people please!!!!!

[bleedgreen]

Longview and SLC fans arguing over stupid things---how old are all of you??? please get off of this dogging session between 2 schools---you sound like a bunch of kids.....i will laugh my a$$ off when neither school makes it to this "fantasy" game that everyone is wagering on......alot of season to go..why are we discussing state titles right now??? forget SLC, Rockwall should be the focus for us........dragonfootballfan---keep dogging a program like ours---makes you look even more ignorant than you already are.....you may be eating crow before it's all over...goes for the big mouthed Longview fans out there, as well..................

[Favpack]

Most of 'em are kids Bleed. Except this new dude JoeC from Longview - he's kinda out there too. There'd be a lot of green bloods out there if you do meet up with SLC.

[bleedgreen]

you notice that these "new" Lobo fans are crawling out of the cracks now???? these are the types of fans giving this town a bad reputation for being conceited big-mouths!! i've been there the WHOLE time for my team--through thick and thin......it's just really getting ridiculous!

[Phoenixrising05]

I 2nd this!!! I tried to start a netural thread to shut everyone up but to no avail...this is getting really old. Can't wait till the playoffs...

[TheDuke]

Alot of kids are on the site now and most of them have attitudes. I know there are a few Woodz fans who I have gone round & round with the last 2 weeks! :mad:

[bleedgreen]

yea, Duke---it's like the Hall of Famers VS the rookies......sad thing is, i'm arguing with my own fans who i probably sit with every friday night???

[TheDuke]

yea, Duke---it's like the Hall of Famers VS the rookies......sad thing is, i'm arguing with my own fans who i probably sit with every friday night???


I know how you feel bro, I thought I was gonna have a melt down last week on some kid who wouldn't leave me alone! HE WAS A WOODZ FAN!!

[dragonsdaddy]

i'm betting you may sit on the same side, but not with them at all.

[GTown02]

you notice that these "new" Lobo fans are crawling out of the cracks now???? these are the types of fans giving this town a bad reputation for being conceited big-mouths!! i've been there the WHOLE time for my team--through thick and thin......it's just really getting ridiculous!
There are a lot of fans like that... just gotta get used to it... Ive gone through some tough seasons with the Owls... the 3-7 season in 01' and the 45-0 blowout at the hands of Longview in 02' and i'm glad to have watched them :)... even though I dont want to relive that blowout too often. :D

True fans stick with their team for the ups and the downs...

[stevefoxsc]

Most of them are just getting High of there Rating's

[dragons08]

im a kid, as most of you know, but me and BigArab had i guess you can call it a lil arugment, over something stupid, we fixed it, now were cool, it seems its a couple longview fans like you said going at it with eachother, it seems the dragon fans, are standing as one..for the most part

[RP-3]

you notice that these "new" Lobo fans are crawling out of the cracks now???? these are the types of fans giving this town a bad reputation for being conceited big-mouths!! i've been there the WHOLE time for my team--through thick and thin......it's just really getting ridiculous!

Though I don't post much, I am a LOBO fan, class of '86, and Mr. Bleedgreen I agree with you 100%. I like reading your post because you say things I would like to say but since I am not a "VETERAN" on this board, just found it this summer, what I say don't carry much weight but your post do. So keep posting for the TRUE LOBO fans, that know it has to happen on the FIELD and not on the forums. Good Job Man.

[TheDuke]

Here is a post from a kid that just happened!! See what I mean??


COESMIFF07 (hint 07, another kid)


"look dukie,

i have a life. i can't be on here all day like you. #1 had one good play. count it...ONE good play. he ran the opening kickoff back. his other carries were for negative yards.

now, between me and you...suck my duke"

REAL CLASSY HUH GUYS?

[stevefoxsc]

lol that could be ur knew thing to say to kids YA KNOW WHAT SUCK MY DUKE

[TheDuke]

lol that could be ur knew thing to say to kids YA KNOW WHAT SUCK MY DUKE

NICE!!!! MY NEW SAYING!! LOL!!!

[Arazorback]

Why are you guys fighting over 2nd place? Anyone with any smarts know that Trinity is the best team in Texas this year. ;)

[stevefoxsc]

lol razor u just lite the wick you gona have some SLC fan's shoot off OMG DUDE WE PWNZOR EVERY BODY WERE NUMBER 1 IN THE NATION WERE FROM SLC NO ONE CAN STOP US BRUHAHAHA lol but oh well what would the board be with out such hostile people

[dragons08]

Why are you guys fighting over 2nd place? Anyone with any smarts know that Trinity is the best team in Texas this year. ;)
lets not start this again..

[Red Raiders]

lets not start this again..

Haha yea true, I am also a kid too.

