A&M steals one from the DirtBurglars

[Firebird]

McKinney Boyd's Jeff Fuller, a Rivals 100 prospect and 4 star reciever, has switched his commitment to A&M from Oklahoma.

Also, Beaumont Central's Derrick Hall, a fellow Rivals 100 prospect who was on the fence, has reaffirmed his commit to the Ags.

Looks like Sherman and Co. aren't off to a bad start. Now if we can just get Fuller to catch some balls, rather than throw blocks.:D

[DragonBand06]

McKinney Boyd's Jeff Fuller, a Rivals 100 prospect and 4 star reciever, has switched his commitment to A&M from Oklahoma.

Also, Beaumont Central's Derrick Hall, a fellow Rivals 100 prospect who was on the fence, has reaffirmed his commit to the Ags.

Looks like Sherman and Co. aren't off to a bad start. Now if we can just get Fuller to catch some balls, rather than throw blocks.:DThe more receivers we get the better! More for McGee to work with and Jerrod once he gets his turn. :cool:

[CCDawg]

Granted I only saw McKinney Boyd play one game (against Cove in the playoffs) but I don't know why they didn't use him more. He did have 5 catches for 47 yards against Cove, including a 13 yard TD catch with 1 second left. Maybe it had something to do with their QB playing injured at the time. He was definitely a big receiver, size wise he reminded me of Cove's Rashad Hawk from last year.

[twcpfan1]

McGee showcased his passing ability against Texas. I believe he will have no problems adjusting to whatever system Sherman runs. We'll finally get to see the qb we were all expecting coming out of Burnet.

[lonny23]

McKinney Boyd's Jeff Fuller, a Rivals 100 prospect and 4 star reciever, has switched his commitment to A&M from Oklahoma.

Also, Beaumont Central's Derrick Hall, a fellow Rivals 100 prospect who was on the fence, has reaffirmed his commit to the Ags.

Looks like Sherman and Co. aren't off to a bad start. Now if we can just get Fuller to catch some balls, rather than throw blocks.:D
I don't know. You have some good guys looking elsewhere!:D Sherman did NOT get off to a good start recruiting.

I heard yesterday that Fuller was switching, but I still have no idea why he did it.

[Dawg Fan]

I don't know. You have some good guys looking elsewhere!:D Sherman did NOT get off to a good start recruiting.

I heard yesterday that Fuller was switching, but I still have no idea why he did it.


man you are so full of sh*t..........Sherman just started and you don't have any info on how he will do. You need to worry on who Tech will get to replace Leach, I know I am.

[lonny23]

man you are so full of sh*t..........Sherman just started and you don't have any info on how he will do. You need to worry on who Tech will get to replace Leach, I know I am.
No, I only know what some of their recruits said in the last few weeks.

I didn't say he couldn't or wouldn't do well recruiting. I just said he didn't start off well and that's based upon what the recruits said.

[BoomerSooner]

Rivals said his father played for Texas A&M so I guess it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

[Dawg Fan]

No, I only know what some of their recruits said in the last few weeks.

I didn't say he couldn't or wouldn't do well recruiting. I just said he didn't start off well and that's based upon what the recruits said.


and which recruits did you talk to personally?

[Reaganrattler07]

and which recruits did you talk to personally?

It's a lost cause.....he takes whatever someone says in the paper as gospel.:rolleyes:

[Man Law]

Sherman did NOT get off to a good start recruiting.

I heard yesterday that Fuller was switching, but I still have no idea why he did it.

What a dumb statement to make. Please explain to me how he has not gotten off to a good start. His first move was bringing back Tim Cassidy who played a huge part in getting Fuller to switch to A&M, and has kept this very good recruiting class intact, even during a coaching change.

[jtk1519]

Sherman better get on Tony Jerrod, one of A&M's highest ranked recruits. He visited Kansas this past weekend and he has an official visit scheduled with Texas who just started recruiting him. A&M already lost Dravannti Johnson to Texas. It would be a tough blow to have two of your best defensive recruits in one class both change their commitments to Texas.

[slorch]

Sherman better get on Tony Jerrod, one of A&M's highest ranked recruits. He visited Kansas this past weekend and he has an official visit scheduled with Texas who just started recruiting him. A&M already lost Dravannti Johnson to Texas. It would be a tough blow to have two of your best defensive recruits in one class both change their commitments to Texas.

scoreboard...even the little doggie ones.:o

[Man Law]

Sherman better get on Tony Jerrod, one of A&M's highest ranked recruits. He visited Kansas this past weekend and he has an official visit scheduled with Texas who just started recruiting him. A&M already lost Dravannti Johnson to Texas. It would be a tough blow to have two of your best defensive recruits in one class both change their commitments to Texas.

