Plano finally has to play somebody

[maxtor]

Plano, meet Trinity.

[Favpack]

Let's don't hate on Plano because of earlier upsets. And, you're crazy if you think Westfield was anything other than a top 10 team. The Wildcats are a slight favorite to me in this one because of their balance. ET could win it - and many will say they should - but Plano is on fire right now.

[CKE]

Plano, meet Trinity.

Plano welcome to the world of SLC

SLC vs. MNW(somebody) loss
SLC vs. district(nobody)win
SLC vs. Abilene(somebody)loss

not one to talk Dragon ;)

[NHB06]

FYI - You don't make it to the state semi's by accident. Plano is peaking at the right time and has earned every win. Should be a classic match up.

[maxtor]

Plano on fire? Maybe so but they will be summarily dispatched come Saturday.:)
I dont have anything against Plano. Heck, I dont remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year.
I'm just saying that Trinity isnt Skyline or has-been Westfield.

[maxtor]

Plano welcome to the world of SLC

SLC vs. MNW(somebody) loss
SLC vs. district(nobody)win
SLC vs. Abilene(somebody)loss

not one to talk Dragon ;)

LOL, what ever gives you a zing I guess.
I got one, I'm rubber, your glue what you say bounces off me and sticks to you.:rolleyes:

[NHB06]

When was the last time you caught a Plano game? You obviously don't know what you are talking about. I doubt the Haka think next weeks game will be a cakewalk.

[ScottS]

Plano vs Trinity should be a great game.

[texas-buckeye]

Plano welcome to the world of SLC

SLC vs. MNW(somebody) loss
SLC vs. district(nobody)win
SLC vs. Abilene(somebody)loss

not one to talk Dragon ;)

CKE I would expect that from Zippy but not you. I'm disappointed.

[CKE]

CKE I would expect that from Zippy but not you. I'm disappointed.

just a friendly jab...thought it would be a valid point sorry :cry

[SLC93]

This will be a must see type of a game. Plano is a great squad. Trinity, however, is a tremendous squad and will take this game.

[slcdragonfan]

Plano welcome to the world of SLC

SLC vs. MNW(somebody) loss
SLC vs. district(nobody)win
SLC vs. Abilene(somebody)loss

not one to talk Dragon ;)

So look who brings up SLC in a Plano thread.:eek: Big Surprise.

CKE, you might as well move to Southlake, it is obvious you have
huge Southlake envy. Come on in, you know the water is fine.;)

[SLC93]

FYI - You don't make it to the state semi's by accident. Plano is peaking at the right time and has earned every win. Should be a classic match up.

100% correct. There is no arguing that. Problem is Trinity is on crescendo that has been building since week two. They have yet to do anything but improve. No regession at all. That defense is the difference and they are going to give Plano fits. 14 points for an explosive and balanced Bowie team today along with lastweek's dismantling of Mojo are all I need to point to.

[texas-buckeye]

just a friendly jab...thought it would be a valid point sorry :cry
Validation is 5 straight trips to the championship game with four victories.A jab is for those who are bitter, let it go and move on:)

[CKE]

So look who brings up SLC in a Plano thread.:eek: Big Surprise.

CKE, you might as well move to Southlake, it is obvious you have
huge Southlake envy. Come on in, you know the water is fine.;)

i thought maxtor was from Southlake....anyway I was fortunate enough to be blessed with twin boys on nov.2 when asking them where they wanted to play football they smiled for SV, SLC,Katy and Permian they didn't like Plano,Trinity,midland and Judson so much...you might see me there in about 10 years or so :D ;)

[CKE]

Validation is 5 straight trips to the championship game with four victories.A jab is for those who are bitter, let it go and move on:)

No bitterness at all like I said I thought it was a valid point maxtor was not talking about Plano of the past years and I was not talking about SLC of past years we were talking about this year

[Biggems]

I hope Trinity wins this game.

[chickenheart1]

I hope Trinity wins this game.

I love it when people think Plano is a pushover. Trinity, meet Rex Burkehead & company. They will pop you sqaure in the mouth...;)

[TrinityProud]

I love it when people think Plano is a pushover. Trinity, meet Rex Burkehead & company. They will pop you sqaure in the mouth...;)

maybe---if they can reach that high....:D

[Pingdude]

Plano on fire? Maybe so but they will be summarily dispatched come Saturday.:)
I dont have anything against Plano. Heck, I dont remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year.
I'm just saying that Trinity isnt Skyline or has-been Westfield.

"I don't remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year."

Typical bad grammar by the Maxie Man, but also one of the most outright lies that I have ever read (even for a message board). You live to talk negatively about Plano. Just be honest with yourself

Why not you go watch basketball, and let Trinity do their own smack talk.

[dragonsdaddy]

"I don't remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year."

Typical bad grammar by the Maxie Man, but also one of the most outright lies that I have ever read (even for a message board). You live to talk negatively about Plano. Just be honest with yourself

Why not you go watch basketball, and let Trinity do their own smack talk.
ping, i had nothing better to do waiting for the boys to start, so i used the software provided by this site to review maxtor's posts since week 1, and i have come to the conclusion that you are either a liar, an arsonist, or just don't like max. by my vision enhanced eyes, i can't see where he has typed the word plano without the follow-on east or west, until today. if that is living to do something, it must be pretty boring to be him. maybe you can do some research and prove yourself better than i could.

[SLC93]

I love it when people think Plano is a pushover. Trinity, meet Rex Burkehead & company. They will pop you sqaure in the mouth...;)

Fair enough, but have Burkhead and company ever punched a mouth painted on a brickwall? It leaves a wicked mark.

[SLC93]

"I don't remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year."

Typical bad grammar by the Maxie Man, but also one of the most outright lies that I have ever read (even for a message board). You live to talk negatively about Plano. Just be honest with yourself

Why not you go watch basketball, and let Trinity do their own smack talk.

My guess would be because he's a football fan and there is a ton of great football left to be played.

[chickenheart1]

Plano welcome to the world of SLC

SLC vs. MNW(somebody) loss
SLC vs. district(nobody)win
SLC vs. Abilene(somebody)loss

not one to talk Dragon ;)
Plano's been here before. SLC broke our hearts in 05 but they never forgot that we played them. I heard that straight from Coach Dodge at UNT.

[Pingdude]

ping, i had nothing better to do waiting for the boys to start, so i used the software provided by this site to review maxtor's posts since week 1, and i have come to the conclusion that you are either a liar, an arsonist, or just don't like max. by my vision enhanced eyes, i can't see where he has typed the word plano without the follow-on east or west, until today. if that is living to do something, it must be pretty boring to be him. maybe you can do some research and prove yourself better than i could.

Yep he has been remarkably positive about Plano over the years on the Rivals board right. You no doubt have me on this board so I guess that makes me a liar (man that hurts). The live-for comment was a little strong, but so was the start of this thread. Going after a team and a group of kids that have advanced to this stage of the PO's is uncalled for. Acceptable would be you think Trinity will win because they have played a stronger schedule> but to diminsh Plano's achievements to this point is not acceptable.

You in particular should recognize the basketball reference. What is the line that you used to pound us with? Oh I remember it well if you can't after SLC dispatched Plano from the PO's a couple of years ago you greeted us Plano supporters with "time to pump up the basketballs boys " It is a great line of your's and I hope you do not mind me using it or variation of it when it fits.

[Butch Fifield]

pretty sure that dragonsdaddy is rooting for the Cats seeing as how he is one.

[dragonsdaddy]

Yep he has been remarkably positive about Plano over the years on the Rivals board right. You no doubt have me on this board so I guess that makes me a liar (man that hurts). The live-for comment was a little strong, but so was the start of this thread. Going after a team and a group of kids that have advanced to this stage of the PO's is uncalled for. Acceptable would be you think Trinity will win because they have played a stronger schedule> but to diminsh Plano's achievements to this point is not acceptable.

You in particular should recognize the basketball reference. What is the line that you used to pound us with? Oh I remember it well if you can't after SLC dispatched Plano from the PO's a couple of years ago you greeted us Plano supporters with "time to pump up the basketballs boys " It is a great line of your's and I hope you do not mind me using it or variation of it when it fits.i'll have to go with your opinion on the other boards. as far as the basketball reference, i am unable to prove or disprove it, but considering i'm a plano fan, too, i'm at a loss to come up with a situation where i would belittle other plano fans. at least wildcat fans. now pesh is another matter.

[Pingdude]

i'll have to go with your opinion on the other boards. as far as the basketball reference, i am unable to prove or disprove it, but considering i'm a plano fan, too, i'm at a loss to come up with a situation where i would belittle other plano fans. at least wildcat fans. now pesh is another matter.

So you are accepting of Maxtor belittling accomplishments to date ?

If you were a true Plano fan you would getting after him and not me.

See you later, you win you are right etc.

Keep on defending the Plano turf buddy , you are doing a great job so far.

[dragonsdaddy]

So you are accepting of Maxtor belittling accomplishments to date ?

If you were a true Plano fan you would getting after him and not me.

See you later, you win you are right etc.

Keep on defending the Plano turf buddy , you are doing a great job so far.

next time, i'll get in touch before i comment so as to get your approval. as to the validity of another poster's opinions, while i do prefer the glass half full approach, no one has asked me to be the moderator.

coming out of 9-5a, plano had plenty of comp, imo, and can only play the teams that show up on sats. they have dominated and i fully expect a win at ts. i also believe they would have rolled up on all the teams et has played too, fwiw.

[drgnbkr]

i thought maxtor was from Southlake....anyway I was fortunate enough to be blessed with twin boys on nov.2 when asking them where they wanted to play football they smiled for SV, SLC,Katy and Permian they didn't like Plano,Trinity,midland and Judson so much...you might see me there in about 10 years or so :D ;)

Are you kidding me? Twins? I didn't even know there was a woman anywhere who could put up with you..:D Congratulations! (So they are speaking about Southlake at 1 month of age?)

[CKE]

Are you kidding me? Twins? I didn't even know there was a woman anywhere who could put up with you..:D Congratulations! (So they are speaking about Southlake at 1 month of age?)

