You're fired (Region 1)

[lonny23]

This is the you're fired thread for Region 1. I'll explain why these teams are eliminated and can turn in their cleats NOW!

[lonny23]

EP Coronado. They look good on paper, but got blown out by Midland. They don't cover the spread and might be a first round victim, but probably out by Week 12.

[lonny23]

EP Franklin. Still the best of EP and may win a playoff game. Got beat by L Coronado and played NM teams. They cover the spread, but not fast enough for the playoffs.

[lonny23]

EP Montwood. Couldn't beat Plainview or Permian. Middle of the road in town and probably won't get to playoffs.

[lonny23]

EP Socorro. Beats weak teams and lower classes. Can't beat the good teams in town and out of the playoffs.

[lonny23]

EP Americas. Can't beat NM and can't win in district. Hope the basketball team is good!

[lonny23]

EP Bel Air. Lost 5 in a row and that might turn into 8. Might be worst team in district.

[lonny23]

EP Eastwood. Up and down, but mostly down. Even lost to a 4A team and that's always bad.

[lonny23]

EP Hanks. Nothing special, but might get the last playoff spot. They won't do much with it and will probably be 1 and done.

[lonny23]

Amarillo Tascosa. Played a bunch of 4A schools and lost to some of them. Won't have much for district.

[lonny23]

Lubbock has 3 strikes against them. They lost bad to Permian, they lost to 4A twice, and they lost to a bad team in district. No playoffs.

[Favpack]

Mark my words - you'll see qb's and wr's galore making all state out of El Paso - sorry, but that just ain't right. No way those guys hang with Kilgore and Marshall (4A) over here in East Texas.

[lonny23]

Lubbock Coronado. Lost the first 5, but won last week. Might make the playoffs, but won't last past Week 12.

[lonny23]

Lubbock Monterey. Too inconsistent and one good win over Midland does not make up for a lot of bad play. Gone by Week 12 at the latest.

[lonny23]

San Angelo Central. Nice schedule, but they're lucky to not play in the Little SWC anymore since they all beat SAC this year! Wins over Big Spring don't count! :D If they do play on, Gone early.

[lonny23]

Abilene Cooper. Didn't beat bad teams by enough points and last week's loss to M Lee ensures no playoffs.

[lonny23]

M Lee. Probably makes the playoffs, but has too many losses. They can win a few games, but won't run with the big boys.

[lonny23]

Odessa. Like always, the chump schedule gives way to 3-5A losses.

[lonny23]

Odessa Permian. Gooe enough to pound bad teams, but can't compete against good teams. That's playoff disaster if they beat out M Lee.

[lonny23]

Burleson. Won a few nice games, but mostly lost to better teams. Probably no playoffs.

[lonny23]

FW Paschal. Boy, they lost some bad games. The 0-6 teams helped them. It seems like the last time a FW school was good, I was in diapers! :D

[lonny23]

Saginaw Boswell. The normal automatic strikes. Lost to a 4A team and lost to the good teams. I always eliminate those guys.

[lonny23]

Granbury. Lost to 3 4A teams and 0-6. That's elimination!

[lonny23]

Mansfield. They got better after the first 2 losses and they beat N Crowley. I'll take them off the list if they play Summit tough. Outside shot to beat 3-5A in playoffs.

[lonny23]

Weatherford. Didn't win games by enough points and got beat by Summit too bad.

[lonny23]

Colleyville Heritage. I kept them in until they lost it vs. SLC. Last week was a continuation of their demise.

[lonny23]

D Ryan. Didn't win by large enough margins. Showed they aren't big-time vs. SLC.

[pack0808]

Did you notice he did a new post for basically each team instead of putting it in one. Looks like he is determined to catch d08?? ;)

[lonny23]

FW Haltom. You can't stay on my list if you lose by 62 points. I don't care who you play and I bet that game affects them for a while.

[lonny23]

FW Richland. Losers of 4 in a row and 6 of 7. That won't keep you around. They did eliminate DR with their close loss last week.

[lonny23]

Grapevine. May make playoffs, but won't make waves. Losing to DR seals their fate.

[lonny23]

Keller. These guys are falling apart. No reason to keep them around with losses mounting.

[lonny23]

K Fossil Ridge. Doesn't come close to competing against good teams. I won't keep those teams around, but they might make playoffs.

[lonny23]

Coppell. Fell apart, but playing better now. It still doesn't change they can't beat good to great teams.

[lonny23]

Grand Prairie. 0-6 and a 61 point loss. Not encouraging for the home team!

[lonny23]

Hurst Bell. Beat an 0-6 team and Irving without Evans. That's nothing.

[bleedgreen]

Lonny---love the analysis, brother, but......El Paso, Ft. Worth, Granbury, Keller, Haltom--etc...........it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that these teams are "fired".....don't know much about any of those listed(except for 3-5A), but i could have told you the same thing about these teams.................