[dragons08]

lol razor u just lite the wick you gona have some SLC fan's shoot off OMG DUDE WE PWNZOR EVERY BODY WERE NUMBER 1 IN THE NATION WERE FROM SLC NO ONE CAN STOP US BRUHAHAHA lol but oh well what would the board be with out such hostile people
hmm, i beg to differ with your comment about slc fans, i dont know if you notice, but most of us say the polls mean nothing, rather a state championship then a mythical national one, also we critize our team when ever they dont play liek themselves(plano east game), its acuttaly people that dont live in southlake that are all on the SLC Sucks and is Overrated/SLC is awesome Number 1 team cant be beaten, please dont make comments like that if you dont know what we acuttaly say

[BAMF cowboy]

it's true. if you look through all the threads i think you'll rarely find a cocky southlake fan to that degree. of course we do have a certain arrogance about us...posting messages with a big grin on our faces when we post them. :D <<< something like that

[stevefoxsc]

hmm, i beg to differ with your comment about slc fans, i dont know if you notice, but most of us say the polls mean nothing, rather a state championship then a mythical national one, also we critize our team when ever they dont play liek themselves(plano east game), its acuttaly people that dont live in southlake that are all on the SLC Sucks and is Overrated/SLC is awesome Number 1 team cant be beaten, please dont make comments like that if you dont know what we acuttaly say

By we i hope you mean you, sarcasim you can have this for only 6 payments of $1.00 + shipping and handling No C.O.D's

[dragons08]

By we i hope you mean you, sarcasim you can have this for only 6 payments of $1.00 + shipping and handling No C.O.D's
i dont comprehend what your saying by this, can you rephase it please

[green wave]

bleedgreen i know what you are saying we need to worry about district play and taking one game at a time. besides what's not to say that longview or slc have a key injury or just get beat before either one of us make that far in the playoffs. this is getting a little old

[SLCDad]

Why are you guys fighting over 2nd place? Anyone with any smarts know that Trinity is the best team in Texas this year. ;)I posted this on another board, perhaps it helps respond to your comment.

A few statistics:

Points scored per game: SLC 53.0, Trinity 51.5.
Points allowed per game: SLC 18.0, Trinity 15.5.
Average Margin of victory: SLC 35, Trinity 36

Offensively, SLC is much more balanced between run (47%) and pass (53%) while Trinity is predominately run (70%) compared to pass (30%) (based on yards). SLC gains 566 yards per game while Trinity gains 493 yards per game.

Defensively they give up about the same yards, SLC 284, Trinity 282. Both teams score FAST which results in more yards allowed.

Net SLC is out gaining their opponents by 282 yards per game while Trinity is out gaining their opponents by 211 yards due entirely to SLC's higher offensive yards.

Trinity has a slightly stronger schedule with a power rating of +3 over SLC's schedule. Trinity's opponents have a 30-30 record while SLC's opponents are 29-31. Neither schedule is great but not bad either.

Current Jerry's power ratings (not voted rankings) have SLC at #1 and Trinity at #4 in Texas.

Trinity is 32% larger with 2,926 students compared to SLC's 2,213 students.

The bottom line is that a game between Trinity and SLC this year would probably go down to the wire. Personally, I would give the edge to SLC due to SLC's greater playoff experience, the fact that SLC is much more balanced, and SLC is playing (today) better than at ANY time in the last 3 years (in my opinion).

Any honest fan, however, must admit that a game between these two INCREDIBLE teams is really to close to call. I would LOVE two see a D1 and a D2 state champ from NE Tarrant County this year. I would rather see that than either SLC or Trinity knocked out in round 1 in D1.

[green wave]

yes it would be a good game but there still alot of football to play before anyone gets that far. one game at a time

[SLCDad]

yes it would be a good game but there still alot of football to play before anyone gets that far. one game at a timeYep, exactly. I thought it was interesting how close the two schools are statistically.

[green wave]

yeah they are on paper and that looks nice but once the teams meet on the feild you can throw all the stats out the window because that won't mean anything on the field

[Redneckn]

I posted this on another board, perhaps it helps respond to your comment.

A few statistics:

Points scored per game: SLC 33.0, Trinity 68.5.
Points allowed per game: SLC 28.0, Trinity 1.5.
Average Margin of victory: SLC 35, Trinity 86

Offensively: Trinity is about 70% better than SLC compared to Longview's 30%. SLC gains 166 yards per game while Trinity gains 693 yards per game.

Defensively they give up: SLC 884, Trinity 82. Both Trinity and Longview score fast, so we should go ahead and give them the trophy.

Current Jerry's power ratings (not voted rankings) have SLC at #1 and Trinity at #4 in Texas. Now, why they have SLC higher than Trinity and Longview I don't know.


:D That's interesting stuff. :D

[SLCDad]

yeah they are on paper and that looks nice but once the teams meet on the feild you can throw all the stats out the window because that won't mean anything on the fieldStats are a good indicator regarding how teams perform. They are a measure of what as happened on the field and help predict how teams will do in the future. On some occasions teams go in a different direction, but more often than not they perform similarly to their stats that year.