LOL I know you should have seen the expression I made after they smiled for SLC

first:puke
then:cry
then realizing they could be the first kids in my family to win a state championship(and the Rios/Stones have been trying since 1970)if they went there it was this :D

[Buckspert]

Just wondering, is this the same draggonsdaddy that was a Plano quarterback back in the day? I figure that dd is on the Plano side.

[dragonsdaddy]

Just wondering, is this the same draggonsdaddy that was a Plano quarterback back in the day? I figure that dd is on the Plano side.

last time i checked, he was.

[DragonBand06]

LOL I know you should have seen the expression I made after they smiled for SLC

first:puke
then:cry
then realizing they could be the first kids in my family to win a state championship(and the Rios/Stones have been trying since 1970)if they went there it was this :DThey could also get a quality education there, you know...

[jdlewallen]

maybe---if they can reach that high....:D

:laugh:laugh:laugh

[WildcatFan]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!

[DrEdward]

I think Plano will be favored going into this game with Trinity, based upon what I saw yesterday at Texas Stadium. But simply being favored is not the same as winning it. So this could prove to be a pretty good state semi-final. By the way, if ping is still reading, what are you doing over here? I thought you didn't like this place? :D

[jdlewallen]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.
:laugh

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.
:rolleyes:
I predict plano by two scores!
:laugh
We are going to state I guarantee that!

Hmmm...you might want to ask Javorsky Lane and Anthony Smith how well that idea works out....:rolleyes:

[dragonsdaddy]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!

i'm thinking your guarantee may be of the limited type. et will be the best team plano has played, by a large margin. plano will also be the best et has played. that makes for some dang good football, where i come from.

[dragonsdaddy]

I think Plano will be favored going into this game with Trinity, based upon what I saw yesterday at Texas Stadium. But simply being favored is not the same as winning it. So this could prove to be a pretty good state semi-final. By the way, if ping is still reading, what are you doing over here? I thought you didn't like this place? :D

where is ping's normal haunt? he does seem to have a chip out of place, somewhat.

[WildcatFan]

Hmmm...you might want to ask Javorsky Lane and Anthony Miller how well that idea works out....:rolleyes:

I just had to get the trash going.... :)

Seriously this is going to be one tough game I think down to the wire. Trinity will not blow Plano out I can tell you that which should worry Trinity.

To beat Plano Trinity is going to need to get on top early and stay on top and play defense better than they have ever. If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Turnovers and stupid penalties are going to decide this one I think. Plano had many interceptions and stupid penalties if that happens next Sat then Trinity will win. Can't make any mistakes against them.

[dragonsdaddy]

I just had to get the trash going.... :)

Seriously this is going to be one tough game I think down to the wire. Trinity will not blow Plano out I can tell you that which should worry Trinity.

To beat Plano Trinity is going to need to get on top early and stay on top and play defense better than they have ever. If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Turnovers and stupid penalties are going to decide this one I think. Plano had many interceptions and stupid penalties if that happens next Sat then Trinity will win. Can't make any mistakes against them.

looking at your state title scores, i'd rather even the score with coju, tho i do believe it'll be ns in sa on 22dec.

[Butch Fifield]

oops

[jdlewallen]

I just had to get the trash going.... :)

Seriously this is going to be one tough game I think down to the wire. Trinity will not blow Plano out I can tell you that which should worry Trinity.

To beat Plano Trinity is going to need to get on top early and stay on top and play defense better than they have ever. If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Turnovers and stupid penalties are going to decide this one I think. Plano had many interceptions and stupid penalties if that happens next Sat then Trinity will win. Can't make any mistakes against them.

That strategy hasn't worked ALL year....how long is it going to take before people figure out that just because ET is big doesn't mean you can run them ragged...?

It will take more than just playing mistake-free football to beat Trinity. You will have to have your best day ever and hope for some breaks. They will hold onto the ball and grind out the clock. I would predict a low-scoring affair, similar to what we saw this week, with the same result.

[Butch Fifield]

Keep on defending the Plano turf buddy , you are doing a great job so far.

Plano doesn't need anybody defending anything. Getting into arguments on the internet about who is gonna win is stupid. we actually play the game on the field saturday. nothing anybody says here makes any difference.

do i think Plano will win? of course i do. i am a Plano fan. do Trinity fans think they will win? of course they do. they should and i respect their right to be wrong :)

[DrEdward]

Plano doesn't need anybody defending anything. Getting into arguments on the internet about who is gonna win is stupid. we actually play the game on the field saturday. nothing anybody says here makes any difference.

do i think Plano will win? of course i do. i am a Plano fan. do Trinity fans think they will win? of course they do. they should and i respect their right to be wrong :)

Does this post sound a bit familar to one about a minute ago? :D

[NHB06]

do i think Plano will win? of course i do. i am a Plano fan. do Trinity fans think they will win? of course they do. they should and i respect their right to be wrong :)

:laugh

[Buckspert]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.

[Butch Fifield]

Does this post sound a bit familar to one about a minute ago? :D

i think you are confused.

[dragonsdaddy]

i think you are confused.

what does the good dr's allegiance to the hated yankees have to do with your double posts?

[twcpfan1]

There's been an epidemic of stuttering lately amongst the board members.

Either that or there's been confusion about whether comments are actually being posted the first time they hit the submit button.

[dragonsdaddy]

There's been an epidemic of stuttering lately amongst the board members.

Either that or there's been confusion about whether comments are actually being posted the first time they hit the submit button.

yeah, it happens almost with every submission lately.

[DrEdward]

what does the good dr's allegiance to the hated yankees have to do with your double posts?

I do have some residual feelings from the late War of Northern Aggression when certain members of the yankee army burned down and destroyed the family farm. But I didn't know we had ever discussed those. :D I was just giving him a hard time about the double post a minute apart. It probably is the delay many of us are encountering.

[Vols4Ever]

Plano will be LUCKY to score 10 pts on Trinity.

[jdlewallen]

Plano will be LUCKY to score 10 pts on Trinity.

Hey! Good to see ya!!

(scooting over to make room for one more at the "Couldn't Believe it 'Til I Saw the Trojans" table...):p

[PaulinPlano]

i'll have to go with your opinion on the other boards. as far as the basketball reference, i am unable to prove or disprove it, but considering i'm a plano fan, too, i'm at a loss to come up with a situation where i would belittle other plano fans. at least wildcat fans. now pesh is another matter.

Don't go there...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Glad to be back on this evening. What great effort by the Cats yesterday.

Yes Plano finally has someone to play that's what alot of people said about Rockwall then they said we couldn't beat mesquite 2 twice in the same year, then we couldn't stop mighty westfield and their big bruising running game and that their athletes would have their way against plano. Then this Saturday we can't score against that great Skyline Defense and their offense has all these athletes and we are to slow to contain them.

Now its the same ole, same ole. Which is great in my opinion no pressure for Plano. Trinity is rolling they beat a great Bowie and OP team in back to back weeks. They have the haka and big athletic oline great defense that will knock you into next week.

I just hope plano gets off the bus to when it pulls up to Texas Stadium.


Who's up for beers and burgers at Humperdinks around 4pm?

[PaulinPlano]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.

Very good observation.

Plano would have crushed Skyline with out the 3 turnovers. I think Plano has great balance on offense and will keep Trinity guessing. With all the speed Skyline has, they could not stop Plano.

Plano was able to keep the Westfield running game in check, and though I believe Trinity has a better running attack, Plano should be able to force some punts.

Bottom line, Trinty will have to keep the ball away from the Plano offense, by pounding the ball and keeping Plano honest with the pass. They will have to pass much more than they have.

If Plano can take care of the ball, they will move the ball down the field on Trinity. If the turnovers are even, I like Plano in this game because IMHO the Plano offense will move the ball on Trinity better than Trinity will move it on the Plano defense.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Very good observation.

Plano would have crushed Skyline with out the 3 turnovers. I think Plano has great balance on offense and will keep Trinity guessing. With all the speed Skyline has, they could not stop Plano.

Plano was able to keep the Westfield running game in check, and though I believe Trinity has a better running attack, Plano should be able to force some punts.

Bottom line, Trinty will have to keep the ball away from the Plano offense, by pounding the ball and keeping Plano honest with the pass. They will have to pass much more than they have.

If Plano can take care of the ball, they will move the ball down the field on Trinity. If the turnovers are even, I like Plano in this game because IMHO the Plano offense will move the ball on Trinity better than Trinity will move it on the Plano defense.

Your right this time of year it comes down to fewest mistakes. Plano must take care of the ball against Trinity. Meger can't throw 3 pics against Trinity because they will take advantage of them. If Plano wins the turnover battle they will win the ball game.

[jbusch]

Glad to be back on this evening. What great effort by the Cats yesterday.

Yes Plano finally has someone to play that's what alot of people said about Rockwall then they said we couldn't beat mesquite 2 twice in the same year, then we couldn't stop mighty westfield and their big bruising running game and that their athletes would have their way against plano. Then this Saturday we can't score against that great Skyline Defense and their offense has all these athletes and we are to slow to contain them.

Now its the same ole, same ole. Which is great in my opinion no pressure for Plano. Trinity is rolling they beat a great Bowie and OP team in back to back weeks. They have the haka and big athletic oline great defense that will knock you into next week.

I just hope plano gets off the bus to when it pulls up to Texas Stadium.


Who's up for beers and burgers at Humperdinks around 4pm?

did you mean for this to be taken as english, spanish or Norwegian

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

did you mean for this to be taken as english, spanish or Norwegian

NO it's a combination of all three I call it spanwegianish.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Good shot of Plano on the main page.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Good shot of Plano on the main page.

Check out the duplicate next Saturday it will be even better.

[stinger]

I love it when people think Plano is a pushover. Trinity, meet Rex Burkehead & company. They will pop you sqaure in the mouth...;)

Is that after they get up?:D

[Tantal]

Seriously this is going to be one tough game I think down to the wire.

I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Turnovers and stupid penalties are going to decide this one I think.

#1- Yes and Quite possible.
#2- Just because they're big doesn't mean that they're not in shape. If they can hang with Bowie's speed for 4 quarters, they can hang with anybody's.
#3- This is the same thing I said about the Trinity/Permian games. 1st game, Trinity coughs it up 5 times and gets penalized alot, loses 30-3. Second game, no turnovers, few penalties, wins 48-14. If Trinity doesn't put the ball on the carpet and have their drives stall due to penalties, they're tough to beat.