Not too worried about Tony. Although he does have the issue with questionable grades, he lives with a current aggie football player's dad (Von Miller). He will be an aggie when its all said and done.

Dravannti has been gone for so long that I keep forgetting he was even committed to the aggies. He should be a good player for Texas.

All of A&M's big name recruits are being hit hard by other coaches right now which is what happens when you go through a coaching change. A&M might lose 2 or 3 (like they did when RC was fired), but also might gain 2 or 3 from other schools (Like Fuller, and also maybe Square, Shurgarts, McGuffie, or Dean) that wouldn't have considered A&M while Fran was there. That's why its called recruiting. When its all said and done, I believe A&M will be in pretty good shape recruiting wise.

[Firebird]

Sherman better get on Tony Jerrod, one of A&M's highest ranked recruits. He visited Kansas this past weekend and he has an official visit scheduled with Texas who just started recruiting him. A&M already lost Dravannti Johnson to Texas. It would be a tough blow to have two of your best defensive recruits in one class both change their commitments to Texas.

Fran lost DJ. That's old news. Anytime you have a coaching change, there will be some recruits look elsewhere. Right now A&M has the 11th ranked class. They shot up after we got this WR. I'm thrilled with Sherm and Cassidy's work thus far.

[Bobcat81]

Not too worried about Tony. Although he does have the issue with questionable grades, he lives with a current aggie football player's dad (Von Miller). He will be an aggie when its all said and done.

Dravannti has been gone for so long that I keep forgetting he was even committed to the aggies. He should be a good player for Texas.

All of A&M's big name recruits are being hit hard by other coaches right now which is what happens when you go through a coaching change. A&M might lose 2 or 3 (like they did when RC was fired), but also might gain 2 or 3 from other schools (Like Fuller, and also maybe Square, Shurgarts, McGuffie, or Dean) that wouldn't have considered A&M while Fran was there. That's why its called recruiting. When its all said and done, I believe A&M will be in pretty good shape recruiting wise.


I think that's a fair assessment of the turn around potential. The Sherman name brings in a lot of recruiting power to A&M and i wouldn't be surprised to see some of the big names in the up coming classes to convert.

Under Sherman, A&M is surely going to mix up the schemes on offense which would work nicely towards allocating any of these types of running backs. They would probably need to go after at least three 4-5 star backs for what he has in store. That's certainly less than what Stoops shoots for every year.

There's a lot of light shining through A&M's front door now. A new pathway to the NFL for Aggies with a Sherman stamp on their backs.

[BoomerSooner]

I think that's a fair assessment of the turn around potential. The Sherman name brings in a lot of recruiting power to A&M and i wouldn't be surprised to see some of the big names in the up coming classes to convert.

Under Sherman, A&M is surely going to mix up the schemes on offense which would work nicely towards allocating any of these types of running backs. They would probably need to go after at least three 4-5 star backs for what he has in store. That's certainly less than what Stoops shoots for every year.

There's a lot of light shining through A&M's front door now. A new pathway to the NFL for Aggies with a Sherman stamp on their backs.

I love it that OU has two underclassmen who got significant playing time this year, and yet got the best Running Back in Texas : )

[lonny23]

It's a lost cause.....he takes whatever someone says in the paper as gospel.:rolleyes:
No, I don't take whatever someone says as gospel. There are lot's of things that are said that I disagree with.

There are things that I don't say on this board on purpose. One of them is most of the recruiting things. I'm not here to hurt Tech's efforts or help the efforts of others. There is a statement made in this thread that is false and I knew it was false last week when it was reported falsely and got a laugh out of it, but never said anything and I won't say anything now.

[slorch]

Would you neccessarily want a kid that thinks, " Well, now that Fran is gone, I don't want to be part of your program?"

[ntgnate08]

with sherman now in charge...i like what opportunities that gives our talented offense. mcgee showed what he can do in a passing game type atmosphere(against texas). offensively i like where we are, like to see some bigger and taller receivers...but as for backs i think we are gonna get alot out of goodson in the next 2 years...but i would hope that sherman starts looking at backs for the future, oh lets say the senior marcus wright from SA reagan if he as not committed any where yet...

