View Full Version : Is 26-5a the toughest district in the State?
Currently, 26-5a has four teams playing for a regional title. With Converse Judson, Smithson Valley, SA Madison, and SA Reagan all being legit title contenders every year, does this make this the toughest district in the state of Texas? I say YES!!
SV2005
12-05-2007, 11:15 AM
Currently, 26-5a has four teams playing for a regional title. With Converse Judson, Smithson Valley, SA Madison, and SA Reagan all being legit title contenders every year, does this make this the toughest district in the state of Texas? I say YES!!
Honestly it's hard to make that argument. I would love to say yeah they are, but no one knows for sure. Because we play a totally different list of teams than regions 1,2, or 3. I think they are definetley a runner up for strongest in the state, might be the best but no one knows.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 11:17 AM
I would say they are in the top 3 or 4 but I don't think you could argue it is the best.
samavsfan23
12-05-2007, 11:24 AM
Not trying to be a homer, but trying to be neutral, I believe that they are prolly one of the top 2 or 3 in the state. This year I believe that the competition was a little weaker from teams like churchill, and Mac, but Wagner emerged as a team of the future.
POs success is hard to judge toughness because I will admit that our path to the semis is a little easier except this year. damn rivas.:D That kid is ridiculous.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 11:27 AM
My only point would be that you can't use the fact that 265 has 4 teams in the regional finals as an argument.
samavsfan23
12-05-2007, 11:29 AM
My only point would be that you can't use the fact that 265 has 4 teams in the regional finals as an argument.
Exactly.
Vols4Ever
12-05-2007, 11:30 AM
4 teams in the playoffs still ---- yeah, I think 26-5A is the best. And I am not even from the SA area.
:notworthy
Vols4Ever
12-05-2007, 11:32 AM
Why not? They took care of the business they had to take care of. Good grief --- Judson beat a very good Aus. Bowie team too.
samavsfan23
12-05-2007, 11:39 AM
4 teams in the playoffs still ---- yeah, I think 26-5A is the best. And I am not even from the SA area.
:notworthy
ok, from top to bottom I believe that 265a is the toughest, but besides Judson and a couple of teams from NEISD, we haven't held the hardware up as much as some districts. So really it all depends on what you judge by. I know Madison is synonymous for being good but not being able to get past the region final.(Until this year:p) So historically speaking they aren't, but in today's world I will be honest and not so humble we do have the toughest district.
Redhoss
12-05-2007, 11:47 AM
4 teams in the playoffs still ---- yeah, I think 26-5A is the best. And I am not even from the SA area.
:notworthy
Did you factor in that region 4 by all the stats is tied with region 3 for the weakest region in producing State Champions? :eek:
I can't agree with your conclusion.
zippy
12-05-2007, 11:51 AM
It really does not matter much who you play. Granted, Reg 4 is not as tough as say Reg 1. However, the beat everyone, and only get 1 week against valley teams. The rest of the time they play decent teams. Austin High, Austin Bowie, etc. These teams that are in it right now can compete with just about anyone. A couple of them have proved that. The other two have been getting very close. Any way you look at it, and try to blame it on the Reg, you would still have to say that this is a very tough district to still have the 4 teams in it in December. I would be willing to say if you put 26-5A up against any districts top 4, 26-5A would come out with the last team standing almost always. They would go 4-0 a lot, 3-1 many times, and 2-2 maybe a time or two. If someone does not think so, match up your top 4 and see if you think it would end up otherwise. Maybe I am missing a district with that much depth somewhere.
samavsfan23
12-05-2007, 11:53 AM
It really does not matter much who you play. Granted, Reg 4 is not as tough as say Reg 1. However, the beat everyone, and only get 1 week against valley teams. The rest of the time they play decent teams. Austin High, Austin Bowie, etc. These teams that are in it right now can compete with just about anyone. A couple of them have proved that. The other two have been getting very close. Any way you look at it, and try to blame it on the Reg, you would still have to say that this is a very tough district to still have the 4 teams in it in December. I would be willing to say if you put 26-5A up against any districts top 4, 26-5A would come out with the last team standing almost always. They would go 4-0 a lot, 3-1 many times, and 2-2 maybe a time or two. If someone does not think so, match up your top 4 and see if you think it would end up otherwise. Maybe I am missing a district with that much depth somewhere.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Not really, but good post. Thats what I meant.:D
THEsportsauthority
12-05-2007, 11:54 AM
26-5A is a good district in a terrible region. Region IV is by far the worst in the state. Judson has benefitted from this for years. They are a great program...don't get me wrong...but if they had to play in any of the other regions...they wouldn't have had near as much success. They have a cakewalk to the semi's year in and year out....while other teams around the state are having to grind it out just to make it through the early round games. Again...no disrespect to Judson and the other 26-5A teams that are having good years...but it wouldn't be this way if not for the region they play in.
