Hello

[jakerz]

I am in another atmosphere at the moment. A thought has just come to my head:

What if, humans were actually controlled? To the point that something makes the decisions in our brain, but not actually a person thats controlling just God as a whole, and it decides every move to be ever made in human kind. This could explain God being omnipotent and him knowing "everything". He would only be able to know "everything" if he decided it himself.

What do you think?

[jtk1519]

I think getting high on a Tuesday reeks of unemployment.

[jakerz]

I think getting high on a Tuesday reeks of unemployment.

Getting high on a Tuesday means peace. The job part...don't you know I work from home! Ask oct0ber about my skillz.

[Firebird]

A few of John Calvin's more extreme disciples beat you to this idea already. By a few hundred years.

[slorch]

I am in another atmosphere at the moment. A thought has just come to my head:

What if, humans were actually controlled? To the point that something makes the decisions in our brain, but not actually a person thats controlling just God as a whole, and it decides every move to be ever made in human kind. This could explain God being omnipotent and him knowing "everything". He would only be able to know "everything" if he decided it himself.

What do you think?

If you think God controls us, wait till you get married...:rolleyes::D

[Firebird]

If you think God controls us, wait till you get married...:rolleyes::D

I am controlled through the radio waves being broadcast to my fillings.

[jtk1519]

Getting high on a Tuesday means peace. The job part...don't you know I work from home! Ask oct0ber about my skillz.

I work from home too (skillz are questionable) and all I do is eat too many gummy bears.

[jakerz]

A few of John Calvin's more extreme disciples beat you to this idea already. By a few hundred years.

Can you explain? Who is John Calvin and his disciples?

I'm extremely interested

[jakerz]

I work from home too (skillz are questionable) and all I do is eat too many gummy bears.

I knew KT2000 paid you for your services.

*******

[RedRage00]

I am in another atmosphere at the moment. A thought has just come to my head:

What if, humans were actually controlled? To the point that something makes the decisions in our brain, but not actually a person thats controlling just God as a whole, and it decides every move to be ever made in human kind. This could explain God being omnipotent and him knowing "everything". He would only be able to know "everything" if he decided it himself.

What do you think?

Lay off the weed! :p

[jtk1519]

Can you explain? Who is John Calvin and his disciples?

I'm extremely interested

He played 3rd base for the Brooklyn Bridegrooms in the late 19th century.

[Firebird]

He played 3rd base for the Brooklyn Bridegrooms in the late 19th century.

16th Century Protestant theologian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calvin

A few of his followers got really carried away with the element of predestination in his theology and ultimately reached the conclusion that God actively intervenes to save some people and actively intervenes to make sure others are condemned. From there, it's not too far of a stretch to see how they decided that maybe this free will business is all a bit of a ruse. Traditional Calvinists don't go that far.

You've hit on one of the biggest theological disputes within Christianity, which is the relationship between foreknowledge and free will. Are they mutually exlusisve?

Somehow, I don't think Jakerz is cut out to be a hyper-Calvinist though.

[jtk1519]

16th Century Protestant theologian.

Liar! He hit .318 with 15 homeruns in 1891.

[jakerz]

16th Century Protestant theologian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calvin

A few of his followers got really carried away with the element of predestination in his theology and ultimately reached the conclusion that God actively intervenes to save some people and actively intervenes to make sure others are condemned. From there, it's not too far of a stretch to see how they decided that maybe this free will business is all a bit of a ruse. Traditional Calvinists don't go that far.

You've hit on one of the biggest theological disputes within Christianity, which is the relationship between foreknowledge and free will. Are they mutually exlusisve?

Somehow, I don't think Jakerz is cut out to be a hyper-Calvinist though.

Their views on God are a little too Catholic for me.

You've hit on one of the biggest theological disputes within Christianity, which is the relationship between foreknowledge and free will. Are they mutually exlusisve?

What do the Christians who believe that free will is the ultimate luxery in life? This doesn't correlate with the Bible at all. I'd rate Christianity about 3rd in the actual back bone, but the circular reasoning that goes on in the text over and over and over is just a little bit too much for me. :)

[slorch]

Can you explain? Who is John Calvin and his disciples?

I'm extremely interested

for some reason this response made me LMAO!!!