[stinger]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.

Where's the punchline? Best humorous post so far. Where has Plano face a bigger, athletic defense that can knock you out of your shoes? You might have one pretty good running back, but Trinity has a stable of them. Have you noticed that they platoon on offense and defense? Did you notice that a 270 pound fullback/defensive end chased down the player and caused the fumble that ended Bowie's hopes? Have you noticed the quarterback has about a 60% completion rate? Did you notice the longest play from scrimmage by the speedsters from Bowie was 24 yards? THE LIST GOES ON...

[Trinity75]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!

Have you read the latest Massey ratings?
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX

[Trinity75]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.

I now direct your attention to http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX
This pretty much sums up the story.

[Dynastybegan86]

Just posting on thread topic only.....So does Katy!:ninja:

[chickenheart1]

I now direct your attention to http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX
This pretty much sums up the story.

With a 14 point deviation, nothing here scares me.

[dragonsdaddy]

Very good observation.

Plano would have crushed Skyline with out the 3 turnovers. I think Plano has great balance on offense and will keep Trinity guessing. With all the speed Skyline has, they could not stop Plano.

Plano was able to keep the Westfield running game in check, and though I believe Trinity has a better running attack, Plano should be able to force some punts.

Bottom line, Trinty will have to keep the ball away from the Plano offense, by pounding the ball and keeping Plano honest with the pass. They will have to pass much more than they have.

If Plano can take care of the ball, they will move the ball down the field on Trinity. If the turnovers are even, I like Plano in this game because IMHO the Plano offense will move the ball on Trinity better than Trinity will move it on the Plano defense.

were they turn-overs, or take aways? it sounded like the skyline d made some great plays on a couple of them. just giving credit where due.

[maxtor]

"I don't remember me having even mentioned Plano in the last year."

Typical bad grammar by the Maxie Man, but also one of the most outright lies that I have ever read (even for a message board). You live to talk negatively about Plano. Just be honest with yourself

Why not you go watch basketball, and let Trinity do their own smack talk.

Bad grammar is the nature of board posting. Nonetheless, you have succeeded in discrediting my opinion due to my grammatical deficiencies. :rolleyes:

You think that I'm lying when I say that I don't remember hardly mentioning Plano in the last year? Yep, you're right I do in fact live for posting anti-Plano B.S. You got me again.:notworthy:rolleyes:

[maxtor]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!

WATCH OUT WILDCAT!!! Ping, being the grammatical police will be jumping on you any second for such infractions.

[trojanbacker]

"If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter."

Nice concept but doesn't work in actuality against Trinity. During the playoffs, Bowie had outscored teams 78 - 7 in the second half. Saturday night they got 7 in the second half. In fact, they had a total of 8 yards of offense after their first drive of the second half. Trinity does not wear down; they wear others down. It's called depth and they are blessed with lots of it this year.

No disrespect to Plano, but the "we'll tire out them big 'ole boys" philosophy is one that we hear every week from every team and have yet to see it even begin to work.

[mojo61]

"If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter."

Nice concept but doesn't work in actuality against Trinity.
No disrespect to Plano, but the "we'll tire out them big 'ole boys" philosophy is one that we hear every week from every team and have yet to see it even begin to work.

It worked pretty well Sep. 15th.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Where's the punchline? Best humorous post so far. Where has Plano face a bigger, athletic defense that can knock you out of your shoes? You might have one pretty good running back, but Trinity has a stable of them. Have you noticed that they platoon on offense and defense? Did you notice that a 270 pound fullback/defensive end chased down the player and caused the fumble that ended Bowie's hopes? Have you noticed the quarterback has about a 60% completion rate? Did you notice the longest play from scrimmage by the speedsters from Bowie was 24 yards? THE LIST GOES ON...

Yeah, your right we have only 1 good player in burkhead.

However,
Did you know that Plano's QB has a 70% completion rate, he has thrown for 3160 yards and that Plano has 4 receivers with at least 40 catches and 2 with over 1000 yards of receptions.

Our defense gives up 13 points a game.

I'm glad were playing Trinity instead of Bowie. We play better against teams that run 85% of the time.

[stinger]

It worked pretty well Sep. 15th.

There ya go...the ONE Mojo poster living in the past....tink about the last meeting...hmmmm
You are the only sour grapes so far from Permian...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

"If not I am afraid Plano is going to tire them out and win big in the 3rd and 4th quarter."

Nice concept but doesn't work in actuality against Trinity. During the playoffs, Bowie had outscored teams 78 - 7 in the second half. Saturday night they got 7 in the second half. In fact, they had a total of 8 yards of offense after their first drive of the second half. Trinity does not wear down; they wear others down. It's called depth and they are blessed with lots of it this year.

No disrespect to Plano, but the "we'll tire out them big 'ole boys" philosophy is one that we hear every week from every team and have yet to see it even begin to work.


Your right we won't out tire you we'll just out play yeah. Hows that? :)

Your right no one is going to get out tired. Its going to in the 40's Saturday night and lots of energy will be in the building. If Plano can move the ball consistently and keep its defense rested it will be a great game.

If Trinity can't run against our 6-1 200 defense. Then they will lose. Our entire starting defense is 6-1 200 except for a 2 corners. I remember that was our defense in 93 and it worked pretty well against Trinity then which ran a similar offense.

[trojanbacker]

If it worked in '93, then I'm sure it will work just the same in 2007. Game over. My bad.

[TrojanHorse03]

It worked pretty well Sep. 15th.
Yeah I hope we don't have to play that team....:D

[Maxthedog]

I'm thinking that there was a reference(last week) to Plano not playing a defense as good as Skyline possesed. Trinity has a greate defense no doubt. Skyline has a very good defense as well and Plano didn't seem to have much trouble moving the ball. Plano will move the ball on anyone, including Trinity. Can the Trinity move the ball on Plano's D. Yep. Gonna be a great game. I also expect a 45-50K size crowd. Wish I could be there!!!!!

[Pingdude]

Bad grammar is the nature of board posting. Nonetheless, you have succeeded in discrediting my opinion due to my grammatical deficiencies. :rolleyes:

You think that I'm lying when I say that I don't remember hardly mentioning Plano in the last year? Yep, you're right I do in fact live for posting anti-Plano B.S. You got me again.:notworthy:rolleyes:

As I said before you are right and I stand corrected, I must have you confused with someone else.

As for this thread specifically,I never have been a big fan of dissing kids that are still playing this time of year. Unlike the other poster who thought I was getting hot about the game. That's not it at all, who knows about that, we will see on Saturday. This thread is an attempt at a slam not only to what Plano has done this year, but also all of their worthy opponents to this point.

[stinger]

Your right we won't out tire you we'll just out play yeah. Hows that? :)

Your right no one is going to get out tired. Its going to in the 40's Saturday night and lots of energy will be in the building. If Plano can move the ball consistently and keep its defense rested it will be a great game.

If Trinity can't run against our 6-1 200 defense. Then they will lose. Our entire starting defense is 6-1 200 except for a 2 corners. I remember that was our defense in 93 and it worked pretty well against Trinity then which ran a similar offense.

Attaboy!!! Let's talk 14 years ago. It will be a great game...but Trinity has arrived for each game.....and left the winner...

[TrojanHorse03]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!
Bowie's nobody? 2 tds?....Well we do have are work cut out for us, we've never played a team like Plano

[paradox169]

why is there all this talk about how trinity is just amazing and nobody can stop them? Plano and Trinity are both very good temas, and will collide head to head at every play. You can't say that Plano will get blown out or Trinity, both teams have very good programs and both are fighting to go onto state.
im perdicting a very close game,
plano-28
Trinity-24

[gritty52]

It worked pretty well Sep. 15th.

How about on December 1??????????????

[TrojanHorse03]

why is there all this talk about how trinity is just amazing and nobody can stop them? Plano and Trinity are both very good temas, and will collide head to head at every play. You can't say that Plano will get blown out or Trinity, both teams have very good programs and both are fighting to go onto state.
im perdicting a very close game,
plano-28
Trinity-24
Umm, actually the talk has been the other way around....

[Jive Turkey]

I also expect a 45-50K size crowd.
If there are 35k there, that would be a great crowd. With 3 high schools in Plano, it ain't like the old days when everybody in town went to the big games.

I was only 5 years old in 1977, but I was at Texas Stadium for the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semi-finals, and Port Neches Grove state championship game. The whole city was there. It's not like that anymore.

But I expect a big crowd.

[Vols4Ever]

WildcatFan,

Your clear insult to Bowie is well noted.

Too bad we did not get a chance, like Trinity is, to kick the Wildcats butts.

I hope Trinity hangs 60 on Plano.

[drgnbkr]

If there are 35k there, that would be a great crowd. With 3 high schools in Plano, it ain't like the old days when everybody in town went to the big games.

I was only 5 years old in 1977, but I was at Texas Stadium for the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semi-finals, and Port Neches Grove state championship game. The whole city was there. It's not like that anymore.

But I expect a big crowd.

I think there were 30K+ there for Carroll / Plano in 05.

[Jive Turkey]

^^^

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. If SLC/Plano only got 30k, not sure Trinity/Plano will.

But with Trinity/Plano being the 7 p.m. game, maybe a lot of people from the earlier games stick around. Who knows.

Either way, should be a great time out there (weather permitting).

[trojanbacker]

30,000 maybe. Depends on the weather and if everyone has done their Christmas shopping.

[The Warrior]

Plano fans are not the first to claim the weak district will stop ET from doing anything in the playoffs, just the latest. They will run and recently will pass, if needed. It should be a close game and could be decided with seconds left in the game. ET kicker has a big leg. Don't know about Plano's kicker.

Good luck to both teams!:notworthy

Maybe SGP can get in on the fun next year!:mad:

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I'm thinking that there was a reference(last week) to Plano not playing a defense as good as Skyline possesed. Trinity has a greate defense no doubt. Skyline has a very good defense as well and Plano didn't seem to have much trouble moving the ball. Plano will move the ball on anyone, including Trinity. Can the Trinity move the ball on Plano's D. Yep. Gonna be a great game. I also expect a 45-50K size crowd. Wish I could be there!!!!!

