Gut Check Time For Longview

[Lobo9498]

First off, I want to congratulate Rockwall on an outstanding game. The Lobos were outplayed AND outcoached the entire night. I am not afraid to say that. The starters were in the game the entire night on both sides.

Carlin made some good decisions at times, especially late in the game. Decker missed a PAT early in the game, and redeemed himself with the field goal to put us ahead at the end. Vondrell made some good runs, nothing too spectacular, but he kept the ball moving at times. We had some good plays on the passing game, and some drops and overthrows that hurt us.

Rockwall....WOW...all can say. Their offense had our D looking silly all night. I don't know how many times they ran the same play for 5 yards at least. And our secondary left guys WIDE open.

Also....STUPID, STUPID, STUPID penalties. We had numerous personal fouls called on us. That is just unacceptable. You have to control your emotions on the field. There were some questionable calls on Rockwall too. There were a few fights that almost broke out throughout the game. It was unreal.

I have in no way stated that Longview would win State, or that they could possibly beat SLC. They could have a chance, but I have NOT said that they WOULD. With Horn having to possibly forfeit their win against Rockwall, the Jackets could possibly make the playoffs and go D1. Everything is still up in the air in our district for the most part. JT won tonight, Lee won tonight. Some things are still yet to be decided. Longview gets a week off next week to get their heads together and prepare for the rest of district and the playoffs.

On my way out, I congratulated some Rockwall fans on the great game they played tonight. They gave us a scare, just like last year. I hope they stay in our district, it has become a very GOOD rivalry in just two years. They give it 110% on the field that is for sure. I can see why they beat Lee. They took it to us tonight. I am glad a game like this happened now as opposed to the playoffs. Our team and fans needed a game like this. I know we are NOT invincible. We have weaknesses, and they got exploited tonight. The team has to do what they did and just keep pushing. This was a gut check for them, and thankfully they came out on top. It was in question most of the night.

Congrats to Rockwall, and good luck the rest of the way in district, and possibly the playoffs. Their band was also one of the best I have seen from our district, and this year. They were impressive.

*wipes sweat off his brow and takes a deep breath to calm down*

Lobo9498

[GarlandOwl06]

Who would you predict would be the 3 playoff teams in this district? Longview and JT look to be givens but who will take the 3rd spot and do you think JT could beat Longview and move Lobos to the 2 seed?? We will play the 2 seed...

[Lobo9498]

IF Horn does have to forfeit the win against RW, then the Jackets could go 3rd possibly. And, if the Lobos play like they did tonight, JT could beat us. It is possible. For that matter, NM could beat us. The Longview/JT game will have the feel of the classic games from the 90's. It will be nice to have JT actually playing well. Tonight was a good test for our team. It wasn't pretty, but it was a win. We managed to get it. Luck was just on our side, along with time. Rockwall did a good job of keeping the ball away from us. But, we got the lucky breaks and pulled it out.

I think it could be Longview, JT, and Rockwall. But, nothing has been decided yet. Not even the district championship.

[myround0]

Carlin was 3-8 that turns out was enough to win, TONIGHT...King needs to let him throw the ball more, It is clear teams will look at what Rockwall did and they are going to leave the passing lanes open for Pongview and go eight in the box...Especially if our Defense falls off again...i am sure teams will trade score as long as Longview scores come through the air...and play for the last possession...I is clear swing passes and the tight end I am sure reese could have had about three touchdowns, we were outcoached, Rockwall won this game in the week they had off, they did their homework and stayed true to making us win through the air and they came a field goal short...you have to tip your hat to them...

[pack0808]

Carlin was 3-8 that turns out was enough to win, TONIGHT...King needs to let him throw the ball more, It is clear teams will look at what Rockwall did and they are going to leave the passing lanes open for Pongview and go eight in the box...Especially if our Defense falls off again...i am sure teams will trade score as long as Longview scores come through the air...and play for the last possession...I is clear swing passes and the tight end I am sure reese could have had about three touchdowns, we were outcoached, Rockwall won this game in the week they had off, they did their homework and stayed true to making us win through the air and they came a field goal short...you have to tip your hat to them...


Longview almost scored 40 points so what if Carlin was 3 for 8 the offense did their part??

[PackAttack2005]

I hope when the playoffs start that the officials will tighten up on the players that show unsportsman like attitudes when they score or make a big plays. I saw the Lobo highlights and I saw the Lobos do that almost everytime they scored, even saw Ivory spike the ball on a TD run. That kind of stuff goes on mainly because a coach doesn't demand disipline from his players. Longview wasn't getting their way in the second half and they wanted to start fighting.
According to the radio announcer, the entire Lobo bench came onto the field in the fourth quarter trying to fight after a Rockwall onside kick.

That would never fly in Lufkin, Outlaw does not tolerate his players acting like that.

[pack0808]

spiking the ball on a td?? That is not a big deal to me at all!! Nothing wrong with showing that you are excited when scoring a td in a GAME?? Now taunting is a different story!! I do not have a problem with a guy showing a little excitement after the score as long as it is not blatantly disrespectful. I mean this is a game!!

[Kingwolf]

the discipline on this team is a joke........King absolutely lost control in this game....he has got to get in thier face.........

we were outcoached, outplayed, and lost our cool way to many times....the refs did not help either (not an excuse because they called a horrible, horrible game on BOTH sides.................

they expect to walk in and just walk out with a W....i have not criticized King all year but one comment he made in the coaches show made me want to puke.....He basically said that this off week came at the halfway point, 8-0, and another 8 to go........

HOW CAN U SAY THAT AFTER THE WAY YOUR TEAM PLAYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have not been this p.o.'ed in a long time but the boys played absolutely pathetic....if it was not for Carlin we lose, lose, lose.........

[LPFAN]

spiking the ball on a td?? That is not a big deal to me at all!! Nothing wrong with showing that you are excited when scoring a td in a GAME?? Now taunting is a different story!! I do not have a problem with a guy showing a little excitement after the score as long as it is not blatantly disrespectful. I mean this is a game!!
It wasn't really just a normal spike. He crossed the goal line with a defender on him and while he was still moving with the defender on him he spiked it as if he was trying to hit the defender with it before the defender even had a chance to let go of him. Believe me if you saw it you could see the attitude that went along with it. Sure a spike is common for an excited player but this was different. Just my opinion though. I know when I see anger and bad attitude and that is excactly what I saw.

[SLCDRGN]

What a lack of discipline this LV team showed tonight. These guys are not a team, they are a bunch of cocky individuals. Totally classless tonight & this will get them beat early in the playoffs if the inmates keep running the show.

[Lobo9498]

A lot of the personal fouls came after Rockwall players did something, and we got caught retaliating. YES, it was stupid and there is no excuse, but it went both ways tonight....and I doubt ANY of the LP fans saw THAT on the highlights or radio. The "fight" was started after one of our players ended up on their sidelines and THEY went after him. Some of the Lobos, as well as the Jackets, came onto the field, but it was brought under control.

There is no excuse for ANY of that on the field. Emotions were high all night. There were calls that were not made on both sides. I saw a lot of pushing on both sides. I didn't feel that Ivory spiked the ball AT the player, he was just excited.

But, who I am? I am just a "homer" Lobo fan that supports his team. I saw things on both sides. The announcers, if you weren't listening to Longview's, were probably trying to spin it in their favor. It happens though. Oh well.

This was a hard fought game on both sides. Longview let Rockwall stay in the game, and they almost lost it. It took another last minute drive to win it. Just like last year. But, a win is a win. Most people don't talk about SLC having to get a last second field goal last year to win the title do they? They forget that part, just that they won it. That's all that matters. It may be ugly, but a win is a win. It showed a lot of heart on both sides for both teams. Neither team gave up. Neither team layed down. They laid it all on the line and played the entire game.