[lonny23]

I'll be a naysayer. I don't see A&M being any better in 5 years than they are now.

[DragonBand06]

I'll be a naysayer. I don't see A&M being any better in 5 years than they are now.I'll be a yaysayer. I do see A&M being better in 5 years than they are now.

[slorch]

score is tied.

Must be another aggie win...:rolleyes:

[ntgnate08]

i see in another 5 years finally winning a big 12 title

[yankee]

with sherman now in charge...i like what opportunities that gives our talented offense. mcgee showed what he can do in a passing game type atmosphere(against texas). offensively i like where we are, like to see some bigger and taller receivers...but as for backs i think we are gonna get alot out of goodson in the next 2 years...but i would hope that sherman starts looking at backs for the future, oh lets say the senior marcus wright from SA reagan if he as not committed any where yet...

wright's already committed to tulsa...

[Firebird]

wright's already committed to tulsa...

If some of the big boys start giving him a full court press he won't stay committed to Tulsa much longer. I don't think A&M is going to be pressing too hard for him, though, we are pretty set at RB. Especially if Hall stays committed.

[Firebird]

I'll be a naysayer. I don't see A&M being any better in 5 years than they are now.

:eek:

The surprises from Lonny never stop.

[Dawg Fan]

I'll be a naysayer. I don't see A&M being any better in 5 years than they are now.

That means so much coming from you:rolleyes:

[Man Law]

with sherman now in charge...i like what opportunities that gives our talented offense. mcgee showed what he can do in a passing game type atmosphere(against texas). offensively i like where we are, like to see some bigger and taller receivers...but as for backs i think we are gonna get alot out of goodson in the next 2 years...but i would hope that sherman starts looking at backs for the future, oh lets say the senior marcus wright from SA reagan if he as not committed any where yet...

A&M is set at RB for the future (Lane, Goodson, Keondra Smith, Cornell Tarrant, Bradley Stephens, Derrick Hall, and more than likely one of the following 3: Cyrus Gray, Sam McGuffie, or Aundre Dean as well to add on to this years class. My money is on Gray.

[Reaganrattler07]

If some of the big boys start giving him a full court press he won't stay committed to Tulsa much longer. I don't think A&M is going to be pressing too hard for him, though, we are pretty set at RB. Especially if Hall stays committed.

The only school Wright will go to is Georgia.(Other than Tulsa)

You can take that to the bank.

[TXFOOSBALL]

A&M is set at RB for the future (Lane, Goodson, Keondra Smith, Cornell Tarrant, Bradley Stephens, Derrick Hall, and more than likely one of the following 3: Cyrus Gray, Sam McGuffie, or Aundre Dean as well to add on to this years class. My money is on Gray.

You will more than likely get none of those three. IMO

[Firebird]

The only school Wright will go to is Georgia.(Other than Tulsa)

You can take that to the bank.

Why on earth would he pass up BCS offers to go play for the Golden Hurricanes? I don't doubt you, since you're a Reagan guy, but it makes no sense. Tulsa has had some nice years, but still...it's Tulsa.

[BoomerSooner]

:eek:

The surprises from Lonny never stop.

Can you blame him?
Some A&M fans were predicting a conference championship/BCS national title this season. Many Texags posters said two losses would be a disappointment. A&M fans hailed Fran as the savior of the program. I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude. A lot of people have trouble adjusting from the pros to college and vice versa. I think he is certainly capable, but it may not happen.

[Firebird]

Can you blame him?
Some A&M fans were predicting a conference championship/BCS national title this season. Many Texags posters said two losses would be a disappointment. A&M fans hailed Fran as the savior of the program. I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude. A lot of people have trouble adjusting from the pros to college and vice versa. I think he is certainly capable, but it may not happen.

Some Tech fans were predicting a ten win season and "walking out of Austin a happy man". Just goes to show that delusion isn't limited to Ags.

Can Sherman fail? Sure. There's nothing certain in this game. Like I said, I'm cautiously optimistic. I like the fact that the Sooners lost one of the nation's best recruits to us, and I like the Tim Cassidy hire. I like that Sherman went with a lower salary and is looking for some great assistants. I like the way he has comported himself thus far, and I like the fact that he's thrilled to be back in Aggieland. I'm going to judge him on his performance, which is why I refuse to either throw him under the bus or put him on a pedastal just yet.