[dragonfootballfan]

Longview and SLC fans arguing over stupid things---how old are all of you??? please get off of this dogging session between 2 schools---you sound like a bunch of kids.....i will laugh my a$$ off when neither school makes it to this "fantasy" game that everyone is wagering on......alot of season to go..why are we discussing state titles right now??? forget SLC, Rockwall should be the focus for us........dragonfootballfan---keep dogging a program like ours---makes you look even more ignorant than you already are.....you may be eating crow before it's all over...goes for the big mouthed Longview fans out there, as well..................
I am not dogging your program at all. I am just trying to knock some of the Longview fans down to earth. You have a great program. It is one of the best in the state. However, I feel that it is not in the top tier of programs because of its lack of championships. I am not trying to say that your program is bad; I am just saying that your program is not where some of your fans think it is.

[green wave]

a lack of championships? we may not have the championships but we have a program rich in history and championships are not the only thing that makes a programm great look at mojo they won a number of championship but you hardly even hear anything about them now.you can go from winning championships to being nobody in only a few years

[green wave]

and no i'm not knocking slc i have alot of respect for what ya have been able to do since moving up compared to other teams who have moved up and had a hard time playing in 5a

[dragonfootballfan]

a lack of championships? we may not have the championships but we have a program rich in history and championships are not the only thing that makes a programm great look at mojo they won a number of championship but you hardly even hear anything about them now.you can go from winning championships to being nobody in only a few years
once again just a difference of opinions. You don't think a high number of championships means as much as I do.

[DragonNation]

Frankly, I want to play Trinity in the first round. If we go head to head then the arguement about who is better will be over. Until the brackets are decided I say good luck to the Trojans.

[myround0]

Stop knocking people for talking about football teams even if it seams obsessive, this is a football site, as long as people aren't talking about other people, there shouldn't be a problem...if no one come on and talked about their teams then what would be the point in hosting or having a site...Man stop being so sensitive, if you don't like the posts stay off the site, but, don't knock the people who come on here and talk about football and their teams because THIS IS A FOOTBALL SITE...

[dragonfootballfan]

Stop knocking people for talking about football teams even if it seams obsessive, this is a football site, as long as people aren't talking about other people, there shouldn't be a problem...if not one come on and talked about their teams then what would be the point in hosting or having a site...Man stop being so sensitive, if you don't like the posts stay off the site, but, don't knock the people who come on here and talk about football and their teams because THIS IS A FOOTBALL SITE...
finally we agree on something

[green wave]

i'm not knocking him for talking about football

[LoboFan07]

you notice that these "new" Lobo fans are crawling out of the cracks now???? these are the types of fans giving this town a bad reputation for being conceited big-mouths!! i've been there the WHOLE time for my team--through thick and thin......it's just really getting ridiculous!

Thats the only thing I had to read in this thread and I totally agree with it!

People are going crazy and some teams haven't even played 7 games not to mention even 10.

Get through the regular season before we can even think about the playoffs/State Championships.

[Arazorback]

:D my post was pure sarcasm guys. I guess it was a little bit too subtle. I'll try to do better next time.

[lonny23]

I posted this on another board, perhaps it helps respond to your comment.

A few statistics:

Points scored per game: SLC 53.0, Trinity 51.5.
Points allowed per game: SLC 18.0, Trinity 15.5.
Average Margin of victory: SLC 35, Trinity 36

Offensively, SLC is much more balanced between run (47%) and pass (53%) while Trinity is predominately run (70%) compared to pass (30%) (based on yards). SLC gains 566 yards per game while Trinity gains 493 yards per game.

Defensively they give up about the same yards, SLC 284, Trinity 282. Both teams score FAST which results in more yards allowed.

Net SLC is out gaining their opponents by 282 yards per game while Trinity is out gaining their opponents by 211 yards due entirely to SLC's higher offensive yards.

Trinity has a slightly stronger schedule with a power rating of +3 over SLC's schedule. Trinity's opponents have a 30-30 record while SLC's opponents are 29-31. Neither schedule is great but not bad either.

Current Jerry's power ratings (not voted rankings) have SLC at #1 and Trinity at #4 in Texas.

Trinity is 32% larger with 2,926 students compared to SLC's 2,213 students.

The bottom line is that a game between Trinity and SLC this year would probably go down to the wire. Personally, I would give the edge to SLC due to SLC's greater playoff experience, the fact that SLC is much more balanced, and SLC is playing (today) better than at ANY time in the last 3 years (in my opinion).

Any honest fan, however, must admit that a game between these two INCREDIBLE teams is really to close to call. I would LOVE two see a D1 and a D2 state champ from NE Tarrant County this year. I would rather see that than either SLC or Trinity knocked out in round 1 in D1.
Good work! That's the most well thought out post I've ever seen from you.

[BAMF cowboy]

Good work! That's the most well thought out post I've ever seen from you.

SLCDad...i'd take that as insulting...he must be from LONGVIEW

sorry...just getting into the spirit of the thread

[The Great Evaluator]

I posted this on another board, perhaps it helps respond to your comment.