[lonny23]

Irving. Never got better and entering hard part of schedule. Won't make the playoffs and I finally gave up on the stud player factor helping.

[lonny23]

Irving Nimitz. Losing too many games now. They can't beat Chester Nimitz! :D

[lonny23]

Lonny---love the analysis, brother, but......El Paso, Ft. Worth, Granbury, Keller, Haltom--etc...........it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that these teams are "fired".....don't know much about any of those listed(except for 3-5A), but i could have told you the same thing about these teams.................
Hey, everybody gets a little look from me this year. I have to be fair to the whole state!

[lonny23]

A Sam Houston. They're 0-6. Can they beat the statue? ;)

[lonny23]

A Bowie. The way they're losing, it might be an 0-10 year. They also lost to 4A.

[lonny23]

A Lamar. I never expected a fall this hard. Only beat two 0-6 teams. Not the worst team in district, but not close to the past success.

[lonny23]

A (Steve) Martin. These guys are a joke. The whole town is bad after years of success.

[lonny23]

Cedar Hill. On the way down and probably misses the playoffs.

[lonny23]

DeSoto. Has a chance to run the table in the next 4. Pre-district says they won't beat real good teams in the playoffs.

[lonny23]

Duncanville. What happended to the good 'ol days. Looks like they're getting worse as the weeks go by. That's not good.

[mad_fan]

So just for clarification, who's fault is it? :mad: :D

[lonny23]

Allen. When you lose to the 2 best teams you play and one of them beats you by 38 points, you'll see yourself on this list everytime. Nobody should beat you by 38 if you're a real good team.

[lonny23]

The Colony. They're 0-6, not scoring and need to go back to The Drawing Board! :p

[lonny23]

So just for clarification, who's fault is it? :mad: :D
MADISON'S FAULT! :D

It's going to be Madison's fault Judson beats them so bad next week. :D :p

[lonny23]

FM Marcus. I kept giving them chances, but they were so up and down. The Flower Mound loss sealed it for me.

[dragonsdaddy]

way to pad the post counts, lonny. too bad there aren't more 5-a teams. you'll catch up soon with this technique. maybe you ought to repost after every sentence from now on.

[lonny23]

Lewisville. Sawyer Brown says farming doesn't play and neither does playing football for these guys! :D They did beat The Colony in the Toilet Bowl game last week.

[lonny23]

way to pad the post counts, lonny. too bad there aren't more 5-a teams. you'll catch up soon with this technique. maybe you ought to repost after every sentence from now on.
I wouldn't ever do anything like that. I wanted to say something about all the teams since we leave off so many of them each year.

[mad_fan]

MADISON'S FAULT! :D

It's going to be Madison's fault Judson beats them so bad next week. :D :p


Oh, thought you were already blaming them for being the Div I rep... :eek: :p

[lonny23]

Plano East. Maybe I shouldn't discount them so fast, but they're up and down. I just don't think they can be consistent enough to win games in the playoffs. The last few games might show me something with these guys.

[lonny23]

Plano West. They should change the team name to Plano South because that's where their season is going! It looks like the Plano loss took a lot of out them in their follow-up loss to Plano East. I look to see how a team reacts to a tough loss to gauge how they might do in a playoff setting where you suck it up in tough times to grind out a win.

[lonny23]

Oh, thought you were already blaming them for being the Div I rep... :eek: :p
They get the 26-5A Badge of Honor. 4th Place and no playoffs! :D

[lonny23]

Did you notice he did a new post for basically each team instead of putting it in one. Looks like he is determined to catch d08?? ;)
There's too much info to put stuff in the same post. I wanted to separate stuff so we could discuss specific teams. I do long posts, but I don't like them as much because I can generate conversation quicker this way.

[lonny23]

Mark my words - you'll see qb's and wr's galore making all state out of El Paso - sorry, but that just ain't right. No way those guys hang with Kilgore and Marshall (4A) over here in East Texas.
I was majorly upset that Edward Britton was All-State at RB last year when Kyle Fox was out there. The WR's being All-State are a joke. I've been in EP during football seaon and they're insular to the rest of the state and the different time zone doesn't help. They're closer to LA than Dallas and they're Texas only in name. They do like the Cowboys, though.

It all comes down to the local paper guys pushing the hometown boys instead of who deserves it. They'd have to watch other teams to vote for them. The AP Poll rolls the same way as the All-State team.

