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outtacontrol
10-14-2005, 10:33 PM
42-0 game over trinity
go_hawgs_04
10-14-2005, 11:31 PM
yeah pretty bad shutout. hardly any bell fans showed up??? guess they knew it was coming so they saved there money :D
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-14-2005, 11:52 PM
I have never in my life seen a team show as much disrespect as the L.D. Bell Blue Bunnies did tonight. That includes all pro, college, and high school games. At the beginning of the game, the football team ran out of their football helmet during the Trinity alma mater. Then when they ran out on the field at the beginning of the second half, they showed disrespect again.
IN YOUR FACE BELL!!!!
TRINITY 42 - BELL 0
After the Blue Bunnies disrespected our alma mater, everyone in the stands was hoping and praying the coach would leave in the 1st strings and just cram the ball down Bell's throat.
First thing Monday morning I'm visiting the HEB ISD administrators and I'm not leaving there until I get satisfaction that the Bell football players have to accept responsibility for what they did.
For every action, there's a reaction and consequence.
Now the football players must accept the consequence of what they did.
southlake thug
10-14-2005, 11:55 PM
I actually made my way out there tonight. I didnt realize that Bell was that bad. And I also did not realize how weak the ET passing game was. I will agree that the Trojans are one of the best in the state, but I was reassured tonight that this years SLC team could win that matchup. It will be one heak of a game though.
How many of the O-Line have DI offers. They were absolutly massive. And of course "the haka" was pretty fun to watch.
southlake thug
10-14-2005, 11:55 PM
Yeah I did notice that also. It was completly out of line by Bell.
TrojanHorse03
10-15-2005, 12:10 AM
Its good u came out thug, however trust me Trinity's passing game is anything but weak. This was THE ONLY off game Trevor's had this year. He's completing WELL over 60% passing and Trinity leads the area in yards per completion by a LARGE margin.
TrueBlue
10-15-2005, 12:14 AM
I guess it was OK when the entire Trinity fan section at Pennington booed during the playing of the Bell alma mater... that was done on purpose -- the Bell players accidentally came out of the tunnel late (they were supposed to come out after the Bell alma mater finished) -- while the Trinity song was playing...
go_hawgs_04
10-15-2005, 12:15 AM
i didnt get there till 7:30 and had missed the haka...i wanted to see that. Trinitys passing game isnt anything special like slc but they didnt play as good as they usually do.
GTown02
10-15-2005, 12:31 AM
When Vittatoe is hitting, (most games), its amazing to watch... he has a cannon and he is very accurate...
southlake thug
10-15-2005, 12:32 AM
Yeah it was weird to see overthrown balls and dropped passes on a regular basis. But what did you guys think about that 1 handed Int. by Bell in the 1st QT. That was absoultly ridiculous.
Also I think it was #40 (TE?) For ET. Is he going to be playing anywhere for college. I saw him lined up at TE a couple of times and it seems like he would be the ideal size and he seemed pretty athletic. I just had't heard anything about him yet. And Nance is deff. a pure athlete. That was the first time I have ever in my life seen a player go un-touched on a 2-point conversion right up the middle.
GTown02
10-15-2005, 12:37 AM
Yeah it was weird to see overthrown balls and dropped passes on a regular basis. But what did you guys think about that 1 handed Int. by Bell in the 1st QT. That was absoultly ridiculous.
Also I think it was #40 (TE?) For ET. Is he going to be playing anywhere for college. I saw him lined up at TE a couple of times and it seems like he would be the ideal size and he seemed pretty athletic. I just had't heard anything about him yet. And Nance is deff. a pure athlete. That was the first time I have ever in my life seen a player go un-touched on a 2-point conversion right up the middle.#40 is the TE Jordan Scoggins... good hands and could play D1... I dont know if he has any offers though.