45K not even close. Plano bought 8500 fans to Mesquite. Lets say they bring another 5K. I say 25K max.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano fans are not the first to claim the weak district will stop ET from doing anything in the playoffs, just the latest. They will run and recently will pass, if needed. It should be a close game and could be decided with seconds left in the game. ET kicker has a big leg. Don't know about Plano's kicker.

Good luck to both teams!:notworthy

Maybe SGP can get in on the fun next year!:mad:


I saw the stats where you kicker as like 17 FG's. Obviously in a tight game that is huge to have such a strong and reliable kicker. Plano's FG team has had it's issues. We have only kicked 4 FG's all year although we got a big 3 points against WestField 2 weeks ago. Anything over 35 yards is taking a big chance for a Plano FG.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Attaboy!!! Let's talk 14 years ago. It will be a great game...but Trinity has arrived for each game.....and left the winner...

Why not. It's a very similar circumstances. Plus many of Plano's coaching staff is still around from that 93 game.

[planoball34]

As I said before you are right and I stand corrected, I must have you confused with someone else.

As for this thread specifically,I never have been a big fan of dissing kids that are still playing this time of year. Unlike the other poster who thought I was getting hot about the game. That's not it at all, who knows about that, we will see on Saturday. This thread is an attempt at a slam not only to what Plano has done this year, but also all of their worthy opponents to this point.

Ping, couldn't agree with you more. Saw your post on the site that stays up all the time.
Max and the former QB guy who is now a dragon guy obviously have a thing fior dissing Plano. If the QB was REALLY a Plano grad he would not stand up for Max's spiteful jabs.

As I said about Skyline they are in for an awakening this weekend. Skyline boasted of superior D and a QB that was a stud like no other and they ended up embarassing themselves in their pants. All due respect to Trinity as they have a class program and will come to play so this one should be down to the wire IMO with Plano having the edge on overall teamwork for a W. Should be a battle royale for sure. Only bad thing is having to see that darn dance I am tired of seeing so hopefuly it will be the last time this year!!

[Trinity75]

Yeah, your right we have only 1 good player in burkhead.

However,
Did you know that Plano's QB has a 70% completion rate, he has thrown for 3160 yards and that Plano has 4 receivers with at least 40 catches and 2 with over 1000 yards of receptions.

Our defense gives up 13 points a game.

I'm glad were playing Trinity instead of Bowie. We play better against teams that run 85% of the time.

Are those real passes or just the short little latterals in the backfield? I have not seen many teams in the spread (other than SLC) that throw up field much. Most of their passes are short little passes in the backfield and then the receiver does the rest. Most teams try throwing up field a few times and aren't very accurate. They end up sticking to the high percentage completions in the backfield or short little screens. Can you tell us how many passes he has actually thrown (in the air) more than 29 yds?

[TrojanHorse03]

Ping, couldn't agree with you more. Saw your post on the site that stays up all the time.
Max and the former QB guy who is now a dragon guy obviously have a thing fior dissing Plano. If the QB was REALLY a Plano grad he would not stand up for Max's spiteful jabs.

As I said about Skyline they are in for an awakening this weekend. Skyline boasted of superior D and a QB that was a stud like no other and they ended up embarassing themselves in their pants. All due respect to Trinity as they have a class program and will come to play so this one should be down to the wire IMO with Plano having the edge on overall teamwork for a W. Should be a battle royale for sure. Only bad thing is having to see that darn dance I am tired of seeing so hopefuly it will be the last time this year!!
Skyline, huh....As for the HAKA it's not meant for the other team's fans, 37 and 3 since it's inception the HAKA is here to stay at Trinity.

[dragonsdaddy]

Why not. It's a very similar circumstances. Plus many of Plano's coaching staff is still around from that 93 game.

really?? besides brence and jay don, who else?

[dragonsdaddy]

Ping, couldn't agree with you more. Saw your post on the site that stays up all the time.
Max and the former QB guy who is now a dragon guy obviously have a thing fior dissing Plano. If the QB was REALLY a Plano grad he would not stand up for Max's spiteful jabs.

As I said about Skyline they are in for an awakening this weekend. Skyline boasted of superior D and a QB that was a stud like no other and they ended up embarassing themselves in their pants. All due respect to Trinity as they have a class program and will come to play so this one should be down to the wire IMO with Plano having the edge on overall teamwork for a W. Should be a battle royale for sure. Only bad thing is having to see that darn dance I am tired of seeing so hopefuly it will be the last time this year!!

i guess you'd know better than anyone. my memory must be failing me. the spiteful jab has been rightfully skewered, imo. if you can find one diss of mine in any thread, you can have my letter jacket, what the moths haven't borne off.

[Planofan2007]

Are those real passes or just the short little latterals in the backfield? I have not seen many teams in the spread (other than SLC) that throw up field much. Most of their passes are short little passes in the backfield and then the receiver does the rest. Most teams try throwing up field a few times and aren't very accurate. They end up sticking to the high percentage completions in the backfield or short little screens. Can you tell us how many passes he has actually thrown (in the air) more than 29 yds?

I am not sure how many are over 29 yards (where did you get 29 yards from just wondering?) but a majority of them are the 10 -15 yard rage in the air.

[Trinity75]

I am not sure how many are over 29 yards (where did you get 29 yards from just wondering?) but a majority of them are the 10 -15 yard rage in the air.

I'm sorry I meant 20 yds. So you are saying that the majority of the passes are not long passes. Is there a reason for not throwing down field?
So how is the QB's accuracy down field? I have not seen a Plano game. What is your percenatge of running vs. throwing? You guys run the spread correct?

[Butch Fifield]

There are 3 QBs in the DFW area who have averaged over 10 yards per pass attempt.

Carson Meger Plano 10.4
Riley Dodge Southlake Caroll 10.4
Matt Brown Allen 10.0

(for reference, Tom Brady and Tony Romo lead the NFL at 8.6 yards per attempt)

[Butch Fifield]

Plano's receivers:

Kris Lott: 66 catches for 1080 yards 16.9 avg
Grant Davis: 51 catches for 961 yards 18.8 avg

[oh_mojo91]

I love it when people think Plano is a pushover. Trinity, meet Rex Burkehead & company. They will pop you sqaure in the mouth...;)

Plano meet HAKA
And I would try to pop them in the mouth. They're big.

[da wiz]

please try to pop them in the mouth..

trinity thrives in physical games,,,



also the trojans have a motto... IF IT AINT RUFF, IT AINT RIGHT ........

[Planofan2007]

I'm sorry I meant 20 yds. So you are saying that the majority of the passes are not long passes. Is there a reason for not throwing down field?
So how is the QB's accuracy down field? I have not seen a Plano game. What is your percenatge of running vs. throwing? You guys run the spread correct?

We go deep but you asked about the majority of our passes. I think the only team in the world that goes deep everyplay would be the N.E. Patriots. If you haven't seen Plano play this year everyone knows about #20 as you should but, watch out for #24 and #4. And if you double team them #3 will beat you. And on the other side of the ball watch when someone goes over the middle either #35 or #10 will give them a good shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBeetehKKc

Copy this link and will see why#20 is the real deal. That poor kid from Skyline feel for that move twice on sat.

[trojanbacker]

Why is it that every team believes that they have a lock on hard hitting? At this level, they all hit hard. It's such a generic claim.

[Planofan2007]

I'm sorry I meant 20 yds. So you are saying that the majority of the passes are not long passes. Is there a reason for not throwing down field?
So how is the QB's accuracy down field? I have not seen a Plano game. What is your percenatge of running vs. throwing? You guys run the spread correct?

We go deep but you asked about the majority of our passes. I think the only team in the world that goes deep everyplay would be the N.E. Patriots. If you haven't seen Plano play this year everyone knows about #20 as you should but, watch out for #24 and #4. And if you double team them #3 will beat you. And on the other side of the ball watch when someone goes over the middle either #35 or #10 will give them a good shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBeetehKKc

That poor kid from Skyline feel for that move twice on sat.

I am not posting this to start any crap. Just telling you somethings to watch for since you haven't seen Plano play all year and these are players that not everyone talks about. What are some guys on Trinity that are solid players but don't get the press?

[oh_mojo91]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.


Odessa Permian,

And look what they done to them. They will take away your passing game and make you run. and trust me it's not as easy as it look, try running into that big # 88 (monster size) Shoot you have to run 3 yards just to get around him. Once that happens you have 3 linebackers waiting to take your head off. So you better hope that your passing game does work. Because your running game will be void.

Good Luck, Your going to need it and a lot more.
ET wins, By how much. It will be up to them.

[trojanbacker]

"what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix."

I would nominate Permian and Bowie for that list. Only with Bowie, they brought a lot more speed to the table than Plano has.

[Trinity75]

We go deep but you asked about the majority of our passes. I think the only team in the world that goes deep everyplay would be the N.E. Patriots. If you haven't seen Plano play this year everyone knows about #20 as you should but, watch out for #24 and #4. And if you double team them #3 will beat you. And on the other side of the ball watch when someone goes over the middle either #35 or #10 will give them a good shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBeetehKKc

Copy this link and will see why#20 is the real deal. That poor kid from Skyline feel for that move twice on sat.

So you have 6 players that are playmakers? Or is #20 your big play guy? How about your defense? Are they rated at all?

[dragonsdaddy]

"what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix."

I would nominate Permian and Bowie for that list. Only with Bowie, they brought a lot more speed to the table than Plano has.

are you sure? upon what do you base this baseless---oops---- claim?

[Trinity75]

I am not posting this to start any crap. Just telling you somethings to watch for since you haven't seen Plano play all year and these are players that not everyone talks about. What are some guys on Trinity that are solid players but don't get the press?[/QUOTE]

They play as a team. It really doesn't matter if any of them get any press. They come together as a team, play as a team and leave as a team. I think it is understood the unity it takes to make things happen. I'm not saying that is the case for your guys. Just letting you know how it is at Trinity. As you know the HAKA is something that is done to bring unity to the team and the community. I think I am going to go to the school board and request a sign be put out front under the Trinity High School sign that says "HEB ISD Home of the HAKA High school"

[trojanbacker]

Eyewitness accounts only, just like anyone who comes on and says otherwise. Actually, I plan on stopping by both the Bowie and Plano schools this week and asking them to run some sprints for me, which I will time and report back here. I doubt that you will find many people out there who have seen both teams play and would not give the edge to Bowie, speed-wise.