As far as all the pundits...just remember how virtually every sports bloviator in America hailed the Fran hire. Just to show you how great a judge these guys really are, here's a column from The Sporting News in 2001. Why is it relevant: It's a professional sports writer wishing USC had pursued Fran instead of Carroll:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_1_225/ai_69058326

[BoomerSooner]

Some Tech fans were predicting a ten win season and "walking out of Austin a happy man". Just goes to show that delusion isn't limited to Ags.

Can Sherman fail? Sure. There's nothing certain in this game. Like I said, I'm cautiously optimistic. I like the fact that the Sooners lost one of the nation's best recruits to us, and I like the Tim Cassidy hire. I like that Sherman went with a lower salary and is looking for some great assistants. I like the way he has comported himself thus far, and I like the fact that he's thrilled to be back in Aggieland. I'm going to judge him on his performance, which is why I refuse to either throw him under the bus or put him on a pedastal just yet.

As far as all the pundits...just remember how virtually every sports bloviator in America hailed the Fran hire. Just to show you how great a judge these guys really are, here's a column from The Sporting News in 2001. Why is it relevant: It's a professional sports writer wishing USC had pursued Fran instead of Carroll:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_1_225/ai_69058326


And I wasn't trying to single out A&M in particular, just saying that Lonny might not be too off base believing A&M will still be where they are in 5 years. Very nice article by the way.

[lonny23]

Can you blame him?
Some A&M fans were predicting a conference championship/BCS national title this season. Many Texags posters said two losses would be a disappointment. A&M fans hailed Fran as the savior of the program. I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude. A lot of people have trouble adjusting from the pros to college and vice versa. I think he is certainly capable, but it may not happen.
Yeah,

It can't possibly be because these are the head coaches records at A&M since Dana X. Bible left:

Madison Bell 24-21-3 (1929-1933) Not good enough
Homer Norton 82-53-9 (1934-1947)
Harry Stiteler 8-21-2 (1948-1950) Not good enough
Raymond George 12-14-4 (1951-1953) Not good enough
Paul "Bear" Bryant 25-14-2 (1954-1957)
Jim Myers 12-24-4 (1958-1961) Not good enough
Hank Foldberg 6-23-1 (1962-1964) Not good enough
Gene Stallings 27-45-1 (1965-1971) Not good enough
Emory Bellard 48-27 (1972-1977)
Tom Wilson 21-19 (1978-1981) Not good enough
Jackie Sherrill 52-28-1 (1982-1988)
R.C. Slocum 123-47-2 (1989-2002)
Dennis Franchione 32-28 (2003-2007) Not good enough

That's 13 coaches and 8 didn't work out. Of the other 5, I have this to say:

1. I don't know much about Norton, but he won your national title and D.X. Bible was the only other good coach for the Ags from 1894 until 1954 when Bear Bryant took over.

2. The "Bear" was a good coach, but he left for greener pastures.

3. You guys probably loved Bellard. The Ags won as much as they did in his years because his teams were downright dirty. Their mantra was to cheapshot the best players out of games since they weren't good enough to beat them fairly.

4. Jackie found a way to make A&M relevant. It didn't involve following the rules, but you were relevant and that hasn't happened much.

5. R.C. was the best coach you ever hired that actually wanted to stay. You blew it when you canned him.

Basically, I'm playing the odds that A&M will be somewhat like they've always been in the past. I still say that the boosters are too meddlesome and impatient to actually get a good coach at A&M. I think Fran was a better coach than Sherman will end up being.

[Firebird]

Yeah,

It can't possibly be because these are the head coaches records at A&M since Dana X. Bible left:

Madison Bell 24-21-3 (1929-1933) Not good enough
Homer Norton 82-53-9 (1934-1947)
Harry Stiteler 8-21-2 (1948-1950) Not good enough
Raymond George 12-14-4 (1951-1953) Not good enough
Paul "Bear" Bryant 25-14-2 (1954-1957)
Jim Myers 12-24-4 (1958-1961) Not good enough
Hank Foldberg 6-23-1 (1962-1964) Not good enough
Gene Stallings 27-45-1 (1965-1971) Not good enough
Emory Bellard 48-27 (1972-1977)
Tom Wilson 21-19 (1978-1981) Not good enough
Jackie Sherrill 52-28-1 (1982-1988)
R.C. Slocum 123-47-2 (1989-2002)
Dennis Franchione 32-28 (2003-2007) Not good enough

That's 13 coaches and 8 didn't work out. Of the other 5, I have this to say:

1. I don't know much about Norton, but he won your national title and D.X. Bible was the only other good coach for the Ags from 1894 until 1954 when Bear Bryant took over.