We'll see what happens. I could care less about SLC, or ET, or Westfield, or Lufkin for that matter. I will worry about ANY of those teams IF and WHEN we meet them. Until then, they don't matter. They can all shut up. Longview is NOT invincible, and neither is any of the other teams. ANY team can win on ANY night. We all know that, even if we don't want to admit it.

Lobo9498

[Kingwolf]

lobo9498...you and i obviously feel the same way after this game....whether the boys were baited or not, we hardly ever did that against Evangel....they have to stay in control or we lose to a good team.......i have had a minute to settle down but good gracious, if this team plays a complete game, they can beat anyone..........

and everyone knows that i am not a blind LV homer............

[toonman]

Lobo Fans - see what happens when you pull your starters out after the first quarter, you almost lose a game. Oh sorry, you did have all the starters in all game. What happened to the self elected State Champs this week? Nearly lost to an unranked team. I am sure we will now see excuse after excuse after excuse. A bit of humble pie from Lobo Fans would be refreshing.

[Lobo9498]

What a lack of discipline this LV team showed tonight. These guys are not a team, they are a bunch of cocky individuals. Totally classless tonight & this will get them beat early in the playoffs if the inmates keep running the show.


That was a classless post if I had ever seen one. What happened tonight, was NOT the Lobo team we had seen all season. There is no excuse for it, you're right. And, you might be right about IF it happens again. But, it went both ways....but you look past that....IF you even saw it. The pushing, mouthing off, late hits, fighting was happening on BOTH sides, but you neglect to see that probably, or even admit it happened.....then again you probably are just going off of what others are saying, and you didn't see a thing tonight. Oh well.

Tonight was the worst I have seen the Lobos play all season, and I truly hope we do NOT see it again. To say they are "inmates" is just stupid. Go ahead and stay in your rich world over there. Fine by me. Have fun in D1.

[Lobo9498]

Lobo Fans - see what happens when you pull your starters out after the first quarter, you almost lose a game. Oh sorry, you did have all the starters in all game. What happened to the self elected State Champs this week? Nearly lost to an unranked team. I am sure we will now see excuse after excuse after excuse. A bit of humble pie from Lobo Fans would be refreshing.


There is no excuse from me. Rockwall played well. VERY well. The fans that are electing us State Champs are NOT true Lobo fans. They are being stupid. We haven't won the title yet.

[LoboFan07]

Hats off to Rockwall. They played SO different than from what I saw vs Highland Park. They didn't bring that many people but they sure were into it. They came to play. And Longview didn't.

Longview played absolutely horrible. We should've lost to be honest. We deserved to. There was no question.

We left guys open all night long. We made stupid mistakes, penalty after penalty.

And if anybody didn't think this was a rivalry. You obviously missed this game. If Longview and Rockwall stay, this will be one of the bigger rivalries for some reason. There were atleast 3 fights. Unsportsmanlike calls all night long.

It was horrible. The 2nd half went on forever. I really thought we were going to lose it. We deserved to like I said.

The only thing positive I see out of this game. Is that we won. We were put in the hardest situation we've had all season long, and we pulled it out somehow. Had 1:06 on the clock and we scored with 6 seconds left.

Im just glad this happened in the regular season and not in the playoffs.

Again Congrats to Rockwall. With Mesquite Horn forfeiting their win over the Yellowjackets cause of an ineligible player, the Yellowjackets will most likely head to the playoffs.

[LPFAN]

A lot of the personal fouls came after Rockwall players did something, and we got caught retaliating. YES, it was stupid and there is no excuse, but it went both ways tonight....and I doubt ANY of the LP fans saw THAT on the highlights or radio. The "fight" was started after one of our players ended up on their sidelines and THEY went after him. Some of the Lobos, as well as the Jackets, came onto the field, but it was brought under control.

There is no excuse for ANY of that on the field. Emotions were high all night. There were calls that were not made on both sides. I saw a lot of pushing on both sides. I didn't feel that Ivory spiked the ball AT the player, he was just excited.

But, who I am? I am just a "homer" Lobo fan that supports his team. I saw things on both sides. The announcers, if you weren't listening to Longview's, were probably trying to spin it in their favor. It happens though. Oh well.

This was a hard fought game on both sides. Longview let Rockwall stay in the game, and they almost lost it. It took another last minute drive to win it. Just like last year. But, a win is a win. Most people don't talk about SLC having to get a last second field goal last year to win the title do they? They forget that part, just that they won it. That's all that matters. It may be ugly, but a win is a win. It showed a lot of heart on both sides for both teams. Neither team gave up. Neither team layed down. They laid it all on the line and played the entire game.

We'll see what happens. I could care less about SLC, or ET, or Westfield, or Lufkin for that matter. I will worry about ANY of those teams IF and WHEN we meet them. Until then, they don't matter. They can all shut up. Longview is NOT invincible, and neither is any of the other teams. ANY team can win on ANY night. We all know that, even if we don't want to admit it.

Lobo9498
I can and have admitted it since before the season started and during this season. I have been saying that since before the season started about my team and any other team so why tell people to shut up. It is not like you are telling me and a lot of other fans something we don't already know. I think most people were just tired of hearing some of the nonsense that came from some Lobo fans. I know Bleedgreen (the original one) and Kingwolf are not like some of those that post such nonsense. I know my team is not unstoppable. Anything can happen.

[pack0808]

There is no excuse from me. Rockwall played well. VERY well. The fans that are electing us State Champs are NOT true Lobo fans. They are being stupid. We haven't won the title yet.


I think some of the Lufkin fans are going by the tv game but i did not notice anything?? I was watching the stros a lot so i cannot say. Lufkin does their share of arrogant things on the field also. Yes LPFAN i agree there is a difference between just spiking the ball on a td compared to spiking it on somebody. That should be a flag every time.

Yes all great teams have close games Lobo but comparing SV and Rockwall is a little ludarcis?? In 3 years SLC has had 4 very close games and the rest were ugly. 3 were vs great teams. 2 were vs Lufkin and 1 vs SV last year in the finals. The only average team that almost beat them was Sam Houston in 2002. SLC won 16-13 i believe?? You are right though, It happens to the best and sometimes it is the best thing that can happen for your team.

[relraiderfan]

Lobo, what exactly do you know about the Horn-Rockwall game, and why would Horn have to forfeit? Also, when will a definitive decision be made on this?

Don't forget about Tyler Lee just yet for the playoffs. Everything is wide open in this district, but if rockwall gets the win over horn, that sure does help them and hurt Lee.

[pack0808]

the discipline on this team is a joke........King absolutely lost control in this game....he has got to get in thier face.........

we were outcoached, outplayed, and lost our cool way to many times....the refs did not help either (not an excuse because they called a horrible, horrible game on BOTH sides.................

they expect to walk in and just walk out with a W....i have not criticized King all year but one comment he made in the coaches show made me want to puke.....He basically said that this off week came at the halfway point, 8-0, and another 8 to go........

HOW CAN U SAY THAT AFTER THE WAY YOUR TEAM PLAYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have not been this p.o.'ed in a long time but the boys played absolutely pathetic....if it was not for Carlin we lose, lose, lose.........

WOW wolf that is shocking he would say that?? I would be very down on Outlaw if he said that after a close win vs a non top 25 team. Outlaw is just the opposite. He will just say we stunk it up and the other team just played better and we got lucky. He does it all the time even in wins. The other day he said it looked like our team forgot how to play football in the 1st half. LOL He is severely blunt but that is why i love him. He is not trying to be rude he just says what is on his mind. That is Outlaw.