A few statistics:

Points scored per game: SLC 53.0, Trinity 51.5.
Points allowed per game: SLC 18.0, Trinity 15.5.
Average Margin of victory: SLC 35, Trinity 36

Offensively, SLC is much more balanced between run (47%) and pass (53%) while Trinity is predominately run (70%) compared to pass (30%) (based on yards). SLC gains 566 yards per game while Trinity gains 493 yards per game.

Defensively they give up about the same yards, SLC 284, Trinity 282. Both teams score FAST which results in more yards allowed.

Net SLC is out gaining their opponents by 282 yards per game while Trinity is out gaining their opponents by 211 yards due entirely to SLC's higher offensive yards.

Trinity has a slightly stronger schedule with a power rating of +3 over SLC's schedule. Trinity's opponents have a 30-30 record while SLC's opponents are 29-31. Neither schedule is great but not bad either.

Current Jerry's power ratings (not voted rankings) have SLC at #1 and Trinity at #4 in Texas.

Trinity is 32% larger with 2,926 students compared to SLC's 2,213 students.

The bottom line is that a game between Trinity and SLC this year would probably go down to the wire. Personally, I would give the edge to SLC due to SLC's greater playoff experience, the fact that SLC is much more balanced, and SLC is playing (today) better than at ANY time in the last 3 years (in my opinion).

Any honest fan, however, must admit that a game between these two INCREDIBLE teams is really to close to call. I would LOVE two see a D1 and a D2 state champ from NE Tarrant County this year. I would rather see that than either SLC or Trinity knocked out in round 1 in D1.

SLC Dad,

As a Trinity fan i agree 100% with everything you said. SLC is still the favorite until someone knocks them off. I give the Dragons the respect that they have earned and as good as Trinity is in my heart of hearts on paper i would give Carroll a slight edge for the same reasons you mentioned. I would much rather see if both teams can bring home state championships in each division because for one of them to have to go home after 1 playoff game would be a disaster! Good luck to both of these teams.

[JoeC]

you notice that these "new" Lobo fans are crawling out of the cracks now???? these are the types of fans giving this town a bad reputation for being conceited big-mouths!! i've been there the WHOLE time for my team--through thick and thin......it's just really getting ridiculous!


Are you kidding me . . . how do you guys living in this world define "new"? I've been a Lobo since James Street played here. I watched Mike Mock, Hosea Taylor, Rickey Watts, Dinky Edwards, Joe Johnson, etc. etc., play this game. By the way, when you go to the game do you sit there as though you're in a library or do you yell, shout, high-five and talk trash about the dominance of your team. Come on people . . . lighten-up . . . trash talking is part of football. And I will not apologize about being proud of my team . . . talking trash and all. And by the way, I have eaten crow before, don't like the taste, but I'll leave it on the menue after all.

We're the wolves of old LHS, you do the score and we'll do the rest. Circle in and hit them hard and don't let them gain another yard. You'll never hear us singing the blues, we're loyal whether we win or lose. We're the wolves of L-H-S and we're out on the prowl tonight.

I graduated in 1974 and still remember every word to the Lobo fight song as well as the school song . . . am I still a "new" Lobo Fan? Since 1973 I have missed only five games. No, I am diehard, green blood, trash talking and all! With that said, it is not my objective to put down other well established programs. I have the utmost respect for John Tyler, Lufkin, Katy, Evangel, West Monroe, Ruston, Monroe Nevelle, Marshall, Texas High, Plano, Plano East, Dallas Carter, Odessa Permian, Midland Lee, Tyler Lee, Waco, Killeen, Killeen Ellison, Conroe, Highland Park, Garland, Spring, and many others. We've played these teams . . . they can comment about our football team and program . . . because they have played us . . . and I am sure for that reason, they respect us as well. We have a good program . . . and for that, I will not role over and play dead for anyone. "Sorry, JoeC"; and I'm done!!

[SLCDad]

:D Good work! That's the most well thought out post I've ever seen from you.Gee . . . . thanks mom.

I guess this post was simple enough for you to understand. :D

[SLCDad]

and no i'm not knocking slc i have alot of respect for what ya have been able to do since moving up compared to other teams who have moved up and had a hard time playing in 5aNot to mention what SLC did before they moved up. They have more wins over the last 20 years than any team in Texas.

[pack0808]

Here is what happens in my opinion and it is just part of a board on Lufkin and Longview i do not know about Longview vs SLC and why that is a big deal considering they have never played?? Lufkin vs Longview have a huge rivalry and that alone starts arguments. Then new guys come in here whether they are from Lufkin or Longview and they let everybody have it on a subject we have went over and over on and it starts all over again with everybody including myself. It is a repeating pattern. They will soon find out that is site is a lot more classy then most other boards and there is very intelligent football fans in here and you can not just talk smack 100 percent of the time or you will look silly to other fans and to your own fans. Nothing we can do about it!! I remember when i was new to this site several years ago i came in talking some serious noise about my team like most did because i thought that was what these boards were only for.