seven11
12-05-2007, 12:26 PM
ok none of yall that have posted on this subject really read and thought bout your answers... 265A is the toughest district year in and year out... just becasuse we dont win it all every year like SLC and Katy doesnt mean that the district isnt the toughest... 5 teams this year were very good and thats like a year off bc usually there are more... example we went 5-5 last year and 9-1 this year... its called every game is a close game that can swing different ways. now SLC and Katy might alsays get farther but the other teams in their districts dont even compare and if you were to take the top 6 teams and play them 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 6v6 265A would prob win 4 maybe 5 of those games
I think a lot of people failed to read what I actually posted. I asked if 26 5A was the toughest district? The toughness of the region is not what I asked. As tough as SV has played SLC the last few times they met, I'm almost confident to say that if you put a SLC or any other Super Power Team in Texas in this district, they wouldn't have gone undefeited as long as they have.
Example: A few years ago a undefieted Spring Westfield team got it handed to them by a 9 and 4 Judson Rocket Team!
jdlewallen
12-05-2007, 12:35 PM
I think a lot of people failed to read what I actually posted. I asked if 26 5A was the toughest district? The toughness of the region is not what I asked. As tough as SV has played SLC the last few times they met, I'm almost confident to say that if you put a SLC or any other Super Power Team in Texas in this district, they wouldn't have gone undefeited as long as they have.
Perhaps, though I doubt it. I would counter-argue that if you put the SA schools up against the competition in Region I or II, they would have few to none left by round 3.
Since the playoffs are not based on seedings, you could have the second best team in the state eliminated by round 2, depending upon how it works out (witness the SLC-ET game last year)....
ok none of yall that have posted on this subject really read and thought bout your answers... 265A is the toughest district year in and year out... just becasuse we dont win it all every year like SLC and Katy doesnt mean that the district isnt the toughest... 5 teams this year were very good and thats like a year off bc usually there are more... example we went 5-5 last year and 9-1 this year... its called every game is a close game that can swing different ways. now SLC and Katy might alsays get farther but the other teams in their districts dont even compare and if you were to take the top 6 teams and play them 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 6v6 265A would prob win 4 maybe 5 of those games
That would be an interesting way to look at this. Good Insight, 7-11.
My son plays Middle School six man ball. Their "playoffs" are like this, and it is amazing the competition when played this way. I mean, his team finished third in his district, so they played the third place team from the North Division. We won 7 - 6. The game before ours was a 2 point game, while the game after ours was a 3 point game. I was six manned out before the championship game.
I watch a lot of football, and 26-5 is a VERY strong district. Without some sort of head to head games, it is hard to gauge. Even pre-district games can be misleading. I mean, if you count on results such as these, Madison should have handed Warren their hat (based on Madison beating O'Connor BAD early in the year, and then O'Connor beating Warren at the end of the year).
I would dare say that the 26-5 has 6 legit playoff teams most years. What other districts can anyone think of, that can offer that? I don't want to sound brash, I would just like input from others.
The following districts have winning records in both non-district and playoffs.
(* means teams still left in po's)
Reg. 1 - 3*, 6*, 8*
Reg. 2 - 14*, 16
Reg. 3 - 17, 22*
Reg. 4 - 26****
District 26 is definitely the cream of region 4.
In games outside of Reg. 4-5A, they are 4-0 against Reg. 2-5A and 1-3 against 4A schools.
It is one of the strongest in the state. THE toughest is up for debate.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 12:43 PM
If we are talking about just this season I would say 165 in Houston was a better district than 265 overall. I know it was early in the season but SV beat the 5th place team from 265 by only 12 points. I feel like Westfield could have handled anyone in 265. When you factor in DT with Madison then things change a bit, but he isn't there. With DT 265 is probably the best in the state (Madison top 3 in the state and SV top 10) but with out DT you just have SV.