[stinger]

Everybody says "watch out for this guy, watch out for that guy" I say "WATCH OUT FOR TRINITY!"

[Planofan2007]

I am not posting this to start any crap. Just telling you somethings to watch for since you haven't seen Plano play all year and these are players that not everyone talks about. What are some guys on Trinity that are solid players but don't get the press?

They play as a team. It really doesn't matter if any of them get any press. They come together as a team, play as a team and leave as a team. I think it is understood the unity it takes to make things happen. I'm not saying that is the case for your guys. Just letting you know how it is at Trinity. As you know the HAKA is something that is done to bring unity to the team and the community. I think I am going to go to the school board and request a sign be put out front under the Trinity High School sign that says "HEB ISD Home of the HAKA High school"[/QUOTE]

I was simply asnwering your question. Sorry, I know when I go watch a football game just like to know a little bit about the other team and some of their players. Was just letting you know about some of our playmakers on offense thats all and was hopping you would tell us that haven't seen Trinity this year about yours.

And the unity thing... come on this is High School football all teams are united. These kids usually all play together from when they are in 3rd grade.

[jdlewallen]

Ping, couldn't agree with you more. Saw your post on the site that stays up all the time.
Max and the former QB guy who is now a dragon guy obviously have a thing fior dissing Plano. If the QB was REALLY a Plano grad he would not stand up for Max's spiteful jabs.

As I said about Skyline they are in for an awakening this weekend. Skyline boasted of superior D and a QB that was a stud like no other and they ended up embarassing themselves in their pants. All due respect to Trinity as they have a class program and will come to play so this one should be down to the wire IMO with Plano having the edge on overall teamwork for a W. Should be a battle royale for sure. Only bad thing is having to see that darn dance I am tired of seeing so hopefuly it will be the last time this year!!

YOU won't have to see it after this weekend....unless you watch the final game on TV....:D

:p

[Permian_Fan]

I have listened to the webcast or watched the prep-cast-live coverage of all the ET and PLANO games.

Even prior to Permian getting dominated by ET in the playoffs, I told most people I knew that I didn't see how Permian could beat this team based on what I have been witnessing in their recent games. I even posted on this forum that I thought Permian would be an underdog. Obviously that was good judgment.

Anyway, I have been impressed with every game that ET has played in the playoffs. Plano on the other hand just seems like a confident team that gets the job done. Barely "scraping by" against Rockwall. But honestly, I don't see any standout areas of play that are a real threat from Plano. The ET defense is very much for REAL. This wil be real ROCK WALL this time :)

DEFENSIVELY, ET HAS DOMINATED EVERY OPPONENT :notworthy

In my opinion ET wins this game by 2-3 touchdowns.

Plus, I want to ET and Abilene win state. That way BOTH champions will have been beaten by MOJO in the same year :D No it doesn't mean a damn thing...but it will be a nice bit of trivia if it happens.

[Maxthedog]

SLC/Plano was closer to 40K than 30K.
There will be a large number of fans that are not associated with either school, that will attend this game.
AND as you know, each week a give team gets closer to the State game, the 'fair' weather fans start showing up. Ya know, the one's that haven't been to a game since they graduated(20 years ago). :)

Then there's always the Plano East fans that want to see Plano lose. Must be hundreds of thousands of them :)

[WILDCAT27]

Coming from a former Wildcat player, all of you cocky Plano fans are in for a surprise Sat. if you think that Plano can beat Trinity w/o playing their best game of the season. Trinity is BIG, athletic, and VERY well coached.

And for the Trinity Fans that think Plano has "only 1 good player"... yall are in for a surprise as well. Meger is a talented QB who can throw the ball, he is just new to 5a as this is just his first season to play FB at all in over 2 years bc he had 2 ACL surgeries in 6 months before his sophmore year.
LOTT, DAVIS, and CHRISTIAN are all VERY gifted receivers that are fast, over 6-2 and very rarely drop the ball.
What can you say about BURKHEAD?not quite superman, but maybe Clark Kent. Pervis and Daniels are good RBs too, they just back up a hoss.
Defense is also solid with brence, kershaw, mendenhall, and kelly.

Should be a great game if both teams keep turnovers to a minimum.
I say 28-21 as the final score. Who knows whos gonna win. Cant wait, I just finished finals so ill be back in Dallas for this one.

[WILDCAT27]

And the title of "Plano finally has to play somebody"....

I guess a 10-0 ALLEN team who choked in the playoffs, ROCKWALL, SPRING WESTFEILD, and SKYLINE were nobody's. These teams could compete with MOJO and BOWIE any day. All of the teams above are great programs, and nothing should be taken away from them.
Hope yall are having successful basketball seasons :D

[trojanbacker]

Lots of good natured ribbing in here but I don't anyone expects this game to be anything but a war. You don't get to this point in the playoffs and not be an outstanding team.

[Butch Fifield]

AND as you know, each week a give team gets closer to the State game, the 'fair' weather fans start showing up. Ya know, the one's that haven't been to a game since they graduated(20 years ago). :)


you got that right. i live in San Antonio and I will be coming up for this one. i made the game 2 weeks ago in Round Rock, but that is it.

fortunately i think the next one we play is about 10 minutes from my house at the alamodome.

[jbusch]

There are 3 QBs in the DFW area who have averaged over 10 yards per pass attempt.

Carson Meger Plano 10.4
Riley Dodge Southlake Caroll 10.4
Matt Brown Allen 10.0

(for reference, Tom Brady and Tony Romo lead the NFL at 8.6 yards per attempt)

would be nice to know brady & Romos HS YPA #'s

[DragonBand06]

There are 3 QBs in the DFW area who have averaged over 10 yards per pass attempt.

Carson Meger Plano 10.4
Riley Dodge Southlake Caroll 10.4
Matt Brown Allen 10.0

(for reference, Tom Brady and Tony Romo lead the NFL at 8.6 yards per attempt)

LOL I think Romo and Brady have a little bit better Defenses they're playing against. ;)

[Butch Fifield]

would be nice to know brady & Romos HS YPA #'s

obviously i was not comparing any of these HS QBs to Brady and Romo, rather using them as a comparison with the type of downfield passing that these high school offenses are running. i think YPA is about the only stat you can use to figure out whether a team throws downfield.

[bigdaddydog]

And the title of "Plano finally has to play somebody"....

I guess a 10-0 ALLEN team who choked in the playoffs, ROCKWALL, SPRING WESTFEILD, and SKYLINE were nobody's. These teams could compete with MOJO and BOWIE any day. All of the teams above are great programs, and nothing should be taken away from them.
Hope yall are having successful basketball seasons :D

That was a very nice compliment even if you did leave it on note paper held to our backs with a big knife!! :D

Next year my friend, we will pwn you like we did this year...

So is this game really THE game for the "State Title" like everyone said the Southlake vs Trinity game was last year?

P.S. Don't miss this game because it's all down hill from here!!! :eek::cool:


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[trojanbacker]

lol@game for the state title. How many times has that been said at various stages of the playoffs so far this year? Each week, someone says it. It's all in good fun. But, just for the record.....that game would be Dec. 22.

[bigdaddydog]

lol@game for the state title. How many times has that been said at various stages of the playoffs so far this year? Each week, someone says it. It's all in good fun. But, just for the record.....that game would be Dec. 22.

Aww man, everyone know Region III & IV can't bring the wood... :D


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[tiger94]

It worked pretty well Sep. 15th.

how is basketball season treating odessa permian right now? Sorry haven't seen a basketball game this year yet because I am still watching euless play. You have to win games when they count and not when nothing is on the line. Pressure! keep on practicing free throws maybe op will be better in basketball than football.

[tiger94]

Your right we won't out tire you we'll just out play yeah. Hows that? :)

Your right no one is going to get out tired. Its going to in the 40's Saturday night and lots of energy will be in the building. If Plano can move the ball consistently and keep its defense rested it will be a great game.

If Trinity can't run against our 6-1 200 defense. Then they will lose. Our entire starting defense is 6-1 200 except for a 2 corners. I remember that was our defense in 93 and it worked pretty well against Trinity then which ran a similar offense.

I remember when we played plano in 1975 they ran the option and we stopped them so I know now we can stop the rb because they ran the ball in 1975. get real guy 1993 was 14 years ago maybe a little changes took place. Trinity won a championship in 05 running the ball to. when was the last time plano won a championship. please let me know the last season plano didn't make the playoffs. lets keep the chat about the teams under the current coaches. I remember when coach wood was in brownwood to????

[maxtor]

And the title of "Plano finally has to play somebody"....

I guess a 10-0 ALLEN team who choked in the playoffs, ROCKWALL, SPRING WESTFEILD, and SKYLINE were nobody's. These teams could compete with MOJO and BOWIE any day. All of the teams above are great programs, and nothing should be taken away from them.
Hope yall are having successful basketball seasons :D

Allen? Plano lost to Allen,who then lost in the first round because they were over rated. Just like I said in countless posts prior to them losing.

Rockwall? Do you mean the 6-5 Rockwall that Plano beat by 7?

Westfield? Pretty good but not in the same league as Trinity/Katy.

SKYLINE? DISD. End of story.

Sure, these are some pretty decent teams and Plano is having a good run. Bless their hearts. Come saturday ole Maxtor will be sitting in his easy chair gazing into the fireplace and sipping on some fine brandy and thinking. "They just didnt know, Id tried to tell them but they were just giddy about winning again that they lost site of reality".

Reality shows up saturday.:cool:

[Trojanman96]

Yawwwnnn sorry guys I just woke up time to join in the fun.

First Trinity yeah seen them not real fast in my opinion compared to Plano, I think we will be fine.

They are not a juggernaut if they were they would have beat Bowie by more than they did. They have not played anyone either Permian was overrated in a dust bowl distrcit. I think the string name applies to Trinity they finally have to play somebody.