southlake thug
10-15-2005, 12:41 AM
Alright, thanks. You guys have a pretty good team, the only thing that I noticed was that the D-Line was pretty slow and the screen pass was open all game. I don't know if it was just me or not. If an oppenent could get the screen pass working that could be the main weakness. Of course I have not seen enough of the team, and obviously Bell was not a good opponent to judge against. Overall real good team this year, hopefully we will meet up in the playoffs. I think the #20 rank in the country may be a little generous though. I don't know if I would rate them that high.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-15-2005, 01:04 AM
I guess it was OK when the entire Trinity fan section at Pennington booed during the playing of the Bell alma mater... that was done on purpose -- the Bell players accidentally came out of the tunnel late (they were supposed to come out after the Bell alma mater finished) -- while the Trinity song was playing...
The Bell fans started it all by blowing their airhorns during the Haka. Someone should have reminded Bell's football players that they weren't the home team so they shouldn't have run out of the the helmet after their alma mater - IF THAT WAS THE CASE. I sit in the middle of the hard-core fans and we didn't see it that way.
gritty52
10-15-2005, 01:34 AM
Scoggins is just a Jr. He was 6-5A soph. of the year last year. :D
CoppellCowboy57
10-15-2005, 04:35 AM
Should be pretty interesting Next week for Bell/Coppell...
I think Coppell has a slight edge over Bell, Now that they are clicking on all 8 cylinders
stinger
10-15-2005, 07:16 AM
Thug, as you was said earlier, passing last night was as bad as I have ever seen from Vittato. He usually has a rocket arm and is very accurate. The runninggame was up to par. Their defense is not as slow as you think, much of their success comes because they cause the quarterback to adjust and then have to pursue. Trinity overcommitted on many plays, but players were in position to take care of business. They are definitely not overranked nationally. They have played the second and third teamers many many times more than SLC. Didn't the 1st string nearly play all of the Denton game, long after it was decided? If Trinity played the starters the whole game, numbers would be out of control. As I have said many times before, Trinity always tries to prepare players of the future. This year is the result of past years.
Oh yes...Fossil Ridge lost to Grapevine, hmmmm SLC may be D1 now. Do you smell a super bowl of high school football?
TrueBlue
10-15-2005, 08:06 AM
SL Thug -- I wouldn't get my hopes up -- last night may have been Vittatoes worst passing night in two years -- he still leads the state with a sick qb rating of over 200 -- and Trinity will not beat slc with the pass -- but they will beat slc with the run 1st and pass second -- there is a sportwriter from Grand Prairie that has covered Texas high school football for over 30 years that says this years Trinity team is the best he has seen ever -- period -- I tend to agree...
baylordad
10-15-2005, 08:27 AM
I guess it was OK when the entire Trinity fan section at Pennington booed during the playing of the Bell alma mater... that was done on purpose -- the Bell players accidentally came out of the tunnel late (they were supposed to come out after the Bell alma mater finished) -- while the Trinity song was playing...
You are full of CRAP!! The whole team, fans, and staff for having them do that are jerks. No class at all. They can't win so they show their true colors as having no class at all!!
stinger
10-15-2005, 08:28 AM
Good post trueblue. I have read the same articles/ SLC has not met the "in your face" style Trinity brings. Even though Vittato was off, his receivers were wide open due to the defense playing the action and him being able to throw with plenty of time. The Trinity defense always keeps the offense off guard with pressure, another thing SLC has not experience. They outwiegh SLC by enough to make a difference. If the QB cannot set up, then he cannot comfortably find his receivers. I see a close game, with Trinity physically wearing down SLC and taking over in the end. It may be different, but SLC has nothings.t faced a team even close to being as physical as Trinity, and that intimidation can change
Sakatha
10-15-2005, 08:37 AM
Hey, fellow Dragons...
Careful with those words, folks. If someone posted the same kind of stuff towards Longview then I undestand why they were trash talking all week.
If we happen to meet up w/ET it'll be great. They've talked no trash towards us, and deserve the same in return.
