feeling it would make North Shore's run a lot tougher than it is now.

[Redhoss]

same thing for the metroplex. Southlake and ET play in Region 1. Garland and DISD in region II.

It actually makes things very interesting for the Houston area because it creates the chance for a far north school( Spring, Klein, ect) to play a Houston area team in the State Final, such as katy or North Shore.

The dallas area teams could match up in the semifinals, but not the finals.

I still like the idea of switching off regions in the semi's every other year.

[v2the4]

there are too many schools in Houston to fit all of them in 8 districts..that is unless we all want to see 9 or 10 team districts, with only one non district a year..that would not be fun at all....

I think the biggest issues the UIL are going to face will come with the Katy/Alief Schools....the Aldine/spring branch schools, the Fort Bend schools, what to do with Lufkin and Strake Jesuit.

I read in a Seguin area paper that the UIL was refusing to allowing anyone to move themselves up, so if you have a 4A enrollment, your school will be in 4A..that could help things out quite a bit.

[Pearland1]

I also belive that Spring Branch will go back to playing the Alief schools like the old days.

[Tigerjag]

there are too many schools in Houston to fit all of them in 8 districts..that is unless we all want to see 9 or 10 team districts, with only one non district a year..that would not be fun at all....

I think the biggest issues the UIL are going to face will come with the Katy/Alief Schools....the Aldine/spring branch schools, the Fort Bend schools, what to do with Lufkin and Strake Jesuit.
I read in a Seguin area paper that the UIL was refusing to allowing anyone to move themselves up, so if you have a 4A enrollment, your school will be in 4A..that could help things out quite a bit.

jes - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em. ::sigh::

[v2the4]

if SB and Alief are back together, then Strake will be with them, making that an eight team district.

Who will the UIL put the six Katy 5A schools with? Cy Fair to the north and Fort Bend to the south both have too many. They can put Richmond Foster there with the Katy schools to keep that district at seven schools, but there are way too many 5A high schools in Houston for that to happen.

If the ISD athlethic directors didnt have their panties all up in a bunch, then they could group schools by area instead of by ISD.....Bush High and Travis High in Fort Bend are much closer to Cinco then they are to some of their own ISD counterparts. that would make sense travel wise for the other sports played on campus like basketball, volleyball, softball and baseball....I think the 5 to 10 mile ride from Travis to Cinco is better than the 25-35 mile, hour long ride Travis has out to Hightower or Willowridge.

[2ManyExperts]

24-5A possible changes......Pearland(Dawson),Alvin(Manvel), Friendswood, Dickinson, moving in.....G-Ball moving down???

[HUM398]

Hell yeah put the old 215 back together again. Don't know if the UIL would do that though as that would be nine team district. With a nine team district that would mean you'd only have one or two non district games wouldn't it? But hey I have a feeling it would make North Shore's run a lot tougher than it is now.

With NS in the district with Aldine and Humble...it look something like this.

NS
Humble
Atascocita
Kingwood
IKE
Nimtiz
Mac
Aldine

That makes an 8 team district... I wouldn't mind it at all, for several reasons... Humble and NS game could be the making of a classic Regular season fight...and travel since, Every School is easily accessible from beltway 8..(Exception of Kingwood, but its only a 15 minute drive from Beltway 8, and 59... Other then that, its fairly sensible (which makes it even more unlikely...)

[EagleDude73]

With NS in the district with Aldine and Humble...it look something like this.

NS
Humble
Atascocita
Kingwood
IKE
Nimtiz
Mac
Aldine

That makes an 8 team district... I wouldn't mind it at all, for several reasons... Humble and NS game could be the making of a classic Regular season fight...and travel since, Every School is easily accessible from beltway 8..(Exception of Kingwood, but its only a 15 minute drive from Beltway 8, and 59... Other then that, its fairly sensible (which makes it even more unlikely...)

I've heard from Lufkin sources that New Caney is going 5A. What do you do with them? Lufkin is generally pretty informative and ends up being right.

[cmore]

I also belive that Spring Branch will go back to playing the Alief schools like the old days.


Man Law Rule #1 for 2008= No signatures are allowed that read =2001 REGIONAL CHAMPIONS or
2006 REGIONAL CHAMPIONS, etc.. there are no such things. Only state chamionships are legit.This means YOU Pearland1.lol,lol,lol.