I predict plano by two scores!

We are going to state I guarantee that!

Since you wern't at the game...Trinity knelt at the 1 yard line with the ball. They could've scored again. Doubling up any team is a good win.

[Trojanman96]

Plano is one of the better passing teams that I have seen in a while. SLC teams the last few years would be a little better but not much. Throw Burkhead in the mix and the other team has some real problems. Ask Skyline, they had no clue how to stop Plano. If not for some penalties and mistakes it would have easily been 60+.

For the experts, what team has ET faced that has a VERY GOOD passing game to go along with a great running game headed by a difference maker at runningback? Add a very good defense to the mix.

You talk about SKyline having no answer. Who did they play this year?

[Buckspert]

Talking about good coaching. Seems to me that someone went for it on 4th and 6 last year and blew a shot at state. Brence won't blow it at crunch time. Brence has one state title has a head coach and was an assistant for others. Coaching goes in favor or Plano although a slight edge.
Euless may have a large D-line but no one is talking about the Plano O-line. They man handled Skyline and they were huge on defense, 4 D-1 recruits on that side of the ball and they had no clue how to stop them. If not for a couple of turnovers it would have easily been 60.
Will be a great game and I look for Plano to take it.

[maxtor]

You talk about SKyline having no answer. Who did they play this year?

BY GOLLY SKYLINE PLAYED BOWIE!!!! oops..... they lost to Bowie.;)

Skyline did nothing but play DISD teams and a few loser suburban teams. The only winning suburban teams that Skyline played was Bowie, Plano and 8-5 Round Rock. Skyline lost to Bowie and Plano and beat RR by 3.:rolleyes:

Skyline was a great big city team. They were above average for a suburban team.

[bigdaddydog]

Since you wern't at the game...Trinity knelt at the 1 yard line with the ball. They could've scored again. Doubling up any team is a good win.

Alright fine, then make that Region I, III, & IV can't bring the wood!! :D

Plano took a knee also when their backups could have scored again to get into the upper 40's. Point is both teams have class.

Which team is gonna have the gas? The key for Trinity to win is to get pressure on the Plano QB to take away their passing game.


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[Boss Hawgette]

can't wait 'til Saturday!

[powerofthehaka]

Since you wern't at the game...Trinity knelt at the 1 yard line with the ball. They could've scored again. Doubling up any team is a good win.

This was a Bowie team that averaged 40 points per game.:eek:

[Permian_Fan]

how is basketball season treating odessa permian right now? Sorry haven't seen a basketball game this year yet because I am still watching euless play. You have to win games when they count and not when nothing is on the line. Pressure! keep on practicing free throws maybe op will be better in basketball than football.

Ok, I'll be honest. I want ET to win for one reason only...to prevent PLANO from getting an 8th state title...and the additonal "W's" in the win column. At this point it is about school records, etc for me. But I certainly hope for an epic game.

But, with comments like the one above, It makes me want the "old tradition" team like PLANO to win. Teams like ET which have experienced most of their success in past decade seem to be very cocky.

As far as winning games when it counts...that is an ignorant excuse! So, a nationally televised game doesn't count? If your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS. No perinnial powerhouse wants an "L" next to a game whether is pre-season or post-season.

I can face the fact Permian got beat by a better team in the playoffs. I just wish the ET folks could man-up and state they got beat by a better team in the pre-season. Mistake free football is part of being a "better team" in the pre-season Permian was much better prepared that ET..and the results showed that.

In the 5 game MOJO vs TROJAN history, ET is up by 1 game. In the game series, Permian has outscored ET 99-89. I think permian knows how to play football just fine. ET got the best of Permian this year without question. Victories appear to go back and forth reguarly in this match up.

I guess Ideally, ET and North Shore can win this week...and North Shore beat ET in the final. That would be the best for me...statiscally speaking :o

[WILDCAT27]

Allen? Plano lost to Allen,who then lost in the first round because they were over rated. Just like I said in countless posts prior to them losing.

Rockwall? Do you mean the 6-5 Rockwall that Plano beat by 7?

Westfield? Pretty good but not in the same league as Trinity/Katy.

SKYLINE? DISD. End of story.

Reality shows up saturday.:cool:

Like I said... Im talking about a great 10-0 ALLEN team who choked in the playoffs w/ a SOPHMORE QB who struggled.

An underrated ROCKWALL team who Lost to Allen by 8, loss to SouthLakeCarroll by 7, a loss by 6, a loss by 5, and then Plano by 7. They may not have been able to pull out the wins, but they played many GREAT teams who are up there w/ trinity/katy very closely.

Westfeild may not be up there with trinity/katy... but they werent up there w/ PLANO either.:rolleyes: Couldv competed with any of trinity/katys opponents.

SKYLINE very talented D with many D1 athletes. Quick and talented team..also could'v competed with any of trinity/katys opponents.

[Boss Hawgette]

Ok, I'll be honest. I want ET to win for one reason only...to prevent PLANO from getting an 8th state title...and the additonal "W's" in the win column. At this point it is about school records, etc for me. But I certainly hope for an epic game.

But, with comments like the one above, It makes me want the "old tradition" team like PLANO to win. Teams like ET which have experienced most of their success in past decade seem to be very cocky.

As far as winning games when it counts...that is an ignorant excuse! So, a nationally televised game doesn't count? If your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS. No perinnial powerhouse wants an "L" next to a game whether is pre-season or post-season.

I can face the fact Permian got beat by a better team in the playoffs. I just wish the ET folks could man-up and state they got beat by a better team in the pre-season. Mistake free football is part of being a "better team" in the pre-season Permian was much better prepared that ET..and the results showed that.

In the 5 game MOJO vs TROJAN history, ET is up by 1 game. In the game series, Permian has outscored ET 99-89. I think permian knows how to play football just fine. ET got the best of Permian this year without question. Victories appear to go back and forth reguarly in this match up.

I guess Ideally, ET and North Shore can win this week...and North Shore beat ET in the final. That would be the best for me...statiscally speaking :o

Please don't take offense to comments like the one from tiger. That's not a very indicative attitude of Trojan fans, and I think your fellow Mojo fans will attest. If tiger will be so humbled as to recall the sickening feeling we all had a year and a few weeks ago. "Rubbing it in" against Permian is not a very smart move...especially with the outpouring of support we have had from Permian posters on this site.

Editorial comment: Before posting the above I had only read the first two "paragraphs" of the post. Now, after reading the rest of it, I really don't care if your feelings are hurt...apparently you can dish it out as well as receive it.

[powerofthehaka]

Ok, I'll be honest. I want ET to win for one reason only...to prevent PLANO from getting an 8th state title...and the additonal "W's" in the win column. At this point it is about school records, etc for me. But I certainly hope for an epic game.

But, with comments like the one above, It makes me want the "old tradition" team like PLANO to win. Teams like ET which have experienced most of their success in past decade seem to be very cocky.

As far as winning games when it counts...that is an ignorant excuse! So, a nationally televised game doesn't count? If your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS. No perinnial powerhouse wants an "L" next to a game whether is pre-season or post-season.

I can face the fact Permian got beat by a better team in the playoffs. I just wish the ET folks could man-up and state they got beat by a better team in the pre-season. Mistake free football is part of being a "better team" in the pre-season Permian was much better prepared that ET..and the results showed that.

In the 5 game MOJO vs TROJAN history, ET is up by 1 game. In the game series, Permian has outscored ET 99-89. I think permian knows how to play football just fine. ET got the best of Permian this year without question. Victories appear to go back and forth reguarly in this match up.

I guess Ideally, ET and North Shore can win this week...and North Shore beat ET in the final. That would be the best for me...statiscally speaking :o

Tiger94 is from commerce not euless or bedford.

[jdlewallen]

Alright fine, then make that Region I, III, & IV can't bring the wood!! :D

Plano took a knee also when their backups could have scored again to get into the upper 40's. Point is both teams have class.

Which team is gonna have the gas? The key for Trinity to win is to get pressure on the Plano QB to take away their passing game.


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Plano hasn't played Trinity yet. They will NOT score anywhere near 40 Saturday.

And Region I will bring plenty of wood this weekend....and a brick wall for Plano to bash their own heads into. Repeatedly.:D

[Football4life]

Plano, meet Trinity.

Stupid post you really have no clue if you dont think Plano is getting everyone's best shot its many peoples last games i think Plano is getting enough... P.S Westfield is a very good team

[fridaylights]

As a Lake Highlands fan, I can say we may be the only team that played both Plano AND SLC. After watching SLC for the past five years, I can say that they did not seem as unbeatable this year as last year. Newton is a very good runner but maybe hearlded more than he should be because of who is around him. The SLC defense seemed weaker this year than last year so it wasn't a huge surprise to me to see someone knock them off.

On the other hand, Plano has an outstanding team this year. Their running back performed great as did the QB and WRs. Their defense is maybe down a little but seems to be peaking late.

The one amazing thing about high school football is that winning tradition is a program but the chemistry of each years seniors and a few outstanding juniors in 5A seems very dynamic and a bigger control to success than tradition. Plano can be great one year and then average the next as can SLC.

I watched the first Trinity - Permian game and was a little surprised that they took it back the second meeting. Based upon this vast observation, I have got to say that if you made me pick, I'd take Plano although I'd rather say it is a tossup. In fact, in the D1 playoff picks, I was noticing that I was "soaring" to #238 of 450+ last week but I am the only one with Plano as my pre-playoff state champ (I moved all the way to #224 this week). I presume the weighting will still keep me down! At least I am in top 40 in D2!

[Trinity75]

I have listened to the webcast or watched the prep-cast-live coverage of all the ET and PLANO games.

Even prior to Permian getting dominated by ET in the playoffs, I told most people I knew that I didn't see how Permian could beat this team based on what I have been witnessing in their recent games. I even posted on this forum that I thought Permian would be an underdog. Obviously that was good judgment.

Anyway, I have been impressed with every game that ET has played in the playoffs. Plano on the other hand just seems like a confident team that gets the job done. Barely "scraping by" against Rockwall. But honestly, I don't see any standout areas of play that are a real threat from Plano. The ET defense is very much for REAL. This wil be real ROCK WALL this time :)

DEFENSIVELY, ET HAS DOMINATED EVERY OPPONENT :notworthy

In my opinion ET wins this game by 2-3 touchdowns.

