Official embarrassment!

[Mantis]

One observation from the Katy vs. Madison game... We saw 22 minutes of competitive football until Katy took advantage of what many may argue a poor coaching descision after Madison attempted a 4th and 10 from the Katy 44 with less than a minute remaining in the first half. Of course Katy took advantage of a depleted secondary after Madison's best cover man, Chris Lambeth suffered a serious knee injury in the celebration of the comeback thriller against Smithson Valley. Andrew Green was burnt on three deep balls (two for TD's, including that last one before the half) after having to play both ways after the unfortunate injury to Lambeth. Katy seized the momentum and never looked back.

The ugly part of the game was that the officials were collectively horrible. Fortunately, they did not ultimately effect the outcome of the game, but their very poor officiating screws with the integrity of the game. I'm certain that by UIL rules this crew had to come from Region I or II, but the UIL should review the game tape and admonish that crew by not allowing them to officiate ANY playoff games next year.

There were just way too many calls NOT made that were blatant and easy to see. Also they called legal plays penalties and the replays prove that the officials were mistaken in throwing flags. Overall this was the worst called playoff game I've ever seen from an officiating crew. This was not about a couple of blown calls, this was about a WHOLE game of consistant official mistakes.

[Pool Man]

I agree. Katy should have gotten a lot more calls then what they did. The officials were definately to easy on Madison.

[okt0ber]

And that Madison TD that wasn't even a TD..... that was pretty bad. How about the Madison players picking fights....

[Mantis]

Both teams should have had more calls. It started early when the Katy DB's were contacting the Madison receivers (namely #8, Askew) before the ball was there. They missed two obvious Pass Interference calls on the first possesion that went deep inside Katy territory. Then the first pass on Madison's second possesion was a BLATANT interference not called. The kids hands were pulled down making the catch impossible. There was another later when Madison tried to set up a screen and the Katy player knocked down the intended Madison receiver before the ball was even close to him and agin no call by the officials. They also missed holds on both sides and that holding call late on the fifty yard kick-off return by Green was a pure pancake block, not a hold. The problem was the Madison player refused to let the Katy player up. He was trying to bury him in the field turf and a personal foul was a justifiable call for excessive force. The ejection however was way out of line.

[t-long20]

First off, madison should not be comlpaining about ANY calls as far as the playoffs are concerned.

Did yall forget the push-off that wasn't called for the game wining td? Or maybe you forgot about the hook and laterral that was ruled an incomplete pass? How ironic you dont want to talk about the refs that offciated that game.

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black

And second of all, its not like the offciating determined the outcome of the game. Like it did at our game. You got OUTPLAYED and OUTCOACHED by a better team. Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go. The better team won and everyone knows that. Not to mention the lack of class madison showed by the numerous penalties called on them in the 4th and the two ejections.

[Mantis]

And that Madison TD that wasn't even a TD..... that was pretty bad. How about the Madison players picking fights....

The replay looked like (I saw it in slow mo later) he was blasted out of bounds right when the ball literally hit the font of the white line, which technically made it a TD. Even with instant replay that call would not have been over turned. That was an awsome hit!

[t-long20]

And that Madison TD that wasn't even a TD..... that was pretty bad. How about the Madison players picking fights....

Thats right. Madison couldn't take there whipping like a man they had to pick fights and take cheap shots at a far superior Katy team. No wonder katy ran up the score to 66 points with there second string in.

[NSMustangProud]

I think this has been a year with some strange refs....we had some crazy ones down here in Houston!

[t-long20]

I think this has been a year with some strange refs....we had some crazy ones down here in Houston!

I hope your not talking about the NS vs. Judson game. Because it was the turnovers that killed yall

[okt0ber]

First off, madison should not be comlpaining about ANY calls as far as the playoffs are concerned.

Did yall forget the push-off that wasn't called for the game wining td? Or maybe you forgot about the hook and laterral that was ruled an incomplete pass? How ironic you dont want to talk about the refs that offciated that game.

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black

And second of all, its not like the offciating determined the outcome of the game. Like it did at our game. You got OUTPLAYED and OUTCOACHED by a better team. Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go. The better team won and everyone knows that. Not to mention the lack of class madison showed by the numerous penalties called on them in the 4th and the two ejections.

If you would read everything he typed, he already said all that. So if it doesn't change the outcome of the game, it's ok to have bad officiating towards both teams? Right. :rolleyes:

[okt0ber]

Thats right. Madison couldn't take there whipping like a man they had to pick fights and take cheap shots at a far superior Katy team. No wonder katy ran up the score to 66 points with there second string in.

their

[Mantis]

First off, madison should not be comlpaining about ANY calls as far as the playoffs are concerned.

Did yall forget the push-off that wasn't called for the game wining td? Or maybe you forgot about the hook and laterral that was ruled an incomplete pass? How ironic you dont want to talk about the refs that offciated that game.

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black

And second of all, its not like the offciating determined the outcome of the game. Like it did at our game. You got OUTPLAYED and OUTCOACHED by a better team. Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go. The better team won and everyone knows that. Not to mention the lack of class madison showed by the numerous penalties called on them in the 4th and the two ejections.


T-LONG, you're such a PUNK at times! Read the post, no-body said that the refs effected the outcome of the game, they jerked with the integrity of the game.

The refs didn't call that offensive pass interference and they could have, but it was not as obvious and blatant as when Madison CB Robert Hamilton was pushed off of in order for the SV receiver to catch the game sealing 1st down on 3rd and long to run out the clock when Madison lost to SV 28-27 in the '02 QF. And the hook and lateral was incomplete bacause the FIRST receiver never had possesion. He volleyed the ball back (no different than a tip) and because the second player did not catch it clean it was incomplete. I've looked up the NCAA rules and they were correct.

