Upset Special - Coronado over Bowie

[The Great Evaluator]

Just got a feelin on this one. I think at the very least it will be closer than what people may think.

[KT2000]

It could very well happen. Coronado has a nice home field advantage working in that one. This will be a very close game in my opinion.

[SLC93]

I'll give you closer than folks may think but Bowie wins this one. I'm not sure that it will ever even be in doubt.

[The Great Evaluator]

Great minds think alike KT, any other upsets you see this weekend? To me the most intriguing game is Plano and Spring Westfield. 2 totally different styles but both are good at what they do.

[LeanderLions3033]

I'll give you closer than folks may think but Bowie wins this one. I'm not sure that it will ever even be in doubt.

Coronado's qb is fantastic.

[The Great Evaluator]

which is why I think they have a more than decent chance at an upset. Bo Campbell leads the state in sacks with 19 and has a motor that never stops. He's very reminscent of Shane Dronett who played at Texas in the early 90's. Coach Perry will have Bowie prepared but they don't travel worth a flip and if Coronado gets a good turnout of fans they could find themselves in the middle of a buzzsaw.

[cajun]

What kind of program is Coronado? AND, where is it?...

Just curious-thanks!

[The Great Evaluator]

Lubbock and they don't have much of a track record for success. This is the farthest they've gone in 10 years. Bowie has won the first 2 playoff games in the school's history this year, so you've got 2 teams with virtually no tradition.

[SLC93]

Coronado's qb is fantastic.

I'm not saying it to belittle Coronado in any way. My feeling about this Bowie team is that they have the look of a special team this season. They played a very tough schedule and bounced back from an emotional loss to roll their first 2 opponents this post season. They're deep and talented at every position and have a great head coach leading them. I'm not predicting a blowout, just a solid victory.

[KT2000]

I'm surprised Bowie would flip homes. The best Lubbock teams (usually Monty and Coronado) are very dangerous at home.

This will be a great challenge for Bowie's team.

[cajun]

Lubbock and they don't have much of a track record for success. This is the farthest they've gone in 10 years. Bowie has won the first 2 playoff games in the school's history this year, so you've got 2 teams with virtually no tradition.

Ok, thanks...

Sounds like anything could happen in this one then...

[dragonsdaddy]

Just got a feelin on this one. I think at the very least it will be closer than what people may think.

bowie by 28. it'll be a track meet and lc will be wearing their ankle weights.

[KT2000]

Great minds think alike KT, any other upsets you see this weekend? To me the most intriguing game is Plano and Spring Westfield. 2 totally different styles but both are good at what they do.

Round Rock over Skyline perhaps.

Skyline has cruised by their first two opponents. Round Rock is very well coached and can give them a fight.

[The Great Evaluator]

Good call, just as interesting as Plano and Westfield. After being the giant killers last year against Lufkin, I've gotten to where I don't call a Round Rock win an upset any more but on paper you're right it would be an upset when you look at the records.

[SLC93]

which is why I think they have a more than decent chance at an upset. Bo Campbell leads the state in sacks with 19 and has a motor that never stops. He's very reminscent of Shane Dronett who played at Texas in the early 90's. Coach Perry will have Bowie prepared but they don't travel worth a flip and if Coronado gets a good turnout of fans they could find themselves in the middle of a buzzsaw.

Excellent reference! I can't argue with your logic but my gut tells me something different. I think this is the time under Perry's direction that Bowie gets their 1st, big, road win in the playoffs. That's a huge step for the program. I think they may, very well, bow out next week. This week's win is what will drive the program this offseason as they prepare for a serious run next season. JMO

[dragonsdaddy]

Excellent reference! I can't argue with your logic but my gut tells me something different. I think this is the time under Perry's direction that Bowie gets their 1st, big, road win in the playoffs. That's a huge step for the program. I think they may, very well, bow out next week. This week's win is what will drive the program this offseason as they prepare for a serious run next season. JMO

bowie goes out in reg finals to either et or mojo. great season anyway you look at it.

[SLC93]

Round Rock over Skyline perhaps.

Skyline has cruised by their first two opponents. Round Rock is very well coached and can give them a fight.

Yeah, I looked at that one too. Still, it would be cool for DISD to hang around another week. It'll do nothing but good for all their programs to have these kids winning.

[SLC93]

bowie goes out in reg finals to either et or mojo. great season anyway you look at it.

I agree completely.