[twhfan#1]

1st thing to realize --- there is NO consoladation of a metro area into a region ( put all of metro Houston into a region , etc ) --UIL doesnt do alignment that way --in avery short summary -this is what happens :

In a perfect world there would be 32 eight team districts in a classification = 256 schools. That allows 4 regions of 8 districts each.So the UIL list the top 256 enrollments then follow this procedure :

1. Start in far west Texas ( El Paso ) & assign 8 schools in district 1
2. Then work their way east & north toward Ft Worth until 8 districts assigned --- that is preliminary Region I
3. Then start with Ft Worth and work way east & south until 8 more districts filled ( preliminary Region II ) --and so on till all 256 schools assigned.
4. Then they start tweaking until all 256 schools assigned.
5. Then take into account schools ALLOWED to play up ( at least 8 schools in an ISD or extreme travel ) and replace a like number of the smaller of the original 256.
6. Then start ussing a LITTLE common sense ( yes believe it or not UIL does TRY ) by droipping some schools or combining others in adistrict --
7. Then reconfigure to 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , and even 10 districts to make it a little more sensible for travel and so forth -- that usually drops the number of schools to about 240 something --the resulting smallest school is the 5A cutoff number --- not some magical number the UIL determines in advance
8 Repeat process for 4a or so forth

Bottom line -- if there were 16 --5A DISTRICTS ( Approx 128 Schools ) from West Texas to East Texas --then Conroe , Klein & Spring ISD's would be in Region 3 --not region II ---that is why I try to convince people of trying to guess what UIL will do with any school or ISD is pointless --because what happens in Abeline determines what happens to Tomball for example --so until you have a handle of what happens in El Paso , Panhandle , DFW , & East Texas --you have NO clue of what will happen tp north Houston suburbs

[Dynastybegan86]

I don't understand the big deal with what Region your playing in if you have the attitude that you play one game at a time. Play the team in front of you. I really do not understand the debate, it's probably my lack of care for who any of you have to play and how far you travel. I know Katy has travelled to College Station, Lufkin, Tyler, Dallas, Klein, and of course, our home away from home, San Antonio. Is a bus ride that big of deal for the kids? or is it a big deal to the parents? My kids are not in high school yet, but I still travel with the team. I am not trying to be overly argumentative, I truly do not understand. Do the North Houston teams(Klein ISD, The Woodlands schools, etc.) think that by playing in Region 3 that they have a better shot at going further in the playoffs? If you can't beat the best of R2, how are you going to beat the best of R3? Just my .02c. Merry Christmas.

[twcpfan1]

I don't understand the big deal with what Region your playing in if you have the attitude that you play one game at a time. Play the team in front of you. I really do not understand the debate, it's probably my lack of care for who any of you have to play and how far you travel. I know Katy has travelled to College Station, Lufkin, Tyler, Dallas, Klein, and of course, our home away from home, San Antonio. Is a bus ride that big of deal for the kids? or is it a big deal to the parents? My kids are not in high school yet, but I still travel with the team. I am not trying to be overly argumentative, I truly do not understand. Do the North Houston teams(Klein ISD, The Woodlands schools, etc.) think that by playing in Region 3 that they have a better shot at going further in the playoffs? If you can't beat the best of R2, how are you going to beat the best of R3? Just my .02c. Merry Christmas.

Nothing to do with projected playoff success as we do not know from year to year who will be strong. Travel is ok. Personally, I do not mind it. It's just that it would be more fun to be in a region which consists of Houston area teams as the rivalries are more fun that way. Not suggesting that R3 will be any easier. As far as travel goes, I'm sure there are parents and kids who would take the haul from The Woodlands to Katy over the one to Round Rock and vice versa.

[caveman]

Actually they're not. We're in Region 2 with the other stepchildren :D

Knock it off, this is the Brady Bunch.:D
Always did wonder how TWHS was in R2. You have 5 KatyISD school to take too.

[HUM398]

I've heard from Lufkin sources that New Caney is going 5A. What do you do with them? Lufkin is generally pretty informative and ends up being right.

I would assume that New Caney moves to 15-5a, only because it is currently a six team district...Caney Creek is also suppose to go 5a as well... That would make it a 8 team district.

[twcpfan1]

I would assume that New Caney moves to 15-5a, only because it is currently a six team district...Caney Creek is also suppose to go 5a as well... That would make it a 8 team district.

Caney Creek is a CISD school so it will definitely go to wherever the Woodlands schools end up. You could be right about New Caney too. Not sure where Lufkin will end up though.