[Lobo9498]

When I said shut up, I meant about Longview's past. And about our fans proclaiming us champs. By no means do I mean shut up about your team. That would be unrealistic of me. I won't quit supporting my team, but I know this team tonight was NOT the same team.

And, I wasn't comparing SV and Rockwall, just making a statement. SLC had to win it late, but nobody mentions that. We win it late, and "it was expected" or something like that. Or "your not as good as advertised." We know that. How about a pat on the back for pulling it out? But, then I may be asking too much. I know some fans on here know Longview's team and respect them, just as I respect their teams. Others love to down us every chance they get....just like some of us, me included, down some teams at times. I respect SLC and what they've done, but I still think they CAN and will be beat. When? Who knows? Who will do it? I don't know. And, if any SLC fans say they won't be beat, they are being unrealistic. It will heppen. It may or may not be this year. But, it will. SLC is NOT unstoppable, just like the Panthers, Lobos, or any of the other teams.

[Kingwolf]

WOW wolf that is shocking he would say that?? I would be very down on Outlaw if he said that after a close win vs a non top 25 team. Outlaw is just the opposite. He will just say we stunk it up and the other team just played better and we got lucky. He does it all the time even in wins. The other day he said it looked like our team forgot how to play football in the 1st half. LOL He is severely blunt but that is why i love him. He is not trying to be rude he just says what is on his mind. That is Outlaw.

oh he said we played bad, and that there would be a lot to work on but it was unreal that he said that............

[Lobo9498]

Lobo, what exactly do you know about the Horn-Rockwall game, and why would Horn have to forfeit? Also, when will a definitive decision be made on this?

Don't forget about Tyler Lee just yet for the playoffs. Everything is wide open in this district, but if rockwall gets the win over horn, that sure does help them and hurt Lee.

They mentioned it on the radio tonight that Horn will probably have to forfeit their win against Rockwall for using an ineligible player. I don't know if it has happened yet, but if it is true, it probably will happen. I don't know where to find actual information on it just yet. This was from our radio guys tonight during the game.

[LoboFan07]

Lobo, what exactly do you know about the Horn-Rockwall game, and why would Horn have to forfeit? Also, when will a definitive decision be made on this?

Don't forget about Tyler Lee just yet for the playoffs. Everything is wide open in this district, but if rockwall gets the win over horn, that sure does help them and hurt Lee.

All I know is that they used an ineligible player. Thats what Lobo9498 told me at the game so maybe he can tell ya more on it.

[pack0808]

I agree anybody can be beat and i have said several times that this might be the best thing that could happen to the lobos. They did what great teams do and they won when they were not even close to their best.

Do you think Bleed busted a vein in his forehead at the stadium tonight?? ;) I bet he is going to have to sleep this one off.

[LoboFan07]

Do you think Bleed busted a vein in his forehead at the stadium tonight?? ;) I bet he is going to have to sleep this one off.

All of us did. You can ask Lobo9498...I was in tears when they went up and got that two point. Absolutely horrible...luckily we got the win.

[Kingwolf]

i probably busted a hemorrhoid i was clinching so bad.......... :D

ugly win, but can say this, the o did what it had to do, never punted........Rockwall controlled the clock.........

[pack0808]

LMAO Wolf!! Hey i can relate to yall believe me. When i leave a Lufkin game like that i feel like i have just been in a war. LOL

[SLCDRGN]

Lobo9498,

I will say it again......"CLASSLESS"

They fall behind a team that is far less superior & they resort to childlike antics!

You and the faithful better hope they don't fall behind in the playoffs or we will see more of the same. If they fall somewhat behind, I feel sure they will quit. What a sad situation. These coaches better get their attention and quickly. If not, a quality capable team may go up in smoke!!

[LPFAN]

Regardless of all the smack talk about Longview and the cockiness from some of the fans I know that I enjoyed listening to the game. Games like that are nerve wracking yet exciting especially if it is your team involved in the game. No the win was not pretty but to me those games are more exciting then blowouts. So don't worry about how it affects your rankings. A win is a win and as long as you keep winning, whether it is by 2 points or 40 points, you can still win a state title regardless of where you are ranked. I hope my team makes it but nothing is guaranteed.

[Kingwolf]

Lobo9498,

I will say it again......"CLASSLESS"

They fall behind a team that is far less superior & they resort to childlike antics!

You and the faithful better hope they don't fall behind in the playoffs or we will see more of the same. If they fall somewhat behind, I feel sure they will quit. What a sad situation. These coaches better get their attention and quickly. If not, a quality capable team may go up in smoke!!


ok man you have had your say, King will have this team together, you need to worry about your team....LV will be just fine, he took care of them last year in a similar situation and the results were fine.......

btw....they may run out of clock, but they will never quit.........

[c-lisle]

That was a sick display tonight. I wish I would have stayed home. Our players were acting like a bunch of little kids not geting their way.

[Lobo9498]

SLC, it went BOTH ways, but then again you weren't there to see it...even if you had been, you probably wouldn't take your green glasses off to look at it objectively. YES, it was stupid on both sides. But, think what you want.

[c-lisle]

A few things about this game:

1 I give Rockwall credit for being prepared and executing their game
2 Lview was without 4 starters and even some bakcups were injured
3 Rockwall had two weeks to prepare for this game. They thought they could win and almost pulled it off.

Lview is still the same team they were before this game, I just hope the coaches take drastic measures to correct the lack of discipline showed by some of the players. The bye week will do Lview some good and we will return almost 100%.

[PackAttack2005]

Spiking the ball anytime in high school should be a penalty, it is not allowed by the UIL or NCAA rules. Only in the NFL. Another point, I think high school officiating is not the calibur it used to be. You have many of these guys that are not qualified or have the ability to control a high school game and are only only in it for the extra pay check. The good officials either move up to college ball or quit because they don't want to put up with the harrassment they get from coaches, players and fans. If you find a good crew you need to need to use them as often as possible. That crew in Longview last night completely lost control and the UIL should review crews that let a game like that get out of hand.

[slcdragons]

[QUOTE=Lobo9498]

Most people don't talk about SLC having to get a last second field goal last year to win the title do they? They forget that part, just that they won it. That's all that matters.

But that was in a state title game, not a district game. When was the last state title game apperance for the Lobos anyway?

[c-lisle]

[QUOTE=Lobo9498]

Most people don't talk about SLC having to get a last second field goal last year to win the title do they? They forget that part, just that they won it. That's all that matters.

But that was in a state title game, not a district game. When was the last state title game apperance for the Lobos anyway?


1997

[SLCDRGN]

I think LV being on good old one eye last week went to their head. I know the faithful decided they were the state champions after beating a team that was down & out. I can't wait for the playoffs!! Please let SLC go Division 2 and have the opportunity teach the Lobo's how to win with dignity and class. Once SLC gets comfortably ahead, the swinging & mouthing will start and then LV will rollover and quit.

[c-lisle]

I think LV being on good old one eye last week went to their head. I know the faithful decided they were the state champions after beating a team that was down & out. I can't wait for the playoffs!! Please let SLC go Division 2 and have the opportunity teach the Lobo's how to win with dignity and class. Once SLC gets comfortably ahead, the swinging & mouthing will start and then LV will rollover and quit.

you have no clue what you are talking about and it has shown in every post you have made on the Longview threads. I don't if you are young or just.....

[LongviewLobo209]

I think some of the Lufkin fans are going by the tv game but i did not notice anything?? I was watching the stros a lot so i cannot say. Lufkin does their share of arrogant things on the field also. Yes LPFAN i agree there is a difference between just spiking the ball on a td compared to spiking it on somebody. That should be a flag every time.