Plus, I want to ET and Abilene win state. That way BOTH champions will have been beaten by MOJO in the same year :D No it doesn't mean a damn thing...but it will be a nice bit of trivia if it happens.

Good call Permian Fan

[Trinity75]

Your right we won't out tire you we'll just out play yeah. Hows that? :)

Your right no one is going to get out tired. Its going to in the 40's Saturday night and lots of energy will be in the building. If Plano can move the ball consistently and keep its defense rested it will be a great game.

If Trinity can't run against our 6-1 200 defense. Then they will lose. Our entire starting defense is 6-1 200 except for a 2 corners. I remember that was our defense in 93 and it worked pretty well against Trinity then which ran a similar offense.

Hey I'm 6' 2" 210 and I don't want to line up against Trinitys O-Line.

[jbusch]

That was a very nice compliment even if you did leave it on note paper held to our backs with a big knife!! :D

Next year my friend, we will pwn you like we did this year...

So is this game really THE game for the "State Title" like everyone said the Southlake vs Trinity game was last year?

P.S. Don't miss this game because it's all down hill from here!!! :eek::cool:




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How's Lovejoy looking for next year ? who are the players to watch?

[WildcatFan]

Bowie's nobody? 2 tds?....Well we do have are work cut out for us, we've never played a team like Plano

I know glad you agree you have your work cut out for you.

[WildcatFan]

Wow Plano is ranked higher than SLC :D

SOUTHWEST
Rk., School Rec.
1. Katy 13-0
2. Euless Trinity 12-1
3. Jenks, Okla. 13-1
4. Plano 12-1
5. Odessa Permian 12-1
6. Abilene 12-1
7. Southlake Carroll 11-2
8. Las Vegas, Bishop Gorman 14-0
9. Phoenix, Brophy 11-2
10. Fayetteville, Ark. 9-3-1

[Permian_Fan]

Ok, I'll be honest. I want ET to win for one reason only...to prevent PLANO from getting an 8th state title...and the additonal "W's" in the win column. At this point it is about school records, etc for me. But I certainly hope for an epic game.

But, with comments like the one above, It makes me want the "old tradition" team like PLANO to win. Teams like ET which have experienced most of their success in past decade seem to be very cocky.

As far as winning games when it counts...that is an ignorant excuse! So, a nationally televised game doesn't count? If your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS. No perinnial powerhouse wants an "L" next to a game whether is pre-season or post-season.

I can face the fact Permian got beat by a better team in the playoffs. I just wish the ET folks could man-up and state they got beat by a better team in the pre-season. Mistake free football is part of being a "better team" in the pre-season Permian was much better prepared that ET..and the results showed that.

In the 5 game MOJO vs TROJAN history, ET is up by 1 game. In the game series, Permian has outscored ET 99-89. I think permian knows how to play football just fine. ET got the best of Permian this year without question. Victories appear to go back and forth reguarly in this match up.

I guess Ideally, ET and North Shore can win this week...and North Shore beat ET in the final. That would be the best for me...statiscally speaking :o

Please don't take offense to comments like the one from tiger. That's not a very indicative attitude of Trojan fans, and I think your fellow Mojo fans will attest. If tiger will be so humbled as to recall the sickening feeling we all had a year and a few weeks ago. "Rubbing it in" against Permian is not a very smart move...especially with the outpouring of support we have had from Permian posters on this site.

Editorial comment: Before posting the above I had only read the first two "paragraphs" of the post. Now, after reading the rest of it, I really don't care if your feelings are hurt...apparently you can dish it out as well as receive it.

Ok, I am a little confused :confused: Where did I "dish" anything out? The only harsh words were surrounding a "conditional statement" that said IF your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS.

So, IF the shoe doesn't fit...then it doesn't apply. No harm, No foul

The subsequent comments about the history of match-up were just factual information lending to the "evenness" of the match-up.

The last comment was just confirming my comments in the first paragraph... that the remainder of the season was about upsetting the teams with the best historical records. It is not about hatred against any particular team...just promoting the teams with less winning history. Completely un-emotional for me :o

At any rate, as with everyone else. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

I just think the continuing comments about "unimportant game" are just ridiculous. Good football programs focus on EVERY game...as I stated, no one wants a loss at any stage of the season. Due to national coverage of the first game, more people will know that Permian beat ET this year than will ever know ET avenged the loss in the post season. Furthermore, if ET makes it to state (which I personally think they will). I will bet $1000 right now that it will mentioned no less than 10 times on the national TV coverage AGAIN that Permian "drilled" Trinity in the pre-season. It might be mentioned half that many times that ET avenged the loss on its march to state.

So, in my opinion the loss is quite important. It is blemish that will always be there no matter what. The loss that ruined a potentially "perfect season".

[Permian_Fan]

Wow Plano is ranked higher than SLC :D

SOUTHWEST
Rk., School Rec.
1. Katy 13-0
2. Euless Trinity 12-1
3. Jenks, Okla. 13-1
4. Plano 12-1
5. Odessa Permian 12-1
6. Abilene 12-1
7. Southlake Carroll 11-2
8. Las Vegas, Bishop Gorman 14-0
9. Phoenix, Brophy 11-2
10. Fayetteville, Ark. 9-3-1

Yeah, this really adds some perspective :o

I have been sitting here with a sense of disappointment over a Permian's 12-1 season.

However, that's pretty damn good company to be in...no matter how you look at it :)

I should be jubilent that they are not 6-4 (or worse) like a few short years back. Thanks coach Allman and staff :notworthy

[da hawaiian]

Last year there were three or four great teams and then there was everyone else.

This year it's wide open.

Makes for great football

[Boss Hawgette]

Ok, I am a little confused :confused: Where did I "dish" anything out? The only harsh words were surrounding a "conditional statement" that said IF your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS.

So, IF the shoe doesn't fit...then it doesn't apply. No harm, No foul

The subsequent comments about the history of match-up were just factual information lending to the "evenness" of the match-up.

The last comment was just confirming my comments in the first paragraph... that the remainder of the season was about upsetting the teams with the best historical records. It is not about hatred against any particular team...just promoting the teams with less winning history. Completely un-emotional for me :o

At any rate, as with everyone else. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

I just think the continuing comments about "unimportant game" are just ridiculous. Good football programs focus on EVERY game...as I stated, no one wants a loss at any stage of the season. Due to national coverage of the first game, more people will know that Permian beat ET this year than will ever know ET avenged the loss in the post season. Furthermore, if ET makes it to state (which I personally think they will). I will bet $1000 right now that it will mentioned no less than 10 times on the national TV coverage AGAIN that Permian "drilled" Trinity in the pre-season. It might be mentioned half that many times that ET avenged the loss on its march to state.

So, in my opinion the loss is quite important. It is blemish that will always be there no matter what. The loss that ruined a potentially "perfect season".

My bad, I guess it was a perfectly well written, unbiased essay. I guess I just saw the words "lazy LOSERS" and immediately turned red faced. I know I have hardly thought about our week two loss...the next week against Waco helped ease the pain of that loss, as did the subsequent weeks of winning.

I'm glad Permian put so much stock in their win over us...according to the fans (the ones that didn't let us hear, er read, the end of it for many weeks to come) it was a sign that Permian was indeed back. As if you need us to validate that your back to your winning ways...well, if that's what you need then let me just get it out - your back to your winning ways. There, feel validated?

As for a "blemish" on our perfect season...providing we are fortunate enough to get past Plano and then come out on top of either Judson or North Shore...it's gonna be awfully hard to see that blemish in those shiny new rings. Maybe we should just put a "P" on the ring instead of a "T" so we can constantly remind ourselves of our not so perfect season. :D

[Maroon Cathead]

Trinity and Plano are a terrific matchup.

On paper, Trinity is the favorite for this game.

Coach Lineweaver is an outstanding coach.

I've seen Trinity play. They are big and physical with good speed.

Plano might be knocked around some but won't fold. It will be a battle.

[oh_mojo91]

Everybody says "watch out for this guy, watch out for that guy" I say "WATCH OUT FOR TRINITY!"

I AGREE BIG TIME

[oh_mojo91]

Lots of good natured ribbing in here but I don't anyone expects this game to be anything but a war. You don't get to this point in the playoffs and not be an outstanding team.

I'll call BS on this one. Just like last year. The ET vs SLC game. this game was ten times better than the state game that SLC played in. Should have been the the final game of the year for both schools. The tough part about it is ET has had to play in the toughest part of this bracket and has whipped everone. you put them where plano's at and this weeks game would be ET vs Mojo. Good Luck ET, Not that you will need it.:notworthy

[DrEdward]

Wow Plano is ranked higher than SLC :D

SOUTHWEST
Rk., School Rec.
1. Katy 13-0
2. Euless Trinity 12-1
3. Jenks, Okla. 13-1
4. Plano 12-1
5. Odessa Permian 12-1
6. Abilene 12-1
7. Southlake Carroll 11-2
8. Las Vegas, Bishop Gorman 14-0
9. Phoenix, Brophy 11-2
10. Fayetteville, Ark. 9-3-1

Do you find that surprising given that Carroll lost its starting QB and two linebackers to injuries against Abilene? I am actually rather surprised that they are still as highly ranked as they are.

[Gazelle]

Do you find that surprising given that Carroll lost its starting QB and two linebackers to injuries against Abilene? I am actually rather surprised that they are still as highly ranked as they are.

I find it surprising in that there are several 1 loss teams, including my favorite, Plano, on the list, along w/ SLC, but GP North Shore, at 14 -0 is not.

[Gazelle]

If there are 35k there, that would be a great crowd. With 3 high schools in Plano, it ain't like the old days when everybody in town went to the big games.

I was only 5 years old in 1977, but I was at Texas Stadium for the Highland Park quarterfinals, Permian semi-finals, and Port Neches Grove state championship game. The whole city was there. It's not like that anymore.

But I expect a big crowd.

The '05 SLC Plano game had about 32k in for the only game that day. The Plano side was much more full. This Saturday will be much larger than that. The 40k sounds realistic.