:)
~DnM
p.s. I watched Trevor in 7 on 7, and yes the guy has a great arm. :)
TrojanFan4Life
10-15-2005, 08:38 AM
I guess it was OK when the entire Trinity fan section at Pennington booed during the playing of the Bell alma mater... that was done on purpose -- the Bell players accidentally came out of the tunnel late (they were supposed to come out after the Bell alma mater finished) -- while the Trinity song was playing...
BOLOGNA!!!!!!!!!!! It is never an accident - thought your coach had more class than that - we sat right in the middle of the season tickets - which I also have - didn't hear the "ENTIRE" section or any booing - you must have your ears cleaned out.
Baylordad - you won't be the only one at the ad bldg on Monday - Trinity fans are on their way in droves.
In the past bell has done many other tasteless things but this tops the list!
da wiz
10-15-2005, 08:53 AM
while i admit that wasnt the best night vittatoe has had in a while,
he was 5 of 11, for 137 yds and 1 int, but trinity's passing game is
anything but weak, after 7 games vittatoe is 33 of 55 with 2 ints,
9 tds , and 929 yards passing, by my math, thats 71 yards from
one thousand, throwing only 55 passes, thats not weak, i know
you are spoiled by 350 yd passing nights on 30 passes, truth be told
the trinity passing attack, is more efficient than the current national
champs from southlake,, peace,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
baylordad
10-15-2005, 09:23 AM
Nothing on this thread really matters. If we (Trinity) have the opportunity to play SLC, it will be settled on the field. As someone stated earlier, it is sad that one has to go out that early if we meet, but so be it if that is the way the cards fall. Both teams are among the best in the state and it will be a great challange for both. SLC is our current one of our State Champions and deserves the respect of that posisition! I give a rats butt about a National Title. I have more respect for our State Champions in all classes. Until they are beaten, the bullseye is on their backs which is deserving and I am sure the SLC fans don't mind that one bit. Actually they should be used to it. Good luck to all and I hope everyone stays healthy.
Sakatha
10-15-2005, 09:30 AM
Well said, BaylorDad.
Now go beat the hell outta Nebraska today!!
~DnM
southlake thug
10-15-2005, 10:24 AM
while i admit that wasnt the best night vittatoe has had in a while,
he was 5 of 11, for 137 yds and 1 int, but trinity's passing game is
anything but weak, after 7 games vittatoe is 33 of 55 with 2 ints,
9 tds , and 929 yards passing, by my math, thats 71 yards from
one thousand, throwing only 55 passes, thats not weak, i know
you are spoiled by 350 yd passing nights on 30 passes, truth be told
the trinity passing attack, is more efficient than the current national
champs from southlake,, peace,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You obviously know nothing about football if you just said that. Saying that the Trinity passing game is more efficient is just like say that the SLC run game is more effiecient then ET. I know that you may like to find flaws in SLC, but at least be intelligent.
TrojanHorse03
10-15-2005, 11:16 AM
I actually totally agree with whiz hes not saying et's offense is more productive but the stats bare out that we get much more bang for are buck.
TrojanHorse03
10-15-2005, 11:17 AM
in the passing game
southlake thug
10-15-2005, 11:26 AM
Maybe. It would be hard for me to comment becasue I have only seen 1 game against a ridiculously lousy Bell team. I guess that same thing could be said for the SLC running game then. They are not known for the running game, but they have been very productive over the last couple of weeks. Newton was averaging 12 ypc before this week.
TrueBlue
10-15-2005, 11:27 AM
Vittaotoe's qb rating exceeds Mceloroy's -- to the extent that qb rating is a measure of passing efficiency (which is the standard the NFL uses), ET statistically has a more efficient pass game -- and while this really is not an issue, imo, Vittatoe was not intercepted last night -- the db never had control --
TrojanHorse03
10-15-2005, 11:33 AM
speaking of slc's running game that's certainly an underated aspect of their game. DR was completely playing that as opposed to the pass, must be because this is definitely the best they've been on the ground
southlake thug
10-15-2005, 11:37 AM
Yeah Deffinetly. We are a little thin behind Newton, but as long as he stays healthy we should be alright. Riley Dodge can deff. run and he is also a threat with his arms.
