MOJO vs Trinity tickets sales

[odessapermian.com]

Permian sold 4000 yesterday. Word today is we were down to around 1000 left to sell this afternoon. Not sure how many we were allowed to sell but Shotwell seats 15000, and they typically allow each team half the tickets, minus sections for the bands. So roughly 7000 ticket options should have been available for each team.

Any idea how ticket sales are going in Euless?

[Tantal]

No clue, but I got mine Monday just to be on the safe side. I can foresee every football fan within 100 miles showing up at Shotwell on Saturday just to see a good ball game. I wasn't taking a chance at driving 3 hours to be turned away at the gate. Last year's Trinity/SLC game got a little more media hype than this one, but 46,000 showed up for that one. I'd be surprised if Shotwell didn't sell out this weekend.

[mojotrain]

No clue, but I got mine Monday just to be on the safe side. I can foresee every football fan within 100 miles showing up at Shotwell on Saturday just to see a good ball game. I wasn't taking a chance at driving 3 hours to be turned away at the gate. Last year's Trinity/SLC game got a little more media hype than this one, but 46,000 showed up for that one. I'd be surprised if Shotwell didn't sell out this weekend.

I should be easy to get 46,000 fans to a game out of a cluster of several million people. No fat hog at all. This game is at a neutral site involving a town of 100,000, 175 miles away. Shotwell will be full at 15,000 more than half will be from Odessa. Whats more impressive 46,000, out of say 5 million or 7,500 out of 100,000?

[Tantal]

Yeah, but we actually have other things that we COULD be doing in the Metroplex besides going to high school football games. Abilene? Not so much.:DYou also have to consider that many limp-wristed city folks don't appreciate good football like we do.

And don't get high an' mighty about me disparaging West Texas. I've lived in Odessa, and I've lived just down the road from Abilene. There ain't **** to do out there 'cept drink and screw. Dammit! Now I may have to move back.:D

[AbEagleFan]

Yeah, but we actually have other things that we COULD be doing in the Metroplex besides going to high school football games. Abilene? Not so much.:DYou also have to consider that many limp-wristed city folks don't appreciate good football like we do.

And don't get high an' mighty about me disparaging West Texas. I've lived in Odessa, and I've lived just down the road from Abilene. There ain't **** to do out there 'cept drink and screw. Dammit! Now I may have to move back.:D

Hey, there's lots of things to do in Abilene like..... Oh wait, forgot, they just raided all the game rooms, arrested everyone and took away their 8-liners.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2007/nov/27/gaming-raids-net-29-arrests/

But wait! The distorter news has informed us that Bingo play within the city may now increase since we have nothing else to do! Come on down to Abilene folks!

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2007/nov/28/raids-may-be-jackpot-for-bingo/

[trojanbacker]

If it "aint not fat hog at all" to get 46,000 (it was actually more) to Texas Stadium for a high school playoff game, why isn't it done every week? No matter where the game is played.....Texas Stadium, AlamoDome, etc......if you get 46,000 to a high school game, that is pretty amazing.

[slcdragonfan]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

[KattTx]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

Ya gotta use what talents you are blessed with, right? :p

And sadly our Horned Toads are not nearly as plentiful as they used to be out here. If North Texas has some to spare - send em down here!! :D

[Trinity75]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

Funny stuff. I hope Saturday gets here soon too. Makes me laugh when I see all the stuff that is being compared. I wonder which McDonalds sells more burgers? Euless McDonalds or Odessa McDonalds? Anyone have any stats on that? Just Kidding. I don't want someone to stay up all night looking it up and then posting it here.

[slcdragonfan]

Ya gotta use what talents you are blessed with, right? :p

And sadly our Horned Toads are not nearly as plentiful as they used to be out here. If North Texas has some to spare - send em down here!! :D

I hear tell that there are more North Texas horned toads, but they are not as "horned" as west texas horned toads, and West Texas Horned Toads run a 4.3 40 when you can get 'em to run. The North Texas horned toads are very good at spitting, they can spit a 4.25 40 with their eyes half open, but their spit completion percentage is not as high.

I figure we can get a few hundred toads at the stadiums if we start looking now, they are getting scarce.

As far as hamburgers, EVERYBODY knows that Euless sells more hamburgers with mayo than the Odessa Mac, but the Odessa Mac sells more with mustard. They are equal when it comes to cheeseburger sales though.

Oh, and by the way, the MacDonalds people in Odessa run a 4.25 40 but the MacDonalds people in Trinity are bigger.:D

Now, if I was a hijacker, I would find some way to say something about the MacDonalds in Southlake, but everybody knows we don't eat anything but ground sirloin or better!:eek::D

[KattTx]

I hear tell that there are more North Texas horned toads, but they are not as "horned" as west texas horned toads, and West Texas Horned Toads run a 4.3 40 when you can get 'em to run. The North Texas horned toads are very good at spitting, they can spit a 4.25 40 with their eyes half open, but their spit completion percentage is not as high.

I figure we can get a few hundred toads at the stadiums if we start looking now, they are getting scarce.

As far as hamburgers, EVERYBODY knows that Euless sells more hamburgers with mayo than the Odessa Mac, but the Odessa Mac sells more with mustard. They are equal when it comes to cheeseburger sales though.

Oh, and by the way, the MacDonalds people in Odessa run a 4.25 40 but the MacDonalds people in Trinity are bigger.:D

Now, if I was a hijacker, I would find some way to say something about the MacDonalds in Southlake, but everybody knows we don't eat anything but ground sirloin or better!:eek::D

LMAO!!!! :notworthy:notworthy

[powerofthehaka]

I hear tell that there are more North Texas horned toads, but they are not as "horned" as west texas horned toads, and West Texas Horned Toads run a 4.3 40 when you can get 'em to run. The North Texas horned toads are very good at spitting, they can spit a 4.25 40 with their eyes half open, but their spit completion percentage is not as high.