[Katy Band 2010]

Both teams should have had more calls. It started early when the Katy DB's were contacting the Madison receivers (namely #8, Askew) before the ball was there. They missed two obvious Pass Interference calls on the first possesion that went deep inside Katy territory. Then the first pass on Madison's second possesion was a BLATANT interference not called. The kids hands were pulled down making the catch impossible. There was another later when Madison tried to set up a screen and the Katy player knocked down the intended Madison receiver before the ball was even close to him and agin no call by the officials. They also missed holds on both sides and that holding call late on the fifty yard kick-off return by Green was a pure pancake block, not a hold. The problem was the Madison player refused to let the Katy player up. He was trying to bury him in the field turf and a personal foul was a justifiable call for excessive force. The ejection however was way out of line.


You obviously have no idea do you?

[t-long20]

If you would read everything he typed, he already said all that. So if it doesn't change the outcome of the game, it's ok to have bad officiating towards both teams? Right. :rolleyes:

If it doesn't change that outcome. And you have no authority or power in who gets to ref playoff games. Then why waste your time making a thread about it?

[shooter]

Thats right. Madison couldn't take there whipping like a man they had to pick fights and take cheap shots at a far superior Katy team. No wonder katy ran up the score to 66 points with there second string in.

it's hard to discribe the emotions to someone thats never been there I guess.

[t-long20]

T-LONG, you're such a PUNK at times! Read the post, no-body said that the refs effected the outcome of the game, they jerked with the integrity of the game.

The refs didn't call that offensive pass interference and they could have, but it was not as obvious and blatant as when Madison CB Robert Hamilton was pushed off of in order for the SV receiver to catch the game sealing 1st down on 3rd and long to run out the clock when Madison lost to SV 28-27 in the '02 QF. And the hook and lateral was incomplete bacause the FIRST receiver never had possesion. He volleyed the ball back (no different than a tip) and because the second player did not catch it clean it was incomplete. I've looked up the NCAA rules and they were correct.

Integrity of the game? Are you serious? You got pummeled its not rocket science

[t-long20]

it's hard to discribe the emotions to someone thats never been there I guess.

Oh and that makes it ok? Yay we made it all the way to the semis and now were getting killed so im going to play dirty. Let me ask you something, when was the last time someone from 26-5a (other then Judson or SV) actually beat a team from region3?

[Katy Band 2010]

Both teams should have had more calls. It started early when the Katy DB's were contacting the Madison receivers (namely #8, Askew) before the ball was there. They missed two obvious Pass Interference calls on the first possesion that went deep inside Katy territory. Then the first pass on Madison's second possesion was a BLATANT interference not called. The kids hands were pulled down making the catch impossible. There was another later when Madison tried to set up a screen and the Katy player knocked down the intended Madison receiver before the ball was even close to him and agin no call by the officials. They also missed holds on both sides and that holding call late on the fifty yard kick-off return by Green was a pure pancake block, not a hold. The problem was the Madison player refused to let the Katy player up. He was trying to bury him in the field turf and a personal foul was a justifiable call for excessive force. The ejection however was way out of line.

The play on the screen was totally legal....anything is within the first five yards after the line of scrimmage...Yea I really believe the Madison player wasn't holding him, he was just trying o run away from the Madison player but his jersey was too big and it was just flapping in the wind next to the Madison players hands....wow. Any more excuses? WTH was up with the player running straight into our kicker? Yea yall have absoluely no class at all and have lost all respect from alot of Katy Fans...yall are lucky the score wasnt higher....
You obviously have no idea do you?

[okt0ber]

Integrity of the game? Are you serious? You got pummeled its not rocket science

You must not understand the term integrity of the game.

That doesn't mean it caused the win/loss. It means the game wasn't carried out in the proper way.

I suppose you are for bad officials, it seems.

Even the Katy people would agree the officials were bad in this game, and they won. So your little theory that the Madison people are making excuses holds no water. Sorry.

[Mantis]

You obviously have no idea do you?

If a player throws a punch or a kick, spits or engages an official with foul language that deserves an ejection. Not letting your opponent up off the ground by laying on him and penning him with force... Coaches teach that. It was just excessive and deserved a personal foul call because the Madison kid kept it up for too long. Had he stood over him and shoved him back down as he tried to get up I would have ejected him. But he layed on him the whole time and kept holding him down with force.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

It's hilarious... Katy's toughest opponent, all year, has been a scrappy Pasadena Memorial team, who many thought was overrated and out of their league.

[okt0ber]

It's hilarious... Katy's toughest opponent, all year, has been a scrappy Pasadena Memorial team, who many thought was overrated and out of their league.

You love PMS don't you?

[Mantis]

The play on the screen was totally legal....anything is within the first five yards after the line of scrimmage...Yea I really believe the Madison player wasn't holding him, he was just trying o run away from the Madison player but his jersey was too big and it was just flapping in the wind next to the Madison players hands....wow. Any more excuses? WTH was up with the player running straight into our kicker? Yea yall have absoluely no class at all and have lost all respect from alot of Katy Fans...yall are lucky the score wasnt higher....
You obviously have no idea do you?

He clipped him low in the leg on the follow through of the PAT. That's always a penalty and it is not always intentional. I agree it was hard contact, but it's not as if he wen helmet to helmet trying to knock him out. It was just a hard football play that deserved a roughing the kicker. As for what I know... well let's see... since I played 27 games (7 of them playoff games) of UIL 5A high school football and played D I-AA college football I'm confident I know more than you about this game.

[cougmantx]

The play on the screen was totally legal....anything is within the first five yards after the line of scrimmage...Yea I really believe the Madison player wasn't holding him, he was just trying o run away from the Madison player but his jersey was too big and it was just flapping in the wind next to the Madison players hands....wow. Any more excuses? WTH was up with the player running straight into our kicker? Yea yall have absoluely no class at all and have lost all respect from alot of Katy Fans...yall are lucky the score wasnt higher....
You obviously have no idea do you?