If this game between SLC and ET actually happens, I think that coaching could be the deciding factor. Both teams are going to have to completly change there philosphy and game plan for one another. It would deff. be an intersting game and I am excited for the possibility of it.
blue58
10-15-2005, 12:47 PM
Calling In to defend my team.
We had absolutely NO idea that the Trinity Alma Mater was going on. We had been sitting in the tunnel for about 3or4 mins by this time...and you literally cant hear a single thing that is going on there, there was a whole lot of yelling going on, and then we broke it out and ran out of the tunnel. Thinking we were already late. Believe me we have more class than that, so please dont try and harp on my school..my coach, or my teammates, thats out of hand. Had we KNOWN that the alma mater was going on we wouldnt have come out at the time we did.
In fact, I had no idea we had done that until far after the game, when our cheerleaders and wranglers told us.
Your student sections were the ones booing, not the season ticket holders. We were also spit on and yelled at on the way into the locker room by some of your students.
On a lighter note, You guys had a great game, we couldnt stop Laderrick or Dimitri all night long. Our offense never quite got it under control, we had a game that was probably expected of us with a sophmore in at quaterback.
Good Luck until we meet again.
ths76021
10-15-2005, 02:04 PM
I find it hard to believe with Bell being in their tunnel looking straight down toward the score board, you couldn't see the entire home side standing during the alma mater. If what you want us to believe is true, then that shows how bad Bell's timing really is which was evident all night on both sides of the ball. Maybe next year, Bell will come out with class, because no matter what you want to say, it wasn't shown last night.
Your offense did play as expected whether a sophomore was QB last night or if Mauro had played in the game. Mauro's anemic numbers in a spread offense the entire year shows he would not faired any better. Surely, BHS06 didn't expect that your offense could put up 41 pts against Trinity as he predicted. Heck, outside of the Bells first game, the most pts Bell has scored is 18. Thats pretty sad with a spread offense. Heck Trinity hardly throws the ball and are able to put up alot better passing numbers.
Bells defense didn't have a chance against Trinity's offense. Bell is lucky Vittatoe wasn't as sharp as he usually is, otherwise, the beating would have been alot worse. By far, Vittatoes worse game as far as acuracy possibly in two years. Bell's secondary was no where near Trinity's receiving core last night and had Vittatoe been on target, the score would have been alot worse. Nance and Handy are such underrated runners. Everyone wants to say, their success is only because of the huge offensive line Trinity has. However, as Bell found out last night, look how many tackles they are able to break, yac (yards after contact) is huge.
Good Luck the rest of the year. Hopefully, Bell will show their remaining opponents some respect which sorely lacked last night.
blue58
10-15-2005, 04:09 PM
I still really find it sad that the Trinity fans believe that we had the intent to interrupt their alma mater. Really, and to blame our coach is even lower, he's not even the tunnel with us. They go to the sidelines after strech.
But, I do appreciate THS giving our team at least a little bit of slack.
AND
I apologize on the behalf of my team.
The offense has been tough to develop. It's not a lack of effort, it's just an enormous learning curve, trying to move from a pound the ball down your throat running team to a spread. Joe hasnt fully developed his ability to hit his reads, I'd like to call it a work in progress.
ths76021
10-15-2005, 04:32 PM
Blue58,
I have to tip my hat to you as being respectful enough to stand up for your team and apologize for what happened last night. I wish you the best in the future.
As far as your statement of Joe being a work in progress, I don't know how to comment on that. With as much preseason hype that surrounded him as being such an "all american" candidate type player, his anemic numbers and inability to read in a spread offense makes one wonder how he got such accolades. Yes, he didn't play against Trinity, however, watching his stats on the year make it evident he isn't the quality qb as hyped.