[The Great Evaluator]

Excellent reference! I can't argue with your logic but my gut tells me something different. I think this is the time under Perry's direction that Bowie gets their 1st, big, road win in the playoffs. That's a huge step for the program. I think they may, very well, bow out next week. This week's win is what will drive the program this offseason as they prepare for a serious run next season. JMO

Yes, I think next year they make a serious run. Good luck to Bowie and safe travels.

[Vols4Ever]

I'm surprised Bowie would flip homes. The best Lubbock teams (usually Monty and Coronado) are very dangerous at home.

This will be a great challenge for Bowie's team.

I don't think it was that simple. Coronado forced the flip. Not Bowie.

We wanted to play at Shotwell or Brownwood or Wichita Falls.

[The Wiz]

Those of you predicting a rout, (or a solid Bowie victory, with the outcome never in doubt) it sounds a lot like a north Texas bias to me. You make a prediction with no basis for it whatsoever. Do any of you know anything about Lubbock Coronado at all? I know I haven't seen them or Bowie play, so I can't make a prediction.

I can tell you that Midland Lee dominated a 9-1 metroplex team (Mansfield Summit, 28-7) and were handled with relative ease by Coronado last Friday. They are a team who has been getting better each week, and proven they can overcome adversity (getting to El Paso an hour before kickoff in their bidistrict win over EP Franklin). As for Bowie, just looking at their record and their schedule, they look like a high scoring team. This one could be a shootout. Just don't under estimate Coronado, especially at home.

[The Great Evaluator]

No bias here, I live in the metroplex and i'm picking Coronado in the upset. However everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[SLC93]

Those of you predicting a rout, (or a solid Bowie victory, with the outcome never in doubt) it sounds a lot like a north Texas bias to me. You make a prediction with no basis for it whatsoever. Do any of you know anything about Lubbock Coronado at all? I know I haven't seen them or Bowie play, so I can't make a prediction.

I can tell you that Midland Lee dominated a 9-1 metroplex team (Mansfield Summit, 28-7) and were handled with relative ease by Coronado last Friday. They are a team who has been getting better each week, and proven they can overcome adversity (getting to El Paso an hour before kickoff in their bidistrict win over EP Franklin). As for Bowie, just looking at their record and their schedule, they look like a high scoring team. This one could be a shootout. Just don't under estimate Coronado, especially at home.

Nobody is underestimating Coronado. I do find it a little humorous that in one breathe you admonish us for making presumptions about a team we may know little about but with your next breath you do the same. I could hear the sounds of a north Texas bias if it weren't for the screams of a west Texas one.:D

[toonman]

Bowie will win as part of a Tarrant County trifecta over the West Texas Teams.

[The Wiz]

Nobody is underestimating Coronado. I do find it a little humorous that in one breathe you admonish us for making presumptions about a team we may know little about but with your next breath you do the same. I could hear the sounds of a north Texas bias if it weren't for the screams of a west Texas one.:D

I'm not making predictions here. I didn't say, "Here's what's going to happen..." then give no supporting information as to why I believe that will happen. I simply stated that I haven't seen the teams play, and gave what information I do have on the matter.

Based on statistics I can believe it will be a good game, but I don't have enough information to make a prediction. I don't see how I can show any bias one way or another when I don't make a pick. :rolleyes:

[SLC93]

I'm not making predictions here. I didn't say, "Here's what's going to happen..." then give no supporting information as to why I believe that will happen. I simply stated that I haven't seen the teams play, and gave what information I do have on the matter.

Based on statistics I can believe it will be a good game, but I don't have enough information to make a prediction. I don't see how I can show any bias one way or another when I don't make a pick. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes::rolleyes: Sorry, had to get that out of my system. It is entirely possible to show our hand without making a play. That's is precisely what you did in your post. By giving more details of Coronado's accomplishments, glossing over Bowie's & reminding us, twice, not to underestimate Coronado you spelled out our thoughts with relative clarity. Though the words were not spoken, or written in this case, it takes very little to get your message. I'd prefer that you just make an uneducated guess, going with your heart, than what you just did with the "Who me?" bit. It's just conversation and we all have opinions. Compared to what we've seen on many threads previous, these predictions/feelings are far from inflammatory.

[drgnbkr]

:rolleyes::rolleyes: Sorry, had to get that out of my system. It is entirely possible to show our hand without making a play. That's is precisely what you did in your post. By giving more details of Coronado's accomplishments, glossing over Bowie's & reminding us, twice, not to underestimate Coronado you spelled out our thoughts with relative clarity. Though the words were not spoken, or written in this case, it takes very little to get your message. I'd prefer that you just make an uneducated guess, going with your heart, than what you just did with the "Who me?" bit. It's just conversation and we all have opinions. Compared to what we've seen on many threads previous, these predictions/feelings are far from inflammatory.