Other schools to consider are Montgomery, Huntsville and Magnolia West. Not sure what their enrolment numbers will be.

[twhfan#1]

Caney Creek is a CISD school so it will definitely go to wherever the Woodlands schools end up. You could be right about New Caney too. Not sure where Lufkin will end up though.

Other schools to consider are Montgomery, Huntsville and Magnolia West. Not sure what their enrolment numbers will be.


Im pretty sure that Caney Creek does not have the numbers to go 5A --maybe in 2010

[ftballin11]

you should ship the Jusuits over her to the 265 they would never make the playoffs again and pay to get back into Region III

The Jesuits gave us alot more compition than yalls district champ this year and i believe would be in the playoffs consistantly. Due to there coaching. They are getting better and are on there way to being a power. This is coming from a katy fan

[cyfallsbooster2]

I don't understand the big deal with what Region your playing in if you have the attitude that you play one game at a time. Play the team in front of you. I really do not understand the debate, it's probably my lack of care for who any of you have to play and how far you travel. I know Katy has travelled to College Station, Lufkin, Tyler, Dallas, Klein, and of course, our home away from home, San Antonio. Is a bus ride that big of deal for the kids? or is it a big deal to the parents? My kids are not in high school yet, but I still travel with the team. I am not trying to be overly argumentative, I truly do not understand. Do the North Houston teams(Klein ISD, The Woodlands schools, etc.) think that by playing in Region 3 that they have a better shot at going further in the playoffs? If you can't beat the best of R2, how are you going to beat the best of R3? Just my .02c. Merry Christmas.

Have you suddenly taken up drinking?!!! Because you have finally posted something sensible!:D

[cyfallsbooster2]

The Jesuits gave us alot more compition than yalls district champ this year and i believe would be in the playoffs consistantly. Due to there coaching. They are getting better and are on there way to being a power. This is coming from a katy fan

They showed pretty well for a #4 finisher, didn't they.;) I really enjoyed the coaching and the kids' heart, both this year and last. IMO they will not be a "power" until they get more players and more playas. But, they will definitely be a team to prepare for and get up for each year. No matter your opinion of thier being in the UIL, one still must admire the coaching and heart.

[twcpfan1]

Well since DB86 and CFB2 are wanting to interpret my post as having R2 Houston teams v R3 overtones, I'll play along.

I believe that if you match the 7 Houston teams who made the playoffs in R2 with the best 7 teams out of R3 according to rank, we win 6 of them. Only Katy wins their game.

Note that I'm not including all of R2 in the equation. Just the Houston area teams.

[fitz400]

Well since DB86 and CFB2 are wanting to interpret my post as having R2 Houston teams v R3 overtones, I'll play along.

I believe that if you match the 7 Houston teams who made the playoffs in R2 with the best 7 teams out of R3 according to rank, we win 6 of them. Only Katy wins their game.

Note that I'm not including all of R2 in the equation. Just the Houston area teams.

umm no?

[cyfallsbooster2]

Well since DB86 and CFB2 are wanting to interpret my post as having R2 Houston teams v R3 overtones, I'll play along.

I believe that if you match the 7 Houston teams who made the playoffs in R2 with the best 7 teams out of R3 according to rank, we win 6 of them. Only Katy wins their game.

Note that I'm not including all of R2 in the equation. Just the Houston area teams.

Arrgh! (I'm watching Pirates of the Caribean right now.);)

I, and reading DB86's post, do not believe we were doing anything of the such! But, since you bring it up.........I'll take you on that bet.;)

I think it is reversed in the numbers. 6-R3.....1-R2. Very good ball across the north side, no denying. But out here in the West.....we get mean.:D

[twcpfan1]

Arrgh! (I'm watching Pirates of the Caribean right now.);)

I, and reading DB86's post, do not believe we were doing anything of the such! But, since you bring it up.........I'll take you on that bet.;)

I think it is reversed in the numbers. 6-R3.....1-R2. Very good ball across the north side, no denying. But out here in the West.....we get mean.:D

My daughter and I watched 'Atonement' today. Good movie.

[cyfallsbooster2]

My daughter and I watched 'Atonement' today. Good movie.

Saw the previews on that. looks like a good one. Any reviews?