Blue, WHERE IS BHS06????? He is quick to post normally and generally has alot to say about everything. It just goes to show that especially BHS06 needs to learn the lesson of "letting your play on the field do your talking".
Good luck again the remainder of the season.
bell grad dad
10-15-2005, 07:38 PM
I can tell you that the Bell team coming out was an accident...............I also sat on the Trinity side next to the student section at the East end and heard the boo's during Bell's Alma mater and it WAS NOT only students, the adults in this area were just as classless. I also watched the Trinity kids spit and taunt the Bell players going in at halftime. Trinity has a very very good team this year and as I have been blasted in earlier posts for not supporting Bell don't jump down my throat when I say that I sat around some of the most classless fans that I have ever been around. I don't care if you hate Bell High School or any other school that you are playing it is totally classless to boo during a school song and for the earlier poster that is going to the admin bldg on Monday to ***** and complain........GOOD LUCK they could care less about what takes place.
Good luck Trinity, you will represent our school district very well and some of are proud to watch you, However there are classless people every where you go and it matters not if you are winning or losing.
TrueBlue
10-15-2005, 09:29 PM
I came on here as a Bell fan giving props to the Trinity qb, even though he really didin't have a very good game -- obviously with Bell probably out of the playoff picture, I know that I will be supporting and pulling for Trinity --
I really don't get the bashing of the Bell qb -- my son is good friends with him and I know that he not only has accepted a scholarship offer from a rising Big 10 program at Northwestern University as the only qb they will take from this class nationwide -- who also beat Purdue this week and ranked Wisconsin last week -- but that the UT offensive coordinator is still writing him personally and so are many other major programs --
So, more qualified judges of talent than you or I apparently judge Mauro as being special --
Sherrod Harris at Arlington Bowie has very deceivingly "anemic" statistics -- while being committed to play at UT -- the #2 team in the nation -- as qb -- next year --
It takes alot for a team that has run the triple option for 5 years to all of the sudden make a dramatic switch to a spread offense -- Bell's offensive line are all first year starters -- Bell's receivers are all learning a new system -- with 5 of them at any one time responsible for running routes that they have never run before this year -- and then catching the ball -- which is also a new thing for Bell --
In my opinion, to say that the offense is not working because the qb is missing reads is a vast over simplification of things -- there are alot of factors --
I remember BHS06 posting that in the NM and FM games there were a total of something like 40 busted routes and dropped passes...
I have heard that there is apparently quite a bit of animosity toward Mauro from some of the Trinity players -- not sure why -- maybe they feel that he is getting more attention than Vittatoe, who is a very talented hs qb -- although not sure how he projects on the next level -- I have not heard alot about where Vittatoe is being recruited, etc -- and certainly wish him the best...
DragonFan
10-15-2005, 10:26 PM
The best highlights from this game had to be the performance of the Bell band! They as precise as watching SLC recievers running their routs :D
The Bell band was awsume! Like watching a broadway musical! However the most fun was watching the Troanns Father/Daughter dance! I have never had so much fun sitting with the Trinity fans and watching the dads really ham it up and having so much fun with their daughters :)
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-16-2005, 01:28 AM
The best highlights from this game had to be the performance of the Bell band! They as precise as watching SLC recievers running their routs :D
The Bell band was awsume! Like watching a broadway musical! However the most fun was watching the Troanns Father/Daughter dance! I have never had so much fun sitting with the Trinity fans and watching the dads really ham it up and having so much fun with their daughters :)
As someone predicted earlier in a posting, Trinity won the football game and Bell won halftime.
NTxTiger
10-16-2005, 02:48 PM
Trojan for Life and Baylor Dad,
My daughter goes to Bell and I was sitting on Trinity's side. I was embarrassed by the players running on the field and told the fans around me so. I believe Coach Olivo has more class than that, so the players should get a good lecture this week about the things that should always be shown respect (school songs, national anthem, prayers, etc.). I guess they need to post a coach next to the helmet if the kids can't figure out when to go.