I guess there's nothing about Calvin on the TAKS test, is there?

[Firebird]

Their views on God are a little too Catholic for me.



What do the Christians who believe that free will is the ultimate luxery in life? This doesn't correlate with the Bible at all. I'd rate Christianity about 3rd in the actual back bone, but the circular reasoning that goes on in the text over and over and over is just a little bit too much for me. :)

Your altered state is making your posting exceptionally difficult to decipher. I have read your last three statements three times and still do not understand what you are trying to say.

[jakerz]

Your altered state is making your posting exceptionally difficult to decipher. I have read your last three statements three times and still do not understand what you are trying to say.

Are you serious? I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. It makes perfect sense to me...give me 30 minutes or so.

My interest on this is great and if there was an answer I could agree it would fill a void in my thinking process.

[slorch]

Your altered state is making your posting exceptionally difficult to decipher. I have read your last three statements three times and still do not understand what you are trying to say.

hey dumb:Censor:ss, hit the bong first, then read...:D

[Firebird]

Are you serious? I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. It makes perfect sense to me...give me 30 minutes or so.

My interest on this is great and if there was an answer I could agree it would fill a void in my thinking process.

Serious:

What do the Christians who believe that free will is the ultimate luxery in life?

I'd love to answer this but I don't see the question there.

I'd rate Christianity about 3rd in the actual back bone, but the circular reasoning that goes on in the text over and over and over is just a little bit too much for me

3rd as compared to what? What backbone? What circular reasoning?

[jtk1519]

I think bird is trying to have an intellectual debate with somebody who is high.

[TheBigPeach]

I am in another atmosphere at the moment. A thought has just come to my head:

What if, humans were actually controlled? To the point that something makes the decisions in our brain, but not actually a person thats controlling just God as a whole, and it decides every move to be ever made in human kind. This could explain God being omnipotent and him knowing "everything". He would only be able to know "everything" if he decided it himself.

What do you think?

.....

Lets all just be pastafarians!

http://www.venganza.org/

[Firebird]

I think bird is trying to have an intellectual debate with somebody who is high.

Not a debate, a conversation. I don't discriminate.

[slorch]

Jakers on the phone to F'bird, " You know who this is, ain't it?"

Firebird to himself, ":eek::Censor::confused::confused::D"

[jakerz]

Not a debate, a conversation. I don't discriminate.

Alright let me give it another try

The brain is controlled by God. God means nature or everything not an actual prophet or a man. If so, the only purpose of life could be to have as much happiness as possible, even if theoretically happiness isn't real if it's pre-determined.

[jakerz]

Jakers on the phone to F'bird, " You know who this is, ain't it?"

Firebird to himself, ":eek::Censor::confused::D"

I don't "stoned dial". :mad:

[slorch]

I don't "stoned dial". :mad:

dude, i'm just joking.

Your post was hard to decypher. I'm actually dissappointed the Firebird is being so discreet. I think you have many more funny posts in your current state...:D

[jakerz]

dude, i'm just joking.

Your post was hard to decypher. I'm actually dissappointed the Firebird is being so discreet. I think you have many more funny posts in your current state...:D

I know you're joking grasshoppa.

Don't you know it's impossible to be the so called state of "mad" when you're high? :notworthy:D

[slorch]

I know you're joking grasshoppa.

Don't you know it's impossible to be the so called state of "mad" when you're high? :notworthy:D

No, I evidently have as much to learn about MJ as you do religeous history. Unfortunately, i will never experience your knowledge of MJ, albeit, a personal choice of mine.

[jtk1519]

This thread makes me miss drunk farmer. jtk is going to bed now because jtk is sad. :cry

[jakerz]

No, I evidently have as much to learn about MJ as you do religeous history. Unfortunately, i will never experience your knowledge of MJ, albeit, a personal choice of mine.

Religious history is not important to me. I don't seek religious answers - only divine truth not about the key to life but the key to the brain. I believe an answer can be found

[slorch]

Religious history is not important to me. I don't seek religious answers - only divine truth not about the key to life but the key to the brain. I believe an answer can be found

key to brain might be broken. Sometimes you need to use a sledgehammer...:D

[BDB]

i always hated the "philosiphisers" when i was stoned....... i don't want to have to answer why "shooting a man is illegal, but giving him high blood pressure isn't"....... LET ME BE PUTO!

then again, in my inebriated state i'm usually not sittin at my computer on a tuesday.

[jakerz]

No, I evidently have as much to learn about MJ as you do religeous history. Unfortunately, i will never experience your knowledge of MJ, albeit, a personal choice of mine.

I'm certain you do 2 worser substances on a daily basis, if not more

[jakerz]

i always hated the "philosiphisers" when i was stoned....... i don't want to have to answer why "shooting a man is illegal, but giving him high blood pressure isn't"....... LET ME BE PUTO!

then again, in my inebriated state i'm usually not sittin at my computer on a tuesday.

You must be smoking for the wrong reasons. Don't smoke to just get messed up or to get rid of your problems, it holds a higher responsibility.

[slorch]

You must be smoking for the wrong reasons. Don't smoke to just get messed up or to get rid of your problems, it holds a higher responsibility.

when you finish that bag, get back with us. You are starting to give farmer a run for his money, only his sentences were still logical, while being composed of phonetically spelled words.

[dragonsdaddy]

I think bird is trying to have an intellectual debate with somebody who is high.

lol. capt obviousman. dang this is funny. i'm having flashbacks to a much younger dragonsdaddy.

[TulsaHale74]

If you think God controls us, wait till you get married...:rolleyes::D
Then you understand the The Man Song.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Y0I91rubg)

[BDB]

You must be smoking for the wrong reasons. Don't smoke to just get messed up or to get rid of your problems, it holds a higher responsibility.

no, you are just gullable if you think that weed is gonna make you this super-thinker and open up a whole new reality.

that's the THC talkin man.

[dragonsdaddy]

no, you are just gullable if you think that weed is gonna make you this super-thinker and open up a whole new reality.

that's the THC talkin man.

let's choose not to go there again.

[BDB]

let's choose not to go there again.

YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME!!! :mad:

jk, i'm just sayin that alcohol and weed have the same effect on me. except i can't control myself with alcohol.

[dragonsdaddy]

YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME!!! :mad:

jk, i'm just sayin that alcohol and weed have the same effect on me. except i can't control myself with alcohol.

and as jake so inelegantly proved, thc doesn't make one any smarter, except in one's own eyes.

[BDB]

and as jake so inelegantly proved, thc doesn't make one any smarter, except in one's own eyes.
and i agree with him there..... till he had that little "a higher responsibility" line.

[slorch]

I'm certain you do 2 worser substances on a daily basis, if not more

worser-shire sauce?:D

Houston air may be one of them...

Customer passing gas on the grocery aisle is the other?

[dragonsdaddy]

QUOTE=slorch;700834]worser-shire sauce?:D

Houston air may be one of them...

Customer passing gas on the grocery aisle is the other?[/QUOTE]

back in the day, certain prevailing winds from the pasadena area smelled remarkably like a-1 sauce. not exactly what you'd choose to inhale during gassers.

[jakerz]

worser-shire sauce?:D

Houston air may be one of them...

Customer passing gas on the grocery aisle is the other?

I debated my post for about 5 minutes. I was trying to figure out if worser was actually a word

[jakerz]

no, you are just gullable if you think that weed is gonna make you this super-thinker and open up a whole new reality.

that's the THC talkin man.

I don't think you can say it's the "THC" talking, it would actually be the increased amount of oxygen in your brain talking.

I don't want to open up a new reality but I want to have help in understanding this one...and weed changes my thought process and gives me a different point of view on all world issues. I may not find an answer when in my "veggie" state but it does help

[JMSFan]

YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME!!! :mad:

jk, i'm just sayin that alcohol and weed have the same effect on me. except i can't control myself with alcohol.

So its the same thing...only different.

[jakerz]

YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME!!! :mad:

jk, i'm just sayin that alcohol and weed have the same effect on me. except i can't control myself with alcohol.

I don't think it's humanly possible for weed and alcohol to have the same effect on your. That's like saying Advil and Midol have the same effect :confused:

[BDB]

So its the same thing...only different.

both f*** me up, except with mary jane i am comre controlled and i am aware of my surroundings. with alcohol i am sloshy and all over the place.