That Same year that Spring Westfield got it! Euless Tr. almost got it in the State game by that same 9-4 team being down 14 pts at halftime, only to ralley back in the 2nd half. My Point, if 3 or 4 other teams in that district beat that same 9-4 team. How good really is this district.
mcneilmav
12-05-2007, 12:49 PM
ok none of yall that have posted on this subject really read and thought bout your answers... 265A is the toughest district year in and year out... just becasuse we dont win it all every year like SLC and Katy doesnt mean that the district isnt the toughest... 5 teams this year were very good and thats like a year off bc usually there are more... example we went 5-5 last year and 9-1 this year... its called every game is a close game that can swing different ways. now SLC and Katy might alsays get farther but the other teams in their districts dont even compare and if you were to take the top 6 teams and play them 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 6v6 265A would prob win 4 maybe 5 of those games
From a Dist. 14-5A mindset, I'd like to see it. Would be interesting. I've always thought of 26-5A as among the toughest in the state though. Right up there with 14-5A. :D
nevaplayedk9
12-05-2007, 12:52 PM
I think a lot of people failed to read what I actually posted. I asked if 26 5A was the toughest district? The toughness of the region is not what I asked. As tough as SV has played SLC the last few times they met, I'm almost confident to say that if you put a SLC or any other Super Power Team in Texas in this district, they wouldn't have gone undefeited as long as they have.
tru dat!!!!!
year in and year out it is hard to go undefeated in this district. it happens,but not every year.....good point, cuz each week is a dog fight!
jdlewallen
12-05-2007, 12:58 PM
nevaplayedk9;680815]I think a lot of people failed to read what I actually posted. I asked if 26 5A was the toughest district? The toughness of the region is not what I asked. As tough as SV has played SLC the last few times they met, I'm almost confident to say that if you put a SLC or any other Super Power Team in Texas in this district, they wouldn't have gone undefeited as long as they have.
tru dat!!!!!
year in and year out it is hard to go undefeated in this district. it happens,but not every year.....good point, cuz each week is a dog fight!
I would disagree. SLC ran the table in the state, not just their district, which makes your arguement false.
seven11
12-05-2007, 01:01 PM
I would disagree. SLC ran the table in the state, not just their district, which makes your arguement false.
no they dont play a playoff contender everyweek so therefor its actually correct
HOOKEM
12-05-2007, 01:10 PM
Does not really matter how you compare. You are never going to have a scientific answer.
Here are some facts
Converse Judson has six titles...Katy and SLC do not.
265a is the only district to have two state champs in the same year.
265a has had 4 appearances in the state title game since 2002 by more than one team. SLC has 5 appearances (props to SLC)and Katy only 2.
265a 9 appearnces in the title game since 1995 by 4 different teams. Thanks again KATY for the minor miscalculation in the rules in 98' Katy has 4 appearances still up to the task of Jrock and SLC.
and oh yeah,
ALL 4 teams are still alive in 07'.
nobody else can say that.
Just wanted to lend some facts to an otherwise opinionated thread.
If "it's and But's were candy and nuts everyday would be like Christmas"
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Does not really matter how you compare. You are never going to have a scientific answer.
Here are some facts
Converse Judson has six titles...Katy and SLC do not.
265a is the only district to have two state champs in the same year.
265a has had 4 appearances in the state title game since 2002 by more than one team. SLC has 5 appearances (props to SLC)and Katy only 2.
265a 9 appearnces in the title game since 1995 by 4 different teams. Thanks again KATY for the minor miscalculation in the rules in 98' Katy has 4 appearances still up to the task of Jrock and SLC.
and oh yeah,
ALL 4 teams are still alive in 07'.
nobody else can say that.
Just wanted to lend some facts to an otherwise opinionated thread.
If "it's and But's were candy and nuts everyday would be like Christmas"
What if none of those teams make the state game?
SVFAWTW
12-05-2007, 01:28 PM
Everyone keeps focusing on the playoffs. This thread is not about that, the whole point is that 265 has 4 teams left. That is used to give you an example that maybe those 4 teams are not the best but they are still in it.
Forget about the Region and the playoffs the point he is making is As a whole the 265 has the most difficult district schedule. What people are saying is if you put a team like SLC or Katy in the district, both of those teams would have more of a challenge in district play than they currently do.