I hope the problem was the kids didn't hear the band, although they should have heard the announcer. I'd bench a few captains if the coaches find they did it on purpose.
BigFoot
10-16-2005, 03:52 PM
I actually made my way out there tonight. I didnt realize that Bell was that bad. And I also did not realize how weak the ET passing game was. I will agree that the Trojans are one of the best in the state, but I was reassured tonight that this years SLC team could win that matchup. It will be one heak of a game though.
How many of the O-Line have DI offers. They were absolutly massive. And of course "the haka" was pretty fun to watch.
I told you on Friday that this game is always more competitive not matter who has the better team. It is a pride thing in HEB and I can tell you that
Trevor was off that night perhaps overly excited. But he is much better than what you saw. Also, two of our defensive starters did not play.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-16-2005, 10:27 PM
Blue58,
Blue, WHERE IS BHS06????? He is quick to post normally and generally has alot to say about everything. It just goes to show that especially BHS06 needs to learn the lesson of "letting your play on the field do your talking".
I think he went to another website as a new poster with the tag of blueraider06.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-17-2005, 11:41 AM
I can tell you that the Bell team coming out was an accident...............I also sat on the Trinity side next to the student section at the East end and heard the boo's during Bell's Alma mater and it WAS NOT only students, the adults in this area were just as classless. I also watched the Trinity kids spit and taunt the Bell players going in at halftime. Trinity has a very very good team this year and as I have been blasted in earlier posts for not supporting Bell don't jump down my throat when I say that I sat around some of the most classless fans that I have ever been around. I don't care if you hate Bell High School or any other school that you are playing it is totally classless to boo during a school song and for the earlier poster that is going to the admin bldg on Monday to ***** and complain........GOOD LUCK they could care less about what takes place.
Good luck Trinity, you will represent our school district very well and some of are proud to watch you, However there are classless people every where you go and it matters not if you are winning or losing.
ATTN: TRINITY FANS
The HEB-ISD administration does care!! Just as I said I would do, I was at the Athletic Director's Office first thing this morning to voice my feelings but I couldn't talk to the head athletic director because she was already at Bell HS to find out what happened. I talked to the assistant athletic director, Mike Fuller, and their view is that "The Incident" was inexcusable - whether by accident or malicious intent (his words, not mine.) Everyone realizes that this was an embarassment on the whole school district and could effect the way other schools look at Bell in the future. I left satisfied that the school officials were handling this properly.
To the football team - go play ball and have fun - we've got you covered!
TrueBlue
10-17-2005, 12:24 PM
What a waste of time -- several players have already posted that it was not intnetional -- what was intnetional was:
1. Trinity side booing during the Bell alma mater
2. Trinity band with the words "Beat Bell" inscribed in their drums
3. Trinity student council members that come out to the field at the beginning of the game to meet the Bell student council for a show of "good sportsmanship" -- and have the letters to spell "Beat Bell" on the backs of their shirts -- which were in full view of the Bell side after the students came out, shook hands with the Bell students and turned to return to the Trinity sideline --
4. Bell players spit on returning to their lockers at half time by Trinity student section...
If your interest is truly in expressing your sincere concerns about the lack of good spertsmanship demonstated on Friday night with the HEB admins and not just some hypocritical partisan bs -- then maybe you might want include the above concerns in your meetings with the HEBISD --
BigFoot
10-17-2005, 12:29 PM
What a waste of time -- several players have already posted that it was not intnetional -- what was intnetional was:
1. Trinity side booing during the Bell alma mater
2. Trinity band with the words "Beat Bell" inscribed in their drums
3. Trinity student council members that come out to the field at the beginning of the game to meet the Bell student council for a show of "good sportsmanship" -- and have the letters to spell "Beat Bell" on the backs of their shirts -- which were in full view of the Bell side after the students came out, shook hands with the Bell students and turned to return to the Trinity sideline --