[mad_fan]

They get the 26-5A Badge of Honor. 4th Place and no playoffs! :D

If that were to happen (which it won't) you won't have mad_fan to kick around anymore... :mad: ;I'll trade in my Orange jersey for the year and you won't know who I am lurking around the board... :p

[lonny23]

If that were to happen (which it won't) you won't have mad_fan to kick around anymore... :mad: ;I'll trade in my Orange jersey for the year and you won't who I am lurking around the board... :p
I want to know what happened to MavsFan55. Did I run her off? I enjoyed her presence even when we were fighting! :D

[dragonsdaddy]

There's too much info to put stuff in the same post. I wanted to separate stuff so we could discuss specific teams. I do long posts, but I don't like them as much because I can generate conversation quicker this way.
and you only get the one post added to your count the other way. don't think you're fooling us hof'ers.

[MHS_Ram]

Being a person that lives and plays ball in El Paso, you'd think I'd disagree with what is being said about players making All-State out of here, but for the most part your right. The WR's and such are for the most part not good enough to get that award, maybe an honorable mention sometimes. I do think that Edward Britton was a legitimate All-Stater, best RB to come out of here in a long time. As to whether he should have been a first team, second team, or whatever I cannot say but I do believe he deserved All-State.

[lonny23]

and you only get the one post added to your count the other way. don't think you're fooling us hof'ers.
Of course, I hate all the work adding one post the other way. You know how much work I put into the stuff I say here.

[BandidoNB]

Lewisville. Sawyer Brown says farming doesn't play and neither does playing football for these guys! :D They did beat The Colony in the Toilet Bowl game last week.

This is a real bowl game? Why?!

[lonny23]

This is a real bowl game? Why?!
Neither team had a win going into that game! :D

[lonny23]

OK, here is my cuts for this week. 6 more teams get fired and that leaves 6 teams who haven't been fired (Abilene, Midland, SLC, E Trinity, SGP, and Plano).

By the way, there are 41 teams left with more cuts at the end of the week.

Just like last week:

[lonny23]

Amarillo is outta here. I know they keep winning, but the power rating is down, the district is weak, and I think that Midland loss is telling. I'm looking at potential playoff matchups now and I say they won't get out of Round 2.

[lonny23]

No more Mansfield Summit. They'll probably win district, but I don't see them being a D1 threat this year. Bi-District is even a tossup for me.

[lonny23]

North Crowley. I haven't seen the improvement during the year I'm looking for. That was a bad loss a few weeks ago. I sure don't see them winning in Bi-District.

[lonny23]

Irving MacArthur. They keep winning close games and you need that in the playoffs. I have the sneaky suspicion that they lose when they play somebody better than them.

[lonny23]

Arlington. The Colts won't get it done. They just aren't playing good enough right now and that loss to Cedar Hill was the final straw.

[lonny23]

Flower Mound. The wins haven't been big enough and they have 2 losses to mid-level teams. That's not a good sign.

[lonny23]

Midland. At the end of the day, I don't see you beating Abilene or Plano.

[lonny23]

Mansfield Summit. Hey, you might lose in Bi-District, but you'll sure lose in the quarterfinals.

[lonny23]

South Grande Prairie. You can't lose 3-0 and expect to beat Top 10 teams in the playoffs.

[lonny23]

EP Franklin. Still the best of EP and may win a playoff game. Got beat by L Coronado and played NM teams. They cover the spread, but not fast enough for the playoffs.
Hey, they got 2.

[lonny23]

EP Bel Air. Lost 5 in a row and that might turn into 8. Might be worst team in district.
3-way tie for last in district.

[lonny23]

Lubbock has 3 strikes against them. They lost bad to Permian, they lost to 4A twice, and they lost to a bad team in district. No playoffs.
My grandkids might have grandkids the next time they make the playoffs. Can I fire them for 2006 now?:p

[lonny23]

Lubbock Coronado. Lost the first 5, but won last week. Might make the playoffs, but won't last past Week 12.
2-8 year ended in Week 10.

[lonny23]

San Angelo Central. Nice schedule, but they're lucky to not play in the Little SWC anymore since they all beat SAC this year! Wins over Big Spring don't count! :D If they do play on, Gone early.
Like in Week 11!:D

[lonny23]

Burleson. Won a few nice games, but mostly lost to better teams. Probably no playoffs.
No playoffs.

[lonny23]

D Ryan. Didn't win by large enough margins. Showed they aren't big-time vs. SLC.
I called this one early on.

[lonny23]

A Sam Houston. They're 0-6. Can they beat the statue? ;)
After an 0-10 season, the statue might win!:p

[lonny23]

Cedar Hill. On the way down and probably misses the playoffs.
They lasted 1 week in the playoffs. They ended the year hot.

[lonny23]

Allen. When you lose to the 2 best teams you play and one of them beats you by 38 points, you'll see yourself on this list everytime. Nobody should beat you by 38 if you're a real good team.
In their defense, they aren't bad, but I knew they wouldn't last long with the way SLC always beats them.