That is my theory anyway?? LOL

[lonny23]

Here is what happens in my opinion and it is just part of a board on Lufkin and Longview i do not know about Longview vs SLC and why that is a big deal considering they have never played?? Lufkin vs Longview have a huge rivalry and that alone starts arguments. Then new guys come in here whether they are from Lufkin or Longview and they let everybody have it on a subject we have went over and over on and it starts all over again with everybody including myself. It is a repeating pattern. They will soon find out that is site is a lot more classy then most other boards and there is very intelligent football fans in here and you can not just talk smack 100 percent of the time or you will look silly to other fans and to your own fans. Nothing we can do about it!! I remember when i was new to this site several years ago i came in talking some serious noise about my team like most did because i thought that was what these boards were only for.

That is my theory anyway?? LOLWhere? I need to find those guys! :p

[LPFAN]

Here is what happens in my opinion and it is just part of a board on Lufkin and Longview i do not know about Longview vs SLC and why that is a big deal considering they have never played?? Lufkin vs Longview have a huge rivalry and that alone starts arguments. Then new guys come in here whether they are from Lufkin or Longview and they let everybody have it on a subject we have went over and over on and it starts all over again with everybody including myself. It is a repeating pattern. They will soon find out that is site is a lot more classy then most other boards and there is very intelligent football fans in here and you can not just talk smack 100 percent of the time or you will look silly to other fans and to your own fans. Nothing we can do about it!! I remember when i was new to this site several years ago i came in talking some serious noise about my team like most did because i thought that was what these boards were only for.

That is my theory anyway?? LOL
:eek: :eek: :eek: You mean I can't come in here and tell everyone how Longview is a @#%*& and SLC $#%&* and Katy, Euless Trinity and Spring Wesfield all #%@#. We all know that the big LP is in the house fo rizeel. Can't nobody stop the PACK up in this mutha. :D :D

Now everyone that I just mentioned better know I am just kidding around. It is just a little bit of comical rambling. To bad people get on here and type these types of things and they are serious too. Crazy huh!

[pack0808]

:eek: :eek: :eek: You mean I can't come in here and tell everyone how Longview is a @#%*& and SLC $#%&* and Katy, Euless Trinity and Spring Wesfield all #%@#. We all know that the big LP is in the house fo rizeel. Can't nobody stop the PACK up in this mutha. :D :D

Now everyone that I just mentioned better know I am just kidding around. It is just a little bit of comical rambling. To bad people get on here and type these types of things and they are serious too. Crazy huh!


LMAO LPFAN!!

[Fleeman93]

I posted this on another board, perhaps it helps respond to your comment.

A few statistics:

Points scored per game: SLC 53.0, Trinity 51.5.
Points allowed per game: SLC 18.0, Trinity 15.5.
Average Margin of victory: SLC 35, Trinity 36

Offensively, SLC is much more balanced between run (47%) and pass (53%) while Trinity is predominately run (70%) compared to pass (30%) (based on yards). SLC gains 566 yards per game while Trinity gains 493 yards per game.

Defensively they give up about the same yards, SLC 284, Trinity 282. Both teams score FAST which results in more yards allowed.

Net SLC is out gaining their opponents by 282 yards per game while Trinity is out gaining their opponents by 211 yards due entirely to SLC's higher offensive yards.

Trinity has a slightly stronger schedule with a power rating of +3 over SLC's schedule. Trinity's opponents have a 30-30 record while SLC's opponents are 29-31. Neither schedule is great but not bad either.

Current Jerry's power ratings (not voted rankings) have SLC at #1 and Trinity at #4 in Texas.

Trinity is 32% larger with 2,926 students compared to SLC's 2,213 students.

The bottom line is that a game between Trinity and SLC this year would probably go down to the wire. Personally, I would give the edge to SLC due to SLC's greater playoff experience, the fact that SLC is much more balanced, and SLC is playing (today) better than at ANY time in the last 3 years (in my opinion).

Any honest fan, however, must admit that a game between these two INCREDIBLE teams is really to close to call. I would LOVE two see a D1 and a D2 state champ from NE Tarrant County this year. I would rather see that than either SLC or Trinity knocked out in round 1 in D1.

Would be interesting to know how Katy's team stats of 2003 compared to SLC's team stats prior to the championship game. I am guessing that the stats were lopsided in SLC's favor in a big way. Trinity certainly has the type team to compete with SLC this year.

[lonny23]

:eek: :eek: :eek: You mean I can't come in here and tell everyone how Longview is a @#%*& and SLC $#%&* and Katy, Euless Trinity and Spring Wesfield all #%@#. We all know that the big LP is in the house fo rizeel. Can't nobody stop the PACK up in this mutha. :D

Now everyone that I just mentioned better know I am just kidding around. It is just a little bit of comical rambling. To bad people get on here and type these types of things and they are serious too. Crazy huh!
If you people don't start talking about Judson, you're going to force me to resort to guerilla posting tactics unlike anything seen since....2004! :D

[SLCDad]

Would be interesting to know how Katy's team stats of 2003 compared to SLC's team stats prior to the championship game. I am guessing that the stats were lopsided in SLC's favor in a big way. Trinity certainly has the type team to compete with SLC this year.Nope. Your guess is not really accurate. I don't have complete stats, but the stats I have indicate the game would be close.