Also, so we don't get jumped on by the real football people.....show me your R2 teams and who you think was R3's top 7 teams. We can compare the 2 sides.;)

[Favpack]

I'm 95% certain Huntsville remains 4A. I'd bet our district remains unchanged CD - we'll see.

[twcpfan1]

Saw the previews on that. looks like a good one. Any reviews?

Also, so we don't get jumped on by the real football people.....show me your R2 teams and who you think was R3's top 7 teams. We can compare the 2 sides.;)

Heres one review.

http://www.kpbs.org/blogs/movies/2007/12/07/atonement/

There are only 7 R2 Houston teams. I'll rank them. (not necessarily according to how they finished in district but how I think they should be ranked at the end of the year)

Westfield
KO
KF
TWCP
TWHS *
Klein *
Conroe

*tie

You can have the final word on this. Not going to change my opinion though. Happy New Year.

edit. Maybe it would be more appropriate for you to name the top 7 R3 teams

[twcpfan1]

I'm 95% certain Huntsville remains 4A. I'd bet our district remains unchanged CD - we'll see.

I tend to agree. Really would not make sense to have Lufkin in any other district, especially with a couple of East Texas schools expected to go to 4A.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Heres one review.

http://www.kpbs.org/blogs/movies/2007/12/07/atonement/

There are only 7 R2 Houston teams. I'll rank them. (not necessarily according to how they finished in district but how I think they should be ranked at the end of the year)

Westfield
KO
KF
TWCP
TWHS *
Klein *
Conroe

*tie

You can have the final word on this. Not going to change my opinion though. Happy New Year.

I'll take it. And Happy New Years to you.

Westfield and Klein Oak I will give you a toss up on. For the others, I think any one of the following beats the rest of your list.

Katy (of course, it is my given).
Clements (apparently pretty good)
Beaumont Westbrook
Pasadena Memorial
Cy Ridge
Stratford
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Strake Jesuit
Eisenhower (not too bad this year)
North Shore (can't forget them!)
Pearland (really don't like thier posters)

I am sure I left a few off my list and they certainly are not listed in ranking order. You may have noticed, I listed several 17-5A teams.;):D

[twcpfan1]

CFB2 - one final thought for 2007.

I believe Falls will be very good in 2008. They exceeded all expectations this year with a very young team. I saw how much better our 2006 underclassmen got in 2007. So I have every reason to believe that the same will apply to your team. Would not be surprised to see you guys win Region and maybe beyond.

[HUM398]

I'll take it. And Happy New Years to you.

Westfield and Klein Oak I will give you a toss up on. For the others, I think any one of the following beats the rest of your list.

Katy (of course, it is my given).
Clements (apparently pretty good)
Beaumont Westbrook
Pasadena Memorial
Cy Ridge
Stratford
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Strake Jesuit
Eisenhower (not too bad this year)
North Shore (can't forget them!)
Pearland (really don't like thier posters)

I am sure I left a few off my list and they certainly are not listed in ranking order. You may have noticed, I listed several 17-5A teams.;):D

Hightower and Humble both are better then Stratford, Cy-Ridge, Cy-Falls,Cy-fair, IKE and Pasadena Memorial.

The fact that they aren't considered as among the Top Houston r3 teams is...well either a oversight or ignorant.

[cyfallsbooster2]

CFB2 - one final thought for 2007.

I believe Falls will be very good in 2008. They exceeded all expectations this year with a very young team. I saw how much better our 2006 underclassmen got in 2007. So I have every reason to believe that the same will apply to your team. Would not be surprised to see you guys win Region and maybe beyond.

Well, at least we have more than something like 2 varsity experienced players returning this next year. Shane will be difficult to replace, but I think a little soph will be able to do it.;) Still got our qb and I think about 3 or 4 OL's. Need to replace the WR's, but saw a few very promising boys for that. Defense.....I think we have about 5 key players coming back. Could be better this next year.;) Keeping the fingers crossed.

Staying on-topic......We have CyWoods joining us this next year. They ate everyone up this year....but, they were basically a Junior aged varsity team playing everyone else's jv teams. They should be good and productive this next year. That will give us 8 teams IN-district. So I think Strake gets moved. Spring Branch teams sounds like the most likely match. Probably better traveling situations for them also. Strake could be very strong in that district.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Hightower and Humble both are better then Stratford, Cy-Ridge, Cy-Falls,Cy-fair, IKE and Pasadena Memorial.

The fact that they aren't considered as among the Top Houston r3 teams is...well either a oversight or ignorant.