4. Bell players spit on returning to their lockers at half time by Trinity student section...
If your interest is truly in expressing your sincere concerns about the lack of good spertsmanship demonstated on Friday night with the HEB admins and not just some hypocritical partisan bs -- then maybe you might want include the above concerns in your meetings with the HEBISD --
I beg to differ with you ...no such booing of your alma mater took place. I was there ...DIDN"T HAPPEN. The beat bell on shirts and drums has happened every year forever on both sides. I have been around longer than you. I could tell you things about Bell for years and years. But what the team did running in on the Trinity alma mater and the band playing on top of it was the worst of them all. The coach should have been in control of that situation and it should not have happened. NEVER NEVER in a million years. And just so you are clear on one thing ...I would think the same if it happened the other way and would call the principal and the ad. building.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. Bell was wrong.
Sloth
10-17-2005, 12:48 PM
All this concern over an alma mater. Who gives a flying crap. I would say 90% of students don't even know the words. That crap is way over blown. And the only ones who care Are the people who have their priorities way to screwed up and want to keep living their lives in highschool like that really matters. They are probably band parents anyway. It is a game just enjoy it for what it is and don't take that stuff to serious. There are alot more important things to spend energy on than this.
stinger
10-17-2005, 12:50 PM
Trueblue...you might want to get a feel for what happens during a rivalry. Sgirts, posters, parades, etc are all acceptable with the limits of good taste. The t-shirts have been worn for many many years, posters are at ALL football games. The lettering on the drums was in good taste, and even humorous. They did not sway the game. I taught at BOTH schools for many years, and I will not speak about where the worst actions came from, but it happens, and should be dealt with. Was I confused, or did Bell give Trinity council members a broken Trojan horse? What did this resemble? Get real...rivalries are good for the sport, but there is a limit no matter what happens or who does it. Yes, the apology was made and accepted. I was at the game and witnessed it all. After the game, the bell band did an instrument warm-up while Trinity was playing their school song. Is a warm-up necessary AFTER the game? hmmmmm.... Leave it alone and enjoy the fact that it is a rivalry and things are acceptable...to a degree. This time it was too much.
TrojanFan4Life
10-17-2005, 02:11 PM
All this concern over an alma mater. Who gives a flying crap. I would say 90% of students don't even know the words. That crap is way over blown. And the only ones who care Are the people who have their priorities way to screwed up and want to keep living their lives in highschool like that really matters. They are probably band parents anyway. It is a game just enjoy it for what it is and don't take that stuff to serious. There are alot more important things to spend energy on than this.
Wow - what a sad statement - you obviously have no school pride - it is not people wanting to keep living their lives in HS - and you are wrong about BHS and THS students not knowing the fight song or the alma mater - heck both of my children 3 & 7 know the words or at least part of them - this discussion wasn't about anything but respect for the other school and how it makes our district and schools look in the eyes of others. Traditions, pride, respect and sportsmanship are not "crap" - they are life long character traits that should be honored!
BigFoot
10-17-2005, 02:33 PM
I agree with the fact that this is a football game. But that is the only point I will agree with you on Sloth. Respect is learned and should be taught and valued. Will the Trinity people die because Bell chose to act the way they did...NO...But later in life some of those disrepectful young people may wonder why they don't get a good job or can't keep one. Respect is something to value throughout your life. Be they students from Bell or Trinity not showing proper respect to an alma mater is the beginning of later problems in life. I am sorry you do not understand that.
bell grad dad
10-17-2005, 04:42 PM
BigFoot, not to get into a argument with you, but the BOOING of the Bell school song and spitting on players as they left the field for half time DID HAPPEN. I sat on the 10 yard line away from the score board and watched and heard both of these by Trinity students. What Bell may or may have not done intentional, the rivalry between these two schools has become as sad representation of what HEBISD is. I for one am disappointed everytime I see these two schools get together no matter the sport or event. Bell kids are told by their adminstration that they are not allowed to put Trinity down in ANY way. While some kids do it, most follow the lead of the school admins. NO WONDER WE CAN'T BEAT TRINITY, we are scolded at every mention of somethin that has to do with Trinity.