2003
Scoring Average: SLC 40.5, Katy 34.2
Points Allowed Average: SLC 19.1, Katy 14.0
Average Margin of Victory: SLC 21.4, Katy 20.2

Katy's schedule was slightly stronger at +0.8 over SLC.

[JoeC]

Here is what happens in my opinion and it is just part of a board on Lufkin and Longview i do not know about Longview vs SLC and why that is a big deal considering they have never played?? Lufkin vs Longview have a huge rivalry and that alone starts arguments. Then new guys come in here whether they are from Lufkin or Longview and they let everybody have it on a subject we have went over and over on and it starts all over again with everybody including myself. It is a repeating pattern. They will soon find out that is site is a lot more classy then most other boards and there is very intelligent football fans in here and you can not just talk smack 100 percent of the time or you will look silly to other fans and to your own fans. Nothing we can do about it!! I remember when i was new to this site several years ago i came in talking some serious noise about my team like most did because i thought that was what these boards were only for.

That is my theory anyway?? LOL

For all of those "intelligent" football fans out there listening . . . here is how it goes. There is an old axiom that goes something like this, "In order to get respect, you first have to give respect." Oh yes, I am new to this board but I am not new as a Lobo fan. And when I entered this board, the "new" kid on the block, and witness this bad mouthing about Longview from people that know nothing about us . . . yeah, it got me steamed; and rightfully so. That's what supporting your team is all about . . . come on . . . its football man, not choir rehearsal. And further, the only constant in the universe is change. There will always be a constant influx of "new" entries to this board. So if you want to stop all of this infighting, it's up to you "old" guys to truly be "classy" and stop bashing programs that have been around for a long time. Programs that many other "respectable programs" have respect for. I got it, let's try this . . . talk in supporting fashion about your program and allow others to do the same. This includes the "new" guys . . . even if you've heard it before . . . .

[SLCDad]

For all of those "intelligent" football fans out there listening . . . here is how it goes. There is an old axiom that goes something like this, "In order to get respect, you first have to give respect." Oh yes, I am new to this board but I am not new as a Lobo fan. And when I entered this board, the "new" kid on the block, and witness this bad mouthing about Longview from people that know nothing about us . . . yeah, it got me steamed; and rightfully so. That's what supporting your team is all about . . . come on . . . its football man, not choir rehearsal. And further, the only constant in the universe is change. What I am saying, there will always be a constant influx of "new" entries to this board. So if you want to stop all of this infighting, it's up to you "old" guys to truly be "classy" and stop bashing programs that have been around for a long time. Programs that many other "respectable programs" have respect for. I got it, let's try this . . . talk in supporting fashion about your program and allow others to do the same. This includes the "new" guys . . . even if you've heard it before . . . .Lighten up man. This is football. Trash talk is half the fun. Infighting? The battle of the keyboards!! :p :p

Everybody respects Longview. They have an outstanding team this year. However, if a LV fan starts to crow how they are superior to everybody else (which has happened a few times) they will be quickly to reminded that it's been a very, very, very long time since LV won a championship and their record against Lufkin in recent years is anything but deserving of respect. We've got to keep you humble. :D :D

Best of luck this year. A championship will silence all of the critics.

[toonman]

Lighten up man. This is football. Trash talk is half the fun. Infighting? The battle of the keyboards!! :p :p

Everybody respects Longview. They have an outstanding team this year. However, if a LV fan starts to crow how they are superior to everybody else (which has happened a few times) they will be quickly to reminded that it's been a very, very, very long time since LV won a championship and their record against Lufkin in recent years is anything but deserving of respect. We've got to keep you humble. :D :D

Best of luck this year. A championship will silence all of the critics.

I agree. True high school footballs fan will always respect a great program and at the same time there will always be some trash talking. But to make all the Longview fans feel happy - Longview has a great program. I saw Longview destroy Tyler Lee and l wish Longview the best of luck this season. But at the end of the day the greatest respect is given to those teams with "skins on the wall". When we talk of Texas State Champions; Odessa Permian, Midland Lee, Converse Judson, Katy and Southlake Carroll always come to mind - why? Because they win State Championships again, again and again. (Upfront - I apologize for any I have not named)

[pack0808]

For all of those "intelligent" football fans out there listening . . . here is how it goes. There is an old axiom that goes something like this, "In order to get respect, you first have to give respect." Oh yes, I am new to this board but I am not new as a Lobo fan. And when I entered this board, the "new" kid on the block, and witness this bad mouthing about Longview from people that know nothing about us . . . yeah, it got me steamed; and rightfully so. That's what supporting your team is all about . . . come on . . . its football man, not choir rehearsal. And further, the only constant in the universe is change. There will always be a constant influx of "new" entries to this board. So if you want to stop all of this infighting, it's up to you "old" guys to truly be "classy" and stop bashing programs that have been around for a long time. Programs that many other "respectable programs" have respect for. I got it, let's try this . . . talk in supporting fashion about your program and allow others to do the same. This includes the "new" guys . . . even if you've heard it before . . . .