I've seen several pictures of the game (I was there) where the Katy jerseys blew into the Madison players hands and they couldn't let go of them fast enough.

[t-long20]

You must not understand the term integrity of the game.

That doesn't mean it caused the win/loss. It means the game wasn't carried out in the proper way.

I suppose you are for bad officials, it seems.

Even the Katy people would agree the officials were bad in this game, and they won. So your little theory that the Madison people are making excuses holds no water. Sorry.

If you knew anything about me you would know that our team lost due to bad officiating toward the end imo.And if you knew me then you would know that im the one who proposed instant replays and red flags for playoff games in another thread.So ofcourse im not for it

Do you really think this thread would've been made had Madison won the game? What katy fans have said it was a bad offciated game? There KATY for crying out loud im sure that they could careless when the season is over with as long as they get there ring.

If someone made a thread for everytime a game wasn't "carried out in the proper way". This entire board would be full of the same threads. Like a madison poster said after our game. "Football was a game made by humans, so it will have human mistakes"

[Mantis]

If you knew anything about me you would know that our team lost due to bad officiating toward the end imo.And if you knew me then you would know that im the one who proposed instant replays and red flags for playoff games in another thread.So ofcourse im not for it

Do you really think this thread would've been made had Madison won the game? What katy fans have said it was a bad offciated game? There KATY for crying out loud im sure that they could careless when the season is over with as long as they get there ring.

If someone made a thread for everytime a game wasn't "carried out in the proper way". This entire board would be full of the same threads

Good point... How bad were the refs in the Weslaco vs. Madison game? They couldn't even spot the ball in the correct place after a play... like the whole game!

[Pool Man]

You obviously have no idea do you?

Exactly.

[STB24]

Oh and that makes it ok? Yay we made it all the way to the semis and now were getting killed so im going to play dirty. Let me ask you something, when was the last time someone from 26-5a (other then Judson or SV) actually beat a team from region3?

when was the last time warren got to play a region 3 team in the semis??

[Fleeman93]

If a player throws a punch or a kick, spits or engages an official with foul language that deserves an ejection. Not letting your opponent up off the ground by laying on him and penning him with force... Coaches teach that. It was just excessive and deserved a personal foul call because the Madison kid kept it up for too long. Had he stood over him and shoved him back down as he tried to get up I would have ejected him. But he layed on him the whole time and kept holding him down with force.


Did you watch the play?

[Fleeman93]

He clipped him low in the leg on the follow through of the PAT.

From what I saw he didn't "clip" him. He had a terrible angle and hit both the holder and the kicker. Film will tell all.

That's always a penalty and it is not always intentional. I agree it was hard contact, but it's not as if he wen helmet to helmet trying to knock him out. It was just a hard football play that deserved a roughing the kicker. As for what I know... well let's see... since I played 27 games (7 of them playoff games) of UIL 5A high school football and played D I-AA college football I'm confident I know more than you about this game.

There are professional coaches in different sports that have never played a single second in their sport. Your argument doesn't hold a drop of water.


..

[Fleeman93]

It's hilarious... Katy's toughest opponent, all year, has been a scrappy Pasadena Memorial team, who many thought was overrated and out of their league.

I agree.

[MADFAN#1]

First off, madison should not be comlpaining about ANY calls as far as the playoffs are concerned.

Did yall forget the push-off that wasn't called for the game wining td? Or maybe you forgot about the hook and laterral that was ruled an incomplete pass? How ironic you dont want to talk about the refs that offciated that game.

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black

And second of all, its not like the offciating determined the outcome of the game. Like it did at our game. You got OUTPLAYED and OUTCOACHED by a better team. Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go. The better team won and everyone knows that. Not to mention the lack of class madison showed by the numerous penalties called on them in the 4th and the two ejections.

You need to take your own advice. You still haven't let go of the Madison vs Warren game. That was three weeks ago and you are still bring it up. Go back and read your posts and learn to practice what you preach.

These are your words not mine: Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go.

[The King]

If a player throws a punch or a kick, spits or engages an official with foul language that deserves an ejection. Not letting your opponent up off the ground by laying on him and penning him with force... Coaches teach that. It was just excessive and deserved a personal foul call because the Madison kid kept it up for too long. Had he stood over him and shoved him back down as he tried to get up I would have ejected him. But he layed on him the whole time and kept holding him down with force.


This is poor coaching.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected.

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponening team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!

[texalaska]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected.

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponening team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!

This thread was started by a Madison Maverick fan complaining about the calls in the game, NOT KATY.

Congrats on your season Madison!

[rwilleby]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected.

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponening team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!

Well... I can honestly say I have never seen another teams player punch an opponent in the stomach, with his fist, three or four times, as he lay on his back, in the middle of the field... Not ever! That little ***** deserved to get thrown out... And the three on one scuffle, not cool... That's not what this sport is about... And that's not from me as a Katy fan, it's from me a dad, a parent and a man... It was chicken **** plain and simple...

[katyfan52]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost. Maybe that's a regular occurence at Madison games, but not at Katy games, at least not that we can see.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected. Would you like to back that up with some details, or is this just hearsay??

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponents team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!

See responses to bolded parts of messages in red above. :)

[shooter]

Well... I can honestly say I have never seen another teams player punch an opponent in the stomach, with his fist, three or four times, as he lay on his back, in the middle of the field... Not ever! That little ***** deserved to get thrown out... And the three on one scuffle, not cool... That's not what this sport is about... And that's not from me as a Katy fan, it's from me a dad, a parent and a man... It was chicken **** plain and simple...

Congratulations on a great game Katy

[rwilleby]

Congratulations on a great game Katy

The team and coaches say thanks...

That was from me, the person, responding to someone who must think that type of action is okay... I don't think it is and 99.9% of all of the kids who play the sport don't either... IMO.

[dada]

The officials were from the San Antonio chapter and word on the street is that you have a better shot of winning the lotto that getting an offensive pass interference call in San Antonio.