What he said...I think...:D

[Vols4Ever]

I can tell you that Midland Lee dominated a 9-1 metroplex team (Mansfield Summit, 28-7) and were handled with relative ease by Coronado last Friday.

A few things.... Mansfield Summit played in a VERY weak district (4-5A) that included such 'powerhouses' as Burleson, Granbury, Paschal, and North Crowley.
Summit's only competition in that district was Mansfield Timberview. Not to demean Summit, but they were not very good this year. They just had the benefit of a weak combined non-district and district schedule.

Secondly, I went to Summit's game vs Midland Lee. Summit fumbled 6 snapped balls, losing 1, but mostly, it affected their field position and loss of down. They shot themselves in the foot that game. They clearly had better athletes than Lee, but were not prepared. Summit simply fumbled that game away.

Third, I have taken the time to evaluate Lubbock Coronado from 1) My brother who is a senior at Tech and goes to Coronado and Monterrey games 2) This little thing called internet video 3) Level of competition as evidenced by their schedule and results 4) Statistical analysis of each of their games (as archived by the Lubbock Avalanche online).

It's not hard to learn a lot about a team you have not personally seen. All it takes is a Google search engine and some creative search strings along with careful analysis.

If anyone here thinks that Coronado has played near the quality of schedule that Bowie has played, or that Coronado can speed-wise "run with Bowie", then you are out of your minds. Bowie has faced potent offenses in Cedar Hill (win by 12), Skyline (win by 10), Denton Ryan (win by 20), Arlington Martin (pre-QB injury -- won by 28), Arlington Lamar (won by 21), and Desoto (lost by 1). We did not lose to any average 4A teams either. No did we give up 47 pts to a poor team like Tascosa. Bowie's run will likely end next week at the hands of Trinity or Permian, who I believe are the only 2 teams left in DI that matchup well enough to beat them.

I get tired of West Texas big heads dismissing us in North Central Texas as know-nothings and as being presumptive. I have been watching and reading about Coronado since week 9. So I feel as though I certainly know enough about them to comment appropriately. They have a great QB, and a decent defense. But will it be enough to run by Bowie? I just don't think so. And if that sounds disrespectful, then so be it.

[dragonsdaddy]

Those of you predicting a rout, (or a solid Bowie victory, with the outcome never in doubt) it sounds a lot like a north Texas bias to me. You make a prediction with no basis for it whatsoever. Do any of you know anything about Lubbock Coronado at all? I know I haven't seen them or Bowie play, so I can't make a prediction.

I can tell you that Midland Lee dominated a 9-1 metroplex team (Mansfield Summit, 28-7) and were handled with relative ease by Coronado last Friday. They are a team who has been getting better each week, and proven they can overcome adversity (getting to El Paso an hour before kickoff in their bidistrict win over EP Franklin). As for Bowie, just looking at their record and their schedule, they look like a high scoring team. This one could be a shootout. Just don't under estimate Coronado, especially at home.

if everyone would just realize that 4-5a fits better with 1-5a than any other district in the state. they are not good. the ep schools should propose to play them in round 1 so at least 2 and probably 3 could play in round 2.

[Eagle81]

For what it's worth, which ain't much. Coronado gave Permian all they could handle in their scrimmage. I'm personally very surprised to see them sitting here in the third round. But given the fact that niether team has any tradition to speak of, I have to go with Bowie in this one due to two quality wins (Chill and Skyline). But I wouldn't be shocked if Coronado pulled off the upset.

[Vols4Ever]

if everyone would just realize that 4-5a fits better with 1-5a than any other district in the state. they are not good. the ep schools should propose to play them in round 1 so at least 2 and probably 3 could play in round 2.

Exactly - everyone keeps putting so much stock in that Lee win over Summit.

4-5A is awful. Summit was still the best team in that district, but they are nowhere near as good as they used to be.

[Vols4Ever]

For what it's worth, which ain't much. Coronado gave Permian all they could handle in their scrimmage. I'm personally very surprised to see them sitting here in the third round. But given the fact that niether team has any tradition to speak of, I have to go with Bowie in this one due to two quality wins (Chill and Skyline). But I wouldn't be shocked if Coronado pulled off the upset.

I think Bowie wins over Martin, Flower Mound Marcus, and Denton Ryan are quality wins too -- especially with Ryan giving Abilene a good game this year.