Or not being able to win enough games.;)

[whatabeast]

I think Fort Bend becomes the fist ISD to get split up into two different districts, which can lead to any number of scenarios happening. Cy-Fair will probably stay as its own district. Almost anything could happen to Katy ISD they seem to be the toughest decision in Region III considering they have 6 schools. Where the Beaumont Schools go could also solve the problem. Jesuit isn't really a problem, unlike most believe, because they can go where ever one more school is needed, they will probably end up with spring branch and alief.

[StrakeJesuit1990]

jes - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em. ::sigh::

Burn.

[Dynastybegan86]

I'll take it. And Happy New Years to you.

Westfield and Klein Oak I will give you a toss up on. For the others, I think any one of the following beats the rest of your list.

Katy (of course, it is my given).
Clements (apparently pretty good)
Beaumont Westbrook
Pasadena Memorial
Cy Ridge
Stratford
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Strake Jesuit
Eisenhower (not too bad this year)
North Shore (can't forget them!)
Pearland (really don't like thier posters)

I am sure I left a few off my list and they certainly are not listed in ranking order. You may have noticed, I listed several 17-5A teams.;):D

Are you kidding CFB2?:confused: 12 against 7 doesn't seem fair:D

Top 7 R3
Katy
Northshore
Pas. Memorial
FB Hightower
CyRidge
IKE
Strake

Now match them up with CavDad's picks:

Katy vs Spring Westfield
Northshore vs Klien Oak
Pas Mem vs Klien Forest
FB HT vs CP
CyRidge vs TWHS
IKE vs Klien
Strake vs Conroe

Pick'em!! I'd say there is 6 good football games and 1 barn burner!

R3 comes out on top anyway you match it up!!:notworthy

[Dynastybegan86]

Burn.

Simmer!;)

[78 Spartan]

I think Fort Bend becomes the fist ISD to get split up into two different districts, which can lead to any number of scenarios happening. Cy-Fair will probably stay as its own district. Almost anything could happen to Katy ISD they seem to be the toughest decision in Region III considering they have 6 schools. Where the Beaumont Schools go could also solve the problem. Jesuit isn't really a problem, unlike most believe, because they can go where ever one more school is needed, they will probably end up with spring branch and alief.

Interesting about splitting FBISD into two districts. In fact, you could argue that 1/2 of FB could be paired with Alief and Strake to make a district, leaving SBISD with Aldine and avoiding the north Houston problem.

Assuming you are right and SBISD is paired with Alief, that makes seven schools. Katy ISD would have six schools. Why wouldn't Strake then be put in the Katy league to give them seven? Are there any other 1s or 2s that could be added in? Any chance either of the Richmond/Rosenberg schools would be 5A?

[82 5A State Champs]

The houston area is a mess...and to be completely honest, i have no idea who is going 5a and who is 4a... Without knowing for a fact what the cutoff is and who is opting to stay 5a, i can't get a clear picture... But here are some of my theories.

1. Humble ISD could move back to region 2 for the first time since the 80's.

2.New Caney and Caney Creek could possible go 5a and join 15-5a.

3. SBISD will join Aleif ISD, and Jesuit will join them to form a new 19-5a.

4. Aldine schools could move back to a district with Humble ISD, Channelview or NS.

after that im completely stumped.

If that were to happen, then what would you do with the Baytown schools from 21-5A and Beaumont West Brook and PA Memorial?

[whatabeast]

Interesting about splitting FBISD into two districts. In fact, you could argue that 1/2 of FB could be paired with Alief and Strake to make a district, leaving SBISD with Aldine and avoiding the north Houston problem.

Assuming you are right and SBISD is paired with Alief, that makes seven schools. Katy ISD would have six schools. Why wouldn't Strake then be put in the Katy league to give them seven? Are there any other 1s or 2s that could be added in? Any chance either of the Richmond/Rosenberg schools would be 5A?

Well geographically it would make more sense to put Strake, Alief and SBISD in one district and then say the 2 or 3 northern most Fort Bend Schools and put them with Katy.

From what ive heard Lamar Consolidated and Foster will be 5a. Theres also rumors that both Willowridge and Marshall may go 4a. If Willowridge and Marshall go to 4a then FBISD would probably stay its own district with 8 schools as far as 5a goes. Theres not enough districts for the number of teams in the area.