[Mantis]

The officials were from the San Antonio chapter and word on the street is that you have a better shot of winning the lotto that getting an offensive pass interference call in San Antonio.

Yup! I agree. I've seen many committed but few garnered flags.

[t-long20]

You need to take your own advice. You still haven't let go of the Madison vs Warren game. That was three weeks ago and you are still bring it up. Go back and read your posts and learn to practice what you preach.

These are your words not mine: Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go.

Only reason i brought that up was for the fact it is soo ironic how a madison poster would complain about officiating. I guess karma comes when you least expect it.

Im so flattered you put my quote in your sig. I must've struck a nerve.

[shooter]

The officials were from the San Antonio chapter and word on the street is that you have a better shot of winning the lotto that getting an offensive pass interference call in San Antonio.

I am prety sure they were Austin Refs

[LUV FOOTBALL]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected.

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponening team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!

How about 3 players:D Madison did make History:laugh:laugh:laugh They got 3 players ejected. Madison has alot to be ashamed of besides getting spanked at the Alamo Dome with home field advantage Madison doesnt know how to respect.

[dada]

I am prety sure they were Austin Refs

No..I'm 100% sure...they were San Antonio....

[shooter]

No..I'm 100% sure...they were San Antonio....

you might be right I just have never seen them before and two of them came into the Alamo dome wearing UT caps around 10:30am and they acted like they had never been in the Alamodome before not knowing where the Refs locker room was.

[shooter]

How about 3 players:D Madison did make History:laugh:laugh:laugh They got 3 players ejected. Madison has alot to be ashamed of besides getting spanked at the Alamo Dome with home field advantage Madison doesnt know how to respect.

I saw one who were the the other two?

[dada]

you might be right I just have never seen them before and two of them came into the Alamo dome wearing UT caps around 10:30am and they acted like they had never been in the Alamodome before not knowing where the Refs locker room was.

I think Katy got lost in their too...came out late for both halfs...lol...didnt even have time to do the school song.

[Katyexrb29]

Guys seriously...let it go. You the FANS are making a bad name for BOTH teams.

Neither team did anything to lose the respect of anyone. Things like fighting on the field, missing calls, etc. happen EVERY game day. Of course i'm not justifying it by saying it always happens, but just because it did happen does not mean that either team should have respect lost.

Honestly Katy people, if you talk to people outside of(and more than likely even people from houston), YOU have a reputation for being a dirty team, but not one madison fan has said "oh we lost respect for.." or hell even "we never had respect for Katy because they play dirty". IT'S FOOTBALL!..I've never played a down in my life, but even i know that there is a TON of emotion in each players head, and at times they get carried away. I'm pretty sure this game was not the first game someone has seen a player get ejected.

Basically,GET OVER IT!you're talking so much trash about the opponening team,and it's YOU not the players or team that someone should lose respect for.

Congratulations to Katy, you beat a very determined Madison team and proved you deserve every recognition you get as being the best in state. Good luck next weekend!

Mavericks...you made history this season, noone will forget the San Antonio Madison Maverick class of '08! I love each and every one of you boys..keep your heads up as you make your mark on the collegiate level!


Katy fans when was the last time you guys saw a fight on the field?:confused: Another question is she joking about our reputation?:rolleyes: Last I checked most teams have respect for Katy because they play clean. Could be wrong but pretty sure I'm right about this one:D

[MadisonMaverickChick]

Well... I can honestly say I have never seen another teams player punch an opponent in the stomach, with his fist, three or four times, as he lay on his back, in the middle of the field... Not ever! That little ***** deserved to get thrown out... And the three on one scuffle, not cool... That's not what this sport is about... And that's not from me as a Katy fan, it's from me a dad, a parent and a man... It was chicken **** plain and simple...

wow.

y'all just love to keep an arguement up somehow,right?

He got ejected, he deserved to be ejected...i'm not arguing that at all. But there is no need to make him into a horrible person...the name calling is ridiculous.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

This thread was started by a Madison Maverick fan complaining about the calls in the game, NOT KATY.

Congrats on your season Madison!

really? i didnt notice.:rolleyes: I didnt direct my post to KATY. I directed it to the FANS of BOTH teams, like i stated.

[Miss Kitty]

He clipped him low in the leg on the follow through of the PAT. That's always a penalty and it is not always intentional. I agree it was hard contact, but it's not as if he wen helmet to helmet trying to knock him out. It was just a hard football play that deserved a roughing the kicker. As for what I know... well let's see... since I played 27 games (7 of them playoff games) of UIL 5A high school football and played D I-AA college football I'm confident I know more than you about this game.

Then you should know that there is no pass interference behind the line of scrimmage which is one of the plays you cited. And they didn't call any offensive pass interference either. As far as the ejections, from our angle the young man was not just holding him down but trying to make an indention in the turf with his head and perhaps a few punches. And what was the second player doing when he ran over there. I thought he was trying to pull your guy off at first but it looked more like he was helping. I am not sure on that one. And what about the block in the back which caused our defender to slam into your punter. That was a horrible call.

I do see your point however, the officiating team was not even in the right place most of the times. For instance, the scuffle had to be flagged by the white hat because the ref that should have been there was running with the ball. He should not have been doing that. The refs only run so far and then the next ref picks up the ball and follows it. But there was no ref in position to flag it so the whitehat came from across the field to do it. Several calls were made by refs who were out of position and other calls missed because of refs out of position. That was a very sad demonstration at this level for sure.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

See responses to bolded parts of messages in red above. :)

Seriously, give it up. Madison is a classy team...and has been noted as one from the beginning. One ejection in one game, and now they are supposed to be treated like this? You guys are making this the most ridiculous arguement.
When i say it occurs often, i mean at EVERY level EVERY game day. If not at the high school level, the at the collegiate level(i am a trainer for my college, and we had a kid rip off the opponents helmet and punch him), and if not at the high school or collegiate level...then at the pro level.