[THEsportsauthority]

I was at the Bowie-Martin game. Bowie was ok. Martin was terrible. How they were undefetaed at that point is beyond me. It's been a nice season for Bowie...but they aren't as great as everyone in the metroplex is making them out to be. The district they played is way overrated and living in the past. DeSoto was decent. Cedar Hill was a shell of last year's team and really that team outside of William Cole wasn't that good. D'ville, Sam Houston, Arlington High, Lamar, and Martin are just average teams. And don't give me Denton Ryan win...maybe 3 years ago, and a different classification (4A). Bowie isgood...but they are no where near the level of Trinity, SLC, and certainly not Permian.
I won't be surprised if they win this week nor will I be surprised if they lose. Arlington football is weak.

[mojoman21]

i tell you permian scrimaged coronado the first of the year, and they actually out scored us. there the real deal.

[Vols4Ever]

I was at the Bowie-Martin game. Bowie was ok. Martin was terrible. How they were undefetaed at that point is beyond me. It's been a nice season for Bowie...but they aren't as great as everyone in the metroplex is making them out to be. The district they played is way overrated and living in the past. DeSoto was decent. Cedar Hill was a shell of last year's team and really that team outside of William Cole wasn't that good. D'ville, Sam Houston, Arlington High, Lamar, and Martin are just average teams. And don't give me Denton Ryan win...maybe 3 years ago, and a different classification (4A). Bowie isgood...but they are no where near the level of Trinity, SLC, and certainly not Permian.
I won't be surprised if they win this week nor will I be surprised if they lose. Arlington football is weak.

Martin was not terrible - several of their key players got hurt in the last 4 weeks of the season, including Sharum and Mathis.

As far as Arlington football being weak, you simply show your idiocy on this. Lamar and Arlington would have won district had they played in 2-5A or 1-5A, and would have made the playoffs easily in 3-5A. Outside of Permian who really is there? And don't give me Abilene either -- cuz that is a joke too.

If Arlington did the Plano ISD thing, and turned 3 of its high schools into 9th and 10th grade schools that feed into 3 Senior High Schools, you would see Arlington ISD teams deep in the playoffs annually.

[dragonsdaddy]

i tell you permian scrimaged coronado the first of the year, and they actually out scored us. there the real deal.

did they get a t-shirt made?

[Vols4Ever]

i tell you permian scrimaged coronado the first of the year, and they actually out scored us. there the real deal.

We scrimmaged Euless Trinity 4 or 5 years ago, and outscored them. Did not mean squat. We still were terrible.

[Vols4Ever]

If Abilene is so good, and they beat Ryan 49-41 (one score), then why is Bowie's win over Ryan discounted? Especially considering that Abilene only lost to Permian by 7?

You are the authority of your own toilet -- that's about it.

[Muru54]

It's not hard to learn a lot about a team you have not personally seen. All it takes is a Google search engine and some creative search strings along with careful analysis.

If anyone here thinks that Coronado has played near the quality of schedule that Bowie has played, or that Coronado can speed-wise "run with Bowie", then you are out of your minds. Bowie has faced potent offenses in Cedar Hill (win by 12), Skyline (win by 10), Denton Ryan (win by 20), Arlington Martin (pre-QB injury -- won by 28), Arlington Lamar (won by 21), and Desoto (lost by 1). We did not lose to any average 4A teams either. No did we give up 47 pts to a poor team like Tascosa. Bowie's run will likely end next week at the hands of Trinity or Permian, who I believe are the only 2 teams left in DI that matchup well enough to beat them.

I get tired of West Texas big heads dismissing us in North Central Texas as know-nothings and as being presumptive. I have been watching and reading about Coronado since week 9. So I feel as though I certainly know enough about them to comment appropriately. They have a great QB, and a decent defense. But will it be enough to run by Bowie? I just don't think so. And if that sounds disrespectful, then so be it.



First I want to say googling and watch clips on you tube do not show you anything about this team. Stats do not even show you what they really can do. These are players who make the big plays at the right time, whether its a stop on the defense or a huge gain on offense. They are play makers, and with great timing too. Also your comment about the Tascosa game. We were up like 48 to 14 when in the second half the coach decided to put second string in for practice next year and for more of the senior to play. It may have been a mistake to keep them in for 4 touchdowns on tascosa's end , but he showed great loyalty to his other player in giving them a chance. Right when he put first back in we made some stops and ended with a 20 point lead

[The Great Evaluator]

If for some reason, the Bowie players underestimate Coronado, they could come back very disappointed. I would love to see this one in person.

[Muru54]

did they get a t-shirt made?
No t shirts made. Coronado not cocky like that

[Vols4Ever]

If for some reason, the Bowie players underestimate Coronado, they could come back very disappointed. I would love to see this one in person.