[HUM398]

If that were to happen, then what would you do with the Baytown schools from 21-5A and Beaumont West Brook and PA Memorial?

when i originally wrote that, i still heard that Lee was going 4a...but i have heard otherwise...The Golden Triangle schools could very well end up in 22-5a and the Laporte and Deer park looking else where.

right now...i just say this...i have no freaking idea.

I assume it will stay the same.

[Oiler99]

from what i hear pearland is the odd man out from 24-5, witht eh addition of Clear Springs and dickinson, i hear pearlands might get kicked back to the pasadena district... but wit all the new schools joinin the %a ranks in houston this should be a big shake up come re-alignment time.

[78 Spartan]

Well geographically it would make more sense to put Strake, Alief and SBISD in one district and then say the 2 or 3 northern most Fort Bend Schools and put them with Katy.

From what ive heard Lamar Consolidated and Foster will be 5a. Theres also rumors that both Willowridge and Marshall may go 4a. If Willowridge and Marshall go to 4a then FBISD would probably stay its own district with 8 schools as far as 5a goes. Theres not enough districts for the number of teams in the area.


If Lamar and Foster go to 5A, you'd put them with the Katy schools and that would allow you to pair Alief and Strake with the SBISD schools. That is, assuming that all four of them stay in 5A, which is expected but not assured at this point.

If you drop W'ridge and Marshall to 4A, then FBISD keeps it's own district. Then the question is where does Aldine go, if you pair them with Humble/Kingwood/Atascocita and maybe New Caney that makes a district.

So that means Bmt/PA/Baytown would need to be paired with North Shore and Channelview plus hmmmmm.

It really does create a domino effect and of course at the end of the day, some folks get royally jobbed.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Push more into R2 and add Lufkin to a closer district.

[Alurista]

Well geographically it would make more sense to put Strake, Alief and SBISD in one district and then say the 2 or 3 northern most Fort Bend Schools and put them with Katy.

From what ive heard Lamar Consolidated and Foster will be 5a. Theres also rumors that both Willowridge and Marshall may go 4a. If Willowridge and Marshall go to 4a then FBISD would probably stay its own district with 8 schools as far as 5a goes. Theres not enough districts for the number of teams in the area.

LC and Foster do not have 5A numbers. If the UIL takes the enrollment of the top 260 schools, then they may be 5A.

Willowridge has 4A numbers, but FBISD has opted them up using the "8-team rule".

Houston will have at LEAST 10 districts, but more than likely it will be 11.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I had breakfast this morning with a FB coach. He told me that it was up to the FBISD superintendent as to Marshall and Willowridge playing 4a 0r 5a and not the UIL. More than likely the school district will play them at 5a. He also said that the UIL could ask FBISD not to play them at 5a. He said if push comes to shove with neither side budging, then legal action could be taken. He told me the UIL would likely lose.

He compared the UIL to the NCAA and cited several examples of both organizations losing in squabbles they had in trying to force their agenda. For the most part he said, the UIL always has their way, except in this particular issue.

[Pearland1]

I just read that Straford will drop to 4A.


Deerpark and La porte are moving out and Pearland is coming back with Pasadena and Northshore.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I just read that Straford will drop to 4A.


Deerpark and La porte are moving out and Pearland is coming back with Pasadena and Northshore.Do you have a link?

[Tigerjag]

Do you have a link?

You've got a link to the Katy board, right? 'cause that's the only place I've seen this one. :D

(Wonder what name Pearland uses over there?...)

[KatyTigerDad0407]

(Wonder what name Pearland uses over there?...)I saw that posted on there. I thought Pearland1 had read it somewhere else and I wanted to look at his source.

[Tigerjag]

I saw that posted on there. I thought Pearland1 had read it somewhere else and I wanted to look at his source.

I'd like to see a link too, if it's anywhere else. Oldtiger has some good SBISD contacts, though.

[Pearland1]

its posted on TexasPrep there is an article about the changes.

[forest99]

Caney Creek is a CISD school so it will definitely go to wherever the Woodlands schools end up. You could be right about New Caney too. Not sure where Lufkin will end up though.

Other schools to consider are Montgomery, Huntsville and Magnolia West. Not sure what their enrolment numbers will be.

ive seen the numbers turned into UIL, caney creek will remain 4A with montgomery, huntsville, and magnolia west. new caney will be 5A

[EagleDude73]

I just read that Straford will drop to 4A.


Deerpark and La porte are moving out and Pearland is coming back with Pasadena and Northshore.