2. The "Bear" was a good coach, but he left for greener pastures.

3. You guys probably loved Bellard. The Ags won as much as they did in his years because his teams were downright dirty. Their mantra was to cheapshot the best players out of games since they weren't good enough to beat them fairly.

4. Jackie found a way to make A&M relevant. It didn't involve following the rules, but you were relevant and that hasn't happened much.

5. R.C. was the best coach you ever hired that actually wanted to stay. You blew it when you canned him.

Basically, I'm playing the odds that A&M will be somewhat like they've always been in the past. I still say that the boosters are too meddlesome and impatient to actually get a good coach at A&M. I think Fran was a better coach than Sherman will end up being.

A&M's past coaches have no bearing on the situation whatsoever. I find it hilariously amusing that you confidently charge into a BCS and Big 12 champ. future with a Texas Tech team that has not won an outright conference championship since the Border Conference was in business. There's some historical odds for you. More historical odds-- the last coach to win 10 seasons at Texas Tech bolted. Yet none of that gets brought up in your analysis of Tech football. For good reason-- examining what happened in 1977 gives you absolutely no prescience about what might happen in 2008. The two have nothing to do with each other.

Nothing previous to 1970, when we were an all-male school has any bearing on Texas A&M as it exists today. Texas A&M is currently seeing success in virtually every sport save football-- something else that is historically out of character for us. That's directly related to the fact that A&M has in 35 years gone from a small, all-male agricultural school to one of the largest universities in the country, one of the 100 best universities in the world, with one of the nation's largest athletic departments.

As far as your last bit about meddlesome boosters-- I would a whole lot rather have people that expect and want the very best than I would a crowd of people thrilled with losing 4 games every flipping season, and who believe those results are indicative of the greatest coach of all time. If you're gonna strike out, at least go down swinging. You'll never get a great program built if mediocre is viewed as OK.

[slorch]

As far as your last bit about meddlesome boosters-- I would a whole lot rather have people that expect and want the very best than I would a crowd of people thrilled with losing 4 games every flipping season, and who believe those results are indicative of the greatest coach of all time. If you're gonna strike out, at least go down swinging. You'll never get a great program built if mediocre is viewed as OK.

and what difference has it gotten you?

i agree with what you posted, but that one thought jumped out at me...

also the last sentence implies that Tech hasn't been trying, just because the boosters aren't unrealistic. I can honestly say, we head into this GatorBowl and next season with as much optimism( not an illusion, but realistic opportunities) as any season I can remember.
1)We have a coach that we don't want to leave.
2)we have an offense that is attracting the right kind of players
3)the defense is going to get better with the JuCo commits. I am willing to give Ruffin McNeil an offseason to put his stamp on the D. next season is going to be money time, and I hope that he earns a new contract with Tech as the DC. That will mean he was successful. if the D steps up, i cannot think of anyone in college football that would be overjoyed to play the Red Raiders, by thinking they have an easy win.
4)both sides of the ball are returning beaucoup starters, from this overachieving team. say what you will, but NOBODY this side of lonnyboy expected a Bowl trip to Jacksonville this season.

I don't waste my time by trying to make the Ags look bad. I really have made an effort to stay out of that crap, other than a jab here and there to keep it real. I know they have historically been a better program than Tech. i think right now, Tech is on its way to making itself better than A&M on the football field. We may never have the same money, facilities, or tradition, but we are living in the 'here and now" and trying to make a difference today. If you choose to measure commitment to winning by bumper stickers and message board griping, well, then A&M probably has us beaten there too. The Aggies can only hope for improvement right now in College Station. I know the day Fran left, our insured wins went out the door as well.:(

[Man Law]

You will more than likely get none of those three. IMO

We'll see, but if I was a betting man, I would put my money on Cyrus Gray signing with the Ags in Feb. :D

[jtk1519]

ou sucks

[Firebird]

say what you will, but NOBODY this side of lonnyboy expected a Bowl trip to Jacksonville this season.