IT HAPPENS!!

and because of ONE ejection, you feel it neccesary to make a very respectable team into one that lacks class? Its ridiculous,honestly.

And as for the second part...i wont lie. It is heresay, the moment i found out Madison would be playing Katy, my college's football coaches began telling me about some of the players, how amazing Katy is, and that they have a rep. for being a dirty team. So yes,it is heresay from coaches that have seen Katy play.

Anyways, this is childish. My point was not to make EITHER team look bad because neither deserves it. They both played a classy game and for one players actions to denote an entire team is ridiculous.

[rwilleby]

wow.

y'all just love to keep an arguement up somehow,right?

He got ejected, he deserved to be ejected...i'm not arguing that at all. But there is no need to make him into a horrible person...the name calling is ridiculous.

What? Everything stops at your post? I didn't know that!

I'm sure he's a fine kid... But, on that day, at that time, he didn't act like a good sport... Period... Almost everyone else on the team did... But three did not... He was one of the three...

People are judged by their actions... Those were his and it just happened to be in front of several thousand people... Don't make him out to be something he's not... He acted like a punk... What else would you call it? He's lucky he wasn't playing a less composed team...

And I've got some news for you, Chick... Fighting like THAT does not go on in every game... Maybe over there... But not over here...

[JKS]

No..I'm 100% sure...they were San Antonio....

They were from Dallas.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

How about 3 players:D Madison did make History:laugh:laugh:laugh They got 3 players ejected. Madison has alot to be ashamed of besides getting spanked at the Alamo Dome with home field advantage Madison doesnt know how to respect.

there was only one player that got ejected..are you sure you were watching the same game?

This Madison team has NOTHING to be ashamed of. and thank you for making yourself look like an ***....

Congratulations for not knowing what youre talking about! :notworthy

[Miss Kitty]

The officials were from the San Antonio chapter and word on the street is that you have a better shot of winning the lotto that getting an offensive pass interference call in San Antonio.

Actually, I think they were from the DFW area.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

What? Everything stops at your post? I didn't know that!

I'm sure he's a fine kid... But, on that day, at that time, he didn't act like a good sport... Period... Almost everyone else on the team did... But three did not... He was one of the three...

People are judged by their actions... Those were his and it just happened to be in front of several thousand people... Don't make him out to be something he's not... He acted like a punk... What else would you call it? He's lucky he wasn't playing a less composed team...

And I've got some news for you, Chick... Fighting like THAT does not go on in every game... Maybe over there... But not over here...

Okay, seriously...i've agreed with yall on this topic and you STILL find an arguement. gah!

HE DESERVED TO BE EJECTED!....i already said that. I know he acted unsportsman like, but there still is no reason to go out your(not personally you) way in a day to make this kid feel like scum. He obviously knows what he did was wrong, and if he didnt..im pretty sure coach pederson let him know.

That kind of conduct is not usual of a madison player and is certainly not supported either. There was not one fan nor coach that was cheering him on or patting him on the back after that.

And again...when i said it happens every game day...i did NOT mean every MADISON game day. my goodness.

[humpty dumpty]

If your gonna try to hurt someone....make it count

[Miss Kitty]

Okay, seriously...i've agreed with yall on this topic and you STILL find an arguement. gah!

HE DESERVED TO BE EJECTED!....i already said that. I know he acted unsportsman like, but there still is no reason to go out your(not personally you) way in a day to make this kid feel like scum. He obviously knows what he did was wrong, and if he didnt..im pretty sure coach pederson let him know.

That kind of conduct is not usual of a madison player and is certainly not supported either. There was not one fan nor coach that was cheering him on or patting him on the back after that.

And again...when i said it happens every game day...i did NOT mean every MADISON game day. my goodness.

I think what we would have expected to see is one of the coaches going out there to pull him off the field. And then perhaps giving him an *** chewing right then and there, because that is what would have happened on our side line. But it didn't, therefore it looks as if the coach did not have a concern about it. I am not saying he didn't, I am just saying what it looked like. That is why the team is being included as a whole. Because that kind of stuff comes from the top down. A coach has to control his players. One going amuck happens, but three, nope, that is not very good control.

[shooter]

I think what we would have expected to see is one of the coaches going out there to pull him off the field. And then perhaps giving him an *** chewing right then and there, because that is what would have happened on our side line. But it didn't, therefore it looks as if the coach did not have a concern about it. I am not saying he didn't, I am just saying what it looked like. That is why the team is being included as a whole. Because that kind of stuff comes from the top down. A coach has to control his players. One going amuck happens, but three, nope, that is not very good control.

He got an earfull; on the sideline I was about 10 yards from it when he got it, he was prety broken up about it no need to toss him under the bus now.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

I think what we would have expected to see is one of the coaches going out there to pull him off the field. And then perhaps giving him an *** chewing right then and there, because that is what would have happened on our side line. But it didn't, therefore it looks as if the coach did not have a concern about it. I am not saying he didn't, I am just saying what it looked like. That is why the team is being included as a whole. Because that kind of stuff comes from the top down. A coach has to control his players. One going amuck happens, but three, nope, that is not very good control.

okay, i definitely see your point.

I just want everyone to know that in no way am i condoning his behavior or the actions of the other two...i just dont feel that it is justified for the entire team to be made into a classess bunch of kids because this DEFINITELY is not becoming of a madison athlete.

[humpty dumpty]

okay, i definitely see your point.

I just want everyone to know that in no way am i condoning his behavior or the actions of the other two...i just dont feel that it is justified for the entire team to be made into a classess bunch of kids because this DEFINITELY is not becoming of a madison athlete.