You mean, you would love to see Bowie lose this game in person.

[Vols4Ever]

First I want to say googling and watch clips on you tube do not show you anything about this team. Stats do not even show you what they really can do. These are players who make the big plays at the right time, whether its a stop on the defense or a huge gain on offense. They are play makers, and with great timing too. Also your comment about the Tascosa game. We were up like 48 to 14 when in the second half the coach decided to put second string in for practice next year and for more of the senior to play. It may have been a mistake to keep them in for 4 touchdowns on tascosa's end , but he showed great loyalty to his other player in giving them a chance. Right when he put first back in we made some stops and ended with a 20 point lead

You can watch game clips and highlights and learn a lot about a team. If you don't think so, then that is a matter of your inability to grasp technology. I have not seen the Dallas Cowboys in person --- but I know they are really good.

[dragonsdaddy]

No t shirts made. Coronado not cocky like that

i don't think the loboes were cocky, just frustrated. btw, they have a streak in place.

[The Great Evaluator]

You mean, you would love to see Bowie lose this game in person.

Nope, I have no allegiance to either team - just love to see evenly matched games and I think this one will be. As a general rule I always pull for DFW teams and feel like the best h.s. football in the state is played right here.

I'm happy to see a couple of new faces like these 2 having a good year.

[gcat]

I think Bowie wins over Martin, Flower Mound Marcus, and Denton Ryan are quality wins too -- especially with Ryan giving Abilene a good game this year.

The Stats below were pulled from the 5ATexasfootball.com website. The numbers tell a story. Bowie has scored more points and allowed fewer points while playing better teams.
In terms of style of play, this is not a game of contrasts. Both teams want to throw the ball around. However, Bowie looks to have quite a bit more team speed.

Can Coronado beat Bowie? Of Course. That is why the game is played. Stranger things have happened.

However, Bowie has to be considered the favorite.


PPG 40.5 PPG Rank 10 Opp W/L (62-43)
PAPG 12.8 PAPG Rank 10 OppOpp W/L (611-502)
Margin 27.6 Margin Rank 9 SOS 0.6205
SOS Rank 10
Arlington Bowie (11-1)


PPG 34.4 PPG Rank 34 Opp W/L (52-54)
PAPG 18.7 PAPG Rank 66 OppOpp W/L (557-418)
Margin 15.6 Margin Rank 35 SOS 0.5508
SOS Rank 78
Lubbock Coronado (11-1)

[gcat]

If for some reason, the Bowie players underestimate Coronado, they could come back very disappointed. I would love to see this one in person.
I know for a fact that the Bowie players are not underestimating Coronado. They view this as a business trip. What facts do you have to substantiate your statements?

[Vols4Ever]

I know for a fact that the Bowie players are not underestimating Coronado. They view this as a business trip. What facts do you have to substantiate your statements?

Gcat - I heard they were wearing dress shirts, with khakis, and ties on the bus out there Friday. This true?

[The Great Evaluator]

I know for a fact that the Bowie players are not underestimating Coronado. They view this as a business trip. What facts do you have to substantiate your statements?

With the numbers being fairly close, I think homefield advantage could be the difference. If you've ever been to a playoff game in West Texas before, you'll know what I mean. But as far as numbers go, I know the Coronado QB has better numbers than Bowie's. And Bo Campbell leads the state in sacks at Defensive End.

[dragonsdaddy]

With the numbers being fairly close, I think homefield advantage could be the difference. If you've ever been to a playoff game in West Texas before, you'll know what I mean. But as far as numbers go, I know the Coronado QB has better numbers than Bowie's. And Bo Campbell leads the state in sacks at Defensive End.

where are sack records kept?

[gcat]

With the numbers being fairly close, I think homefield advantage could be the difference. If you've ever been to a playoff game in West Texas before, you'll know what I mean. But as far as numbers go, I know the Coronado QB has better numbers than Bowie's. And Bo Campbell leads the state in sacks at Defensive End.

The level of competition is a factor. The 2nd place team in Coronado's district was a 6-6 team. I restate. Bowie has scored more points, given up fewer points, and played better teams.

Bo Campbell has 18 sacks and Eric Mebane has 14 for Bowie. Once again, against better competition.

[gcat]

Gcat - I heard they were wearing dress shirts, with khakis, and ties on the bus out there Friday. This true?

No, they are going business casual since the trip is over 5 hours.

[gcat]

where are sack records kept?

Dragonsdaddy,

I have searched for sack records and can't find any that are all inclusive. Bowie records is where I got Eric Mebane's 14 sacks. The same number was referenced in the Dallas Morning News this morning when the matchup was capsuled.