Moving out to where? The Gulf of Mexico or possibly back with Baytown schools. This would give DP a very late Christmas present, who did they payoff to get away from NS? Maybe DP and LP with Lake schools?:puke

[78 Spartan]

If Stratford goes to 4A and Northbrook stays in 5A, you will have the world's best argument why re-alignment should be more than just a pure headcounting exercise.

What is needed is a more subtle measure that captures not just pure enrollment, but enrollment continuity. When you have kids coming in / going out the revolving door at places like Northbrook, it's just dang near impossible to ask them to compete with similarly-sized schools that have a much more stable student population.

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I hear the rumors about Stratford, also. If we were the only SBISD school to move down to 4A, we'd be an orphan school geographically. Not sure whether we'd end up in an HISD district to reduce travel, or a far-flung district to create some semblance of competitiveness for our programs.

Depending on where we'd land, it could be absolutely horrible news for baseball, for Stratford's women's sports programs, plus the "country club" sports (tennis, golf, swimming, etc.).

I'm praying for a better result than that.

[HUM398]

If Stratford goes to 4A and Northbrook stays in 5A, you will have the world's best argument why re-alignment should be more than just a pure headcounting exercise.

What is needed is a more subtle measure that captures not just pure enrollment, but enrollment continuity. When you have kids coming in / going out the revolving door at places like Northbrook, it's just dang near impossible to ask them to compete with similarly-sized schools that have a much more stable student population.

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I hear the rumors about Stratford, also. If we were the only SBISD school to move down to 4A, we'd be an orphan school geographically. Not sure whether we'd end up in an HISD district to reduce travel, or a far-flung district to create some semblance of competitiveness for our programs.

Depending on where we'd land, it could be absolutely horrible news for baseball, for Stratford's women's sports programs, plus the "country club" sports (tennis, golf, swimming, etc.).

I'm praying for a better result than that.

I have a source that works with the UIL, that claims that Stratford will move down to 4a...and that Humble will move with the Aldine schools...He says he is about 85% sure...

again, just a rumor. but he is usually really reliable.

[JKS]

I will be shocked if Fort Bend does not have a single ten team district. They will play one non-district game and then the battle begins.

HISD is the interesting one to me. What do you do with Scarborough if they opt 3A and the others don't? Alief, Spring Branch, and Aldine are all interesting as well. I could see Spring Branch and Alief together. Add Strake in and there is your district.

Pearland almost certainly leaves 24-5A. The question is does LP/DP leave 23-5A or do the Stangs leave. My guess is LP/DP go with Baytown and the boys from the East.

One last prediction. Watch out for Clear Springs in 24-5A. It is so tough for new schools to compete, but I believe they will at least be competitive.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I want the UIL to justify 4 playoff teams from a 6 team district. I can see it in FBISD with 10 teams, but jeez.

[Brushpile Bill]

I have a source that works with the UIL, that claims that Stratford will move down to 4a...and that Humble will move with the Aldine schools...He says he is about 85% sure...

again, just a rumor. but he is usually really reliable.


Got an email from the School outlining the possibility of Stratford going 4-A. I think you're odds are about right. As Spartan 78 said there's no good news in this scenario for Stratford. Not paired up with the rest of SBISD, bad geography for any 4A Districts, bad match up for many sports. I bet they keep the Memorial game, but move it to pre-District which is also a shame.

[HUM398]

Got an email from the School outlining the possibility of Stratford going 4-A. I think you're odds are about right. As Spartan 78 said there's no good news in this scenario for Stratford. Not paired up with the rest of SBISD, bad geography for any 4A Districts, bad match up for many sports. I bet they keep the Memorial game, but move it to pre-District which is also a shame.

Its a shame, because Stratford just started to come up as a program...and competes very well with the bigger schools...Look at the IKE game, 19-14...thats impressive with a school with such small numbers, and no where near the talent of IKE.

From what i understand, its because the UIL wont accept petitions this time around.

[Alurista]

Its a shame, because Stratford just started to come up as a program...and competes very well with the bigger schools...Look at the IKE game, 19-14...thats impressive with a school with such small numbers, and no where near the talent of IKE.

From what i understand, its because the UIL wont accept petitions this time around.

The UIL will only accept petitions for schools in 8 team districts (Fort Bend) or for travel concerns. Neither applies to Stratford.