I don't waste my time by trying to make the Ags look bad. I really have made an effort to stay out of that crap, other than a jab here and there to keep it real. I know they have historically been a better program than Tech. i think right now, Tech is on its way to making itself better than A&M on the football field. We may never have the same money, facilities, or tradition, but we are living in the 'here and now" and trying to make a difference today. If you choose to measure commitment to winning by bumper stickers and message board griping, well, then A&M probably has us beaten there too. The Aggies can only hope for improvement right now in College Station. I know the day Fran left, our insured wins went out the door as well.:(


Originally posted by Firebird, 2-27-2007.

What I want to know is, where these predictions for 5th or 6th place finish by Tech is coming from? Tech has never finished lower than 4th in the Big 12 South, and they are returning a pretty decent core team from last year's fourth place finishers. I don't see any lower than 4th or higher than 3rd for the Raiders this year-- in other words, business as usual.

No bowl prediction there, because it's way too complicated that early in the year to guess which bowls are going to pursue Big XII teams, but I did pick Tech's finish. They are 4-4 in the south this year, with a better overall record than OSU and TAMU. 3rd place, with a bowl to match their finish.

I don't waste my breath trying to make any program look bad. Just trying to make Lonny see that his "logic" cuts both ways. I think that overactive boosters and apathetic boosters can undercut a program, though I'm not sure which is worse.

For the record, I think that Leach is a good coach and that Tech has a lot of indicators that point towards getting better. There are still some things that trouble me-- namely, the last time Tech had a deep team with lots of returning starters "team chemistry" was blamed for an underachieving season. I also don't like the way Leach is quick to point the finger at his players after any loss. There are some things he can do better. And it might do him some good if the heat got turned up just a bit.

[slorch]

I think expectations( the heat) will be plenty high when August 2008 rolls around...I agree that it is positive to have some pressure there. I actually think Harrell plays better when the pressure is on.

[Dawg Fan]

Saying Tech's defense will get better is not much of a stretch. I hope your right but I'll wait until I see it.

[Dawg Fan]

A&M's past coaches have no bearing on the situation whatsoever. I find it hilariously amusing that you confidently charge into a BCS and Big 12 champ. future with a Texas Tech team that has not won an outright conference championship since the Border Conference was in business. There's some historical odds for you. More historical odds-- the last coach to win 10 seasons at Texas Tech bolted. Yet none of that gets brought up in your analysis of Tech football. For good reason-- examining what happened in 1977 gives you absolutely no prescience about what might happen in 2008. The two have nothing to do with each other.

Nothing previous to 1970, when we were an all-male school has any bearing on Texas A&M as it exists today. Texas A&M is currently seeing success in virtually every sport save football-- something else that is historically out of character for us. That's directly related to the fact that A&M has in 35 years gone from a small, all-male agricultural school to one of the largest universities in the country, one of the 100 best universities in the world, with one of the nation's largest athletic departments.

As far as your last bit about meddlesome boosters-- I would a whole lot rather have people that expect and want the very best than I would a crowd of people thrilled with losing 4 games every flipping season, and who believe those results are indicative of the greatest coach of all time. If you're gonna strike out, at least go down swinging. You'll never get a great program built if mediocre is viewed as OK.

excellent post!

[lonny23]

and what difference has it gotten you?

i agree with what you posted, but that one thought jumped out at me...

also the last sentence implies that Tech hasn't been trying, just because the boosters aren't unrealistic. I can honestly say, we head into this GatorBowl and next season with as much optimism( not an illusion, but realistic opportunities) as any season I can remember.
1)We have a coach that we don't want to leave.
2)we have an offense that is attracting the right kind of players
3)the defense is going to get better with the JuCo commits. I am willing to give Ruffin McNeil an offseason to put his stamp on the D. next season is going to be money time, and I hope that he earns a new contract with Tech as the DC. That will mean he was successful. if the D steps up, i cannot think of anyone in college football that would be overjoyed to play the Red Raiders, by thinking they have an easy win.
4)both sides of the ball are returning beaucoup starters, from this overachieving team. say what you will, but NOBODY this side of lonnyboy expected a Bowl trip to Jacksonville this season.

I don't waste my time by trying to make the Ags look bad. I really have made an effort to stay out of that crap, other than a jab here and there to keep it real. I know they have historically been a better program than Tech. i think right now, Tech is on its way to making itself better than A&M on the football field. We may never have the same money, facilities, or tradition, but we are living in the 'here and now" and trying to make a difference today. If you choose to measure commitment to winning by bumper stickers and message board griping, well, then A&M probably has us beaten there too. The Aggies can only hope for improvement right now in College Station. I know the day Fran left, our insured wins went out the door as well.:(Yes, A&M has historically been better than us. They have more wins and have won the Big 12. I didn't comment on Tech, but we seem to be on our way up.