I figure we can get a few hundred toads at the stadiums if we start looking now, they are getting scarce.

As far as hamburgers, EVERYBODY knows that Euless sells more hamburgers with mayo than the Odessa Mac, but the Odessa Mac sells more with mustard. They are equal when it comes to cheeseburger sales though.

Oh, and by the way, the MacDonalds people in Odessa run a 4.25 40 but the MacDonalds people in Trinity are bigger.:D

Now, if I was a hijacker, I would find some way to say something about the MacDonalds in Southlake, but everybody knows we don't eat anything but ground sirloin or better!:eek::D

Except the women only consume silicone.:eek::D

[trojanbacker]

lol. But, I think Kincaids in Southlake would take exception to your statement about ground sirloin.

[slcdragonfan]

lol. But, I think Kincaids in Southlake would take exception to your statement about ground sirloin.

HAH! You discovered my deep dark secret! I ADMIT IT, I DID HAVE A DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER FROM THERE on Tuesday, Nov 27 @ 7:00pm, I couldn't help myself! I know its not ground sirloin, but I just had to have it!

No fries though. I am waiting for my cholesterol to get below 1000 before going again.:D

And it had mustard on it, although I picked mayo. The waiters only ran about a 4.4 40. There was no spitting that I could detect.:eek:

[mojotrain]

If it "aint not fat hog at all" to get 46,000 (it was actually more) to Texas Stadium for a high school playoff game, why isn't it done every week? No matter where the game is played.....Texas Stadium, AlamoDome, etc......if you get 46,000 to a high school game, that is pretty amazing.

Not really! How many highschool football fans live it the D/FW area. How far is TS from the D/FW area. To me its more impressive to see 15,000 to 20,000 fans show up over 150 miles from the two schools involved in a game. You, I guess would be impressed with 200,000 Hispanics showing up in a Latin city with a population of 13,000,000 to watch a soccer game. I say no big deal. Factor in effort to your ideas.

[The Great Evaluator]

On Thanksgiving weekend, I have a lot of family and friends who go out of town. I also know some die hard h.s. football fans who elected to watch Texas and A&M play.

On top of that, I know a lot of folks sitting in traffic gave up sitting outside the stadium waiting to get in to a poorly prepared staff of parking attendants.

Besides, it still ranks as 2nd on the all time list.

[mojotrain]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

You are right, but thats the way things tend to go on all strings. Feel free to throw a little SLC stuff out. I'm not opposed to hijacking at all.

[BigFoot]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

So true and for OP to out sell ET is not a miracle...we are a town of 33,000 plus or minus. Also, why would football fans who live here that are not ET fans drive two hours to see a high school game when they can see three at Texas Stadium for the price of one. The ET fans will be there and be loud if if it is only a small group. Last year TS was amazing for that game.

[mojotrain]

Yeah, but we actually have other things that we COULD be doing in the Metroplex besides going to high school football games. Abilene? Not so much.:DYou also have to consider that many limp-wristed city folks don't appreciate good football like we do.

And don't get high an' mighty about me disparaging West Texas. I've lived in Odessa, and I've lived just down the road from Abilene. There ain't **** to do out there 'cept drink and screw. Dammit! Now I may have to move back.:D

Just what else do you do other than work and support high school football? You post on this site for intertainment but we do that here also. Tell me I would like to know. Be truthful.

[odessapermian.com]

Wow, now this thread has digressed to who sells the most tickets and which is the most meaningful???:D LOL, If Saturday doesn't come soon we'll be talking about whether Horned Toads in West Texas are more plentiful than armadillo's in North Texas, and which is more meaningful, and which gets run over the most.

Then we can move on to Ford vs. Chevy, which has more rocks (Hill Country or West Texas), etc.:notworthy I bow to your ability to find new things to discuss before this game.

This thread was already about ticket sales, so I'm not sure how it could have digressed as you put it.

We are curious about tickets sales in Euless because if we sell out here, we would like to know how many tickets allotted for ET will be available. Simple as that.

[DragonFan]

Except the women only consume silicone.:eek::D

The women dont consume anything but display thier silicone very well!

[littlelish]

Hello. I am heading to the game on Saturday. My dd is 8 and it is time for her to see the MOJO Magic. What are my chances of getting tickets at the gate?

Thanks,
LuAnn

[BigFoot]

Not really! How many highschool football fans live it the D/FW area. How far is TS from the D/FW area. To me its more impressive to see 15,000 to 20,000 fans show up over 150 miles from the two schools involved in a game. You, I guess would be impressed with 200,000 Hispanics showing up in a Latin city with a population of 13,000,000 to watch a soccer game. I say no big deal. Factor in effort to your ideas.

Point is....We have so many high schools it is not a two school area. Most of our followings are smaller because the size of Euless, Hurst, Bedford, Allen,
Frisco, Southlake, Grapevine, Colleyville etc. are not near the population of your area. PLUS we have a lot of move-ins from other states who could care less about high school football. PLUS round two of the playoffs many of the area teams were playing elsewhere. If there had been many more people they would not have gotten in anyway. The traffic was so bad people didn't even get there until after the 2nd quarter. You are also rude for no reason.
I didn't say one unkind word to you and yet you try to insult me. The crowd was a record attendance no matter what you or I think. Just stating facts about why a metroplex does not necessarily fill TS. Too many other events
going on. The avid fans go but believe me we go to high school games here where the opponent may have one person for each football player, band member, drill team member, cheerleader, etc. Some crowds we have played against are less than 1,000 even less. We in the metroplex don't expect the crowds West Texas has ...would be great but just doesn't happen.

[slcdragonfan]

Just what else do you do other than work and support high school football? You post on this site for intertainment but we do that here also. Tell me I would like to know. Be truthful.