[lonny23]

Lewisville. Sawyer Brown says farming doesn't play and neither does playing football for these guys! :D They did beat The Colony in the Toilet Bowl game last week.
This post is dedicated to Farmerfan!:p

[lonny23]

Amarillo is outta here. I know they keep winning, but the power rating is down, the district is weak, and I think that Midland loss is telling. I'm looking at potential playoff matchups now and I say they won't get out of Round 2.
Over in Round 2.

[lonny23]

No more Mansfield Summit. They'll probably win district, but I don't see them being a D1 threat this year. Bi-District is even a tossup for me.
The funny thing is I liked them a little more later in the year, but they still got beat in Round 2 by EP Franklin.

[lonny23]

Irving MacArthur. They keep winning close games and you need that in the playoffs. I have the sneaky suspicion that they lose when they play somebody better than them.
Does SLC qualify as better than them?:D

[lonny23]

Midland. At the end of the day, I don't see you beating Abilene or Plano.
Ding-ding-ding!

I'll be fair and report that I later said they'd beat Abilene.

[lonny23]

South Grande Prairie. You can't lose 3-0 and expect to beat Top 10 teams in the playoffs.
OK, they lost to a Top 10 team in the playoffs, but they did beat a Top 10 team during the year. I rehired them later on.

[RocklandDragon]

My grandkids might have grandkids the next time they make the playoffs. Can I fire them for 2006 now?:p

NO!!!!!!

Damn, at least let some games play out! :eek: Lubbock High should at least challenge for a spot this year.

At least I hope they do.

[lonny23]

NO!!!!!!

Damn, at least let some games play out! :eek: Lubbock High should at least challenge for a spot this year.

At least I hope they do.
I saw you posted and knew what it would be about!:D No, I won't fire anybody until some games have passed.

[Slim-Rob]

3-way tie for last in district.

HE'S AT IT AGAIN. SOMEBODY STOP HIM :D

[mustangs9]

shows how much he knows..he puts fossil ridge in 5a but are in 4a?..

[lonny23]

shows how much he knows..he puts fossil ridge in 5a but are in 4a?..
They were in 5A last year. This thread was about last year.

[lonny23]

HE'S AT IT AGAIN. SOMEBODY STOP HIM :D
I'm done.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Coppell. Fell apart, but playing better now. It still doesn't change they can't beat good to great teams.


ouch...we beat duncanville two years ago

[lonny23]

ouch...we beat duncanville two years ago
I was talking about last year and how you guys play against SLC.

[dragonsdaddy]

I was talking about last year and how you guys play against SLC.
now lonny, that's not a short list, of teams that haven't done well vs slc.

[lonny23]

now lonny, that's not a short list, of teams that haven't done well vs slc.
You don't have to actually beat SLC, but I'm sure not going to let teams stay around that lose to them by 30 or 40. The quickest way to get fired by me is to lose to a Top 10 team by 30 or more points. That tells me you won't make it.

[dragonsdaddy]

dr had a fairly big loss in 04 on espn and were able to get to the final 8. i'd have to say that losing by 30 to slc is less of an issue than losing to churchill by 14.

[lonny23]

dr had a fairly big loss in 04 on espn and were able to get to the final 8. i'd have to say that losing by 30 to slc is less of an issue than losing to churchill by 14.
Losing to Churchill was a good thing for a couple teams. One played for a title and the other got to the semis.

As far as DR goes, they would've been fired in 2004 if I was firing that year. They weren't going to beat SLC. That doesn't make them bad, but it does get them fired on my threads.

[dragonfootballfan]

Losing to Churchill was a good thing for a couple teams. One played for a title and the other got to the semis.

As far as DR goes, they would've been fired in 2004 if I was firing that year. They weren't going to beat SLC. That doesn't make them bad, but it does get them fired on my threads.
Lonny your firing logic does not make any sense and I don't think that I will ever figure it out.

[lonny23]

Lonny your firing logic does not make any sense and I don't think that I will ever figure it out.
It's very simple. I fired a team if they had no chance to make the semifinals in my opinion. I had to believe you stood a chance to win your region. I started with the worst teams who stood no chance to make the playoffs, but I also picked off the teams that just couldn't beat the good teams. Over a 6-7 week period, I separated the contenders from the pretenders. I tried to be patient and not have to change my mind later on, but I did reverse my decision on a few teams.

Many of the decisions were easy. I knew early on that Dallas Carter was the only DISD school that could do any damage in the playoffs, but I had my doubts about them, too. I know each school has different goals based upon where they are as a program, but everybody wants to win a title. I just try to separate who has a chance from who doesn't have a chance. SLC is the champs so I'll use them. Some teams CAN beat SLC on the Dragons worst day, but many can't. Those who can't beat them get fired pretty quickly. Teams got fired because they couldn't beat Judson, SV, Westfield/North Shore, Katy, Lufkin, Trinity, and SLC. As good as Cove was last year, I fired them because they didn't keep getting better and I couldn't see them beating Lufkin in the playoffs.