Now don't misunderstand me, maybe Katy and SLC would still go undefeated but what everyone is saying is they wouldn't have the 60-10 scoring games they are used to.(Just an example). 265 would as a whole would be more challenging than any other district because there are more teams here that put up a fight than other districts.
TrinityTrojan80
12-05-2007, 01:37 PM
That Same year that Spring Westfield got it! Euless Tr. almost got it in the State game by that same 9-4 team being down 14 pts at halftime, only to ralley back in the 2nd half. My Point, if 3 or 4 other teams in that district beat that same 9-4 team. How good really is this district.
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Everyone keeps focusing on the playoffs. This thread is not about that, the whole point is that 265 has 4 teams left. That is used to give you an example that maybe those 4 teams are not the best but they are still in it.
Forget about the Region and the playoffs the point he is making is As a whole the 265 has the most difficult district schedule. What people are saying is if you put a team like SLC or Katy in the district, both of those teams would have more of a challenge in district play than they currently do.
Now don't misunderstand me, maybe Katy and SLC would still go undefeated but what everyone is saying is they wouldn't have the 60-10 scoring games they are used to.(Just an example). 265 would as a whole would be more challenging than any other district because there are more teams here that put up a fight than other districts.
So is it not about the playoffs or is it?
:D
MADFAN#1
12-05-2007, 01:57 PM
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
Not a single word on the actual question posted. Nice job TrinityTrojan80 on the hijack attempt.
I believe it is because they have more than one team making deep playoff runs year in and year out.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 02:04 PM
Not a single word on the actual question posted. Nice job TrinityTrojan80 on the hijack attempt.
I believe it is because they have more than one team making deep playoff runs year in and year out.
That goes back to the weak region. I think if you drop the four teams in region 3 this year then 1 makes it to the regional finals (SV).
MADFAN#1
12-05-2007, 02:13 PM
That goes back to the weak region. I think if you drop the four teams in region 3 this year then 1 makes it to the regional finals (SV).
Have you seen every team in Region 3 play this year that you feel u r qualified to make that comment? I am not trying to bring down SV, but rather to bring up the other three, u r discounting. Until the actual games are played u can speculate all u want on who would win. It is just ur opinion. Thanks for ur support of THE 265 football teams.
Fleeman93
12-05-2007, 02:16 PM
Have you seen every team in Region 3 play this year that you feel u r qualified to make that comment? I am not trying to bring down SV, but rather to bring up the other three, u r discounting. Until the actual games are played u can speculate all u want on who would win. It is just ur opinion. Thanks for ur support of THE 265 football teams.
Of course it is just my opinion much like "is 265 the toughest district in the state." Judson is not a great team this year. Madison is not a great team without DT and I think we will see that this weekend. I think Reagan would have a tough time with the likes of NS, Hightower, Cy Ridge, Cy Fair, Eisenhower or Pearland. I think SV would do well in region 3 and most likely make it to the R3 finals. Again, if DT is still in the mix then we have a whole different argument but he isn't and we don't.
HOOKEM
12-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Everyone keeps focusing on the playoffs. This thread is not about that, the whole point is that 265 has 4 teams left. That is used to give you an example that maybe those 4 teams are not the best but they are still in it.
Forget about the Region and the playoffs the point he is making is As a whole the 265 has the most difficult district schedule. What people are saying is if you put a team like SLC or Katy in the district, both of those teams would have more of a challenge in district play than they currently do.
Now don't misunderstand me, maybe Katy and SLC would still go undefeated but what everyone is saying is they wouldn't have the 60-10 scoring games they are used to.(Just an example). 265 would as a whole would be more challenging than any other district because there are more teams here that put up a fight than other districts.
Finally someone with brains here
HOOKEM
12-05-2007, 02:38 PM
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
Take away this and add that? You cannot playout a game as only you see it.
And just to add fuel to your fire:
1992 Judson 52 Trinity 0
Not very competative.
rebel27
12-05-2007, 02:40 PM
I would say they are in the top 3 or 4 but I don't think you could argue it is the best.
the arguement was made when the thread was started.
bullrock
12-05-2007, 02:54 PM
C'mon Hook'em. There is a slim chance we'll have a rematch with the Haka and we don't need to start this now. They were one of the classiest teams we played, on the field. Thier mascot invading our territory as time ran out on the game clock was a little stupid and I did see an older Polynesian man whipping up on a young Rocket fan outside the gates after the game. Other than that, it was a great atmosphere.
