Euless Trinity Taking Vicims/southlake's Next?

[trojanman]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................

[BAMF cowboy]

...okay

does the haka score touchdowns for you?

[drgnbkr]

Whats with all the caps..are you insecure or what?

[TrojanHorse03]

Theres one thing I absolutely agree with u and thats we have Irving, SGP, and Mac still left to go and thats why everything else you have said is irrelevant, especially calling out SLC. We dont want to look like the LV fans with egg all over r faces. I'm telling you having had an opportunity to observe tape and in person performance the 3 best teams on r schedule r the ones we r about to face. Trust me forget about Desoto, REL, Midland Lee, and the rest of the bottom feeders of 6-5a.

[drgnbkr]

He's new at this...he'll get a breath of air in a minute & think..wow, what did I just do?...... :eek:

[LeanderLions3033]

Euless Trinity Taking Vicims/southlake's Next?

Nothing against Trinity, but i'd put alot of money on SLC. I dont think Trinity has seen a defense like Carrol's yet.

[trojanman]

i may be new.... but i wont regret........ i'll just work harder and bring it better so i can back what ever comes out of my mouth up........

[drgnbkr]

You blowin chunks or what?... :o

[TrojanHorse03]

No believe me its GREAT to have this enthusiam for our team and the communty is one of the teams greatest allies. But a GREAT TEAM is not defined by what it its supposed to do or whats its done through 7 weeks. We have 8 more to go. And let me tell you this one of the most common editorials involve the weekly overrated/underated ones.
Overrated: Beating Desoto, Midland Lee, Tyler Lee, Emmanuel Moody High, Irving Nimitz, Grand Prairie, and L.D. who? all teams not even in our league.
Underated: Are last 3 games as opposed to r first 3 games, finishing STRONG, winning a trap door game at Irving and after Bell, beating perhaps this year's MacArthur in SGP, and beating the defending district champs in Irving MacArthur.
Priceless: Being 10-0 going in to the playoffs for the first time under Coach.

[dragons08]

let him boost his ego, talk trash, do what else he wants, but when/if we do play trinity, carroll will come to play, and all this crap you talk will have NO EFFECT ON US, so go ahead talk it up

[TrojanHorse03]

Eh. I no its normal to assume this but just because Trojanman is very excited about the trojans doesnt mean his intentions r to be disrespectful

[loboman]

We dont have eggs on our face. Dont let some of the LV idiots that come on here make us all look bad, especially our athletes that never gave up and busted their butts for a very hard fought win. We were tested on Friday, but we never gave up.

[drgnbkr]

I say.."Brang it".... :D

[trojanman]

no i'm just saying............southlake is good.... one of the best.........i want them to know that when the trojans roll in to town were not gonna be a blowout or a pushover........... were going to be equal or better...... so be ready cuz we are............!!!!!!!!!!!!...............

[ALLSTAR]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................





ya know, this guy has got a great education at trinity... cant even spell HYPE...

[TrojanHorse03]

hey i totally agree with u loboman, and anytime slc!!!! preferrably after week 10 though :D

[drgnbkr]

He can definately use that CAP button though!..... :D

[dragons08]

ya know, this guy has got a great education at trinity... cant even spell HYPE...
lets not go to the whole spelling thing, they'll be like education at carroll sucks, look at d08 he cant spell..

[TrojanHorse03]

hey this is a message board no one uses perfect spelling and grammar. Hey you didn't capitalize the first letter of ur sentence among other things lol.

[dragons08]

He can definately use that CAP button though!..... :D
but how it goes on and off, i wonder if its shift?

[TrojanHorse03]

besides pointing out spelling errors is below you. this is a football board if ur going to roast him do it based of ur opinions of the gridiron.

[trojanman]

my words to ya'll mean the same to me..... NOTHING AT ALL..........but know that when words become reality they become better then ever.... dont get me wrong i respect southlake with the upmost..... but i do mean business when i say THE END IS NEAR.......FOR SOMEONE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WUTZ UP WIT IT..........Carroll.......

[DragonWatcher]

My problem with you Trojanman is where were you last year when your team was good. My uncle is a coach at Trinity so Trinity is my second favorite team that I've always cheered for. Many of you Trinity fans seem like bandwagon fans, that have just appeared this year. Your program has always had a storied history, yet there wasnt a single one of you last year. And know many of you come going SLC is afraid of us, they don't wanna play a real football team. It doesn't matter how you look at it, SLC has been winning titles when you haven't so be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

[dragons08]

My problem with you Trojanman is where were you last year when your team was good. My uncle is a coach at Trinity so Trinity is my second favorite team that I've always cheered for. Many of you Trinity fans seem like bandwagon fans, that have just appeared this year. Your program has always had a storied history, yet there wasnt a single one of you last year. And know many of you come going SLC is afraid of us, they don't wanna play a real football team. It doesn't matter how you look at it, SLC has been winning titles when you haven't so be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
DW, just let them keep talking trash, we'll see who has the last laugh

[trojanman]

be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
im waiting........................................... .....for the last laugh comes to he who works the hardest.......