On that Gator Bowl thing, I have to be in a small minority anywhere that actually picked Tech to play in the Gator Bowl before the season, especially with it not being a full-time Big 12 bowl!:D I wish I could find that post where I picked the records and bowls for all the teams. I know I had UT 1st, Tech 2nd, and OU 3rd.

[TXFOOSBALL]

We'll see, but if I was a betting man, I would put my money on Cyrus Gray signing with the Ags in Feb. :D

I think Cyrus Gray is the only one you have a chance with. Maybe with a new coach and maybe his old HS teammates already on the team can persuade him.

[ntgnate08]

for the few that say we(A&M) might have a chance with recruiting sam mcguffie. he has already comitted to michigan...like 2 months ago. and no offense mcguffie but i like our chances with others backs than him.

[TXFOOSBALL]

for the few that say we(A&M) might have a chance with recruiting sam mcguffie. he has already comitted to michigan...like 2 months ago. and no offense mcguffie but i like our chances with others backs than him.

I dont know how anyone could say that A&M would have a good chance of getting Mcguffie or Dean.

[pied]

I dont know how anyone could say that A&M would have a good chance of getting Mcguffie or Dean.

Well both are committed to schools without coaches.

In McGuffie's case a$m was #2. Not certain abut Dean.

[TXFOOSBALL]

Well both are committed to schools without coaches.

In McGuffie's case a$m was #2. Not certain abut Dean.

Where has he mentioned A&M as his #2 school?? I think he chose Michigan because he loves the school, liked the players that were committed and there for the future, and saw the chance to play early. In interviews he had said that he would like to play the slot and Rb (like Reggie Bush at USC) but that Michigan would prolly just use him at RB. Sounds to me like he might enjoy a new style of offense at Michigan.



I guess they have an outside chance with Dean but I dont see it happening. He has many more options now after receiving scholarships from programs like Ohio St and Alabama. He is quoted on wanting to visit Arizona St, Louisville, Bama, and Ohio St. I think A&M is out of his mind at this point.

[slorch]

Where has he mentioned A&M as his #2 school?? I think A&M is out of his mind at this point.

I believe the kid is part bunny rabbit( skills) and part owl( wisdom.):D

[jtk1519]

Mike Leach met with UCLA yesterday and has been pushing for that job. If UCLA hires Leach, then I would expect Dean to bolt quickly, but supposedly UCLA's top choice is Norm Chow and Dean would be an absolute fool to not want to play for Chow.

[slorch]

Mike Leach met with UCLA yesterday and has been pushing for that job. If UCLA hires Leach, then I would expect Dean to bolt quickly, but supposedly UCLA's top choice is Norm Chow and Dean would be an absolute fool to not want to play for Chow.

keep your foot on the gas dude...

Both you and Herbie are in the running for biggest rumor-mongeror

[Dawg Fan]

keep your foot on the gas dude...

Both you and Herbie are in the running for biggest rumor-mongeror

He is by far one of the most decorated fishermen on this forum:notworthy

[ntgnate08]

actually sam mcguffies 2nd choice was A&M then notre dame 3rd...but mcguffie is not that great of a back...he is only so popular because of his little hurdle over josh smith from cy creek! so i would rather see him not come to A&M...im perfectly fine with mike goodson leading the way!!!

[slorch]

actually sam mcguffies 2nd choice was A&M then notre dame 3rd...but mcguffie is not that great of a back...he is only so popular because of his little hurdle over josh smith from cy creek! so i would rather see him not come to A&M...im perfectly fine with mike goodson leading the way!!!

no, he's popular because he runs like a human pinball.

should we expect the pearland dude to be objective on this subject?

[ntgnate08]

well a pinball that played against terrible defenses in his district...considering he could not get past the pearland D last inthe playoffs(oh considering that was his breakout year) and also he couldnt get past the third round again losing to the north shore defense. hmmmm seems to me he cant win in a big game against big defenses... i have seen this guy play 13 times trust me you wont here about him in college!

[slorch]

well a pinball that played against terrible defenses in his district...considering he could not get past the pearland D last inthe playoffs(oh considering that was his breakout year) and also he couldnt get past the third round again losing to the north shore defense. hmmmm seems to me he cant win in a big game against big defenses... i have seen this guy play 13 times trust me you wont here about him in college!