:cry

[ktCarl]

One observation from the Katy vs. Madison game... We saw 22 minutes of competitive football until Katy took advantage of what many may argue a poor coaching descision after Madison attempted a 4th and 10 from the Katy 44 with less than a minute remaining in the first half. Of course Katy took advantage of a depleted secondary after Madison's best cover man, Chris Lambeth suffered a serious knee injury in the celebration of the comeback thriller against Smithson Valley. Andrew Green was burnt on three deep balls (two for TD's, including that last one before the half) after having to play both ways after the unfortunate injury to Lambeth. Katy seized the momentum and never looked back.

The ugly part of the game was that the officials were collectively horrible. Fortunately, they did not ultimately effect the outcome of the game, but their very poor officiating screws with the integrity of the game. I'm certain that by UIL rules this crew had to come from Region I or II, but the UIL should review the game tape and admonish that crew by not allowing them to officiate ANY playoff games next year.

There were just way too many calls NOT made that were blatant and easy to see. Also they called legal plays penalties and the replays prove that the officials were mistaken in throwing flags. Overall this was the worst called playoff game I've ever seen from an officiating crew. This was not about a couple of blown calls, this was about a WHOLE game of consistant official mistakes.

Where have you been? Certainly not at many High School football games. This has been a problem all season long in all 4 regions.

[Miss Kitty]

He got an earfull; on the sideline I was about 10 yards from it when he got it, he was prety broken up about it no need to toss him under the bus now.

Ahhhhhhhh, I didn't know that. Nor did 5000 of my closest friends. And you are right, he got emotional and lost it, which can happen to all of us. Nobody got hurt physically, and if he and others learned a good lesson from the actions, that is what really matters.

[Miss Kitty]

okay, i definitely see your point.

I just want everyone to know that in no way am i condoning his behavior or the actions of the other two...i just dont feel that it is justified for the entire team to be made into a classess bunch of kids because this DEFINITELY is not becoming of a madison athlete.

I understand and I think most of the Katy peeps do too. Hey, we have all done things we should probably get smacked over. You never came across like you thought what he did was cool. I think as people realize the coach did NOT let it go, as most of us thought, they will realize their opinions may be off.

[shooter]

Ahhhhhhhh, I didn't know that. Nor did 5000 of my closest friends. And you are right, he got emotional and lost it, which can happen to all of us. Nobody got hurt physically, and if he and others learned a good lesson from the actions, that is what really matters.

Streety could have chewed him a new one in front of the sideline for the word to see but he choose to have a more personal setting to save the kid any further embarrassment. Believe me no one went easy on him

[Miss Kitty]

Streety could have chewed him a new one in front of the sideline for the word to see but he choose to have a more personal setting to save the kid any further embarrassment. Believe me no one went easy on him

HA HA HA HA HA....lucky kid. Joseph would have and had done it right there, and then in a more personal setting as well I'm sure.

[Katyexrb29]

HA HA HA HA HA....lucky kid. Joseph would have and had done it right there, and then in a more personal setting as well I'm sure.

Im still a little confused maybe I should just let it go. How can someone possibly think Katy plays dirty?:confused: Joseph would have done it right there for us all to see, that's for sure.

[katybacker]

Im still a little confused maybe I should just let it go. How can someone possibly think Katy plays dirty?:confused: Joseph would have done it right there for us all to see, that's for sure.Consider the source. Chick knows absolutely nothing about Katy football which makes her credibility worthless.

[judrok1]

Wow. What a bizarre thread. I sure enjoyed the read, though.

In 30 years of playing and watching Texas HS football, I have never heard that Katy was a dirty team.

Being from the San Antonio area, I HAVE heard that Streety's teams seem to get an awful lot of calls.

Something to chew on: In both 2005 and 2006, when playing Judson, Madison managed to get NO PENALTIES. Two years in a row against the SAME TEAM. Now how does that happen? Madison plays perfect football 2 yrs in a row against the same team? hmmmmmmm.....

I must say I, like most of San Antonio Im sure, a growing tired of all this Madison tripe. Kid hurts his leg, tough break. IT HAPPENS EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT TO SOMEONE. But we had to hear about it AD NAUSEUM. And we had to give it a moment of silent reflection at our game with Madison. BIZARRE. And Streety is not the 2nd coming.....if I have to read another "feel good" article about the Madison Mavericks and their "he's just like a father to us" Coach Streety, I'm gonna puke!

OH, and dont fool yourselves. You were humiliated and embarrassed in your own town, and then some spoiled boys decided to take out on some Katy player the fact that they didn't have the same talent.....Even Weslaco wouldn't have been beaten 66-21!

[D-1]

What? Everything stops at your post? I didn't know that!

I'm sure he's a fine kid... But, on that day, at that time, he didn't act like a good sport... Period... Almost everyone else on the team did... But three did not... He was one of the three...

People are judged by their actions... Those were his and it just happened to be in front of several thousand people... Don't make him out to be something he's not... He acted like a punk... What else would you call it? He's lucky he wasn't playing a less composed team...

And I've got some news for you, Chick... Fighting like THAT does not go on in every game... Maybe over there... But not over here...



ONLY ONE GOT EJECTED

[katyfan52]

Seriously, give it up. Madison is a classy team...and has been noted as one from the beginning. One ejection in one game, and now they are supposed to be treated like this? You guys are making this the most ridiculous arguement. You made a statement that did not jive with our experience of Katy football. We said something about it.
When i say it occurs often, i mean at EVERY level EVERY game day. If not at the high school level, the at the collegiate level(i am a trainer for my college, and we had a kid rip off the opponents helmet and punch him), and if not at the high school or collegiate level...then at the pro level. Then you should have said that, instead of giving the impression that you think it's no big deal, or business as usual.

IT HAPPENS!!

and because of ONE ejection, you feel it neccesary to make a very respectable team into one that lacks class? Its ridiculous,honestly. No, I don't, and I have addressed that specifically in another thread, but I do think to appear to publicly condone the behavior of those 2 (or 3) players is wrong.