[DragonWatcher]

im waiting........................................... .....for the last laugh comes to he who works the hardest.......

That's all you can come up with in response? Nothing about how your not a bandwagon fan? Nothing logistical about how Trinity stacks up to SLC. Your a joke. Who works the hardest? SLC has worked to go the final game three years in a row! Both teams work hard, its who has the most heart and discipline to win the game. The funny thing is you keep saying SLC's gonna get a piece of this and it'll tear them apart. Why don't you leave the game up to the actual players. Your just a nobody fan talking trash on a message board, with nothing to back up your claims, other than horrific gramatical skill and an unnatural fondness for the caps button. You hit the nail on the head when you said "my words mean nothing at all". Quit wasting our time, you were right.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

He's new at this...he'll get a breath of air in a minute & think..wow, what did I just do?...... :eek:

I agree!

Trojanman - you don't need to be starting this type of taunting! My favorite saying is, "It could come back to bite you on the butt!"

[GTown02]

Trinity has a good squad this year, but all this talking and calling out SLC will only lead to trouble...

[DragonFan]

If I look at my calendar correctly I will see that there are 3 more games in the season. All of these games are critical to see who wins the district and what Division that the teams will play in. Trinity plays 2 currently unbeaten teams before they can become District Champs. Trinity will play Div 1 if they qualify for the playoffs, I only say if because nobody has secured a playoff berth yet in any district.

If SLC makes the playoff along with Denton Ryan and Grapevine then there would be the game that you have requested against SLC. If any other teams make to playoffs from 5-5a then Trinity will have to deal with the other great programs in the State.

There is a lot of football to be played and a lot will be learned in the next 3 weeks. I do not think that I would be calling out my victims just yet, you may become one yourself!

[GoOwls]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................

Uhhhhhh......Prozac hasn't been banned yet.....talk to your doctor.......I think you may be due a perscription. Also, put down all sharp objects.

[BigFoot]

but how it goes on and off, i wonder if its shift?
Before you speak about Trinity education, you should review some of SLC's postings. I have noticed that too. However, when people type on here they get in a hurry and even the most educated type quickly and often are not thinking about grammer or spelling....just who can play football better than another.

[raidercheerdad]

Nothing against Trinity, but i'd put alot of money on SLC. I dont think Trinity has seen a defense like Carrol's yet.
Not to disrespect SLC, but I might be tempted to take some of your money because I don't think SLC's D has seen an offense like Trinity yet.(or a defense for that matter)

I wish there was some way they could play this year because I think it would be a great game! I'd travel to any venue to see it. I have friends at Carroll and we've been beaten by Trinity -- great Texas High School Football!

Congrats to Clint -- he had his best game of the year so far!

[TrojanFan4Life]

Not to disrespect SLC, but I might be tempted to take some of your money because I don't think SLC's D has seen an offense like Trinity yet.(or a defense for that matter)

I wish there was some way they could play this year because I think it would be a great game! I'd travel to any venue to see it. I have friends at Carroll and we've been beaten by Trinity -- great Texas High School Football!

Congrats to Clint -- he had his best game of the year so far!


Thanks for the props - I much prefer letting our playing do the talking - ET vs SLC would be a great game! Shame it would come in the first round - however, people shouldn't start counting their chicks before the eggs are hatched - Grapevine still has Richland, Denton Ryan and Colleyville (I am pretty sure that is right) - and they are all good teams!

Trinity still has to beat Irving (there), SGP (home) and IMac (there) - we are getting ready one week at a time - just like everyone else.

Go Trojans!!!!

[DragonFan]

For the last 3 years, I have heard the same thing. SLC has not seen a (fill in the blanks) like (fill in the blanks) yet. It happens everytime someone is trying to compare themselfs to SLC. Everybody in the state CAN beat them, however only 1 5a school has ever done it. These "has not seen" statements have a way of setting someone up for a fall.

[stinger]

Nice comment dragonwatcher...with 28 posts...where were you last year? As everybody agrees, it will, if it happens, be one of the best games this year. I expect both teams to play theirs hearts out. Hopefully, it won't be won by some fluke or ref's call. I have seen that happen to many teams. Let's all just sit back, wait till the smoke clears, and get ready for the play-offs. To everybody: let's stay away from the crap such as worrying about spell-check, caps, grammar, etc. Everybody who has ever posted here has committed many errors. Most of this is because we are anxious to get our opinions on the site before someone else. I am sure you can tell what the poster is trying to say. Just reply and get on with it. Keep the comments as civil as you can and have fun. This CAN be as fun as watching the game. COME ON PLAYOFFS (whomever they include)!

[bleedgreen]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................
just a few things----go ahead and rank yourself right in with the Longview posters who come on here and make theirselves look stupid for making crazy remarks towards SLC........if you are going to post in all caps, make sure that the stuff is spelled correctly, first, and last but not least, where were you last night, trojanman?? i was in desperate need!! had to take a time out and run to the store--that sucked!!........and for the person who said that Longview fans have "egg on their faces"---don't group us all together in that silly-a$$ bracket....OK????? good luck to Trinity and SLC the rest of the way...............