[Butch Fifield]

I'll call BS on this one. Just like last year. The ET vs SLC game. this game was ten times better than the state game that SLC played in. Should have been the the final game of the year for both schools. The tough part about it is ET has had to play in the toughest part of this bracket and has whipped everone. you put them where plano's at and this weeks game would be ET vs Mojo. Good Luck ET, Not that you will need it.:notworthy

the only guarantee this saturday is that Plano will give Trinity a better game than Permian did.

[WILDCAT27]

The '05 SLC Plano game had about 32k in for the only game that day. The Plano side was much more full. This Saturday will be much larger than that. The 40k sounds realistic.

It was a 37,000 crowd that saturday in 05', Almost 40k. This game should attract alot of HS football fans for the state semi's at TS on a Saturday night after other games. HUGE crowd this Saturday. Good luck Plano, we will need it....and so will Trinity.

[jdlewallen]

the only guarantee this saturday is that Plano will give Trinity a better game than Permian did.

No guarantees in this game....

Personally, I would love to see Trinity Haka all over their arrogant backsides...:D

[WILDCAT27]

the only guarantee this saturday is that Plano will give Trinity a better game than Permian did.

...Sorry but I HIGHLY doubt that will happen. But I will say that Plano will give Euless their toughest game since the 1st Permian game this season. They lost to MOJO 30-3...that's a whoopin'. This Saturday will be very close either way it goes. One of the best games of the year.

Plano-Plano.......Wildcats!


PERMIAN VS. PLANO would have been better though.

[Soonertransplant]

Ok, I am a little confused :confused: Where did I "dish" anything out? The only harsh words were surrounding a "conditional statement" that said IF your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS.

I just think the continuing comments about "unimportant game" are just ridiculous. Good football programs focus on EVERY game...as I stated, no one wants a loss at any stage of the season. Due to national coverage of the first game, more people will know that Permian beat ET this year than will ever know ET avenged the loss in the post season. Furthermore, if ET makes it to state (which I personally think they will). I will bet $1000 right now that it will mentioned no less than 10 times on the national TV coverage AGAIN that Permian "drilled" Trinity in the pre-season. It might be mentioned half that many times that ET avenged the loss on its march to state.

So, in my opinion the loss is quite important. It is blemish that will always be there no matter what. The loss that ruined a potentially "perfect season".

Lazy Losers?? HUH???? and as for the continuing comments about the first match up being unimportant, I don't think either school and their fans saw either the '06 or '07 games between them as unimportant.
I don't recall many true Trinity fans minimizing the game or remarking in ANY way that the team/coaching staff believed it to be unimportant. With all the local news coverage of the two huge tv games for SL & ET in the same week, no one could say it didn't matter. If anything, they were trying to keep the team low key because of the very fear that the game was becoming TOO big. Coach L. (paraphrasing here) commented in a news story that with all the new starters, and experimentation with matchups and personnel in all phases of the game (particularly the O and D lines and a new QB), they knew the team was still in the learning process and wasn't going to be "clicking" like they would be once they were further into the season. But, they did not want to miss the opportunity to play a "storied" program like OP.

Trinity Fans have said over and over again that YES PERMIAN KICKED THE TROJANS' behinds from Odessa back to Euless. But....you have to get over it, let the kids learn from it, put it behind them and get on with the business of making their season the best it can be...and I think they have done a pretty decent job of that so far, ok? yes, the Trojans and everyone else within reading distance of this board will remember the day the MOJO vanquished the Haka.....but they will also remember the day the Trojans lived to play another (Satur) day ....and the one after that...and etc.:D

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

No guarantees in this game....

Personally, I would love to see Trinity Haka all over their arrogant backsides...:D

How are plano fans arrogrant? We are passionate about their team and they want them to win on Saturday? Isn't that like every other fan on this site this time of the year. My god, the MOJO fans were going crazy before the Trinity game talking all kinds of smack.

Plano hasn't been this close to a title in 13 years and the community and team sense they are on the verge of a record title #8. So ourexuberance is understandable. But to call us arrogant is unfair.

[wildcat9394]

The comment "Plano hasn't played anyone" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Coming out of 9-5a with a record of 9-1, beating a rockwall team who WOULD still be in the playoffs right now if they had beaten us...beating an awesome mesquite team with a top ranked defense...beating a spring westfield team who had lost 4 games in 5 years and had unreal athletes on both sides of the ball. And then finishing with skyline who has possibly 13 D1 recruits.

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

The comment "Plano hasn't played anyone" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Coming out of 9-5a with a record of 9-1, beating a rockwall team who WOULD still be in the playoffs right now if they had beaten us...beating an awesome mesquite team with a top ranked defense...beating a spring westfield team who had lost 4 games in 5 years and had unreal athletes on both sides of the ball. And then finishing with skyline who has possibly 13 D1 recruits.

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

I don't understand the orginal post and I am sure it's very frustrating to hear that. You are facing a very good team on Saturday I have no doubt the team will be ready and surprise many around the state. Play your game and turn your anger into motivation.

Good luck on Saturday. By the way I already got my plane ticket to San Antonio. Give'm hell.

[WILDCAT27]

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

Wrong.

Euless Trinity is the BEST team Plano has played this season so far. Plano is one of the best teams Trinity has played so far. This should be one of the biggest games of the year, and will be a battle to the end...I would still rather see Permian vs. Plano though.

[D-FW#1]

This one should be one for the ages!

[bigdaddydog]

Wrong.

Euless Trinity is the BEST team Plano has played this season so far. Plano is one of the best teams Trinity has played so far. This should be one of the biggest games of the year, and will be a battle to the end...I would still rather see Permian vs. Plano though.

Nope not yet. The BEST team Plano has played this year is the one that beat them. If ET beats Plano, THEN they are the BEST that Plano has played.

If Plano wins, then it just doesn't matter. :)


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[Gazelle]

Nope not yet. The BEST team Plano has played this year is the one that beat them. If ET beats Plano, THEN they are the BEST that Plano has played.
If Plano wins, then it just doesn't matter. :)
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Now BDD, that is just ridicules! That was regular season. It all starts over in the playoffs (the one-and-done sort of thing, ya know)

So what we have now in the playoffs is Rowlett is better than Allen (way better by point spread), and Skyline is way better than Rowlett, and Plano is WAY better than Skyline, and by your logic, way WAY WAY better than a first round playoff LOSER. :D

See you at the game

[Boss Hawgette]

The comment "Plano hasn't played anyone" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Coming out of 9-5a with a record of 9-1, beating a rockwall team who WOULD still be in the playoffs right now if they had beaten us...beating an awesome mesquite team with a top ranked defense...beating a spring westfield team who had lost 4 games in 5 years and had unreal athletes on both sides of the ball. And then finishing with skyline who has possibly 13 D1 recruits.

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

Haven't seen that here. Quit your :cry

[TrinityTrojan80]

The comment "Plano hasn't played anyone" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Coming out of 9-5a with a record of 9-1, beating a rockwall team who WOULD still be in the playoffs right now if they had beaten us...beating an awesome mesquite team with a top ranked defense...beating a spring westfield team who had lost 4 games in 5 years and had unreal athletes on both sides of the ball. And then finishing with skyline who has possibly 13 D1 recruits.

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

Most of those who you are calling ET fans are actually not our fans. We (for the most part) are not participating in that way. We realize (with experience) that we can be beaten any week. Plano is in this game because they deserve to be here. To say anything else would not be fair or correct! This game will be a classsic, two great teams that carry the torch for the region that they represent. Full of pride and hope that they can pull it off. The competition is stiff in Texas! I think all the teams left in the playoffs are better than many other states champion!

It's great to live in Texas!!! Win graciously,or lose with class and grace, but have some fun doing either!! Good luck to the Trojans and Wildcats, we are living the dream, how lucky are we.
Here's to a new "classic"!!

[stinger]

Ok, I'll be honest. I want ET to win for one reason only...to prevent PLANO from getting an 8th state title...and the additonal "W's" in the win column. At this point it is about school records, etc for me. But I certainly hope for an epic game.

But, with comments like the one above, It makes me want the "old tradition" team like PLANO to win. Teams like ET which have experienced most of their success in past decade seem to be very cocky.

As far as winning games when it counts...that is an ignorant excuse! So, a nationally televised game doesn't count? If your ball club doesn't think EVERY game counts...then they are a bunch of lazy LOSERS. No perinnial powerhouse wants an "L" next to a game whether is pre-season or post-season.

I can face the fact Permian got beat by a better team in the playoffs. I just wish the ET folks could man-up and state they got beat by a better team in the pre-season. Mistake free football is part of being a "better team" in the pre-season Permian was much better prepared that ET..and the results showed that.

In the 5 game MOJO vs TROJAN history, ET is up by 1 game. In the game series, Permian has outscored ET 99-89. I think permian knows how to play football just fine. ET got the best of Permian this year without question. Victories appear to go back and forth reguarly in this match up.

I guess Ideally, ET and North Shore can win this week...and North Shore beat ET in the final. That would be the best for me...statiscally speaking :o

Back up your words...where did you get the cocky Trinity posters idea?

[stinger]

The comment "Plano hasn't played anyone" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Coming out of 9-5a with a record of 9-1, beating a rockwall team who WOULD still be in the playoffs right now if they had beaten us...beating an awesome mesquite team with a top ranked defense...beating a spring westfield team who had lost 4 games in 5 years and had unreal athletes on both sides of the ball. And then finishing with skyline who has possibly 13 D1 recruits.

ET is a great football team. There is noooo doubt about that. But my question is have yall ever seen schemes on both sides of the ball like ours? the answer is NO. NO WAY IN HE** HAVE YOU GONE UP AGAINST A TEAM LIKE THIS. These guys dont care how big you are. They are outsized in almost every position every week, and yet they dominate. They dont just win games, they DOMINATE games.

ET fans on this site that are running their mouths about how great they are...trust me, yall are nothing that the wildcats havnt already seen. In fact, it looks like just another week of Spring Westfield in my opinion.

Plano wins. Big.

YOU are the arrogance people are talking about. The bell just rang, boy, go to you kindergarten class and get you crackers and juice.