Personally, I have been doing a lot less work and a lot more posting....

[slcdragonfan]

This thread was already about ticket sales, so I'm not sure how it could have digressed as you put it.

We are curious about tickets sales in Euless because if we sell out here, we would like to know how many tickets allotted for ET will be available. Simple as that.

OK, go all serious if you want.:p But folks aren't just talking about ticket sales, they are talking about the MEANING of ticket sales, and of ticket sales past, and the statistical meaning of ticket sales in a larger population area vs a smaller more rural area, and the opportunity for other entertainment options which is a factor on stated sales. Come on. The topic is legit enough, but its getting into a "mine's bigger'n yourn" kind of deal. What's next, my JD (John Deere for those of you who are not real men) is faster than yours because I use West Texas gas? That is fine, but I am going to have fun with it, you can like it or not like it.

Personally, I think that the West Texas jackrabbit can run UNDER a 4.3, but even if it doesn't it has great moves. That is as opposed to the North Texas 'African Swallow'which has shown up late this year, but did put on quite a show when it arrived. Looking at attendance figures for the West Texas zoos vs the North Texas zoos, I see an overwhelming number of sales in the North Texas area. Even though there ARE no zoos in West Texas, I believe it is statistically significant, and have a video of the jackrabbit catching the ball before the pitch which the lineman should have called....wait....wrong thread. Which of course is a very legitimate 17 page thread.:eek::D:o

Gotta go work, can't wait for Saturday.

[jbusch]

This thread was already about ticket sales, so I'm not sure how it could have digressed as you put it.

We are curious about tickets sales in Euless because if we sell out here, we would like to know how many tickets allotted for ET will be available. Simple as that.

I just don't understand, OP is almost 50% larger than ET why didn't they get more tickets, Where's the fairness in this world? Dang rules - trying to make things equal!!!!!!!

It's Robin Hood 2

[mojotrain]

Point is....We have so many high schools it is not a two school area. Most of our followings are smaller because the size of Euless, Hurst, Bedford, Allen,
Frisco, Southlake, Grapevine, Colleyville etc. are not near the population of your area. PLUS we have a lot of move-ins from other states who could care less about high school football. PLUS round two of the playoffs many of the area teams were playing elsewhere. If there had been many more people they would not have gotten in anyway. The traffic was so bad people didn't even get there until after the 2nd quarter. You are also rude for no reason.
I didn't say one unkind word to you and yet you try to insult me. The crowd was a record attendance no matter what you or I think. Just stating facts about why a metroplex does not necessarily fill TS. Too many other events
going on. The avid fans go but believe me we go to high school games here where the opponent may have one person for each football player, band member, drill team member, cheerleader, etc. Some crowds we have played against are less than 1,000 even less. We in the metroplex don't expect the crowds West Texas has ...would be great but just doesn't happen.
OK then a person whuppin it up for a Area population of at least 3,000,000 people in a 40mile radius, with a couple of schools who are big time and play big time football should not view,IMO that to be any bigger a feat than West Texas teams with populations of 100,000 to 120,000 putting 12,000 to 25,000 in stadiums built to seat 14,000 to 20,000, 170 miles away. That during district season as well as playoffs. That to me is a greater feat than the 46,000 at TS. Your statements mean as much as " there are more cars on the road around D/FW than there are in all of Odessa, Midland and Abilene. I would agree but that is not fat hog to cut.

[Trinity75]

I just don't understand, OP is almost 50% larger than ET why didn't they get more tickets, Where's the fairness in this world? Dang rules - trying to make things equal!!!!!!!

It's Robin Hood 2

I think the REFS got the balance of them. They are going to bring their families & friends. Hey don't the refs wear black and white? That's our colors. Go REFS!!!

[slcdragonfan]

OK then a person whuppin it up for a Area population of at least 3,000,000 people in a 40mile radius, with a couple of schools who are big time and play big time football should not view,IMO that to be any bigger a feat than West Texas teams with populations of 100,000 to 120,000 putting 12,000 to 25,000 in stadiums built to seat 14,000 to 20,000, 170 miles away. That during district season as well as playoffs. That to me is a greater feat than the 46,000 at TS. Your statements mean as much as " there are more cars on the road around D/FW than there are in all of Odessa, Midland and Abilene. I would agree but that is not fat hog to cut.

What the h:Censor: does that mean? I need another good saying like that in my slang belt.

[BackNBlack87]

OK, go all serious if you want.:p But folks aren't just talking about ticket sales, they are talking about the MEANING of ticket sales, and of ticket sales past, and the statistical meaning of ticket sales in a larger population area vs a smaller more rural area, and the opportunity for other entertainment options which is a factor on stated sales. Come on. The topic is legit enough, but its getting into a "mine's bigger'n yourn" kind of deal. What's next, my JD (John Deere for those of you who are not real men) is faster than yours because I use West Texas gas? That is fine, but I am going to have fun with it, you can like it or not like it.

Personally, I think that the West Texas jackrabbit can run UNDER a 4.3, but even if it doesn't it has great moves. That is as opposed to the North Texas 'African Swallow'which has shown up late this year, but did put on quite a show when it arrived. Looking at attendance figures for the West Texas zoos vs the North Texas zoos, I see an overwhelming number of sales in the North Texas area. Even though there ARE no zoos in West Texas, I believe it is statistically significant, and have a video of the jackrabbit catching the ball before the pitch which the lineman should have called....wait....wrong thread. Which of course is a very legitimate 17 page thread.:eek::D:o

Gotta go work, can't wait for Saturday.

Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop. What... is your name?
King Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
King Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
King Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.
[he is thrown over]
Bridgekeeper: Auuuuuuuugh.
Sir Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows?
King Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

[powerofthehaka]

Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop. What... is your name?
King Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
King Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
King Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.
[he is thrown over]
Bridgekeeper: Auuuuuuuugh.
Sir Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows?
King Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

Only about 3 people will "get" that. Luckily, I am one.:notworthy

[trojanbacker]

I'm lost on all the fat pig talk. And I spent 11 years in West Texas.