[DragonWatcher]

Nice comment dragonwatcher...with 28 posts...where were you last year? As everybody agrees, it will, if it happens, be one of the best games this year. I expect both teams to play theirs hearts out. Hopefully, it won't be won by some fluke or ref's call. I have seen that happen to many teams. Let's all just sit back, wait till the smoke clears, and get ready for the play-offs. To everybody: let's stay away from the crap such as worrying about spell-check, caps, grammar, etc. Everybody who has ever posted here has committed many errors. Most of this is because we are anxious to get our opinions on the site before someone else. I am sure you can tell what the poster is trying to say. Just reply and get on with it. Keep the comments as civil as you can and have fun. This CAN be as fun as watching the game. COME ON PLAYOFFS (whomever they include)!

Well you see last year I was a player, so I prefered to let the talking happen on the field, not on a message board. This year however I'm just a fan with family on the team.

[toonman]

Thanks for the props - I much prefer letting our playing do the talking - ET vs SLC would be a great game! Shame it would come in the first round - however, people shouldn't start counting their chicks before the eggs are hatched - Grapevine still has Richland, Denton Ryan and Colleyville (I am pretty sure that is right) - and they are all good teams!

Trinity still has to beat Irving (there), SGP (home) and IMac (there) - we are getting ready one week at a time - just like everyone else.

Go Trojans!!!!

Grapevine still has Richland (win) - Southlake (loss) and Colleyville (loss) and will miss out on the Play-offs. At best it will go to a Tie breaker. If Colleyville beats Denton this week, then Grapevine will probably not get to the Play-offs.

[stinger]

If Colleyville beats Denton, does that most likey put SLC in DI or DII? Or are there several other combinations that need to happen? :rolleyes: :confused:

[BigFoot]

Nice comment dragonwatcher...with 28 posts...where were you last year? As everybody agrees, it will, if it happens, be one of the best games this year. I expect both teams to play theirs hearts out. Hopefully, it won't be won by some fluke or ref's call. I have seen that happen to many teams. Let's all just sit back, wait till the smoke clears, and get ready for the play-offs. To everybody: let's stay away from the crap such as worrying about spell-check, caps, grammar, etc. Everybody who has ever posted here has committed many errors. Most of this is because we are anxious to get our opinions on the site before someone else. I am sure you can tell what the poster is trying to say. Just reply and get on with it. Keep the comments as civil as you can and have fun. This CAN be as fun as watching the game. COME ON PLAYOFFS (whomever they include)!
My thoughts exactly. Well said.

[dragonsdaddy]

If Colleyville beats Denton, does that most likey put SLC in DI or DII? Or are there several other combinations that need to happen? :rolleyes: :confused:
if cville beats dr, slc is almost certain to go d-2, as g'vine could only tie at best,and then only by winning vs cville. dr could lose 2 and not go themselves which would make slc d-2 for sure(not likely).

[toonman]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................

You got me thinking with your post, so I thought I would check out the "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" . I visited the www.trinitytrojanfootball.com website and I checked the history of the "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" which dates back to 1976. I really did find a "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" with, ‘No’, read that as ‘Zero’ state championships and only 'One' read that as ‘a single’ state championship appearance in 36 years. In those 36 years; Judson won 5A state 6 times, Permian 4, Katy 3, Midland Lee 3, Plano 3, Lewisville 2, Southlake Carroll 2 and 18 other schools have won 5A one time. I must be missing something as I certainly do not see a "Tradition of Powerhouse Football", what I see is “Never won the Big One”

[SLC fan]

ddad, even if Heritage beats DR, Grapevine would finish ahead of Heritage by beating them. Grapevine would have a 5-2 record while Heritage would have a 4-3 record. However, for SLC to go D1, DR would need to beat Fossil Ridge. Otherwise DR would miss the playoffs.

[outtacontrol]

what a bunch of white boys takin roids'!!!

[TrojanHorse03]

toonman thanx for sumthing to keep in the mental roladex.

[stinger]

You really are "outtacontrol" who are you talking about? Tongans from Trinity are Pacific Islanders, not white boys! You really need to keep this kinda trash talk off this site. You went way too far with the racial talk. A lot of things can be tolerated on this site, but any racial slurrs need to have you banned. Trash talk is one thingou try another, but personal cuts are way over the edge. Why don't you try another forum outtacontrol.

[Butch Fifield]

In those 36 years; Judson won 5A state 6 times, Permian 4, Katy 3, Midland Lee 3, Plano 3, Lewisville 2, Southlake Carroll 2 and 18 other schools have won 5A one time.

Since 1976 would be 39 years. Plano won 4 times, including 1977 which was 4a (biggest classification at the time). Of course they won at A, AA, & AAA before that. Southlake had several more in that time frame I believe when they were at lower classifications.

[Butch Fifield]

Tongans from Trinity are Pacific Islanders, not white boys! You really need to keep this kinda trash talk off this site. You went way too far with the racial talk.

I thought he was talkin about white boys from Southlake. Where does the Tongan thing come from?