[dragonsdaddy]

Dragonsdaddy,

I have searched for sack records and can't find any that are all inclusive. Bowie records is where I got Eric Mebane's 14 sacks. The same number was referenced in the Dallas Morning News this morning when the matchup was capsuled.

i'm not doubting tge, i just wondered where he got his data.

[gcat]

i'm not doubting tge, i just wondered where he got his data.
dragonsdaddy, I understand. I wonder too.

[DragonFan0316]

I work with Mebane's Dad. He is the real deal. Has committed to Purdue I think. Bowie wins this game west TX or not. Just my opinion.:D

[The Great Evaluator]

i'm not doubting tge, i just wondered where he got his data.

I have no reason to exaggerate and as stated before no allegiance to either team. For the record I got my info. the same place as most everyone else - the newspaper.

[gcat]

I have no reason to exaggerate and as stated before no allegiance to either team. For the record I got my info. the same place as most everyone else - the newspaper.

Just messing with you TGE.:)

[F18mustang]

Its always been that way, of course Metroplex teams play harder schedules. Try being spread out like in west texas and playing hard schedules, its hard to do ( no metroplex teams want to come out here anyway beacuse they dont really do well with travel, IMO). Nobody will ever take any teams very seriously out in west texas if you dont have Permian, Lee, Or Abilene in your name.

Secondly, you cant really get a feel for how good a team is based on online videos and paper statistics. Teams get better each week, and the only way to tell how good a team is, you gotta see them in person. Unfortunatly, no one from the plex has seen us play, so of course the perdictions and the outlooks will be hard to tell, or be biased. Its really called flying under the radar.

My two .02

[gcat]

Its always been that way, of course Metroplex teams play harder schedules. Try being spread out like in west texas and playing hard schedules, its hard to do ( no metroplex teams want to come out here anyway beacuse they dont really do well with travel, IMO). Nobody will ever take any teams very seriously out in west texas if you dont have Permian, Lee, Or Abilene in your name.

Secondly, you cant really get a feel for how good a team is based on online videos and paper statistics. Teams get better each week, and the only way to tell how good a team is, you gotta see them in person. Unfortunatly, no one from the plex has seen us play, so of course the perdictions and the outlooks will be hard to tell, or be biased. Its really called flying under the radar.

My two .02

f18Mustang,

Bowie is taking Coronado very seriously. This is the 3rd round of the playoffs in Texas. You would not be here if you could not play. Plus the game is in your backyard. I look forward to a hard fought Texas style battle.

[F18mustang]

f18Mustang,

Bowie is taking Coronado very seriously. This is the 3rd round of the playoffs in Texas. You would not be here if you could not play. Plus the game is in your backyard. I look forward to a hard fought Texas style battle.

Indeed. I hope its a great game and safe travel up tomarrow.

[Muru54]

You can watch game clips and highlights and learn a lot about a team. If you don't think so, then that is a matter of your inability to grasp technology. I have not seen the Dallas Cowboys in person --- but I know they are really good.

I have no inability to grasp technology . My job revolves around it. I'm just saying you can watch a few clips and never really grasp how good this team is. How about the New England Patriots spying on other teams practice. Surely those videos of previous games should have been enough. They did there homework( not in a very good way though) The real ability to know how good these players are is if you watched them in person . I've watched every game this year and I definetly see an improvement. So I hope if your studying games your at least studying the most recent ones.

[Vols4Ever]

I have no inability to grasp technology . My job revolves around it. I'm just saying you can watch a few clips and never really grasp how good this team is. How about the New England Patriots spying on other teams practice. Surely those videos of previous games should have been enough. They did there homework( not in a very good way though) The real ability to know how good these players are is if you watched them in person . I've watched every game this year and I definetly see an improvement. So I hope if your studying games your at least studying the most recent ones.

Then lets agree that if your point is correct, you can not grasp how good Bowie's offense is, or how good their defense is. But one thing we can all grasp simply by looking at the paper --- Bowie has played a tougher schedule, beating teams with an overall winning record and including one defending state champion.

[F18mustang]

Then lets agree that if your point is correct, you can not grasp how good Bowie's offense is, or how good their defense is. But one thing we can all grasp simply by looking at the paper --- Bowie has played a tougher schedule, beating teams with an overall winning record and including one defending state champion.

Then why play the game? Bowie has obviously done more than we have.

[dragonsdaddy]

I have no reason to exaggerate and as stated before no allegiance to either team. For the record I got my info. the same place as most everyone else - the newspaper.

but if the newspaper says that he leads the state in sacks, that implies that they know what every other de/lb in the state has done, sack-wise. sounds like hyperbole may be in play.