Yes all great teams have close games Lobo but comparing SV and Rockwall is a little ludarcis?? In 3 years SLC has had 4 very close games and the rest were ugly. 3 were vs great teams. 2 were vs Lufkin and 1 vs SV last year in the finals. The only average team that almost beat them was Sam Houston in 2002. SLC won 16-13 i believe?? You are right though, It happens to the best and sometimes it is the best thing that can happen for your team.


There was another game too I think... I want to say Lubbock Monterey played them pretty close in either 03, or 02. I would look it up but I'm short on time. I believe the final score was something like 38-31 or something...

[SLCDRGN]

41,

What does young or old have to do with anything? I have a feeling the truth hurts!! I just hope the faithful is smart enough to stop the smack from last week. I believe that game against Rockwall should slow some of you guys a little. You my son are very beatable!! RW proved it last night!

[TrojanFan4Life]

[QUOTE=Lobo9498]

Most people don't talk about SLC having to get a last second field goal last year to win the title do they? They forget that part, just that they won it. That's all that matters.

But that was in a state title game, not a district game. When was the last state title game apperance for the Lobos anyway?


DISTRICT or STATE TITLE GAME - what does that matter - The Lobos can't help that have a hard district while SLC gets an easier district - tough district games and hard fought battles are what gives teams the knowledge that even when they aren't winning or it isn't coming as easy as they wanted or expected that they can still come up with the win. This can come in very handy in the playoffs.

[TrojanHorse03]

eh u know i used to trash southlake about their district. even more so the district they were in before which was like their personal playground. However looking at last year and how they came unscathed despite going through perhaps the toughest playoff run of all time, and the fact DR was able to beat a very good Irving Mac team last year that maybe district 5-5a is a lot better than people give credit for. And by the way every team this yr has had challenging moments in their season and they all have more to come, all that matter is responding with a w. Remember the team slc looked like in nondistrict, or that 14-0 deficit Trinity faced vs. Nimitz, or Lufkin vs. Nac, we all conveniently forget it because the players still had games left to play.

[c-lisle]

41,

What does young or old have to do with anything? I have a feeling the truth hurts!! I just hope the faithful is smart enough to stop the smack from last week. I believe that game against Rockwall should slow some of you guys a little. You my son are very beatable!! RW proved it last night!

Experience, wisdom. Saying you will stop our run game and doing are two totally different things...not an easy thing to do and your dragons may or may not find that out. Our Oline was without two starters and Rockwall didn't stop our run game. And you obviously have no clue about our pass game...we are very capable of passing. A handful were talking smack and the reasonable fans know we can lose and are not unbeatable.

[c-lisle]

eh u know i used to trash southlake about their district. even more so the district they were in before which was like their personal playground. However looking at last year and how they came unscathed despite going through perhaps the toughest playoff run of all time, and the fact DR was able to beat a very good Irving Mac team last year that maybe district 5-5a is a lot better than people give credit for. And by the way every team this yr has had challenging moments in their season and they all have more to come, all that matter is responding with a w. Remember the team slc looked like in nondistrict, or that 14-0 deficit Trinity faced vs. Nimitz, or Lufkin vs. Nac, we all conveniently forget it because the players still had games left to play.

good point

[bleedgreen]

I think LV being on good old one eye last week went to their head. I know the faithful decided they were the state champions after beating a team that was down & out. I can't wait for the playoffs!! Please let SLC go Division 2 and have the opportunity teach the Lobo's how to win with dignity and class. Once SLC gets comfortably ahead, the swinging & mouthing will start and then LV will rollover and quit.
lets you and i do some swinging, smart mouth!! someone needs to slap the cockiness right out of your SLC arrogant mouth!! you talk way too much, second stringer......super glue your lips shut and quit wasting oxygen!!! one thing we are NOT are quitters--you would get your teeth kicked out saying the word "quitters" around here..... on to another subject-------how many Lobo fans want to talk about state championships now??? are we STILL state title material??? hell no!!! that is why i have been saying to quit the dogging of SLC and all of this nonsense about state titles! i have also been saying for the PAST WEEK(several posts) that we better had be prepared for this Rockwall team coming in...you know what the sad thing is??? we were!! no excuses----i've been reading through some of the Lobo fans posts, and guys, some of you aren't telling the truth.....forget the refs----they truly sucked, but were terrible on BOTH sides....our team?? you that said we looked terrible--you're dead wrong!! fact is, this Rockwall team is a very good ball club with an excellent coaching staff(very smart)....they are solid on the run(that Mathis kid is unbelievable!), their QB is excellent(has a very accurate and strong arm, good vision downfield, good scrambler), the O-line did a great job protecting the QB and busting holes open for Mathis...the defense was prepared for Vondrell....they brought the heat on Carlin, pretty much controlled the running attack; they crumbled when it counted, though........i was very surprised by the Rockwall offense driving the ball right down the field on us with ease......i can't believe these guys have lost 2 district games??? they are really impressive....i thought we would make the adjustments and pull away the second half, but i was wrong....BOTH teams were throwing fists all night, the near bench clearing brawl--- it was really sickening to watch!!! i am flat out embarrassed by our actions on the field last night...totally unnecessary bull crap....thing is, this Rockwall team outplayed us, outcoached us, and flat out frustrated us into making ignorant decisions---King, as well as the refs, lost complete control of this nightmare last night.....no more excuses from anyone else, please?? if you were there, then you know i'm telling the truth....one more thing, i believe if you miss an extra point, that you should be shipped out into the middle of the Pacific, and left there with no bread or water!!!--that's ridiculous....see how important those "little" extra points are now???? hey, Longview needed this....2 things: put a pin into those blown up heads of our football team, AND FANS; the last minute drive to get the victory was executed with precision and poise, good job Carlin......i really hope that they drop us out of the top 50 so we can stop worrying about silly rankings that don't mean squat! hello Longview?? are you awake now?? the rest of the season should be totally different from here on out...glad this happened now, rather than later..............it's official---forget Tyler Lee, forget JT, don't forget Lufkin(lol), but Rockwall is our new rivalry, IMHO.......................and yes, pack0808, i did bust a gut last night...almost puked after the 2 point conversion made by Rockwall!!!

[SLCDRGN]

Good post Bleed!! You probably accept your teams actions on the field last night! Another season of underachieving.....Good luck......I am done with you!!

[SFAlobo]

LOL...some of you guys crack me up(Lobo fans too)...you have to realize that nothing that is said on the boards has any effect on the outcome of any game. So calm down. There is nothing wrong in have confidence or even blind faith in a team. Yeah, they had a bad game, big deal, they're kids. Their emotions were high, but at least they didn't give up. They won a tough game and now have a bye week, so its not that big of a deal right now. Everyone know SLC fans have had a couple of good years, so you're gonna have to put up with the crap no matter how cocky and good they think they are. Their day is coming. (Gonna get slammed here) But SLC will not win a championship this year. Sorry!!! all your blowout victories were to nobodys and you give up too many point to average teams. A team that can score as much a you will beat you, and there are plenty if you go D1 or D2. But i digress, the 'Bos will be fine, they have a week to think and get healthy. :)

[SLCDRGN]

SFA,

If a team gets in a shootout with SLC, they will lose. I don't believe there is a team in the state of Texas who truely wants to get in a shootout with them. I can't go as far as most of the LV fans last week did and say SLC is the pre-determined state champions but I think they have as good of a chance as anyone.

Note to LV coaches:

You better get your team under control. If not, you may see a potential good team disappear early in the playoffs. This would not go over very well with the homers! Most have already cleared the trophy case for the 2005-2006 5A Division II State Championship trophy.