Please do not take this as a Bell parent trying to cause a stink........you have a very good football team and I hope you do well. Bell players do not need you tattling on them at the HEB offices and if this happened as you described, it just proves what I said earlier about the guidance these kids are given.
This rivalry is enough to make some want to move from the district as soon as their children get out of the activities that keep them here, it is a sad situation with no hope of fixing it anytime soon.
BigFoot
10-17-2005, 05:43 PM
The kids at the end of the stadium you sat on were junior high kids. I am sorry there is no one there to monitor that. I don't like it from either side.
I said that. The Trinity kids sit in front of the cheerleaders down by the band. That is not to say that some at the other might not have been students from Trinity. The saddest part of all of it is parents should be there to see what is going on but that is the problem in schools today no discipline at home and parents object to it at school. I certainly do not consider this an argument. But I will not write on a public board things I know have been done on the other side. The fact really is I wish it didn't happen at all from either side. I agree with you it is not what we should be seeing in our district. My daughter was spit on when she was a Troy-ann by other schools. It is a disgrace no matter who does it. You have a valid point rivalry needs boundries. I do believe someone needs to be in charge especially of those who are actively participating but nothing can be done when parents drop their children off and go elsewhere.
I love football and those participating are not the ones doing the acts you observed and I have never heard a Trinity parent boo the Bell team or band or anyone.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-17-2005, 05:50 PM
To Trueblue - you have the same right I do to go state your feelings to the administration. I back up my mouth, I get involved and take action.
bell grad dad - so sad you would even make a comment on moving out of such a great area as HEB. I moved to south Fort Worth to retire and I miss HEB except for the traffic.
sloth - I'm not a band member parent or anything like that. My son graduated from Trinity, plus cousins, and nieces/nephews. I have followed Trinity football for 26 years for the love of high school football and I've seen some of the best games ever played by Trinity and a great many playoff games by other schools. I enjoy high school football period.
The main issue is that the Bell football team disrespected Trinity and their fans by their actions and they have to be shown that this is unacceptable - not only at the high school level but in life in general. On another site, someone stated that Bell's principal e-mailed an apology first thing this morning to all Trinity staff and district administration. He was very apologetic and took full blame for the lack of supervision that led to the Bell team running out onto the field during Trinity's alma mater. Cudos to him and the administration for realizing the impact of this incident. Don't we send our kids to school to teach them knowledge for their future? This is one of those lessons.
bell grad dad
10-17-2005, 07:09 PM
I too am dissapointed and that was my reason for the earlier post. Nothing Chaps my A$* more than kids that are disrespectul. I am an official in sports and see it almost every game. That is not what rivalry is about.
PS.....if ALL of these kids next to us were in Junior High, Bell has no chance in hell over the next few years !!!!!!! there were some others mixed in.
Good luck to the football team and Thanks from all of us Bell Parents that do have a little class and respect.
Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-17-2005, 11:07 PM
I too am dissapointed and that was my reason for the earlier post. Nothing Chaps my A$* more than kids that are disrespectul. I am an official in sports and see it almost every game. That is not what rivalry is about.
PS.....if ALL of these kids next to us were in Junior High, Bell has no chance in hell over the next few years !!!!!!! there were some others mixed in.
Good luck to the football team and Thanks from all of us Bell Parents that do have a little class and respect.
There was a lot posted in the heat of the moment after Friday night's game. Reverse what happened and maybe you can understand how we felt. I know these kids are more or less unchaperoned at the games so that's why if I see anything going on I don't think is appropriate, I'll confront them to correct the situation. So far, the kids have shown me nothing but respect because I guess they're jolted back to reality about their behavior.
Clearer heads now prevail and the school administration will take the appropriate measures to make sure something like this won't happen again by either Bell or Trinity.
Good luck to Bell on their remaining games.
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