[gcat]

Then why play the game? Bowie has obviously done more than we have.

F18mustang,

All of this discussion is about what things look like on paper. The game will be played at 1 tomorrow on the field. Fortunately this will not be like the BCS. Coronado and Bowie will line up and express themselves fully and without reservations. Just like the dog that lost his tail. "It won't be long now"! See you tomorrow.

[rebel56]

I get tired of West Texas big heads dismissing us in North Central Texas as know-nothings and as being presumptive. I have been watching and reading about Coronado since week 9. So I feel as though I certainly know enough about them to comment appropriately. They have a great QB, and a decent defense. But will it be enough to run by Bowie? I just don't think so. And if that sounds disrespectful, then so be it.

West Texas big heads? I thought we were just undereducated.:rolleyes:

Even though I played in it, District 2-5A was weak as well. Every team except for Coronado was basically just mediocre, and every game between them seemed to be determined by a coin flip. After seeing how Bowie took care of teams such as Cedar Hill and Skyline, big metroplex teams that would dismantle some programs up here in the Texas Panhandle, I don't see Bowie having a problem in any other way except for the "trap game" myth.

[The Great Evaluator]

but if the newspaper says that he leads the state in sacks, that implies that they know what every other de/lb in the state has done, sack-wise. sounds like hyperbole may be in play.

Why ya always bustin my chops? I can't think of anyone else who has 18 sacks this year and i follow the game pretty closely. Just for you I'll revise the statement - He's an above average pass rusher who has the ability to impact the game. Can we agree on that?

[gcat]

Why ya always bustin my chops? I can't think of anyone else who has 18 sacks this year and i follow the game pretty closely. Just for you I'll revise the statement - He's an above average pass rusher who has the ability to impact the game. Can we agree on that?
Make it a game instead of the game and I'm good:D Just kidding. I am sure he is a fine player.

[dragonsdaddy]

Why ya always bustin my chops? I can't think of anyone else who has 18 sacks this year and i follow the game pretty closely. Just for you I'll revise the statement - He's an above average pass rusher who has the ability to impact the game. Can we agree on that?

bustin your chops?? you made the definitive statement. i simply wanted to know where the data came from. i guess we can put an asterisk by it(as per xxxxxx newspaper hyperbole). when something is an opinion, even a well educated opinion, i'd rather hear it as such, not as an absolute fact. i'm funny that way.

[Vols4Ever]

Weather is going to be a factor tomorrow -- check out this mess in Lubbock --

Areas of drizzle, then a slight chance of showers after noon. Areas of fog before noon. Otherwise, cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 69. Windy, with a south southwest wind between 25 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

If the wind limits the passing game, it will be who can rush the best vs who can defend the rush the best.

[sgp3]

wow well Bowie can throw those bubble screen, they are use to throwing:D
Weather is going to be a factor tomorrow -- check out this mess in Lubbock --

Areas of drizzle, then a slight chance of showers after noon. Areas of fog before noon. Otherwise, cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 69. Windy, with a south southwest wind between 25 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

If the wind limits the passing game, it will be who can rush the best vs who can defend the rush the best.

[farmerfan]

Bowie is an excellent team. Marcus out played them in the first half last week and took them to the locker room tied up at 7. The Marcus D had created some problems for the Bowie O in the first half after the initial drive.
The second half saw a different Bowie team that made one halftime adjustment that did wonders.
They gashed Marcus with just a basic counter play that must have netted 200+ yards rushing. Bowie has the athletes and Coach Perry is an incredible coach. He was able to get the best of Coach Erwin last week and not many can say they have been able to do that recently. I came away very impressed with the team I watched play in the second half.

[Vols4Ever]

Bowie's team busses have arrived in Lubbock, and the team is now doing run through practice on the Jones.

My brother is a Sr. and an Equipment Manager for the Tech football team -- he helped get them setup this afternoon. Very cool for my brother to see his hs alma mater practice and play at his college alma mater's home field.

Coach Perry was excited to be greeted by an alum there at Jones.

My brother reports a very focused and serious looking bunch of young men, but a group that still appears relaxed. Business casual off the bus, and warmup gear to the field. Bowie declined a practice indoors despite drizzle today.

[F18mustang]

Weather is going to be a factor tomorrow -- check out this mess in Lubbock --

Areas of drizzle, then a slight chance of showers after noon. Areas of fog before noon. Otherwise, cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 69. Windy, with a south southwest wind between 25 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

If the wind limits the passing game, it will be who can rush the best vs who can defend the rush the best.