[SFAlobo]

SFA,

If a team gets in a shootout with SLC, they will lose. I don't believe there is a team in the state of Texas who truely wants to get in a shootout with them. I can't go as far as most of the LV fans last week did and say SLC is the pre-determined state champions but I think they have as good of a chance as anyone.

Note to LV coaches:

You better get your team under control. If not, you may see a potential good team disappear early in the playoffs. This would not go over very well with the homers! Most have already cleared the trophy case for the 2005-2006 5A Division II State Championship trophy.


Forgive me, what i left out of my last post is that the other teams that score as much as SLC also have have pretty good defenses....it won't be a shootout. Defend the big play and a shootout is not possible...especially against a great running team or a balanced one who can control the clock.

[drgnbkr]

Forgive me, what i left out of my last post is that the other teams that score as much as SLC also have have pretty good defenses....it won't be a shootout. Defend the big play and a shootout is not possible...especially against a great running team or a balanced one who can control the clock.
After watching Longview..there is no doubt that Carroll has the far superior defense..period. What other lame opinions do you have to throw out

[SFAlobo]

After watching Longview..there is no doubt that Carroll has the far superior defense..period. What other lame opinions do you have to throw out


You can always tell when someone can't find anything to say...so they spout out the first thing that comes passed their tounge. Its called argument ad hominem...don't attack me attack the argument. Besides i was not talking about Longview exclusivley ET, NS, Westfield, Lufkin, and I think Katy too...all are giving up far less points SLC and scoring about just as much. And there are a few more that I might have omitted.

[SLCDRGN]

Longview saw SLC blast a good team in Denton Ryan 41-0. The claim is that SLC does not have a defense. Two shutouts this year including DR. In the past our D has been suspect at times. This year, you better be prepared for our defense or you will pay!!

[SFAlobo]

Longview saw SLC blast a good team in Denton Ryan 41-0. The claim is that SLC does not have a defense. Two shutouts this year including DR. In the past our D has been suspect at times. This year, you better be prepared for our defense or you will pay!!

Ill take a page from the SLC book about Longview/Lee last week on this one. Denton Ryan is no where near as good a team they were last year. And for them to be the second team in your district. :confused: Again you guys keep leaving out my entire point...i didnt say SLC would lose to just anybody, but they will have trouble against an offence that can keep up and a defense that is superior to theirs(and they are many).

[drgnbkr]

Ill take a page from the SLC book about Longview/Lee last week on this one. Denton Ryan is no where near as good a team they were last year. And for them to be the second team in your district. :confused: Again you guys keep leaving out my entire point...i didnt say SLC would lose to just anybody, but they will have trouble against an offence that can keep up and a defense that is superior to theirs(and they are many).

I guess you are expecting to throw out shots and get none in return? So Rockwall is the top notch competition Carroll is'nt playing? Get real...Longview has a quality team but some of the posters are weak...

[BigArab]

Wow! Just...WOW! I was away from a computer all night and my friend finally called me in the last seconds to tell me what had been going on. Completely unacceptable on the part of Longview. We kept saying that the coaches wouldn't let them get a big head, but it was clear that they did. No excuses. I don't have any, Lobo fans don't have any, and the players MOST CERTAINLY should not have any. They should thank their lucky stars that they were able to pull this one out. At least, we can chalk up a win, but they've got to get their stuff together in this bye week before they even want to think about facing NM or JT, let alone thinking they can coast along for the district championship.

No excuses whatsoever.

[drgnbkr]

I still think Longview had a quality win in that they had to perform perfectly at the end to get it done & they did. Whether or not it's a "wake-up" call or not..time will tell. They could have folded & they did'nt & that will serve them well. Carroll has had several games like that in the playoffs the past couple of years, and each one they pull out makes them a little better prepared for the next one.

[myround0]

A few things about this game:

1 I give Rockwall credit for being prepared and executing their game
2 Lview was without 4 starters and even some bakcups were injured
3 Rockwall had two weeks to prepare for this game. They thought they could win and almost pulled it off.

Lview is still the same team they were before this game, I just hope the coaches take drastic measures to correct the lack of discipline showed by some of the players. The bye week will do Lview some good and we will return almost 100%.

Which four starters were out, Will they be back for the North Mesquite Game,

[c-lisle]

After watching Longview..there is no doubt that Carroll has the far superior defense..period. What other lame opinions do you have to throw out

far superior....yeah right. Let's look at how many points each team has allowed....don't know the #s but I know Lview probably has given up less. And most of those points, with the exception of last night have come on the second teamers. Going off memory our D has allowed 92 points. I know isn't the tell all stat but give some basis to your obviously biased statement. Y'all are good but not far superior to Longview. Even at best.

[drgnbkr]

far superior....yeah right. Let's look at how many points each team has allowed....don't know the #s but I know Lview probably has given up less. And most of those points, with the exception of last night have come on the second teamers. Going off memory our D has allowed 92 points. I know isn't the tell all stat but give some basis to your obviously biased statement. Y'all are good but not far superior to Longview. Even at best.

If you'll take a look, I'm just responding to shots from another poster...I've seen Longviews D and you've probably seen Carroll's..they're both good. Maybe we'll eventually get to see them go head to head...

[c-lisle]

Which four starters were out, Will they be back for the North Mesquite Game,


Of course our two LBs also Booker and Jacobs our starting gaurds. I think all but one LB will be back after the off week. Johnson our LB will be back but I think when is still uncertain. He is much needed the backups are giving it their all but are just inexperienced and small. Also our FS was is banged up but just needs the next two weeks to heal.

Another thing about last nights game is we haven't had our off week yet and have traveled the majority of our games. A banged up Lview team needs this next two weeks to regroup.

[c-lisle]

If you'll take a look, I'm just responding to shots from another poster...I've seen Longviews D and you've probably seen Carroll's..they're both good. Maybe we'll eventually get to see them go head to head...

Oh ok, you're right we can talk about our teams all day and how they would match up but we won't know how it will go until we go head to head. I really think we are very different style teams and it would some down to game plan and execution. After last night I really don't even want to talk about it though....I just want to see the Lobos get focused and finish district strong. Then we can talk playoff matches.

[drgnbkr]

I guess since we don't actually get to play..all we can do is throw words at each other... :rolleyes:

[Favpack]

Ok Longview - blame me ;) --everytime I make an "out there" statement (stating I felt Longview was a tad better than SLC) I get slapped down. I'm sure Rockwall played well and are a gutsy team, but I don't think they are a top 5 team? This is why we all love HS football - the unexpected happens - and kids do the darndest things under pressure.

Congrats on the Lobos for toughing it out - this will make you a better team. And, we all know nobody sleepwalks to a district title anymore.

[bleedgreen]

Good post Bleed!! You probably accept your teams actions on the field last night! Another season of underachieving.....Good luck......I am done with you!!don't really care or give a crap what you are threw with, SLCDRGN....what are you, my wife or something?? you can be threw with me all that you want...i never knew that we were "on" to begin with??? do i accept my teams actions on the field last night?? if you would comprehend my post a little closer, you would see that i said that i was EMBARRASSED by our team's actions, or did you miss that part?? i'll take some blame for Longview, but Rockwall was just as guilty---don't see you riding their jocks any??? you were probably salivating at the mouth hoping we would lose weren't you?? sorry to disappoint you--didn't happen........DR, a really good team? is that what you said?? you play down our win against Lee, but mention how SLC beat a "good" DR team....again, i'm sorry to bust your bubble, but i've been around football for a pretty long time---both Lee and DR are no where near the "good" status this season--i've seen both play, won't ever change my mind....i will say this, and i don't care what anyone thinks about it: i will bet a million dollars, that after watching both Rockwall and DR, Rockwall would beat the crap out of them easily......no, Rockwall isn't a top 5 program like someone mentioned, but neither is DR...can't make that comparison as far as level of competiton is concerned............i'm threw with you now, honey---since i know now that we were "on" ;) ;) --LOL....................................