OK. maybe you're right. it wouldn't be the first time someone was overhyped.

[ntgnate08]

i mean yeah he deserves his credit for his 3000+ yard year. but wont be a player that A&M needs on the roster.

[Firebird]

i mean yeah he deserves his credit for his 3000+ yard year. but wont be a player that A&M needs on the roster.

Any school could use a player like McGuffie on the roster. He's that kind of special. Some could use his help more than others, but he'd contribute virtually anywhere. Maybe not USC.

[HUM398]

Any school could use a player like McGuffie on the roster. He's that kind of special. Some could use his help more than others, but he'd contribute virtually anywhere. Maybe not USC.

Texas obviously didnt want or need him.

[Firebird]

Texas obviously didnt want or need him.

There are players out there that Texas wished they had on their roster......

[slorch]

There are players out there that Texas wished they had on their roster......

yeah, like a QB...:rolleyes:

[jtk1519]

There are players out there that Texas wished they had on their roster......

Lots of players, but their are only 85 scholarships available.

[Firebird]

Lots of players, but their are only 85 scholarships available.

And Texas never directs one of those the wrong direction:rolleyes:

Point is, there are plenty of players in the country that could come in and contribute at UT today, even if allmighty MB didn't recruit them originally.

[jtk1519]

And Texas never directs one of those the wrong direction:rolleyes:

Point is, there are plenty of players in the country that could come in and contribute at UT today, even if allmighty MB didn't recruit them originally.

And who exactly was arguing otherwise?

[lonny23]

Mike Leach met with UCLA yesterday and has been pushing for that job. If UCLA hires Leach, then I would expect Dean to bolt quickly, but supposedly UCLA's top choice is Norm Chow and Dean would be an absolute fool to not want to play for Chow.
Mike Leach did not meet with UCLA. He went to CA on Monday night and left early on Tuesday and didn't meet with UCLA.

[jtk1519]

Mike Leach did not meet with UCLA. He went to CA on Monday night and left early on Tuesday and didn't meet with UCLA.

According to published reports, Leach met with the UCLA AD for a few hours at LAX.

[lonny23]

He is by far one of the most decorated fishermen on this forum:notworthy
It's not funny. Those who post here often know it's not true, but for the casual reader, we owe more than that to not promote B.S. stories.

[lonny23]

According to published reports, Leach met with the UCLA AD for a few hours at LAX.
I realize published reports said he was going to meet with them, but they weren't true and I told you guys a few days that they weren't true.

If you've spent any kind of time reading published reports, you'd know how many lies they tell in them.

[jtk1519]

I realize published reports said he was going to meet with them, but they weren't true and I told you guys a few days that they weren't true.

If you've spent any kind of time reading published reports, you'd know how many lies they tell in them.

They are true and the meeting did take place on Tuesday, but as often been said, the interest is more Leach wanting to go to UCLA rather than UCLA wanting Leach. UCLA considers him a candidate and so they are going through the initial "talks" process, but he will not be considered a serious candidate and he will not be interviewed before a few others who are higher on UCLA's list.

[slorch]

They are true and the meeting did take place on Tuesday, but as often been said, the interest is more Leach wanting to go to UCLA rather than UCLA wanting Leach. UCLA considers him a candidate and so they are going through the initial "talks" process, but he will not be considered a serious candidate and he will not be interviewed before a few others who are higher on UCLA's list.

now we have motive...:rolleyes:

cut the crap, or Pacey gets it in the noodle

[jtk1519]

now we have motive...:rolleyes:

cut the crap, or Pacey gets it in the noodle

Which noodle?

[slorch]

Which noodle?

th one that's not in your _____(:Censor:):D

[jtk1519]

th one that's not in your _____(:Censor:):D

You're still going to have to narrow it down. :D

[Dawg Fan]

It's not funny. Those who post here often know it's not true, but for the casual reader, we owe more than that to not promote B.S. stories.

Your one of those do as I say and not as I do kinda guys aren't you? I read some of the crap you have thrown at A & M with your blind hate so don't try to come on here and tell us what we owe to anyone. Jeez:rolleyes:

[jtk1519]

Your one of those do as I say and not as I do kinda guys aren't you? I read some of the crap you have thrown at A & M with your blind hate so don't try to come on here and tell us what we owe to anyone. Jeez:rolleyes:

You're

[Dawg Fan]

You're

thanks..........:o

[jtk1519]

thanks..........:o

No problem.