No prob! Should be quite the contrast we (and a lot of other teams) played in last week

[gcat]

Well....As a Bowie Vols fan, I will enjoy this victory until midnight before turning attention to Euless Trinity.

I was just wondering if any of those who posted their "feelings" and etc. regarding a Coronado upset would like make any final post game statements.

[gcat]

Well....As a Bowie Vols fan, I will enjoy this victory until midnight before turning attention to Euless Trinity.

I was just wondering if any of those who posted their "feelings" and etc. regarding a Coronado upset would like make any final post game statements.

Silence is indeed Golden. On to round 4.

[LubCHSfan]

well. i posted in another thread about this, perhaps you didn't catch it...

Congrats to Bowie, they are crazyfast. Good luck on next round.

Congrats to CHS on a great year 11-2, best we have done in a long time!

[The Great Evaluator]

Only fair that I give Bowie some props after going out on that limb to predict an upset. I felt they were the better team but thought traveling a long distance, staying in a hotel and playing in a hostile environment might be the difference.

This was all new to them but they passed the test with flying colors. This week will present a different challenge as they go up against a program that has been as good as any the last 3 years and is playing at a high level. I'll save any predictions on this one and just enjoy watching the show - good luck to both teams!

[gcat]

well. i posted in another thread about this, perhaps you didn't catch it...

Congrats to Bowie, they are crazyfast. Good luck on next round.

Congrats to CHS on a great year 11-2, best we have done in a long time!
Thank you LubCHSfan. Your QB was very impressive. There were a number of times that he made something out of nothing. Congratulations to a great year and good luck in the future.

[gcat]

Only fair that I give Bowie some props after going out on that limb to predict an upset. I felt they were the better team but thought traveling a long distance, staying in a hotel and playing in a hostile environment might be the difference.

This was all new to them but they passed the test with flying colors. This week will present a different challenge as they go up against a program that has been as good as any the last 3 years and is playing at a high level. I'll save any predictions on this one and just enjoy watching the show - good luck to both teams!

Appreciate it TGE. The team is excited at the opportunity.

[TrojanHorse03]

Appreciate it TGE. The team is excited at the opportunity.
Same here. Per capabilities Bowie is the most underrated team left in the field.

[Vols4Ever]

I enjoyed my trip to Lubbock.

Texas Tech are great hosts for playoff football -- they had the best video replay I have seen yet. At least they use it for high school football. Texas Stadium will not use theirs. Pretty cheesy.

The claims on the Coronado QB are true - I confirmed with memebrs of Texas Tech's student managers. He ran a 4.29 in one of the 40s he ran at a Tech combine. Averages 4.33. He was super good in the loss against Bowie.

That kid is D1 for sure.

As for Bowie, things get incredibly more difficult this week.

[The Great Evaluator]

Appreciate it TGE. The team is excited at the opportunity.

Happy to see the metroplex continue its dominance - As a Bowie fan, what do you see as the biggest challenge in beating the Trojans?

[Vols4Ever]

Happy to see the metroplex continue its dominance - As a Bowie fan, what do you see as the biggest challenge in beating the Trojans?

Very large polynesians.

[gcat]

Happy to see the metroplex continue its dominance - As a Bowie fan, what do you see as the biggest challenge in beating the Trojans?

The same as everyone who has played them. They are big and physical. It has to be dealt with.

[dragonsdaddy]

bowie by 28. it'll be a track meet and lc will be wearing their ankle weights.

who predicted it closer than this blind hog, i ask you?

[The Great Evaluator]

Fair enough DD but did you also predict a Carroll loss?

[hollywood]

Don't know if it will make a difference or not but I think Bowie was well off in facing another team earlier in the playoffs in TX Stadium. They should be over the playoff jitters, especially the awe that seems to come over many teams playing in TX Stadium.

That being said, the Trojans are very comfortable at TX Stadium. What is their record there the past three years?

[dragonsdaddy]

Fair enough DD but did you also predict a Carroll loss?

no, my c ball left the rd injury in the dark.

[The Great Evaluator]

no, my c ball left the rd injury in the dark.

Yeah, there's no doubt that was the difference. Congrats to the Dragons, it just wasn't their year. Their ability to "dodge" the injury bug the last few years has been remarkable.

With Blake, Tre and Riley all getting dinged up over the last month it was tough. My hat's off to Kyle Padron. He has a lot to be proud of. He engineered a very gutsy drive at the end.

I would have loved to see Katy and SLC one more time but it wasn't to be. Congrats to Carroll, they've been great champions these last few years.