[VB Pack Fan]

Ok OK, after reading all these post and everone getting their panties in a wad, you all in this area are forgeting one thing. If Longview plays SLC ,it would be a semi -final game,the one just before state. Guys you should not even worry about them, there are other games in the play offs that you got to win.It,s one game at a time until you meet the "giant " if you get that far.Stop all the infighting ,it will give you a early out, just as it did Lufkin in 2003 against Garland.I would bet Dodge is not tihnging about Longview, Lufkin or anyone else but his next opponet. :)

[Lobo9498]

Another thing to add to what VB said.....Longview may not even go D1. I hope we go D2 so we could play Lufkin, possibly. THAT is the game I would love to see if it were to happen. But, right now we need to worry about winning District. North Mesquite is after our bye week. I can guarantee you the kids know what happened Friday. The coaches know it for sure. BUT, for all the bad things that might be said, you have got to hand it to the Lobos for having the heart to NOT give up. They did NOT stop playing even after Rockwall got the 2 point conversion. The fans didn't give up on either side. THAT to me is the bigger story. I could care LESS what ANY of the other teams' fans have to say about us. They were not there to witness the heart the team has. They are going off of their opinions and their ideas of what they THINK happened.

Yes, it was an ugly game, but it went both ways. BOTH teams left it all out on the field. I do hope the Rockwall player that got injured is ok, and I hope all of our bumps and bruises get healed over the bye week. The next on the menu is North Mesquite. After that, it's JT. But, JT is nowhere near my thoughts right now, except how Lee might play them this coming week. That should be an amazing game.

We can all sit here and debate until we turn purple in the face, but the fact of the matter is the games are won and lost ON THE FIELD....not in these forums. Whether you win by 1 point or 100, a win is a win. Yes, we played ugly, but we also played with heart and determination. But, nobody even bothered to mention that or compliment us on that, did they? This was a gut check, it was a test, and yet again we passed it. This game will only make our team stronger I think. If we fall in the polls, fine, I don't care. Polls mean squat. You can bad-mouth the Lobos all you want, but I know what I saw Friday night. EVERY fan in attendance saw it. Everyone else is just blowing smoke. They were not there to witness it and therefore have no say in the matter.

I always seem to write novels on my posts, but I support my Lobos win or lose. I am in no way a "bandwagon" fan. I try to be objective and I will tell it how it is. Friday was not our best by any stretch of the imagination, but we won it. That is ALL that matters. SLC needs to worry about Trinity, if that game does happen in Round 1. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of SLC's fans FEAR Trinity. They think their team is invincible, the the real SLC fans know they aren't. They know the ride could end at any time. I know not ALL SLC fans think that they are invincible,b ut I know a few will take what I said the wrong way. Oh well, keep living in your bubble.

Good Night And Good Luck

Lobo9498

[JoeC]

YOU KNOW, WE ALL GET CAUGHT UP IN THIS . . . and somehow forget that these are young men (children). On a more serious note . . . DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THE YOUNG MAN REMOVED ON THE STRETCHER IS . . . is he Ok?

[bleedgreen]

bad concussion, but i heard that he was fine.....................

[Redneckn]

I dont really have much to say about the game.. But I do have something to input. First, I have said from day one that when LV comes up against a good team that passes, they would be in trouble. They came up against a fair team that passes and they like to have lost it. But they didnt. congrats on the win.
Second. I think all the unsportsman calls kind of puts all that jaw flapping about ECA into perspective now. Seems to me as though when LV gets into a tight game, they cant control themselves. Then they come back afterwards and blame it on the opposing team.
Thats just my take on it. Because I have seen in this thread the blame game going against RW. I have seen in previous discussion it go against ECA.
Just makes me second guess what I've been hearing out of LV concerning the sportsmanship of ECA. I think the problem may lie right there within Longview.

[BigArab]

I dont really have much to say about the game.. But I do have something to input. First, I have said from day one that when LV comes up against a good team that passes, they would be in trouble. They came up against a fair team that passes and they like to have lost it. But they didnt. congrats on the win.
Second. I think all the unsportsman calls kind of puts all that jaw flapping about ECA into perspective now. Seems to me as though when LV gets into a tight game, they cant control themselves. Then they come back afterwards and blame it on the opposing team.
Thats just my take on it. Because I have seen in this thread the blame game going against RW. I have seen in previous discussion it go against ECA.
Just makes me second guess what I've been hearing out of LV concerning the sportsmanship of ECA. I think the problem may lie right there within Longview.

Believe whatever you want to believe, but I have been around Longview football long enough to know that that kind of behavior is not condoned, and you will not see anything like that from now on. But, you have to admit that when ANY team is losing or not performing the way they think they should, they throw tantrums. You cannot deny that. Evangel a few years ago was so used to winning that they didn't know what to do when they were losing, so they started throwing temper tantrums and drawing personal fouls.

[DragonWatcher]

I don't remember SLC throwing temper tandrums when we lost to Katy. That might have been because I was absolutely crushed at that moment but our players and coaches handled it with class. Saying every team throws a tandrum is a weak excuse. Lufkin has been very classy both times they lost to SLC, same can be said for Abilene.

[Redneckn]

Believe whatever you want to believe, but I have been around Longview football long enough to know that that kind of behavior is not condoned, and you will not see anything like that from now on. But, you have to admit that when ANY team is losing or not performing the way they think they should, they throw tantrums. You cannot deny that. Evangel a few years ago was so used to winning that they didn't know what to do when they were losing, so they started throwing temper tantrums and drawing personal fouls.


I think ECA was just reacting to the opposing teams. Retaliating, if you will.

I do want to make it clear that I dont think I've seen ECA play a game in recent memory where somebody didnt take a "cheap shot". When I say that though, I would like to add that I dont think I've seen a game where there wasnt a few from both sides of the field. I think it's talked about more when you're good. Or when you were really good and then started to slip a little.

Honestly, I think it's kinda pointless to worry about much of it. I only really said anything about it because I had to hear a lot of crap from some Longview people about how ECA is just so "terrible". It's just kind of funny when the shoe is on the other foot.

[BigArab]

I think ECA was just reacting to the opposing teams. Retaliating, if you will.

I do want to make it clear that I dont think I've seen ECA play a game in recent memory where somebody didnt take a "cheap shot". When I say that though, I would like to add that I dont think I've seen a game where there wasnt a few from both sides of the field. I think it's talked about more when you're good. Or when you were really good and then started to slip a little.

Honestly, I think it's kinda pointless to worry about much of it. I only really said anything about it because I had to hear a lot of crap from some Longview people about how ECA is just so "terrible". It's just kind of funny when the shoe is on the other foot.

I agree, I don't think ECA is that bad. Someone who's been in the trenches might think differently, but at this point, that game doesn't even matter anymore.

[rich_pack]

Hey SLC, I don't think if both of you and Longview stay in Div. 2 you will meet, because Lufkin will take out Longview. I do not see them running at will on Lufkin's fast defense. As for the Lufkin SLC game, who ever gets the ball last, does not matter, it will be a great game as usual. Both have great fans, and great coaches and players. Hope to see ya there.