[BackNBlack87]

Only about 3 people will "get" that. Luckily, I am one.:notworthy

Ha. I was thinking that, but I figured the people with good taste would get it....

[mojofan09]

Only about 3 people will "get" that. Luckily, I am one.:notworthy

Count me as one of them. I love that movie!

[powerofthehaka]

Ha. I was thinking that, but I figured the people with good taste would get it....

I own the DVD. Whatever that says about a person.:eek:

[slcdragonfan]

Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop. What... is your name?
King Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
King Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
King Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.
[he is thrown over]
Bridgekeeper: Auuuuuuuugh.
Sir Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows?
King Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

LOL. Exactly. But I bow to your superior knowledge:notworthy no way I could quote it!

[slcdragonfan]

I own the DVD. Whatever that says about a person.:eek:

In fact, we will have a test on literary and film references at the end of the playoffs. " he must be a king, he isn't covered with s:Censor:".

NO SINGING!

[BackNBlack87]

LOL. Exactly. But I bow to your superior knowledge:notworthy no way I could quote it!

I can quote it, but I copy and pasted that one.

[odessapermian.com]

I just don't understand, OP is almost 50% larger than ET why didn't they get more tickets, Where's the fairness in this world? Dang rules - trying to make things equal!!!!!!!

It's Robin Hood 2

Permian's actual enrollment isn't 50% larger than ET's, no matter what the UIL says. But that's a discussion for another thread. Fact is, both teams get the opportunity to sell half the tickets by noon Friday. If you don't sell out your ticket options, they go back and are available to any and all comers.

[sa panther]

I realize it is not a blockbuster double-header, but after the OP/ET game, they play the "All-Time Mascot" game between a couple of top five ranked 1-A schools.

The No. 2 ranked Roscoe Plowboys take on the No. 4 ranked Munday Moguls at Shotwell. I'm sure a bunch of of West Texas folks will make a day of it.

[KattTx]

I realize it is not a blockbuster double-header, but after the OP/ET game, they play the "All-Time Mascot" game between a couple of top five ranked 1-A schools.

The No. 2 ranked Roscoe Plowboys take on the No. 4 ranked Munday Moguls at Shotwell. I'm sure a bunch of of West Texas folks will make a day of it.

I actually know several of our fans are going to stay and catch this game. Who's favored?

[jbusch]

Permian's actual enrollment isn't 50% larger than ET's, no matter what the UIL says. But that's a discussion for another thread. Fact is, both teams get the opportunity to sell half the tickets by noon Friday. If you don't sell out your ticket options, they go back and are available to any and all comers.
Dang, another conspiracy by the UIL - incorrect enrollment #'s

Boy, OP just never gets its' due!!

[jdlewallen]

Dang, another conspiracy by the UIL - incorrect enrollment #'s

Boy, OP just never gets its' due!!

LOL...no, it's just that they count freshmen for enrollment numbers, but our freshmen are on the junior high campuses. I know, we have an idiotic setup....K-6 elementary, 7-9 Jr high, and 10-12 HS.

[youtellatale]

Personally, I'd take Munday in the game on Saturday...they have a great offense and a solid defense. Plus, for those of you that don't know this already: AHS RB Keithy Flye is from Munday, transfered after his freshman year. He's torn it up at the 5A level, imagine him against the 1A boys.

[jbusch]

LOL...no, it's just that they count freshmen for enrollment numbers, but our freshmen are on the junior high campuses. I know, we have a ******** setup....K-6 elementary, 7-9 Jr high, and 10-12 HS.


Trojan fans help me , I probably am wrong but I think we have the same set up.

[KattTx]

Personally, I'd take Munday in the game on Saturday...they have a great offense and a solid defense. Plus, for those of you that don't know this already: AHS RB Keithy Flye is from Munday, transfered after his freshman year. He's torn it up at the 5A level, imagine him against the 1A boys.

Thanks!! I love smaller classification football but rarely get to see it. The most fun I had at one I did see was when my nephew played for Sanderson and they played for the 6man State Championship in San Angelo several years ago. It was like basketball with turf and no dribbling. Score...score...score!!!

[KattTx]

Trojan fans help me , I probably am wrong but I think we have the same set up.

Oh, I hope not. It completely stinks to have our freshmen still in junior high. I was told (not sure how accurate the info is) that we (Ector County ISD) are the only 5A size ISD with this set up.

[odessapermian.com]

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[odessapermian.com]

Trojan fans help me , I probably am wrong but I think we have the same set up.


06-07 enrollment (latest #s available) was 2,168 for Trinity HS, grades 10-12.

Permian had 2,061 grades 10-12.

These are actual numbers of kids on campus. You can find numbers for any school by going here- http://www.tea.state.tx.us/perfreport/aeis/2007/index.html
Click on the Campus Report tab, then go from there.

[odessapermian.com]

So, anyone have an idea on how many tickets Trinity has sold?

[jdlewallen]

Oh, I hope not. It completely stinks to have our freshmen still in junior high. I was told (not sure how accurate the info is) that we (Ector County ISD) are the only 5A size ISD with this set up.

We're the only one that still uses the junior high model, with 6th graders still on elementary campuses. The rest of the state has moved to the middle school model, which is MUCH better for the kids. But we can't move to that, because too many people out here say, "BUT we've always done it this way...":rolleyes:

The freshmen are another issue. we would either have to reopen Ector as a high school or find a way to get a different third high school (over the Ector advocates' objections)....I know our campus at PHS is crammed pretty full already, and there is just no way to add the freshman to the campus at the moment.

The other option would be freshman campuses....

[jbusch]

06-07 enrollment (latest #s available) was 2,168 for Trinity HS, grades 10-12.