Did i single you out?? NO!! I even said i did the same thing when i first came in. Nobdody is asking anybody to be a choir boy give me a break. I am hardly one in here!! I like good football discussions but if you knew we have went over this very same subject about Longview vs Lufkin 2 billion times you would understand. I am well aware it is just football and i hope you are not talking to me when you say us old guys that have been on here a while bash other respected teams. Simply not true!! I will argue my point to the extreme but i do not trash other great programs that is for sure. 9 times out of the 10 it is the new guys that come in talking garbage to other respected programs.

[EastTexasDad]

Did i single you out?? NO!! I even said i did the same thing when i first came in. Nobdody is asking anybody to be a choir boy give me a break. I am hardly one in here!! I like good football discussions but if you knew we have went over this very same subject about Longview vs Lufkin 2 billion times you would understand. I am well aware it is just football and i hope you are not talking to me when you say us old guys that have been on here a while bash other respected teams. Simply not true!! I will argue my point to the extreme but i do not trash other great programs that is for sure. 9 times out of the 10 it is the new guys that come in talking garbage to other respected programs.

Until Longview can beat Lufkin they have not earned any respect. Once they win I and others will give them all the respect they are due!!!

[lonny23]

Did i single you out?? NO!! I even said i did the same thing when i first came in. Nobdody is asking anybody to be a choir boy give me a break. I am hardly one in here!! I like good football discussions but if you knew we have went over this very same subject about Longview vs Lufkin 2 billion times you would understand. I am well aware it is just football and i hope you are not talking to me when you say us old guys that have been on here a while bash other respected teams. Simply not true!! I will argue my point to the extreme but i do not trash other great programs that is for sure. 9 times out of the 10 it is the new guys that come in talking garbage to other respected programs.
Pack, I have to back you up on this one. It's far more often that new posters start the bashing vs. the old guys. I think new posters require an adjustment period to the board and the board has to adjust to the style of the new posters.

[BigArab]

Until Longview can beat Lufkin they have not earned any respect. Once they win I and others will give them all the respect they are due!!!

Great...I am glad that our season is determined by the amount of respect we receive from forum-goers for beating a team that has an about even ALLTIME record with us.

Worry about your team first.

[pack0808]

Great...I am glad that our season is determined by the amount of respect we receive from forum-goers for beating a team that has an about even ALLTIME record with us.

Worry about your team first.


Arab he is talking about the recent history i am sure!! Either way i have great respect for the Longview program.

[LP_FAN_in_Plano]

Until Longview can beat Lufkin they have not earned any respect. Once they win I and others will give them all the respect they are due!!!
I think Longview deserves anyone's respect. They have a great program and field a team on a regular basis that is capable of beating anyone. Lufkin has never beaten SLC but for the most part Lufkin has the respect of the SLC fans, coaches, and players. Just because we have had Longview's number lately means nothing this year. Victories from last year do not count this season. If you do not respect Longview as a team you may be in for a rude awakening.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Let them run the mouths, there #1 until someone beats them, and it hasnt happend yet. If your team hasnt lost a single game in 1.5 seasons and has only lost one games in 3.5 seasons, you would be talking just as much. SLC is the best school in the state, until someone knocks them out of the play-offs or beats them...Enough said..

[pack0808]

Let them run the mouths, there #1 until someone beats them, and it hasnt happend yet. If your team hasnt lost a single game in 1.5 seasons and has only lost one games in 3.5 seasons, you would be talking just as much. SLC is the best school in the state, until someone knocks them out of the play-offs or beats them...Enough said..


Very true!!

[dragonsdaddy]

big a, if the shoes were reversed, you'd possibly change your tune. where i grew up, the further one was removed from an event, the less significance it carries. however losing 9 games in a row will make for a trend, and will make the next game that much more significant, and sweet if a win. the redskins surely enjoyed their recent win.

[lonny23]

Let them run the mouths, there #1 until someone beats them, and it hasnt happend yet. If your team hasnt lost a single game in 1.5 seasons and has only lost one games in 3.5 seasons, you would be talking just as much. SLC is the best school in the state, until someone knocks them out of the play-offs or beats them...Enough said..
I have to agree with that.

[PantherStang84]

however losing 9 games in a row will make for a trend

Here we go again! :rolleyes:

[RP-3]

Here we go again! :rolleyes:

LOL

[JoeC]

Did i single you out?? NO!! I even said i did the same thing when i first came in. Nobdody is asking anybody to be a choir boy give me a break. I am hardly one in here!! I like good football discussions but if you knew we have went over this very same subject about Longview vs Lufkin 2 billion times you would understand. I am well aware it is just football and i hope you are not talking to me when you say us old guys that have been on here a while bash other respected teams. Simply not true!! I will argue my point to the extreme but i do not trash other great programs that is for sure. 9 times out of the 10 it is the new guys that come in talking garbage to other respected programs.