And as for the second part...i wont lie. It is hearsay, the moment i found out Madison would be playing Katy, my college's football coaches began telling me about some of the players, how amazing Katy is, and that they have a rep. for being a dirty team. That's a pretty broad statement. That could mean anything from not taking showers to, well, the sort of things that happened last Saturday. So what were your coaches talking about, bad hygiene or gratuitous violence? So yes,it is hearsay from coaches that have seen Katy play. I don't know what college you go to, but you might want to tell your coaches to be careful who they say stuff like that to. They never know when someone might publish it on a message board. Don't post rumor like it is fact.

Anyways, this is childish. My point was not to make EITHER team look bad because neither deserves it. Then you should check what you type before you post. They both played a classy game and for one players actions to denote an entire team is ridiculous.

See red. I know double entendre. I couldn't help myself, it's late.

[katyfan52]

Im still a little confused maybe I should just let it go. How can someone possibly think Katy plays dirty?:confused: Joseph would have done it right there for us all to see, that's for sure.
I think it may have something to do with different ideas of what constitutes "playing dirty". :)

[shooter]

HA HA HA HA HA....lucky kid. Joseph would have and had done it right there, and then in a more personal setting as well I'm sure.

just different styles both get there point home

[Dynastybegan86]

3 Ejections!



I am trying to remember which site I was on when I read it. When I find it, I'll post it.

Here it is..... http://katytimes.com/articles/2007/12/15/sports/00katy.txt


"The game took an ugly turn when one of Madison's Jason McLean led with his helmet and took out Tiger placekicker Raul Balbuena on the extra-point try. 1
Balbuena was helped from the field, hobbled. McLean was rewarded for his actions by being ejected from the game.



Katy's reserves continued the steamrolling in the fourth quarter, with Luis Zavala scoring from six yards out to make it 63-14.

On Katy's next possession, two more Mavericks were ejected for extracurricular behavior 2 and 3, leading Katy to great field position" from the Times article on the game

[KattTx]

Where have you been? Certainly not at many High School football games. This has been a problem all season long in all 4 regions.

Amen!! Which is why - winner or loser begat - this topic is a viable one. During both games at TS yesterday there were some flat out stupid non-calls. Throughout the season, I have seen more bad calls and no calls this year, it seems, than in years past.

It's not about winning or losing (though thankfully no games have hinged on them... yet) but at some point, kids are going to get hurt. I have seen a few games (some Permian and some not) where the refs never had an ounce of control on the field. During an OHS game, two players were SWINGING at each other within 10 feet of an official. NO call. Coaches behaving BADLY. People on the field during regulation time (ie not half time or pre/post game) who had no business on it. The list goes on...

I hope the UIL/ whomever figures out a way to pay em a little more for experience and evaluate performance. I think we need a little more than coaches saying yes we want them or no we don't. Independent review of performance would sure be nice!!

[Mantis]

I think Katy got lost in their too...came out late for both halfs...lol...didnt even have time to do the school song.

That delay was strange. It reminded me of a champion boxer taking his sweet time to come out from the dressing room before a fight while the challenger was left waiting in the ring. It was almost arrogant, but hopefully they were just lost as you mentioned.

[shooter]

3 Ejections!



I am trying to remember which site I was on when I read it. When I find it, I'll post it.


I only remeber seeing one if there were two others i would like to know for sure not just Some "I read it on some site"

[shooter]

That delay was strange. It reminded me of a champion boxer taking his sweet time to come out from the dressing room before a fight while the challenger was left waiting in the ring. It was almost arrogant, but hopefully they were just lost as you mentioned.

They weren’t lost it's not that extravagant under the dome stands believe me. I don't think anyone on the Madison side took offence to it as the same thing happened to Madison in Weslaco but even worse. The Madison team was behind the banner ready to run in when the announcement for the posting of the colors and the playing of the national anthem. It was very odd seeing the team behind the banner looking for a flag to face

[Dynastybegan86]

I only remeber seeing one if there were two others i would like to know for sure not just Some "I read it on some site"

Read the post again, I edited it with the article

[shooter]

3 Ejections!



I am trying to remember which site I was on when I read it. When I find it, I'll post it.

Here it is.....

"The game took an ugly turn when one of Madison's Jason McLean led with his helmet and took out Tiger placekicker Raul Balbuena on the extra-point try.

Balbuena was helped from the field, hobbled. McLean was rewarded for his actions by being ejected from the game.

Katy's reserves continued the steamrolling in the fourth quarter, with Luis Zavala scoring from six yards out to make it 63-14.

On Katy's next possession, two more Mavericks were ejected for extracurricular behavior, leading Katy to great field position" from the Times article on the game

They need to run a correction then

[Dynastybegan86]

They need to run a correction then

I don't really want to say this, but......Why?

[dahutt77]

I would like to first call out the post I read earlier about somone saying that the madison TD was even close because the truth in fact was that i had a chance to watch it today from multiple angels and it was not in.
The ref's i believe did a fair enough job. There were blatant holds on madison that were missed. and only once did it look like a katy defender may have gotten to the ball early. I heard some complaing about Trent Hunter getting to the players early which is completely wrong. I guess because the kid has a great nack for the ball and an amazing ability to time the play he must be cheating, right? The Katy DB's took 8 out of the game. They are as solid of a D as I have ever seen. I pumped to see them face some true speed next week.

[shooter]

I don't really want to say this, but......Why?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1920243123242591273

video shows McLean number 6 in the game in the 4th quarter. Last three clips all show #6 in the frame once making a tackle once congratulating Gafford on a good tackle and once getting himself out of position on a 4th quarter touchdown run. The roughing the kicker was in the third quarter and it was McLean who ran into him trying to block the kick.

The video is from a very reliable source…

[Dynastybegan86]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1920243123242591273

video shows McLean number 6 in the game in the 4th quarter. Last three clips all show #6 in the frame once making a tackle once congratulating Gafford on a good tackle and once getting himself out of position on a 4th quarter touchdown run. The roughing the kicker was in the third quarter and it was McLean who ran into him trying to block the kick.

The video is from a very reliable source…

Then you should call the Katy Times, ask for Nick! There was a player ejected, there were 2 guys that crashed the kicker, McLean is obviously on the field, who was the other guy? IDK. Quite frankly, does it really matter(how many were ejected)? The fact that one was ejected is plenty enough in my book.


Congratulations Madison on your season.

[shooter]

Then you should call the Katy Times, ask for Nick! There was a player ejected, there were 2 guys that crashed the kicker, McLean is obviously on the field, who was the other guy? IDK. Quite frankly, does it really matter(how many were ejected)? The fact that one was ejected is plenty enough in my book.


Congratulations Madison on your season.


I disagree the fact that one was ejected is one too many for me. But I think that’s what you were trying to say anyway. The other kid was #28 Fausick back up, back up DB that was filling in for Lambeth. Fausick was in on the next kick off for Madison (onside kick) after Boyd’s TD reception late in the game. I really don't think they would have tossed anyone for roughing the kicker... It was a penalty but not something anyone would have gotten tossed for. McLean is a strait up kid too I don't think he would have ever gone after the kicker on purpose I think they just over shot

[Dynastybegan86]

I disagree the fact that one was ejected is one too many for me. But I think that’s what you were trying to say anyway. The other kid was #28 Fausick back up, back up DB that was filling in for Lambeth. Fausick was in on the next kick off for Madison (onside kick) after Boyd’s TD reception late in the game. I really don't think they would have tossed anyone for roughing the kicker... It was a penalty but not something anyone would have gotten tossed for. McLean is a strait up kid too I don't think he would have ever gone after the kicker on purpose I think they just over shot

I won't, and don't want to, argue with you. Yes that is what I meant. #6 is fast and a very good player. Thinking back he is the one that kept our #24 from scoring once he broke the line. I remember seeing #6 come from behind on more than one occasion. Again, congratulations on your season. Nice picture, btw.

[kttxboy1254]

stop caring anymore katy!!! its over. we won. on to P-ville :)

[MADFAN#1]

Only reason i brought that up was for the fact it is soo ironic how a madison poster would complain about officiating. I guess karma comes when you least expect it.

Im so flattered you put my quote in your sig. I must've struck a nerve.

Just trying to help you out. You're too young to get an ulcer. LMAO :D

[dada]

Is it normal for a player to be flagged for "helping a guy up"?:D
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/dada4w/jerks.jpg

[longhorn3]

First off, madison should not be comlpaining about ANY calls as far as the playoffs are concerned.

Did yall forget the push-off that wasn't called for the game wining td? Or maybe you forgot about the hook and laterral that was ruled an incomplete pass? How ironic you dont want to talk about the refs that offciated that game.

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black

And second of all, its not like the offciating determined the outcome of the game. Like it did at our game. You got OUTPLAYED and OUTCOACHED by a better team. Stop your whining and excuses already and just let it go. The better team won and everyone knows that. Not to mention the lack of class madison showed by the numerous penalties called on them in the 4th and the two ejections.


If this came from any other poster it would possible have some merit, however it comes from a guy who's team lost 3 weeks ago and is bitter. T-Long let your loss go my friend, its okay. Nobody is making excuses what so ever. We lost, the better team won. You lost your game to the better team..no big deal but time to get over your loss by now don't you think?

[ktytiger58mom]

Is it normal for a player to be flagged for "helping a guy up"?:D
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/dada4w/jerks.jpg

What's with the 3 grown men in orange just standing there, doing and saying nothing? I understand that they may not be coaches, but still......

[dada]

What's with the 3 grown men in orange just standing there, doing and saying nothing? I understand that they may not be coaches, but still......

When you look up and it's 56-14 in the 3rd quarter you don't want to assist anyone wearing the opposite colors.

[Fleeman93]

What's with the 3 grown men in orange just standing there, doing and saying nothing? I understand that they may not be coaches, but still......


They probably didn't do anything because they might have been arrested for getting on the playing surface. It wasn't that big of a deal. I would much rather another team's player go at ours the way this guy did rather than taking a knee shot or something. It was no big deal at all.

[ktytiger58mom]

They probably didn't do anything because they might have been arrested for getting on the playing surface. It wasn't that big of a deal. I would much rather another team's player go at ours the way this guy did rather than taking a knee shot or something. It was no big deal at all.

OK, re-reading my post, I sounded very mommish and "get that player off my player" :o. What was in my head and didn't come out of my fingers is that any one of our coaches would have been red in the face from screaming and yelling at the players to stop the crap and get off the field. They definitely would not be standing on the side with their arms crossed, nonchalantly watching as if it were just another play. I know it's all over, no one was hurt, and we move on - these boys were heartbroken and emotional and it came out on the field. But I expect grown men to know (and act) better.

[samavsfan23]

Is it normal for a player to be flagged for "helping a guy up"?:D
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/dada4w/jerks.jpg

Those 3 grown men in orange are not coaches. The one photog I know is rb-shooter here on the board. The other two are not coaches either. So for them to not do anything would not be something out of the oridinary.

Anyways, enough pictures and mentioning the player ejected. He should not even be talked about. Heck even the radio announcers didn't announce their name when he was tossed. It was wrong thats all there is to it. Good luck Katy and beat Pville.

[dada]

Those 3 grown men in orange are not coaches. The one photog I know is rb-shooter here on the board. The other two are not coaches either. So for them to not do anything would not be something out of the oridinary.

Anyways, enough pictures and mentioning the player ejected. He should not even be talked about. Heck even the radio announcers didn't announce their name when he was tossed. It was wrong thats all there is to it. Good luck Katy and beat Pville.

WHO OWES ME WHATABURGER????? was it YOU?