Permian had 2,061 grades 10-12.

the #'s I have from the UIL web site are 2765.07 ( yep .07) for ET and 4027.9 for OP.

I wonder how they reached those? what a mess

[odessapermian.com]

the #'s I have from the UIL web site are 2765.07 ( yep .07) for ET and 4027.9 for OP.

I wonder how they reached those? what a mess

They have formulas. In our case, they lump numbers in from an alternative campus and a vocational school, then multiply that by 1.33 to guesstimate how many freshmen are in the junior highs.

The numbers from the UIL are derived for seeding purposes only. They often have nothing to do with actual students on the high school campus.

[jdlewallen]

the #'s I have from the UIL web site are 2765.07 ( yep .07) for ET and 4027.9 for OP.

I wonder how they reached those? what a mess

UIL includes off-campus freshmen from feeder schools...

TEA number includes actual students on campus...

[Soonertransplant]

[quote=jdlewallen;672921]We're the only one that still uses the junior high model, with 6th graders still on elementary campuses. The rest of the state has moved to the middle school model, which is MUCH better for the kids. [quote]

You are NOT alone. Our district, too, still uses the 7-9 junior high model, K-6 elementary, 10-12 high school. Polls and studies have been conducted in the past 5 years whether to move to the middle school, 9-12 high schools, and all 3 communities comprising the district have elected to maintain the status quo. Trinity has 2 main feeder jr. highs, and a few students from a 3rd.

[jdlewallen]

[quote=jdlewallen;672921]We're the only one that still uses the junior high model, with 6th graders still on elementary campuses. The rest of the state has moved to the middle school model, which is MUCH better for the kids. [quote]

You are NOT alone. Our district, too, still uses the 7-9 junior high model, K-6 elementary, 10-12 high school. Polls and studies have been conducted in the past 5 years whether to move to the middle school, 9-12 high schools, and all 3 communities comprising the district have elected to maintain the status quo. Trinity has 2 main feeder jr. highs, and a few students from a 3rd.

Don't know if I should be glad we're not alone or feel sorry for y'all, too! :p

Glad we're not the only ones with locals who don't like change and won't fix it for the kids...but they're the ones at the disadvantage....drives me nuts, personally....

[mojotrain]

I'm lost on all the fat pig talk. And I spent 11 years in West Texas.

This indicates how far you metroplex guys have strayed from your roots. This saying originated in the farming area between Arlington and Fort Worth. Farmers have Pigs or hogs. Normally in the spring the young boars were trapped and penned in order to sporterize them. So they would not get skinny chasing the girl pigs. Why? So they could get fat and bring more at market in the fall. When this was done a special ointment, purple in color was dobbed on the cut to prevent worms and ect. These young pigs would weight up to around 30 lbs and could be attended to by the farmer and his wife or a young son. Hence it would be "a easy cut." on skinny pigs. Every now and then you would miss a young pig or you might buy one that missed the early cut. Pigs become hogs rather quickly. But a large uncut hog can tear down fences kill young pigs and just raise hell in general. You take their will to behave in that manner away by cutting them. By this age they are reluctant to give in to the cut. Hogs can get up to above 300 pounds. So you call in all the grown neighbors to assist. You try to put nose rings in their snout to have some means of controlling their head. You try to tie all four feet close together to clear the area to be cut. The heaviest of your help will sit on its head as many as possible will lay across its body. Then you try to do a number on the target. When you release this guy it's every one for himself. It's bloddy on one end and bitey on the other. It's a hell of a load and it would be termed as "cutting a fat pig." It's hard thing to do.

Hope this has helped. I have been in on a undertaking as this in a mucky bottom area between Arlington and Fort Worth in the early 50's. See! you guys have lost the best part of your heritage. Sad, Sad and Sad.:cry

P. S. If you would like to know of a later improved way to perform this task fell free to ask. Not nearly as dangerious or messy. Not at all like "cutting a fat hog".;)

[MOJO94]

Has the game sold out yet?

[slcdragonfan]

This indicates how far you metroplex guys have strayed from your roots. This saying originated in the farming area between Arlington and Fort Worth. Farmers have Pigs or hogs. Normally in the spring the young boars were trapped and penned in order to sporterize them. So they would not get skinny chasing the girl pigs. Why? So they could get fat and bring more at market in the fall. When this was done a special ointment, purple in color was dobbed on the cut to prevent worms and ect. These young pigs would weight up to around 30 lbs and could be attended to by the farmer and his wife or a young son. Hence it would be "a easy cut." on skinny pigs. Every now and then you would miss a young pig or you might buy one that missed the early cut. Pigs become hogs rather quickly. But a large uncut hog can tear down fences kill young pigs and just raise hell in general. You take their will to behave in that manner away by cutting them. By this age they are reluctant to give in to the cut. Hogs can get up to above 300 pounds. So you call in all the grown neighbors to assist. You try to put nose rings in their snout to have some means of controlling their head. You try to tie all four feet close together to clear the area to be cut. The heaviest of your help will sit on its head as many as possible will lay across its body. Then you try to do a number on the target. When you release this guy it's every one for himself. It's bloddy on one end and bitey on the other. It's a hell of a load and it would be termed as "cutting a fat pig." It's hard thing to do.

Hope this has helped. I have been in on a undertaking as this in a mucky bottom area between Arlington and Fort Worth in the early 50's. See! you guys have lost the best part of your heritage. Sad, Sad and Sad.:cry

P. S. If you would like to know of a later improved way to perform this task fell free to ask. Not nearly as dangerous or messy. Not at all like "cutting a fat hog".;)

most excellent explanation, thanks. I really like it, and am going to incorporate it into my vernacular, along with "like a duck after a june bug" and "big hat no ranch" etc. :D If you see me use it, understand there is an implied reference to you mojotrain, with a thanks.