And the beat goes on . . . whew, did I manage to push the wrong button. It was not my intention to "single you out" in a negative way. I was attempting to respond to your comments and at the same time, not point finger(s). Nor was I implying that anyone was "old" . . . it just that old happens to be the opposite of "new" . . . nothing more, nothing less. These were general statement and were not addressed at you in a singular form . . . including my choir reference. Unfortunately and speaking from my perspective, there was plenty of bashing from both sides, old and new alike when I came on. I took offense to Longview being bashed by fans of teams that has never played Longview. Obviously, that does not include Lufkin. I've already made this point, but I guess I must do it again (repetition abounds) . . . . I have the utmost respect for Marshall, Lufkin, John Tyler, Tyler Lee, Texas High, Plano, Plano East, Odessa Permian, Midland Lee, Katy, West Monroe, Evangel, Dallas Carter, Conroe, Highland Park, Waco, Killeen, and so on . . . Sorry I got under your skin, it was not my intention.

[green wave]

For all of those "intelligent" football fans out there listening . . . here is how it goes. There is an old axiom that goes something like this, "In order to get respect, you first have to give respect." Oh yes, I am new to this board but I am not new as a Lobo fan. And when I entered this board, the "new" kid on the block, and witness this bad mouthing about Longview from people that know nothing about us . . . yeah, it got me steamed; and rightfully so. That's what supporting your team is all about . . . come on . . . its football man, not choir rehearsal. And further, the only constant in the universe is change. There will always be a constant influx of "new" entries to this board. So if you want to stop all of this infighting, it's up to you "old" guys to truly be "classy" and stop bashing programs that have been around for a long time. Programs that many other "respectable programs" have respect for. I got it, let's try this . . . talk in supporting fashion about your program and allow others to do the same. This includes the "new" guys . . . even if you've heard it before . . . .
nicely put joe because when one person starts bad mouthing the other program it going to a stupid agruement of should've, could've, would've and there is no promise the two will ever meet on the same field.

[pack0808]

And the beat goes on . . . whew, did I manage to push the wrong button. It was not my intention to "single you out" in a negative way. I was attempting to respond to your comments and at the same time, not point finger(s). Nor was I implying that anyone was "old" . . . it just that old happens to be the opposite of "new" . . . nothing more, nothing less. These were general statement and were not addressed at you in a singular form . . . including my choir reference. Unfortunately and speaking from my perspective, there was plenty of bashing from both sides, old and new alike when I came on. I took offense to Longview being bashed by fans of teams that has never played Longview. Obviously, that does not include Lufkin. I've already made this point, but I guess I must do it again (repetition abounds) . . . . I have the utmost respect for Marshall, Lufkin, John Tyler, Tyler Lee, Texas High, Plano, Plano East, Odessa Permian, Midland Lee, Katy, West Monroe, Evangel, Dallas Carter, Conroe, Highland Park, Waco, Killeen, and so on . . . Sorry I got under your skin, it was not my intention.


I thought you were coming at me sorry!! LOL but i knew you were not implying that i was old in terms of my age even though i am getting up there at age 31 and many young ones in here would say i am. ;)

[Redneckn]

I thought Longview got the trophy last week after they beat REL?

Y'all have me totally confused now.

[JoeC]

I thought you were coming at me sorry!! LOL but i knew you were not implying that i was old in terms of my age even though i am getting up there at age 31 and many young ones in here would say i am. ;)

I am 49 years "young" and have a 30 year "old" son . . . so it's kinda like I am old enough to be your dad . . . humm, let me see, maybe should respect me after all. ;)

I thought maybe if I added a smiley face . . . some of these people would know I was just kidding . . .

[PackAttack2005]

This stuff is just the same song and the 999th verse....it is old and worn out.

Nobody ever gets all the respect they want or think they deserve and some don't deserve repect at all. Some people never respect anyone. That is life.

This thread is like a never ending salad, some throw out the tomatoes, some leave them in, who really cares.

I like tomatoes.

[green wave]

that true but is so hard to tell somebody that they do have a top notch program if it's true instead of running them down and wanting to compare every little stat in the books.

[wide-e-wide]

When it comes to Lufkin and Longview..there is only one stat that matters....
WINS

well...that and best scrimmage t-shirts...they spank us every year in that stat....

[BigArab]

I thought Longview got the trophy last week after they beat REL?

Y'all have me totally confused now.

Man, you must really not like Longview. I just can't see why.... :p

[green wave]

When it comes to Lufkin and Longview..there is only one stat that matters....
WINS

well...that and best scrimmage t-shirts...they spank us every year in that stat....
not all people in longview hold a scrimmage game that important. i hardly even attend these games and when i do i go to see how good the team looks that year.i would much rather see longview whup lufkin a$$ in the playoffs

[bleedgreen]

When it comes to Lufkin and Longview..there is only one stat that matters....
WINS

well...that and best scrimmage t-shirts...they spank us every year in that stat....
lol, Wide..................