[BigArab]

Hey SLC, I don't think if both of you and Longview stay in Div. 2 you will meet, because Lufkin will take out Longview. I do not see them running at will on Lufkin's fast defense. As for the Lufkin SLC game, who ever gets the ball last, does not matter, it will be a great game as usual. Both have great fans, and great coaches and players. Hope to see ya there.

Listen son, we're a good 6 weeks away from any kind of possible Longview-Lufkin matchup, ASSUMING THAT EITHER MAKES IT TO THAT GAME!!!!!!!!! Let's not count eggs before they hatch. Worry about the rest of your district game and any playoffs game leading up to a Longview-Lufkin rematch, and we'll worry about ours.

[SFAlobo]

Hey SLC, I don't think if both of you and Longview stay in Div. 2 you will meet, because Lufkin will take out Longview. I do not see them running at will on Lufkin's fast defense. As for the Lufkin SLC game, who ever gets the ball last, does not matter, it will be a great game as usual. Both have great fans, and great coaches and players. Hope to see ya there.

Giving the game to Lufkin I see...Dumbest post I've ever seen. Both the teams have to get there first...and this Lobo team isn't going to give LP the game like last year.

[LPFAN]

Hey SLC, I don't think if both of you and Longview stay in Div. 2 you will meet, because Lufkin will take out Longview. I do not see them running at will on Lufkin's fast defense. As for the Lufkin SLC game, who ever gets the ball last, does not matter, it will be a great game as usual. Both have great fans, and great coaches and players. Hope to see ya there.
Please don't start that mess again. Don't start talking smack about us beating Longview. Heck we might not make it that far. They might not make it that far. That is just as bad as some of the smack talk I saw coming from SOME of the Longview fans talking about blowing out Rockwall 40 something to nothing and putting their starters in at the 3rd qtr. Well it never happened. They got a hard fought win but it didn't happen like some thought it would. Those who boast the most sometimes have to eat their own words. That goes for LP fans too. Just take it one day at a time. Heck KF could suprise us tonight and beat us. I don't think they will but I know anything is possible. We are not UNSTOPPABLE and yes I think if we meet Longview this year that they COULD beat us but I am not saying they will. I thought they could beat us(just like I thought we could beat them) the last 9 times we played them but we came out ahead. My point is that when two great teams such as Longview and Lufkin meet, anything can happen and either team has a great chance to win it.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

They thinking about SLC? They better be worried about CUJO in week 10....LOL upset special.

[LPFAN]

Giving the game to Lufkin I see...Dumbest post I've ever seen. Both the teams have to get there first...and this Lobo team isn't going to give LP the game like last year.
I don't agree with his post either but I guess you just haven't seen some of the ridiculous posts from some of your Lobo fans after they beat Tyler Lee. And then I saw some boasting of blowing out Rockwall 40something to nothing and putting in your starters by the 3rd qtr. You got the win but you didn't blow by them like you thought you could do with everyone in the state. See what happens when you open your mouth and talk nonsense. Games are not given thay are taken. If you want to look at it like that then we could say Rockwall gave you the game because of the (turnover )interception they threw and Longview capitalized on. Did you forget that turnovers are part of the game. You can't accept it when it results in a loss for your team but you will take it when it results in a win for your team. Give last year up. That is old news man.

[c-lisle]

They thinking about SLC? They better be worried about CUJO in week 10....LOL upset special.


This will be a fun game. If JT comes in undefeated the Lobo stadium will see its biggest crowd in a long time. I think you will see a regenerated Lobo team that will back to their pre-Rockwall ways. We will get most of our starters back also. I won't predict a blowout, but Lview SHOULD win.

[SFAlobo]

I don't agree with his post either but I guess you just haven't seen some of the ridiculous posts from some of your Lobo fans after they beat Tyler Lee. And then I saw some boasting of blowing out Rockwall 40something to nothing and putting in your starters by the 3rd qtr. You got the win but you didn't blow by them like you thought you could do with everyone in the state. See what happens when you open your mouth and talk nonsense. Games are not given thay are taken. If you want to look at it like that then we could say Rockwall gave you the game because of the (turnover )interception they threw and Longview capitalized on. Did you forget that turnovers are part of the game. You can't accept it when it results in a loss for your team but you will take it when it results in a win for your team. Give last year up. That is old news man.


If you have read ANY post i've put up...you will realize that YOUR post does not apply to me....Since I am NOT God, I can't police what anyone else says about Longview. So get off my back...I DIDNT say it...What I was referring to is that THIS YEAR'S Lobo team is not going to beat themselves...I couldn't care less about last year, director your nonsense to who it is intened for next time. k :cool:

[LPFAN]

If you have read ANY post i've put up...you will realize that YOUR post does not apply to me....Since I am NOT God, I can't police what anyone else says about Longview. So get off my back...I DIDNT say it...What I was referring to is that THIS YEAR'S Lobo team is not going to beat themselves...I could careless about last year, director your nonsense to who it is intened for next time. k :cool:
Are you not able to comprehend my message? Please tell me that you are taking Reading and Comprehension there at SFA because I think you need it. Most of my message was not referring to you but letting you know about some other stupid comments that some of your fans made since you said that a Panther fan's comment was stupid. I never said you needed to police what they said so I don't know what you are tripping on. And don't change your tune, you said that Longview was not going to give the game to Lufkin like they did last year. Now you are saying that Longview is not going to beat themselves. So I guess the only way Longview can lose is if they beat themselves huh. The other team couldn't possibly have anything to do with it huh. I am so glad that football games and State Titles are not won in a football forum. :rolleyes:

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

This will be a fun game. If JT comes in undefeated the Lobo stadium will see its biggest crowd in a long time. I think you will see a regenerated Lobo team that will back to their pre-Rockwall ways. We will get most of our starters back also. I won't predict a blowout, but Lview SHOULD win.
I'll be there more than likely, there or here going to see Rider blowout Old High.

[SFAlobo]

I guess you can attack me if that makes you feel better :cool: ...Like I said I can't control what other people say, and they don't speak for everyone so why direct your post to me....get over yourself and, again, direct your nonsense to whom it is intented. By your last post you just went against everything you say in the previous one...what side are you gonna take. LOL!!!!

[LPFAN]

I guess you can attack me if that makes you feel better :cool: ...Like I said I can't control what other people say, and they don't speak for everyone so why direct your post to me....get over yourself and, again, direct your nonsense to whom it is intented. By your last post you just went against everything you say in the previous one...what side are you gonna take. LOL!!!!
Well I guess I will just take your side!!! It has to be the best side to be on huh. I can be LPFANLOBO from now on. Maybe if and when you all beat us this year I can jumb on the bandwagon and be a Lobo fan. What you don't realize is that I have been wanting Longview to do good for several years now except when they play Lufkin. The only thing I am tired of is excuses and that is all. I love seeing the East Texas teams dominate. Especially when it is a team from our old district.

[JoeC]

Well I guess I will just take your side!!! It has to be the best side to be on huh. I can be LPFANLOBO from now on. Maybe if and when you all beat us this year I can jumb on the bandwagon and be a Lobo fan. What you don't realize is that I have been wanting Longview to do good for several years now except when they play Lufkin. The only thing I am tired of is excuses and that is all. I love seeing the East Texas teams dominate. Especially when it is a team from our old district.

I agree, I am East Texas pure - a loyalist, no doubt about it and that includes Lufkin . . . except when you play Longview. In fact, everybody that I know has pulled for you guys each time you've played SLC; even though you guys had just beat us. East Texas - now and forever!!

[rich_pack]

Hey, I live in Dallas now for several years, but still go for all the East Texas teams. I even called my fantasy football team at work the Lufkin Panthers. Everyone up there knows very well who Lufkin is. But all I heard was smack today from some of the SLC fans"well, bandwagoners", and they were trashing Longview after the Rockwall game, so I hope Longview kicks some butt this next week.

[SFAlobo]

Well I guess I will just take your side!!! It has to be the best side to be on huh. I can be LPFANLOBO from now on. Maybe if and when you all beat us this year I can jumb on the bandwagon and be a Lobo fan. What you don't realize is that I have been wanting Longview to do good for several years now except when they play Lufkin. The only thing I am tired of is excuses and that is all. I love seeing the East Texas teams dominate. Especially when it is a team from our old district.

You can join if you want...i was referring to games being won and lost on the field not on forums...hence my oringinal post...Just because Im new here is NO indication that I am a bandwagon fan...I like Lufkin, and wish them the best....besides my dream Lobo championship would be View vs. Katy and da 'Bos cream them..I was at the '97 game...that one was really hard to sit through.

[myround0]

really as a Lobo fan..we must get more complex in our attack...the straight ahead bully run game shows our power, but it shows a limited attack as teams will start to stack eight men up in the box...we have to air the ball out some more, and use some complex schemes...the one pass to reese went to the end zone unchallanged, we should have given Rockwall a different look with the same play and scored again...on defense we have to blitz and disguise the area we are attacking from, and even fake a blitz...however, we have been working for over ten weeks so it is time for a break and to work out some kinks before we head into the playoffs...we have to remember, we have to work on new schemes, on both sides of the ball, every week, you can bet other teams are...

[c-lisle]

really as a Lobo fan..we must get more complex in our attack...the straight ahead bully run game shows our power, but it shows a limited attack as teams will start to stack eight men up in the box...we have to air the ball out some more, and use some complex schemes...the one pass to reese went to the end zone unchallanged, we should have given Rockwall a different look with the same play and scored again...on defense we have to blitz and disguise the area we are attacking from, and even fake a blitz...however, we have been working for over ten weeks so it is time for a break and to work out some kinks before we head into the playoffs...we have to remember, we have to work on new schemes, on both sides of the ball, every week, you can bet other teams are...


we are giving more attention to the pass amd I think once the playoffs start King will open it up. I think Carlin is very capable and we have the receivers too. We opened the game with a long pass to Reese it was a good looking pass...just a little long.

[JoeC]

Was he (Reese) wide open or what (?), man I cringed when Carlin over threw him . . . Keep in mind now, our receivers stand 6', 6' 3" and 6' 6" . . . for the most part I think coach King has sit on it (the passing game). . . Contrary to what many may think, Longview's passing game is very capable. So if a team should decide to put eight in the box (to stop our running game) as so many have suggested, they better match up or they could be in for a long night. . .

[BigArab]

Was he (Reese) wide open or what (?), man I cringed when Carlin over threw him . . . Keep in mind now, our receivers stand 6', 6' 3" and 6' 6" . . . for the most part I think coach King has sit on it (the passing game). . . Contrary to what many may think, Longview's passing game is very capable. So if a team should decide to put eight in the box (to stop our running game) as so many have suggested, they better match up or they could be in for a long night. . .

The numbers speak for themselves. Last season he threw 15 TDs to I think 4 Ints. So far this season, he's completed 50 percent (good, but not great) with 7 TDs and 2 INTs. King knows what Carlin is capable of and it shows with his TD to interception ratio. This team knows how to score. Period.

[c-lisle]

Vondrell is a threat also in the passing game also. Let's see....Mcgee, Robinson, Reese, and even George are viable WRs. And Ivory works perfect foe the short passes. We should never struggle throwing the ball. Carlin has a great arm but throwing over the middle kills us b/c of his size I think that is why he overthrew Reese on the first play of the game. He is the guy I want in the game when it is on the line but I don't see why Miles can't play every third series or something. Miles hasn't had a chance to throw with our first string WRs in the game. I say if we can be more productive passing the ball with miles then use him, why let him waste on the bench?

[bleedgreen]

Hey SLC, I don't think if both of you and Longview stay in Div. 2 you will meet, because Lufkin will take out Longview. I do not see them running at will on Lufkin's fast defense. As for the Lufkin SLC game, who ever gets the ball last, does not matter, it will be a great game as usual. Both have great fans, and great coaches and players. Hope to see ya there.well, here we again---way to go Rich Pack....just seems like some people can't let it go.....do you like salt or sugar on your crow?? you may just be eating that last post, brother!!

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

CUJO is in the playoffs. Just wanted to throw that out there for someones interest. :eek:

[bleedgreen]

I dont really have much to say about the game.. But I do have something to input. First, I have said from day one that when LV comes up against a good team that passes, they would be in trouble. They came up against a fair team that passes and they like to have lost it. But they didnt. congrats on the win.
Second. I think all the unsportsman calls kind of puts all that jaw flapping about ECA into perspective now. Seems to me as though when LV gets into a tight game, they cant control themselves. Then they come back afterwards and blame it on the opposing team.
Thats just my take on it. Because I have seen in this thread the blame game going against RW. I have seen in previous discussion it go against ECA.
Just makes me second guess what I've been hearing out of LV concerning the sportsmanship of ECA. I think the problem may lie right there within Longview.come now, my Redneckin friend----are you serious?? now, if i can admit that we were "a little out of line" friday night, surely, you can admit to ECA's dirty play....as much as they want everyone to think that they are angels from a Christian school, we know better, don't we....i was at every ECA/Longview game...i know what i saw in each game....only this year, they didn't do their "usual" dance because they knew that their a$$es would be handed to them--no frustration to let out.....again, i will say that i do not condone the actions of our players friday night, nor do i condone Rockwall's either...yes, Longview was very frustrated by Rockwall's performance--those guys didn't miss a beat all night, looked really good...lost our composure a few times, just as you guys did when we were beating yall---you guys weren't used to it...it's a normal reaction, IMHO....not the right actions to take by any means, but we are all human, right???

[c-lisle]

come now, my Redneckin friend----are you serious?? now, if i can admit that we were "a little out of line" friday night, surely, you can admit to ECA's dirty play....as much as they want everyone to think that they are angels from a Christian school, we know better, don't we....i was at every ECA/Longview game...i know what i saw in each game....only this year, they didn't do their "usual" dance because they knew that their a$$es would be handed to them--no frustration to let out.....again, i will say that i do not condone the actions of our players friday night, nor do i condone Rockwall's either...yes, Longview was very frustrated by Rockwall's performance--those guys didn't miss a beat all night, looked really good...lost our composure a few times, just as you guys did when we were beating yall---you guys weren't used to it...it's a normal reaction, IMHO....not the right actions to take by any means, but we are all human, right???


Redneckn also said, "that any good passing team would beat Longview." You can't judge the outcome of every game based on this ONE with Rockwall. Our secondary can cover much better than that and our D can play much better than they did. Sure teams like SLC and LP will get their pass yards...but they will against anyone they play. I think when it is crunch time in the playoffs you will see a determined and capable Lobo team that will compete with anyone.

[bleedgreen]

true----forget waiting until playoff time...we had better come out a different team against NM next friday...if this game wasn't a motivator for us, then we can believe what everyone else is saying about us(that we will choke come playoff time because we can't win the big games)---i'm tired of hearing that crap!!! King better get back control of that team--he damn sure didn't have control friday night.......if i were coach, there would be some starters sitting this next one out....not because of disciplinary reasons, because they would be sooooooooo tired from running wind sprints that they wouldn't have the oxygen to even get on the field!!!.........PS--on another note, i like the quote at the end of your posts, brother....might not agree with you sometimes, but i definitely agree with the quote...pretty classy.....................