Have you seen the area between Arlington and Ft. Worth lately? It's all growing together. Where I grew up (in Pasadena) it used to be swampy low-lying pasture land. Now it is subdivisions and Clear Lake and the Space Center and factories. But we didn't do any hog cutting, or any kind of cutting. Good luck, just about 38 hours to game time for us. IF any Abilene folks are reading this, stay safe on the roads the next few days, and watch for Dragons @ the stadium :)

[mojotrain]

most excellent explanation, thanks. I really like it, and am going to incorporate it into my vernacular, along with "like a duck after a june bug" and "big hat no ranch" etc. :D If you see me use it, understand there is an implied reference to you mojotrain, with a thanks.

Have you seen the area between Arlington and Ft. Worth lately? It's all growing together. Where I grew up (in Pasadena) it used to be swampy low-lying pasture land. Now it is subdivisions and Clear Lake and the Space Center and factories. But we didn't do any hog cutting, or any kind of cutting. Good luck, just about 38 hours to game time for us. IF any Abilene folks are reading this, stay safe on the roads the next few days, and watch for Dragons @ the stadium :)

Yes all that area was closed in by the early 70's I think.

[mojotrain]

I just don't understand, OP is almost 50% larger than ET why didn't they get more tickets, Where's the fairness in this world? Dang rules - trying to make things equal!!!!!!!

It's Robin Hood 2
We will buy more tickets than ETand we will have more fans in the stadium than ET.

[LGVAg]

If Longview didn't have a game, I'd be there for this one. Good luck to both teams. :notworthy

[da hawaiian]

Trinity's enrollment like all the UIL figures include eligible freshman...even if the freshman attend a JR High

[T's UP 93]

We will buy more tickets than ETand we will have more fans in the stadium than ET.

YOU FOLKS REALLY ARE SUPERIOR TO US!!!!!! I heard yesterday your coach had the nads to ask if OP's band could sit on our side. We are the home team and yaw are visitors. We ain't at Ratliff so I guess you will be on your side! HAKAAAAAAAAA!!

[Boss Hawgette]

Trojan fans help me , I probably am wrong but I think we have the same set up.

You are absolutely correct. Apparently we do have the same set up as Ector County ISD. Speaking of Ector...we have an Ector Dr. Wonder if it's named after the same Ector???

[Boss Hawgette]

You are absolutely correct. Apparently we do have the same set up as Ector County ISD. Speaking of Ector...we have an Ector Dr. Wonder if it's named after the same Ector???

Just figured out the connection...Ector County is named after a Civil War and Texas Military figure, Matthew Duncan Ector if I remember right. In that part of Euless all the streets are named for Texas counties...Dallas, Tarrant, Denton, Van Zant, etc. Maybe we should change the name of the street for tomorrow. ;)

[Trinity75]

Just figured out the connection...Ector County is named after a Civil War and Texas Military figure, Matthew Duncan Ector if I remember right. In that part of Euless all the streets are named for Texas counties...Dallas, Tarrant, Denton, Van Zant, etc. Maybe we should change the name of the street for tomorrow. ;)

Don't forget Trojan Trail. Just kidding this not a county (yet) ;)

[mojotrain]

YOU FOLKS REALLY ARE SUPERIOR TO US!!!!!! I heard yesterday your coach had the nads to ask if OP's band could sit on our side. We are the home team and yaw are visitors. We ain't at Ratliff so I guess you will be on your side! HAKAAAAAAAAA!!


You know what I herd yesterday? Sheep!!!!

Your side will be loaded with Permian fans if you don't bring 8000 of your own.

If our band sits on our side all that means is that 150 more non band Permian Permian fans will it on your side. Your poison, you pick. A 16,000 seat stadium is to seat 16,000. West Texas or Shotwell will not descriminate. Think you can stop it. Try checking Id's at the gate. The band would have been the lesser of two evils. You might just as well came back to Ratliff

[Trinity75]

We will buy more tickets than ETand we will have more fans in the stadium than ET.

We will buy more refreshments than OP and we will have bigger fans in the stadium than OP.

[BigFoot]

This indicates how far you metroplex guys have strayed from your roots. This saying originated in the farming area between Arlington and Fort Worth. Farmers have Pigs or hogs.
Hope this has helped. I have been in on a undertaking as this in a mucky bottom area between Arlington and Fort Worth in the early 50's. See! you guys have lost the best part of your heritage. Sad, Sad and Sad.:cry

P. S. If you would like to know of a later improved way to perform this task fell free to ask. Not nearly as dangerious or messy. Not at all like "cutting a fat hog".;)

I doubt there are very many of the people you are referring to left around here. Most are move ins. As a matter of fact the population of Arlington, Hurst, Euless was not very big back then either. Those who are left probably don't visit this board for sure. Truth is I didn't even know about the HEB area when I was young and I lived in Ft. Worth. Way back then
we didn't travel around much...but then most of these posters are not old folks like us Mojotrain.

[BigFoot]

We will buy more refreshments than OP and we will have bigger fans in the stadium than OP.

Now that is funny...and probably true.

[trojanbacker]

I'm actually ok with straying away from those roots.

[BackNBlack87]

Now that is funny...and probably true.

if they eat the same thing as the kids, then heck yes they will

[mojotrain]

Just figured out the connection...Ector County is named after a Civil War and Texas Military figure, Matthew Duncan Ector if I remember right. In that part of Euless all the streets are named for Texas counties...Dallas, Tarrant, Denton, Van Zant, etc. Maybe we should change the name of the street for tomorrow. ;)

Ok, now From where do we get the name Permian?

[mojotrain]

We will buy more refreshments than OP and we will have bigger fans in the stadium than OP.

Right!

[MOJOLonghorn]

We will buy more refreshments than OP and we will have bigger fans in the stadium than OP.

LOL. You may be right about that. I wish I could convince my wife and Doctor that my weight gain is just a simple competition.