[dragonsdaddy]

no butch, i don't think you'll find a plano trophy with a single a on it. we were 2a in 65 and 67(my 7th and 9th grade years) and 3a in 71.

[Butch Fifield]

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the A. I was trying to google it before I made a fool of myself, but couldn't find it.

[DragonWatcher]

Ya he was definately talking about SLC being on roids. All I know is if those skinny recievers from SLC are on roids, they should get thier money back lol. Good god some of you trinity fans continue to amaze me.

[toonman]

You really are "outtacontrol" who are you talking about? Tongans from Trinity are Pacific Islanders, not white boys! You really need to keep this kinda trash talk off this site. You went way too far with the racial talk. A lot of things can be tolerated on this site, but any racial slurrs need to have you banned. Trash talk is one thingou try another, but personal cuts are way over the edge. Why don't you try another forum outtacontrol.

I think outtacontrol's comments were directed at Colleyville Heritage, who did have the situation with the items he referred to. outtacontrol's is based in Euless, so will not be trashing his own team. Colleyville could potentially stop the anticipated SLC v ET play off game.

[dragonsdaddy]

every school has their brainless supporters. ignoring them is a fine policy.

[poppy]

ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................


yeah...and all those state championships....
slc will kick the tar out of e. trinity...
i'll take slc and give 21 points....
only hope for et is slc going d-2..

[TrojanHorse03]

poopy certainly takes the cake for today's most memorable quote

[dragons08]

Before you speak about Trinity education, you should review some of SLC's postings. I have noticed that too. However, when people type on here they get in a hurry and even the most educated type quickly and often are not thinking about grammer or spelling....just who can play football better than another.
im not dissing trinity education, im just talking about his shifting skill

[dragons08]

every school has their brainless supporters. ignoring them is a fine policy.
man ddaddy your so smart!!! the whole ignore button, ignoring people, not opening threads we dont care about, itd be awesome if people acuttaly realize all the possiblities, instead of getting pissed off about reading it..

[myround0]

Theres one thing I absolutely agree with u and thats we have Irving, SGP, and Mac still left to go and thats why everything else you have said is irrelevant, especially calling out SLC. We dont want to look like the LV fans with egg all over r faces. I'm telling you having had an opportunity to observe tape and in person performance the 3 best teams on r schedule r the ones we r about to face. Trust me forget about Desoto, REL, Midland Lee, and the rest of the bottom feeders of 6-5a.

Talk junk all you like...you might just end up with that same Rockwall team in Division 1, and you will see just how tough they are...I pray you guys do, and I just hope they bring it to you like they brought it to us and they will win Division 1's title....proverb for ya, the same thing that makes you laugh now, will make you cry later, talk about Longview and Rockwall all you like, you just might see them down the road,

[DragonNation]

The Trinity legend keeps growing and growing. How can this year's team top all those great Trinity teams of the past?

[outtacontrol]

ya i was talking about slc as the white boys on roids you dumbnut!! half the team is on roids guaranteed...no average white guys can do so good for so long without ehancing themselves!!!!!!

what it takes to make the club go outtacontrol!!

[ALLIN]

You're right, no average white guy......but wait, SLC is not average. Your right though everyone is on roids, no one cares. not the school, coaches community, no one. Man, how did you find out........DUMBNUT!!! If thinking SLC takes roids makes you feel better, then so be it.

[KT2000]

I wish every day was gameday, so we could settle this debate without all of the down time between games where trash talk happens.

Outtacontrol lived up to his name, but unfortunately for him/her/it those kind of posts will never be tolerated on this site.

[SLCDad]

I wish every day was gameday, so we could settle this debate without all of the down time between games where trash talk happens.

Outtacontrol lived up to his name, but unfortunately for him/her/it those kind of posts will never be tolerated on this site.Thank you, thank you thank you.

[Blitzkreig]

No dog in this fight, but a few observations: Trinity has done very well this year. SLC continues to do well every year. Chances are that the Trinity/SLC game will never take place. Unfortunate in that Trinity would get a first hand look at a non one-dimensional team that leaves opponents behind very quickly. No two seconds and a cloud of dust with these guys but a very sophisticated spread, with by high school standards, an unbelievable number of options/weapons/"wrinkles...executed by very intelligent athletes. Of particular interest is the fact the SLC QB has not been allowed to play over six quarters during games played this season. Do you have any idea what would happen if he were turned loose on a run oriented team with questionable pass defense? Solve it with a blitz? Past history says not for long.

[BigFoot]

Not all Trinity fans are so vocal nor so sure of things unknown. I have no idea if ET can beat SLC or if SLC can beat ET. That is unknown. We can all guess but the game has to be played on the field not the message boards.
Any team on any given day can rise or fall depending on circumstances and play. So let's all wait to see (1) if it happens (2) the game. Even then the loser would still be a good team, some one else would just have been better.
All this arguing about something no one can know for sure is not proving a thing. Discussing the facts about games played or stats of a player are facts you know. The winner of a game is only known after the fact.