[HUM398]

The UIL will only accept petitions for schools in 8 team districts (Fort Bend) or for travel concerns. Neither applies to Stratford.

Its not what im hearing. But then again, my source didnt go into great detail.

Either way, its not an avenue Stratford can take.

[78 Spartan]

This is all rumor and "informed sources" right now, so who knows where it ends up.

But if the UIL is going to orphan Stratford like that, imagine the district options:

1. In 18-4A with Brenham, Caney Creek, Huntsville, Livingston, Montgomery, Waller, Willis. Lots of travel but probably the best competition we could match up with. Are any of those 18-4A schools moving up to 5A?

2. In 20-4A with Austin, Davis, Reagan, Sharpstown, Waltrip, Washington, Yates. Least amount of travel but wholly incongruent with the sports profile of Stratford. Yates would be the only school on that list that could compete with Stratford in football, and maybe only just barely. We would kick *** in that league in everything but basketball and track. I doubt those schools have much of a women's sports program. What classification changes are forecast for HISD?

3. In 24-4A with Bay City, El Campo, Foster, Terry and Lamar Cons. Still lots of travel but maybe the least-worst combination. This assumes that all three of the Richmond/Rosenberg schools stay in 4A which I hear is in question. Maybe the smaller FBISD schools, Marshall, Willowridge, maybe Bush? would go into this district also?

What a mess. Let's hope they don't make Stratford walk this plank. Again, this argues for a somewhat more subtle methodology than just pure headcounts. Will be amazing if we have to go to 4A but Northbrook stays at 5A.

If we go to 4A, you can count on keeping the Memorial game on the schedule as a non-district game, and probably Spring Woods and Northbrook also just to try to manage costs. Imagine all our non-district games being against SBISD schools and all our district games being......... yeccchhh.

[78 Spartan]

I will be shocked if Fort Bend does not have a single ten team district. They will play one non-district game and then the battle begins.

Not sure that a complete round robin in district play is absolutely required if they put together a ten team district.

[Pearland1]

I'm against the move of Stratford going to 4A I grew up in Spring Branch and it was a sad day when they close down Spring Branch and I hate to see losing Stratford to 4A let them stay in 5A with all the other Spring Branch Schools.

[JKS]

Not sure that a complete round robin in district play is absolutely required if they put together a ten team district.

I have been told (admittedly rumor) that Kilgore, et al want every school in the district to play every other school eliminating the possible division type format. I was also told that Willowridge wants to be 5A. I could easily see Stratford 5A despite the numbers.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Willowridge does not want to be 5a. FBISD wants Willowridge to be 5a.

[shslb15]

i personally would be really upset if Stratford were to drop down to 4a... having cousins and my little brother still in the program along with all of their friends that i know over the years, it just kind of stink. I had a long conversation with my little brother, my cousin who started for varsity at guard this year and all of their friends that are all sophomores this year and not one of them wanted to drop to 4a. oh well...

[JKS]

The FANS from Willowridge want to be 4A. The coach and school, I have been told, would rather be 5A. It is more prestigious to be a 5A coach and it is easier to hire good coaches.

[fitz400]

I'll take it. And Happy New Years to you.

Westfield and Klein Oak I will give you a toss up on. For the others, I think any one of the following beats the rest of your list.

Katy (of course, it is my given).
Clements (apparently pretty good)
Beaumont Westbrook
Pasadena Memorial
Cy Ridge
Stratford
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Strake Jesuit
Eisenhower (not too bad this year)
North Shore (can't forget them!)
Pearland (really don't like thier posters)

I am sure I left a few off my list and they certainly are not listed in ranking order. You may have noticed, I listed several 17-5A teams.;):D

When did i slap ur momma?

and i know u must be crazy to put pearland and northshore below eisenhower? Pasadena memorial? Strake? Cy fair?

[t00 playa]

I just read that Straford will drop to 4A.


Deerpark and La porte are moving out and Pearland is coming back with Pasadena and Northshore.


keep deer park and la porte and add pearland:eek:

[Tigerjag]

I'm against the move of Stratford going to 4A I grew up in Spring Branch and it was a sad day when they close down Spring Branch and I hate to see losing Stratford to 4A let them stay in 5A with all the other Spring Branch Schools.

Wow Pearland I agree with that entire sentence I grew up in Spring Branch and went to Spring Branch High and it was a sad day Stratford should stay in 5A Northbrook should go 4A like 78Spartan said.

/outtabreathnow


;)