[trojanbacker]

Why would anyone on Trinity's side mind it if some Permian fans sat there? We don't bite and most of us have had our shots and everything.

[mojomachine123]

I don't think we will have that many people there that we will spill over to the Trinity side will we? I did not know we had sold all of our tickets yet? the paper said they were still on sale today.

[slcdragonfan]

I'm actually ok with straying away from those roots.

LOL, yep, I would have to say I am fine with that as well:D

[trojanbacker]

Well, if some of the Permian fans slop over onto our side, that's ok with me......as long as they don't blow an airhon in my ear. I actually enjoy meeting fans from other schools. Fans is fans.

[KattTx]

Ok, now From where do we get the name Permian?

Ooo, ooo, ooo .... I KNOW!!!

[TrojanFan4Life]

We're the only one that still uses the junior high model, with 6th graders still on elementary campuses. The rest of the state has moved to the middle school model, which is MUCH better for the kids. But we can't move to that, because too many people out here say, "BUT we've always done it this way...":rolleyes:

The freshmen are another issue. we would either have to reopen Ector as a high school or find a way to get a different third high school (over the Ector advocates' objections)....I know our campus at PHS is crammed pretty full already, and there is just no way to add the freshman to the campus at the moment.

The other option would be freshman campuses....


Wrong - that is the exact set up here in HEBISD

[KattTx]

Wrong - that is the exact set up here in HEBISD

I sure don't like it being that way here. I sure would like to see our district implementing freshman campus' here. But - no one is calling asking for my opinion at the moment. :o:D

[odessapermian.com]

Why would anyone on Trinity's side mind it if some Permian fans sat there? We don't bite and most of us have had our shots and everything.

After the first game here (30-3 MOJO) some of the Trinity fans were complaining that there were Permian fans sitting on the visitor's side.

[TrojanFan4Life]

I sure don't like it being that way here. I sure would like to see our district implementing freshman campus' here. But - no one is calling asking for my opinion at the moment. :o:D

We had a big committe to study and research the trends - and actually - six graders and freshman benefit from this set up - their scores and grades are higher and they benefit socially as well - I really thought we should change but when you look at the research - you kind of scratch your head and go - Wow really - As an elementary teacher - I often think that sixth graders are maturing faster than I want my children exposed to - but then just think how mature they would get if you put them with 7th and 8th graders.

So needless to say - we are about to embark on building some new elementary schools to help with overcrowding and we are going to keep our current grade alignment for quite awhile.

[mojoguy]

Well, if some of the Permian fans slop over onto our side, that's ok with me......as long as they don't blow an airhon in my ear. I actually enjoy meeting fans from other schools. Fans is fans.

One of the Trinity band parents told me to go sit in the mostly empty elementary school section on the Permian side when I sat on the visitors' side at Ratliff in the same seat I sit in every week because I turned and told an OHS fan to stop being so dadgum negative saying the Permian guys were going to get hurt before the game started. Her kids that were in the band apparently later went to stand in front of a Permian guy with their signs up in the air to block his view. This was discussed in front of me, but I chose to not say anything for fear of being told where to sit at our home stadium again. For the most part, Trinity fans were great, but there were definitely some.... whiners out there that seemed to be very concerned that there were Permian fans on their side of the stadium.

On a similar note, does anyone know if our band is going to be allowed to do their full march around the stadium this week or are they going to have to do the halfway turnaround again? Apparently our band has really ruffled some feathers with other ISD's in the 'Plex.

[jdlewallen]

We had a big committe to study and research the trends - and actually - six graders and freshman benefit from this set up - their scores and grades are higher and they benefit socially as well - I really thought we should change but when you look at the research - you kind of scratch your head and go - Wow really - As an elementary teacher - I often think that sixth graders are maturing faster than I want my children exposed to - but then just think how mature they would get if you put them with 7th and 8th graders.

So needless to say - we are about to embark on building some new elementary schools to help with overcrowding and we are going to keep our current grade alignment for quite awhile.

Hmmm.. Now maybe my memory is rusty, but we went through the same thing about 4 years ago...I guess they must have said we were ONE of the only ones still on the old system....

I taught 6th grade for 10 years, and IMHO, they need to be in the middle school. The state requirements and standards for them are MIDDLE SCHOOL, not elementary, and you have too many "kiddie" stuff disruptions at that level to cover them well. Plus, the maturity thing is an issue: 6th graders do NOT belong on the same campus with 5 & 6 year olds!

The problem for 9th graders is that too many of them don't realize they are IN high school as far as the state is concerned, and you have many who are very immature and blow their year and basically start out short of credits.

The real key is to implement a middle school "system", not just lower the level of junior high. Properly done, a real "middle school" is more like super-charged elementary than a mini- high school. Teaming and closer supervision of the kids and what's going on with them at an individual level are key to them being successful, but too often we don't see it being done properly (usually $$ play a role)....

OK, now that I am TOTALLY O/T..... </Rant></soapbox>

[jdlewallen]

On a similar note, does anyone know if our band is going to be allowed to do their full march around the stadium this week or are they going to have to do the halfway turnaround again? Apparently our band has really ruffled some feathers with other ISD's in the 'Plex.

Nothing new. As a participant in the infamous "Battle of the Bands" in '88 at Texas Stadium, I know that is an old piece of jealousy and anger...lol...

BTW, if you aren't aware of that incident. It was a play-off game - I am pretty sure it was Arlington Lamar . We were marching around the field and the other band intentionally backed up in front of us....me marched on, adjusting and passing through their ranks. Some of their members got a bit physical (started with the percussion), hitting and smacking some of our band members intentionally, including drawing blood from one flaggette. We proceeded on and they went to do the same in the opposite direction, and we met and passed through one another again...same thing, but that time we managed to take out more of them than they did us...:D BUT we never broke ranks or broke stride!!!