[stinger]

Blitzkrieg....your number of posts describes your knowledge. The SLC QB has played far more than 6 total quarters. It seems funny that Trinity is given no credit on defense by you when they have faced a variety of styles and have done very well in allowing less than 15 points per game. Their defense is in the top ten in the area. They have had to come from behind once. They have scored a touchdown on over 90% of their possessions. They have not had to use the pass very much, but have completed over 60% of their passes, for the longest completion rate around. I am not saying they are the best in any one area, but they certainly have done well and held their ground. The defense is a "bend but don't break" style. They seem to get things figured out before it is too late. Most of all, Trinity is playing as an enthusiastic unit with a goal in mind. Best of luck to all teams. We all have our favorites.

[powerofthehaka]

I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves here. There are 3 games left in the season. I dont know if Grapevine is good enough to win out. You guy's in 5-5a could answer that better. I am going to take the high road and not start SLC bashing. Coach Lineweaver and Coach Dodge would not bad mouth each other, so I dont feel inclined to now. If it does arrive I feel very confident in our ability to beat SLC. Good Luck to both.

[boto24]

Southlake will definitely not take anyone by surprise but when the Dragons play teams they have never played before (Longview as an example) in the playoffs, these teams make the same mistake many other teams have made as when we played them in high school. The other team watches film of SLC or watches them on TV and hears all of the hype surrounding them and the mentality (though rarely spoken) is "These are just a bunch of white guys who can't match our athletic ability. Do they really think they can compete with us? We've beaten more athletic teams than this" until they get on the field and find they're down by 3 or 4 TDs. Many people from outside of Texas who watch SLC on TV develop the same mentality. This mentality works in SLC's favor and they know it. SLC has managed to keep the same mental approach and attitude for the last 25 years since Coach Ledbetter started the tradition. Coaching, play calling, team execution, and mental preparation give SLC the real edge over teams who may have more athletic ability. Just ask anyone who has played them for the first time.

[SLCDad]

. . . It seems funny that Trinity is given no credit on defense by you when they have faced a variety of styles and have done very well in allowing less than 15 points per game. Their defense is in the top ten in the area. They have had to come from behind once. They have scored a touchdown on over 90% of their possessions. They have not had to use the pass very much, but have completed over 60% of their passes, for the longest completion rate around. I am not saying they are the best in any one area, but they certainly have done well and held their ground. The defense is a "bend but don't break" style. They seem to get things figured out before it is too late. Most of all, Trinity is playing as an enthusiastic unit with a goal in mind. Best of luck to all teams. We all have our favorites.Trinity has a great defense. Yards allowed is not so hot but opponents scoring is low. The pass completion % is nothing to get to excited about because the opposition is playing 8 in the box. I believe SLC's McElroy is completing about 65% of his passes against defenses playing only 6 or 7 in the box. This does not disparage Trinity's offense or defense because both are very good and the power running game is truly great.

[SLCDad]

. . . . I am going to take the high road and not start SLC bashing. Coach Lineweaver and Coach Dodge would not bad mouth each other, so I dont feel inclined to now. If it does arrive I feel very confident in our ability to beat SLC. Good Luck to both.Anyone who bashes either Trinity or SLC is a total fool. Both teams are near the top in Texas and in the nation. As for me, I'm confident that SLC could handle Trinity but it would be a great game.

[stinger]

Good statement SLCDAD. Both teams are loaded in different ways. The game would be a great one to witness. Both teams would have their hands full with the other's strengths. It could be a march up and down the field. The "recliner coaches" out here all have the game plan to win. What makes it even better is that the execution is up to the kids, and the fans have the heart attacks. I personally don't think SLC will be DI after all is done in District play, but anything can happen. The playoffs should be as good as it has been in years.

[farmerfan]

You got me thinking with your post, so I thought I would check out the "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" . I visited the www.trinitytrojanfootball.com website and I checked the history of the "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" which dates back to 1976. I really did find a "Tradition of Powerhouse Football" with, ‘No’, read that as ‘Zero’ state championships and only 'One' read that as ‘a single’ state championship appearance in 36 years. In those 36 years; Judson won 5A state 6 times, Permian 4, Katy 3, Midland Lee 3, Plano 3, Lewisville 2, Southlake Carroll 2 and 18 other schools have won 5A one time. I must be missing something as I certainly do not see a "Tradition of Powerhouse Football", what I see is “Never won the Big One”

Your basis of what is a powerhouse program is skewed. In that time frame you are going on, teams such as Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, North Shore and others are considered powerhouses, and all those schools have advanced to 1 state title game, with all but Longview winning one state title. However Trinity has been winning over a consistant basis as long as any of those teams. Since 1992 Trinity has been defeated by the eventual state champion 4 times and got beat by a state finalist the other time. Two of those teams you named as powerhouse knocked some very good Trinity teams out of the playoffs and Trinity gave them everything they could handle (Plano in 93 and Lewisville 99).
It is your own opinion that Trinity is not a powerhouse program, but it is a opinion not shared by many who have follwed football in the metroplex for the past 20+ years.

[TrojanHorse03]

By the way I find these Trinity/Southlake threads really funny. The team could care less about southlake. EVERYBODY is just a another team in the way of the TEAM'S GOALS. And this week its IRVING :mad:

[implacable44]

ya i was talking about slc as the white boys on roids you dumbnut!! half the team is on roids guaranteed...no average white guys can do so good for so long without ehancing themselves!!!!!!

what it takes to make the club go outtacontrol!!

why did you ban this guy ? his logical and clear thought process is totally evident - He fully documents the inadequacies of the white man as an athlete - of course compared to the Tongan who is naturally more athletic and is supported by the vast array of professional tongan athletes in all the major sports who are drug free (kava) and use no enhancements whatsoever. We need more logical thinkers with this sort of rational thought process that is well supported in today's society. and I must say - just take a look at Clint and Mckay and it is totally evident that they are on the needle - I mean look at the size of those guys and their enormous craniums.

ridiculous.

[Trojan22]

Its sad that Trinity's quarterback doesn't have any reciever like SLC has five. If Trevor had a good go-to reciever than their great rushing game with have an air attack to keep teams guessing. Trevor Vittatoe is a very under-rated quarterback, if he had a reciever that can adjust to the ball like Renfro then you would see what I am talking about. I have friend at Trinity that played for Trinity as a sophmore, he is a great wide reciever, but they put him at safety because he could hit hard. During junior he had to quit because of family issues that arent my place to say. This year he had everything worked out and was ready to get back to his year as a reciever for Trinity, but Lineweaver told him he couldn't come back after quitting. Trinity's senior and some junior players that know my friend's ability wanted him back, even some of the other coaches had talked to him about showing what he has as a reciever for Trevor and special team spots because he can hit and run.

So my point is its a shame he couldn't get back on, we would have a go-to reciever. He says he is going to walk on to Texas Tech next year and I believe he can. I watch him play with some of friends of his that are semi-pro players and some old college players that his dad knows and who he grew up. They told to try-out for some of those semi-pro teams, but he said he wanted to go to college and make it there. The kid is fast, strong and his routes are crisped. He can also catch anything thrown at him, I remember Trevor breaking atleast 4 of his fingers as we all grew up together, because no matter how hard it was thrown he would catch it. Remember the name.....Nick Holbrook..... He is going to be one of Texas Techs big recievers in the next couple of years, maybe as a Freshman.

But as for Trinity they got a really good chance at SLC, I believe that its going to work so we can see "The Dream Game" they are calling it. I just wish Nick was out there playing. You can ask any senior player for Trinity even Trevor and they will know who he is and will say that wish he was out there. Trevor and Nick grew up together hooking up for touchdowns since they were little. It would be really cool to see Trevor go to Texas Tech and beat out SLC's quarterback for the starting spot, just to see those two hook up again.

[toonman]

Your basis of what is a powerhouse program is skewed. In that time frame you are going on, teams such as Longview, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, North Shore and others are considered powerhouses, and all those schools have advanced to 1 state title game, with all but Longview winning one state title. However Trinity has been winning over a consistant basis as long as any of those teams. Since 1992 Trinity has been defeated by the eventual state champion 4 times and got beat by a state finalist the other time. Two of those teams you named as powerhouse knocked some very good Trinity teams out of the playoffs and Trinity gave them everything they could handle (Plano in 93 and Lewisville 99).
It is your own opinion that Trinity is not a powerhouse program, but it is a opinion not shared by many who have follwed football in the metroplex for the past 20+ years.

Point taken - I used the 'facts' to try and calm down our friend 'trojanman'. I think he was getting carried away, when there is still a lot of District football to be played (against 2 other undefeated district foes; South Grand Prairie and Irving MacArthur, not to mention a difficult Irving game this week) and there will be many many good play-off teams in D1. I just think ET still has a long way to go before claiming a State Title. I have the greatest respect for the Euless Trinity Program and they do appear to have what it takes to win State.

[TrojanHorse03]

To be honest I'm glad to hear people point out that we still have out toughest games to go. And I can't emphasize enough that this could be the definition of a trap door game at Irving, after a rivalry game, and before the already decide "showdown for the district title" vs. SGP.

[farmerfan]

Point taken - I used the 'facts' to try and calm down our friend 'trojanman'. I think he was getting carried away, when there is still a lot of District football to be played (against 2 other undefeated district foes; South Grand Prairie and Irving MacArthur, not to mention a difficult Irving game this week) and there will be many many good play-off teams in D1. I just think ET still has a long way to go before claiming a State Title. I have the greatest respect for the Euless Trinity Program and they do appear to have what it takes to win State.


Some Trinity fans are excited and with good reason. As fans we are allowed to look forward to winning a state title when our respected teams appear good enough. I think everyone in the state as now heard of Trinity and many consider them to be one of the favorites to win the division 1 crown. However dont get on to their fans for being to excited. Back in 2002 the Carroll fans were the same way on this board. In non-district they cruised over the likes of Denison, Sherman, Waxahachie and some more teams, I remember telling them to wait till district when they would play the big boys and they calmly told me they could not wait, well they came into district and embarassed the proud programs of Marcus, Lewisville and Coppell. A few other fans were not convinced of Carroll and told them that Abilene Cooper would get them in the playoffs, well the point is that everyone told the Carroll fans to calm down and wait till the play someone, well the same can be said for the Trinity fans right now. This group is special and a group that does not come around to often. As a outsider I realize that there are still 3 tough district games left, but I honestly believe Trinity will win those games by 14+ pts if not more.
As fans we are allowed to talk about winning state titles and thinking our teams are good enough to do so, its when the players start thinking that way when the problems will arise.

[DragonFan]

Good post, that reflects some things that I said earlier about being excited about a team. The excitement will start to build after each game and the possiblities of a SLC/Trinity game will be decided on the last game of the reqular season. Good luck for the rest of the season!

[BigFoot]

There is a great article on Blowouts and proper procedures regarding them.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/high_school/12940550.htm

Also a good one if you go back at this site regarding the ET defense.

[ALLIN]

Can any of you ET fans give me the stats for you guys? Running yards, passing, % of run to pass etc.

[pack0808]

why did you ban this guy ? his logical and clear thought process is totally evident - He fully documents the inadequacies of the white man as an athlete - of course compared to the Tongan who is naturally more athletic and is supported by the vast array of professional tongan athletes in all the major sports who are drug free (kava) and use no enhancements whatsoever. We need more logical thinkers with this sort of rational thought process that is well supported in today's society. and I must say - just take a look at Clint and Mckay and it is totally evident that they are on the needle - I mean look at the size of those guys and their enormous craniums.

ridiculous.

LOL implacable that was kind of funny!! what a moron that guy is?? wow!! Like teams that happen to be mostly white that win a lot are so unusual?? Look up on who was playing in the finals in the last 5 to 7 years and see how dumb that statement was?? :rolleyes: Did you forget about teams like SV, Katy, Tyler Lee, Austin Westlake, and The Woodlands?? It is not unusual at all!!

[dragonsdaddy]

Blitzkrieg....your number of posts describes your knowledge. The SLC QB has played far more than 6 total quarters. It seems funny that Trinity is given no credit on defense by you when they have faced a variety of styles and have done very well in allowing less than 15 points per game. Their defense is in the top ten in the area. They have had to come from behind once. They have scored a touchdown on over 90% of their possessions. They have not had to use the pass very much, but have completed over 60% of their passes, for the longest completion rate around. I am not saying they are the best in any one area, but they certainly have done well and held their ground. The defense is a "bend but don't break" style. They seem to get things figured out before it is too late. Most of all, Trinity is playing as an enthusiastic unit with a goal in mind. Best of luck to all teams. We all have our favorites.
does et really score tds on 90% of their possessions? that's very very good, almost to the point of being unbelieveable. can you document this feat?

[stinger]

It was already posted on another thread. I'll see if I can find it. I believe it is the one about the best offense. It seemed extra high to me, but I have been to all of the games, and have witnessed the possibility. They have only had to kick twice and they have had several drives and passes for touchdowns. I feel confident that it is true. This is the fallacy about numbers....Not much possession time because they score very quickly. This is not ball control...it is offense. The defense spends a lot more time on the field because the other team has more attempts;Trinity moves and strikes quickly. Their running game keeps the so-called 8 in the box busy and other parts of the game flourish.

[The Great Evaluator]

does et really score tds on 90% of their possessions? that's very very good, almost to the point of being unbelieveable. can you document this feat?
I just checked the morning news website and it lists rushing touchdowns as follows:

Nance 21
Handy 10
Vittatoe 3
Robinson 1
Pannel 1
Leota 1
Moore 1

Total 38 + 11 passing from Vittatoe = 49

Passing
Vittatoe 11

You figure 7 games times 8 possesions would be 56 so we know that 49 touchdowns is correct, the only question is possesions. If those numbers are true that's sick...I've never heard of that although southlake and longview are probably pretty close to that.

Marcus King and LaDerrick Handy have caught 10 passes between them for 8 touchdowns. I guess its pick your poision, 8 in the box you go over the top 7 in the box you play smashmouth.

[gritty52]

Allin and others go to the thread Best Offense in 5 A. There I have posted some of Trinity's offensive numbers. Keep in mind here about these numbers Nance, Vittatoe and Handy haven't played MUCH beyond the first sreies of the 2nd half in almost all 7 games. :D

[SLCDad]

I just checked the morning news website and it lists rushing touchdowns as follows:

Nance 21
Handy 10
Vittatoe 3
Robinson 1
Pannel 1
Leota 1
Moore 1

Total 38 + 11 passing from Vittatoe = 49

Passing
Vittatoe 11

You figure 7 games times 8 possesions would be 56 so we know that 49 touchdowns is correct, the only question is possesions. If those numbers are true that's sick...I've never heard of that although southlake and longview are probably pretty close to that.

Marcus King and LaDerrick Handy have caught 10 passes between them for 8 touchdowns. I guess its pick your poision, 8 in the box you go over the top 7 in the box you play smashmouth.Trinity has either punted or had a turnover 12 times this year. If you take your 49 TDs and add 12 TOs/punts that would mean that Trinity scores TDs about 80% of the time. If you add the times the clock expired then the rate would be lower (say around 72%).

That's impressive but it's not 90%.

To add some more perspective, SLC is scoring slightly more points per game than Trinity and many of their points come from FGs. Does that imply that SLC scores more often than Trinity? Three more teams are only 3 points per game behind.

[Lamont Cranston]

Blitzkrieg....your number of posts describes your knowledge. The SLC QB has played far more than 6 total quarters. It seems funny that Trinity is given no credit on defense by you when they have faced a variety of styles and have done very well in allowing less than 15 points per game. Their defense is in the top ten in the area. They have had to come from behind once. They have scored a touchdown on over 90% of their possessions. They have not had to use the pass very much, but have completed over 60% of their passes, for the longest completion rate around. I am not saying they are the best in any one area, but they certainly have done well and held their ground. The defense is a "bend but don't break" style. They seem to get things figured out before it is too late. Most of all, Trinity is playing as an enthusiastic unit with a goal in mind. Best of luck to all teams. We all have our favorites.

Believe Blitzkreig's number of posts pretty much demonstrates his reluctance to participate in partisan ignorance. He's not one of the run of the mill jock-sniffers that populates these threads, he's actually been there and done in higher level FB. Agree w/Blitz SLC/ET would be a great game if for no other reason than to see how one highly hyped one-dimensional team (ET) does against another highly hyped multi-dimensional team (SLC). Believe no ET "bending", just sliced and diced. To assist in reading comprehension: QB McElroy did in fact not play over 6 total quarters of 7 games (7X4=28 total quarters - over 6 qtrs on the side line). Get it? Not rocket science. Additionally, ET may have completed 60% of their passes, but they certainly haven't "the longest completion rate (what ever that is) around". McElroy's current completion rate is 66%-71%, depending on source of stats. He is a 5A leader, according to Dallas Morning News with 26 passing tds/ over 300 yds per game. He has an additional 6 rushing tds. All while not playing over 6 game quarters. If you are going to post suggest you work on your facts/lexicon. Truck on Blitz and best wishes to both ET and SLC.

[c-lisle]

Anyone who talks trash to SLC is crazy in my opinion. Anytime a team is on a roll like they have been the last few years it takes a heck of a performance for someone to take them down. I think there are teams capable of it this year but they will have to play almost perfect football to beat them.

[gritty52]

You SLC folks really get to the nats crack don't you!!! SLC'S starters play a lot more than Trinity's. enough is enough off ti Kincaid's for lun :D ch!!!!

[crunked9]

Trinity has BEATEN on the TALENT of TYLER LEE, the SPEED of DESOTO, the PRIDE of MIDLAND, the TOUGHNESS of IRVING NIMITZ, the HIPE of COPPEL,G.P., AND THE HEART OF EACH...... They also have the TRADITIONS of SGP and IRVING MAC LEFT to face... Not to mention the MIND of IRVING HIGH this week....I know that i sound BigHeaded but all i know is that when the season all said and done and the playoffs are here the TROJANS will be screaming ''SOUTHLAKE BRING WHAT U GOT AND WE'LL SHOW U HOW ITS DONE'' while listening to the hawgs shouting ''FOLLOW ME''........ Which all leads down to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE HAKA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which is what makes us bring down the house with ALL OF THE ABOVE>.........TALENT,SPEED,PRIDE,TOUGHNESS,HIPE,HEART,a nd most of all our TRADTION OF POWERHOUSE FOOTBALL..................

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably not the best thing to say!

[dragonfootballfan]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably not the best thing to say!
you are probably right. A dance is not going to prove that a team with no championships is a football powerhouse. A dance is not going to make a team better than another.

[SLCDad]

A dance is not going to prove that a team with no championships is a football powerhouse. A dance is not going to make a team better than another.Who says so? It's a really, really scary dance. :eek: :eek:

[crunked9]

Who says so? It's a really, really scary dance. :eek: :eek:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[chhspantherfan]

nice last page.....things should be becoming clearer for some new posters;)

[dragonsdaddy]

nice last page.....things should be becoming clearer for some new posters;)
you sure? my pre-senile dementia must have kicked in, cause i am more lost than ever.

[Super B]

'05 version of SLC and Trinity would have been a good matchup.

[CoppellCowboy57]

I'm sorry the year Coppell and Euless had the epic game. Coppell wasn't hype. I'm pretty sure Coppell proved that by leading the whole game. Yeah we lost but those boys played one hell of a game.

[dragonsdaddy]

'05 version of SLC and Trinity would have been a good matchup.

as it was, the one in 06 wasn't all bad.

[TrinityTrojan299]

I'm sorry the year Coppell and Euless had the epic game. Coppell wasn't hype. I'm pretty sure Coppell proved that by leading the whole game. Yeah we lost but those boys played one hell of a game.

That Coppell team was state championship caliber. It was a great game, for both programs.

[TrinityTrojan299]

as it was, the one in 06 wasn't all bad.

Yes sir, one of those rare moments when reality lived up to the hype.