RedRage00
12-05-2007, 03:01 PM
Take away this and add that? You cannot playout a game as only you see it.
And just to add fuel to your fire:
1992 Judson 52 Trinity 0
Not very competative.
That is so 15 years ago.
lol
RR
Redhoss
12-05-2007, 03:46 PM
Everyone keeps focusing on the playoffs. This thread is not about that, the whole point is that 265 has 4 teams left. That is used to give you an example that maybe those 4 teams are not the best but they are still in it.
Forget about the Region and the playoffs the point he is making is As a whole the 265 has the most difficult district schedule. What people are saying is if you put a team like SLC or Katy in the district, both of those teams would have more of a challenge in district play than they currently do.
Now don't misunderstand me, maybe Katy and SLC would still go undefeated but what everyone is saying is they wouldn't have the 60-10 scoring games they are used to.(Just an example). 265 would as a whole would be more challenging than any other district because there are more teams here that put up a fight than other districts.
I predict two will be left after this weekend :D
rebel27
12-05-2007, 03:59 PM
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
that game wasn't decided until mid fourth quater. what a bunch of crap.
Jayhawker
12-05-2007, 04:04 PM
I will be glad after this week -- when only 2 are left.:rolleyes:
SValum03
12-05-2007, 04:56 PM
I would disagree. SLC ran the table in the state, not just their district, which makes your arguement false.
But if they had to do it every week, every year, I think it would be a little different.
DiamondJ2
12-05-2007, 05:13 PM
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
A lot closer than 52-0, which could have been a lot worse if starters had played in the 4th quarter.
shooter
12-05-2007, 05:21 PM
lets ask this question how many teams in the state of texas can say they have already played 3 regional championship qualifiers at this point. i know of 4 teams that can say thay have already faced 3 teams that are in the regional finals this week
Madison
Smithson Valley
Reagan
Judson (almost had a 4th in Leander)
any others?
SVFAWTW
12-05-2007, 05:54 PM
I predict two will be left after this weekend :D
Redhoss where are you getting this information from please back up what you say with facts. :D ;) oh but won't the playoffs just seem a bit darker after this weekend?:cry lol good luck to everyone come saturday, but for now let the arguing continue
Bottomline
12-05-2007, 06:37 PM
The only ones that don't agree are the haters. :mad: How many teams are left in your district ? Does your district have district games in consecutive weeks against the likes of Reagan, Judson, SV and Madison ? Churchill, Wagner and Roosevelt could've made it if it were playing in any other district but 26 5a :notworthy
shooter
12-05-2007, 06:41 PM
The only ones that don't agree are the haters. :mad: How many teams are left in your district ? Does your district have district games in consecutive weeks against the likes of Reagan, Judson, SV and Madison ? Churchill, Wagner and Roosevelt could've made it if it were playing in any other district but 26 5a :notworthy
Roosevelt v Weslaco would have been a good game
STB24
12-05-2007, 11:17 PM
Just to correct you, Trinity fumbled at the inch-line and Judson returned it 99 yds for a TD. It was 14-14 at half, Trinity scored 28 straight points. It was a sloppy win since we made some mistakes but could have been a lot worse. Judson deserved to be there, but were not very comptitive in the end. If you got the impression that it was a close game, I don't know what you were watching. By saying it could have been a lot worse, I mean take away the fumble and add that TD that they didn't give to us on the play before and add the TD that we scored on the last play of the game from the one. (they didn't award either) The game could have been 42-7.. woulda coulda shoulda
we are happy with the way it turned out, but a close game, no.
i coulda swore that fumbles were part of the game:confused: you cant take that play away from judson
but dimitri nance is one of my favorite college backs now:D.. he got ALOT bigger!
HOOKEM
12-06-2007, 11:53 AM
lets ask this question how many teams in the state of texas can say they have already played 3 regional championship qualifiers at this point. i know of 4 teams that can say thay have already faced 3 teams that are in the regional finals this week
Madison
Smithson Valley
Reagan
Judson (almost had a 4th in Leander)
any others?
Oooh SNAP!
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