I have NEVER in my life seen Charles Nail as mad as he was that day, and he let the other band director know about it.... I think that particular incident was the beginning of the restrictions starting to happen, for SOME reason...lol...

[Trojanman96]

We're the only one that still uses the junior high model, with 6th graders still on elementary campuses. The rest of the state has moved to the middle school model, which is MUCH better for the kids. But we can't move to that, because too many people out here say, "BUT we've always done it this way...":rolleyes:

The freshmen are another issue. we would either have to reopen Ector as a high school or find a way to get a different third high school (over the Ector advocates' objections)....I know our campus at PHS is crammed pretty full already, and there is just no way to add the freshman to the campus at the moment.

The other option would be freshman campuses....

I work in the H.E.B. school district. k-6, 7-9, 10-12

[jbusch]

Nothing new. As a participant in the infamous "Battle of the Bands" in '88 at Texas Stadium, I know that is an old piece of jealousy and anger...lol...

BTW, if you aren't aware of that incident. It was a play-off game - I am pretty sure it was Arlington Lamar . We were marching around the field and the other band intentionally backed up in front of us....me marched on, adjusting and passing through their ranks. Some of their members got a bit physical (started with the percussion), hitting and smacking some of our band members intentionally, including drawing blood from one flaggette. We proceeded on and they went to do the same in the opposite direction, and we met and passed through one another again...same thing, but that time we managed to take out more of them than they did us...:D BUT we never broke ranks or broke stride!!!

I have NEVER in my life seen Charles Nail as mad as he was that day, and he let the other band director know about it.... I think that particular incident was the beginning of the restrictions starting to happen, for SOME reason...lol...


DON"T MESS WITH PERCUSSION - I thought everybody knew that!!!!!!!! It's their nature to beat on things

[trojanbacker]

People really get wound up over a band marching around the track? Amazing.

[jbusch]

People really get wound up over a band marching around the track? Amazing.

Trying to mark their territory - just like preditor animals

[KattTx]

We had a big committe to study and research the trends - and actually - six graders and freshman benefit from this set up - their scores and grades are higher and they benefit socially as well - I really thought we should change but when you look at the research - you kind of scratch your head and go - Wow really - As an elementary teacher - I often think that sixth graders are maturing faster than I want my children exposed to - but then just think how mature they would get if you put them with 7th and 8th graders.

So needless to say - we are about to embark on building some new elementary schools to help with overcrowding and we are going to keep our current grade alignment for quite awhile.

I'm not sure I would want the sixth graders up at the junior high level (strictly from a parent's point of view) and I know I wouldn't want my 9th grader on a campus with 17/18 year olds. I really think 9th grade is that really hard age where you are too old to be a kiddie but not old enough to be with the high schoolers. I like the idea of only taking 9th graders and putting them in their own campus. Other than that - I like the rest of the set up.

I wonder how kids adapt to schools that put 9/10th on one campus and then have a senior high with 11/12. That seems like it would work well.

[Trinity75]

if they eat the same thing as the kids, then heck yes they will

Most schools are worrying about Steroid testing. We are just hoping they don't test our kids for Pork. Man those kids can eat a lot of Pork. Full roasted ones at that. Gotta Love em'

[jdlewallen]

I'm not sure I would want the sixth graders up at the junior high level (strictly from a parent's point of view) and I know I wouldn't want my 9th grader on a campus with 17/18 year olds. I really think 9th grade is that really hard age where you are too old to be a kiddie but not old enough to be with the high schoolers. I like the idea of only taking 9th graders and putting them in their own campus. Other than that - I like the rest of the set up.

I wonder how kids adapt to schools that put 9/10th on one campus and then have a senior high with 11/12. That seems like it would work well.

I think Plano does that...don't know how well it works, though....

[jdlewallen]

Most schools are worrying about Steroid testing. We are just hoping they don't test our kids for Pork. Man those kids can eat a lot of Pork. Full roasted ones at that. Gotta Love em'

:laugh:laugh

[MOJO94]

After the first game here (30-3 MOJO) some of the Trinity fans were complaining that there were Permian fans sitting on the visitor's side.I was over on the ET side so I could see the HAKA. Some drunk guy next to me was telling everyone how good of a coach he was. That was prob. the fan they were talking about.

[mojo61]

Ooo, ooo, ooo .... I KNOW!!!


No, no; call on me, call on me----I want to answer that one!

[Boss Hawgette]

Trying to mark their territory - just like preditor animals

as long as they don't pee, I'm good. :D

[Boss Hawgette]

Hmmm.. Now maybe my memory is rusty, but we went through the same thing about 4 years ago...I guess they must have said we were ONE of the only ones still on the old system....

I taught 6th grade for 10 years, and IMHO, they need to be in the middle school. The state requirements and standards for them are MIDDLE SCHOOL, not elementary, and you have too many "kiddie" stuff disruptions at that level to cover them well. Plus, the maturity thing is an issue: 6th graders do NOT belong on the same campus with 5 & 6 year olds!

The problem for 9th graders is that too many of them don't realize they are IN high school as far as the state is concerned, and you have many who are very immature and blow their year and basically start out short of credits.

The real key is to implement a middle school "system", not just lower the level of junior high. Properly done, a real "middle school" is more like super-charged elementary than a mini- high school. Teaming and closer supervision of the kids and what's going on with them at an individual level are key to them being successful, but too often we don't see it being done properly (usually $$ play a role)....

OK, now that I am TOTALLY O/T..... </Rant></soapbox>

Wow, as someone who is looking to get into education, that was really enlightening. First time I feel smarter after reading a message board. Thanks!

[farmerfan]

I got my ticket thanks to some great ET friends of mine. Can't wait. We're leaving town around 8 tomorrow morning. This game is keeping me at home tonight and will have me in bed early. :eek: